04:54.09 | *** join/#asterisk jbot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
04:54.09 | *** topic/#asterisk is Asterisk 1.2.0 Beta1 - http://www.asterisk.org || Astricon 2005 was a great success! Thanks to everyone who made it happen, as well as to everyone who made it out! |
04:54.16 | X-Rob | ~pb |
04:54.18 | jbot | pastebin is, like, a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
04:54.21 | X-Rob | good jbot! |
04:54.52 | ManxPower | ~manxpower |
04:54.54 | jbot | from memory, manxpower is someone you should hire for a job in BelgiumNetherlands, or someone you should send lots of money to because he helps so many people. |
04:54.59 | Insanity5 | umm what does restart now do on th asterisk serveR? |
04:55.04 | Insanity5 | restart the server or box? |
04:55.13 | kshumard_home | restarts asterisk |
04:55.14 | kshumard_home | (not the box) |
04:55.15 | Qwell[] | Insanity5: asterisk |
04:55.20 | Insanity5 | disconnected me from the box |
04:55.21 | kshumard_home | doesn't wait for calls to end or anything |
04:55.22 | Insanity5 | wtf |
04:55.27 | Insanity5 | can't getb ack in |
04:55.32 | Qwell[] | Insanity5: asterisk -r |
04:55.40 | Insanity5 | no, it went: |
04:55.44 | ManxPower | Insanity5, restart now stops and then starts Asterisk |
04:55.47 | Insanity5 | Disconnected from Asterisk server |
04:55.47 | Insanity5 | PC:/etc/asterisk # |
04:55.47 | websae | qwell: have you used AstBILL? |
04:55.49 | Insanity5 | and now it's frozen |
04:55.53 | Qwell[] | websae: no |
04:55.57 | *** join/#asterisk Lathos42 (n=Lathos42@adsl-68-255-76-52.dsl.lgtpmi.ameritech.net) |
04:56.02 | Insanity5 | can ping it |
04:56.13 | Igbothom_III | http://pastebin.ca/25653 |
04:56.29 | Igbothom_III | Oct 16 14:52:45 NOTICE[3456]: chan_sip.c:7355 handle_request: Failed to authenticate user Some Git <sip:88883805@sip03.astrasip.com.au>;tag=3798092828 |
04:56.52 | *** join/#asterisk copantl (n=copantl@205.240.200.126) |
04:56.54 | X-Rob | Igbothom_III - astrasip are, bluntly, cunts. |
04:57.00 | X-Rob | use faktortel. |
04:57.02 | Igbothom_III | really? |
04:57.07 | X-Rob | really. |
04:57.07 | copantl | help? |
04:57.07 | Igbothom_III | cool - I'll look elsewhere :) |
04:57.18 | Insanity5 | can anyone get a login prompt by sshing to cainkar.com? |
04:57.32 | Insanity5 | i think I murderedi t! |
04:57.38 | X-Rob | faktortel is about the same price, and they have really good support. |
04:57.40 | Igbothom_III | only got an account there as they had an easy to get into website and I could sign up with $20 of pre-paid |
04:57.46 | X-Rob | Insanity5 - looks like the box has broken. |
04:57.48 | Igbothom_III | have NO issues moving elsewhere |
04:57.53 | *** join/#asterisk abcbooze (i=abcbooze@70.153.193.166) |
04:58.00 | copantl | i have a te110p card in my asterisk and i unable to place call |
04:58.11 | abcbooze | is there somethign wrong with cvs.digium.org ? |
04:58.18 | X-Rob | Igbothom_III - faktortel is good. Pennytel is a bit cheaper, but their website is useless unless you're using IE on Windows. |
04:58.18 | Igbothom_III | in the mean time, if we can fix this now, it will also be "fixed" when I move (to Faktortel or whomever) |
04:58.25 | Insanity5 | well crap |
04:58.26 | copantl | but i able to receive calls |
04:58.28 | Insanity5 | I can still make calls out! |
04:58.28 | Igbothom_III | I use IE on Windows :) |
04:58.29 | Qwell[] | abcbooze: That domain isn't right |
04:58.32 | Qwell[] | .com |
04:58.37 | Igbothom_III | and yes, not much diff between the two |
04:58.38 | abcbooze | erm |
04:58.41 | abcbooze | my typo |
04:58.42 | abcbooze | but yeah |
04:58.44 | Insanity5 | no I can't :( |
04:58.47 | abcbooze | Cannot connect to cvs.digium.com: Connection refused |
04:58.47 | abcbooze | Will retry at 01:01:33 |
04:58.51 | X-Rob | Igbothom_III - I can quite happily help you with faktortel, or, even better, THEY can support you with asterisk problems |
04:59.02 | X-Rob | faktortel quite happily support asterisk as a client. |
04:59.04 | Igbothom_III | 'cept faktor has untimed .au calls |
04:59.06 | Insanity5 | well yes I can, bizarre. |
04:59.12 | kshumard_home | I just pulled cvs from digium.com 10 seconds ago.... |
04:59.34 | ManxPower | Digium CVs is (or was) on roundrobin DNS |
04:59.38 | copantl | anyone from digium? |
04:59.48 | Insanity5 | Igbothom_III - well get this, I did restart now, it dropped me to a prompt, I ssh box to the box, but I can make a call through it's asteirsk server. |
04:59.55 | kshumard_home | copantl, I'm from Digium. : ) |
04:59.59 | Insanity5 | can't ssh that is :) |
05:00.03 | copantl | hello |
05:00.10 | X-Rob | Insanity5 - there's something wrong with your sshd |
05:00.13 | abcbooze | can someone dns cvs.digium.com for me |
05:00.16 | abcbooze | maybe my dns is slack |
05:00.23 | copantl | i bought a card te110p |
05:00.28 | Insanity5 | X-Rob - well it took out apache too -- postfix answers but just hangs. |
05:00.30 | X-Rob | in fact, there's something wrong with your machine. Even smtpd is broken. |
05:00.38 | X-Rob | it's a kernel issue |
05:00.40 | Igbothom_III | Insanity5; lost me in there somewhere |
05:00.42 | X-Rob | you will need to reboot it. |
05:00.49 | copantl | and i tried to connected to a lucent switch with PRI |
05:01.08 | X-Rob | Igbothom_III - I think he was confused as to whom he was talking 8) |
05:01.23 | Igbothom_III | me too :) |
05:01.32 | Insanity5 | Igbothom_III - Yes, it was odd, I did quit asterisk, it dropped me to a unix prompt, dropped my connection, asterisk keeps running, but all other daemons died. |
05:01.45 | Igbothom_III | so, assuming I'll move from AstraCunts, any clues on my issue? |
05:01.51 | X-Rob | Insanity5 - your machine needs someone to push reset |
05:01.58 | ManxPower | Insanity5, you have some OHER problem |
05:02.12 | copantl | and i unable to receive calls but able to place calls... what can be wrong?? |
05:02.18 | X-Rob | Igbothom_III - your need to have type=friend in your sip config. |
05:02.23 | kshumard_home | copantl, possibly dialplan configuration |
05:02.27 | Igbothom_III | and Faktor tel are QUEENSLANDERS |
05:02.33 | kshumard_home | copantl, what does the console say when you dial into it? |
05:02.34 | copantl | sorry i unable to place calls |
05:02.35 | Igbothom_III | it is in there |
05:02.41 | websae | AstBILL anyone---anyone familiar with it---i got it setup, but to authorize sip connections it's not been so kind, any ideas? |
05:02.45 | Igbothom_III | http://pastebin.ca/25653 |
05:02.49 | copantl | but i can receive calls |
05:03.05 | abcbooze | can someone dns cvs.digium.com for me? |
05:03.10 | copantl | and im using asterisk@home |
05:04.01 | Igbothom_III | X-Rob; I'll call Faktortel tomorrow - I emailed them yesterday anyway :) |
05:04.12 | copantl | when a call is placed i receive a congestion answer |
05:04.36 | copantl | but i can receive calls any time |
05:04.49 | X-Rob | Igbothom_III - you need [88880426] type=friend context=incoming in your sip.conf |
05:05.02 | Igbothom_III | ok - doing it now |
05:05.06 | *** join/#asterisk _Thor (i=Christia@user-vc8fl7l.biz.mindspring.com) |
05:05.11 | kshumard_home | copantl, what does the console say when you try to place a call? |
05:05.20 | copantl | wait |
05:05.22 | Igbothom_III | context=incoming ? |
05:06.14 | copantl | <PROTECTED> |
05:06.15 | copantl | <PROTECTED> |
05:06.15 | copantl | <PROTECTED> |
05:06.15 | copantl | <PROTECTED> |
05:06.15 | copantl | <PROTECTED> |
05:06.23 | X-Rob | or whatever context you want your incoming calls to go to |
05:06.30 | abcbooze | hey |
05:06.34 | abcbooze | can someone type |
05:06.49 | abcbooze | /dns cvs.digium.com |
05:06.52 | abcbooze | and tell me the output |
05:07.19 | X-Rob | abcbooze - learn to use linux dude. |
05:07.23 | morale | cvs.digium.com A216.27.40.102 |
05:07.24 | morale | cvs.digium.com A66.225.202.81 |
05:07.25 | X-Rob | the command is 'host cvs.digium.com' |
05:07.32 | abcbooze | yeah |
05:07.33 | abcbooze | i know |
05:07.37 | abcbooze | but for wahtever reason |
05:07.42 | *** join/#asterisk JerJer (n=JerJer@pdpc/supporter/bronze/jerjer) |
05:07.42 | abcbooze | im getting a bad dns |
05:07.43 | Igbothom_III | X-Rob; same error |
05:07.46 | abcbooze | from my dns servers |
05:07.49 | abcbooze | so thanks |
05:07.52 | abcbooze | morale |
05:08.27 | X-Rob | Igbothom_III - hurm. |
05:08.32 | Igbothom_III | yup :) |
05:08.58 | fiber0pti | how can you dial to extensions at a time? |
05:09.15 | JerJer | mooo |
05:09.23 | jdv79 | baaaaaa |
05:09.35 | jdv79 | JerJer, do you have a cow? |
05:09.49 | copantl | kshumard did you see my post? |
05:10.03 | JerJer | i eat cow |
05:10.05 | kshumard_home | copantl yeah, wasn't too helpful... could I login to the box? PM me... |
05:10.12 | jdv79 | so do i |
05:10.12 | JerJer | lots of it, actually |
05:10.17 | jdv79 | you' |
05:10.21 | ManxPower | JerJer, How was astricon/ |
05:10.25 | jdv79 | ll be hte first to contract mad cow! |
05:10.45 | ManxPower | Cows don't get mad. Cows get even. |
05:11.31 | Insanity5 | hehe |
05:11.52 | JerJer | ManxPower: pretty good - only had to yell at a couple people |
05:12.04 | Insanity5 | y?:) |
05:12.12 | JerJer | cuz i can |
05:12.31 | Juggie | i had fun |
05:12.34 | Juggie | lots of fun drinking :P |
05:12.37 | Insanity5 | your guys? or random people? |
05:12.46 | Juggie | jerjer what was the name of that tool |
05:12.54 | JerJer | a hammer |
05:12.55 | Juggie | for the secondary ip's on network interface |
05:12.58 | Insanity5 | My box froze :( |
05:13.03 | JerJer | wackamole |
05:13.08 | Insanity5 | and its 2k miles away :( |
05:13.09 | Juggie | kk, i have to look @ that |
05:13.20 | Insanity5 | and asterisk did it. |
05:13.34 | JerJer | http://www.backhand.org/wackamole/ |
05:13.38 | fiber0pti | I'm setting up my polycoms to auto answer to immitate a paging system.. is there way to dial a bunch of extensions at once without disconnecting all but the one that answers first. |
05:13.58 | Insanity5 | hehe |
05:14.17 | JerJer | fiber0pti: app_page |
05:14.18 | Juggie | fiber0pti, throw all the calls into a listen only meetme conference |
05:14.21 | Insanity5 | speakers in the hallway? |
05:14.22 | Juggie | or that :P |
05:14.43 | Insanity5 | and a soundcard? |
05:14.57 | JerJer | 500 watt PA system |
05:15.04 | fiber0pti | Juggie: How would you connect a bunch of extensions in a meetme conference while the phone calling can speak? |
05:15.16 | JerJer | fiber0pti: app_page |
05:15.22 | JerJer | its in cvs -head as of like 3 days ago |
05:15.23 | JerJer | use it |
05:15.25 | JerJer | it works |
05:15.27 | JerJer | damn good |
05:15.36 | Juggie | fiber0pti, looks like app_page is just a auto meetme generator but none the less try it out |
05:15.41 | *** part/#asterisk halogen8 (n=halogen8@ip68-8-18-103.sd.sd.cox.net) |
05:15.49 | jdv79 | how is h323 support these days? |
05:15.52 | fiber0pti | how do I determine if app_page is in the version I have? :S |
05:15.58 | JerJer | jdv79: crap |
05:16.09 | Juggie | fiber0pti, i dunno, its in your apps dir |
05:16.13 | Juggie | check your source |
05:16.18 | jdv79 | what if i need it |
05:16.28 | Juggie | find a way not to use h323 |
05:16.30 | Juggie | its crap |
05:16.32 | JerJer | find a way not to need it |
05:16.35 | X-Rob | Juggie - *laugh* |
05:16.35 | jdv79 | supposed a lot of our voip carriers still use it and demand it |
05:16.40 | JerJer | blah |
05:16.42 | ManxPower | jdv79, there are at least FOUR H323 drivers for Asterisk |
05:16.52 | jdv79 | uh, and there's one SIP, right? |
05:16.58 | ManxPower | jdv79, yup |
05:16.59 | JerJer | two of which are barely H.323v2 compliant |
05:17.04 | abcbooze | Juggie? |
05:17.06 | Juggie | i have no expirence with h323 so i cant say anything |
05:17.07 | jdv79 | what's the deal then? |
05:17.11 | abcbooze | from efnet? |
05:17.15 | JerJer | H.323 just plain sucks |
05:17.20 | Juggie | but you can try the one in asterisk-addons |
05:17.23 | Juggie | abcbooze, the one and only |
05:17.25 | jdv79 | oh |
05:17.26 | JerJer | why do you think other signaling methods where created? |
05:17.35 | abcbooze | heheh whats up Juggie |
05:17.42 | jdv79 | just because of polititcs |
05:17.47 | Juggie | just got back from astricon in anaheim |
05:17.50 | Juggie | like 2hrs ago |
05:17.52 | JerJer | if there is any telco out there today that only supports H.323, they do not deserve your business |
05:17.53 | abcbooze | no way! |
05:17.55 | coppice | JerJer: in order to learn nothing from the drawbacks of H.323? :-\ |
05:17.56 | *** join/#asterisk dasuberdavid (n=egg@pcp01534754pcs.huntsv01.al.comcast.net) |
05:17.56 | abcbooze | awesome! |
05:18.07 | abcbooze | i <3 asterisk |
05:18.07 | morale | has much been changed or fixed from 1.0.9 -> 1.2.0-beta1? im thinking it is almost worth a try upgrding |
05:18.19 | JerJer | morale: everything |
05:18.21 | Juggie | h323 is an example of what happens when engineers with no programming expirence design a protol |
05:18.24 | Juggie | *protocol |
05:18.29 | abcbooze | i have cisco 12SP+ ip phones running off asterisk right now |
05:18.33 | abcbooze | erm |
05:18.36 | JerJer | morale: read upgrade.txt in the source tree |
05:18.37 | abcbooze | i have 3* |
05:18.38 | Juggie | its nice and tight, but a bitch to code for |
05:18.48 | fiber0pti | Doesn't look like I have app_page.. I'll see about getting the new version.. but in the mean time I've created a paging conference room.. how do I dial few extensions and automatically connect them? |
05:19.00 | JerJer | abcbooze: sweet... which skinny driver? I have a dozen or so 12SP's out there limping along on chan_skinny |
05:19.05 | Juggie | fiber0pti, update to cvs-head |
05:19.12 | X-Rob | fiber0pti - are you using 1.2 or CVS HEAD? |
05:19.25 | X-Rob | if you're using 1.2beta1 you can use http://aussievoip.com/allpage.agi |
05:19.41 | Juggie | its not really that complicated |
05:19.42 | JerJer | just cvs up |
05:19.45 | Lathos42 | JerJer: This isnt protocol related.. but who would you suggest getting a T1 from in our neck of the woods? |
05:19.48 | Juggie | even without app_page |
05:19.50 | fiber0pti | x-Rob:1.0.7 |
05:19.55 | abcbooze | JerJer, chan_sccp2 |
05:19.56 | JerJer | Lathos42: i am biased |
05:19.59 | JerJer | abcbooze: fun |
05:20.02 | X-Rob | fiber0pti - see jerjer's comments - update. |
05:20.06 | Juggie | generate your calls, auto join them into a meetme conf, listen only |
05:20.11 | abcbooze | can't get hold to work right though =/ |
05:20.26 | Lathos42 | JerJer: Why, because you could sell me one? :) |
05:20.31 | Juggie | when all the calls join, play a beep, and then let the person who generated the page talk |
05:20.37 | JerJer | Lathos42: yes |
05:20.55 | fiber0pti | I can't right now.. I need to talk with someone else before updating it and I can't do that until the morning.. there's no easy way to dial a couple of extensions and then put them in a meetme conference room? |
05:21.05 | JerJer | now |
05:21.06 | JerJer | no |
05:21.14 | JerJer | why you think an app was created? |
05:21.24 | JerJer | mkdir new_directory |
05:21.25 | Juggie | fiber0pti, asterisk manager interface |
05:21.30 | JerJer | cd new_diretory |
05:21.38 | morale | can you specify a password on the cvs login commandline? |
05:21.43 | Juggie | Action: Originate |
05:21.48 | Juggie | create your calls, join them into meetme |
05:21.51 | JerJer | cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.digium:/usr/cvsroot co asterisk |
05:21.52 | Lathos42 | JerJer: We were reminded of how vulnerable our internet connection was the other day when SBC lost a router |
05:21.54 | *** join/#asterisk alephcom (n=Miranda@207.34.97.130) |
05:22.04 | JerJer | fiber0pti: then compile that tree |
05:22.09 | JerJer | but do not make install |
05:22.26 | JerJer | then very simply copy over app_page.so to /usr/lib/asterisk/modules |
05:22.29 | alephcom | Has anybody here done anything with the Asterisk POE perl libraries? I'm looking at building something to do realtime billing using that. Any comments? |
05:22.36 | JerJer | then asterisk -r and load app_page.so |
05:22.50 | JerJer | that's precisely how i tried it on a production system for a customer |
05:23.01 | JerJer | IP from sbc - are you mad? |
05:23.26 | Lathos42 | JerJer: I may have told you before, They signed the contract with SBC before I started working there. |
05:23.37 | JerJer | wonderful |
05:23.39 | JerJer | get out of it :) |
05:23.55 | Lathos42 | It'll be up in March or April |
05:24.02 | JerJer | there ya go |
05:24.18 | morale | mmm.. i wonder when this coffee was brewed.. |
05:24.45 | Lathos42 | For the time being, I'd like to get a backup connection going |
05:25.17 | JerJer | Lathos42: you are down in like lansing or detoliet right? |
05:25.34 | Lathos42 | Yeah, Eaton Rapids, Actually |
05:25.50 | JerJer | chocolate cake |
05:26.17 | JerJer | better yet - special brownies - its that easy :) |
05:27.05 | *** join/#asterisk docelm0 (n=docelm0@pool-71-243-242-151.tampfl.fios.verizon.net) |
05:27.52 | Lathos42 | What would be a rough number that it would cost me for a T1? |
05:28.47 | JerJer | certainly less than $500 a month |
05:28.50 | JerJer | prolly a lot less |
05:29.09 | JerJer | level3 and uunet - all gig-e network |
05:31.23 | Lathos42 | SBC is trying to push us towards their 3.0 service.. instead of saving us money by renegotiating our rates down from the $799 we pay now |
05:31.41 | JerJer | oh christ |
05:31.47 | JerJer | its now $600 :) |
05:32.18 | *** join/#asterisk citats (n=james@bgp925576bgs.brghtn01.mi.comcast.net) |
05:32.30 | JerJer | static ! |
05:32.38 | citats | whats happening? |
05:32.45 | Lathos42 | Is that all that SBC has come down to in the past 3 years? |
05:32.47 | JerJer | just got back from Cali |
05:33.12 | citats | i'm sure a good time was had by all |
05:33.21 | JerJer | some had too good of a time |
05:33.33 | citats | is that even possible? :) |
05:33.43 | JerJer | Someone needs to ask Damin about "Sir...Sir, please don't urinate in the kitchen" :) |
05:33.56 | citats | heh |
05:34.01 | Qwell[] | JerJer: according to Damin, Del Taco is THE place to be at 2am |
05:34.06 | Qwell[] | the Del Taco parking lot even |
05:34.10 | JerJer | yeah |
05:34.24 | JerJer | he was hangin out with some of the locals, i guess |
05:34.36 | Qwell[] | that guy is too much |
05:34.45 | Lathos42 | JerJer: I'll have to get back with ya.. My ambien decided it would be a good time I went to sleep now. |
05:34.46 | JerJer | yeah Damin is great |
05:35.08 | Lathos42 | My chat window keeps bouncing around my field of view.. its fun! |
05:36.07 | Lathos42 | later gators |
05:36.21 | jdv79 | anyone using a lucent TN with *? |
05:36.32 | jdv79 | TNT i meant |
05:36.34 | JerJer | Qwell[]: assignment size of 'Qwell' is not known |
05:36.41 | websae | anyone here using ASTBILL? |
05:36.47 | websae | anyone at all? |
05:36.50 | JerJer | jdv79: yeah there are a few crazies out there running them |
05:36.54 | websae | looking for some AstBILL help---it seems like a great package |
05:36.58 | JerJer | um no |
05:37.01 | websae | but can't get it to work with sip phones |
05:37.02 | Qwell[] | JerJer: You aren't the first to make that joke. :p |
05:37.05 | jdv79 | why are they crazy |
05:37.11 | jdv79 | they're cheaper than ciscos |
05:37.23 | jdv79 | we just need some gw boxes |
05:37.24 | JerJer | ask me that IF you get one running |
05:37.31 | JerJer | it is not easy |
05:37.41 | jdv79 | i've had them doing some app once |
05:37.46 | jdv79 | but that was a long time ago |
05:38.08 | jdv79 | JerJer, what would you use for a flexible GW solution? |
05:38.11 | morale | haha, i made it work. |
05:38.15 | JerJer | jdv79: Asterisk |
05:38.15 | morale | this is so nifty. |
05:38.22 | jdv79 | DS3 style |
05:38.28 | JerJer | Asterisk |
05:38.36 | jdv79 | that's not possible |
05:38.46 | JerJer | bullfuckingshit |
05:38.48 | jdv79 | it only does quad t1 |
05:38.53 | JerJer | so? |
05:38.58 | JerJer | ever heard of multiple boxes? |
05:39.02 | JerJer | and a ds-3 mux |
05:39.15 | morale | Oct 15 23:33:23 WARNING[10777]: chan_sip.c:3442 process_sdp: Unknown SDP media type in offer: video 21654 RTP/AVP 26 31 34 - what does that mean? its trying to do some funky video stuff... should i just disable that module? |
05:39.18 | JerJer | problem solved |
05:39.25 | JerJer | TE411P baby! |
05:39.26 | Qwell[] | just get the ds3 card when it comes out, heh |
05:39.51 | jdv79 | a ds3 mux, 7 quad t1 cards and...3 boxes? |
05:39.58 | JerJer | there ya go thinkin again |
05:40.08 | WilliamK | Jer, BAH |
05:40.11 | WilliamK | =) |
05:40.11 | jdv79 | that's probably more than a cisco |
05:40.22 | JerJer | define more |
05:40.27 | jdv79 | i can get a AS5something for 25K |
05:40.39 | JerJer | how many CCIEs does it take to configure an as5400? |
05:40.48 | Qwell[] | oh, I love these jokes |
05:40.51 | Qwell[] | how many? |
05:40.54 | jdv79 | i have some guys that do it in their sleep |
05:41.02 | JerJer | then compare its flexibility to Asterisk |
05:41.04 | jdv79 | that's not an issue for me |
05:41.06 | WilliamK | Jer, none |
05:41.16 | WilliamK | last I knew most didn't know howto leave the drugs alone |
05:41.20 | jdv79 | how many quad cards will a box support? |
05:41.23 | jdv79 | 2,3,4? |
05:41.27 | JerJer | one |
05:41.36 | Qwell[] | 1 is realistic |
05:41.36 | jdv79 | that sucks, no? |
05:41.39 | JerJer | no |
05:41.49 | dasuberdavid | you can run two quad cards in a box |
05:41.52 | jdv79 | a small server is $1500 |
05:41.56 | JerJer | find me another solution that I can solve my own problems with |
05:42.00 | Qwell[] | sure, can... |
05:42.13 | WilliamK | =) |
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05:42.17 | WilliamK | or an APX8000 |
05:42.19 | WilliamK | :) |
05:42.20 | jdv79 | so that's 4K/box... |
05:42.21 | JerJer | i take it nobody has spent any time dealing with TAC |
05:42.24 | jdv79 | 7 boxes |
05:42.33 | jdv79 | 28K - same as a cisco |
05:42.35 | JerJer | arguing with them about 'bugs' |
05:42.45 | Qwell[] | jdv79: huge difference |
05:42.46 | WilliamK | Jer, I've spent plenty of time argueing with TAC about bugs |
05:42.59 | JerJer | with Asterisk I don't argue - if i find something i don't like, i can very easily change that behavior |
05:42.59 | jdv79 | well, there is no difference to me |
05:43.06 | WilliamK | question is do you give up before they do |
05:43.17 | jdv79 | i simply need GW boxes - nothing more |
05:43.27 | JerJer | its not just the boxes |
05:43.31 | JerJer | its managing them |
05:43.42 | jdv79 | AS5400s just work |
05:43.46 | jdv79 | like a rock |
05:43.58 | jdv79 | set and forget style |
05:44.01 | JerJer | if you say so |
05:44.04 | citats | haha |
05:44.06 | Qwell[] | put that rock in water. I bet it sinks |
05:44.09 | jdv79 | my cisco guys do |
05:44.11 | jdv79 | and i've seen it |
05:44.24 | JerJer | and they are pushing cisco products at you |
05:44.34 | citats | a few reboots a week kinda rock |
05:44.53 | jdv79 | cause they are cheaper than anything else and they're solid |
05:45.01 | jdv79 | i want to use something else but i haven't found anything yet |
05:45.02 | ManxPower | We've never had problems with ciscos, but we also don't push them hard either. |
05:45.21 | JerJer | jdv79: operate it for a while and you'll see |
05:45.37 | jdv79 | i'd like to avoid problems if i can:) |
05:45.47 | jdv79 | why would you not use ciscos or lucents? |
05:45.53 | citats | ciscos data stuff is solid. voice gear is a different software, its loaded with bugs |
05:46.04 | JerJer | flexibility |
05:46.06 | JerJer | adaptability |
05:46.10 | Qwell[] | jdv79: <JerJer> with Asterisk I don't argue - if i find something i don't like, i can very easily change that behavior |
05:46.15 | jdv79 | yeah but a gw box is just a gw |
05:46.23 | JerJer | asterisk can `just be a gw` |
05:46.39 | MikeJ[Laptop] | I can be drunk. |
05:46.54 | jdv79 | yeah but i have to manage 28 servers and a mux instead of 1 cisco box |
05:46.59 | JerJer | so yeah i get blamed for talkin shit, huh :) |
05:47.19 | jdv79 | power req++ |
05:47.27 | jdv79 | admin req++ |
05:47.29 | jdv79 | so why? |
05:47.38 | jontow | goddamn aheeva and their prebuilt binaries |
05:48.01 | JerJer | like i said, operate a proprietary solution for a while and you'll see |
05:48.28 | jdv79 | ok, i kind of believe you but i'm really looking for explanable reasons |
05:48.30 | Qwell[] | tip: If you're going to make a radio with a "game" on the front panel... |
05:48.42 | Qwell[] | When you choose random numbers for the "game"...MAKE SURE THEY'RE RANDOM. |
05:48.47 | JerJer | asterisk is not perfect, but unlike a cisco or tnt box, at least I have a chance on working around issues, until a real solution is at hand |
05:48.53 | jdv79 | how can i tell my telco guy that instead of one AS5400 we need 28 servers? |
05:49.14 | JerJer | how do you get 28 servers? |
05:49.16 | MikeJ[Laptop] | why would you need 28 serers? |
05:49.18 | Qwell[] | 001, 247, 483, 629, 865, ...001 |
05:49.25 | jdv79 | oh wait |
05:49.33 | JerJer | try 6-7 |
05:49.34 | jdv79 | 7 servers |
05:49.36 | jdv79 | yeah |
05:49.40 | JerJer | trivial |
05:49.44 | jdv79 | 28K was my esitmated cose |
05:49.52 | jdv79 | cost... i got mixed up:) |
05:49.53 | JerJer | you net boot them all off the same fuckin image |
05:49.59 | MikeJ[Laptop] | yeah, but you can probably do it for way less cost than the 5400 still |
05:50.03 | JerJer | problem solved |
05:50.15 | jdv79 | CPU fans are still moving:) |
05:50.23 | JerJer | smnp |
05:50.25 | JerJer | snmp |
05:50.31 | MikeJ[Laptop] | you think there aren't fans on a 5400 :P |
05:50.49 | jdv79 | there are but unlike a modern CPU they can deal for a bit |
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05:50.54 | JerJer | um |
05:51.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | but with this solution, you can bounce boxes for maint one at a time |
05:51.04 | jdv79 | unlike a PC where you got seconds until it frys |
05:51.07 | JerJer | as54 is not that much different from a 'modern cpu' |
05:51.16 | JerJer | its all microprocessors |
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05:51.33 | Qwell[] | MikeJ[Laptop]: yeah, I could just imagine losing one piece of $30k equipment... |
05:51.39 | Qwell[] | vs 1 of 7 servers. |
05:51.40 | JerJer | yeah, WHEN your as5400 does down, THE WHOLE DS-3 IS DOWN |
05:51.43 | JerJer | not if |
05:51.48 | JerJer | they reboot a whole lot |
05:51.57 | JerJer | tnt's also flake out entire spans too |
05:52.16 | JerJer | so does asterisk, but at least the scope of the problem is smaller on an Asterisk solution |
05:52.16 | jdv79 | ah, now i have at least heresay |
05:52.44 | jdv79 | asterisk flakes out? |
05:52.47 | jdv79 | even stable? |
05:52.50 | JerJer | like i keep saying, operate it for a while and you will have first hand experience of the pain |
05:53.01 | JerJer | stable is not 'without bugs and completely flaw free' |
05:53.25 | coppice | ever experienced the fault tolerance of a stratus? :-) |
05:53.40 | morale | its pretty bad when your voip provider is 160ms lagged to you.. |
05:53.40 | JerJer | it is a poor choice of some random point in time Mark (et all) decided to let Russel only commit 'bug fixes' to |
05:53.47 | morale | i need to find something closer. |
05:53.54 | JerJer | morale: yes you do |
05:53.59 | jdv79 | hm? |
05:54.06 | JerJer | i'm 20ms and i hate ti |
05:54.08 | JerJer | it |
05:54.20 | without | I have a TE Pri card and i unload the zaptel drivers and the box stops resonding is this common ?? |
05:54.20 | JerJer | poor word |
05:54.27 | morale | 15 hops - 15 pp01a.inphonex.com (208.239.76.157) 104.245 ms 105.079 ms 104.593 ms |
05:54.29 | JerJer | for the branch name |
05:54.30 | morale | thats the last hop |
05:54.38 | jdv79 | is russel a bottleneck or something? |
05:54.46 | JerJer | eh? |
05:54.58 | JerJer | the stable branch of code is crazy outdated |
05:55.05 | jdv79 | uh huh |
05:55.10 | jdv79 | why is that? |
05:55.14 | JerJer | cvs -head / 1.2rc1 is far superior |
05:55.15 | ManxPower | *shrug* I'm 11ms from my gateway to the internet and it gets worse after that. |
05:55.34 | jdv79 | i was gonna use the 1.2 release to go live with |
05:55.35 | JerJer | jdv79: you obviously don't know much about software development cycles |
05:55.36 | ManxPower | I don't even call is "stable" anymore. It's 1.0.x |
05:55.42 | ManxPower | Save the confustion. it's 1.0.d |
05:55.45 | jdv79 | JerJer, i certainly do |
05:55.48 | X-Rob | it's not called 'stable' |
05:55.51 | X-Rob | it's called '1.0' |
05:55.57 | JerJer | good |
05:56.01 | JerJer | very good |
05:56.19 | JerJer | lets keep reminding everyone of that |
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05:56.37 | ManxPower | There's 1.0.x and there's the "developement version" commonly called 'CVS-HEAD" |
05:56.39 | coppice | its called stable, because it is full of manure :-) |
05:56.44 | jdv79 | the DS3 card is never coming, right? |
05:57.13 | coppice | DS3 cards are a myth created to make people feel bigger |
05:57.41 | morale | anyone know if comwave uses sip or mgcp? |
05:57.41 | jdv79 | so you couldn't do 2 quad t1 card in one box? |
05:58.16 | jdv79 | T1s to the carrier and IAX to the * iVR servers... |
05:59.01 | JerJer | if you are not doing transcoding, maybe |
05:59.06 | jdv79 | t1s, ugh, i hate them |
05:59.15 | jdv79 | no transcoding |
05:59.27 | coppice | what's wrong with T1's? |
05:59.45 | jdv79 | you ever wire t1 frames up? |
05:59.47 | jdv79 | oh god |
06:00.01 | JerJer | get the right tools |
06:00.10 | jdv79 | its all those little wires and the colors... |
06:00.15 | jdv79 | i used to do it all the time |
06:00.19 | websae | anyone here using AstBILL at all--??? |
06:00.22 | coppice | T1s are a Cinch to wire up :-) |
06:00.41 | JerJer | websae: no one in their right mind would |
06:00.54 | websae | why's that? |
06:01.02 | JerJer | crap |
06:01.11 | alphaque | JerJer: cvshead/1.2rc1 is superior in what sense, stability or features ? |
06:01.12 | jdv79 | why not just cdr to a DB somewhere and build a little app on that |
06:01.34 | ManxPower | Yes, 25 pair cables are a bitch to punch down to a 66 block, but after a few days of practice you can get pretty good at it. |
06:01.35 | jdv79 | be cool if there was a comprehensive test suite:) |
06:01.44 | tzafrir_laptop | It's stable because its bugs remain constant |
06:01.54 | jdv79 | no 66 blocks - those wire wrap things |
06:01.59 | JerJer | alphaque: yes |
06:02.04 | jdv79 | i don't remember what's they're called |
06:02.17 | jdv79 | they have the T1 plugs on the front and all... |
06:02.17 | ManxPower | jdv79, I need to buy a wire wrap tool for one of out Tellabs channel banks |
06:02.22 | jdv79 | same thing on the back of a T1 DACS |
06:02.26 | coppice | you wire wrap T1s? weird |
06:02.27 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody built res_sqlite with the system copy of sqlite rather than downloading sqlite? |
06:02.37 | ManxPower | off to bed |
06:02.44 | jdv79 | i used to have the little gun wirewrap thing - it was really cool |
06:03.13 | jdv79 | coppice, yeah dude - telco style hardcore |
06:03.17 | jdv79 | i never want to do it again |
06:03.20 | coppice | are you calling us from the 1970s, or something? |
06:03.31 | jdv79 | i did it 5 years ago:) |
06:03.46 | jdv79 | on the back of 12 tellabs 5500s DACSes |
06:03.50 | jdv79 | ugh |
06:03.52 | coppice | I haven't seen them wirewrapped for 20 years |
06:04.02 | jdv79 | ok |
06:04.41 | MikeJ[Laptop] | Asterisk CVS HEAD built by mjerris@MIL-MJERRIS on a i686 running CYGWIN_NT-5.1 on 2005-10-16 04:55:39 UTC |
06:04.43 | MikeJ[Laptop] | :) |
06:04.45 | jdv79 | oh wait - the DACS had huge connectors and then the connection pannels to other t1 stuff was the wirewrap one |
06:04.52 | jdv79 | now i remember |
06:04.52 | MikeJ[Laptop] | almost working now... |
06:05.02 | kshumard_home | on a PRI, is RELEASE COMPLETE a valid response to a SETUP message? I wouldn't think so... |
06:05.16 | jdv79 | thanks for the advice all on the gw perdicament |
06:05.53 | coppice | kshumard_home: its valid. what do you thing is wrong with it? |
06:06.18 | jontow | mikej, hahah :D |
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06:06.56 | kshumard_home | coppice, I can't make outgoing calls, I send SETUP and immediately get back RELEASE COMPLETE indicating 'normal clearing' |
06:07.03 | kshumard_home | coppice inbound calls work fine though |
06:07.41 | coppice | so, you have a service problem, or you are dialing a wrong number. RELEASE COMPLETE is a perfectly valid response |
06:08.43 | kshumard_home | coppice do you know of a resource where I can find state diagrams or a list of valid responses to the various q931 messages? |
06:08.49 | kshumard_home | I haven't had any luck on google |
06:09.30 | coppice | you don't need that right now. you need to look at your dialed number, your NPI and TON and possibly your originating number |
06:09.49 | kshumard_home | I'm interested in it for personal education, though. : ) |
06:10.04 | kshumard_home | So I don't have to hope there's someone around here that knows q931 |
06:10.11 | coppice | but the Q.931 response codes are all in the libpri header files. I put them there years ago |
06:11.24 | kshumard_home | haha, right in front of my face, as it were. : ) |
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06:15.20 | coppice | I must have created that stuff in 2000. time flies |
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06:15.29 | kshumard_home | wow |
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06:20.32 | alephcom | websae: I'll put a plug in for myself for billing www.aleph-com.net/astpp I can't speak for astbill though..... |
06:22.45 | joelsolanki | hello friends. i want to change the asterisk-adds on code so that i get START / ANSWER / END time in mysql cdr table. anybody have done this. by default asterisk-adds onlys gives START time :( |
06:23.40 | Igbothom_III | can someone try to call my FWD number: 441658 please |
06:23.54 | joelsolanki | i suppose cdr_addon_mysql.c is the file which needs to be modified |
06:24.04 | joelsolanki | can anybody gvie any suggestions please? |
06:24.26 | Igbothom_III | np - my rego was not successful |
06:27.05 | morale | anyone use unlimitel? |
06:27.40 | morale | voip providers are so hokey-pokey. |
06:28.15 | alephcom | joelsanki: I don't have a reg but you should be able to calculate that if you have the answered time and and the billable seconds. as well as the start time. |
06:28.27 | alephcom | reg s/b patch. sorry |
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06:33.14 | morale | wow.. 23 milliseconds away |
06:34.13 | morale | 14ms seconds away on shaw cable.. |
06:37.23 | joelsolanki | alephcom: mysql cdr table has BILLSEC , DURATION, CALLDATE |
06:38.07 | joelsolanki | alephcom: but i have to show the customers there cdrs like START TIME== answer of call and END TIME== end of call. |
06:38.33 | jdv79 | quad T1 card - single CPU or dual? |
06:39.18 | joelsolanki | alephcom: the cdr which get logs at /var/log/asterisk/cdr-csv/Master.csv has START ANSER END time. |
06:39.21 | denon | depends on the codec you want to use |
06:39.29 | denon | jdv79 |
06:39.49 | jdv79 | 711 i think |
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06:40.02 | jdv79 | straight though |
06:40.03 | pauldy | joelsolanki, if it gives you start and duration youc an extrapolate end |
06:40.03 | denon | jdv79: you'll rarely regret going dual |
06:40.05 | kshumard_home | jdv79, you might be able to get away with 1 CPU if you also got the echo cancellation module on the card |
06:40.15 | jdv79 | price point i may...:) |
06:40.18 | jdv79 | but even still |
06:40.19 | denon | jdv79: but doing passthrough, your cpu reqs will be much lower |
06:40.23 | pauldy | answer might be a bit of a proble, |
06:40.41 | denon | but I'd still go dual -- if you're handling 4 PRIs, you certainly can justify a second cpu |
06:40.44 | kshumard_home | jdv79, will you be bridging voip calls? If not, there won't be any transcoding |
06:40.51 | joelsolanki | pauldy: no but customers need the STARTTIME == call answer time and ENDTIME= call ended time. |
06:41.04 | jdv79 | we have a IVR cluster and carriers:) |
06:41.15 | jdv79 | and i have to mate the 2 |
06:41.24 | jdv79 | that's all |
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06:48.27 | argos73 | joelsolanki: in my postgres cdr, you can "select calldate, duration, calldate+(duration::reltime) from cdr;" |
06:48.52 | argos73 | the ::reltime casts it as a unix timestamp, which can be used to calculate the ending time |
06:49.16 | argos73 | mysql probably can do something similar, but I'd need to play a little to figure out how |
06:50.19 | joelsolanki | argos73: yes mysql has similar..it provides me calldate , duration , billsec on which i can do billing. |
06:51.19 | argos73 | the trick is just to add calldate + duration - playing with syntax now |
06:53.59 | joelsolanki | argos73 i need to know is there any way to log START / ANSWER / END in to mysql cdrs. by default asterisk-addson logs START in mysql cdr. |
06:54.17 | bmg505 | morning all |
07:00.35 | argos73 | heh - easier than i thought... |
07:00.49 | argos73 | just select calldate, duration, calldate+duration from cdr; |
07:01.37 | abcbooze | anyone know of some good wholesale voip termination providers? |
07:02.27 | argos73 | without tweaking the source, it can't record endtime as it stands now.. |
07:04.28 | argos73 | denon: you ever catch last sunday's west wing? |
07:04.49 | argos73 | started playing with encoding it, but other things got in the way |
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07:16.20 | joelsolanki | ok got it Argos73 ..thanks :) |
07:21.09 | argos73 | joelsolanki: cool - no prob |
07:21.21 | joelsolanki | :) |
07:28.22 | pauldy | calldate + duration = end, end - billsec = answer |
07:34.29 | dasuberdavid | file[laptop] i for got my asterlink account info |
07:34.33 | dasuberdavid | forgot** |
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07:36.06 | desktophero | hello everyone |
07:40.18 | rvhi | try to run /usr/sbin/asterisk, but it didn't go background, any suggestion? |
07:40.39 | Igbothom_III | ! <--- type that |
07:42.17 | desktophero | rvhi - did * not start at all, r did you get an error message |
07:42.37 | rvhi | it starts well, running, processing calls |
07:42.50 | Igbothom_III | then, as I said, type !" |
07:42.51 | rvhi | it just stays foreground |
07:43.20 | rvhi | type !? where? |
07:43.38 | Igbothom_III | maybe in the console? |
07:43.41 | Igbothom_III | Where you are |
07:43.52 | rvhi | it didn't have a console |
07:44.11 | Igbothom_III | what, it ran and totally went blank? |
07:44.11 | rvhi | i didn't use option -c |
07:44.22 | rvhi | a bunch of output |
07:44.28 | Igbothom_III | and? |
07:44.46 | rvhi | running ok, just didn' go background |
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07:44.54 | rvhi | i have to leave the tty open |
07:44.57 | Igbothom_III | then it is foreground, yes? |
07:45.01 | rvhi | yes |
07:45.12 | desktophero | what about asterisk - vvv & |
07:45.40 | Igbothom_III | that's the bog standard Linux way to force a foreground app to the background |
07:45.49 | rvhi | with & it goes background, but according to wiki, without option it should go background |
07:45.50 | Igbothom_III | should work a treat |
07:47.07 | desktophero | for * - i have used no other way................. |
07:47.30 | rvhi | you mean ,with &? |
07:47.31 | pooh_ | Hi guys, when I place an IAX2 call from 1 phone to the other, the displays says ' asterisk', how can I change this pls? |
07:47.54 | Igbothom_III | change the "callerid=" in the context of the calling phone |
07:47.58 | desktophero | how about 'SetCallerID' from the dialplan? |
07:48.04 | pooh_ | I both did ... |
07:48.27 | desktophero | you did both what..? |
07:48.47 | desktophero | what version of *? |
07:48.53 | Igbothom_III | what about "usecallerid=yes for the receiving phone? |
07:49.14 | pooh_ | * 1.0.9, hold on got something here |
07:49.33 | pooh_ | ok, my bad. Dialplan (Macro too complex, typo!!!!) |
07:49.48 | pooh_ | sorry for the noise |
07:49.48 | Igbothom_III | :) |
07:50.08 | desktophero | complex macro -- ohhh drive me crazy! |
07:50.23 | pooh_ | I have hotdesking working, e.g. walk to a phone, logon and call |
07:50.28 | pooh_ | and receive calls |
07:50.50 | Igbothom_III | nice |
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07:51.01 | pooh_ | so a user is NOT bonded to 1 phone |
07:51.06 | Igbothom_III | excellent |
07:51.11 | pooh_ | kinda like computers or hotmail :-) |
07:51.15 | Igbothom_III | :) |
07:51.19 | Tommmo | hi, im using asterisk Realtime, but when I try to register a user against mysql i get: |
07:51.22 | Igbothom_III | how complex is the dialplan for that? |
07:51.28 | Tommmo | Oct 16 17:47:06 DEBUG[1235]: db.c:182 ast_db_get: Unable to find key '5140' in family 'SIP/Registry' |
07:51.33 | Tommmo | anyone know how to fix this? |
07:51.41 | desktophero | okay...my office is more about the phone being tied to a desk...than to a user |
07:51.45 | pooh_ | Igbothom_III: pretty easdy actually |
07:52.04 | Igbothom_III | ~pb if you are gonna paste anything |
07:52.06 | jbot | okay, Igbothom_III |
07:52.15 | Igbothom_III | ~pb |
07:52.16 | jbot | i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca/ |
07:52.23 | desktophero | Tommo - huh? |
07:52.33 | Igbothom_III | g'day jbot |
07:52.36 | Tommmo | desktophero: ? |
07:52.36 | pooh_ | no no, we have seperated the *thinking* that when you call a person you call a device |
07:52.49 | pooh_ | so we have devices and usersnumbers |
07:52.59 | pooh_ | the devicenumbers are not known to the users |
07:53.00 | Igbothom_III | yeah, hotdesking makes sense in a lot of cases |
07:53.17 | pooh_ | e.g I am 504 wherev I am |
07:53.25 | desktophero | pooh - i get that concept - but have yet to see a viable concept about the "why"... |
07:53.30 | Igbothom_III | what distro u using? |
07:53.36 | pooh_ | Centos 4.1 |
07:53.37 | Igbothom_III | (or fresh build on Linux?) |
07:53.37 | desktophero | at least in our environment... |
07:53.47 | pooh_ | We have flexible workspaces and teleworkers |
07:54.03 | Igbothom_III | desktophero; where you have 3 desks, 3 phones and 6 sales staff who are occas in the office :) |
07:54.21 | pooh_ | same issue when using device numbers normally |
07:54.23 | desktophero | pooh - we don't necessarily. Our users would not "get it" |
07:54.34 | pooh_ | yeah |
07:54.46 | desktophero | sales staff have DIDs...they would not "get it" |
07:54.54 | pooh_ | We even can hotdesk to with our cellphones |
07:55.00 | Igbothom_III | :) |
07:55.07 | pooh_ | DID are easily integrated |
07:55.20 | Igbothom_III | assign the DID to the user, not the device |
07:55.38 | pooh_ | nope, assign the DID to the device the user is at :-) |
07:55.40 | desktophero | i can route a DID throughout the country - I DONT CARE ;)...the sales staff would complain about having to punch extra digits...;) |
07:55.47 | Igbothom_III | that's what I meant |
07:55.50 | Igbothom_III | same end result |
07:55.53 | pooh_ | 1 time login only, where they are |
07:56.19 | pooh_ | and login is automatically logoff the 'old' device |
07:56.30 | desktophero | pooh - I know what you mean - not ALWAYS practical - know what I mean? |
07:56.46 | pooh_ | Yes, so never log out :-) |
07:57.09 | desktophero | but be able to go WHEREVER...and still get THEIR calls....ugh!!!!\ |
07:57.12 | af_ | which way could I debug a problem with dmtf? |
07:57.20 | af_ | morning all |
07:57.37 | pooh_ | desktophero: we are not in totally sync I guess ;-) |
07:57.52 | desktophero | pooh - what do you mean? |
07:58.46 | pooh_ | I didn't understand your last comment |
07:58.47 | desktophero | pooh - calls route where they are...but they don't want to do ANYTHING for their calls to follow them.... |
07:59.14 | kshumard_home | af_, voip or pstn? |
07:59.45 | kshumard_home | af_, you could start by turning on debug in logger.conf, then `logger rotate` in asterisk and make the call again |
07:59.45 | desktophero | they LOGIN to phone A and then move to PHONE B...no login or logout they just want calls to follow them to phone b |
07:59.48 | kshumard_home | see if asterisk sees it |
08:00.31 | desktophero | does that help pooh |
08:00.34 | pooh_ | desktophero: some sort of mechanism should detect where the user is at, what do you suggest? |
08:01.12 | desktophero | pooh - they don't want login/logout...just have their extension "follow them""....... |
08:01.25 | pooh_ | desktophero: I understand, but how? |
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08:01.39 | pooh_ | the phones do not have eyes and can not see who is in front of them ;-) |
08:01.47 | desktophero | login-logout...sure I can have calls follow that. |
08:02.32 | pooh_ | there is only login, logout is automatically done by login |
08:02.34 | desktophero | but if I can predict what phone (physical phone) that are that...I am going to go into the business of predicting the lotto numbers ;) |
08:02.36 | pooh_ | 1 less step ;-) |
08:02.55 | desktophero | THEY DON'T WANT TO LOGIN ;)_ |
08:03.08 | desktophero | i am dealing with |
08:03.09 | kshumard_home | You could rig something up with bluetooth to automate the login process based on presence... |
08:03.14 | kshumard_home | but that might not be very feasible |
08:03.15 | desktophero | SILLY users ;) |
08:03.38 | desktophero | i am venting about the mindset...LOGIN only - i get it |
08:03.39 | pooh_ | :-) |
08:03.57 | kshumard_home | or script something on the system... are they always in front of a computer they have to login to? |
08:04.04 | desktophero | now - we are on the same mindset...i think....darn users! ;) ;) |
08:04.20 | pooh_ | :-) |
08:04.53 | desktophero | pooh - have you done any work with IAX2 trunk between 2 * servers? |
08:04.57 | pooh_ | Come to speak of that, we are working with SUN Microsystems to integrate our hotdesking into SunRay |
08:05.26 | pooh_ | SUNRay is a kind of terminal server thing where the users have a smartcard to access the terminal |
08:05.43 | pooh_ | slide in your card and you have your session AND your phonecalls ;-) |
08:05.46 | desktophero | how about * with LDAP and use logins on a domain...HA! |
08:05.55 | pooh_ | SUNRay does that :-) |
08:06.22 | pooh_ | trunking is pretty easy, make sure that bith * servers have a trusted friend account |
08:07.55 | desktophero | pooh - how far are the 2 servers? and are u talking about LDAP...? |
08:08.02 | JamesDotCom | anyone here have any experience with audiocodes mediant 2000? |
08:08.22 | desktophero | sorry James - no luck here... |
08:08.24 | pooh_ | nope, talking about IAX.conf entries and VoIP is global ;-) |
08:08.46 | desktophero | pooh - how far are the two servers for the trunk? |
08:09.13 | pooh_ | JamesDotCom: send audiocodes an e-mail, they are very helpfull. Better mail the israel office |
08:09.36 | desktophero | all - what is audiocodes? |
08:09.57 | pooh_ | very expensive but VERY HIGH QUALITY VoIP equipment |
08:10.32 | desktophero | domestic us provider at all....I like high qualiy ;) |
08:10.53 | pooh_ | nope, Israelian corp |
08:11.19 | desktophero | darn... |
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08:13.51 | pooh_ | desktophero: what do you mean exactly by ' how far are the 2 servers for the trunk' ? |
08:15.05 | JamesDotCom | pooh_: thanks might give that a shot, it sucks the lack of help around the net you can find for them |
08:15.17 | pooh_ | JamesDotCom: np |
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08:16.21 | desktophero | pooh - i have two servers tht are connected over a WAN - one is over a business DSL line and about 1200 miles apart. the others are 2 feet in distance |
08:16.38 | pooh_ | desktophero, it is all about the latency |
08:16.45 | pooh_ | keep it below 100 ms |
08:17.07 | morale | i just cancelled my voip service, it was 190ms latent. |
08:17.14 | pooh_ | yup |
08:17.18 | JamesDotCom | pooh_: nm that, i managed to get it working... somehow |
08:17.46 | JamesDotCom | the only thing worse than not being able to figure out a problem is when its fixed and you're not quite sure how you did it |
08:18.03 | pooh_ | tell me about it..... :-( |
08:18.20 | desktophero | i check latency ALL the TIME - is that "status" when you "iax2 show peers" in the cli?? becuase a ping shows different ms times |
08:18.47 | pooh_ | Yup, status is the thing to watch |
08:19.03 | desktophero | --agree with pooh about documents...ha! |
08:20.08 | desktophero | pooh - normally, status ms is around 60ms. sometime it gets to ~300ms |
08:21.14 | desktophero | i recompiles rtp.c with a 2056 max time skew - this removed some of the warnings and "chopper sound" |
08:22.08 | pooh_ | ok... |
08:23.02 | pooh_ | interesting RTP patch, got a URL for that pls? |
08:24.24 | desktophero | i ended up finding that when searching for issues about data packets being reached prior to voice packets. it is a bug. and this was the solution;) |
08:24.34 | desktophero | i can look it up |
08:25.11 | pooh_ | thx |
08:26.32 | desktophero | http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001195 |
08:26.50 | desktophero | i think this is part .... see above |
08:28.07 | pooh_ | thx! |
08:28.35 | desktophero | this is the line in rtp.c in src : #define MAX_TIMESTAMP_SKEW |
08:28.44 | morale | wow this www.link2voip.com provider is looking pretty decent. |
08:28.51 | morale | 23ms latency |
08:28.55 | desktophero | default is like 64...not enough over a WAN ;) |
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08:29.42 | desktophero | morale - I wish I could get that over my WAN ;) |
08:30.02 | desktophero | 58 is a wet dream ;) |
08:30.28 | desktophero | sorry if that offends anyone....but this has being going on for about 6 months |
08:30.37 | morale | im only on a cable modem.. that is doing a traceroute to them, im not sure what its going to add up to once it starts encapsulating the sip/iax packets |
08:32.01 | desktophero | my connections are a business DSL. my consumer cable modem gets better sound quality over SIP that the VPN connected IAX2 trunk |
08:32.38 | desktophero | does my last statement make sense?? |
08:32.52 | desktophero | up tooooooo late. ;) |
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08:37.22 | pooh_ | VPN eats bandwidth too |
08:37.27 | pooh_ | IP eats bandwidth |
08:37.33 | pooh_ | and VoIP eats bandwidth |
08:38.03 | pooh_ | next to latency we have the issue of bandwidth ;-) |
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08:47.25 | tzafrir_laptop | why would you need a VPN for IAX? |
08:47.46 | pooh_ | Maybe a corp descision |
08:53.58 | Dr_Ray | I think people equate vpn with security |
08:54.25 | Dr_Ray | my IAX box is on the outside, with a healthy set of iptables. |
09:03.31 | tzafrir_laptop | Dr_Ray, iptables adds latency. build the firewall so that IAX2 packets go through a minimal number of rules |
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09:11.14 | astcryz | Hi :-) |
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09:12.01 | astcryz | I have a little problem. i have intsalled mpg123 and music on hold is running, but i dont get anything but scramling and wicked sounds, is that because i do not have a sound card in the asterisk machine? or what can it be? |
09:12.06 | astcryz | any help would be appreciated! :) |
09:13.43 | morale | did you install mpg123 0.59r ? |
09:13.55 | morale | what version is it of mpg123 |
09:14.35 | BladeRunner05 | someone use chan_capi ? |
09:15.14 | astcryz | 0.2.10 is the version |
09:16.01 | morale | that is mpg321 not mpg123 i think.. try installing mpg123 0.59r |
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09:17.43 | astcryz | hm, i will try |
09:17.45 | astcryz | thank you |
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09:35.03 | BladeRunner05 | I need a good extension.conf example to study, who have one ? |
09:35.46 | morale | anyone know when a final release for 1.2.0 is supposed to be? |
09:39.37 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody know of a free software for call quality testing? |
09:43.32 | Igbothom_III | your ear? |
09:43.38 | Igbothom_III | your brain's soft :) |
09:43.46 | Igbothom_III | (well, mine is, at least) :) |
09:44.05 | Igbothom_III | BladeRunner05; me too - try http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20config%20extensions.conf |
09:51.26 | BladeRunner05 | Why can call out with this: exten => _XXXXXXXXXX,2,Dial,CAPI/959010${CALLERIDNUM}:b${EXTEN:1}) |
09:51.35 | BladeRunner05 | sorry Why can't call out with this: exten => _XXXXXXXXXX,2,Dial,CAPI/959010${CALLERIDNUM}:b${EXTEN:1}) |
09:53.01 | BladeRunner05 | it say: Unable to create channel of type 'CAPI' |
09:53.12 | BladeRunner05 | But it answer the call |
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09:57.25 | tzafrir_laptop | Igbothom_III, my ear is known to be very insensetive. Even compared to an "average person" |
10:00.56 | snitt | you mean insensitive? |
10:02.53 | tzafrir_laptop | insensitive to typos as well, I figure |
10:03.50 | snitt | :) |
10:03.51 | tzafrir_laptop | It is also a matter of memory: is the current sample better than the one I heard two minutes ago? or the one two days ago? |
10:04.07 | snitt | can i use Set(TIMEOUT(digit)=5) with * version < 1.2? |
10:05.36 | snitt | i did not say that the current version is 1.2 |
10:05.38 | tzafrir_laptop | snitt, I figure you can, but it has a different name |
10:05.44 | snitt | oh yes i know |
10:05.48 | snitt | but im downgrading now |
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10:10.41 | tzafrir_laptop | any idea how to implement a "for" loop in the dialplan without using an AGI? What I don't know how to do is to decrement the counter. |
10:11.10 | pooh_ | GotoIf ? |
10:11.33 | tzafrir_laptop | pooh_, yes, but how do I decrement the counter? |
10:11.41 | pooh_ | var1 =var - 1 |
10:11.47 | pooh_ | var1 = var1 -1 |
10:11.56 | tzafrir_laptop | Is this syntax supported by SetVar? |
10:12.00 | pooh_ | yes |
10:12.51 | tzafrir_laptop | now any ideas which of the standard sound files takes exactly (or little less than) 1 second? |
10:13.19 | snitt | silence/1? |
10:13.20 | pooh_ | exten => s,6,SetVar(current_loop=$[${current_loop} + 1]) |
10:14.08 | pooh_ | beep or maybe silence in different lenghts ? |
10:14.15 | pooh_ | snitt: ;-) yes |
10:14.25 | tzafrir_laptop | pooh_, actually, it is: _23. => do_something_with_${EXTEN:2} |
10:14.37 | pooh_ | so? |
10:14.50 | pooh_ | what do you want with that what does it have to do? |
10:15.14 | tzafrir_laptop | well, seems like what I need |
10:15.44 | pooh_ | Still do not understand what you need |
10:16.05 | pooh_ | 'do something' can be a awefull lot ;-) |
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10:20.42 | snitt | +++ killed by SIGKILL +++ |
10:20.43 | snitt | :DD |
10:21.33 | littleball | hello, i have a conference setup by using meetme. When all parties disconnected, i still can see there is one user in the conference room. and one channel is still occupied. how to recover this channel? |
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10:26.44 | tzafrir_laptop | pooh_, I call 23xxx with a call file, and this gives me a timed-out "doing something". Just trying to load my server |
10:27.08 | tzafrir_laptop | I also use Wait and WaitMusicOnHold for other types of "doing" |
10:28.57 | tzafrir_laptop | littleball, kick the user? |
10:29.20 | tzafrir_laptop | (or another solution that involves a boot) |
10:31.34 | littleball | in my case, i tested three users in one conference room. When each user leave the room (just disconnect the call), a deadagi will be called. |
10:32.46 | littleball | but when one of the three users disconnected, it seems that the asterisk doesn't notice such a disconnection.So. asterisk still occupy a zap channel until i restart the asterisk |
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10:34.22 | littleball | tzafrir_laptop, kick user doesn't work. (1) when my users use conference call, no way for me to know whether the conference is live or not. (2)it should be cleaned automatically |
10:42.49 | tzafrir_laptop | littleball, so the problem is with chan_zap, and not with the meetme app |
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10:43.36 | littleball | it could be |
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11:02.22 | astcryz | RoyK`;) |
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11:15.28 | astcryz | :-) |
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12:49.19 | cryzeck | what is that? |
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14:41.40 | puzzled | hi all |
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15:19.42 | InfraRed | hi |
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16:02.17 | Xen^ | hello all |
16:02.20 | Xen^ | can some one tell me can i run real players files using asterisk ? |
16:02.33 | Xen^ | like we have MP3Player() command |
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16:10.01 | SkramX | Xen^: Convert to GSM :) |
16:10.17 | Xen^ | SkramX : how can i convert if streaming it live :) |
16:10.23 | Xen^ | means real time :) |
16:11.26 | SkramX | What is the file ext.? |
16:12.06 | Xen^ | file.rm |
16:12.32 | file[laptop] | you can't. |
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16:13.05 | Insanity5 | whos treams in rm anymore anyways? |
16:13.17 | SkramX | heh |
16:13.19 | file[laptop] | people do. |
16:13.25 | file[laptop] | I know, it's crazy |
16:13.36 | Qwell[] | file[laptop]: You missed some good times last week. ;] |
16:13.38 | Xen^ | we are doing it |
16:13.40 | Insanity5 | It's really a crappy format that never scaled beyond dialup. |
16:13.41 | Xen^ | here in Pakistan |
16:13.43 | file[laptop] | Qwell[]: I bet |
16:13.51 | Xen^ | for earthquake |
16:14.03 | Xen^ | so that people can dial and listen to news :) |
16:14.04 | file[laptop] | Xen^: asterisk can't deal with realplayer stuff, at all... so have fun |
16:14.44 | Xen^ | :( |
16:14.52 | InfraRed | not sure it can deal with streamed news either |
16:14.53 | supaigtr | Only way I know is to take output of soundcard and reformat on another machine mic input. |
16:14.57 | InfraRed | streamed mp3 |
16:15.07 | file[laptop] | restream it as mp3... |
16:15.11 | InfraRed | supaigtr: no |
16:15.11 | Insanity5 | play it out to a soundcard, loop it back in to microphone, and reencode. It will sound like crap, but that's ok, telephone and rm alwready sound like crap. |
16:15.16 | SkramX | Xen^: how do callers dial in if land line phones are out.. and I assume cell coverage is hay-wire aswell.. |
16:16.51 | Insanity5 | shortwave radios is the best solution :) |
16:17.32 | Xen^ | SkramX : well dude |
16:18.06 | InfraRed | Xen^: get shoutcast server running |
16:18.16 | InfraRed | it can take the input from wav/sound out |
16:18.20 | InfraRed | then stream it as mp3 |
16:18.25 | InfraRed | connect to that and stream it |
16:18.28 | Xen^ | InfraRed : well i have slimserver :) |
16:18.33 | InfraRed | transcoding at its worst |
16:18.36 | InfraRed | :) |
16:20.01 | Insanity5 | and then listening over phone lines |
16:20.03 | Insanity5 | hehe |
16:20.08 | *** join/#asterisk dalfry (n=dalfry@ool-435285b1.dyn.optonline.net) |
16:20.11 | Insanity5 | one mroe transcode |
16:20.24 | Xen^ | ? |
16:20.57 | InfraRed | this is xen reporting from the moon |
16:21.24 | Xen^ | umm |
16:22.09 | Insanity5 | It will transcode again from mp3 to g711u |
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16:31.59 | Wi_Fi | yo |
16:32.02 | Wi_Fi | i set up FWD with AAH and get busy signal when dialing 393612 |
16:32.25 | Wi_Fi | and nothing showing up in asterisk -rvvvvvv |
16:35.29 | Wi_Fi | hehe |
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16:40.56 | *** join/#asterisk toresbe (i=tsb@developer.skolelinux.no) |
16:41.00 | toresbe | hey guys |
16:41.21 | toresbe | Anyone here have a modem accessible with asterisk? |
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16:41.35 | kFuQ | sup shido6 |
16:41.40 | shido6 | zzZzzz |
16:41.43 | kFuQ | l0l |
16:41.46 | shido6 | nicotine in the morning |
16:41.49 | kFuQ | yah |
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16:41.58 | toresbe | I have a terminal here with an acoustic coupler, y'see, and I want to "dial up" a modem |
16:41.59 | kFuQ | the 'ine' drugs |
16:42.30 | toresbe | whistling only gets me so far :) |
16:42.54 | InfraRed | terminal with an acoustic coupler |
16:42.57 | InfraRed | haha |
16:43.05 | InfraRed | you should ebay it |
16:43.11 | kFuQ | that like 900baud or something ? |
16:43.17 | kFuQ | l0l |
16:43.22 | InfraRed | probably 2400 |
16:43.27 | InfraRed | or 300 like the one i had |
16:43.30 | toresbe | It's 300 |
16:43.31 | InfraRed | well, used |
16:43.35 | InfraRed | \o/ |
16:43.37 | toresbe | TI Silent 700 |
16:43.44 | InfraRed | get rid of it |
16:43.46 | InfraRed | old POS |
16:43.48 | toresbe | WTF |
16:43.59 | toresbe | Do you know how much I've searched for this? |
16:44.10 | toresbe | It's my favorite classical piece of computing |
16:44.16 | kFuQ | use it for dialing on payphones lol |
16:44.16 | InfraRed | 18 minu=tes? |
16:44.46 | InfraRed | toresbe: someone is giving away a PDP-11 in london if you want it |
16:44.49 | InfraRed | fits well |
16:45.43 | toresbe | I already have a PDP-11 :) |
16:45.51 | InfraRed | heh |
16:46.00 | InfraRed | 'and a nuclear power station to run it' |
16:46.02 | toresbe | InfraRed: maybe you should post on the ClassicCmp list? |
16:46.11 | InfraRed | not mine |
16:46.11 | toresbe | InfraRed: Mine doesn't spend that much juice |
16:46.21 | InfraRed | i am getting rid of stuff |
16:46.25 | InfraRed | not aquiring more |
16:46.27 | InfraRed | +c |
16:46.28 | toresbe | heh |
16:46.39 | InfraRed | i am down to 2 rooms missing from the house |
16:46.44 | InfraRed | i was missing 3 rooms |
16:46.46 | InfraRed | :) |
16:46.53 | Insanity5 | you collect a lot of crap |
16:46.57 | Insanity5 | :) |
16:46.59 | InfraRed | yes! |
16:47.16 | InfraRed | i am giving away 7u compaq proliant 3000R |
16:47.16 | Insanity5 | Evidentely, you need to throw more stuff away. |
16:47.23 | Insanity5 | 7u? ouch |
16:47.23 | InfraRed | i am ! |
16:47.24 | Insanity5 | shipping |
16:47.35 | InfraRed | na, i emailed freecycle, some people want em |
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16:47.42 | Qwell[] | heh, cheaper to buy a roundtrip flight |
16:47.43 | InfraRed | you should subscribe to freecycle |
16:47.52 | InfraRed | it's the goodness |
16:47.56 | Insanity5 | I miss the old freeboxen.com site |
16:47.57 | BladeRunner05 | Hi sir, I have a problem, I can receive call, call an internal extension, but where I try to call out it return this error: Oct 16 18:43:43 NOTICE[589841]: chan_capi.c:1172 capi_request: didn't find capi device with outgoing msn = . you should check your config! |
16:47.58 | BladeRunner05 | Oct 16 18:43:43 NOTICE[589841]: app_dial.c:742 dial_exec: Unable to create channel of type 'CAPI' |
16:48.10 | InfraRed | Insanity5: archive.org |
16:48.15 | BladeRunner05 | and in the extension.conf I use: exten=>_0.,1,Dial(CAPI/@${4959530}:B${EXTEN}|30) |
16:48.16 | erickj_az | does anyone know how to lengthen the amount of time voicemailmain waits for a user to enter their extension? |
16:48.32 | BladeRunner05 | where is the problem =? |
16:48.33 | Insanity5 | InfraRed - lol, any drives in it? |
16:48.35 | Qwell[] | BladeRunner05: Is 4959530 a variable? |
16:48.42 | InfraRed | Insanity5: 3x 9GBs |
16:48.46 | BladeRunner05 | Qwell[]: is the msn |
16:48.48 | InfraRed | and raid array card |
16:48.49 | Insanity5 | InfraRed - well, it's no longer active after the maintained gave up. |
16:48.56 | Insanity5 | InfraRed - stirp the ram and drives, ebay, toss the rest. |
16:49.05 | InfraRed | thinking of doing that tbh |
16:49.29 | Qwell[] | BladeRunner05: Is it a variable? |
16:49.35 | Qwell[] | If not, why is it in ${}? |
16:49.45 | Insanity5 | But you'll still only get $10-20 unless it's got a crap-ton of ran. |
16:50.07 | BladeRunner05 | Qwell[]: ok I remove ${} |
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16:51.10 | BladeRunner05 | Oct 16 18:47:53 NOTICE[606225]: chan_capi.c:1172 capi_request: didn't find capi device with outgoing msn = 4959530. you should check your config! |
16:51.10 | BladeRunner05 | Oct 16 18:47:53 NOTICE[606225]: app_dial.c:742 dial_exec: Unable to create channel of type 'CAPI' |
16:51.20 | BladeRunner05 | Now this is the error that appears |
16:51.43 | erickj_az | does anyone know how to lengthen the amount of time voicemailmain waits for a user to enter their extension? |
16:52.18 | Qwell[] | BladeRunner05: Did you check your config? |
16:52.54 | BladeRunner05 | I use chan_capi and don't know what to check !?!?!?! |
16:53.13 | Qwell[] | ~docs |
16:53.14 | jbot | [docs] Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk |
16:53.16 | Qwell[] | BladeRunner05: Start there |
16:55.45 | InfraRed | qurestion regarding (can)reinvite, once the call is estableshed and the media stream is now going between the phone and destination does the sip control command still go through the server? |
16:56.04 | InfraRed | or are they direct between the phone and the peer ?> |
16:57.00 | erickj_az | does anyone know how to lengthen the amount of time voicemailmain waits for a user to enter their extension? |
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16:58.19 | file[laptop] | InfraRed: signalling still goes through server |
16:58.30 | InfraRed | nice! |
16:58.33 | InfraRed | good stuff |
17:01.32 | erickj_az | does anyone know how to lengthen the amount of time voicemailmain waits for a user to enter their extension? |
17:01.52 | Qwell[] | erickj_az: No need to ask over and over |
17:02.15 | erickj_az | I was told to do that last time I was here |
17:02.18 | Qwell[] | asking repeatedly basically means "Hey, I'm more important than everybody else. Look at me! Look at me!" |
17:02.24 | Qwell[] | erickj_az: sarcastically perhaps |
17:02.48 | erickj_az | I'm not more important than any one else here. |
17:02.58 | Qwell[] | Then please act like it... |
17:03.06 | erickj_az | I am wating for a lull in the chat before I ask again. |
17:03.21 | Qwell[] | What lull? I can see all three times you've asked, in one screen |
17:03.44 | erickj_az | Hence the tremendous voume of chating going on |
17:03.54 | erickj_az | Thanks for the tip. |
17:04.06 | Qwell[] | tremendous volume...right |
17:04.16 | Qwell[] | because 15 lines is "tremendous" |
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17:04.26 | erickj_az | Point and match |
17:04.30 | Qwell[] | 12, actually |
17:04.58 | file[laptop] | 'tis rude and makes the most experienced of us not want to help you |
17:05.21 | Qwell[] | file[laptop]: Why weren't you at astricon? :P |
17:05.32 | erickj_az | If no one here wants to help me, let me know and I'll go away. |
17:05.35 | file[laptop] | Qwell[]: because a plane ticket was $1000+ |
17:05.41 | Qwell[] | we went to this bar...he would have been cool with you drinking there, heh |
17:06.01 | file[laptop] | but, like, I'm 19 and legal drinking age is 21! sillyness |
17:06.14 | Qwell[] | like I said...that bartender would have been cool with it. :p |
17:06.19 | file[laptop] | scary |
17:06.25 | file[laptop] | life goes on however |
17:06.31 | Qwell[] | next year ;] |
17:07.44 | erickj_az | Just a thought.... |
17:08.05 | fiber0pti | I'm trying to make it so if the user dials their own extension from their phone it takes them directly to their mailbox and asks for their password. Here's what I have and doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/395550 |
17:08.10 | erickj_az | There is a reason people buy products from companies like Microsoft. |
17:08.19 | erickj_az | It's called support. |
17:08.27 | Qwell[] | erickj_az: Support from MS is *NOT* free |
17:08.35 | Qwell[] | This *IS* free. Deal with it. |
17:08.37 | MikeJ[Laptop] | erickj_azm there is support for asterisk |
17:08.46 | MikeJ[Laptop] | you can pay for all the support you want. |
17:08.53 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: what version? |
17:08.57 | erickj_az | You all in the Asterisk world tout this open source environment |
17:09.02 | fiber0pti | Qwell: 1.0.9 |
17:09.03 | MikeJ[Laptop] | free support however requires patience |
17:09.08 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: try something like |
17:09.23 | erickj_az | I see. |
17:09.24 | Qwell[] | x${CALLERIDNUM} = x${EXTEN} |
17:09.39 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: See what thats doing? |
17:09.54 | MikeJ[Laptop] | and no, I don't off the top of my head know.. . |
17:09.54 | fiber0pti | actually no. what does the "x" do? |
17:10.04 | erickj_az | Hopefully Lord Bill witll take an intrest in Asterisk |
17:10.05 | MikeJ[Laptop] | is there a config option in the sample conf for it/ |
17:10.05 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: its a literal x |
17:10.09 | Qwell[] | x500 = x500 |
17:10.30 | InfraRed | some company published asterisk book online as pdfs |
17:10.31 | InfraRed | \o/ |
17:10.35 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: and take it out of quotes. |
17:10.41 | Qwell[] | InfraRed: The authors did |
17:10.47 | ManxPower | fiber0pti, It's an old shell scripting trick. they could not test for an empty variable either. |
17:10.52 | InfraRed | cool |
17:11.00 | Qwell[] | InfraRed: O'Reilly let them publish it under the Creative Commons license. You should still buy the book though, it's great |
17:11.11 | file[laptop] | the book rocks |
17:11.12 | erickj_az | I did. |
17:11.19 | Qwell[] | file[laptop]: Is yours signed? |
17:11.24 | InfraRed | i probably will |
17:11.25 | file[laptop] | Qwell[]: no, sadly not |
17:11.29 | Qwell[] | :( |
17:11.32 | InfraRed | i'll sign it |
17:11.33 | Qwell[] | Should've come to Astricon. heh |
17:11.34 | InfraRed | for a small fee |
17:11.42 | file[laptop] | yeah... if I had money :P |
17:11.55 | fiber0pti | Hrm.. that's putting me into voicemail right away.. |
17:11.56 | Qwell[] | free book signing! totally worth it. :D |
17:12.29 | InfraRed | its missing 2 appendixes tho |
17:12.58 | Qwell[] | file[laptop]: Ship it to all of the authors, and have them sign it by mail. |
17:13.01 | fen[mobile] | erickj_az: looks to be hardcoded to me in app_voicemail.c |
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17:14.33 | file[laptop] | Qwell[]: excellent idea lol |
17:14.48 | erickj_az | fen[mobile]: OK then I should change the code. Is there a way to just re-compile app_voicemail.c and install it. I'm new to linux. |
17:14.57 | InfraRed | i need to hire a coder forsome asterisk voiodoo |
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17:16.28 | Qwell[] | file[laptop]: Just put three prepaid envelopes and the book into one envelope, ship it to one, and put instructions on how to ship to the next. :p |
17:17.35 | MikeJ[Laptop] | erickj_az, if you change it in the code and just re-do the make and make install, it will just recompile the stuff it needs to |
17:18.05 | erickj_az | Thank you. |
17:18.41 | fiber0pti | Qwell: Did you mean something like this? http://pastebin.com/395565 |
17:18.43 | erickj_az | <PROTECTED> |
17:19.08 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: something like that, yeah |
17:19.22 | Qwell[] | except |
17:19.24 | fen[mobile] | erickj_az: iirc look at vm_authenticate |
17:19.26 | Qwell[] | s|1000 ? |
17:19.42 | Qwell[] | What is _XXX,1000, and what is s,1,? |
17:20.29 | fiber0pti | Qwell: That makes it so if I call my own extension from my phone it just sits there without connecting and if I dial someone elses extension it says they are unavailable.. any ideas? |
17:20.57 | fiber0pti | I'm trying to make it that if they don't match this exten does nothing.. is that not correct? |
17:21.05 | Qwell[] | no, wait, thats right...nevermind |
17:23.01 | fiber0pti | Qwell: Any idea why it's doing that? |
17:23.13 | Qwell[] | Whats it doing? |
17:23.20 | Qwell[] | oh |
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17:24.08 | fen[mobile] | erickj_az: timeouts are passed to ast_readstring(), which you can find in channel.c |
17:24.16 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: paste the output you see on the CLI |
17:25.05 | fiber0pti | Qwell: If i dial my own ext: -- Executing GotoIf("SIP/160-52a8", "x160 = x160?s|1000") in new stack |
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17:26.23 | Qwell[] | Does it say its moving to s,1000? |
17:26.23 | fiber0pti | Qwell: If I dial another extension this is what I get: http://pastebin.com/395574 |
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17:28.58 | [hC] | Hmm. I have an AgentCallbackLogin, that currently uses SIP/${CALLERIDNUM} to log you in, but of course its not always a SIP/ technology doing it. Is there a variable for which technology you were on, or should i just use Local? |
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17:33.41 | Assid | heya |
17:35.16 | erickj_az | fen[mobile]: I got to ast_waitfordigit Do you think that would be the right place to do it? |
17:35.41 | fiber0pti | Qwell: And where should i put this? |
17:35.51 | Qwell[] | put what? |
17:36.08 | erickj_az | <PROTECTED> |
17:36.52 | erickj_az | <PROTECTED> |
17:36.57 | fiber0pti | Qwell: The _XXX |
17:37.08 | fen[mobile] | erickj_az: iirc the timeout is in the call to ast_readstring in vm_authenticate - the 2000 and 10000 - try changing those to what you want |
17:37.13 | Qwell[] | You already have the _XXX |
17:37.20 | Qwell[] | <Qwell[]> Does it say its moving to s,1000? |
17:37.26 | Qwell[] | in the CLI |
17:38.21 | erickj_az | <PROTECTED> |
17:40.56 | fiber0pti | ohh.. didn't see that... if I dial my own ext no.. it jus has the one liner until timeout: Executing GotoIf("SIP/160-7208", "x160 = x160?s|1000") in new stack |
17:43.23 | fiber0pti | qwell: and if i dial another ext it doesn't say moving to s,1000 it says "-- Executing VoiceMail("SIP/160-a571", "u200") in new stack" which is s,1000 |
17:43.41 | Qwell[] | With the u? |
17:43.48 | Qwell[] | That wasn't in your pastebin |
17:43.53 | Assid | heya Qwell[] |
17:43.58 | Qwell[] | Assid: hi |
17:44.00 | Assid | hows u |
17:44.09 | Qwell[] | alright |
17:44.15 | fiber0pti | qwell: it's in the second line of http://pastebin.com/395574 |
17:44.22 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: the u isn't |
17:44.32 | Qwell[] | erm... |
17:44.37 | Qwell[] | not in 395565 |
17:45.55 | fiber0pti | Qwell: correct.. should it be? I just tried it and the behavior is the same. |
17:46.10 | Qwell[] | no, I'm saying...it's not s,1000, if the u is there |
17:48.49 | JerJer | traveling makes me so lazy just after i get bacl |
17:48.53 | JerJer | k |
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17:49.12 | erickj_az | Do you think I need to do a reload or should I stop Asterisk and re-start it after the compile |
17:49.15 | Qwell[] | JerJer: Don't pass out in the code zone again. :p |
17:49.18 | Qwell[] | erickj_az: restart it |
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17:49.42 | JerJer | power naps |
17:49.45 | fiber0pti | Qwell: I guess I don't know what you mean by that.. :S |
17:49.56 | Juxt | hello |
17:50.05 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: VoicemailMain(${EXTEN}) is not the same as VoicemailMain(u${EXTEN}) |
17:50.08 | Eyecon | hi all, I've been trying to get asterisk to work; I'm using kphone to connect to it and do the 1000 test; I hear the test and if I use DTMF # to quit then that works fine, but if I use the hangup button in kphone, asterisk segfaults |
17:50.12 | Eyecon | any ideas? |
17:50.13 | Qwell[] | the latter is being called in your dialplan |
17:50.21 | Qwell[] | the former is s,1000 |
17:50.40 | fiber0pti | Qwell: |
17:50.54 | fiber0pti | Nod.. but that line doesn't seem to be called with the statement is true |
17:50.59 | Qwell[] | in fact, no |
17:51.06 | Qwell[] | Voicemail(u${EXTEN}) |
17:51.08 | Qwell[] | not voicemailmain |
17:51.31 | Qwell[] | JerJer: my nap was taken during Keiths talk... |
17:52.11 | JerJer | hell yeah |
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17:55.14 | fiber0pti | Qwell: So I changed it to Voicemail(u${EXTEN}) and it still doesn't connect when dialing my own extension and when I dial another extension it still says they are unavailable. I don't know what it's doing but it seems to be ignoring the Gotoif when it's true. |
17:55.35 | Qwell[] | fiber0pti: pastebin the important parts of th dialplan... |
17:55.46 | Qwell[] | two lines doesn't help at all |
17:56.26 | fiber0pti | Qwell: http://pastebin.com/395610 |
17:56.32 | fiber0pti | ohh.. |
17:56.36 | fiber0pti | well that's all it is though.. |
17:57.00 | Qwell[] | no, that isn't all it is... |
17:57.06 | Qwell[] | voicemail wouldn't be getting called if that were the case |
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17:59.33 | erickj_az | It looks like the first number (2000) is the length of time it waits for the next digit and the second number (10000) total time? |
18:00.03 | Qwell[] | erickj_az: Does it really take your users 10 seconds to put in a voicemail box? |
18:00.57 | erickj_az | Yep...He is an MD and PhD |
18:01.30 | erickj_az | An most likly smater than anyone one else I know |
18:01.50 | Beirdo | and hopefully a better speller than most of us :) |
18:02.16 | erickj_az | He is also the guy who saved my life last year when I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. |
18:02.30 | Beirdo | cool |
18:02.44 | Qwell[] | make him fix it then |
18:02.57 | erickj_az | So, for all I care it could take him several hours to enter his mail box number and I'd wait for him. |
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18:05.15 | erickj_az | So, is the second number actually the total time or is it somthing else? |
18:09.00 | erickj_az | I want to thank you all for your help. I'm excited that I actually edit the c code correctly. I hope as time gos on I'll be able to make a greater contribution to the ASterisk commnity. |
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18:15.00 | jdv79 | how could one load test using the quad t1 cards... |
18:15.27 | Qwell[] | jdv79: You could probably crossconnect them, and make 46/48 "outgoing" calls |
18:15.42 | jdv79 | how about 2 boxes? |
18:15.51 | jdv79 | i want to see if i can get 2 cards in one box |
18:15.52 | Qwell[] | do they both have 4 ports? |
18:16.06 | jdv79 | so 2 boxes, 4 cards - 1:1? |
18:16.07 | Qwell[] | jdv79: 2 cards in a box isn't recommended |
18:16.13 | jdv79 | i know it isn't but i want to try |
18:16.18 | Qwell[] | then sure, try it |
18:16.24 | jdv79 | hence the load testing idea:) |
18:16.26 | jdv79 | aha! |
18:17.01 | jdv79 | with the new firmware and no transcoding i might have a shot;) |
18:17.20 | Qwell[] | better do echo can on the card then...heh |
18:17.30 | jdv79 | yup, best cards all around |
18:18.10 | Qwell[] | What type of machines? |
18:18.35 | jdv79 | dell 2850s |
18:18.40 | Qwell[] | specs? |
18:18.49 | jdv79 | dual 3.0 xeon |
18:18.54 | jdv79 | 2G ram... |
18:18.55 | Qwell[] | 32? |
18:19.04 | jdv79 | 32 whats? |
18:19.06 | Qwell[] | bit |
18:19.11 | jdv79 | uh, no |
18:19.18 | jdv79 | they're all 64 it looks like |
18:19.39 | jdv79 | i may end up running 32 bit linux though |
18:19.45 | Qwell[] | why? |
18:19.48 | Qwell[] | pointless |
18:20.04 | Qwell[] | severly hamper your performance |
18:20.08 | jdv79 | i've heard that the 64 bit version can be unworthy |
18:20.15 | jdv79 | i'm gonna try it first |
18:20.16 | Qwell[] | You heard very wrong. |
18:21.14 | Qwell[] | in that setup, I'd be using a Gentoo stage 1, with almost nothing installed |
18:21.55 | jdv79 | installed & running at 2 diff things but ok |
18:21.59 | jdv79 | are rather |
18:22.09 | Qwell[] | not with gentoo... |
18:22.20 | Qwell[] | USE="-mysql", for instance |
18:22.53 | jdv79 | are you talking about stuff installed on the box or stuff compiled into asterisk or something? |
18:22.59 | Qwell[] | all of the above |
18:23.12 | Qwell[] | noload a shitton of modules in asterisk |
18:23.24 | jdv79 | that's just memory though, right? |
18:23.33 | jdv79 | still no point in not doing it |
18:25.39 | jdv79 | hmm, would there be a marked difference in looping 2 cards in the same box against eachother or just having another box with 2 cards and doing a 1:1 between the 2 boxes... |
18:26.00 | Qwell[] | probably not. try all three methods |
18:26.12 | Qwell[] | or if they're identical machines, two methods |
18:26.20 | jdv79 | they are all identical |
18:26.25 | jdv79 | clones, we have clones! |
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18:32.03 | ronaldl79 | Hello. |
18:32.42 | ronaldl79 | I've always wondered, but just what exactly are you getting with 'CVS HEAD'? Are these nightly builds? And if so, do they contain new features? |
18:33.03 | ronaldl79 | I'm just curious, because although I'm running 1.2 beta, I want to be sure that I'm not missing out on something in the HEAD. |
18:33.08 | Qwell[] | ronaldl79: They are updated randomly throughout the day, whenever somebody commits a patch, its in CVS HEAD |
18:33.51 | ronaldl79 | Thanks, Qwell. |
18:34.10 | Qwell[] | so yes, tons of new features |
18:34.15 | Qwell[] | and also new bugs |
18:34.23 | ronaldl79 | Even those not available in 1.2 beta? |
18:34.32 | Qwell[] | yes |
18:34.35 | ronaldl79 | Really.... |
18:34.50 | ronaldl79 | Qwell, are you using HEAD? |
18:34.54 | Qwell[] | I am |
18:35.05 | ronaldl79 | Damn, I need more boxes to run these different versions. |
18:35.20 | ronaldl79 | Sounds HEAD is more experimental, and I'm an experimenting type of guy. :) |
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18:35.49 | ronaldl79 | Qwell, are these changes viewable via the CVS log? |
18:35.59 | KriS83 | hi |
18:36.02 | Qwell[] | ronaldl79: They are |
18:36.08 | ronaldl79 | Good deal. |
18:36.11 | ronaldl79 | Thanks, Qwell. |
18:36.14 | ronaldl79 | Hi, Kris83. |
18:36.15 | Qwell[] | ronaldl79: if you're interested, subscribe to the asterisk-cvs mailing list |
18:36.31 | jontow | ronaldl79: CVS HEAD is the true moving target branch; its never tagged as a release, always just development |
18:36.31 | ronaldl79 | I'll just view it...I don't do so too often. |
18:36.46 | ronaldl79 | Interesting....' |
18:36.55 | ronaldl79 | Where was 1.2 derived from? |
18:36.58 | jontow | it is the basis for new major-version releases, but it is "unrefined" as far as bugfixes go |
18:37.13 | ManxPower | 1.2Beta is a snapshot of CVS-HEAD |
18:37.14 | ronaldl79 | Jon, are those additions documented for implementation? |
18:37.26 | jontow | in code, and occasionally text otherwise ;) |
18:37.36 | jontow | mailing list archives are your best bet |
18:37.40 | ronaldl79 | Really, so the new features in 1.2 beta....were already active in HEAD, eh? |
18:37.41 | ManxPower | ~mailinglist |
18:37.44 | jbot | mailinglist is, like, Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/ |
18:37.48 | Qwell[] | ManxPower: its just a snapshot, and not a branch? |
18:37.54 | ronaldl79 | Yeah, I'm subscribed to users. |
18:37.57 | ManxPower | Qwell[], correct. |
18:38.12 | ManxPower | Qwell[], once it's out of beta I believe it will be a branch |
18:38.14 | ronaldl79 | How well is the HEAD working for you, Awell? |
18:38.23 | jontow | yeah, it'll be tagged as it's own branch when it hits -release |
18:38.28 | Qwell[] | ManxPower: So are features not currently being added to CVS? |
18:38.31 | jontow | thats the model as i understand it, anyway |
18:39.18 | KriS83 | I need some help with Asterisk ;( What I need asterisk to do is pickup Phonecalls from MSN 27 (via AVM B1 ISDN Card) and Play some musik or Have a VoiceBox or whatever. This is supposed to be the first step. Has anybody got a tutorial for me on how to set this up? I am very confussed by the mass on configs included in Asterisk |
18:39.18 | jontow | qwell; i believe feature stabilization is the point of the beta.. its just bugfixes, iirc. |
18:39.19 | ManxPower | Qwell[], as I understand it, based on the guidelines from kpflemming, anything that was not aleady in the bug tracker as a feature addition after some specific date (aug 15?) will not be added to 1.2 |
18:39.34 | Qwell[] | I see, okay. I do recall him saying that not at the dev meeting |
18:39.38 | Qwell[] | now* |
18:40.46 | jontow | alternately, as i had no luck at ~3am -- anyone played with sqlite [3?] .. res_sqlite or cdr_sqlite specifically? |
18:42.09 | ronaldl79 | So, to get CVS HEAD, would you simply tag it (-r) as 'CVS HEAD', or just the default checkout? |
18:42.24 | jontow | ronaldl79: "cvs checkout asterisk asterisk-addons libpri zaptel ......." |
18:42.29 | jontow | no -r requiresd |
18:42.31 | jontow | -s |
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18:42.38 | jontow | holy crap its windy out, hm |
18:42.51 | ronaldl79 | Oh, well, hell....I've been using CVS HEAD all along then....lol.... |
18:42.55 | jontow | :P |
18:43.08 | jontow | smooth. |
18:43.08 | jontow | hehe |
18:43.20 | ronaldl79 | CVS is still new for me, so I'm still learning how the process works with Asterisk. |
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18:43.42 | ronaldl79 | So, just to clarify once more, the latest CVS download has everything in 1.2 beta...plus any patches, correct? |
18:46.29 | jontow | and features |
18:46.35 | jontow | it is not tied to 1.2.0-beta1 |
18:46.49 | jontow | "nothing is held back" in CVS-HEAD :) |
18:46.56 | ronaldl79 | Good explanation! :) |
18:47.09 | jontow | there are no restrictions except that the code must go through the peer review etc |
18:47.19 | jontow | completely experimental by definition |
18:47.34 | jontow | but that doesn't necessarily mean its unstable, |
18:47.45 | ronaldl79 | Well, it sounds like I'm limiting myself by download 1.2 beta .... I'll just continue with what I've always done...downloading CVS head |
18:47.55 | jontow | i've successfully used it in a stable manner in a production environment or two when some of the features were called for and were not available in 1.0.x |
18:48.06 | ronaldl79 | Of course not, because for the past year, I always downloaded HEAD...and it worked fine. |
18:48.31 | ronaldl79 | My confusion is coming to rest I think. :) |
18:48.36 | jontow | i know many people who swear by HEAD only, but .. i'll be honest -- if you're gonna use it, make sure you have a good test environment setup ;) |
18:49.01 | jontow | you *will* find the occasional headache when something just isn't right |
18:49.21 | jontow | and the advice is generally "cvs update and rebuild.. you may have found a bad point in the tree" |
18:49.34 | ronaldl79 | Yeah |
18:49.45 | jontow | specifically, it is possible to catch a moment where something is half-committed or committed in a broken state and someone catches that, fixes in 5 minutes, and you've got the broken one.. ;) |
18:49.46 | ronaldl79 | I've read instances where folks updated later that night, and the build was successful. |
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18:50.15 | jontow | just live by "make clean ; cvs update -dP" |
18:50.29 | jontow | ;) |
18:51.10 | ronaldl79 | hmmmm |
18:51.14 | ronaldl79 | -dP ... |
18:51.21 | ronaldl79 | I always clean....:P |
18:51.38 | ronaldl79 | But those options doesn't ring a bell...cause I never use 'em. |
18:54.26 | jontow | heheh |
18:54.33 | jontow | well, investigate 'em |
18:54.35 | jontow | may come in handy :) |
18:57.03 | ronaldl79 | Are you guys using inband or rfcxxx for DTMF in your sip.conf? |
18:57.14 | Ahrimanes | rfc.. |
18:57.19 | ronaldl79 | Same here |
18:57.48 | ronaldl79 | I was testing my first IVR a few weeks ago, and people couldn't navigate the menus...until I switched from inband to rfc. |
18:58.26 | ronaldl79 | The only thing I'm seeing is a delayed response to DTMF ... and I don't believe it's anything on my end. |
18:58.32 | ManxPower | ronaldl79, That would be expected. |
18:58.55 | ronaldl79 | And sometimes, the DTMF tones aren't always detected....not cool. |
19:00.16 | ManxPower | DTMF detection problems on Zap ports can frequently be traced down to an issue with rcgain/txgain |
19:00.21 | ronaldl79 | I'm demoing * again tomorrow for the board of a client ... I hope they pee in their pants from the excitement over this PBX...telling everyone they know about the demo. |
19:03.19 | ronaldl79 | My hope is to expand my clientele around VoIP and IT in general...we shall see. |
19:03.42 | ManxPower | Last week I was having problems with IVR DTMF. turned out that I needed to ingrease the rxgain on my Zap port by 3db. today I had an issue with outbound calls. turned out I had to increase txgain by 3db |
19:03.54 | ronaldl79 | By the way, has anyone found any good comparison sheets for * vs. offerings from Nortel, Avaya with prices? I recall seeing one before, but don't remember the location. |
19:03.59 | ManxPower | I hate this new keyboard |
19:04.16 | ronaldl79 | Manx, I'm not using any hardware... |
19:04.25 | ronaldl79 | What type of board did you buy? |
19:04.28 | ManxPower | ronaldl79, then you have a problem with your provider |
19:04.39 | ManxPower | ronaldl79, I was using X101P |
19:04.42 | ronaldl79 | Bummer, don't tell me that...lol |
19:04.50 | ronaldl79 | Maybe BroadVoice just sucks. |
19:05.04 | ManxPower | but I only use that board for local incoming/outgoing calls on my personal home Asterisk server |
19:05.28 | ronaldl79 | Another thing I've noticed is a chirp just as * answers a call from the DID ... it's not *, but something on BV's end.... |
19:05.31 | ManxPower | ronaldl79, Search the mailing list archives for "broadvoice DTMF" and you'll see just how much they suck |
19:05.41 | ronaldl79 | Damn |
19:05.59 | ManxPower | And people wonder why I use local Zap and PSTN connections. |
19:07.13 | ronaldl79 | I really need to get into the hardware side of * ... I don't have any experience there. |
19:07.55 | ManxPower | ronaldl79, for prototyping you can use X100P or TDM400P cards, but for production I only use PRI and Zap T-1/PRI cards if I can. |
19:10.16 | Dr_Ray | ronald - get the dev kit |
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19:29.09 | infinity1 | haven't been here in awhile... |
19:29.20 | infinity1 | hows the current HEAD? :) |
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19:36.54 | drbrown | anyone had any success with snom phones and intercom?????? |
19:37.06 | drbrown | specifically w/ sipaddheader |
19:38.59 | nexis | has chanspy been pulled out of the cvs? |
19:39.08 | file | nope. |
19:39.09 | jontow | drbrown; i had no problems making autoanswer-intercom work.. |
19:39.48 | drbrown | jontow: what snom phones?? I am using snom 320's w/ the latest firmware |
19:39.54 | jontow | 320, 4.1 |
19:40.12 | drbrown | jontow: using sipaddheader??? |
19:40.13 | nexis | odd, cas its not part of the cvs i grabbed. |
19:40.16 | jontow | no |
19:40.19 | jontow | i haven't touched sipaddheader |
19:40.33 | jontow | didn't have a need to |
19:41.01 | drbrown | are you using auto answer??? on the phones themselves???? |
19:41.30 | jontow | i setup a line (line 11, iirc) as an extension in the dialplan, setup auto-answer on that line |
19:42.10 | jontow | and thats..it |
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19:43.00 | drbrown | I would really like to use the sipaddheader method, would save a lot of typing, and then I could also use the allpage agi program |
19:43.26 | infinity1 | wow. there is 1.2.0-beta1 now? so HEAD is finally stablizing? |
19:43.40 | jontow | heheheh |
19:43.58 | jontow | drbrown: don't know what to say.. i setup a macro to do the dirty work and its.. doing quite well |
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19:47.06 | docelm0 | Hola! |
19:49.24 | infinity1 | hey |
19:50.04 | docelm0 | Astricon was killer.. I have more pics to put up.. about 200 of them |
19:51.51 | nexis | im still trying to figure out why i dont have chanspy |
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19:52.33 | nexis | it should be in the src dir asterisk/apps/app_chanspy.c correct? |
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19:55.23 | ManxPower | they need astericon more often. kram has done more updates to Asterisk CVS in the past week than he has done in the past 3 months |
19:56.15 | infinity1 | ManxPower: becasue of astricon? |
19:56.26 | ManxPower | infinity1, I dunno, but astricon was last week |
19:56.49 | infinity1 | ManxPower: ;) ... lots of people submitting patches eh |
19:57.02 | Qwell[] | ManxPower: Dallas close enough? |
19:57.14 | ManxPower | Qwell[], Yeah, or Texarkana |
19:57.15 | docelm0 | yes.. I was sitting there besided him.. He was a coding fool.. |
19:57.21 | infinity1 | ManxPower: next one should be at Moscone Center in SF :) |
19:57.33 | Qwell[] | ManxPower: they were saying Astricon 2006 will be in Dallas, I believe |
19:57.39 | docelm0 | Yes. |
19:57.42 | ManxPower | SF would be cool too. the problem is that conventions in big cities are expensive |
19:57.42 | docelm0 | Dallas! |
19:57.54 | infinity1 | ahhh ...San Jose! |
19:58.11 | infinity1 | the only way i can go is if its driveable. |
19:58.11 | docelm0 | Dude.. Its crazy.. Cost me almost 3000 for this trip |
19:58.19 | infinity1 | i ain't driving to texas :) |
19:58.25 | ManxPower | infinity1, you're on the No Fly list? |
19:58.45 | docelm0 | infi where you from? |
19:58.59 | ManxPower | i'll be back later, need to rewire move the servers |
19:59.11 | infinity1 | san jose. i saw digium at the linux world here a few months ago |
19:59.39 | infinity1 | i don't use it enough to warrant the price to travel for it. |
19:59.46 | docelm0 | ahh.. Sorry you were not there.. It was a fricken blast. |
19:59.52 | infinity1 | sounds like it |
19:59.53 | Qwell[] | docelm0: Who were/are you? |
20:00.09 | docelm0 | was @ Astricon last week now @ Tampa, FL |
20:00.18 | Qwell[] | who, not where :P |
20:00.19 | WilliamK | when is Astricon 2006? |
20:00.28 | Qwell[] | WilliamK: said we should know by Nov 15 |
20:00.30 | docelm0 | ohh Brian Fertig |
20:01.11 | docelm0 | Qwell were you there? |
20:01.14 | Qwell[] | yep |
20:01.31 | docelm0 | You know I bet we met and didnt know it. |
20:01.43 | Qwell[] | docelm0: likely. I was hanging out with the IRC crowd most of the time |
20:01.44 | docelm0 | Have you been to the astricon photo gallery yet? |
20:01.53 | Qwell[] | I saw the first pictures on Monday |
20:01.56 | docelm0 | I am in there like 500 times |
20:01.57 | Qwell[] | thats it though |
20:02.01 | Qwell[] | got the link? |
20:02.02 | docelm0 | check it out now |
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20:02.07 | docelm0 | astri2005.netdr.biz |
20:02.36 | docelm0 | Astricon Photo Gallery is being hosted by NetDoctor Group, Inc. |
20:02.37 | docelm0 | :) |
20:03.04 | Juggie | only theres no pictures there |
20:03.08 | Juggie | or not enough |
20:03.17 | Juggie | because there are tons more |
20:03.19 | docelm0 | Jug, I have like 600 picutes.. |
20:03.30 | docelm0 | I just couldnt upload them there cause of the fricken bandwidth |
20:03.43 | Juggie | it wasnt that bad |
20:03.47 | Juggie | i noticed no bw problems |
20:03.53 | docelm0 | But I am gonna do an all call for more of them |
20:03.57 | docelm0 | When I tried to upload |
20:04.00 | docelm0 | download was good |
20:04.09 | Juggie | use a better gallery |
20:04.10 | Juggie | that one sucks |
20:04.12 | Juggie | horribly |
20:04.18 | docelm0 | Upload was like 20k if I was lucky |
20:04.21 | docelm0 | I am going to recode it. |
20:04.27 | docelm0 | sometime this or next week |
20:04.41 | Juggie | why recode it? |
20:04.42 | Juggie | http://gallery.menalto.com/ |
20:04.58 | docelm0 | Tried to install that.. Smarty kept crashing on me. |
20:05.38 | docelm0 | Im gonna customize this one out so anyone can upload to it and add comments and such |
20:05.45 | docelm0 | This is a basic shell of what I plan to do |
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20:06.14 | infinity1 | what is AMPortal? |
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20:06.31 | Juggie | wtf is smarty? |
20:06.52 | brookshire | it's a template engine for php |
20:06.53 | Juggie | a templat engine |
20:06.56 | Qwell[] | docelm0: 3623 |
20:06.57 | Juggie | why are you worrying about that |
20:07.03 | Juggie | just install gallery outside the engine |
20:07.05 | Qwell[] | I don't recall anybody taking a picture of me though, heh |
20:07.06 | docelm0 | 3623 what? |
20:07.17 | Qwell[] | img_ |
20:07.33 | docelm0 | That was Junk-Y |
20:07.39 | Qwell[] | ahh, thats right |
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20:07.49 | brookshire | omg.. never get drunk and decide to install gentoo |
20:07.52 | brookshire | heh |
20:07.55 | mog_home | lol |
20:07.57 | mog_home | brooks |
20:07.58 | InfraRed | freak |
20:07.59 | InfraRed | :) |
20:08.02 | Nugget | Linux is poo. |
20:08.06 | mog_home | if i had a nickle for every time i did that... |
20:08.12 | brookshire | i misspelled all my compile options |
20:08.19 | Qwell[] | docelm0: Where is you in there? |
20:08.26 | brookshire | so all night it was compiling for ppc |
20:08.26 | brookshire | haha |
20:08.32 | docelm0 | Look for Docelmo |
20:08.33 | Qwell[] | brookshire: Thats awesome |
20:08.34 | brookshire | and it's a pentium3 |
20:08.43 | Qwell[] | docelm0: ahh, okay |
20:08.44 | docelm0 | I am with damin a few times |
20:08.55 | Qwell[] | yeah, I saw you a bunch of times |
20:08.58 | kshumard_home | nicely done, brooks |
20:09.14 | brookshire | i know right? :) |
20:11.07 | brookshire | well at least it's replacing that fbsd install |
20:11.14 | brookshire | i hated fbsd.. heh |
20:11.43 | docelm0 | What can I say.. Im popular |
20:12.08 | infinity1 | why aren't there current debian packages for * ? ...does everyone like compiling? |
20:12.23 | Qwell[] | infinity1: it's better that way, really |
20:12.40 | infinity1 | Qwell[]: its a mega pain for someone that rarely does it :) |
20:12.56 | Qwell[] | it takes what, 5 minutes to compile? |
20:12.57 | infinity1 | i always have to re-learn it |
20:13.05 | brookshire | i like the debian package for zaptel |
20:13.08 | brookshire | you apt-get it |
20:13.14 | brookshire | and all it does is install the source code for you |
20:13.20 | Qwell[] | heh |
20:13.33 | infinity1 | my biggest complaint is when you compile and install *, it installs all kinds of stuff in /usr/bin etc. |
20:13.35 | Qwell[] | dpkg --compile zaptel |
20:13.39 | infinity1 | and not /usr/local/bin |
20:13.47 | Qwell[] | infinity1: You can change that... |
20:13.57 | infinity1 | Qwell[]: how? ...:) ... |
20:14.00 | Qwell[] | Makefile |
20:14.07 | infinity1 | hmmm ...i'll look. |
20:16.20 | nexis | is there any way to barge in on a call in progress? |
20:16.41 | mog_home | zapbarge |
20:16.43 | mog_home | and chan spy |
20:16.50 | fiber0pti | is it possible to get the status of a phone and utilize that information depending on what it is. Example: The user puts their phone status to "Out to lunch" and then have the dialplan use "Find me" functionality to go to the persons cell. |
20:17.16 | nexis | mog_home, chanspy is not aval in the cvs i grabbed for some reason. |
20:17.43 | brookshire | nexis: did you grab head? |
20:18.30 | Qwell[] | okay...when you walk away for a minute...don't immediately read the last line of text in the channel. ^^^ |
20:18.33 | nexis | brimstone, i dont play with cvs much, im more of a tar.gz guy, but i grabbed it with this. cvs checkout -r v1-0 asterisk blah |
20:18.48 | brimstone | ? |
20:19.02 | brimstone | nexis: that's stable by the way |
20:19.33 | nexis | ok, so i take it that chanspy is not in stable? |
20:19.36 | brookshire | chan spy is not in stable |
20:19.52 | brookshire | nexis: you can get 1.2 beta tar.gz from asterisk.org |
20:20.08 | brookshire | brim??? |
20:20.23 | nexis | sorry, typed b and hit tab. |
20:20.30 | brimstone | that's not the first time that someone's confused brimstone and brookshire |
20:20.37 | mog_home | lol |
20:20.40 | file | MATTS! |
20:20.45 | brookshire | and we're both named matt |
20:20.52 | nexis | is 1.2 beta half way stable? |
20:21.01 | brookshire | to add to the confusion |
20:21.02 | brookshire | lol |
20:21.02 | Qwell[] | nexis: Thats almost literally what it is |
20:21.05 | file | eep |
20:21.28 | nexis | ok, so ill try that. |
20:21.30 | brookshire | it hasn't crashed on me yet, but adding chanspy to the mix.. i dunno |
20:21.44 | nexis | ehh, whats the worst that can happen right? |
20:21.54 | brookshire | hey file, btw |
20:22.10 | nexis | also, has a LOT changed in the configs from 1.0 to 1.2, or can i use the same config files that i spent a few hours, and a lot of mt. dew writing? |
20:22.17 | infinity1 | Qwell[]: i see what i did last time. i used checkinstall to create a crappy package |
20:22.26 | Qwell[] | nexis: get some more Mt. Dew |
20:22.47 | Qwell[] | nexis: there is like UPGRADE.txt in there that tells you what changed |
20:22.51 | brookshire | hah... |
20:24.46 | nexis | thats good to know |
20:25.02 | nexis | to grab the 1.2 from cvs, i just drop -r v1-0 correct? |
20:25.13 | infinity1 | rofl. i like how the changelog jumps from 1.0.10 to 1.2.0 |
20:25.20 | brookshire | cvs co asterisk |
20:25.21 | brookshire | :) |
20:25.24 | nexis | k |
20:25.27 | Qwell[] | infinity1: because thats exactly what happened... |
20:25.54 | brookshire | wow.. they updated it |
20:25.57 | brookshire | heh |
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20:26.06 | brookshire | it was like 1.0.3 to 1.2 |
20:26.30 | infinity1 | Qwell[]: yes. that is true. |
20:26.50 | Qwell[] | didn't think they released 1.0.10 though |
20:26.52 | infinity1 | Qwell[]: i think you get my point though. |
20:26.54 | nexis | you know, in playin with asterisk more and more, i realise that i place i worked for used it i think. |
20:27.00 | Qwell[] | infinity1: not really |
20:27.16 | Icemaann | in v1.2 im using Set(GROUP()=MYGROUP), and GROUP_COUNT(MYGROUP) is returning 0, is the 1st count 0 not 1? |
20:27.58 | infinity1 | Qwell[]: scrolld own the changelog to asterisk .4.0. that kind of text would have been nice between 1.0.10 and 1.2, but there was never a version |
20:28.12 | Qwell[] | infinity1: link? |
20:28.20 | infinity1 | ChangeLog in cvs |
20:28.35 | brookshire | is there a 1.0.10? |
20:28.37 | brookshire | heh |
20:28.49 | brookshire | i guess that would be stable cvs |
20:28.54 | infinity1 | so the fact that there was never a version, makes it a little too convenient :) |
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20:29.13 | docelm0 | ARGH! REGISTERFLY SUCKS! |
20:29.32 | infinity1 | so does HEAD still exist? or has it been renamed to beta1? |
20:29.42 | docelm0 | As far as I know its still around |
20:29.43 | Qwell[] | infinity1: HEAD is still HEAD |
20:29.49 | docelm0 | Beta1 is 1.2 stable |
20:29.59 | Qwell[] | "HEAD" is just the most current version in CVS |
20:30.18 | Qwell[] | Thats a CVS thing..not really something the Asterisk devs decided on |
20:31.23 | infinity1 | anyone running a recent HEAD? is it okay? |
20:32.04 | docelm0 | I am |
20:32.06 | docelm0 | runs fine |
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20:34.21 | supaigtr | Hello. |
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20:41.33 | docelm0 | ahh well.. Im off for a bit.. going to recode the site.. :) |
20:43.03 | infinity1 | Qwell[]: this doesn't make sense.... can you help me out? |
20:43.10 | infinity1 | in the makefile, ASTLIBDIR=$(INSTALL_PREFIX)/usr/lib/asterisk |
20:43.29 | infinity1 | so if INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/local, i'll get stuff in /usr/local/usr/lib/asterks? |
20:43.32 | infinity1 | that doesn't make sense. |
20:43.50 | Qwell[] | then change it to $(INSTALL_PREFIX)/usr/local/lib/asterisk |
20:44.04 | Qwell[] | no, I don't know |
20:44.10 | Qwell[] | that would probably work |
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20:44.46 | infinity1 | i remember looking at it last time. it doesn't seem to have any logic. |
20:45.57 | supaigtr | Anyone using ser in front of *? Or have ser working on basic level? |
20:46.22 | infinity1 | supaigtr: yea. my old may build of head :) |
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20:47.51 | supaigtr | infinity1: ser or openser? |
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20:55.51 | supaigtr | infinity1: Any pointers on maxfwd and what it is in relation to a sipura getting the 483 message (too many hops)? |
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20:59.05 | nexis | anyone had any problems with cvs head puking out on editline? |
21:05.09 | brookshire | search the bug tracker |
21:05.19 | brookshire | http://bugs.digium.com |
21:09.20 | nexis | yea, old version of libc6 |
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21:14.54 | supaigtr | Any ser gurus around? |
21:20.00 | docelm0 | maybe |
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21:22.06 | supaigtr | :) I having troubles with openser and domains. Getting a loop. But I havn't figured out debugging yet. |
21:24.29 | docelm0 | ohh I dont knwo it that much.. I just wrote some code in it to pass it on to asterisk |
21:24.33 | docelm0 | for load balancing |
21:26.13 | supaigtr | I'm just trying to get it to register. |
21:27.46 | SplasPood | Question for you all... I have a PRI plugged into zaptel hardware and when I dial out on any of the channels I connect to what sounds like a modem... Any thoughts? |
21:30.13 | pooh_ | Hi Guys, is there any way to dynamically change sip or iax conf entries ? |
21:30.57 | pooh_ | not using realtime but variables (or changing variables) ? |
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21:32.40 | docelm0 | hay Qwell got the new gallery running |
21:33.27 | Qwell[] | any new stuff uploaded? |
21:34.25 | Qwell[] | looks exactly the same |
21:35.56 | docelm0 | Not there.. somewhere else.. working out bugs right now |
21:38.36 | docelm0 | hay Q how do I make it so users can comment on this thing? I cant find it anywhere |
21:38.52 | Qwell[] | got me...I don't use gallery |
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21:39.01 | Vlat | hi |
21:39.13 | Error_X | What ports does IAX2 runs on? |
21:43.49 | docelm0 | CHECK THE WIKI! OR IAX2.CONF! |
21:44.21 | docelm0 | dont ask lame questions without consulting: WIKI, Goodgle, Userlists.. If all else fails.. come here |
21:45.17 | ariel_ | Error_X, 4569 |
21:52.47 | Vlat | who was on the latest Astricon ? |
21:55.00 | snitt | #astricon |
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21:55.14 | iq | hi |
21:55.24 | Vlat | hi |
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22:00.54 | docelm0 | To all who is avlie.. Gallery2 is online.. check it out.. http://astri2005.netdr.biz |
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22:06.26 | infinity1 | just upgraded to latest head |
22:06.30 | infinity1 | fingers crossed |
22:08.10 | ManxPower | infinity1, be afraid, be very afraid. |
22:09.23 | ManxPower | In a little while i'll be uploading hires photos of my house and waveland MS after Katrina |
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22:11.50 | infinity1 | hah. something already doesn't work as it use to . |
22:12.16 | ManxPower | infinity1, there are 2 bugs that I know of. |
22:12.47 | ManxPower | priorityjumping is off by default (it should be on by default) and enum lookups now REQUIRE a + prefix |
22:12.48 | infinity1 | ManxPower: please tell me |
22:13.29 | infinity1 | prio jumping. hmm ..i think thats the one i may have experienced. |
22:13.43 | infinity1 | i dont use enum |
22:13.54 | ManxPower | infinity1, look at extensions.conf.sample in the astrisk source DIr and also UPGRADE.txt in the asterisk source dir |
22:14.06 | infinity1 | ManxPower: isn't there an option in a conf file for prio jumping? |
22:14.50 | ManxPower | infinity1, that's why I referred you to extensions.conf.sample |
22:15.33 | ManxPower | I never use priority jumping eve in 1.0.x so I didn't notice that problem right away |
22:16.33 | infinity1 | ManxPower: hmmm ..sounds like they are going to change it to no by default in the future? |
22:17.12 | ManxPower | infinity1, I would assume yes for POST 1.2 |
22:18.03 | infinity1 | ah |
22:18.13 | infinity1 | lets see what happens now. i added it to my extensions.conf |
22:19.48 | infinity1 | hmm ...didn't solve it. i'll dig around. i haven't messed with * in months. i'm very rusty. once it worked ...i just had to reload the zap modules every few months. |
22:20.08 | infinity1 | ..hopefully that problem went away. |
22:21.05 | infinity1 | ...when calling into the zap interface, it says another zap interface is calling instead of the outside line. |
22:21.11 | infinity1 | odd |
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22:47.57 | nexis | why would music on hold fade out if the party on hold is silent, like if they mute, the music on hold stops. |
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22:56.14 | spiekey | hello! |
22:56.45 | spiekey | anyone here with a german isdn setup? ;) |
22:57.02 | spiekey | i would like to put a asterisk box between my "Amt" and my TK |
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22:58.42 | docelm0 | Can anyone say fun with images? |
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23:00.51 | JustinG | hi, anyone willing to help a frustrated fellow with a IAXlite/asterisk setup? |
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23:06.56 | Vlat | a question: why do the people choice IAX, not SIP ? |
23:07.48 | kshumard_home | Vlat, smaller headers = less bandwidth, no nat problems, simpler to implement |
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23:09.21 | Vlat | kshumard_home: and the sip nasty features like call hold, transfer, redirect ? |
23:09.58 | kshumard_home | iax can do pretty much all of those as well |
23:11.40 | Vlat | kshumard_home: any IAX supported hardware ? I'm asking just for know, shall I test IAX in our network or not |
23:11.45 | spiekey | whats "TK-Anlage" in english? |
23:11.53 | spiekey | or "Amt"? ;) |
23:12.53 | kshumard_home | Digium sells the IAXy, an ATA which speaks IAX |
23:13.11 | ManxPower | IAX is mostly used for Server-server stuff |
23:13.14 | kshumard_home | other than that, any box running asterisk can do iax, and there are several softphones like iaxcomm, diax, etc |
23:13.27 | Vlat | kshumard_home: the only thing i'm afraid for is the syncronization. Since IAX encapsulate RTP & Signalling in one port, it become the...hm...in-band coding isn't the proper definition for it |
23:13.41 | Vlat | but the packet loss can vary the RTP IMHO |
23:13.56 | kshumard_home | Vlat, iax doesn't use RTP |
23:14.13 | kshumard_home | Vlat, it carries signalling and media both on the iax2 protocol, UDP port 4569 |
23:14.19 | kshumard_home | that's why it's nat-friendly |
23:16.21 | spiekey | whats a BRI card good for? i somehow cant find any basic documentation about it. |
23:16.33 | Vlat | kshumard_home: another question. Is Asterisk is ready for a large-scale deployment ? I mean 1000+ customers at dual Xenon as primary gw |
23:16.38 | Igbothom_III | BRI - ISDN |
23:16.59 | spiekey | ah! |
23:17.16 | Igbothom_III | each BRI line gives 2 phone lines |
23:17.17 | Vlat | kshumard_home: only sip, just routing, no rtp bypass, + media-backend features |
23:18.10 | kshumard_home | Vlat, you might look into SER |
23:18.18 | Vlat | Xenon-Xeon |
23:18.25 | kshumard_home | Vlat, SER + asterisk is being used by several people for large-scale sip networks |
23:18.31 | Vlat | kshumard_home: currently I'm using SER+asterisk :) |
23:18.37 | spiekey | Igbothom_III: so a setup could look like this: telephone provider --> BRI/ISDN(asterisk)analog card --> phones ?! |
23:18.37 | Igbothom_III | kshumard_home; SER runs on *? or with *? |
23:18.39 | kshumard_home | haha, alright |
23:18.42 | Vlat | kshumard_home: SER as router, asterisk as backend |
23:18.42 | distortion | kshumard_home: so you're saying by definition because voice goes over the same port in iax that its not "rtp |
23:18.45 | distortion | ? |
23:18.51 | Igbothom_III | BRI isn't analog, it is digital |
23:19.00 | Vlat | kshumard_home: but ser's config messes my brain up :) |
23:19.15 | kshumard_home | rtp is an ietf protocol which specifies how to carry a realtime media stream. It's one way of doing it |
23:19.19 | kshumard_home | iax doesn't use it |
23:19.36 | kshumard_home | iax carries its own media stream. So iax is a replacement for sip, and iax is also a replacement for rtp |
23:19.39 | Igbothom_III | like IAX doesn't use smtp - another protocol available |
23:19.39 | kshumard_home | it does both |
23:20.17 | kshumard_home | Vlat, I've never used SER, don't know much about it... just that it's the de facto choice for large scale asterisk + sip systems |
23:20.22 | spiekey | Igbothom_III: well, yes. But it comes to my house digital, then i connect it to my bri card in my asterisk box, right?! |
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23:20.39 | Katty | mew. |
23:20.50 | spiekey | from there i can use one of Digiums analog cards to connect my analog phones. |
23:20.55 | spiekey | correct?! |
23:21.03 | Igbothom_III | ok - Telco---------BRI Card---*---IP Phones |
23:21.21 | Vlat | kshumard_home: we had tried *, it sucked at 300 clients. so it's the way we choiced * as m-back. I just wanted to know maybe the things imporved. :) |
23:21.23 | kshumard_home | spiekey, yeah, that would work |
23:21.27 | Igbothom_III | spiekey; yes, if you have some FXS ports, you can connect regular phones to the * server |
23:21.28 | spiekey | thanks! |
23:22.00 | Igbothom_III | or buy IP Phones, preferably with IAX support :) |
23:22.30 | Katty | anyone work in robotics? |
23:22.51 | kshumard_home | I watched I, Robot last night.... : ) |
23:22.58 | Katty | not quite the same. |
23:23.09 | kshumard_home | oh. sorry. : ( |
23:24.08 | Katty | twisted: stop spreading germs. |
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23:25.00 | Katty | twisted: the flat peoples won't let me have a kitty, so i'm going to build one. |
23:25.32 | twisted | build a flat? or a kitty? |
23:25.41 | Vlat | I, Robot..hm... 2 day ago i read back Azimov memories. He wrote (in 1956) that several years later there'll be a global communication network, that will change the life of million people. There'll be such definition as remote-work, the people won't have to close each other to share the problemms, etc... |
23:25.52 | Vlat | and all it in 1956 |
23:26.07 | Katty | twisted: a kitty, obviously. like Necoro |
23:26.22 | twisted | ahh |
23:26.26 | twisted | cool |
23:26.49 | kshumard_home | I was surprised how different the movie was than the book.... it didn't even say "based on the I. Asimov book". They had to say "suggested by" |
23:26.54 | Katty | must go to radio shack |
23:27.11 | Vlat | kshumard_home: Hollywood crap |
23:27.29 | spiekey | i have a normal telephone setup right now which looks like this: Telco --> TK --> ISDN-Phones. |
23:27.42 | Vlat | "make it understandable to everyone, even if he/she have IQ 10) |
23:27.55 | spiekey | and if i want to put Asterisk between it all it would look like this?! Telco --> BRI |
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23:28.06 | kshumard_home | Vlat, yeah, even a robot could understand it. ; ) |
23:28.06 | spiekey | and if i want to put Asterisk between it all it would look like this?! Telco --> BRI*BRI --> ISDN-Phones ?! |
23:28.39 | Vlat | kshumard_home: if the robot read i,robot it mean the robot read i,robot...so endless recursion :) |
23:29.00 | spiekey | i would have to configure asterisk with two "interfaces", therefore * sits between it all.?! |
23:29.44 | kshumard_home | haha |
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23:31.14 | nexis | why would music on hold fade out if the party on hold is silent, like if they mute, the music on hold stops. |
23:31.17 | Igbothom_III | spiekey; dunno if you can plug ISDN phones into * - didn't know there WERE ISDN phones, actually, it usually presents as 2 * analog interfaces if you have a box on the wall - Bri goes in, 2 * analog comes out |
23:31.28 | Katty | twisted: looks like building a robotic kitty is going to cost me about 2000 |
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23:32.01 | Katty | twisted: mew :< |
23:32.35 | docelm0 | KATTY! |
23:32.51 | twisted | Katty, :( |
23:33.08 | Katty | docelm0: what? |
23:33.16 | docelm0 | nothing.. Just hola.. |
23:33.39 | Katty | hi. |
23:34.01 | Vlat | nexis: vad ? |
23:34.33 | nexis | Vlat, vad? |
23:34.53 | kshumard_home | vad: vad? |
23:34.55 | kshumard_home | : ) |
23:34.57 | Vlat | voice activity detection |
23:35.14 | nexis | dont think so, let me check |
23:35.19 | kshumard_home | nexis, turn off silence suppression on the phone if it's an option |
23:35.26 | spiekey | Igbothom_III: the thing is, that i have a telephone setup here, and all i want to do is to put asterisk between it, to make the migration easier. But i have trouble understanding "where" the call comes in an out again, through asterisk. |
23:35.30 | nexis | it was doing it in stable, and still doing it in dev |
23:35.34 | spiekey | and what cards i need for that |
23:35.43 | Vlat | hm, yes...SS on non-cisco equipment :)))) |
23:35.52 | spiekey | is there no documentation about it? |
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23:36.10 | nexis | vad is off |
23:36.42 | nexis | kshumard_home, tried on all 3 of my ATAs, and both of my outgoing trunks, still doin it. |
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23:40.51 | Vlat | nexis: MOH is mp3 ? |
23:40.56 | Igbothom_III | spiekey; Asterisk is SERIOUSLY lacking in documentation for pretty much every aspect of it |
23:41.04 | spiekey | hehe |
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23:41.07 | nexis | Vlat, correct |
23:41.10 | ManxPower | nexis, the call comes into the context in extensions.conf that is defined in zaptel.conf (assuming the call is coming in via Zap) |
23:41.19 | Igbothom_III | ok, let's go step-by-step :) |
23:41.27 | ManxPower | zaptel.conf contexts have NOTHING to do with outgoing calls |
23:41.29 | Igbothom_III | 1. ISDN - does it go to a box on the wall? |
23:41.45 | spiekey | Igbothom_III: yes |
23:41.47 | Vlat | nexis: mpg123 59r + silencesuppression=no in phone.conf |
23:41.56 | Igbothom_III | cool - and does this have 2 * phone ports on it? |
23:41.58 | PMantis | Anyone solve this issue with iaxcomm ? "./iaxcomm: error while loading shared libraries: libtiff.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
23:42.22 | ManxPower | PMantis, no, but the error is pretty obvious |
23:42.24 | PMantis | libtiff.so.4 exists, creating a symlink doesn't help |
23:42.27 | nexis | Vlat, thats what i have. |
23:42.35 | spiekey | Igbothom_III: yes, you _could_ plug in 2 ISDN phones there. |
23:42.39 | ManxPower | PMantis, you didn't build from source. |
23:42.43 | nexis | PMantis, what distro? |
23:42.54 | Igbothom_III | ISDN phones? Sure they are not regular analog phones? |
23:43.07 | PMantis | ManxPower, Right, I found no source archive. :( |
23:43.12 | Vlat | nexis: the thing going interesing...silencesuppression=yes? what would be the result ? |
23:43.18 | PMantis | nexis, Ubuntu AMD64 |
23:43.26 | Igbothom_III | that's what I've seen with BRI - Telco ---- NT1/NT2 == analog phone ports |
23:43.28 | nexis | PMantis, apt-cache search libtiff |
23:43.32 | Vlat | btw, google say a lot about your problem |
23:43.40 | nexis | should come up with libtiff4 or something, apt-get install it |
23:43.41 | Vlat | asterisk+vad |
23:44.01 | Katty | twisted: the hard part is going to be making it not run into things. if front left whisker is on, stop, go backwards 2 feet, turn right, continue |
23:44.16 | nexis | Vlat, ok, ill look into it some more, not that its really a problem, i may just ice the music on hold. |
23:44.48 | Katty | twisted: do you have a drill press or a band saw i can borrow? |
23:44.49 | spiekey | Igbothom_III: the line comes in from the provider and goes into a splitter, where it seperates ISDN and DSL |
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23:44.52 | Vlat | nexis: never used it really, to be honest. it eat my bandwidth |
23:45.00 | Vlat | and nervous for users |
23:45.01 | PMantis | nexis, libtiff 4 is installed. I created a symlink for libtiff.so.3, didn't help |
23:45.22 | ManxPower | PMantis, I doubt creating a symlink between major versions will help. |
23:45.31 | ManxPower | BUt, did you run ldconfig after you did the symlink/ |
23:45.37 | spiekey | then the isdn cable goes to a box where i could plug two isdn phone in. But in my case there is only one big telephone box pluged in. |
23:45.52 | nexis | PMantis, is there a site like with debian for ubuntu? |
23:46.01 | ManxPower | spiekey, ISDN phones use ISDN PRI. Telephone systems frequently use ISDN PRI |
23:46.03 | spiekey | and on that "big" telephone box, there are 5-8 analog phones plugged in. |
23:46.14 | PMantis | ManxPower, Hmmm, no idn't run that |
23:46.16 | Igbothom_III | ok - never seen it done this way - here in australyamate we have a box that breaks the BRI into 2 * POTS (analog) ports |
23:46.18 | ManxPower | Lets try that again |
23:46.22 | ManxPower | spiekey, ISDN phones use ISDN BRI. Telephone systems frequently use ISDN PRI |
23:46.25 | Igbothom_III | so, 1 BRI gives 2 * POTS lines |
23:46.28 | ManxPower | BRI is totally different from PRI |
23:46.38 | Igbothom_III | yes |
23:46.44 | ManxPower | BRI can handle two calls, PRI can handle 23 or 30 calls |
23:46.53 | spiekey | i think i have BRI |
23:46.54 | Igbothom_III | PRI is digital all the way, BRI isn't necessarily |
23:47.03 | ManxPower | Igbothom_III, that is incorrect. |
23:47.08 | Igbothom_III | PRI can handle 10, 20, 30 here in Australyamate |
23:47.09 | Vlat | the "big telephone box" is the PRI router/splitter ? |
23:47.33 | ManxPower | ISDN (PRI OR BRI) is always digital to the local phone switch, from there you never know. |
23:47.43 | Igbothom_III | fair enough |
23:48.04 | spiekey | Vlat: "the big telephone box" is the box where you can set up the msns and scheduled calls/rules, etc... |
23:48.14 | Igbothom_III | what I SHOULD have said is, what I'm used to is BRI breaking into 2 * Analog, and PRI being delivered digitally direct into a PABX |
23:48.16 | Igbothom_III | :) |
23:48.20 | PMantis | nexis, Ubuntu.com? Yeah. Ubuntu is also based on debian. |
23:48.28 | ManxPower | spiekey, until you know the version of ISDN your PBX uses, you are wasting your time. |
23:48.34 | Igbothom_III | exactly |
23:48.44 | ManxPower | you can't even know what interface card you need for Asterisk until you know if it's BRI or PRI |
23:48.49 | Vlat | i just didn't get a glue :) i have a big telephone box at my table, it's the laaarge siemens phone :) |
23:48.57 | spiekey | i am 99% sure its BRI! |
23:49.09 | Igbothom_III | that;s 99% good enough :) |
23:49.17 | ManxPower | spiekey, no Digium card supports BRI |
23:49.53 | PMantis | nexis, Oh, WOW... I just found a deb for iaxcomm.. |
23:50.16 | spiekey | ManxPower: wasnt there a 8-Port card for Bri? |
23:50.23 | ManxPower | spiekey, not from digium. |
23:50.29 | Igbothom_III | yeah, but not a Digium card |
23:50.34 | ManxPower | OctoBRI is from Kapejob's company |
23:50.52 | Katty | you know, i wonder what you oculd use an asterisk robot for |
23:51.00 | Igbothom_III | beroNET have some as well |
23:51.06 | Katty | i guess it would sorta have to be stationary. |
23:51.14 | Igbothom_III | a paper robot? |
23:51.17 | X-Rob | spiekey - you want chan_capi and bristuff |
23:51.32 | Katty | Igbothom_III: no. i'm trying to find some use for asterisk on a robot |
23:51.32 | spiekey | sounds reasonable |
23:51.42 | Katty | Igbothom_III: other than having the robot do something based on an incoming call. |
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23:51.58 | Katty | Igbothom_III: but even if it did, what would the robot do? |
23:51.58 | Igbothom_III | distinctive dances? |
23:52.10 | Katty | Igbothom_III: locate the person by gps? |
23:52.19 | Katty | it seems silly. |
23:52.22 | Igbothom_III | yes |
23:52.45 | BrianR___ | is there any way to make asterisk change its codec negotiation preference order based on the peer's IP address being or not being on a particular list of subnets? |
23:52.48 | Katty | i find it silly to have a robot track a person's GPS just because they get a call |
23:53.22 | spiekey | so i come from my provider via my dsl/isdn splitter into my *, from there i go via the 8-Port BRI card. correct? |
23:53.23 | Katty | my kitty must have some useful purrpoise though |
23:53.44 | Katty | maybe it can function as a speakerphone. |
23:54.20 | kshumard_home | BrianR___, You could define different peers for different subnets, each with its own codec preferences... |
23:55.10 | Katty | hmm, text to speech posibilities. |
23:55.28 | Vlat | text2speech is FESTIVAL |
23:55.30 | Katty | callerid reading mobile kitty? |
23:55.37 | kshumard_home | or would that be text to meow? |
23:55.54 | Katty | kshumard_home: i think i'd rather have my robotic cat talking than meowing all the time |
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23:56.01 | Katty | kshumard_home: would simply be more useful. |
23:56.07 | mooh_ | hi adepts |
23:56.28 | kshumard_home | I don't know, though.... having a robotic cat talk to me might creep me out a bit |
23:56.34 | spiekey | has someone got me a link for a 8 port bri card? |
23:56.42 | Vlat | Oh, there's mooh_! The biggest asterisk adept :) |
23:56.56 | Katty | kshumard_home: making the cat seem life like is going to be difficult. while using sensors can keep you from running into things...i'm not sure how to put a wireless reciever on it and then make it say whatever the callerid is |
23:57.03 | mooh_ | jo Vlat! |
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23:57.19 | skrewtape | <PROTECTED> |
23:57.26 | skrewtape | I was happy with broadvoice last year but they no longer have a presence in the area code I want to use. my needs are (206) and dialin from (310) and (818) |
23:57.29 | Katty | kshumard_home: yes, but you could make it do all sorts of things with text to speech |
23:57.32 | skrewtape | anyone awake that has opinions on the matter? |
23:57.44 | Katty | kshumard_home: temperature sensors, motion sensors,... |
23:57.52 | Vlat | spiekey: www.ipgw.net |
23:57.56 | kshumard_home | Katty, It would be really amazing if you could make it do meow to speech. : ) |
23:57.58 | Katty | kshumard_home: it could follow you around based on motion sensors. |
23:58.07 | kshumard_home | haha, a robo-stalker kitty?? |
23:58.13 | Katty | why not? |
23:58.14 | skrewtape | you'd just hear 'feed me pet me love me' |
23:58.21 | skrewtape | over and over |
23:58.29 | skrewtape | re: meow to speech |
23:58.31 | kshumard_home | like a neopet you don't have to carry |
23:58.36 | Katty | there's also video modules in robotics |
23:58.38 | Vlat | kshumard_home: it would like 'MiU' |
23:58.39 | kshumard_home | or whatever those things were called |
23:58.44 | skrewtape | well depends on the laziness of the cat |
23:58.55 | Vlat | kshumard_home: or M e o Ou :) |
23:58.55 | Katty | but how do you really turn a robotic cat into a phone? |
23:58.57 | Katty | oh god. |
23:59.01 | Katty | a cat phone |
23:59.12 | Katty | a robotic cat phone! talk to your cat and it functions as the phone |
23:59.19 | skrewtape | anyone? business voip providers in US that don't suck? |
23:59.19 | kshumard_home | haha, you'd have bandwidth concerns because of course it could only speak mu-law. ; ) |
23:59.22 | Katty | and the cat could follow you around based on motion sensors |
23:59.25 | Katty | and be your MOTHER |
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23:59.33 | hardwire | aww |
23:59.37 | hardwire | I missed astricon |
23:59.49 | Katty | that shall be my project |
23:59.57 | Katty | a robotic cat which functions as a wireless phone |
23:59.59 | spiekey | Vlat: cant read that language :P |