irclog2html for #asterisk on 20060129

00:00.07jr_ewingyes
00:00.24fiber0ptiWhat is auto fallthrough
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00:01.11jr_ewingtry to forward tc^port 5060 and udp range (find it in \etc\asterisk\rtp.conf) but you will still have probleme with sip if you have Nat at home
00:01.44The_XI already forward 5060 on the linksys to my 7960
00:01.52The_Xand a bunch of other ports
00:02.57The_Xthe rtp ports are forwarded too
00:03.03The_Xthis sucks :)
00:03.07QwellThe_X: udp?
00:03.07jr_ewinghttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+SIP+NAT+solutions
00:03.44jr_ewingtry first with a dmz on your linksys
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00:04.29The_Xyeah
00:05.58Tecky`I'm presuming w/ one analog phone line from verizon i want a FXS card ?!?
00:06.01Tecky`is there one i should look at
00:06.18Qwellphone line = fxo, phone = fxs
00:06.20Tecky`one in peticular ?!?
00:06.20Qwellso, no
00:07.18Tecky`so optimally one w/ a fxo and one w/ fxs (too loop back to a switch and go to the outlets in my home ?!?
00:07.27Qwellsure
00:08.15Tecky`whats a decent price for one of those cards? seeing 300+ on ebay
00:09.36QwellTecky`: http://store.digium.com/products.php?category_id=17
00:10.01The_XAsterisk as a SIP server outside nat, clients on the inside connecting to Asterisk
00:10.04The_Xthat's my setup
00:10.09The_XI did put nat=yes and qualify=yes
00:10.14The_Xfwding ports
00:10.20The_XI guess there's nothing we can do about it :(
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00:12.10QwellTecky`: Something like this would do the trick.  http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=13&products_id=295&osCsid=14fc24533eecc93b268f033a89e090ab
00:12.41jr_ewingThe_X the only thing i can tell you is to use a public stun , it works in your case( asterisk public, phone behiond nat) but i don"t know if you can set Stun Server into 7960
00:13.30The_XI'll try :)
00:13.32The_Xthanks again
00:15.25Tecky`hmm
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00:16.00The_Xcan't do stun on 7960
00:16.00The_Xdammit
00:16.25Tecky`does that card support iax2 ?
00:16.36QwellTecky`: no, it isn't a voip card
00:16.50Qwelland it doesn't need to support it
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00:17.43razudoes anyone have experience with Teles iswitch hardware ?
00:17.55jr_ewingTecky before lose money with asterisk in hardware
00:18.25jr_ewingtry to get familiar with asterisk with free voip provider like voipbuster
00:18.39Tecky`i've used voip before / vonage etc...
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00:20.49nroejcan anyone assist me testing my fresh sip setup?
00:21.11nroejwant to see if my srv and naptr records are ok
00:21.19nroejcant test it myself right now
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00:27.01SeedyHow it going people...
00:27.11nroejgreat
00:27.46nroejworld domination is near
00:27.54nroej;-)
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00:32.13SeedyHa
00:32.37SeedyI'm very new to all this voip stuff... So i've got some questions
00:32.57SeedyIs it possible to use asterisk with my vonage softphone number?
00:33.50nurfegoonight legion
00:34.19QwellSeedy: It's against the TOS, and people have been slammed for it
00:34.29SeedyHmmm
00:35.51SeedyI'm trying to set up a very simple asterisk set-up to accept incoming calls. What would a good (Cheap) provider for that be?
00:35.55[av]banibecause asterisk is only used by EVIL HAX0RZ
00:36.05QwellSeedy: how many minutes per month?
00:36.44Seedyfor now, its just for fun. So under 200 for sure
00:37.15Qwellthen $40/month is far too much to pay
00:37.20[av]banii've had good luck so far with junction networks
00:37.22Qwelljust get a per minute provider, like asterlink
00:37.29Qwellor nufone, or whatever
00:38.18Krillwhy is it against the TOS?
00:38.24SeedyThanks guys... I'll look into those
00:38.48[av]baniKrill: you can only use vonage authorized endpoints with vonage service, for whatever reasons they decide.
00:38.52QwellKrill: because the softphone account is for a softphone
00:39.08Krillahh fair enough
00:39.16[av]banicompletely arbitrary decision like any thing large corporations make :)
00:39.20Krilli dont think i can get vonage here anyway
00:39.31[av]banithey're scared you'll actually do something useful with their service
00:39.52Krillhaha
00:41.31[av]baniteliax is ok
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00:50.49Seedy[av]bani: So, junction networks will allow me to receive incoming calls via asterisks?
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01:00.39SeedyI have to choice between Session protocol (SIP vs. IAX). I don't plan on hooking up any hard phones to astrisks so is one better than the other
01:01.16X-RobSeedy, if you're connecting two asterisk boxes together, use IAX
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01:02.01SeedyX-rob: I'm connecting outside lines (Regular phone connections) to an asterisk box. So SIP would be better for that?
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01:02.35X-Robyou need some way of converting those lines into VoIP.
01:02.46X-RobIf you're plugging them directly into the asterisk box with a TDM card, then you don't care.
01:08.22razucan i send more information (than src and dst callerid) to a E1 port ?
01:09.07X-Rob...like what? Weather? CPU Temperature?
01:09.15razuwell
01:09.15X-Rob(the non-arse answer is 'no')
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01:09.49razui'd need to send smthing like the cdr info to other system
01:10.26kink0razu: http://www.freesoft.org/CIE/Topics/126.htm
01:10.58kink0yes , you can send more infor to an E1 port. Are you speaking about q.931 ?
01:11.16razui think so
01:11.24razui'm using Teles iSwitch
01:11.32razuand their idb
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01:11.52kink0razu: ccs, hdb3 ?
01:11.58razubut its logging only src and dst callerids ...
01:12.13razubut i need more info about each call going thrue it
01:12.43kink0well, that may be the firmware, but q931 requires more info while dialoging with your E1
01:12.53kink0i.e. the channel id, and so.
01:13.16razuok
01:13.32razuso teoretically ... i can send lots of info to teles
01:13.44razuthats good :)
01:14.52kink0yes, but other aspect is that teles logs it in cdr's
01:15.37[av]baniSeedy: yes, JN will route calls to you
01:15.37razuyea
01:15.44razukink0 : thx :)
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01:40.50Seedyin extionsions.conf what is the difference between exten => 12129130352 and exten => _12129130352
01:41.27razuif you are using X
01:41.32razuthen you need _
01:41.39kink0Seedy, _ means starting with 1
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01:42.24Seedykink0: How is that used? Or what is it used for?
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01:42.55kink0Seedy, to setup prefixes
01:43.21_DAW-LAPTOPSeedy _ means pattern match
01:43.35nahireanHey folks, I am working with a Sipura 2000 and I've got it registered to Asterisk and I can make outgoing calls with no issue.. I've forgotten how to ring the adapter from extensions.conf when you receive an incoming call (lost my old configs due to hard disk crash).. does anyone have a resource or a few tips on how to point the incoming call to the sip device?
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01:44.41nroejarrr chan_capi sucks
01:44.56nroejor i am too stupid to set it up
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01:47.44austinnichols101nroej: isn't that accums razor :)
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01:49.43nroejwtf ist accums razor?
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01:52.09austinnichols101all things being equal, simplest solution usually is the correct one
01:52.18austinnichols101paraphrasing
01:53.50nroejokay
01:54.23jebbanahirean,       Dial(SIP/sipura)
01:54.35jebbae.g.  if you have a [sipura] section in sip.conf
01:56.12nahireanJebba, thanks for your reply, I figured it out.. i was being a douche.  In my incoming context, I didnt have NXXNXXXXXX, I was pointing it to the name of the Sipura context.. ie: exten => <sip context> .. sigh..
01:56.22nroej[101981.104191] kcapi: card 1 "fcpci-e000-10" ready.
01:56.47nroejlooks good but wont work
01:57.00nahireannow if I can remember how to record messages I'll be in business ;)
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02:00.47WillSipalguien conoce un numero de subscripcion en Red Hat
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02:02.04nahireanhave a good one folks
02:04.16WillSipsomebody subscription number for red hat 3 enterprise
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02:28.38AbbieHoffcommen
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02:33.48Trazzanyone here familiar with the x100p card?
02:34.14Trazzalso can you bring vonage in to * ?
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02:39.32QwellTrazz: their crap, and no, it's against the TOS...they will shut you off
02:39.37Qwellthey're crap*
02:39.57Trazzheheeh ok
02:39.59J_-h
02:40.01J_-hy all lol
02:40.58J_-hya Qwell
02:41.35pauldyyou can do it but they only give you 500 minutes per month and if you go voer it is like 5 cents a minute
02:41.42pauldytotal crapola
02:43.09Trazzwhats the difference if you use the ata or * why is not unlimited?
02:43.54pauldythe difference is vontage sucks balls
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02:44.00tzafrir_laptopTrazz, in some places x100ps are horrible. In some places they may work resonably
02:44.18tzafrir_laptopNot recommended for professional setup
02:44.36tzafrir_laptopBut can be handy for testing
02:44.48Trazzwhat should i get for production then?
02:44.49J_-5 cents a min? thats a rip
02:44.57Trazzi only need 1 or 2 lines max as pots
02:44.57pauldythere is the potential of people abusing the service with asterisk and setting up pass through for their friends and family etc... with a closed box it is much mroe secure
02:45.44tzafrir_laptopTrazz, either an FXO ATA or a Digium card (TDM400P with one FXO module)
02:46.00pauldytraz depends on how many phones you are hooking up and what the REN requirements fo the phones are
02:46.32Trazzwe are using cisco 7940 or 7960 phones or eyebeam softphone
02:46.51Trazzand then use broadvoice for some lines and need to use a line from pots side
02:47.00pauldyahh
03:03.39AugheyTrazz: I'm have a X100P to experiment with, and it's crap.  The echo, sound quality, and volume is horrible.
03:04.19Trazz:(
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03:05.54argentas_okay, i've got a bit of an issue with asterisks CDRs, i've got a service which answers an incoming call, play some prompts and generally interacts with the caller for a while, then makes an outbound call. I'd like the duration of the outbound call (from answer to hangup) to be logged in addition to the duration of the inbound call - is there any easy way to do this?
03:08.41TrazzAughey, check my pm
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03:28.16tzafrir_laptopAughey, where are you from?
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03:43.09SkramXanyone done SMS messaging?
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04:01.06Cool_Onewho is the asterisk super man in here
04:01.32BlueDevi1super man is sleeping now
04:01.46X-RobI have a 'W' on my chest. for 'Weenie'
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04:04.09tronixis there a way to reboot a cisco 7960g phone by pressing the buttons?
04:05.19Qwelltronix: sip or sccp?
04:05.29tronixright now, sccp. i'm trying to set up sip
04:05.39Qwellhit settings, then **#**
04:05.41tronix(working on getting the upgrade)
04:05.46tronixahh! thanks!
04:05.58Qwellthen once you get sip, *+6+settings
04:06.07Qwell(like ctrl-alt-del)
04:06.08tronixahh no wonder that didn't work. :)
04:06.19tronix(didn't realize that was sip firmware specific...figures.)
04:06.31Cool_Onecan ayone tell me what this means
04:06.34Cool_One<PROTECTED>
04:06.34Cool_Oneasterisk: relocation error: /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_config_odbc.so: undefined symbol: ast_cust_config_register
04:06.34Cool_One[root@pbx root]# Ouch ... error while writing audio data: : Broken pipe
04:08.53Cool_Onemust of been a stumper
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04:12.47tronixyep.
04:12.50tronixbig stumper.
04:13.09tronixI think it means you've got asterisk 1.2
04:13.18tronixbut odbc module compiled against asterisk 1.0
04:14.14Cool_Onejmm
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04:14.22tronixcause that symbol exists in 1.0 but not in 1.2
04:14.32Cool_Oneso it would be a perl problem?
04:14.39tronixmodule probably needs recompile
04:14.44tronixto match asterisk 1.2 setup
04:14.53tronixfor res_config_odbc.so
04:14.57X-Robare you using odbc?
04:15.00Cool_Oneyes
04:15.06X-Robrecompile the module then.
04:15.15Cool_OneI have a fresh install of asterisk 1.2
04:15.22J_-odbc just sucks
04:15.22Cool_Onenewest active perl
04:15.29J_-threading issues
04:15.36Cool_Oneand newest mysql
04:15.58J_-works fine
04:16.11J_-and its easy to cluster
04:16.22Cool_OneI was trying to load a package called astgui
04:16.36Cool_Onesystem was working till then
04:17.02Cool_Onethis is my 3rd week on asterisk
04:17.21Cool_Onealso 3rd week on linux platform
04:17.51Cool_OneI kinda thought this would be a fun project
04:18.12X-Robit is.
04:18.13Cool_OneI have figured out real quick that I am way over my head
04:18.16X-Robbut odbc is _not_ fun.
04:18.20Cool_Onehaha
04:18.38Cool_OneODBC in windows servers... i can hadle
04:18.50Cool_Onebut this linux is messing with my head
04:18.57X-Robdo why are you using odbc with asterisk?
04:19.13X-Robthat's not something I'd expect a 3-week-user to be doing
04:19.34Cool_Onerequired to install this gui manager for asterisk
04:19.41J_-its something to be expected from someone coming from a windows background
04:19.52Cool_OneI had my pbx up and going in about 8 hours of console time
04:20.22X-RobHurm, doen't seem like _asterisk_ needs odbc for that.
04:20.23nroejcan someone help me with chan capi on ubuntu it isnt working.. just inbound not outbound
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04:20.39nroejalways get:   == Everyone is busy/congested at this time
04:20.41Cool_OneI have a good background in windows server and novell servers
04:20.54X-Robmv /usr/lib/asterisk/modules/res_config_odbc.so /tmp/res_config_odbc.so
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04:21.15J_-yea I can tell because in windows odbc is the main choice for db conectivity
04:21.47Cool_One:)
04:21.53Cool_Onewhat would you recomend for a gui interface with asterisk
04:21.59J_-lpic-1/lpic-2/+cisco/mcse/mcsa/mcdba too
04:22.09X-RobCool_One, AMP
04:22.24J_-I love windows its allways getting broken and active directory sucks, but it pays well too :)
04:22.27X-Robhttp://www.coalescentsystems.ca/
04:22.35X-Robactive directory is good.
04:22.49X-RobIt's people who fuck with it that don't know what they're doing that causes trouble.
04:22.54opsysDoes anyone know how to get the channel you are bridged to?
04:22.56X-Robit's just ldap and kerberos, nothing new.
04:23.03J_-yea, I fix there stuff all the time
04:23.18X-Robnroej, look further up the logs in /var/log/asterisk/full
04:23.25X-Robopsys, 'sip show channels'??
04:23.54nroejX-Rob: okay
04:24.48opsysI need to get the bridged chan from the dialplan, I tried useing the ast_bridged_channel function but I get invalid pointers
04:25.35nroejX-Rob: ahh forgot msn=14 in the config
04:26.03X-Robopsys, hurm. call an AGI that does a sip show channels and figures it out? There's no easy way, you'd probably want to explain exactly what you're doing and why you want to do it on -users
04:26.47nroejhmm hmm
04:26.57opsysis there a pastebi avail that I can show you my diff to ChanisAvail??  I figured that would be the best place.
04:27.03Darwin35damn blender does not work on ia64 yet
04:27.23Darwin35wrong window
04:27.50X-RobI'm not a coder
04:28.53opsysX-Rob: I can do the lookup via an AGI but I didn't want to take the perfomrance hit. Time to go back into the C books!
04:32.06J_-opsys: thats the correct way to do it in c
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04:41.16tronixQwell: rock on -- I've got the 7960G up to SIP 7.4 firmware. thanks!!! (tip was a big help)
04:41.31tronixI've stayed away from 7.5 due to reports of */7960 interaction issues
04:41.39tronixbut man, this looks pretty good.
04:42.05opsystronix: hows the sound quality on the 7.4 load?
04:42.22tronixopsys: ahh, well, that's a good question. :-) (I'm deaf)
04:42.29tronixI'm setting up * mostly to deal with my TDD and fax
04:42.31[av]banio_O
04:42.33tronixhahaha
04:42.38[av]banilol
04:42.41tronixI know. I find it pretty funny too :)
04:43.07tronixtho I do want to set up a phone (the reason why I got the 7960G)
04:43.14[av]banithats about the most unusual setting for * i've heard of so far :)
04:43.14tronixis cause sometimes hearing people comes over
04:43.17tronixhahaha
04:43.34[av]baniso err. why a 7960g?
04:43.43tronixhad lots of them at work.
04:43.47opsysI guess I'l have to wait until you can ask someone..
04:43.58tronixopsys: once I find out, I'll be sure to let you know.
04:44.25Qwelltronix: hack up sphinx and the XML stuff...make it spit out the text of a conversation :p
04:44.26[av]banioh, you stole one ;)
04:44.28opsystronix: have you had sucess with tdd and faxing?
04:44.29tronix[av]bani: it's also easier to "train" people like parents, contractors working here, etc. on using hardphones
04:45.03tronix[av]bani: nah. boss: "we have too many. help yourself" -- that's the nice part of working for a telecom ;)
04:45.26Qwelltronix: got a link to a job application?  heh
04:45.50nroejhmm not working at all
04:45.56tronixQwell: hmmmm. I'm thinking about seeing what it takes to do a TDD-type softphone. think i'm gonna have to dive into baudot and other interesting/hairy old stuff
04:46.15Qwelltronix: talk to SarahEmm
04:46.16tronixQwell: no hires yet. but if something comes up, I'll mention it here or your way
04:46.25[av]banitronix: ooo, can i have some :)
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04:46.26Qwellshe's done a bit of work with TDD stuff
04:46.36tronix[av]bani: :-)
04:46.42tronixQwell: oh? very nice! thanks. will do!
04:46.45[av]banilet me help you with your "problem"
04:46.49tronixhahahaha
04:46.56coppicetronix: * is supposed to support TDD, but SarahEmm says its very quirky
04:47.39tronixunderstandable.
04:47.44tronixprobably not one of the more exercised code paths
04:47.55[av]banicoppice: * is very quirky ;)
04:48.00Qwelltronix: you two are the only two I've heard of
04:48.17coppiceits one of the oldest, though. it goes right back to the original zapata code in 1999
04:48.36tronixwow, neat.
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04:48.54coppiceI have solid TDD support, but its not properly integrated into * right now
04:49.05tronixhm, interesting.
04:49.30nroejno voice maybe my testsetup is to complicated
04:49.52opsysthere was some fixes to the zatel code to 'fix' faxes on the tdm240
04:50.00opsyssorry TDM2400
04:51.22nroeji go gsm->sip->iax2->iax2->capi
04:55.30nroejbut it seems like chan_capi doesnt get it when i pick up the call
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04:58.06Kari1hello
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06:06.20Qwellbkw__: eww
06:07.04[av]banio_O
06:07.19Feral_KidOk, this is probably a lame question. I am connected to a provider through my Sipura 2000... Incoming and outgoing work fine. When I try to access the same provider under *, although the console shows the call is running, I get no sound.
06:07.32[av]baniFeral_Kid: upgrade to 1.2.3
06:08.59Feral_KidBut the Sipura and the * are plugged into the same router... Incidentally, IAX calls on the * run great, but nothing on the SIP side...
06:09.21Feral_Kid[av]bani> Yes, that has already been done...
06:10.13[av]banisounds like nat
06:11.07trixterthe rtp bug that was introduced doesnt bridge 2 channels, it does let you call an application though
06:11.13trixterthis manifested itself on Jan 25
06:11.32Feral_KidWhat would be the difference between the SIPURA and *, the SIPURA is not suffering from that problem, and keep in mind that both the SIPURA and * are on the same router...
06:11.36Qwelltrixter: nice hat
06:11.44trixterdid you see the lights?
06:11.48QwellI saw the lights
06:11.53trixterit was off most of the time but the balls light up
06:12.01Qwelltrixter doesn't know who I was. :D
06:12.05trixterno one put together 'trixter' and that hat
06:12.27trixteryeah I wasnt there to hide
06:13.04Qwelltrixter: we were in the same place at the same time on multiple occasions...mostly outside
06:13.06trixterbtw if the rtp bug isnt enough reason, http://www.trxtel.com/crashterisk.c  lets you spoof IPs and segfault asterisk remotely for most versions in use
06:13.36trixter1.2.3 has the patch applied
06:13.44[av]baniFeral_Kid: the sipura does nat pretty seamlessly, * requires a bit of spanking
06:14.19[av]banitronix: O RLY?
06:14.30tronixhm?
06:14.39trixterits a 1 line fix, dont hangup a channel that doesnt exist..
06:14.47Feral_Kid[av]bani> Any references of what I need to spank to get this working... Anything on voip-info or elsewhere?
06:14.50trixterI think he used tab completion and your nick is alphabetically before mine
06:14.54tronixahhh :)
06:15.03trixterFeral_Kid: externip & localnet in sip.conf
06:15.09trixterthen turn nat=yes in your client definition
06:15.33[av]banisomeone should add stun client support to * :)
06:15.39Feral_Kidtrixter> Both of those are defined in sip.conf
06:15.44trixterI have a stun server
06:15.54trixterit really shouldnt be part of asterisk becuase there is no real reason for it to be
06:16.03[av]banitronix: except in cases like feral_kid's
06:16.05trixterjust get a stun server from elsewhere and install it where you want
06:16.08[av]baniwhere * is a client sitting behind nat
06:16.26trixtermy asterisk sits behind nat at home nad I have no problems
06:16.36trixterafter setting those two correctly, and nat=yes for the phone definition
06:16.37[av]baniyeah, because you config it manually...
06:16.53[av]banistun lets it be automagic
06:16.56trixterfor GUIs I have to say the mac cocoa stuff is slick
06:17.07trixterthere is a reason that people using that GUI config dont ask questions about it
06:17.07[av]banicocoa... ugh
06:17.11Feral_KidActually, I am dealing with double NAT issues
06:17.20[av]banidouble nat, welcome to hell
06:17.31trixtermy friend did a double nat and didnt have problems
06:17.38X-Robiax?
06:17.40trixterwell initially he did because he set externip but forgot localnet
06:17.45trixtersip
06:17.49X-Roblucky.
06:17.54trixterits not that hard
06:17.57[av]banisee, stun lets * figure that all out automagic and stuff
06:18.07Qwelltrixter: Who was that guy you were with most of the time?  Anybody on irc?
06:18.08trixterahh you want a stun client
06:18.17[av]baniso when you got a * box you tote from site to site, it all automagically configures
06:18.17trixterthat would make sense, triggered by some timeout to recheck
06:18.21[av]baniwithout having to touch a conf file
06:18.32trixterQwell: the guy that did the double nat stuff without a problem :)  he isnt on this network though
06:18.36Qwellahh
06:18.41trixterhe works for me
06:18.46[av]banitronix: yes, i want * to be able to be a stun client
06:19.00trixtertry tri<tab> :P
06:19.16[av]bani:P
06:21.12trixterpersonally I think a stun client in asterisk wont happen anytime soon
06:21.27trixteras long as sip is intentionally crippled people can argue that something else is better and sip should be avoided
06:21.37trixterdundi v enum is done the same way as sip v iax
06:21.56[av]baniiax!11!!!oneone
06:22.01trixtercripple the standard protocol slightly so that the non-standard one (ie the one that can change at a moments notice) appears better
06:22.16[av]baniwell, you could make an external stun support for *, it would be kludgy though
06:22.24trixterbut that is my opinion, not backed up by anything other than the fact that sip and enum are intentionally crippled :P
06:22.34[av]banimake it poke a stun server, pick up the settings, ands tuff them in the asterisk conf files
06:22.35trixterunless someone wants to admit to poor coding ability, anyone?  anyone?
06:22.48trixteryou have to periodically renew that
06:23.12trixterincase your dynamic IP changes - which is you are using NAT there is a better chance of that happening than if you arnet
06:24.05justinuhow is sip intentionally crippled?
06:24.12X-Robooh, ooh.
06:24.15X-RobI admit it. My code sucks.
06:24.19trixtersilence supression
06:24.21trixterCNG
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06:24.32trixterits lack of stun for IP resolution
06:24.41justinuoh, you mean crippled in ast?
06:24.46trixteryes
06:24.59trixterso iax seems better in asterisk..  and dundi can publish info but enum cant
06:25.02trixterso dundi seems better
06:25.13justinusip works pretty well for me in ast
06:25.17trixterlittle trhings like that, why I dont think a stun client will be approved any time soon for asterisk sip
06:25.21justinuwe don't use things like CNG, VAD
06:25.33trixterI personally would like to save on bandwidth
06:25.37justinuand static routable IPs
06:25.47trixterwhen you have 2 people talking typically one listens one talks, so VAD == 50% bandwidth savings
06:26.00trixterin a conference its 1/N where N is the number of people in the conf
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06:26.09justinuour upstream provider doesn't support stuff like that either....
06:26.28justinug711u or g729 are the choices
06:26.51trixterCNG & VAD arent in the codec
06:26.53trixteror shouldnt be
06:26.58trixteroh no jitter buffer in sip either
06:27.11trixterit was embedded into the iax channel driver instead of generic to the system for a post codec filter
06:27.28justinui wonder why
06:27.53trixterI personally think it was becuase its an effort to get people to use the digium only standard of iax - rather than something like sip that has RFCs
06:28.04trixterunless someone wants to take credit for bad code ...  anyone?  anyone?
06:28.17Math`lol
06:28.25justinui dunno, i think they put it in iax because of the fact that asterisk originally was setup to do iax to TDM conversion
06:28.35justinui could be totally wrong tho
06:28.41trixterso you think it was a lazy bad coder?
06:28.43trixterwell that could be
06:28.59trixterinstead of doing it right and making it generic for any protocol tie it to one specifically ...
06:28.59[av]banitronix: jitter buffer "coming soon" !
06:29.04trixterheh
06:29.11[av]banito a pbx near you
06:29.20[av]banior you can be brave and play with the patches
06:29.45justinuzoa supposedly did a generic jitter buffer
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06:30.06dmzany fwd users here?
06:30.10Math`yeah
06:30.11trixterit is easier to do it as a channel driver thing becuase you need the timestamps, but it doesnt have to be that way, so its either someone being lazy and not thinking about the real problem, or someone doing it intentionally, either way  that doesnt say good things
06:30.23dmzMath, was that yeah for me?
06:30.27Math`yeah
06:30.29Math`:P
06:30.31trixterasterisk is gpl and my religion bars me from contributing to a gpl product
06:30.38Math`lol
06:30.45trixtermy patches only goto my customers (who so far havent asked for any of them they dont care)
06:30.47dmzcool...hey is it working for you? i was playing with some settings and now I only get a message saying fwd is only for members
06:30.50Math`what's your religion's license? :P
06:31.04dmzi can't seem to call 888### or 411 anymore
06:31.08justinutrixter: you have some good points
06:31.34trixterI get no rtp on FWD, just tried their echo test
06:31.45dmzrtp?
06:31.46X-Robit hates you.
06:31.47Math`dmz: 612 works here
06:31.47trixterit worked last week (my system isnt the one with the problem)
06:31.52dmzlet me try that
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06:32.22trixterthey return congestion on a tollfree
06:32.29trixterso they may be having issues, that one I remember last week
06:33.00dmzthat's what i must be seeing, 612 works for me
06:33.19dmzbad error message though, it says it's only available for registered members instead of saying all lines busy
06:33.47dmzcool, at least i know it's not me :) now to get this iax2 switch config working properly
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06:37.44dmzis there any "easy" way to create/manage meetme conferences other than editing the meetme.conf file?
06:38.04harryvvvia a web page interface?
06:38.14mdaveok, heres a Q. if I have a BV account, and I have a SPA directly registering with them, they provide 'three way' and 'conference' calling. Is this handled by the spa making two calls, or are the calls joined at BV?
06:38.38mdaveif the latter, how can I access bv's three way and/or conference function from * ?
06:38.46Math`mdave: spa
06:38.49mdaveinstead of having * make two seperate 'calls' to...
06:38.51mdavereally?
06:38.58Math`usually yeah
06:39.00mdavehrm
06:39.10Assidbah,.. i gotta write a php code to understand the envelopes of voicemail
06:39.12mdavethe spa doesnt send the 'flash' to bv, and bv gives 2nd tone?
06:39.22Math`some providers might be able to accept sip reinvites for call transfer tho
06:39.37Math`mdave: no the SPA juste originates another call and mixes down their audio
06:39.44justinumdave: you can configure your spa to use a conference uri, but it's probably not doing that
06:39.54Math`there's no "dial-tone" for sip providers :)
06:40.02mdaveseems like the audio quality is much better when I use 3-way when the spa is direct to bv than when I join two channels thru *
06:40.49mdaveI was sort of hoping the 'call transfer' concept was being handled at bv's end
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06:41.14Math`mdave: that might be true if they supporte ReInvites
06:41.18mdaveeg, if I had one call one, made a second via 3-way, then conferenced them, and hung up,
06:41.24mdavethen the spa was no longer in the loop
06:41.45mdaveif they do, how can I make it work that way with * ?
06:42.32mdaveso if there are two calls to bv, and I conference them, and then drop out leaving bv to handle the audio between them
06:45.44mdavewell I gather thats easier said than done then
06:46.15mdavemaybe i'll live without it.. anyway, its off to bed for me
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07:16.26[av]baniweird... asterisk is hung
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07:18.33[av]banihanging on dns lookup for a sip peer...
07:18.39[av]baninice
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07:20.15[av]baniwow... nasty
07:20.25[av]baniif a peer dns lookup fails, asterisk goes all kinds of wonky
07:28.22X-Robyep.
07:28.26X-Robknown problem
07:28.33X-Robasync dns is something that they're going to fix 'one day'
07:28.41X-Robsimple answer: use IP addresses.
07:31.16[av]baniroll the clock back to 1983 :))
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07:32.04Assidhea
07:32.10Assidumm..
07:32.13Assidfor voicemail
07:32.31Assidif i set the timezone to America/New_York instead of eastern.. would it work?
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07:36.51Netslayerwhat benefit would i have doing voicePulse Voip -> Asterisks server -> my phones vs voicePlus Voip -> call box converter -> my phones?
07:37.09Netslayerbasically using asterisk over their converter solution to regular phone lines
07:40.04mattwj2005I am too as far as that goes
07:40.05mattwj2005:P
07:41.29Netslayeri'm trying to basically find out 1. who i should use for voip service 2. if i should go with an asterisks server and 3. if i should buy voip phones or buy regular phones
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07:41.53[av]banii think an octothorpe server might be better
07:42.14harryvvI need to chat with Ariel so far he is uusing a wholsale provider for his clients and I think the provider is keeping up and providing good service.
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07:43.01mattwj2005personally I like an ATA....for regular phones....it makes cordless so easy
07:43.10Netslayerata?
07:43.24trixteranalog telep[hone adapter
07:43.33Netslayerauh
07:43.43trixterit has an fxs port and typically an ethernet port, just plug it into your network and your telephone and you are good to go
07:44.03Netslayerso if i want asterisk + regular phones i'd buy a compatible PCI card to do that?
07:44.15Netslayeror if i want to use the voip providers hardware i go that route?
07:44.31harryvvto bad there wasnt such thing as a wireliss voip phone with ethernet capability. That way if there is no wireless conectivity at say a office you could just plug it in.
07:44.34trixterpci card or ata
07:44.43trixtertypically atas are cheaper $30-50 on average
07:45.14harryvvor, mabey carry a wireless wifi base.
07:45.23mattwj2005yeah I found my off of ebay for $30
07:45.25Netslayerare there any benefits really to going with voip phones that plug into cat 5?
07:45.33mattwj2005it supports two lines
07:45.49harryvvnet, compared to what?
07:45.52Netslayerata
07:46.00trixterI got the dlink AT&T callvantage one for $30, reflashed to sip (it comes mgcp) and it has 2 fxs 1 fxo
07:46.21trixterI am not overly impressed with it but for generic home usage it should be fine
07:46.24harryvvnetslayer, a ipphone is just a digital phone with the ata built into it.
07:46.29Netslayerauh
07:46.46harryvvif you want to simplify it.
07:46.47Netslayerso where does asterisk fit into this?
07:46.58trixterwell its simplier than that, becuase of the lack of real fxs/fxo signalling but meh close enough :P
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07:47.09mattwj2005I haven't played around with them much....but I am guessing you get better sound quality
07:47.19mattwj2005anyone?
07:47.23harryvvif you travel alot a ATA or simple voip phone would work but you need to also carry a analog phone with the ata.
07:47.53Netslayerthis will be my primary phone in my new place
07:47.58trixtera lot of wifi phones wont let you auth with a webbrowser so those arnet good for travel in a lot of circumstances
07:47.59Netslayerno travelling or minimal
07:48.31Netslayercost wise i'd probably prefer using an ATA. unless I can find a cordless phone (expandable set) that starts at like 150
07:48.37harryvva wifi voip phone is good because of the convinence
07:48.57Netslayerok so what kind of wifi voip phones are available?
07:49.17harryvvgoogle it
07:49.25harryvvim going down stairs see ya
07:49.46Netslayeric lots here http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=95_115
07:52.29NetslayerI can split an ATA RJ11 cable to as many phones as I want on the same line right? ie it has the power output to handle a few rooms of phones
07:56.14mattwj2005any ideas anyone?
07:59.08mattwj2005when I tested my setup in lab....I only had one port per phone......I have no idea what type of signal lost you might have
08:01.02argos73don't suppose anyone's using a multitech MT5600ZDX hanging off an asterisk box?  damn thing doesn't want to recognize caller id info.  (MT5600BL on a different port does work)
08:02.19I-MODNetslayer: depends on the REN value the ata puts out and what REN each phone takes
08:06.19I-MODhttp://www.digium.com/downloads/product_sheets/IAXy.pdf
08:06.30I-MODREN of 5 at 1500 ft
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08:06.58I-MODthe ren of all attached phones cant add up to more than 5
08:07.54Netslayerauh thx
08:08.22konfuzedSupaplex: hm
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08:08.46Supaplexyou think?
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08:24.38Feral_KidIs there anyway to make use of stun with asterisk to get me past this sip issue?
08:41.31[av]baniasterisk cant act as a stun client yet
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09:33.19jorge_hi all
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09:33.51jorge_I was trying to apply the spanish line chan_zap patch to asterisk 1.2.3
09:34.00jorge_but I'm getting trouble
09:34.07oatisdoes anyone know of a site that explains setting up xten softphones to asterisks? so I can forward extentions to them etc...
09:34.28jorge_does anybody know if that patch code is applied to 1.2.3 code?
09:35.34oatisIm not too clear on how to setup the username/passwords that get applied to the xten settings
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09:38.04newloatis: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/xten should get you started.
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10:14.59oatishow do I change what the caller id reads when we dial out from the system to like a cell or landline?
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10:43.23wasim_its going to be fun, the entire test series depends on how well the indian batsmen handle our pace attack
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10:53.49wasim_oooh ... laxman and dravid opening
10:59.38coppicewasim: you're going to attack their pacemakers? :-\
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11:02.01paulyhello need some help with my asterisk server when i dial ext 1235 it give me 1234's mailbox
11:02.14paulyany idea why that might happen people can call my servers box but cannot call another client?
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11:03.01PakiPenguinhello everyone
11:05.28paulyhello
11:07.44pauly.server irc.efnet.net
11:12.02wasim_the question remains, has sehwag sat enough time out to come into bat
11:12.24wasim_apparently so ...
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11:20.20RoyKwasim_: ding
11:20.30wasim_oh well, sehwag didn't end up mattering too much
11:20.46wasim_NOW, will the lil' master show us magic ...
11:21.04PakiPenguinshewag bye bye
11:23.14[av]baniis it possible to use zaptel driver's echo canceller as an AEC for non digium hardware?
11:23.54wasim_ooh ... ouch
11:27.34coppice[av]bani: since it isn't very good, why would you want to? :-\
11:27.52[av]banibecause the spa3000's is worse?
11:28.13[av]banimg2 is supposed to be ok
11:28.20coppice[av]bani: you certainly can't use it for something like an spa3000
11:28.29[av]banibecause
11:29.13coppicebecause you will be at the other end of a VoIP pipe from the interface. EC requires a very tight constant length loop
11:30.52[av]banihm.. so this 128ms, 256ms means nothing?
11:30.57[av]baniand sliding windows
11:31.35coppicehow do sliding windows come into this?
11:32.50X-Robbecause you'll have to slide open the window to yell at your neighbour when the phone doesn't work?
11:33.47coppiceI thought he was referring to microsoft's market share
11:35.31X-Robspeaking of EC, lastest stuff in truck works very very well.
11:35.48X-Robtrunk even
11:36.20coppiceX-Rob there are various stories about that. how well it works depends a lot on what you do. its still actually a very crude canceller, easily upset
11:36.51coppiceunless miracles occured in the last couple of weeks :-)
11:37.02X-RobOh yes, definately. But it works, 99% of the time, which is far better than the 30% we were getting.
11:37.17X-Roband you can confuse it easily
11:38.22coppicei think its time we started on a profoundly useful kernel EC module, not specifically tied to zaptel
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11:47.16RoyKanyone here that knows a good sip load balancer without the nat problems that ser introduces?
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11:51.38RoyKhm.....
11:51.48RoyKhumtitum....
11:52.02[av]banihm, cisco's EC are any good on their VIC-blabla-FXO cards?
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11:55.00X-Robcoppice, when you say 'we', I hope you're not including me with it - unless I can write the docco for it 8)
11:55.08[av]banicisco says G.165 32ms ...
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12:01.07puzzledmorning
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12:03.02RoyKmorning, puz
12:03.12RoyKi wonder....
12:03.24RoyKhow many calls can an asterisk box handle?
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12:04.57X-Robnot fucking 5000.
12:05.27BugKhamanyone using Soyo G668?
12:05.38coppicewhy not? if its all SIP and the audio bypasses he box?
12:05.59X-Robbecause the internal bandwidth of the machine is going to be insufficient to switch that much IO
12:06.37[av]baniBugKham: it's a p168 clone
12:06.58coppiceI said "and the audio bypasses the box"
12:07.06X-RobOh
12:07.08X-RobI didn't see that
12:07.09X-Robdon't mind me.
12:07.35[av]banihow many packets/sec would 5000 calls be?
12:07.54BugKham[av]bani: can't dial a 4-digit extension
12:08.09BugKham[av]bani: u know where to change?
12:08.20[av]baniBugKham: probably dialplan in the phone
12:08.57BugKham[av]bani: k, will have a look again?
12:09.00RoyK[av]bani: 20ms per packet means 50 packets per second each direction
12:09.03coppice[av]bani: for 20ms packets it would be 5000*50*2 = 500,000
12:09.13[av]banihttp://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/Asterisk+phone+Soyo+G668
12:10.05[av]baniand those packets sizes are...
12:10.13coppicethe Soyo phone is made by one of the chinese PA168 makers. can't remember which one, though
12:10.37[av]banii suspect you'd need gbe backbone for 5000 calls alone ...
12:11.32X-Rob[av]bani, I posted this to -users a couple of hours ago:
12:11.32X-RobTo handle 5000 calls coming in over a PRI, you’d need 210 or so T1s or 170 E1’s.
12:11.33X-RobAll of those would generate 320Mega BYTES of data per second (eg, 32Gigabit/sec)
12:11.56X-RobIf you do, honestly, need to handle 5k calls, you’d probably have to have a bank of Cisco 5850s doing the termination – With a max of 5 DS3 (1 DS3 = 28 T1’s) into each one, you’ll need 8, or probably 9 as you’d want to have one as a hot spare.
12:12.11X-RobEach of those DS3’s would go into some beefy switching fabric (note, that each one is producting 225mbit)
12:12.22[av]banihm, grandstream calls it 'early dial', snom calls it 'overlap dialing'
12:12.25[av]baniwhich is the correct term?
12:12.33X-Roboverlap dialing.
12:13.12[av]baniasterisk sure is noisy when snom tries to overlap dial
12:13.16[av]banilots of errors and warnings
12:13.31coppicethe technical term is "premature ejaculation of dialed digits"
12:13.40X-Robhehe
12:14.56[av]banifinding it hard to get the 'dial 9 for outside line' pbx-ish thing going with overlap dialing
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12:16.11[av]banisipura doesnt seem to have the feature at all
12:16.14[av]bani...
12:18.59RoyKis there something that should limit the number of calls apart from cpu load?
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12:19.04wasim_concurrent setup or concurrent?
12:19.14RoyKconcurrent
12:19.17[av]baniRoyK: mem bandwidth
12:20.24RoyK[av]bani: that shouldn't be too important,should it? it's not like it's that much data.....
12:20.47[av]baniit could be a bottleneck apart from cpu load
12:25.42wasim_i'm a happy man at 25 calls per second setup and 250 concurrent
12:26.14wasim_tdm(iax|sip)
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12:27.07frenzyhello
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12:28.08frenzyI'm configuring my grandstream device, it asks me iLBC payload between (96 and 127)
12:28.31frenzywhich value is best ?
12:29.43wasim_if there was a best, they wouldn't give you a choice, they'd just stick that in and be done with it
12:29.50RoyKops
12:29.50RoyKJan 29 12:29:44 ERROR[17067]: rtp.c:947 ast_rtp_new_with_bindaddr: Unable to allocate socket: Too many open files
12:29.50RoyKJan 29 12:29:44 WARNING[17067]: chan_sip.c:3083 sip_alloc: Unable to create RTP audio  session: Too many open files
12:30.00[av]bani:)
12:30.28frenzywasim_: I meant compatibility wise with asterisk
12:30.31coppiceRoyK: you need to up the kernel file limit
12:31.51RoyKcoppice: yeah, and user (ulimit)
12:32.21coppiceulimit is usually set to unlimited
12:36.06RoyK4663 active channels
12:36.06RoyK2346 active calls
12:36.16RoyKcoppice: no, not on linux systems. the normal is 1024
12:36.33RoyKwhich is of course far too low...
12:36.43wasim_RoyK: iax-iax, same box or two different boxes, and where are teh far ends?
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12:42.54[av]baniyou need to up the kernel limit
12:43.09[av]banier :)
12:44.00[av]banifs.file-max = 16384
12:44.03[av]banior something like that
12:44.34[av]banihmm, its mem dependent now...
12:44.39[av]bani$ cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max
12:44.39[av]bani152930
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12:57.18RoyK[av]bani: i'm aware of it......
12:57.25RoyK:)
12:57.52RoyK[av]bani: i've written a new safe_asterisk script (or rewritten it) to do that on startup. it's in trunk now
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13:00.31RoyKthis is quite interessting.....
13:00.35RoyKinteresssssssssssting
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13:03.20RoyKon a single xeon 3.0 with ht and some 150 concurrent calls, asterisk makes the server eat some 30% cpu
13:03.26RoyKmainly system time
13:03.36wasim_codec?
13:03.49RoyKjust alaw
13:04.19RoyKi dial into one box, which dials another over sip, which dials back with sip, ping pong to a total 300 channels
13:04.49RoyKbut _system_ time?
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13:11.52RoyKwtf
13:11.58RoyKkernel is using all the time in get_offset_pmtmr
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14:14.08RoyKhm
14:14.12RoyKquiet
14:15.14BBytestoo quiet
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14:22.30thazzaIts mostly quite at this time.
14:22.46thazzaeven quiet
14:22.56SeedyAnyone use RAGI with asterisk?
14:25.31RoyKwtf is ragi?
14:25.35RoyK~ragi
14:25.47SeedyIt is a ruby interface to asterisk
14:25.58SeedyIt would be really cool if I could get it to work
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15:06.26RoyKanyone around?
15:06.43coppiceno
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15:08.12WezzeyAasterisk dumped a core this morning.
15:08.41RoyKtesting asterisk, one box gets a call from pstn, forwards it to another box over SIP, that box forwards it back on SIP, and this is done 500 times, so a total of 1000 calls are generated. the call is then answered with app_echo. on one server, the one answering the call, the linux system load goes way up. on the other, cpu load is still < 5%
15:08.55RoyKWezzeyA: backtrace it :)
15:09.21WezzeyARoyK: I just need the core file to do that, right?
15:09.33RoyKyes
15:09.40RoyKand the asterisk binary, of course
15:09.46RoyKgdb asterisk core.xxx
15:09.48RoyKbt
15:10.03WezzeyAnow to find that core file.
15:10.34RoyKfind / -name core\* -type f :)
15:10.50WezzeyAI found it.
15:12.13WezzeyAhttp://pastebin.ca/39010
15:13.41WezzeyARunning:  SVN-trunk-r8643M
15:15.40WezzeyAhttp://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=6319
15:15.47WezzeyAalready reported.
15:16.40RoyKWezzeyA: is this with a recent 1.2?
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15:29.48bmg505hoe ban ons daai guid
15:29.56bmg505soz wrong channel
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15:43.10_Martin_hi all
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15:51.06pifiumorning everyone
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15:55.22Assidhrmm.. when you hear a message.. does it always go to the Old directory?
15:55.40Assidor does it work like imap and change some flag or somethuing but remain in inbox?
15:56.03Assiderr.. thats regarding voicemail
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16:00.58_Sam--anyone using a mini-itx motherboard with asterisk?
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16:02.39WeezeyDAssid: always jumps into Old if you've heard it.
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16:12.07markithi :) I don't remember how to prevent 2 sip phones to do a direct bridge with the dial command (want asterisk to stay in the middle), anyone can help? asterisk 1.2.2
16:15.09nroejmarkit: canreinvte=no
16:15.16_Sam--first thing to do is to get off 1.2.2
16:15.21_Sam--check topic
16:15.41ManxPower1.2.2 is massibly broken.
16:15.46markitnroej: ah, a sip flag, I guess
16:16.03nroejmarkit: sip.conf
16:16.09markitthanks, I've seen, the truth is that I'm using 1.2.x svn, so it's updated, thanks a lot
16:16.28nroejbut its not canreinvte its canreinvite ...
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16:18.09markiteven with that at =no, I have in the CLI this: " -- Attempting native bridge of SIP/bt101-17a7 and SIP/bt102-e366"
16:18.38markit(canreinvite is spelt ok since was already in the sip.conf, just commented)
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16:20.25tzafrir_laptopmassively broken?
16:20.42tzafrir_laptopdepends on when you try...
16:21.26markitdamn, it ignores the atxfer *2, sigh
16:23.36wunderkinyou cant use dtmf when you have reinvite on right?
16:25.06markitwunderkin: I've canreinvite=no, even if in the cli seems to try to do a native bridge
16:25.21wunderkindoesnt matter what it says on the console
16:25.33wunderkini thought that was removed, maybe only in head
16:26.12markitok, so the native bridge shoud be disabled (yes, I've restarted the asterisk server after editing sip.conf)
16:26.25wunderkinyou dont have to restart
16:26.41markitwunderkin: well, it does not hurt ;)
16:26.59wunderkinsip reload or reload chan_sip.so should have worked
16:27.02markitdo you know a way to see if really the native bridging is disabled, from the CLI?
16:28.13wunderkinnative bridge isnt the same as a reinvite i dont think
16:28.49markitok, maybe I've problems with music on hold
16:28.55markitlet me investigate further
16:29.21markitfirst time I make it work after long long time, updated the config files but a lot of things to check :)
16:29.46markitwunderkin: thanks a lot :)
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16:30.10markitbtw, no more asterisk news here: http://www.sineapps.com/news.php
16:30.21markitsigh... anyone know what happend to it?
16:30.52Math`domain not renewed?
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16:30.55markitmaybe he just forgot to pay the revenue
16:30.57markityes
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16:31.27markitis it an accident, or the guy that wrote those usefull news has no interest in it anymore? maybe he is here in the channel...
16:31.43wunderkinmath is right
16:32.01wunderkini wonder how much nsi gauges you for it
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16:41.25jmcchope this is an easy one, but can't seem to find the answer: how to make a zap fxo channel *not* answer on incoming ring?
16:42.13I-MODjust dont call Answer()
16:44.18jmccI-MOD: I see...so if I want to make an FXO channel outbound only, don't call Answer() in the dialplan context for it
16:44.35jmccbetter yet, can I just give zapata.conf an invalid context ?
16:44.46I-MODmaybe....
16:45.01jmcceasy to try.  thanks
16:45.06I-MODor a blank context
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16:46.35ctooleyAnyone know how to get the "Accounts" tab to show up in Windows Messenger to be able to configure it to talk to Asterisk?
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16:49.41ctooleyAha, required an _older_ version of 4.7
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16:56.18phpboyhey all
16:56.23I-MODhowdy
16:56.34ctooleyhello
16:56.49phpboyI'm having trouble dialing out to pstn with my extention... this is the error I get:-
16:57.07phpboyJan 29 18:55:58 WARNING[7114]: chan_modem_i4l.c:608 i4l_dial: Outgoing MSN 9780 not allowed (see outgoingmsn=,*, in modem.conf)
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16:57.54mastixhi everybody
16:58.37mastixi have a question does anybody tried to use g.729 or g.723 codec on asterisk
16:58.41mastix?
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17:02.06The_Xhi folks
17:02.27mastixhi there
17:02.49The_XI have a patton acting as a gateway for the asterisk
17:03.06The_Xdoes the sip phone have to be able to talk to the gateway to work outbound?
17:03.12The_Xor asterisk routes everything
17:03.34The_Xie my asterisk is on a public IP and the gateway is on a private subnet
17:03.34mastixit is up to you
17:03.43The_Xhow do you configure it?
17:03.57mastixhmm
17:04.05mastixits litle bit complicated
17:04.24mastixbut it is better if you route the call through asterik
17:04.26nassydoes anyone know of a web site that compares various PBX's to asterisk?
17:05.08mastixthe_x:if you make the routing on asterisk you have to make nat just for asterisk not for each phone
17:06.10The_XI have a 7960 at home
17:06.13The_Xasterisk at work
17:06.20The_Xand all the phones at work use that asterisk box
17:06.28The_Xwhen I talk from home to the 7960s at work, it works fine
17:06.34The_Xbut if I call my cell from home
17:06.46The_Xcell -> works
17:06.52The_Xbut voice from 7960 -> cell doesn't
17:07.06*** join/#asterisk JohnnyG (n=email@70.114.247.89)
17:07.09The_Xso I'm wondering if the problem is not the patton being unreachable from home
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17:09.27mastixthe patton is also on private ip address at work?
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17:09.34The_Xyes
17:09.44The_Xasterisk eth0 = public
17:09.47The_Xeth1= private
17:09.51The_Xfor talk with patton
17:09.55JohnnyGHello all, I'm currently deciding between forking over ~50k to Fonality.com for a PBX system or building one myself. I've found some amazing open source apps, asterisk@home, astlinux - what is the tool I should look closely at if I want to run a phone system over 6 states and 120 people?
17:11.19dpryoJohnnyG: Debian + asterisk is a win :)
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17:12.39sawmoin gents.
17:13.05sawis there already bristuff out for 1.2.3? ... the patches for 1.2.2 fail on 3 hunks.
17:13.11JohnnyGdpryo: I've seen Zaptel by Digitum mentioned as the hardware of choice, since Digitum is the main developer for asterick (at least, thats what I gathered from the reading)
17:13.46JohnnyGdpryo: how do their cards stack up in terms of price, functionality and ease of install
17:13.46dpryoJohnnyG: Sangoma also produces good boards
17:14.31dpryoIt's very cheap if you configure stuff your self.
17:15.28dpryoAnd the documentation is out there, easy to find
17:15.29SkramXctooley: Hey man.
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17:15.48SkramXWe spoke a while back about /possible/ internship, etc.
17:15.50tzafrir_laptopsaw, use 1.2.2 and the i patch. It includes the critical fix of 1.2.3
17:16.12sawah, cool.
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17:16.18JohnnyGdpryo: right now, each of the 6 offices has analog lines and old phones - are these old phones upgradable to VOIP or is that a pipe dream? how do phones work? is there a "phone PCI" slot?
17:16.45sawat least its less work than fiddle with the patches stuff and so. thanks, mate.
17:17.10BugKhamcan we connect two asterisk servers with 2 E100Ps?
17:17.59BugKhamdon't quite get it when reading from the wiki
17:17.59wunderkinBugKham, yeah you can
17:18.12The_Xif I have a sip phone on a public ip address talking to an asterisk server on a public address to phones behind the asterisk on private addresses, can the sip phones talk to each other?
17:18.17dpryoJohnnyG: There is hardware for connecting analog pots-phones to asterisk. I think sangoma got it
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17:18.29phpboyI'm having trouble dialing out to pstn with my extention... this is the error I get:-
17:18.34phpboyJan 29 18:55:58 WARNING[7114]: chan_modem_i4l.c:608 i4l_dial: Outgoing MSN 9780 not allowed (see outgoingmsn=,*, in modem.conf)
17:18.34dpryoJohnnyG: or you could get sip-adapters for each phone.
17:18.35BugKhamwunderkin: what media do I use? a cross over cable?
17:18.38I-MODdigium tdm2400p or tdm400p
17:18.39*** part/#asterisk anthm (n=anthmct@CPE-69-76-83-52.wi.res.rr.com)
17:18.51I-MODfor the analog -> asterisk
17:18.52wunderkinBugKham, a t1 crossover
17:19.03JohnnyGdpryo: I hear PRI and i hear SIP, whats the difference?
17:19.11I-MODs/t1/e1
17:19.20I-MODnvm
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17:19.31dpryoJohnnyG: PRI is t1/e1 trunks, SIP is a networking protocol
17:19.32phpboyJohnJacob: SIP == sip protocal PRI is an ISDN type
17:19.32I-MODJohnnyG: completely different
17:19.55phpboyJohnnyG: dirrectly they have nothing to do with one another
17:19.56BugKhamwunderkin: hmm, u mean just like conecting two computers on LAN, right?
17:20.01JohnnyGdpryo: what protocol does SIP oppose or replace
17:20.25I-MODSIP is a voip protoco;
17:20.27I-MODl
17:20.29dpryoJohnnyG: It's a protocol that sets up connection between pbx's or voip-phones over TCP/IP
17:20.33dpryoJohnnyG: or udp/ip
17:20.36phpboyJohnnyG: None of the above... it's the 'telephone' protocal of VOIP
17:20.38wunderkinBugKham, not sure how you mean.. but a t1 crossover is not the same as an ethernet crossover, google for it... the cable will run from card to card
17:20.46phpboyguys... my outgoingmsn
17:20.50phpboyanyone go any ideas?
17:21.32wunderkinBugKham, also you can use voip.. iax,sip,etc
17:21.51I-MODphpboy: you want to connect msn messenger to *?
17:22.10BugKhamwunderkin: k, i will need an E1 crossover then
17:22.18dpryoOr perhaps set the isdn msn?
17:22.25wunderkinBugKham, yes but they are the same
17:22.38wunderkini would think
17:22.40dpryo(Though it's possible to connect messenger to asterisk, via SIP)
17:23.31I-MODuggg....acronyms getting jumbled in head
17:23.32wunderkinyes it is the same
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17:24.54BugKhamwunderkin: they are made from CAT 5 cable with RJ45, I guess
17:25.15I-MODyeah
17:25.25I-MOD1->4,2->5
17:26.16phpboyhmmm... this is stange
17:26.34phpboystrange... even if I remove my modem.conf file... it still dials through ISDN
17:26.40phpboyweird
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17:27.23phpboydpryo: how do I reload modem.conf... I'm obviously not doing it correctly
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17:27.44tronixcan Asterisk do transcoding? e.g. IAX2 soft phone -> Asterisk -> Cisco 7960G SIP hardphone?
17:27.58I-MODyes
17:28.08tronixhm. ok. I must be goofing my IAX2 setup somewhere. :) thanks!
17:28.15tronix(I've got all of my SIP hard/soft phones working great.)
17:28.34websaewhere is the best place to purchase SIP phones and equipment---for the best deals?
17:28.56[TK]D-Fenderwebsae : Depends on what products specifically, and where you live.
17:29.03tronixdepends. I've seen a few telecom dealers with huge batches of stuff to unload, NIB and all
17:29.09dpryophpboy: 'reload' in cli should reload it
17:29.14websaeWisconsin---looking for sip phones
17:29.15phpboyhmm
17:29.16[TK]D-Fenderwebsae : Some dealers are better for certain models than others.
17:29.24phpboyI removed the modem.conf file but it still works
17:29.31phpboywtf? :/
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17:29.42The_Xhow can you get a phone on a public IP to talk to a phone on a private ip behind asterisk
17:29.51websaehow about sipura/cisco
17:30.05The_Xie 7960 (public) -> asterisk(public) -> 7960(private)
17:30.27The_Xasterisk server has 2 interfaces
17:30.44JohnnyGdypro: so I buy a server, I buy PRI lines, i install debian and asterisks, I buy a PRI supporting card and phones that support VOIP using the SIP protocol
17:30.49tronixwebsae: I can't do PMs at moment (no pw) but let me look up where I got mine
17:31.08websaetronix: would greatly appreciate that
17:31.58dpryoJohnnyG: Yes, however, you don't need 6 different PRI lines. If the offices has a good internet connection you could route all calls to one main office.
17:32.22phpboydpryo: I restarted asterisk and it seemed to reload the modem.conf file
17:32.42phpboybut even if I set the out going MSN... ie the last 4 digits of the number
17:32.50tzafrir_laptopphpboy, noload chan_modem.so ?
17:33.07phpboyit still doesn't ring with the correct extention
17:33.28tzafrir_laptopoops, sorry. People actually still use it
17:33.35phpboytzafrir_laptop: nope... it does work to the PSTN
17:33.47phpboyjust doesn't dial through the correct extentio
17:33.50phpboyextention even
17:33.55JohnnyGdpryo: we are out of Houston, Tx and Cbeyond seems like a good VOIP provider. We'd like to run everything out of there. If an office in New Orleans has a broadband connection and 3 phones - how do I get those phones to use our Houston office to call out?
17:34.00tzafrir_laptopphpboy, analog?
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17:34.36tronixwebsae: I bought my new 7960G from optimumdata.com via eBay but looks like they only deal with Cisco gear. I saw another voip hw provider somewhere but can't remember, alas.
17:34.42*** part/#asterisk Navman_Lap (n=icechat5@62.108.206.82)
17:34.43dpryoJohnnyG: Either get the SIP-phones to connect to the Houston-asterisk, or set up an asterisk in new orleans too, and connect the two asterisks via IAX2
17:35.17tronix(for folks following in channel, yes, I have a borrowed work 7960G that's hooked into the corporate CCM via VPN *plus* my own 7960G -> my * server)
17:35.31phpboytzafrir_home: ISDN
17:36.02phpboyit works from the outside... if I dial a certain extention it goes through to the right extention... but if I dial out it dials through the main number :<
17:36.07phpboynot the MSN I specify :/
17:36.36JohnnyGdpryo: how does a SIP enabled phone get told to connect to our asterisk server in houston? do you configure it to say "connect to this static IP with this password/key?"
17:37.13dpryoJohnnyG: Yeah, you define extension and ip-addresses
17:37.28dpryoJohnnyG: You probably want a VPN-connection.
17:37.34tronixif it's something like the 7960G, you define SIP proxy server IPs in the phone's config, then let the SIP proxy server (asterisk) sort out routing
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17:38.00tronixditto with user/pass for * in the phone's config too
17:38.54phpboytzafrir_laptop: what do u think?
17:39.31JohnnyGdpryo: how much call traffic can a low end broadband connection handle without quality problems? New Orleans broadband is understandably recovering
17:40.25dpryoJohnnyG: One single call needs at least 64kbits (depending on the codec used of course)
17:40.42websaeuse g.729
17:40.51websae20kbps
17:40.52dpryoyeah, g729 uses around 8k? I think
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17:41.01slanWhat 3 letters would I type to lookup the directory entry for "Larry Office"?  Tried 527, 633, 634 and the extension # 120.
17:41.43websaehow do you get voicemail setup with g.729 codec without having to by the ports to do so?
17:41.45JohnnyGdpryo: so codecs basically let you choose how much quality you want - some are for 64k and some only take 8k and you trade size for quality?
17:41.45websaeanyone know?
17:41.46markitlanguage=it in extensiosn.conf seems have no effects... has the internationalization structure changed since 1.0? is having sounds/it ok still?
17:42.21dpryoJohnnyG: Well, g.729 uses little bandwidth, however it got very good quality too
17:42.30markitwell, CLI states "(language 'en')" at every message, so seems it does not understand the language setting
17:42.33JohnnyGno kidding...
17:42.49tzafrir_laptopmarkit, hi just got your email
17:43.13markittzafrir_laptop: are you debian manteiner? :)
17:43.15tzafrir_laptopmarkit, no, the structure hasn't
17:43.23dpryobrb, the cat is attacking the tarantella.. argh
17:43.26tzafrir_laptopmarkit, sort of. I help there
17:44.01tzafrir_laptopI believe that the layout in the SVN has changed a bit, but they'll restore it for tarballs.
17:44.17phpboy:/
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17:45.00tzafrir_laptopmarkit, maybe the language was set explicitly to "en"? either in the channel definitions or in the dialplan
17:45.14markittzafrir_laptop: well, CLI tells that the language selected is "en", even if I've language=it in [general]... this worked fine with 1.0.x (I'm restarting using asterisk since octoper 2004...)
17:45.38websae_hrm
17:45.43websae_anyone using the g.729 codec
17:45.49websae_i have issues getting vmail setup
17:45.52tzafrir_laptopmarkit, The syntax of setting variables might have changed a little.
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17:48.05JohnnyGdrpyo: thank you very much for taking the time to answer my questions. :)
17:48.13markittzafrir_laptop: I had nothing in sip.conf, and language=it in extensions.conf, and ignored it
17:48.14slanIs there a CLI command to force Asterisk to re-read its configuration files?
17:48.24I-MODreload
17:48.25markittzafrir_laptop: setting language=en in sip.conf solved
17:48.39markittzafrir_laptop: is it a bug or just my ignorance?
17:48.50slanI-MOD: Thanks I'll try that now.
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17:52.02tzafrir_laptopmarkit, I never saw the order in which those definitions should be applied documented anywhere
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17:52.32tzafrir_laptophmm, misread
17:53.45tzafrir_laptopI'm not sure languagge=it in extensions.conf should apply.
17:53.50tzafrir_laptopShould it?
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17:54.20ConnorIs their any major routing issues past few days?? I've been having a hard time pulling a few major sites..
17:56.31slanI-MOD: Tried changing the HOSTNAME in sysconfig/network, then asterisk.reload but HOSTNAME did not change.  There is no reload, just asterisk.reload in A@Home
17:56.58slanHate doing shutdown -r now all the time
17:57.15markittzafrir_laptop: I'm reading documentation, probably should not... no error is raisen, though, but it does not work!
17:57.16I-MODjust do a stop now in asterisk cli
17:57.23I-MODand start it up again
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17:57.53slanI-MOD: What commands to 'stop' and 'start'?
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17:58.14I-MODcan you get to the asterisk cli?
17:58.18I-MODtype stop now
17:58.53slanI-MOD: Yes I do cli.  I'm at another machine.  Just a min.
17:59.13slanI-MOD:  Did you mean type 'stop' or 'stop now'?
17:59.20I-MOD"stop now"
17:59.25slanI-MOD:
17:59.34slanI-MOD: Roger thanks.
18:00.41markittzafrir_laptop: I'd better upload a new readme.pdf for the italian set and specify this (my mistake)
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18:01.22slanI-MOD: There is no 'stop' in which and no variation of stop in locate.  Maybe AAH is different.
18:01.26tzafrir_laptopmarkit, any chance you could have a simple plain-text README? I don't always have a PDF reader when in the shell
18:02.10markittzafrir_laptop: it's a text with a lot of formatting, prepared with OpenOffice, it's 99% italian
18:02.12znoGdoes anyone use distinctive ring detection with a Zaptel FXO card?
18:02.35I-MODslan: not just different, retarded too
18:02.42tzafrir_laptopznoG, I used it a bit. read the docs.
18:02.57tzafrir_laptopznoG, anyway, I'm going soon
18:03.08znoGtzafrir_laptop: have read' the docs, did everything the docs said to do (which isn't much, simply usedistinctiveringdetection=yes and setting the dring patterns)
18:03.19I-MODkill -9 `pidof asterisk`
18:03.30tzafrir_laptopznoG, It was nice, bt didn't work in 100% of the cases. Ad anyway, it was a x100p card
18:03.38znoGthe main problem is the distinctive ring patterns are always 0,0,0 .. and asterisk never really waits those 2 seconds before answering to detect the pattern
18:03.53slanI-MOD: Is that dangerous?  Will it reboot or just re-read the configurations?
18:04.00tzafrir_laptopznoG, did you set a separate context for each type?
18:04.23tzafrir_laptopznoG, also, some verbosity would help
18:04.31slanI-MOD: Maybe it's _me_ thats retarded <g>
18:04.38znoGtzafrir_laptop: i started asterisk with -vvvvvvvvvvvc ...
18:04.50znoGtzafrir_laptop: yep, i set a different context for each dring patter
18:04.50znoGn
18:05.08tzafrir_laptopso maybe the ring is not close enough to your patterns?
18:05.10znoGtzafrir_laptop: but, as i said, the main problem is that Asterisk doesn't wait 2 seconds to detect the ringing pattern, no idea why
18:05.27tzafrir_laptopznoG, also: did you restart asterisk after changes to zapata.conf?
18:05.29tzafrir_laptopGTG
18:05.44znoGyeah did that many times
18:05.58znoGok thanks tzafrir if you're on later, and you feel like helping out, i'd love a look at your conf files
18:08.15kuku5anyone reselling level1 termination ?
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18:10.29wunderkinlol you mean level3?
18:12.08JohnnyGwhat can asterisk do that asterick@home can not
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18:14.44dogtanianJohnnyG: nothing much
18:15.48JohnnyGif I ran astericks@home for 120 users, would that be foolish?
18:15.59dogtanianhmm
18:16.06dogtaniani'm not sure about that one tbh
18:19.03RoyKanyone that knows how to simulate, say, 20k SIP clients?
18:29.21markittzafrir_laptop: new files updated and uploaded (time: 19:17)
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18:38.17jhiverhi all
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18:39.22kippi1hey
18:39.33jhiverI was wondering how to manage prefix translation in asterisk
18:39.42jhiveryou know, like I have a [world] context
18:39.52jhiverwith numbers in international format, so for instance
18:39.52kippi1whats the call stats program called? that gives you all your call info in a web page?
18:40.10jhiver_33X. => Dial (...) ; provider for france
18:40.34jhiverand I want in another context to be able to dial 0X. instead of 33X.
18:40.47jhiverhow would you handle this in the dialplan?
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18:47.07kippi1is there away on queues to be able to put a lan line or mobile number in there?
18:47.12QwellJohnnyG: yes, it would be very foolish
18:47.25Qwellkippi1: sure
18:47.46Alrickippil: Yeah, thats possible in a few ways.
18:47.48Qwelljust put in the same thing you would for Dial()
18:47.53kippi1in agents put the number in there?
18:52.26kuku5wunderkin: level3 :)
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18:56.48kippi1how would you add a agent on the cmd?
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19:04.32hickinscan anyone tell me how can I detect hangups? i need to execute code when hangup
19:04.45wunderkinin the queues.conf put member => SIP/peer/number maybe?  i would use agentcallbacklogin though, because otherwise you would get multiple calls at once
19:06.28kippi1when I try and login it asks me for a new extension
19:06.35hickinswe use zap only
19:07.25wunderkinhickins, h exten
19:07.53wunderkinkippi1, exten => 201,1,AgentCallbackLogin(1001||1000@autodial-outagent)
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19:10.00kippi1hmm still asking for my new extension
19:10.19wunderkinthen you arent supplying a valid exten/context
19:11.07hickinsthanks
19:11.11kippi1hmm
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19:11.57wunderkin[autodial-outagent] exten => 1000,1,Dial(...
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19:15.30kippi1wunderkin: can i pm you?
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19:17.50trixterif I believed in symbolism I 3would have to comment on the fact there are 420 users in here..  doh! someone just left
19:21.10Drew___i have a grandstream gxp2k phone with the newest beta firmware that supports "asterisk BLF" for the quickdial buttons/LEDs - i would like to use one of the LEDs with the dialplan - is there a way to manipulate the LEDs using the dialplan? OR how do i spoof the status uf a extension so that the phone activates the LED??
19:23.27AugheyDrew: If you find out the answer to this question, I'd be interested too.  I just got a gxp-2000 to test and that would be a nice feature to have
19:23.52AugheyI'd like to light up those buttons if someone is transferred to a park extension
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19:24.41trixterI woiuld like to make them blink in series so its like a cylon eye
19:24.59xachen:p
19:25.09tronixwhat port was iax2 on? was it 4569 or was it 5060?
19:25.14tronix5060's sip and 4569's iax?
19:25.16Qwell4569 udp
19:25.17trixter5060 is sip
19:25.17Qwellyes
19:25.20tronixsweet. thanks
19:25.21AugheyDraw: have you looked at http://www.jackenhack.com/blog/archives/2005/11/22/setting-up-subscribenotify-blf-in-asteriskhome-for-grandstream-gxp-2000-phones/
19:25.40tronixi've also finally gotten my iaxy to work and 7960g and some other stuff... getting there.
19:25.56Drew___yes aughey - that works - but i dont need the led to show the stutus of a _real_ extension
19:26.05luke-jr_Jan 29 19:21:32 [kernel] asterisk[11234]: segfault at 00000000000000f8 rip 0000000000415320 rsp 00000000409fdc60 error 6
19:26.05luke-jr_:(
19:26.15Drew___i what it to show some kind of info - so i need to spoof the status of a extension
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19:26.15trixterthat is no good
19:26.22QwellAughey: there are so many things wrong with that URL, I don't even know where to start
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19:27.14trixterluke-jr_: what were you doing when it segfaulted?
19:27.16AugheyQwell: with the text, or the url itself
19:27.19QwellAughey: the url
19:27.57Drew___hm.... this might work: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+BristuffDevstate - but what is this bristuff stuff??
19:28.00AugheyI'm just the messenger
19:28.02Silivrenioni saw a video about asterisk with someone using a wireless phone thing that connected to wireless access points to communicate with the home line of the asterisk box. I know i'll need that sip box to interface the phoneline to ethernet, but where can I find the actual wireless phone device?
19:28.28Math`a wifi videophone?
19:28.30Drew___silvi - look in the voip wiki under hardware phones ;-)
19:28.40SilivrenionMath` :: not videophone...
19:28.46QwellMath`: when you need pr0n on the go
19:28.56SilivrenionDrew___ :: do you have a link?
19:28.57Drew___lol
19:28.58Math`Qwell: heh, I wanted to make smth up with my tv tuner card
19:29.17Math`"Please dial the channel you wish to watch followed by the pound key"
19:29.40Nivexdude!  That is such a good idea!
19:29.54Math`lol
19:29.55Nivexor since I don't watch much TV, tie it in to my media player
19:30.16Math`TV over IP aint new
19:30.16Silivrenionno, i just want to interface a wifi phone with my server, so i need to find out the hardware costs to do this
19:30.24Drew___http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/view/VOIP+Phones#WLANorWiFiPhones
19:30.29Nivex4 for prev track, 5 for pause/play, 6 for next track
19:30.29Math`there's some on voipsupply
19:30.34Silivrenionthanks
19:30.36Math`http://www.voipsupply.com/index.php?cPath=270_279
19:30.44QwellNivex: there is an AGI jukebox
19:30.55Drew___any ideas on that bristuff ting an the LEDs?
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19:31.12Math`Silivrenion: but... motorola released a dual wifi+gsm phone
19:31.20Drew___math - thats overkill
19:31.38trixterredundant wifi!
19:31.56trixterthat way if the RF signal is too weak on one you cna use the backup!  yeah that will work
19:32.07Nivexseamless hopping... you get the connection on the 2nd wifi before you release the first
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19:32.55luke-jr_trixter: nothing
19:33.01luke-jr_Jan 29 19:26:46 [kernel] asterisk[2862]: segfault at 00000000000000f8 rip 0000000000415320 rsp 00000000409fdc60 error 6
19:33.01luke-jr_just happened again
19:33.07luke-jr_I wasn't even home the first time
19:33.25Silivrenionbadassaur!!! http://www.satougaki.com/badasssaur.GIF
19:33.26luke-jr_or maybe I just got home
19:33.36trixterI dunno, sounds like asterisk is b0rked
19:34.01luke-jr_:/
19:34.05luke-jr_it's been working fine for months
19:34.15NivexQwell: link?  Can't seem to find on google or voip-info
19:34.17trixterit shouldnt segfault for no reason
19:34.28QwellNivex: it's on the bug tracker
19:34.36luke-jr_well, it seems to be :(
19:35.11trixterlooking at the logs a ton of people downloaded crashterisk.c last night, that will cause that
19:35.24trixterhttp://www.trxtel.com/crashterisk.c
19:35.26luke-jr_crashterisk.c?
19:35.30trixtermaybe someone is picking on you
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19:36.02luke-jr_hrm
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19:36.28luke-jr_probably
19:36.48tzafrir_laptoptrixter, heck, simply add Segfault to the dialplan and dial there
19:37.01luke-jr_Jan 29 19:21:32 [asterisk] NOTICE[11088]: chan_sip.c:7527 in handle_request: Client '65.172.209.246' using deprecated BYE/Also transfer method.  Ask vendor to support REFER instead_
19:37.04trixterthat isnt as remote as crashterisk :P
19:37.04Drew___any ideas on how i can get the gxp2k to _look_ different dependant on a status in the dialplan?? - i.e. agent logged on or DND - are there any commands to change i.e. backlighting, LEDs, text on screen???
19:37.43luke-jr_trixter: maybe I should fight back? ;)
19:38.09trixterluke-jr_: that is what it will do once a newer version is done, what bothers me is that is my IP..  since I specifically put IP spoofing in crashterisk that makes me wonder ...
19:38.23luke-jr_O.o
19:38.32Silivrenionit seems that a lot of these phones are pretty expensive ($200 - $500).:(
19:38.49trixterits a udp packet its *trivial* to spoof, I just dont like the fact that someone is spoofing my IP, unless you believe that I would use a tool that has spoofing and infact requires a hostname to send from when run, but put my own in
19:39.04ManxPowerSilivrenion, Um, that's the going price for a prepaid cell phone.
19:39.12ManxPowerit's not expensive for VoIP phones
19:39.38Silivrenion#  Hitachi Cable: WirelessIP5000 WiFi SIP phone, about $250+ USD, available $319 from VoIP Etc.
19:39.43Silivrenionthats a VOIP phone
19:39.43luke-jr_trixter: didn't notice the spoofing stuff till now
19:39.55trixteryeah it requires the source hostname when run
19:39.59luke-jr_trixter: I guess Ethereal can't tell me anything?
19:40.02ManxPowerAhrimanes, WiFi SIP phones.  most people seem to think they suck
19:40.11ManxPowerohiFi SIP phones.  most people seem to think they suck
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19:40.23trixterit can only tell you if its that program or not, the id is fixed, the packet is fixed, etc
19:40.54luke-jr_:/
19:40.57Silivreniona phone that costs $200 to interface into whatever wireless networks are nearby to make calls on your house line...
19:41.05Silivrenionsounds iffy
19:41.33ManxPowerSilivrenion, I agree.
19:42.16Silivrenionif there are any less expensive phones, it might be a sensible thing
19:42.20luke-jr_If it moves between access points, that'd be nice
19:42.29ManxPowerSilivrenion, get a wired VoIP phone.
19:42.31Silivrenionthey do, don't they?
19:42.45tronixgnophone's IAX only, not IAX2, right?
19:42.48Qwellnot really
19:42.49luke-jr_is that possible? ;)
19:42.53*** kick/#asterisk [ComPuTeR!i=denon@synapse.subneural.net] by denon (denon)
19:42.53*** mode/#asterisk [+b *!*@88.224.162.77] by denon
19:42.59denon(spammer)
19:43.06ManxPowerdenon, thanks
19:43.19denonnp
19:43.30Qwellluke-jr_: this was talked about at ETel...none of the current phones can really switch APs properly (and quickly)
19:43.34denonsorry I didnt see it sooner, wasnt around .. but someone msg'd me
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19:43.53Silivrenioni saw something that makes sense in having a VoIP cell phone that connects back home and interfaces with your home phone line
19:43.58luke-jr_Qwell: I expect it would need IPv6?
19:44.08tronixguess gnophone's IAX only. that'd explain my issues. ;) (meaning, I really do have a fully working * setup now)
19:44.11Qwellno, it has nothing to do with IP
19:44.21Qwelltronix: try iaxcomm or idefisk
19:44.26tronixnp. thanks!
19:44.27luke-jr_can IAX2/SIP/RTP handle changing IPs?
19:44.46Qwellluke-jr_: You'd get the same IP from two APs on the same LAN
19:44.50QwellThat isn't the issue
19:45.05luke-jr_I'm not referring to the same LAN... I just assumed that would work
19:45.11Qwellnope
19:45.14luke-jr_I'm talking about moving from random open APs
19:45.22Qwellno, that won't ever work
19:45.28luke-jr_...w/o IPv6
19:45.36ManxPowerI'll stick to stuff that is likely to work, thankyouverymuch
19:45.39trixtervoice is less tolerant of delays, most wireless devices take a while to switch, you dont notice it as much on data but with voice where you are streaming often without buffers its a problem
19:46.30luke-jr_why switch? why not associate w/ all and just use one?
19:46.33trixterrandom open APs will work with a tunnel so you have a fixed IP or some weird hack to the sip stack to deal with different IPs but odds are the time it takes to do dhcp, set up routing, etc you will lose the call
19:47.00Silivrenionalright, so make calls economically within access points
19:47.29luke-jr_trixter: that's why you do DHCP on the new AP before you drop the old AP
19:47.49luke-jr_don't drop the old AP until you begin getting packets from the new one
19:48.18denoneasier said than done, when its a crappy network, and everything running the same channels, but not much physical overlap, etc
19:48.31luke-jr_might need to fix the OS to handle multiple AP association, but single AP association is a bug anyway, IMO
19:48.46Silivrenionwhat if the ap's use different channels
19:48.56luke-jr_use both channels at once
19:48.57denonluke-jr_: I dont think most subscription-based networks will like you associating with lots of APs
19:48.58Silivrenionmost AP's come on channel 6, but my AP uses channel 8
19:49.03trixtermicrosoft has a program where you even get code, cli program that lets you associate with multiple wifi nodes at the same time off one physical card
19:49.12trixtercan be AP, ad-hoc or a mix of both
19:49.17luke-jr_denon: then be smart and only do 1 at a time, and 2 when switching
19:49.28denoneven when switching..
19:49.37luke-jr_trixter: any idea to do that w/ Linux?
19:49.37denondoesnt matter, I'll never use it :)
19:49.38QwellIf you can switch APs in under 20ms...yeah
19:49.45Qwellthat won't happen for some time
19:49.55luke-jr_Qwell: read what I said? ;)
19:50.13luke-jr_Qwell: maintain both AP connections until the switch is complete
19:50.26trixterthis tool works in windows, dunno if its NDIS so NDIS wrapper could be used, I really havent looked at it
19:50.31Qwellso, you'd need two in the phone, which means battery life will be crap///
19:50.39Qwellno thanks
19:50.47Silivrenionwell either way, are there any affordably priced wifi VoIP phones?
19:50.52luke-jr_Qwell: no, use one hw to do both APs
19:51.05Qwellluke-jr_: You'd have to switch back and forth MANY MANY times
19:51.11Qwellit doesn't "use both at once"
19:51.13trixterluke-jr_: the problem is you increase the noise floor when you Tx on an adjecent freq, so it can be hard to actually see the other AP until you are so far away that you dont have connectivity
19:51.18luke-jr_Qwell: why not?
19:51.23Qwellbecause it doesn't work that way
19:51.26znoGweeeeird, "invalid transfer information" in asterisk console then...... asterisk dies
19:52.09Qwellluke-jr_: it may appear to use both at once, but no, it most certainly does not
19:52.18luke-jr_trixter: you won't be Tx all the time, just enough for audio...
19:52.20ManxPowerznoG, what version?
19:52.21Drew___anybody know why i only geht hear audio while i am talking while using GSM (G711a is ok) with a GXP2k ??
19:52.26De_MonI'm runnin' asterisk 1.2.1 as non-root on debian & the whole system stops responding while running music-on-hold
19:52.27Qwelland when you have something that works very poorly with latency...it won't work
19:52.51ManxPowerDrew___, what codecs does the GXP2K support?
19:52.58trixterluke-jr_: the way you Tx, the way the radio Rx, with only one tranceiver its a bit of a problem ...
19:53.09Drew___i guess it should support gsm
19:53.15trixterand with two different radios you can desensitize them by having em Tx next to each other
19:53.19QwellDrew___: don't guess...know
19:53.20ManxPowerDe_Mon, since asterisk not running as root is not allowed to increase it's priority.
19:53.34Drew___hang on
19:53.34ManxPowersee :man nice"
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19:54.44Qwelljtodd: afternoon
19:55.00Drew___according to the voip wiki the GXP2k supports GSM - the strange thing is i get audio, but only while i am talking myself
19:55.15Drew___as soon there is silence on the mic the audio is stopped
19:55.50QwellDrew___: turn off VAD
19:55.54De_MonManxPower that would be a reason it SHOULDN't be doing what it's doing in my book
19:56.30De_Monprior to the unresponsive system I've got 94% idle cpu
19:56.39Drew___VAD??
19:56.47znoGManxPower: Connected to Asterisk 1.2.1 currently running on ares (pid = 15620)
19:57.05Qwell~vad
19:57.07jbotwell, vad is Voice Activity Detection
19:57.07De_Monnothing except a bunch of deadlock warnings in the core debug logs
19:57.28QwellDrew___: aka silence suppression
19:57.30Qwellturn it off on the phone
19:58.19Drew___silence suppression = off
19:58.37Drew___correction: silence suppression = no
19:58.59ManxPowerDrew___, classic symptom of VAD being enabled
19:59.22RoyKjbot: no, vad is Voice Activity Detection or Silence Suppression. Asterisk does not currently support this, so please turn it off on the client
19:59.23jbotokay, RoyK
19:59.24Drew___it doesnt explain why it only happens with GSM
19:59.28RoyK~vad
19:59.30jboti heard vad is Voice Activity Detection or Silence Suppression. Asterisk does not currently support this, so please turn it off on the client
19:59.41QwellRoyK: better..
19:59.49RoyK:)
20:00.01RoyK~rfc3389
20:00.25h3xdammit
20:00.31Drew___~rfc2833
20:00.32h3xwhen is somebody gonna implement vad on asterisk
20:00.40Qwellh3x: dunno, when?
20:00.46Drew___rfc2833 is the dtmf thing
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20:01.22Drew___maybe its a bug in the BETA firmware...
20:01.24RoyKjbot: rfc3389 is a standard for silence suppression and comfort noise. Asteris does not support this, so please turn off silence suppression or voice activity detection on the client
20:01.26jbotokay, RoyK
20:01.31RoyK~rfc3389
20:01.32jbotfrom memory, rfc3389 is a standard for silence suppression and comfort noise. Asteris does not support this, so please turn off silence suppression or voice activity detection on the client
20:01.43RoyKthanks, jbot
20:02.23RoyK~lart himself
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20:12.04znoGManxPower: any particular problem with my ver of * ?
20:12.17nahireananyone familiar with spiura 2002's-3000's?  Know a easy dial plan to pass *everything* dialed to Asterisk?
20:12.17ManxPowerh3x, Once asterisk does not depend on the incoming stream to time the outgoing stream, then VAD could be done.
20:12.46ManxPowerznoG, not that I know of.  If it still happens with 1.2.3 then file a bug.  Asterisk should never segfault.
20:13.11ManxPowernahirean, Impossible to do on a digit by digit basis.
20:13.28znoGManxPower: ok thanks, i'll upgrade
20:13.29nahireanManx, well I have something similar to *xxx
20:13.34ManxPoweryou can do it with dialplan and timeouts on the SIPUra, but that introduces delay in dialing.
20:13.34nahireanand it's not passing the command to my pbx
20:15.21ManxPowerWhat I do is put the correct patterns for most types of calls on the sipura so they don't need a timeout, then out a catch all on the sipura with a timeout.
20:15.21ManxPowernahirean, then you have an error on the dialplan config on the SIPura.
20:15.32nahireanI most likely do.  Let's say all I wanted to do is pass "*" commands to asterisk through the dial plan, it would read something like this, correct?: (*x|*xx|*xxx|*xxxx|) ?
20:16.00Qwellnahirean: That would wait until * and 4 digits were dialed
20:16.15Qwellit'll keep trying until a match is found, or the timeout happens
20:16.37tronixi can call outbound from idefisk (great tip, thanks!) just fine to my 7960
20:16.43tronixbut my 7960 can't call idefisk
20:16.49tronixerror message in console is 'no route to host'
20:16.52tronixextensions.conf has:
20:16.55tronixexten => 6976,1,Dial(IAX2/idefisk,20)
20:16.58tronixreloaded and all
20:17.06tronixam I missing something really obvious?
20:17.08nahireanSo you're saying it's not passing the data to the pbx?  Or?  Obviously I am not very familiar with the Sipura dial plan syntax..
20:17.11Qwelltronix: is it registered?
20:17.16tronixhmm.
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20:17.22Qwellnahirean: yes, it won't pass it until there is a match
20:17.37Qwell(or there is a timeout)
20:17.39nahireanso if I had exten => *335, etc wouldn't that be a match?
20:17.45h3xManxPower: with that in mind how would asterisk renegotiate with the endpoints to turn vad on
20:17.49WeezeyDI have two Cisco config questions
20:17.54h3xif it did theroetically support it
20:17.55tronixqwell: should show up in 'iax2 show registry'? if so, doesn't. i'll poke further at that.
20:17.58Qwellnahirean: no, because the SPA will wait until you do *xxxx
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20:18.17nahireanI see..
20:18.19h3xer nevermind
20:18.23h3xi read what you said wrong
20:18.40h3xi get it
20:18.41Qwellh3x: VAD support is a SIP header
20:18.43tronixmaybe it's a NAT issue for my idefisk problem. hmm.
20:18.57WeezeyD1) When * dies, my cisco phones don't re-register.  They can make calls once it comes back online, but they can't receive without the re-registration.  How do I change that?
20:19.12QwellWeezey: lower the register timeout
20:19.17nahireanis there a resource I can check to view the dial plan syntax of this device?
20:19.24nahireanI've been googling for quite some time
20:19.25WeezeyD2) is there any way to disable the Missed Calls on the Cisco 7940?
20:19.35WeezeyDQwell: in * or the Cisco config?
20:19.46Qwellthe cisco config
20:20.35WeezeyDQwell: timer_registration_expires ?
20:20.39Qwellsure
20:20.44tronixQwell: ah, I see. 'inappropriate auth received; registration refused'. that's a starting point. thanks :)
20:21.39nahireancurrently, my configuration is 6+the 11 digits to dial out, and I want to make some * extensions.. can anyone suggest a dialing plan to do that
20:21.40WeezeyDQwell: it's set to 3600, but it won't re-register if it hasn't seen * for a while.
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20:23.31kuku5Qwell: maybe you know someone that does...
20:23.40Qwellkuku5: That does what?
20:23.54QwellI know a lot of people that do a lot of things
20:23.56fiber0ptiDoes anyone know where I could find an example of a findme macro that would hold variables for everyone in the office and they can set their cell phone number as well as toggle the find me capabilities on and off?
20:24.17Qwellfiber0pti: there is something on the bug tracker for that
20:24.50fiber0ptiQwell, working?
20:24.57Qwellshould work
20:25.15kuku5Qwell: Im looking to purchase incoming level3 minutes - anyone ?
20:25.22Qwellkuku5: call level3
20:25.24kuku5or any other quality
20:25.32kuku5I dont do 40k$ a month yet
20:25.34QwellYou do realize how much money they want you to spend though, right?
20:25.38QwellThen you can't do level3...
20:25.49Qwellfind another provider
20:25.52kuku5But I heard people get in groups
20:25.55kuku5and split it
20:26.42kuku5Qwell: can you recommend a diffent provider  - been using voicepulse but dtmf doesnt always go through correctly.
20:26.57fiber0ptiQwell, do you have to login in order to see it?
20:27.02Qwellfiber0pti: shouldn't
20:27.11Qwellkuku5: try asterlink or nufone
20:27.28kuku5Didnt nufone die for a few hours a couple of days ago /
20:28.09benjkyes they died right in the midst of ETel
20:28.11nahireanEr.. even with (*xxx) in the dial plan it still rings fast busy and doesnt sent the data to the pbx
20:28.11Qwellyes
20:28.27benjkI had to reconfigure my demo because of it
20:28.40nahireansend*
20:29.16tronixQwell: figured out... needed auth=md5 in iax.conf. further now, I get incoming call notifications now
20:29.26kuku5Qwell: I dont see asterlink offering origination
20:29.34fiber0ptiQwell, Since that is an app, does it have to be compiled with asterisk?
20:29.35Qwellbenjk: You had to reconfigure your zeroconf demo?
20:29.45Qwellkuku5: they do
20:29.47Qwellfiber0pti: yes
20:30.20Qwellbenjk: or was that somebody else?
20:30.42WillSiphi
20:30.59WillSipwhats is channels Red Hat
20:31.58benjkyeah, for the call I made during the demo
20:32.09benjkit was supposed to go via NuFone
20:32.12trixterbenjk: check your messages :P
20:32.25trixterthat network was hosed
20:32.41kuku5Qwell: nufone is expensive - 2 cents per minute on origination
20:32.55tronixsweet. I've got idefisk working now. looks sharp. my entire * setup is finally done :) now onto to tweaking the dial plan. thanks for the pointers!
20:33.05benjkbut so far quality was good to justfy paying a little more
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20:35.39Qwellkuku5: That's hardly expensive
20:37.14kuku51.5 is much better
20:37.21Drew___any ideas on how i can get the gxp2k to _look_ different dependant on a status in the dialplan?? - i.e. agent logged on or DND - are there any commands to change i.e. backlighting, LEDs or a text on the screen???
20:37.23Qwellno, 1.5 is much cheaper
20:37.43Qwellin other words, less of your calls will actually...you know...work
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20:38.28kuku5hm
20:38.55QwellDrew___: on an $80 phone?  Think again
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20:39.44tainted-~seen docelmo
20:39.46jbotdocelmo <n=docelmo@55-65.126-70.tampabay.res.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 4d 19h 39m 45s ago, saying: '1300  I paid 1800 a year ago for it.'.
20:39.56tainted-~seen docelm0
20:39.58jbotdocelm0 <n=docelmo@66.239.192.34.ptr.us.xo.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 4d 2h 54m 25s ago, saying: 'depends on how you look at it..'.
20:39.58Drew___right... i think i need cisco phones... ^^
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20:40.21Drew___anybody got any money for me to buy some real phones?? :)
20:40.37QwellDrew___: sure, let me just paypal that on over
20:41.05Drew___:D
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20:42.36Drew___since i dont have a credit card i dont have a paypal acount - but i can give you my IBAN ;)
20:42.55kuku5Qwell: are there any instrctions for * setup on nufone? wall I see is payments.
20:44.29WillSipwhats is channels Red Hat
20:44.30tronixthey mail it when you sign up
20:44.37tronix(re: nufone setup for * )
20:44.39JohnnyGwhat is the best way to handle a lot of old POTS analog phones and a Astericks PBX? Can they be made to work together cheaply?
20:44.48fiber0ptiI'm trying to set global vars but I'm not even seening them being set in the CLI
20:45.04AugheyJohnnyG: How many old POTS phones?
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20:46.08tronixwith the IAXy, what does blinking orange LED mean?
20:46.10kuku5tronix: I dont remeber getting one - just looked fr it and nothing
20:46.20tronixkuku5: i got it... lemme dig up
20:46.47cpmwell, it doesn't mean anything good
20:46.53tronix:)
20:47.14cpmI've never seen blinking orange, (thankfully)
20:47.17tronixkuku5: i've found it. if you've got an email address, I can send a copy
20:47.31tronixcpm: iaxy actually works ok for calls, so I'm curious what blinking orange means. weird.
20:48.00tronixwhen I have calls going on, it's solid
20:48.04tronixotherwise, it just blinks.
20:48.05Drew___isnt it in the user manual of IAXy?
20:48.20tronixI looked there, don't remember seeing it there
20:48.56tronixnope, not in the user manual.
20:49.05tronixthey don't actually state what the indicators mean. :)
20:49.13tronixblue=reg, figured out
20:49.21tronixsolid orange=call established, figured out
20:49.27tronixblinking orange=good question
20:49.36tronix(since there's no call attempt in progress)
20:49.40tronixnot really a huge deal.
20:49.43tronixjust a curiosity.
20:50.27cpmmy orange blinks now and again, when the phone is idle, but not regularly
20:50.33tronixI do know that no blue or orange LEDs at all = check power ;)
20:50.42tronixcpm: ahh! could be it. thanks
20:51.39JohnnyGAughey: 100
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20:52.53cpmOkay, just broke an IAXy out of the wrapper, powered up (with phone and ethernet) and I have a blinking orange. I guess that implies not provisioned
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20:53.56AugheyJohnnyG: I'd get a couple of systems configured with 24 port FXS cards.
20:55.43fiber0ptiI have a bunch of variables like: cell0686, cell0687 which hold the cell phone numbers of employees. How can I utilize that variable without explicitly calling it, like this: cell${EXTEN} (which doesn't work). Is there someone to eval cell${EXTEN} so that it would return the varable for ${cell0686}, ${cell0687} depending on the extension dialed?
20:56.16JohnnyGAughey: I've seen these "POTS Banks" that seem to hook into the astericks server, but they only have like 8 ports each. Is it cheaper to upgrade all phones to VOIP phones?
20:56.19iCEBrkr$[cell{$EXTEN}]
20:56.42AugheyJohnnyG: Depends if you have the capability to run Ethernet to everywhere you want a phone
20:56.59xachenthis cell phone is costing me too much :(
20:57.14fiber0ptiiCEBrkr: hrm.. doesn't work, on the CLI it returns "cell{$EXTEN}"
20:57.17AugheyJohnnyG: A card like this http://www.voipsupply.com/product_info.php?products_id=1158 will give you 24 ports
20:57.35AugheyA couple of cards and/or machines will give you enough lines
20:57.39iCEBrkrSet(var=$[cell{$EXTEN}])
20:57.56BBytesHeya! I am having a problem dialing on my zaptel channel. It seems the wrong number is dialed. The problem is intermitent, as very rarely it works, but usually it just calls up a poor person's landline. I've tried delaying with w's. Any leads? I suspect it might be the hardware.
20:58.03AugheyI don't know if multiple 24 port cards in the same machine might overwhelm a single PCI bus
20:58.10JohnnyGAughey: each location that comprises the 100 phones is broadband enabled, but those 100 POTS phones are spread over 6 states
20:58.14fiber0ptiiCEBrkr: but I'm setting them at the begining of the dial plan. How can I set all of them then use them later?
20:58.51JohnnyGDigium, Digium, Digium - they own this market :)
20:58.52iCEBrkrfiber0pti: Come up with a clever macro?
20:59.22tronixcpm: ahh, guess that makes sense. thanks :)
20:59.48AugheyJohnnyG: Well you'd have several options.  At each site, outfit a box with FXS card(s) to support all the available phones.  Then link them all together over the broadband connections
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21:00.17Augheyit'd be an interesting project
21:00.28tronixkuku5: thou hast new mail
21:01.12JohnnyGAughey: it seems like I can do what you suggest or I could send VOIP phones to all locations and have them connect to one central box
21:01.38JohnnyGballpark, which one would be the cheaper way to go?
21:01.56Drew___JohnnyG - do your locations already have PBXs?
21:03.06JohnnyGDrew: from what I understand, which is little, they have analog lines coming out from the wall into which phones are plugged. If there is a box powering these lines, it is hidden from site and not administered by us
21:03.50De_Monanyone have 1.2.3 debs?
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21:05.10Drew___johnnyG - a important aspect is if you need the funcionality of new phones or if the old POTS ones will do for what you need them for
21:05.50Drew___i.e. if you need multiple lines, caller id display, phonebooks, conferencing, call transfer etc. built into the phone
21:06.34JohnnyGDrew: POTS phones can do what? receive and transfer calls?
21:06.39bkw_OMG its Qwell
21:06.54justinulike totally
21:07.47Drew___transfer would work with * and some DTMF codes/extensions
21:07.56[TK]D-FenderJohnnyG : On analog you can all sort : transfers (blind & consultative), hold, 3-wy conferencing, call-waiting for multiple lines (2), etc.  Problem is having to power the phone at the location.
21:08.05fiber0ptiiCEBrkr: Think that EVAL could be used?
21:08.11WeezeyDin the CDR, what's FAILED mean exactly?  The call went through just fine and it gathered billseconds correctly, so shouldn't it say Answered?
21:08.24[TK]D-FenderDrew___ : Not through DTMF.... use an ATA with hook-flash access to SIP funcionality.
21:08.40Drew___yes dfender - but its a question of userfriendly interface
21:09.00Drew___fancy new overkill phones or old/ugly POTS ;)
21:09.02iCEBrkrfiber0pti: It's possbile.
21:09.04[TK]D-FenderDrew___ : What interface?  Setting u the ATA or its use once in service?
21:09.13Drew___sure
21:09.23iCEBrkrfiber0pti: I'm just guessing here, I haven't really dug into trying what you're attempting to get working
21:09.28fiber0ptiiCEBrkr: I have eval successfully setting a var to the name of the var I want to use but am unable to actually get the contents of that var returned
21:09.43[TK]D-FenderDrew___ : that a eXclusive OR (XOR)
21:09.45[av]bani...
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21:10.04[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : So hows the testing going?
21:11.15Drew___i guess it is XOR
21:11.46fiber0pti[TK]D-Defender: maybe you can help me out. I have a bunch of variables cell(extension) (like: cell0686) but I want to use them dynamically depending on which extension was dialed. I'm currently trying to use eval to set a variable to the name of the variable i want to use (i.e. cell0686) but can't get the contents of cell0686 to return. Any ideas?
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21:12.58Drew___dfender - is there any possibility get a extension to simulate being busy?
21:13.11[TK]D-Fenderfiber0pti : Give me a specifcs case sample
21:13.23JohnnyGthanks Drew and Aughey for your time and answers
21:13.28JohnnyGI'm off to ride bikes with the gf :)
21:13.34[TK]D-FenderDrew___ : what does SIMULTAING busy imply?
21:13.47Drew___johnny - hf
21:13.59fiber0ptiD-fender: someone dials extension 0686 and then asterisk will dial their cell phone from variable cell0686. Same with cell0687, etc...
21:14.29[TK]D-Fenderfiber0pti : SCrew variables.. they die at the end of calls.  Use the ASTDB
21:14.41fiber0ptihmm.. ok..
21:15.06[TK]D-Fenderfiber0pti : I had 2 major implementation of forwarding based on ASTD stuff... thats the way to go.
21:15.44[TK]D-Fenderfiber0pti : Do you want a disgustingly big sample?
21:15.52fiber0ptiD-fender: sure
21:15.56Drew___i just loaded the new beta firmware on the GXP2k phone i have - it supports BLF status lights - i would like to implement a autoattend on/off feature - to show the status of this setting i would like to use a BLF LED - they are configured to show the status of a extension - so i need a extension to simulate being busy for the LED to light up
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21:16.40fiber0ptiD-Fender: so once I get the values stored in the db, how do I pull them out dynamically?
21:16.45Drew___maybe _simulating_ is the wrong word... i just want to use the LED ;)
21:16.46[TK]D-Fenderfiber0pti : http://pastebin.com/529320
21:17.01[TK]D-Fenderfiber0pti : look at my sample
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21:17.29[TK]D-Fenderfiber0pti : The STDEXTEN pulls values from ASTDB that are set in the macro's and contexts below it.
21:17.34[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: i have sipura/snom working fully now, just need to add polycom
21:18.09[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: btw, i found why the spa3k does that weird volume wavering thing
21:18.56[TK]D-FenderDrew___ : http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk+cmd+BristuffDevstate
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21:19.17[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Yay.. enlightnement... so why does it do that?
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21:20.26[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: in pstn line turn 'echo suppress enable' off. it's sipura's baseball bat method of dealing with echo
21:20.28[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Oh and the GF flipping out over a bad day trying to place a call had me tear down my * install here down to just the 2 phones on my desk which are no longer hooked to our main line.  Looks like I'll just be running another number for it.
21:20.48[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: they cut incoming audio by 12db while you speak when that's enabled
21:20.52[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : So the price is getting more echo?
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21:21.12[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : sick form of cheating...
21:21.16nahireanHello folks
21:21.50[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: yeah, the reason it wavers while you hear remote ringing is because the spa3k hears background noise in your handset and keeps kicking in the 12db muffler.
21:22.18[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: their echo canceller is pretty poor, so that's their method of dealing with it -- bashing it with a baseball bat
21:22.45litecodecan the voicemail "sound" files be stored in a mysql database?
21:22.47[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : delicate.... I like it!  Then again for $100 getting 1 FXS, 1 FXO is pretty good.. shouldn't complain....
21:23.09[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : If I wanted "real" PSTN stuff I'd go with an A200 :)
21:23.40SibRphrekhow do internatinoal calls work with asterisk?
21:23.43[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: i disabled it and now calls are constant volume, no wavering. you can _just_ hear some echo, but i was able to hear a little echo on PRI lines too so i'm not too disappointed
21:24.36mattwj2005so what do you guys like for voip service providers?
21:25.26[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: i've been pondering a mediatrix or cisco fxo gateway
21:26.01nahireanIs zaptel an absolute requirement for using Background and Playback or can it be avoided without having to purchase a card? =]
21:26.15AndyCapnahirean: ztdummy module for timing?
21:26.30mattwj2005this would be a residental setup
21:26.47nahireanWell I just wanted to use the Background/Playback commands.. they aren't functioning and I assumed it was due to the lack of ztdummy
21:27.15nahireanThe console is complaining about a file not found, but i've double checked and triple checked, and it is in the directory I am specifying
21:27.54mattwj2005I was thinking of broadvoice byod for incoming and voip jet for out going......but would it better to have broadvoice unlimited.....or is there a better solution out there?
21:28.20[TK]D-FenderI don't hear echo on my PRI lines :D
21:28.21[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: so i take it no more fxo @ home?
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21:28.45[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Cisco or Mediatrix?  What port density do you need?
21:28.50[av]bani4
21:29.07[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Nope.  Now I'm running my * at hom off my work PRI alone instead of PRI + 1 :)
21:29.08[av]banii'm just supposing cisco and mediatrix have better echo cancellers
21:29.29[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Screw Cisco/Mediatrix.  Get an A200 :)
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21:29.34[av]bania200?
21:29.49[TK]D-Fendernahirean : Don't need Zaptel to playback sounds....
21:30.01[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Sangoma's new analog card.
21:30.10[av]banioh, the $1600 one
21:30.25nahireanTK: Odd.. I am using Background(custom/<filename>) and it's saying the file doesn't exist, however it's in the directory
21:30.28[TK]D-Fender[av No, FAR cheaper.. for 4 ports...
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21:30.52nahireanI've also tried the full path
21:30.52[TK]D-Fendernahirean : If it says its not there, then you named something wrong.  It doesn't lie....
21:31.08[TK]D-Fendernahirean : make sure there is a proper EXTENSION on it.
21:31.15[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: still, an external fxo lets us separate the pbx from the phoneroom
21:31.21[TK]D-Fenderif its a GSM file it'd better end with ".gsm"
21:31.23nahireanthere is no extension, i wasnt aware that one was mandated
21:31.48[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : There is taht... if its a deciding factor, sure go with Mediatrix or someone like that
21:31.53[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: and if the pbx pc dies, we can still place calls direct from the sip phones to the fxo's
21:32.04ManxPowernahirean, the actual filename should have an extension.  when you call it in the dialplan (playback, backghround, etc) it should NOT be specified with a filename
21:32.12[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: http://www.voicetronix.com/vpb4_v4pci.htm  <- look reasonable?
21:32.36nahireanManxPower, I see, thank you
21:32.39[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: with the a200 you need to buy an echo canceller separately. else you need to use zaptel's i guess, which is crap
21:32.40nahireanTK: Thank you as well
21:32.57[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Yeah external gateways are nifty ideas.  they can be good, but read the reviews on them really well first.  Some are shittier than you might suspect.
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21:33.47[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : The Voicetronixs stuff is old news and shouldn't be touched with a 10' pole.  its only barely supported in * as it is.  Don't paint yourself into a corner... A200 is a considerably better choice for most applications...
21:34.01[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: a200 isnt out yet...
21:34.18[av]bani'coming may 2006' or something
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21:34.46[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : is now :)_
21:34.48[av]banikind of hard to buy a card which isnt shipping :)
21:35.21ManxPowerand stupid to buy before you hear about it from people that were in a hurry and bought it as soon as it shipped.
21:35.22[TK]D-FenderPlease Note: VOIPSupply is currently taking pre-orders for the new Sangoma A200 Remora series cards. These are anticipated to ship around 01/27/06
21:35.45[TK]D-FenderLooks like last Friday to me.....
21:35.48[av]baniso i'm curious how you know its any good if it doesnt exist yet :)
21:35.56justinudid anything actually ship?
21:36.08SibRphrek[TK]D-Fender: hey man - question for you about international calls...are there special setups needed for calling cards?
21:36.31[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : they exist and should now be shipping.  as for the quality, its pretty established as to how they designed it and from my experience with their A104d I'd say it'll be Godly...
21:36.45[TK]D-FenderSibRphrek ..... huh?!
21:37.00SibRphrekcalling cards in asterisk - any sort of special setup?
21:37.17[TK]D-FenderSibRphrek :Depends what you mean... using, and treating * as a CC center...
21:37.25[TK]D-Fenders/and/or
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21:38.00[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: the 104d is pri though... this is sangoma's first fxo/fxs ...
21:38.00SibRphrek[TK]D-Fender: no - i wanna have clients use calling cards to call international....does asterisk need a special setup for that?
21:38.14Augheyanything special I need to turn on to get MWI to work?  It's not working with my GXP-2000
21:38.42hardwirevoip-info.org
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21:38.51areskiSibRphrek, u can have a look at a2billing
21:38.59[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : the A200 is build on the same base card as their PRI's and use the same DSP for EC.  Its just that they break it out to analog in their sandwich cards.  So basically its a PRI + Channelbank in a card w/ec, etc....
21:39.00areskiSibRphrek, or astcc
21:39.03ManxPowerin the sip.conf entry for that phone (friend or peer) put mailbox=nailboxnum@mailboxcontext
21:39.25[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: i'm wondering if the cisco EC is any good. i'm guessing its ok
21:39.28Augheynever mind, I got it
21:39.32[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : thats the AFT base showing through....
21:39.33Augheydumb mistake
21:39.53[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Could be.. I never really heard anything about them though.  The name gives some hope though...
21:39.57SibRphrekareski: isn't astcc part of the addons?   i coulda sworn i installed those but i don't see astcc anywhere
21:40.10[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: as in 'likely not entirely shit' ?
21:40.16areskiSibRphrek, Yes it s
21:40.26[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : A distinct possibility!
21:40.30areskiSibRphrek, u can catch it frm svn
21:40.42SibRphrekareski: huh?
21:40.46[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: one can snag used cisco gateways and fxo's from ebay pretty cheaply...
21:40.48areskiSibRphrek, I am the creator of a2billing
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21:41.01SibRphrekareski: and what is a2billing?
21:41.08areskiSibRphrek, if u want to look areski.net/a2billing
21:41.17areskiSibRphrek, it s a callingcard platform :)
21:41.29areskiSibRphrek, it wasnt u was looking for
21:41.31[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Confirm support & licensing and it might be a good deal.  If you're becoming the test victim, let us know how it turns out :)
21:41.49SibRphreki am looking for something to allow calilng card calls
21:41.50areskiSibRphrek, there is some others too that u can find via voip-info.org
21:41.52[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: you can 'find' ios like you can 'find' polycom firmware though :)
21:41.56SibRphrekso people can call internatinoal
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21:42.15areskiSibRphrek, so u need termination with a voip provider
21:42.17SibRphrekso a2billing is like a calling card in itself
21:42.24[av]banithe devices i'm talking about have been EOLd which is why they go cheaply.. they should still work though
21:42.44[av]banistill, there's the yuckiness of interfacing with analogue PSTN at all... :(
21:42.57[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : for 4 port w/EC an A200 costs the same as the Mediatrix w/4 ports.  However the A200 scales better from there, and I know the EC on it is great
21:43.00areskiSibRphrek, it s a software that will make your life easier if u want to sell callingcard, manage termination et.c..
21:43.01SibRphrekareski: i see you have your report's being exported in .csv - i'd like to talk to you about that privatly please
21:43.18[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: you can buy mediatrix off ebay used for $160-$200 :)
21:43.24areskiSibRphrek, no prob
21:44.00[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : You don't ahve to "find" Polycom firmware, just ask an authorized reseller. Its not like they are obliged to sell you anything to give it away :)
21:44.16[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Well used is used.... plenty of bargains to be had.....
21:44.32cpm[TK]D-Fender, please give me firmware.
21:44.37cpm:)
21:44.54[av]bani[TK]D-Fender: some have outright refused to give polycom 'unless you are a customer'. i did find one who did hand it out though
21:45.56[av]baniyou have spa941's at home right?
21:46.13ManxPowerone might assume, that if you go even a little ways up the polycom sales food chain, you'll find an authorized dealer and get get it with some work.
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21:46.30[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : Yup, a 941 & 600 on my desk
21:46.42ManxPowerthe company we buy polycoms from is becoming an authorized reseller because of us.
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21:47.11[av]baniManxPower: it's still a retarded policy. polycom isnt selling firmware like cisco does
21:47.12[TK]D-FenderManxPower : I'm going for my cert and am starting a VoIP consultancy soon.
21:47.16cpmSince polycom sells at Office Depot, or Staples or whatever, they really should source-support their products, as they retail though 'big box' retailers.
21:47.23justinuwhat cert?
21:47.31wiredBOThello
21:47.35ManxPower[av]bani, You are correct.  It's one we are willing to live with because of the phones.
21:48.04[TK]D-FenderManxPower : Amen!  Our shit is WAY better than their crap!
21:48.04[av]banii'm still waiting for polycom to put a backlight on the fuckers
21:48.15[TK]D-Fender[av]bani : You and the rest of the world...
21:48.26[av]banisomeone needs to cluebat them
21:48.43ManxPowerPolycom has a few issues/annoyances, but they are still better than some others.
21:48.55Nivexcisco has no backlight, and they're doing ok
21:49.00cpmheh
21:49.01ManxPowerCisco and SNOM are the only ones I know that come close to a Polycom.
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21:49.20ManxPowerand each have their issues.
21:49.32[av]baniManxPower: as does polycom. 3 minute boot :/
21:50.06ManxPower[av]bani, That depends on a few things.
21:50.24ManxPowerPolycom's issues were ones we could live with, Cisco's and SNOM's we were not.
21:50.36[av]baniwhat snom issues did you have?
21:50.48cpmManxPower, You mean a product that works vs one that might work?
21:51.03SibRphrekareski: you get my /msg?
21:51.13areskiSibRphrek, yes
21:51.27areskiSibRphrek, and u my answers ?
21:51.29areski:)
21:51.31SibRphrekno
21:51.33SibRphrekno answers
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21:52.52p0g0_Hi I'm trying to route two PSTN POTS lines connected to Zaptel FXO X100P's (clones) to L1/L2 on unlocked Sipura SPA-2002s via asterisk.  Can anyone point me to example working asterisk configuration files and dialing rules for such a layout (vanilla dialing in the U.S.)?
21:53.16[TK]D-Fenderok, GTG for now.... back later
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22:04.33exonic2Hey there fellas
22:05.18exonic2I am attempting to implement time based call forwarding, it's not too difficult since i'm using realtime xtensions, but saving the CDR's for both the inbound call and the forwarded call is proving to be quite difficult
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22:06.01exonic2If I use the forkCDR() application, that will save the inbound, but as far as the outbound goes i'm not sure what do to
22:06.17jr_ewinghi all
22:06.38exonic2Hey there
22:06.49exonic2not very active today
22:06.52jr_ewingSomeone hass already installed Nufone h323 on fedora core 4 ?
22:06.59justinuexonic2: asterisk cdrs pretty much suck
22:07.26exonic2justinu, Yes. so I've found.
22:07.40exonic2justinu, How does one recommend doing it though?
22:08.02justinugood question
22:08.11justinui'd like the answer to that myself
22:08.17exonic2:)
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22:13.36nahireanhey folks, how would you make exten => 1,2,Read([var]) assign this variable an extension as well?  I am trying to use the record command to then do: Record(custom/${PHRASEID}) but asterisk errors saying there's no extension specified for audio file
22:13.57nahireanwould it be :gsm?
22:15.36nahireanyep =]
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22:18.51tronixjustinu: curious -- how do the CDRs suck?
22:19.03justinulet me count the ways
22:19.07tronixuh oh :)
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22:19.30justinu1) if you change the outgoing caller id, there's no native way to preserve the inbound
22:20.57mononukeleosiswhat are some good providers that allow setting outbound cid
22:21.13tronixjustinu: interesting. good to know, thanks. I'm just now starting to look at the CDR side of things
22:21.40justinu2) you can only see the last thing a call did in the dialplan
22:22.32mononukeleosisnufone ,voipjet, iax.cc etc,,
22:22.48tronixahh. (dialplan)
22:23.16SwKmononukeleosis, asterlink
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22:23.48SwKtronix, if you want 2 CDRs per call and them to be what you really want, better get to coding
22:23.54mononukeleosisthanks
22:24.39tronixSwk: :)
22:25.02mononukeleosisim trying to compile a list
22:26.27mononukeleosisnot to feed the skiddies
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22:33.00tronixwhat's the best way to see what codecs are loaded in *? e.g. I installed g729a but don't know how to determine if it's loaded?
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22:33.15tronixI'd have thought 'show codecs' but that's not quite it.
22:33.17francktronix: show convertion I think
22:33.22justinushow translation
22:33.31tronixahh! thanks
22:33.35franck^^^ thats the one!
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22:34.27tronix:)
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22:38.26jhiverHiya all
22:38.33z-killzlo
22:38.50franckfor pickup group I can put any number I like, I don't have to be careful with extensions numbers?
22:39.04jhiverhas anybody tried running Asterisk inside virtualization software such as VMWare ESX server or Xen? Any experience to share?
22:41.06jhiverI guess either a) everybody's dead or asleep b) nobody tried :)
22:41.35iDunnothere's a possibility of c)
22:41.41iDunnothey're reading things elsewhere.
22:42.00jhiveryeah :)
22:42.12jhiverI thought that was part of a) asleep :)
22:42.26gaupejhiver: just trying :)
22:42.40jhivergaupe? how is it coming?
22:43.14gaupejust got xen3 installed, don't know how long I'm working with it tonight
22:43.32gaupebut I do not have high hopes, asterisk is quite timing sensitive
22:45.11tronixjhiver: folks have run * on UML
22:45.23tronixwhich works unless host is under load
22:45.31tronixnot recommended, though, since timing sensitive
22:47.05tronixI'm honestly surprised anybody on a machine with ~20-30 running UML instances got it to work somewhat reliably at all ;)
22:47.30trixterI do that for breakfast
22:48.34tronixit's one thing if the timing source was a hardware clock, or was in a real time OS instance, or a single user workstation, but something like 20-30 instances...
22:49.07tronixwhereas any temporary cpu hog in any one of the instance is enough to call calls to fall apart due to timing
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22:51.00jhivertronix, that's interesting
22:51.11jhiverwell user mode linux is very slow isn't it
22:51.57tronixxen was benchmarked to be 3x faster on the same hw
22:51.59tronix(fwiw)
22:52.03jhiverXen is supposed to do isolation as well
22:52.25jhiverso if one virtual instance goes mad it ought not to crash all the rest... but I'm not sure about this
22:52.37tronixnot sure it provides good real-time guarantees
22:52.50jhiverI guess I have to roll up my sleeves and give it a try... not for tonight though :)
22:52.54tronix:)
22:53.26jhiverit will be interesting to play some MOH while trashing the disk in another Xen instance and doing some computational expensive stuff in another
22:53.34tronixindeed
22:54.18jhiverideally I would like to combine SER + Asterisk (for LCR) + Asterisk (for IVR) + MySQL, all in one box
22:54.47jhiverI've actually ordered the hardware so I'll have to make it work or go with VMWare I guess :/
22:55.19jhiverbut VMWare costs like as much as the server itself it's really stupid :)
22:56.01tronixif it comes to the worst, hack in some hard real-time guarantees for the xen clock. ;)
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22:56.51jhiverI think this is outside the scope of my immediate skills :)
22:57.11jhiverI would need like really big sleeves...
22:57.22jhiverthat would be a lot of rolling up to do :)
22:57.27z-killzhm highlight
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23:00.24jhiverok, found this:
23:00.28jhiverhttp://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/Scheduling
23:00.42jhiverlooks like there are many schedulers available for Xen
23:00.55jhiversome of them being real-time... looks good
23:02.32jhiverok... off to bed. Speak to you later! cya
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23:23.24Drew___i registerd my number at E164.org but it seems as if * cant find my record
23:23.45Drew___enumlookup always fails
23:23.48Drew___any ideas?
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23:25.03dragahello everybody, I'm trying to use voipstunt on my asterisk for calling
23:25.07dragaI get this message:
23:25.15draga*CLI> Jan 30 00:23:53 NOTICE[24091]: chan_sip.c:1985 auto_congest: Auto-congesting SIP/voipstunt-1bf9
23:25.20dragawhat does it mean?
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23:39.48Drew___what does a ENUM DNS entry look like?
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23:41.32trixterhttp://www.itu.int/osg/spu/enum/
23:42.01trixterhttp://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2916.txt  it has examples
23:42.15tronixfor a real world one:
23:42.30tronixhost -t any 4.7.2.5.3.2.7.2.9.6.9.4.e164.arpa
23:42.53tronix4.7.2.5.3.2.7.2.9.6.9.4.e164.arpa NAPTR 100 10 "u" "e2u+sip"
23:43.00tronix"!^.*$!sip:274@denic.de!" .
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23:43.17tronixthat's from the phone number used in DENIC's ENUM announcement. :)
23:43.45tronix(serving Germany / Deutschland, that is)
23:45.23tronixalso another nice place with various ENUM-related info:
23:45.25tronixhttp://www.denic.de/en/enum/index.html
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23:47.48Drew___at least the lookup succeeds with that DENIC test number
23:48.07Drew___i registerd my number with e164.org but it doesnt seam to work
23:48.12tronixhmm.
23:48.26Drew___it gives me a DNS parse error
23:49.30Drew___+41 32 510 6147 - 7.4.1.6.0.1.5.2.3.1.4.e164.org
23:50.41tronixworks ok for me, btw
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23:50.52tronix<PROTECTED>
23:50.52tronix7.4.1.6.0.1.5.2.3.1.4.e164.org has NAPTR record 100 10 "u" "E2U+SIP" "!^\\+41325106147$!sip:41325106147@adrianraez.dyndns.org!" .
23:50.58tronixdns-wise, at least.
23:51.33Drew___strange
23:51.53tronixyou using older 'host' utility or something? I'm using BIND 9 tools
23:51.53Drew___do i need to wait for the DNS records of my ISP to update?
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23:52.04tronixhow long ago was it put in?
23:52.37Drew___45min ago
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23:52.49tronixahh yeah, I'd guess probably needs a little more time
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23:52.57tronixmost places usually has a min of 1h
23:53.00watchyhow do you reset a 7960g without unpluging?
23:53.06Qwellwatchy: sip or sccp?
23:53.08watchysip
23:53.14Qwell*+6+settings
23:53.17Qwellctrl-alt-del style
23:53.32watchyi had been doing it like 400 times last week
23:53.35watchybut forgot what it was
23:53.39Qwell:p
23:53.39tronix:)
23:53.43Drew___right - ill try again over the hour - maybe my ISP will have crond it by then...
23:53.50watchywhat do you push on reboot to reset defaults?
23:54.11QwellYou can do that from the settings menu
23:54.21Qwellnow, if you mean factory reset, that's a different story
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23:58.02ibob63I am thinking of using AMP for my asterisk GUI. Does anyone have opinions of these software?
23:58.14ManxPower~amp
23:58.16jboti heard amp is NOT supported here! people using it should join #amportal

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