irclog2html for #asterisk on 20050809

`00:00.46`	`Beccara`	`does anyone know why when i try to compile asterisk i keep getting build erros for chan_zap.o ?`
`00:01.08`	`Beccara`	`i get a screen full of " dereferencing pointer to incomplete type"`
`00:02.04`	`hardwire`	`oh god`
`00:02.33`	`hardwire`	`http://voip001.corp.tdxnet.com/Herb%20Alpert%20-%20Spanish%20Flea.ogg`
`00:02.36`	`hardwire`	`nice.`
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`00:05.03`	`astoria`	`Can someone please tell me the correct OUtput voltage for an IP300?`
`00:05.27`	`astoria`	`i can't find it anywhere on google.`
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`00:07.01`	`opus_`	`is there a way to check out cvs head from a week ago?`
`00:07.18`	`opus_`	`astoria - 12v`
`00:07.36`	`DarthClue`	`opus_: yes, and it is documented on the wiki ... would you like to know more?`
`00:07.37`	`astoria`	`opus_: how many amps?`
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`00:07.52`	`opus_`	`astoria - uhh... try 300ma`
`00:07.58`	`opus_`	`darthclue - thanks for the fish`
`00:08.00`	`astoria`	`opus_: are you usre about that?`
`00:08.10`	`astoria`	`sure`
`00:08.11`	`opus_`	`yup. actually 500ma`
`00:08.11`	`Delta34`	`can anybody recommend a wireless sip phone that works well with asterisk?`
`00:08.11`	`hardwire`	`when doing like.. as good quality as possible voice recordings for prompts.. should you just directly record to 8000hz?`
`00:08.13`	`JerJer`	`cvs co -D 'one week ago' asterisk`
`00:08.33`	`opus_`	`if its not scottish its SHEIT!`
`00:08.41`	`BhaalWK`	`Hrm, odd... Either a server or someone seems to have opped my home nick...`
`00:08.51`	`JerJer`	`Irish`
`00:09.13`	`JerJer`	`hardwire: yes -- 8000hz 16 bit mono`
`00:09.22`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: ok..`
`00:09.28`	`DarthClue`	`BhaalWK: that is what is called a typo. be happy and just don't mention it or they will take it away.`
`00:09.30`	`JerJer`	`any digital conversion is going to lead to quantization errors`
`00:09.41`	`hardwire`	`so recording them to 48khz awesome quality to archive them would be lunacy?`
`00:09.51`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o BhaalWK] by BhaalWK`
`00:09.52`	`BhaalWK`	`:)`
`00:09.55`	`hardwire`	`just to rerender them as 8000hz`
`00:09.57`	`*** mode/#asterisk [-o BhaalWK] by BhaalWK`
`00:10.05`	`JerJer`	`if you never intend to use those prompts anywhere else`
`00:10.08`	`JerJer`	`only on the phone`
`00:10.15`	`hardwire`	`I have no idea how I would.`
`00:10.21`	`JerJer`	`yeah`
`00:10.22`	`hardwire`	`but what if.. tomorrow.. wideband asterisk comes out :)`
`00:10.38`	`JerJer`	`i have allison record everything in 8000hz 16bit mono`
`00:10.39`	`opus_`	`yeah that would rock, then i could fax shit`
`00:10.57`	`JerJer`	`hardwire: lots of prompts would have to get re-recorded?`
`00:10.58`	`BhaalWK`	`DarthClue: It doesnt bother me whether its there or not, was just curious how it came to be...`
`00:11.01`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: hmm.. I want to actually ask about that.. whats the recording room like?`
`00:11.19`	`JerJer`	`sound proof room`
`00:11.20`	`JerJer`	`mixer`
`00:11.22`	`JerJer`	`microphone`
`00:11.26`	`JerJer`	`recording device`
`00:11.28`	`hardwire`	`all that for phone quality audio :)`
`00:11.29`	`JerJer`	`cables`
`00:11.34`	`JerJer`	`chair`
`00:11.37`	`JerJer`	`carpet`
`00:11.42`	`hardwire`	`nice`
`00:11.43`	`JerJer`	`studs`
`00:11.44`	`hardwire`	`carpet`
`00:11.46`	`JerJer`	`drywall`
`00:11.49`	`JerJer`	`nails`
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`00:11.53`	`hardwire`	`any pictures?`
`00:11.58`	`shido6`	`i feel like im in sims and a room is loading`
`00:12.01`	`hardwire`	`does she have a spittle guard`
`00:12.02`	`Nivex`	`* JerJer has quit (Excess Flood)`
`00:12.12`	`hardwire`	`shido6: :)`
`00:12.48`	`shido6`	`dont spit into the mic?`
`00:12.49`	`hardwire`	`like.. whats the standard frequency responses for most headsets.. stuff like that`
`00:12.55`	`hardwire`	`I don't want to get darth vader to do them.. I know that much`
`00:13.06`	`JerJer`	`hardwire: i haven't seen any pics of Allison's studio, but I have a tiny bit of experience with audio and video production`
`00:13.21`	`JerJer`	`20hz-20khz`
`00:13.29`	`shido6`	`tiny my ass, jerjer is a part time music producer`
`00:13.33`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: I do as well.. but if I have to wonder if she just records them at home off of a Cisco IP phone or something :)`
`00:13.35`	`Katty`	`Hmmhesays: this cd is nummy.`
`00:13.37`	`malandro`	`hi does anyone knows how to make a callshop billing?`
`00:13.51`	`JerJer`	`hardwire: no she has a pretty kick ass studio, i'm sure`
`00:13.55`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: I doubt james earl jones is 20hz :)`
`00:14.02`	`DarthClue`	`which cd?`
`00:14.05`	`JerJer`	`she even can do like ISDN audio`
`00:14.09`	`Katty`	`DarthClue: hot action cop`
`00:14.13`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: you are happy with her prompts?`
`00:14.26`	`JerJer`	`hardwire: oh yeah - for a while there we had her on the payroll`
`00:14.27`	`hardwire`	`the mofos here at the office want one of the native shareholders to record the prompts`
`00:14.35`	`hardwire`	`I would rather have the sexy guirl here with the amazing voice do it`
`00:14.43`	`hardwire`	`but.. I don't always get what I want.`
`00:14.47`	`DarthClue`	`bah, wasn't really getting into that earlier, maybe he'll have to let me 'preview' it to see if i like it.`
`00:14.48`	`JerJer`	`exactly`
`00:14.54`	`hardwire`	`so now I have to deal with a guy that barely speaks english to do it`
`00:14.55`	`JerJer`	`and the audio quality may not be as good`
`00:15.01`	`Katty`	`I see.`
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`00:15.15`	`hardwire`	`hrmm`
`00:15.27`	`hardwire`	`what about pad times for prompts.`
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`00:15.31`	`JerJer`	`i've laughed at soo many self-recorded prompts`
`00:15.32`	`astoria`	`Who told me the IP300 uses 300mA????`
`00:15.37`	`hardwire`	`50usec?`
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`00:15.46`	`astoria`	`I found my plug at it's 800mA.. Good thing I didn't listen to you! ;)`
`00:16.01`	`JerJer`	`one particularly bad one had other people talking in the background :)`
`00:16.09`	`hardwire`	`astoria: yah.. otherwise it would have.. just.. not .. gone anywhere :)`
`00:16.22`	`JerJer`	`i just build up a script for Allison and have her record one big phat file`
`00:16.22`	`hardwire`	`undercurrent is the leading cause of things just plain not working (tm)`
`00:16.31`	`JerJer`	`then i'll do the editing on my mac`
`00:16.39`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: gotcha`
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`00:16.50`	`hardwire`	`so`
`00:17.06`	`JerJer`	`astoria: i think he said 300 amps`
`00:17.21`	`hardwire`	`what you are saying is .. find a sealed room.. get a good mic in there.. a little mood lighting.. and spend a few hours with an ancient native alaskan vs the hottie down the hall..`
`00:17.23`	`hardwire`	`gotcha`
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`00:17.41`	`astoria`	`JerJer: then i would have burned the house down..`
`00:17.48`	`hardwire`	`just the phone`
`00:18.04`	`JerJer`	`you need to deaden the sound in the room as well`
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`00:18.14`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: like with a gun?`
`00:18.17`	`JerJer`	`like with foam or a mattress or something`
`00:18.18`	`hardwire`	`:)`
`00:18.20`	`hardwire`	`man is it monday.`
`00:18.30`	`BhaalWK`	`Tue Aug 9 10:18:24 EST 2005`
`00:18.32`	`BhaalWK`	`Tuesday`
`00:18.33`	`BhaalWK`	`:)`
`00:18.39`	`Sedorox`	`0_o`
`00:18.40`	`hardwire`	`hah`
`00:18.43`	`JerJer`	`wrong side of the rock :)`
`00:18.49`	`Sedorox`	`no`
`00:18.51`	`Sedorox`	`EST....`
`00:18.55`	`Sedorox`	`your a day off`
`00:19.01`	`BhaalWK`	`tis AEST`
`00:19.06`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: I will just go get a motorcycle helmet and a clip on mic.`
`00:19.08`	`Sedorox`	`mmm ok`
`00:19.09`	`hardwire`	`there`
`00:19.13`	`hardwire`	`personal sound recording studio`
`00:19.37`	`JerJer`	`the room accustics are still going to play its part`
`00:19.49`	`JerJer`	`and you really need a good vocal mic - SM58 at the very least`
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`00:20.02`	`ayano`	`hey hey hey`
`00:20.09`	`JerJer`	`and yes, with some sort of spit guard`
`00:20.28`	`JerJer`	`which in reality removes the breathing noise`
`00:20.31`	`BhaalWK`	`My office at home is also my studio for a radio show... The acoustics arent overly bad, very little echo..`
`00:20.57`	`hardwire`	`JerJer: damnit`
`00:21.08`	`hardwire`	`I was hoping to just slap a headset on this snom phone and have him go to town :)`
`00:21.11`	`denon`	`a seinnheiser e602 works pretty ell`
`00:21.14`	`denon`	`well`
`00:21.18`	`JerJer`	`perhaps bring in a blanket and hang it on the wall behind the user`
`00:21.22`	`JerJer`	`er`
`00:21.23`	`JerJer`	`speaker`
`00:21.27`	`JerJer`	`talker`
`00:21.33`	`denon`	`or an MD421`
`00:21.54`	`JerJer`	`denon: now ur talkin a small mortgage :)`
`00:22.06`	`denon`	`worth it for good sound :)`
`00:22.10`	`JerJer`	`yep`
`00:22.19`	`denon`	`we've got nice seinnheiser shotguns for the media stuff`
`00:22.30`	`denon`	`you'd never know you weren't right in the room`
`00:22.36`	`JerJer`	`i've got prolly $50,000 into just microphones`
`00:22.53`	`hardwire`	`thats just silly`
`00:23.08`	`denon`	`you could have $50k into just microphone (singular) :)`
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`00:23.16`	`JerJer`	`not when one gig gets $25,000`
`00:23.26`	`JerJer`	`for 4 hours of work`
`00:23.38`	`JerJer`	`denon: easily`
`00:23.41`	`denon`	`(porn movie with allison)`
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`00:24.33`	`JerJer`	`i always cringe when i watch those rap idiots drop or otherwise beat up the wireless mic's`
`00:24.43`	`denon`	`Jer: have you played with those mkh800s?`
`00:25.10`	`denon`	`really sweet mic, 5 selectable polar patterns`
`00:25.26`	`JerJer`	`hmm - is that the digital mic?`
`00:25.29`	`denon`	`little led for alignment`
`00:25.44`	`denon`	`yeah`
`00:25.52`	`denon`	`perfect for strapping onto an HD cam`
`00:26.02`	`Sedorox`	`who controls the digium.com domain?`
`00:26.08`	`denon`	`Digium.`
`00:26.10`	`JerJer`	`digium`
`00:26.10`	`SarahEmm`	`lol`
`00:26.25`	`jarnaud`	`How to create new commands in the dialplan?`
`00:26.28`	`denon`	`JerJer: last I checked, somethin like $2500 ..`
`00:26.31`	`denon`	`but man, what a sweet mic`
`00:26.37`	`Sedorox`	`bah.... tell someone there to add digium.com to it works along with www.digium.com :p`
`00:26.38`	`denon`	`jarnaud: AGI`
`00:26.38`	`SarahEmm`	`jarnaud: what do you mean by 'new commands'?`
`00:26.38`	`JerJer`	`denon: yeah for a arm and two legs`
`00:26.41`	`JerJer`	`lol :)`
`00:26.51`	`jarnaud`	`denon:I'd like to stay in the dialplan`
`00:27.03`	`denon`	`jarnaud: [macro-foo]`
`00:27.08`	`denon`	`show application macro`
`00:27.09`	`SarahEmm`	`then write an app or use macros`
`00:27.19`	`Katty`	`hmm.`
`00:27.23`	`SarahEmm`	`hmmmm?`
`00:27.29`	`Katty`	`exactly.`
`00:27.29`	`jarnaud`	`denon:right, that's what i taught, thanx`
`00:27.35`	`SarahEmm`	`Katty: Hmmshesays?`
`00:27.54`	`Katty`	`SarahEmm: heh ;)`
`00:27.58`	`DarthClue`	`No, Katty says down in front!`
`00:28.06`	`denon`	`jarnaud: np`
`00:28.38`	`Katty`	`eh?`
`00:28.44`	`Katty`	`Sedorox: what? (=`
`00:28.55`	`JerJer`	`denon: i think the studio I do a lot of work at was either pondering getting one or they already have one... can't remember`
`00:28.55`	`Sedorox`	`hehe`
`00:29.07`	`JerJer`	`i just googled for an image and it looks farmailar`
`00:29.22`	`Katty`	`Sedorox: k`
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`00:29.43`	`denon`	`JerJer: nod, peculiar looking mic ..`
`00:29.45`	`denon`	`but really nice`
`00:29.55`	`denon`	`the ME66 is the shotgun we like`
`00:30.01`	`denon`	`~300 bucks`
`00:30.17`	`JerJer`	`yeah that is a very reasonable price for a kickass mic`
`00:30.22`	`denon`	`its nice for out and about stuff, or even an interview etc`
`00:30.45`	`JerJer`	`yeah nice response curve`
`00:31.41`	`jarnaud`	`denon:I just want to create play() that does playback() with adding a special prefix to the soundfile (a sound path). Would you use macros?`
`00:32.05`	`Sedorox`	`that digital mike does upto 50KHz...`
`00:32.07`	`JerJer`	`use a global variable ?`
`00:32.07`	`Sedorox`	`why?!?!!??!`
`00:32.10`	`Sedorox`	`s/mike/mic`
`00:32.26`	`JerJer`	`Sedorox: to pick up harmonics, for fuller sounding audio`
`00:32.35`	`JerJer`	`more depth`
`00:32.36`	`denon`	`Sedorox: maybe some humans are more refined than others :)`
`00:32.55`	`denon`	`and yeah, dont forget the audio you "feel"`
`00:33.01`	`Sedorox`	`denon, I know that... I can hear higher then 20khz... but I mean upto 50khz....`
`00:33.02`	`jarnaud`	`JerJer:I am not writing the dialplan, developpers will. I want to hide things so that they won't have to specify any path`
`00:33.04`	`Sedorox`	`well yea...`
`00:33.09`	`Sedorox`	`but I didn't think you could feel that high...`
`00:33.40`	`JerJer`	`jarnaud: already sounds overcomplicated to me :)`
`00:33.46`	`JerJer`	`a macro should work`
`00:33.51`	`denon`	`Sedorox: I personally feel a mic vendor's job is to accurate capture as much as they can .. leave it up to me at the EQs to decide what I want to keep`
`00:34.01`	`jarnaud`	`rite`
`00:34.30`	`Sedorox`	`well yes`
`00:34.31`	`denon`	`plus, there are some uses for this kind of stuff in scientific studies ..`
`00:34.40`	`Sedorox`	`good point`
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`00:34.46`	`denon`	`listening for inaudible stuff, before an earthquake or something`
`00:34.50`	`Sedorox`	`see what else is floating around in the air :p`
`00:34.52`	`JerJer`	`yeah never thought about that angle`
`00:34.54`	`Sedorox`	`yea`
`00:35.11`	`denon`	`there's a lot of neat things that happen in nature, that can only be measured with gear like this (and much higher quality, even)`
`00:35.22`	`Sedorox`	`I was thinking just pure audio-recording/reproducing/enhancing`
`00:35.25`	`denon`	`nod`
`00:35.29`	`Sedorox`	`hehe`
`00:35.32`	`denon`	`there's a lot of other uses for this stuff, though`
`00:35.35`	`Sedorox`	`but yes.. all valid points`
`00:35.37`	`Sedorox`	`yes`
`00:35.38`	`JerJer`	`i picked up an 808 from a friend who needed some cash... kinda fun to play with`
`00:35.44`	`JerJer`	`roland`
`00:36.10`	`denon`	`nod`
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`00:37.12`	`JerJer`	`i've always wanted a roland drum kit, but have no room for something like that in my current boat`
`00:37.17`	`JerJer`	`guess i need a bigger boat`
`00:37.53`	`JerJer`	`then again there is always someone that says "no way, get a real kit" :)`
`00:38.13`	`denon`	`JerJer: you know . . Ive got some electronic drum gear I've been meaning to sell`
`00:38.34`	`JerJer`	`hey we could trade for minutes :P`
`00:38.34`	`denon`	`not so much a lack of room, moreso a lack of time or enthusiasm`
`00:38.51`	`denon`	`heheh, dunno, I'll get you the specs sometime`
`00:38.57`	`JerJer`	`cool`
`00:39.14`	`JerJer`	`"interesting trades accepted'`
`00:39.22`	`JerJer`	`er considered`
`00:39.25`	`JerJer`	`there we go`
`00:39.40`	`denon`	`hehe`
`00:40.07`	`JerJer`	`i saw that phrase on a bulletin board for some old Prowler or something`
`00:40.44`	`JerJer`	`I should call him up..."I have two gold chains and a doberman...I'll make payments on the rest"`
`00:40.54`	`JerJer`	`i'm so evil`
`00:42.19`	`Delta34`	`Is there different zaptel drivers for the newer digium cards, like the te210p?`
`00:42.34`	`Delta34`	`i tried buidling the zaptel driver and i dont see wct2xxp driver`
`00:43.17`	`X-Rob`	`use the wct4xxp module`
`00:45.46`	`Delta34`	`x-rob, did u try that card?`
`00:45.51`	`hardwire`	`blah`
`00:45.52`	`hardwire`	`and`
`00:45.53`	`hardwire`	`1/2`
`00:45.53`	`hardwire`	`dookie`
`00:46.09`	`Delta34`	`whats your opinion of that card?`
`00:47.35`	`JerJer`	`its a rectangle`
`00:48.19`	`denon`	`bleh`
`00:48.21`	`denon`	`im goin home`
`00:48.23`	`denon`	`take it easy jer`
`00:48.35`	`JerJer`	`say hi to the wifey for me :D`
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`00:50.27`	`X-Rob`	`Delta34 no I haven't tried it, so I don't know about it`
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`00:56.55`	`Coriantum`	`Can someone explain to me how ForkCDR works?`
`00:57.08`	`Katty`	`if i know what it was`
`00:58.28`	`Coriantum`	`CDR is the call detail report, it tells you when calls start and stop`
`00:58.51`	`Coriantum`	`but Asterisk combines both call legs`
`00:59.11`	`Coriantum`	`so I dont know what part of the call is inbound and what part outbound`
`00:59.19`	`Katty`	`hmm.`
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`00:59.32`	`Katty`	`the master.csv doesn't say anything?`
`00:59.40`	`Katty`	`i obviously haven't any idea`
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`01:01.13`	`Coriantum`	`All ForkCDR says is that it forks the CDR making 2 CDR's but I am not sure it if it just ends one of the CDR's and makes a new one or makes a new CDR and keeps both going at once.`
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`01:05.39`	`Coriantum`	`Katty: actually looking at Master.csv helped thanks`
`01:06.32`	`Coriantum`	`It has more info then the MySQL CDR`
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`01:06.38`	`yaaar`	`word`
`01:06.48`	`Katty`	`Coriantum: :>>>`
`01:07.21`	`opus_`	`wtf why is my name all LDAP`
`01:07.26`	`Coriantum`	`yaaar: sentence`
`01:07.28`	`yaaar`	`can SER handle timeouts like asterisk does? i.e. can i have ser ring a group/extension and if nobody picks up route it to someplace else?`
`01:07.38`	`opus_`	`like follow me?`
`01:07.58`	`yaaar`	`Coriantum, people always say that.....it doesn't make sense to me. i say "word" and that's a word....but when you say "sentence" it's stil.....just a word`
`01:08.19`	`Coriantum`	`word`
`01:08.22`	`yaaar`	`hehe`
`01:08.34`	`opus_`	`if its not scottish`
`01:08.34`	`yaaar`	`see there you go`
`01:08.35`	`Katty`	`hmm`
`01:08.38`	`SarahEmm`	`opus_: it's the new ircd. it makes your name N= for 'not idented' or I= for 'idented'`
`01:11.08`	`SarahEmm`	`?Clear`
`01:11.19`	`Sedorox`	`[21:07] opus_ wtf why is my name all LDAP`
`01:11.21`	`Sedorox`	`ahahahhahaa`
`01:11.29`	`Sedorox`	`I thought the same thing when I first got on today`
`01:13.00`	`opus_`	`weird`
`01:13.20`	`opus_`	`hey, lets trust users to run their own ident`
`01:13.31`	`SarahEmm`	`they reversed cloaks too, and seperated them with / instead of .`
`01:13.44`	`SarahEmm`	`so staff.freenode is now freenode/staff or somesuch`
`01:13.55`	`Delta34`	`did anybody try the asterisk-im plugin from jive software?`
`01:14.26`	`opus_`	`why?`
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`01:14.43`	`opus_`	`if asterisk-im isn't scottish, its shit.`
`01:14.55`	`Delta34`	`http://www.jivesoftware.org/asterisk-im/`
`01:15.35`	`JakBeatZ`	`Having trouble with MONITOR_EXEC and MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS Whenever I populate these values, Monitor doesn't seem to do anything with them. Anyone know if there are any tricks to those args?`
`01:15.48`	`Delta34`	`i was going to use it instead of an operator panel to notify if someone is on the phone`
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`01:16.56`	`brettnem`	`yaaar: SER can do fancy stuff like that..`
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`01:22.54`	`drbrown`	`Does anyone know what needs to be removed in order to move from cvs head to stable????`
`01:23.33`	`Qwell`	`drbrown: /var/lib/asterisk/modules/, or something`
`01:23.35`	`Qwell`	`maybe its /usr`
`01:23.46`	`Qwell`	`it'll like...tell you`
`01:24.00`	`drbrown`	`thx`
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`01:26.05`	`brettnem`	`drbrown: yeah blow out the modules.. I'd download stable into a new source tree`
`01:26.54`	`brettnem`	`hey, anyone know why a "event_log=no" in logger.conf crashes cvs-head`
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`01:29.03`	`phil0u`	`'lo`
`01:29.20`	`yaaar`	`brettnem, really? slick. so i can do all my dialplan stuff in SER and just have * handle the voicemail and pstn connections? got any documentation you could point me at on the timeout and failover route stuff?`
`01:30.04`	`yaaar`	`brettnem, i've found some things on routing elsewhere on failures but not on a length of ringing something.....cause a ringing extension still isn't a failure`
`01:30.49`	`Tili`	`has anybody here used teamspeak with IAX2`
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`01:31.37`	`phil0u`	`I'm currently trying to make busy tone detection work with * 1.0.9, but no success so far: i've found out that when i do a "show modules" i get a "res_indications.so Indications Configuration 0" . Could the pb be because of that ? How can i solve this ? thx`
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`01:31.47`	`Qwell`	`Tili: Does teamspeak support iax2?`
`01:32.34`	`Eminence`	`is there anyway to have asterisk only dial (out on zap) if there is a dialtone present?`
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`01:32.59`	`Tili`	`Qwell: they says so http://www.junctionnetworks.com/conferencecalling.htm`
`01:32.59`	`Qwell`	`Eminence: give ONLY asterisk access to the port, and it won't need to`
`01:33.18`	`Tili`	`oops sorry`
`01:33.19`	`Eminence`	`and if i can't give asterisk sole access to the port?`
`01:33.20`	`Qwell`	`ie; no splitters off to phones`
`01:33.24`	`Tili`	`thats junction`
`01:33.26`	`Qwell`	`Eminence: get a port where you can..`
`01:33.35`	`JasonGeniture`	`Can someone help me with a 'simple' problem? I have an asterisk box configured with AMP and with broadvoice for inbound and voipjet for outbound. The only problem I have is that when I call the box, and enter my extension, it always says "Blah Blah is on the phone, please leave a message.. etc", and I am certainly not on the line, and I also have call waiting enabled.`
`01:33.54`	`asteriskmonkey`	`problem is you have amp`
`01:33.57`	`Eminence`	`ok, so i take it there is no way to have asterisk wait for a dialtone`
`01:34.12`	`Tili`	`i meant junctionnetworks`
`01:34.16`	`Qwell`	`Eminence: I'd bet it is, but its silly`
`01:34.37`	`Qwell`	`it is, afterall, a pbx...not an answering machine`
`01:34.43`	`Eminence`	`silly, perhaps. might it be useful for me, yes.`
`01:34.43`	`JasonGeniture`	`asteriskmonkey: I doubt that, I've had it working through A@H before.`
`01:34.46`	`opus_`	`jasongeniture - what phonse are you using`
`01:34.46`	`Eminence`	`i understand`
`01:34.55`	`JasonGeniture`	`opus_: Eyebeam`
`01:35.03`	`opus_`	`are they currently registered?`
`01:35.07`	`JasonGeniture`	`yes`
`01:35.14`	`opus_`	`can hey call each other through asterisk?`
`01:35.20`	`JasonGeniture`	`No`
`01:35.26`	`opus_`	`why not?`
`01:35.32`	`JasonGeniture`	`I don't know.`
`01:36.10`	`JasonGeniture`	`I get the same "Joe Blow is on the phone" message`
`01:36.46`	`gnarf37`	`JasonGeniture: asterisk -rx 'sip show peers' \| grep username`
`01:36.54`	`gnarf37`	`see if your registered properly`
`01:36.59`	`JasonGeniture`	`ok`
`01:37.23`	`JasonGeniture`	`200/200 70.24.214.196 D N 255.255.255.255 6925 OK (51 ms)`
`01:37.32`	`gnarf37`	`hrm`
`01:37.42`	`gnarf37`	`looks right`
`01:38.02`	`gnarf37`	`whats the Dialplan for extension 200 (pm it to me)`
`01:38.08`	`JasonGeniture`	`ok`
`01:38.48`	`opus_`	`whast the command to figure out what libraries are currently loaded by asterisk?`
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`01:39.55`	`CaNaBiS`	`when people have their data and voice on two different subnets on the same physical network, do they do dhcp for pc's and ip phones?`
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`01:40.41`	`gnarf37`	`CaNaBiS: if you know the MAC of every phone, sure`
`01:40.54`	`Nugget`	`CaNaBiS: is that another way of asking "I am thinking about doing this, is it a sane plan?"`
`01:41.17`	`Qwell`	`Nugget: sounds reasonable`
`01:41.57`	`Nugget`	`I can't imagine not using dhcp for any number of devices above "a handful" :)`
`01:41.57`	`Sedorox`	`CaNaBiS, the school here I work for has a Cisco setup.... the phones detect the phone vlan.. and the computers are in one.... but yes.. its the same physical network.... if you don't have cisco's.... or a phone that does that.. you'd have to get each mac`
`01:43.18`	`Nugget`	`are the cisco MAC addresses easy to distinguish from their prefix? that might be a practical solution.`
`01:43.37`	`Qwell`	`Nugget: most brands should be`
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`01:43.55`	`Qwell`	`brands/model even, in some/most cases`
`01:44.02`	`Nugget`	`I just have the one, so... my dataset is not very illumination`
`01:44.06`	`Qwell`	`I wonder who assigns MACs`
`01:44.08`	`Katty`	`hi Nugget`
`01:44.08`	`Nugget`	`s/ion/ing/`
`01:44.13`	`SarahEmm`	`first 3 octets give you the mfg`
`01:44.15`	`Qwell`	`Is that iana or something?`
`01:44.17`	`SarahEmm`	`http://www.ethereal.com/tools/oui-lookup.html`
`01:44.24`	`SarahEmm`	`enter the first 3 octets in 'oui search' there`
`01:44.26`	`MichaelSaunders`	`Looking for a tool I can use. That will let me test authentication. I can build it into a webpage myself as long as it is a console app`
`01:44.27`	`SarahEmm`	`it'll give you the mfg`
`01:44.34`	`SarahEmm`	`IEEE Qwell`
`01:44.37`	`Qwell`	`SarahEmm: ahh`
`01:44.44`	`gnarf37`	`the first 3 octects of the MAC are the vendor code`
`01:44.51`	`Qwell`	`matching on first 3 in dhcp wouldn't be so good though. Especially if you'll ever have a cisco NIC on a PC/server`
`01:45.17`	`Netgeeks`	`I think SarahEmm has a mac address`
`01:45.24`	`SarahEmm`	`huh?`
`01:45.43`	`Netgeeks`	`you, personally, i Think you are addressable over ethernet via your own MAC ;)`
`01:45.47`	`SarahEmm`	`lol`
`01:45.48`	`SarahEmm`	`i wish!`
`01:45.52`	`Qwell`	`Netgeeks: Are you calling her an ethernet device? :p`
`01:45.57`	`Nugget`	`you might be able to automate it by watching the tftp server logs. Every time you see a request for SIPnnnnnnnnnnnnn.cnf, add that guy to the config for dhcpd. :)`
`01:46.09`	`Katty`	`Nugget: way to ignore me :P`
`01:46.09`	`Qwell`	`Nugget: That'd work pretty good`
`01:46.16`	`Nugget`	`I waved!`
`01:46.20`	`Netgeeks`	`If you can speak russian like a native, can i call you russian? ;)`
`01:46.29`	`Katty`	`k`
`01:46.32`	`Qwell`	`Katty: * Nugget waves`
`01:46.37`	`Qwell`	`Way to ignore him :p`
`01:46.49`	`Katty`	`Nugget: ;)`
`01:46.57`	`Katty`	`Qwell: Nugget knows i'minsane.`
`01:47.55`	`Katty`	`Nugget: :>>>`
`01:48.00`	`Katty`	`hugs++`
`01:48.04`	`brettnem`	`yaaar: SER can route on timeout.. look for the voicemail stuff for SER`
`01:48.09`	`opus_`	`is it true that cisco manufactures the polycom phones?`
`01:49.13`	`brettnem`	`hey can anyone else check to see if event_log=no in logger.conf crashes asterisk cvs?`
`01:51.08`	`Qwell`	`brettnem: Asterisk CVS-HEAD built by root@gentoo on a i686 running Linux on 2005-07-21 04:36:22 UTC Works here`
`01:52.41`	`drbrown`	`where are the asterisk modules at????`
`01:52.54`	`CaNaBiS`	`Qwell & Nugget`
`01:52.58`	`CaNaBiS`	`sorry I missed you`
`01:53.48`	`opus_`	`anybody use the odbc patch for the asterisk database?`
`01:53.56`	`CaNaBiS`	`I dont think I can VLAN, I essentially have 2 physically separate data networks joined by a router that are not to see each other`
`01:54.02`	`opus_`	`drbrown - /usr/lib/asterisk/modules`
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`01:54.36`	`CaNaBiS`	`so I put the phones on their own subnet and a static route in the router so that both networks can use the voip phones`
`01:54.51`	`CaNaBiS`	`its an Avaya system`
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`01:55.53`	`CaNaBiS`	`my next project is going to be putting a T1 card in the Avaya, tying it to an Asterisk box, and using voipjet.com for making our Int'l calls. How does that sound?`
`01:56.42`	`dwildes`	`hey guys - has anyone tried to setup a 'hint' for meetme rooms? php/perl/whatever`
`01:56.43`	`MichaelSaunders`	`Can anyone give me a sample sipsak I can use to test asterisk`
`01:56.55`	`Qwell`	`MichaelSaunders: sipsak?`
`01:57.59`	`opus_`	`DBget , where is the bug id for the odbc storage version`
`01:58.00`	`los415`	`if you bridge the router interfaces you can`
`01:58.24`	`Cybertank`	`Anyone using a digium card under Gentoo?`
`01:58.32`	`MichaelSaunders`	`Qwell: Is a commandline testing tool. I am trying to build a webpage where people punch in there username and password. I send sipsak a command. I can display the output. That way our helpdesk operators know if there is something wrong with the account`
`01:58.53`	`MichaelSaunders`	`sipsak: Can generate sip packets`
`01:59.05`	`Qwell`	`Cybertank: yep, works fine`
`01:59.39`	`Cybertank`	`Qwell: It doesn't create /dev/zap even though I followed the udev readme`
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`02:03.04`	`opus_`	`does this do anyhthing astdb => odbc,Asterisk,astdb`
`02:03.05`	`opus_`	`?`
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`02:07.33`	`Cybertank`	`Qwell: Any ideas what might be wrong?`
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`02:26.58`	`kerryH`	`install question`
`02:27.25`	`dudes`	`make && make install`
`02:27.56`	`kerryH`	`got thru all that, ran -vvvc & it choked`
`02:28.09`	`dudes`	`try asterisk -gcvvvv`
`02:28.24`	`kerryH`	`ok thanks`
`02:28.46`	`dudes`	`and then does it hang on sip ...`
`02:29.19`	`dudes`	`or does it crash?`
`02:30.00`	`kerryH`	`has a problem with app_capiCD.so in lib`
`02:30.11`	`kerryH`	`never stays running`
`02:30.30`	`dudes`	`kerryH - are you using capi?`
`02:30.34`	`Katty`	`hmm.`
`02:31.04`	`dudes`	`kerryH - if not in modules.conf noload => app_capiCD.so`
`02:31.29`	`kerryH`	`sorry, newbe too ignorant to understand question. How would i tell`
`02:31.48`	`dudes`	`if you don't know then noload it`
`02:32.15`	`kerryH`	`i'll look`
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`02:39.11`	`kerryH`	`have to go, will try again later thanks`
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`02:46.37`	`jaxxan`	`hey guys`
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`02:47.05`	`SarahEmm`	`hihi!`
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`02:51.00`	`jaxxan`	`is the T400P dead now ?`
`02:51.19`	`jaxxan`	`i can't find any documentation for it`
`02:51.46`	`jaxxan`	`well that's not quite tru`
`02:51.48`	`file[desk]`	`it's no longer made.`
`02:52.11`	`jaxxan`	`i can't find anything from digium about it`
`02:52.16`	`jaxxan`	`that figures`
`02:52.55`	`jaxxan`	`what's the latest one that's replaced it ?`
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`02:55.00`	`jaxxan`	`anyone know what the voltage for the t400p is ?`
`02:58.32`	`SarahEmm`	`works in 3.3v or 5v`
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`03:00.25`	`puowvip`	`ok, pajamatime`
`03:00.26`	`puowvip`	`ninight`
`03:00.51`	`opus_`	`jaxxan you really like throwing away manuals don't you`
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`03:02.14`	`BhaalWK`	`Is it time to go home yet?`
`03:03.03`	`SarahEmm`	`heh`
`03:03.12`	`SarahEmm`	`digium.com no longer working as a URL since the update is annoying`
`03:03.17`	`SarahEmm`	`lots of links to it no longer work`
`03:03.33`	`opus_`	`RTUP RTUP([field@engine:]<family>/<key>) Update Data in the Asterisk realtime engine`
`03:03.38`	`opus_`	`cool`
`03:05.17`	`BhaalWK`	`Okey, I am seriously confused...`
`03:05.27`	`SarahEmm`	`?`
`03:05.31`	`fearnor`	`jaxxan: t400p is same as tor2 card on zapatatelephony.org`
`03:05.42`	`BhaalWK`	`My home nick has ops, yet nothing in the logs indicates how I got it... must have happened during a netsplit... Intresting...`
`03:05.53`	`JunK-Y`	`here's the best pics of cluecon http://www.midsouthmarketplace.com/~krice/gallery/albums.php , a great thanks to ken for hosting.`
`03:06.03`	`SarahEmm`	`Bhaal: on what channel?`
`03:06.06`	`SarahEmm`	`oh. here.`
`03:06.07`	`SarahEmm`	`duh.`
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`03:06.16`	`BhaalWK`	`hahaha`
`03:06.21`	`SarahEmm`	`you can gain ops on netsplits again?`
`03:06.26`	`BhaalWK`	`yeah.. bink bink`
`03:06.28`	`SarahEmm`	`that seems..ungood`
`03:06.37`	`BhaalWK`	`I dont know...`
`03:07.00`	`BhaalWK`	`SarahEmm: checking`
`03:07.12`	`Sedorox`	`no...`
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`03:09.46`	`BhaalWK`	`Tis all good, found it...`
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`03:10.08`	`BhaalWK`	`bkw errored...`
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`03:11.57`	`SarahEmm`	`oh?`
`03:11.57`	`SarahEmm`	`okay`
`03:12.18`	`BhaalWK`	`And bkw didnt know how to remedy the situation...`
`03:12.34`	`BhaalWK`	`ops cant -o a oper`
`03:12.42`	`BhaalWK`	`But an oper can hehe`
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`03:13.45`	`SarahEmm`	`ahhh okay`
`03:15.13`	`Inv_arp`	`hmm im tryin to send the call id from an env variable... ID=${ENV(CALLID)} ... still doesnt come up on my home phone but when i hard code ID=5551212, it it works fine`
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`03:24.03`	`timecop`	`allright`
`03:24.07`	`timecop`	`can someone tell me what ditch_braces got renamed to`
`03:24.29`	`timecop`	`or where can i track this kinda shit`
`03:24.59`	`timecop`	`looks like get_in_brackets()`
`03:25.03`	`timecop`	`THANKS FOR BEING SO FUCKING USEFUL`
`03:25.55`	`file[laptop]`	`you're welcome.`
`03:26.01`	`file[laptop]`	`we try our best`
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`03:26.17`	`Katty`	`gosh`
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`03:26.26`	`jaxxan`	`so anyone know if the t400p will run on a 3.3v pci-x 100mhz or 3.3v pci-x 133mhz slot ?`
`03:26.38`	`Katty`	`timecop: way to be inconsiderate`
`03:27.08`	`file[laptop]`	`mmm cookie`
`03:27.28`	`timecop`	`i think next time i join in here i'll change my ident to hot15f and nick to Scatty`
`03:28.34`	`Katty`	`or maybe next time you could google first...and then wait patiently rather than just going off on people`
`03:28.45`	`Katty`	`it would be the polite thing to do :)`
`03:29.41`	`timecop`	`are you a tranny too?`
`03:29.49`	`SarahEmm`	`-_-`
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`03:34.36`	`BhaalWK`	`timecop: You have obviously read the book titled "101 Ways to Win Friends and Influence People"`
`03:35.33`	`file[laptop]`	`Katty is silly`
`03:35.42`	`SarahEmm`	`katty++`
`03:35.47`	`SarahEmm`	`hugs katty in a kitrichey sorta way`
`03:35.49`	`DarthClue`	`Katty+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++`
`03:36.37`	`SarahEmm`	`agreed!`
`03:38.42`	`DarthClue`	`And no, the $20 she sent me via Paypal was not a bribe.`
`03:39.39`	`SarahEmm`	`lol`
`03:40.00`	`DarthClue`	`it wasn't. I swear. But I'm not saying what it was for. Ever.`
`03:41.18`	`Katty`	`silly rabbit, secrets are for kids.`
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`03:42.25`	`Uberbot`	`Hi all.`
`03:42.28`	`Uberbot`	`Can anyone recommend a decent sip client? Preferably for kde. kphone locks up.`
`03:42.42`	`gravemind`	`kpho... never mind.`
`03:43.05`	`Uberbot`	`Unless someone knows how to fix kphone......`
`03:43.15`	`gravemind`	`only way to fix it is to uninstall it :P`
`03:43.23`	`gravemind`	`waste of disk space`
`03:43.27`	`Uberbot`	`I agree.`
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`03:44.57`	`mishehu`	`bah.`
`03:45.09`	`Uberbot`	`bah?`
`03:46.17`	`DarthClue`	`blah!`
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`03:47.16`	`mishehu`	`yes, bah!`
`03:47.27`	`mishehu`	`bah it's late and I'm paying company bills!`
`03:47.44`	`mishehu`	`instead of installing pwlib on this box...`
`03:47.59`	`file[laptop]`	`I paid my bills today for... some stuff yay`
`03:48.40`	`DarthClue`	`SarahEmm: teach me german?`
`03:48.56`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh`
`03:48.59`	`SarahEmm`	`i don't know german`
`03:49.02`	`SarahEmm`	`i could help teach you english`
`03:49.04`	`SarahEmm`	`or some ASL`
`03:49.06`	`SarahEmm`	`not german tho`
`03:49.58`	`DarthClue`	`yeah, I need to brush up on my ASL so I can talk to Katty at the next cluecon when she isn't in a talkative mood. Also makes it easier to talk without everyone knowing what you are saying.`
`03:50.36`	`DarthClue`	`english, well, if i don't know english, i think i am in big trouble.`
`03:50.51`	`jaxxan`	`when i do a ' ls /dev/z* ' i get a return of /dev/zap1-/dev/zap96 with my t400p installed, but everytime i try to run zttool or load the tor2 driver, i get a /dev/zap/ctl cannot be found`
`03:51.01`	`jaxxan`	`i dont have a /dev/zap/ctl, but i do have a /dev/zapctl`
`03:51.41`	`Delta34`	`are u on 2.6?`
`03:51.58`	`SarahEmm`	`DarthClue: it's difficult to teach ASL via a text based medium like irc ;)`
`03:52.26`	`DarthClue`	`SarahEmm: get a webcam then, i do run more than a cli sometimes.`
`03:52.28`	`jaxxan`	`any ideas why it's not creating a /dev/zap/ctl file ?`
`03:52.28`	`jaxxan`	`yes`
`03:52.40`	`jaxxan`	`i'm running 2.6.9`
`03:53.31`	`SarahEmm`	`DarthClue: i have a webcam heh`
`03:55.00`	`Netgeeks`	`!!`
`03:55.00`	`Netgeeks`	`I came back at an interesting moment`
`03:55.00`	`jaxxan`	`was there a problem with 2.6 kernel ?`
`03:55.00`	`DarthClue`	`SarahEmm: well, um, I could dig up yahoo or gaim or something and you could show me how much I don't remember about ASL`
`03:55.00`	`Netgeeks`	`udev is a pain in the arse, but I wouldn't call that a problem`
`03:55.06`	`mago2-cn`	`hi, skinny in asterisk also runs a tftp or i have to set it up?`
`03:55.30`	`SarahEmm`	`DarthClue: erm, not right now.. mew!`
`03:55.44`	`jaxxan`	`when i modprobe tor2, i get a line 142: unable to open master device ' /dev/zap/ctl/'`
`03:55.55`	`Netgeeks`	`What does the A stand for in ASL, I know the rest`
`03:55.57`	`Delta34`	`jaxxan, did u read the udev readme in the zaptel directory`
`03:55.59`	`SarahEmm`	`American Netgeeks`
`03:56.07`	`SarahEmm`	`American Sign Language`
`03:56.09`	`Delta34`	`you need to do something special for udev`
`03:56.13`	`SarahEmm`	`rofl DarthClue`
`03:56.17`	`SarahEmm`	`why is that? :P`
`03:56.26`	`Netgeeks`	`is this the alphabetical, or is the the word based form?`
`03:56.37`	`DarthClue`	`SarahEmm: i've promised never to reveal anything I know. It's safer that way.`
`03:56.40`	`SarahEmm`	`Netgeeks: uhh, both`
`03:56.44`	`Netgeeks`	`oh`
`03:56.45`	`SarahEmm`	`Netgeeks: ASL has both fingerspelling and words`
`03:56.55`	`SarahEmm`	`DarthClue: oh..kay... peers around nervously for spycams`
`03:56.56`	`Netgeeks`	`I just know finger part`
`03:57.35`	`SarahEmm`	`DarthClue: hehe. the T-handshape one?`
`03:57.35`	`jaxxan`	`in the zaptel src directory ?`
`03:57.39`	`Delta34`	`yes`
`03:57.48`	`Delta34`	`README.udev`
`03:57.48`	`DarthClue`	`SarahEmm: yep`
`03:58.09`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: are you getting cid numbeR?`
`03:58.09`	`SarahEmm`	`DarthClue: nods meow.`
`03:58.17`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: i wasn't this morning, lemme try now`
`03:58.24`	`jaxxan`	`i'll read it now, thx`
`03:58.44`	`JunK-Y`	`here's the best pics of cluecon http://www.midsouthmarketplace.com/~krice/gallery/albums.php , a great thanks to ken for hosting.`
`03:58.53`	`SarahEmm`	`nope sivana`
`03:59.01`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: setting outgoing i mean. no worky.`
`03:59.21`	`jaxxan`	`hey! that looks like the problem!`
`03:59.39`	`SarahEmm`	`kitrich!`
`03:59.55`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: you can set outgoing cid number, though right?`
`04:00.19`	`SarahEmm`	`lemme doublecheck my dialplan`
`04:00.44`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: not sure what you mean`
`04:01.08`	`SarahEmm`	`no i can't sivana`
`04:01.27`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: same problem i had right when i signed up. if i use SetCallerID, it still shows up as Unknown for hte person i call`
`04:02.08`	`sivana`	`are you using HEAD?`
`04:03.27`	`SarahEmm`	`yep`
`04:03.45`	`sivana`	`Set(callerid(num)=4165551212)`
`04:03.46`	`SarahEmm`	`was working before yesterday`
`04:03.50`	`SarahEmm`	`err`
`04:03.52`	`SarahEmm`	`okay i'll change it`
`04:04.18`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: sivana's suggestion only works in CVS-HEAd and won't solve your problem.`
`04:04.24`	`SarahEmm`	`i'm in HEAD`
`04:04.28`	`SarahEmm`	`and i didn't think so`
`04:04.30`	`sivana`	`the only thing we blank out is cid.name`
`04:04.33`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: it worked before your work yesterday :)`
`04:04.35`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: What is the ACTUAL Setcallerid line you are currently using?`
`04:04.43`	`sivana`	`I just updated to latest CVS head`
`04:05.18`	`SarahEmm`	`now i'm using the line sivana just typed here manx`
`04:05.21`	`SarahEmm`	`still no-go`
`04:05.32`	`SarahEmm`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:05.46`	`DarthClue`	`looks like I managed to escape being in any of those pictures. That's good.`
`04:05.46`	`ManxPower`	`DON'T USE A LEADING 1!!!!!!!`
`04:06.02`	`ManxPower`	`A leading 1 is not part of the telephone number.`
`04:06.02`	`SarahEmm`	`yikes`
`04:06.04`	`SarahEmm`	`ducks`
`04:06.05`	`Netgeeks`	`that shouldn't matter`
`04:06.07`	`ManxPower`	`Neither is 011`
`04:06.12`	`ManxPower`	`Netgeeks: it CAN matter.`
`04:06.17`	`Netgeeks`	`unless asterisk is now US only`
`04:06.25`	`mishehu`	`DarthClue: me too`
`04:06.29`	`ManxPower`	`Netgeeks: No, 1 is not part of the phone number.`
`04:06.37`	`mishehu`	`it was that jedi stealth power`
`04:06.49`	`ManxPower`	`Netgeeks: Just like you don't set a leading 0 in other parts of the country.`
`04:06.50`	`DarthClue`	`mishehu: yeah, but you weren't really with the group that was picture happy.`
`04:06.54`	`Netgeeks`	`you are saying that sarahemm's upstream doesn't expect 11 digits?`
`04:07.00`	`Netgeeks`	`they expect 10`
`04:07.06`	`sivana`	`Netgeeks: both`
`04:07.07`	`ManxPower`	`Netgeeks: Most up streams expect 10 digits`
`04:07.09`	`SarahEmm`	`-- Executing Set("SIP/cymric-soft-94df", "callerid(num)=8885487424") in new stack`
`04:07.11`	`SarahEmm`	`still no go`
`04:07.12`	`sivana`	`we strip out the 1 anyways`
`04:07.15`	`Netgeeks`	`they'll probably still take a 1`
`04:07.20`	`SarahEmm`	`at any rate`
`04:07.22`	`sivana`	`you can't set it to a tollfree`
`04:07.23`	`SarahEmm`	`there's no 1 now :P`
`04:07.29`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: Is 8885487424 a valid USA phone number?`
`04:07.37`	`SarahEmm`	`ManxPower: i don't live in the USA...`
`04:07.37`	`Netgeeks`	`and "most up streams in the NANPA zone only take 10"`
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`04:07.46`	`SarahEmm`	`it's valid canadia tho`
`04:07.49`	`mishehu`	`DarthClue: for a good reason ;-)`
`04:07.50`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: you can't set it to a tollfree`
`04:07.55`	`ManxPower`	`sivana: perhaps that's carrier specific. I can set my callerid name to anything I want including 4 digits and my carrier will use it.`
`04:08.02`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: Where is your CARRIER located?`
`04:08.08`	`SarahEmm`	`erm.. i'm not sure`
`04:08.11`	`SarahEmm`	`canada tho :)`
`04:08.13`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: are you sending that traffic through my box?`
`04:08.19`	`SarahEmm`	`yes, i am sivana`
`04:08.22`	`DarthClue`	`JunK-Y: you may need to get rid of the one of Katty, she is picture shy and will want it approved if you leave it up there.`
`04:08.23`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: canada is close enough. 8-) Who is your carrier?`
`04:08.27`	`sivana`	`lol`
`04:08.34`	`SarahEmm`	`ManxPower: sivana :P`
`04:08.36`	`SarahEmm`	`voctel`
`04:08.36`	`mishehu`	`canadia`
`04:08.38`	`SarahEmm`	`voctel++`
`04:08.39`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: Oh, if sivana is your carrier then go listen to him/her`
`04:08.44`	`SarahEmm`	`i am :)`
`04:08.46`	`sivana`	`hehe`
`04:08.59`	`sivana`	`try the caller id num not being a toll-free number`
`04:09.11`	`SarahEmm`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:09.13`	`SarahEmm`	`still no go`
`04:09.16`	`SarahEmm`	`and that's my local DID`
`04:09.21`	`sivana`	`ok, try this one`
`04:09.25`	`sivana`	`7052232145`
`04:10.16`	`SarahEmm`	`-- Executing Set("SIP/cymric-soft-dd40", "callerid(num)=7052232145") in new stack`
`04:10.19`	`SarahEmm`	`still no go`
`04:10.24`	`sivana`	`makes no sense`
`04:10.44`	`sivana`	`where you calling?`
`04:10.48`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: you're not using gasp quotes or anything? Doesn't look like it from the paste, but....`
`04:11.26`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: Set(callerid(number)=blah)`
`04:11.36`	`sivana`	`put blah = real number :)`
`04:11.43`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: if you have a DID with sivana then try calling yourself and see what Asterisk sees as the incoming callerid when it doesn't leave the carrier's network.`
`04:11.46`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: exten => _9416NXXXXXX,1,Set(callerid(num)=7052232145)`
`04:11.51`	`sivana`	`number`
`04:11.58`	`sivana`	`s/num/number`
`04:12.03`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: calling my cell to test`
`04:12.07`	`sivana`	`ya`
`04:12.19`	`ManxPower`	`Aye, that would do it.`
`04:12.23`	`sivana`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:12.59`	`SarahEmm`	`gah, i was doing what you said ;)`
`04:13.16`	`sivana`	`I know.. my typo`
`04:13.20`	`SarahEmm`	`...`
`04:13.21`	`SarahEmm`	`still no go`
`04:13.31`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh wait`
`04:13.35`	`SarahEmm`	`function callerid not registered`
`04:13.37`	`SarahEmm`	`...`
`04:14.04`	`sivana`	`damn.. I don't remember the old Set function`
`04:14.09`	`sivana`	`SetCallerIDNumber ?`
`04:14.16`	`ManxPower`	`sivana: SetCLIDNum`
`04:14.22`	`sivana`	`SetCIDNum ?`
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`04:14.37`	`SarahEmm`	`hrm`
`04:14.39`	`ink-`	`Hello`
`04:14.40`	`SarahEmm`	`i was sure this box was on head`
`04:14.42`	`ManxPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:14.51`	`SarahEmm`	`it's head from ~1mo ago`
`04:14.52`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: "show version"`
`04:15.02`	`Uberbot`	`Having trouble configuring my Zap1`
`04:15.04`	`SarahEmm`	`SetCIDNum was exactly what i was using before heh`
`04:15.05`	`sivana`	`do you have a custom modules.conf?`
`04:15.08`	`ink-`	`I need a experienced Asterisk develpoer`
`04:15.09`	`Uberbot`	`The error: Signalling requested is FXO Loopstart but line is in FXS Kewlstart signalling`
`04:15.12`	`ink-`	`Is there any around here?`
`04:15.13`	`ManxPower`	`SarahEmm: The old format of SetCIDNum(2125551212) should still work`
`04:15.20`	`ink-`	`Caller ID spoofing?`
`04:15.24`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: i'll go back to using SetCIDNum :P`
`04:15.27`	`sivana`	`sure`
`04:15.35`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: no, just trying to make it show my number when i call out`
`04:15.39`	`ink-`	`Oh,`
`04:15.43`	`sivana`	`you need to add the function to your modules.conf`
`04:15.51`	`ink-`	`Is there any experienced developers in here`
`04:15.52`	`sivana`	`but anyways, that's another day`
`04:15.53`	`SarahEmm`	`ahh`
`04:15.55`	`SarahEmm`	`func_callerid.so`
`04:15.57`	`sivana`	`ya`
`04:16.01`	`ink-`	`I need help with a semi-large project`
`04:16.01`	`SarahEmm`	`adding`
`04:16.01`	`DarthClue`	`ink-: no, we are all amateurs.`
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`04:16.22`	`DarthClue`	`ink-: details please. we can't help if you aren't specific.`
`04:16.23`	`mago2-cn`	`can anyone please help me, i'm installing chan_sccp2 and don't know where to find firmware for 7920...`
`04:16.41`	`DarthClue`	`mago2-cn: Cisco would be the place to get it from.`
`04:16.50`	`ink-`	`Well, I want to start a Caller ID service, a serious one, that will be up for long, cheaper than all the others, and with more features`
`04:16.56`	`ink-`	`But I know nothing about Asterisk`
`04:17.00`	`sivana`	`hehe`
`04:17.02`	`ManxPower`	`mago2-cn: you have to buy the SCCP firmware for Cisco phones`
`04:17.04`	`ink-`	`All I know is how the system works`
`04:17.08`	`ink-`	`And what it does`
`04:17.16`	`ink-`	`And I want to start this company but I need some help`
`04:17.20`	`ManxPower`	`ink-: Many have tried. Most have failed.`
`04:17.32`	`ManxPower`	`ink-: how much in venture capital do you have?`
`04:17.39`	`ink-`	`Excuse me?`
`04:17.42`	`ManxPower`	`or at least how much funding do you have?`
`04:17.59`	`ink-`	`Honestly, I could say not much`
`04:18.15`	`ManxPower`	`ink-: Um, I hate to break it to you, but starting a company requires large amounts of cash.`
`04:18.17`	`ink-`	`But being unexperienced, just about how much would it cost?`
`04:18.21`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh`
`04:18.35`	`mago2-cn`	`i've read on the wiki that it is long a process to get firmware from cisco, any advice on how to make it the shortest possible?`
`04:18.40`	`ManxPower`	`ink-: I would not work for a company with less then $1 million in the bank`
`04:18.42`	`Netgeeks`	`A CallerID Spoofing company, cheaper than the rest, and better?`
`04:18.45`	`SarahEmm`	`func_callerid is loaded but i still get`
`04:18.46`	`SarahEmm`	`Aug 9 00:16:47 ERROR[12584]: pbx.c:1368 ast_func_write: Function callerid not registered`
`04:18.58`	`ink-`	`$1Million to start a small caller Id spoofing company? X_X`
`04:19.17`	`ManxPower`	`ink-: Depends on how good you want the service to be.`
`04:19.18`	`file[laptop]`	`:x`
`04:19.26`	`ManxPower`	`ink-: And then there's the death threats and legal fees.`
`04:19.35`	`mishehu`	`bah.`
`04:19.39`	`Netgeeks`	`You could start one, and try to grow it from nothing, but nothing is still in the 6 digit range... if you want reliability`
`04:19.40`	`*** join/#asterisk fulano (N=roots@cypher.punk.net)`
`04:19.43`	`mishehu`	`I can't get pwlib to build. :-/`
`04:19.45`	`ManxPower`	`ink-: you have not read about the other callerid spoofing services then ended service, have you?`
`04:19.46`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: I loaded mine after apps`
`04:19.49`	`Uberbot`	`I no longer get any errors in /var/log/asterisk/message.`
`04:19.55`	`ink-`	`Well, the death threats I am not worried about,`
`04:20.00`	`Uberbot`	`But zap show channels doesn't show my zap device.....`
`04:20.02`	`ink-`	`The legal fees, possible`
`04:20.03`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: and you need to restart * I believe.. reload isn't enough`
`04:20.10`	`SarahEmm`	`i did restart *`
`04:20.11`	`ink-`	`I read abotu them, they get all sorts of death threats`
`04:20.27`	`recursion`	`is away`
`04:20.28`	`ink-`	`But how they actualyl made the death threats are beyond me.`
`04:20.37`	`ManxPower`	`Seems like there are much easier ways to get rich.`
`04:20.45`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: SetCIDNum should work still, but doesn't...`
`04:20.47`	`ink-`	`I am not worried about death threats via email.`
`04:20.51`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: want me to try upgrading to the latest HEAD?`
`04:20.53`	`Netgeeks`	`selling drugs works, for a while...`
`04:20.54`	`sivana`	`SarahEmm: I think it's my upstream, they had done an upgrade earlier and rolled it back last night`
`04:20.59`	`SarahEmm`	`ahh`
`04:21.07`	`sivana`	`my suspicion is them`
`04:21.13`	`ManxPower`	`Netgeeks: more profitable and only a little more dangerous!`
`04:21.14`	`SarahEmm`	`i haven't changed my dialplan, and this worked before`
`04:21.23`	`ink-`	`What do you guys use your Asterisk system for?`
`04:21.27`	`sivana`	`yes, I will be able to confirm tomorrrow to be sure`
`04:21.29`	`Netgeeks`	`ink- I'm sure if you post a message on the -biz list asking for help, you'd get some responses.`
`04:21.49`	`ink-`	`How can I get there (sorry, not fimiliar)`
`04:21.51`	`Netgeeks`	`I'd be more than glad to write you up a quote if you send me a RFQ or a project scope`
`04:21.52`	`SarahEmm`	`sivana: okies`
`04:22.16`	`Netgeeks`	`go to ww.digium.com and poke arounf\d thier page for mail lists`
`04:22.33`	`*** join/#asterisk MikeJ[Laptop] (N=ircatjer@d14-69-8-30.try.wideopenwest.com)`
`04:22.38`	`Netgeeks`	`they have a page somewhere that tells you how to get on the lists`
`04:22.40`	`ink-`	`What do you guys use your asterisk systems for?`
`04:22.48`	`timecop`	`i use it for trolling`
`04:23.06`	`ink-`	`Trolling?`
`04:23.11`	`SarahEmm`	`lol`
`04:23.14`	`timecop`	`yes.`
`04:23.15`	`Netgeeks`	`to make phone calls..... and to make money`
`04:23.23`	`timecop`	`making money with opensoreS?`
`04:23.27`	`ink-`	`How would you make money with it?`
`04:23.29`	`SarahEmm`	`i'm using mine at home as a home PBX`
`04:23.38`	`timecop`	`ink-: you dont, he's dreaming`
`04:23.42`	`ink-`	`:-\`
`04:23.49`	`Netgeeks`	`I develop very complicated dialing plans for people who pay me to do so`
`04:23.50`	`SarahEmm`	`why does everyone magically think 'oh, if i install asterisk i can make money!' ?`
`04:24.16`	`ink-`	`So, what hardware does an asterisk system use?`
`04:24.18`	`sivana`	`cuz the cost to market is cheap`
`04:24.28`	`Netgeeks`	`My average project takes 4-6 weeks and I charge 15-20k usd for them`
`04:24.35`	`sivana`	`but they don't realize, as with everything, Market, Market, Market`
`04:24.38`	`mishehu`	`ink-: I have a hamster and a wheel running mine. heh.`
`04:24.54`	`ink-`	`:D But really, I am new to this`
`04:24.58`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: read the wiki`
`04:25.00`	`SarahEmm`	`~rtfw`
`04:25.00`	`jbot`	`well, rtfw is http://www.voip-info.org, the only place to get any real answers about * and it's many, many uses.`
`04:25.05`	`mishehu`	`the meat ain't fresh if it stinks... and the page hasn't been updated in ages`
`04:25.05`	`ink-`	`So I was thinking all you need was the VOIP connection, and your PC`
`04:25.19`	`Netgeeks`	`so far most of the companies I have been hired to work or are STILL trying to raise capital to do anything`
`04:25.19`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: read the wiki.`
`04:25.21`	`sskyles`	`I USE MY ASTERISK SYSTEM TO REDIRECT ALL UNKNOWN NUMBERS AND CALLER IDS TO THE HANGUP FUNCTION!`
`04:26.02`	`mishehu`	`sskyles: you're too kind`
`04:26.03`	`JerJer`	`ekk don't beat me master`
`04:26.09`	`timecop`	`the wiki is totally worthless for a new user`
`04:26.16`	`timecop`	`hell, its even worthless for someone who knows what htey're doing`
`04:26.23`	`mishehu`	`timecop: nonsense`
`04:26.25`	`JerJer`	`you've been a new user for 2 years now`
`04:26.29`	`timecop`	`heh`
`04:26.29`	`sskyles`	`It is now, with all those changes...`
`04:26.32`	`mishehu`	`if you know how to read it's quite handy.`
`04:26.37`	`timecop`	`right, whatever`
`04:26.41`	`mishehu`	`sskyles: well go and update it.`
`04:26.47`	`DarthClue`	`timecop: everything is worthless to you, including you, so just close it and move along.`
`04:26.49`	`mishehu`	`a wiki is a community project.`
`04:26.53`	`ink-`	`Can you guys, besides running a service, tell me pracitcal uses of Asterisk?`
`04:27.02`	`sskyles`	`Ha, I'm still learning about those changes as of yesterday,`
`04:27.06`	`timecop`	`ink-: trolling`
`04:27.10`	`sskyles`	`System still isn;t quite right.`
`04:27.14`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: i use it as a gateway between the internet and the phone system for making and receiving TTY calls, and i use it as a PBX for incoming voice calls`
`04:27.19`	`mishehu`	`DarthClue: hey, if he's a timecop, does that mean he can pull time over when it goes too fast for him to catch up?`
`04:27.25`	`timecop`	`ink-: run a dial-in conf from a 1800 number where people can call in and troll each other.`
`04:27.33`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: and it gives people one single number to call me at, and * searches around for me until it finds me and connects the call. stuff like that.`
`04:27.35`	`ink-`	`Sounds great`
`04:27.49`	`timecop`	`right, because people REALLY need to locate you 24/7`
`04:27.54`	`ink-`	`Yep`
`04:28.02`	`ink-`	`Like at 4:00AM when you are sleeping`
`04:28.06`	`timecop`	`right.`
`04:28.09`	`ink-`	`Because God knows what will happen then.`
`04:28.09`	`SarahEmm`	`sometimes, yeah.`
`04:28.18`	`ink-`	`Do you mind if I as what for?.`
`04:28.26`	`Netgeeks`	`I'm sure the day will come when I need to SarahEmm, and when that day comes, I'd liek to be able to reach her 24x7 :)`
`04:28.27`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: me? what for what?`
`04:28.38`	`SarahEmm`	`Netgeeks: when you need to sarahemm? ;)`
`04:28.41`	`DarthClue`	`well, some of us actually work and happen to need to be reachable 24/7.`
`04:28.42`	`ink-`	`Why would someone need you reach you at 6:00AM`
`04:28.52`	`timecop`	`no reason`
`04:28.56`	`timecop`	`phones should be off at night.`
`04:29.04`	`SarahEmm`	`timecop: i work netops, sometimes i have to get up at 4am.`
`04:29.07`	`ink-`	`I am glad no one has to call me that early`
`04:29.07`	`Netgeeks`	`yep, never know when I might need a copy of HP/UX`
`04:29.13`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: because i work network operations for a couple companies.`
`04:29.16`	`sivana`	`JerJer: do you handle any customer faxing through your centre?`
`04:29.17`	`ink-`	`OK.`
`04:29.33`	`ink-`	`Let's say I want to make a service that record's phone calls, would that be easier than a Caller ID spoofing company?`
`04:29.33`	`SarahEmm`	`i'm still setting that part up so far tho`
`04:29.38`	`SarahEmm`	`right now it's mainly a non-voice system for me`
`04:29.40`	`sskyles`	`My phone don't even ring after 10pm... Even if you call... unless you are on the list.`
`04:29.41`	`DarthClue`	`because the intarweb is broke and we have to point out that it is really just a bad router located 400 miles away in a data center that we don't have access to until 8am.`
`04:29.42`	`JerJer`	`sivana: those with solid pipes that can deal with ulaw can fax`
`04:29.59`	`JerJer`	`all of our faxing is done with a store and forward play`
`04:30.02`	`mishehu`	`hmm`
`04:30.03`	`sivana`	`hrm.. we run only ulaw and still sucks`
`04:30.07`	`ink-`	`Let's say I want to make a service that record's phone calls, would that be easier than a Caller ID spoofing company?`
`04:30.09`	`mishehu`	`is it time yet to /ignore timecop ?`
`04:30.11`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: don't repeat.`
`04:30.11`	`sivana`	`oh I see`
`04:30.19`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: not really. about the same probably`
`04:30.22`	`DarthClue`	`mishehu: he goes away eventually`
`04:30.24`	`timecop`	`mishehu: each time you /ignore timecop the terrorists win`
`04:30.27`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: learn about * before you blindly say 'i want to make money with *' tho.`
`04:30.34`	`ink-`	`I am not looking to make money with it`
`04:30.49`	`mishehu`	`DarthClue: he must be a bot. don't see much intelligence in anything he says.`
`04:30.55`	`sivana`	`ink-: as with anything, you need to be able to market whatever your idea is, and that take money`
`04:30.58`	`ink-`	`I am looking for a small bussiness solution that shows the use of VoIp`
`04:31.01`	`sskyles`	`Shady business ethics... It gives me the creepy feeling like all those x-spammer looking for some new way to make a buck.`
`04:31.02`	`mago2-cn`	`if i have firmware files from call manager 3.3(3), don't they work with chan_sccp?`
`04:31.03`	`DarthClue`	`mishehu: no, i am the bot.`
`04:31.04`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`http://www.midsouthmarketplace.com/~krice/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=IMG_1706`
`04:31.17`	`mishehu`	`DarthClue: no, you are a cyborg. that's different.`
`04:31.24`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: what are you looking to do then?`
`04:31.32`	`ink-`	`I am looking for a small bussiness solution that shows the use of VoIp`
`04:31.38`	`DarthClue`	`mishehu: nope, just a really advanced ai engine with hologram capabilities.`
`04:31.41`	`timecop`	`well, thats a problem`
`04:31.45`	`timecop`	`because asterisk fucking sucks at that`
`04:31.46`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: o..kay.. confused kitrich look`
`04:31.51`	`timecop`	`you know that analog phone system you got in your "small business"?`
`04:31.59`	`timecop`	`trying to get asterisk to do somethigmn similar is near impossible`
`04:32.03`	`mishehu`	`DarthClue: no no, I'm the super sophisticated AI bot running out of berkeley's labs.`
`04:32.07`	`timecop`	`because of you cant do this-and-that`
`04:32.18`	`timecop`	`better off buying a key system from panasonic or something`
`04:32.21`	`mishehu`	`whats a "kitrich" look ?`
`04:32.25`	`timecop`	`and get some voip card`
`04:32.28`	`SarahEmm`	`it's opensource. if i don't like something, i fix it :P`
`04:32.29`	`sams`	`MikeJ[Laptop], you have setup * with RealTime right?`
`04:32.32`	`timecop`	`mishehu: the look on your face when your dick gets lopped off`
`04:32.34`	`SarahEmm`	`mishehu: http://www.sarahemm.net/glossary.php#kitrich`
`04:32.38`	`DarthClue`	`actually, * is perfect for replacing that tiny little analog phone system. Of course, just don't listen to timecop and everything will be fine`
`04:32.41`	`ink-`	`SarahEmm, I am just looking for a bussiness solution, that uses VoIP`
`04:32.41`	`SarahEmm`	`mishehu: Your Guide to SarahSpeak`
`04:32.44`	`timecop`	`DarthClue: bullshit.`
`04:32.45`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: why?`
`04:32.52`	`mishehu`	`SarahEmm: oh, I already speak enough foreign languages.`
`04:32.54`	`ink-`	`Why not?`
`04:32.57`	`timecop`	`DarthClue: normal people wnat to push line buttons`
`04:32.58`	`SarahEmm`	`mishehu: lol`
`04:33.01`	`SarahEmm`	`ink :uhh... okay.`
`04:33.05`	`timecop`	`DarthClue: asterisk doesnt do that`
`04:33.05`	`ink-`	`...`
`04:33.10`	`DarthClue`	`timecop: um, yeah it does.`
`04:33.14`	`timecop`	`no it doesnt`
`04:33.17`	`mishehu`	`asterisk pees on timecop`
`04:33.50`	`timecop`	`DarthClue: ok, show me a voip phone with say 12 outgoing lines, and how to tie it into asterisk including line status monitoring etc.`
`04:34.22`	`timecop`	`so that when line5 is in use somewhere, all the other phones show line5 as unavailable.`
`04:34.24`	`ink-`	`Sorry to repeat myself, but, besides "trolling" what are other pracitical uses one can put Asterisk to,`
`04:34.32`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: i've explained a few.. heh.`
`04:34.40`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: it'll do anything a normal PBX will, and then some. :)`
`04:34.42`	`DarthClue`	`ink-: read the wiki. It will tell you want to know.`
`04:34.47`	`ink-`	`I red the Wiki`
`04:34.49`	`ink-`	`A few times.`
`04:34.49`	`SarahEmm`	`and yes, rtfw.`
`04:34.54`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: uhh, all of it?`
`04:34.59`	`ink-`	`No,`
`04:35.00`	`DarthClue`	`ink-: if you did, you wouldn't be asking these questions.`
`04:35.04`	`ink-`	`:D`
`04:35.08`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: there's a Lot of info on the wiki.`
`04:35.09`	`SarahEmm`	`read it.`
`04:35.14`	`ink-`	`I just want to know, what some of the stuff, you guys do with yours`
`04:35.31`	`mishehu`	`ink-: I use it to make and receive phone calls from people who are supposed to pay me for assisting them with their problems.`
`04:35.32`	`ink-`	`Besides being able to be found 24/7, or a home PBX, or a conference`
`04:35.35`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: i use it right now to link the internet with the phone system to make/receive TTY calls.`
`04:35.45`	`brookshire`	`OMG.. so tired`
`04:35.47`	`nwhit`	`timecop, you can do that with snom phones`
`04:35.48`	`sams`	`anyone know if there is a way to get the "register=>" lines from the [general] sections of the confs into a realtime DB?`
`04:35.49`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: what are you interested in doing?`
`04:35.59`	`timecop`	`nwhit: ohreally, well, link me to info that says so`
`04:35.59`	`ink-`	`Well, I have A Voip Line`
`04:36.00`	`file[laptop]`	`OMG MATT BROOKS`
`04:36.04`	`ink-`	`And I wanna see some interesting stuff I can do`
`04:36.09`	`brookshire`	`hey file`
`04:36.11`	`nwhit`	`timecop, or something similar`
`04:36.11`	`SarahEmm`	`ink: what kind of "VoIP Line"?`
`04:36.14`	`nwhit`	`timecop, hold on`
`04:36.15`	`brookshire`	`<-- san fran :)`
`04:36.18`	`ink-`	`I use Nufone VOIP`
`04:36.20`	`timecop`	`nwhit: i dont want similar, old people dont want change.`
`04:36.24`	`ink-`	`With a ATA and normal phone`
`04:36.37`	`JerJer`	`wow our only customer admits it`
`04:36.52`	`timecop`	`haha`
`04:36.57`	`SarahEmm`	`lol`
`04:36.58`	`sivana`	`timecop: use your creative mind and interface into their existing systems`
`04:36.59`	`DarthClue`	`JerJer: that's a load, we know you have at least 2 customers.`
`04:37.17`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: ahh. yes, we're... familiar with nufone here.`
`04:37.18`	`SarahEmm`	`;)`
`04:37.18`	`timecop`	`well, if nufone had some kind of technical support they would have more customers`
`04:37.25`	`timecop`	`just a guess though.`
`04:37.33`	`sivana`	`timecop: 90% of our customers is simply dialtone replacement from Bell... not new infrastructure`
`04:37.42`	`JerJer`	`what's this "technical support" you speak of?`
`04:37.48`	`timecop`	`exactly.`
`04:37.50`	`brookshire`	`haha.. dude.. our hotel is haunted`
`04:37.51`	`ink-`	`I think I am going to change the NuFone`
`04:37.55`	`DarthClue`	`I'm pretty sure that nufone has technical support. Hours may vary.`
`04:37.55`	`nwhit`	`timecop, http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20presence`
`04:38.03`	`ink-`	`I actualyl had no idea VOIP was being setup in my house`
`04:38.09`	`JerJer`	`how much technical support does Bell provide?`
`04:38.19`	`ink-`	`But like I said, I want to see some neat stuff I can do with voip`
`04:38.23`	`timecop`	`ya this is inverse of waht I am doing nwhit.`
`04:38.25`	`sivana`	`JerJer: ya right... Bell tech support`
`04:38.30`	`DarthClue`	`Bell: well, not much, cause like, ya know, the damn thing just works.`
`04:38.39`	`mishehu`	`JerJer: bell provides a monkey 24/7!`
`04:38.40`	`nwhit`	`timecop, it works for most people`
`04:38.43`	`timecop`	`this is like to let me know of extensions being on or somethign`
`04:38.49`	`timecop`	`nwhit: have you ever used a normal office key system?`
`04:38.56`	`JerJer`	`bell says "it works to our demarc"`
`04:38.56`	`mishehu`	`I call sometimes just to hear the bananas being eaten and the poop being thrown at the phone`
`04:38.57`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`binx!`
`04:39.04`	`JerJer`	`that's their level of technical support`
`04:39.04`	`Cybertank`	`Hey Sarah... you worked on Digium and Gentoo right?`
`04:39.07`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: how exactly did you have no idea you signed up with nufone?`
`04:39.13`	`nwhit`	`timecop, yes... its only a small change if you give them this feature`
`04:39.14`	`ink-`	`I didn't`
`04:39.21`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`file!`
`04:39.23`	`SarahEmm`	`Cybertank: uhh, digium and gentoo? huh? i run gentoo and have an x100p clone if that's what you mean`
`04:39.23`	`JerJer`	`or its $5.95 a month for "inside wiring protection"`
`04:39.24`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: huh?`
`04:39.29`	`DarthClue`	`timecop: it isn't difficult, but it does require a brain.`
`04:39.30`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`kram!`
`04:39.32`	`ink-`	`My brother got NuFone because a friend told him about it`
`04:39.35`	`kram`	`hi mr. mikej`
`04:39.40`	`DarthClue`	`evening kram`
`04:39.43`	`brookshire`	`mark: omg.. i think our hotel is haunted`
`04:39.44`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hello sir... you finally home?`
`04:39.46`	`DarthClue`	`evening MikeJ[Laptop]`
`04:39.47`	`mishehu`	`"inside wiring protection" sounds like a wonky condom`
`04:39.48`	`ink-`	`Any suggestions to a provider I should change?`
`04:39.53`	`Cybertank`	`SarahEmm: You helped me with zaptel problem before remember?`
`04:39.56`	`mishehu`	`MikeJ.`
`04:39.59`	`nwhit`	`timecop, but i do admit that there is a learning curve`
`04:40.02`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`?`
`04:40.04`	`SarahEmm`	`Cybertank: nope, sorry.. but i help a lot of people heh =-/`
`04:40.06`	`timecop`	`well, then it wont sell.`
`04:40.08`	`SarahEmm`	`Cybertank: what's the issue now?`
`04:40.24`	`recursion`	`is away`
`04:40.43`	`ink-`	`I guess I can change my VOIP Provider later`
`04:40.45`	`DarthClue`	`what won't sell? all you have to do is use your brain to make it work and then sell it, but you will need to get a brain first.`
`04:40.45`	`JerJer`	`ink-: try all of the providers and stick with the one or two that works the best for you`
`04:40.49`	`Cybertank`	`SarahEmm: I have a new dev kit from digium and trying to get it working on Gentoo... but /dev/zap doesn't show even after the udev readme changes.`
`04:40.59`	`ink-`	`But does anyone have suggestions?`
`04:41.10`	`JerJer`	`my suggestion would be biased`
`04:41.25`	`nwhit`	`timecop, it isn't that difficult to change`
`04:41.34`	`ink-`	`Alright, I'll go provider shopping`
`04:41.35`	`timecop`	`nwhit: obviously oyu have no idea`
`04:41.38`	`mishehu`	`Cybertank: sometimes udev takes a few seconds`
`04:41.44`	`SarahEmm`	`Cybertank: ahh, i don't use udev`
`04:41.45`	`ink-`	`But for now, I have Voip service`
`04:41.47`	`timecop`	`nwhit: the propblem is people using the system.`
`04:41.48`	`timecop`	`er problem too.`
`04:41.51`	`sivana`	`timecop: if you're trying to replace customer premise equipment, you will run into a brick wall`
`04:41.56`	`ink-`	`And I wanted to know about some cool stuff I can do without it`
`04:42.00`	`DarthClue`	`ink-: as would mine. JerJer runs nufone, i work with asterlink. there are others out there. It really depends on what you want out of the service.`
`04:42.07`	`nwhit`	`timecop, i do though have an idea`
`04:42.11`	`timecop`	`i'm not replacing anything. I'm just saying making asterisk sell as a key system is a waste of time.`
`04:42.14`	`kram`	`greets darth`
`04:42.31`	`SarahEmm`	`timecop: well.. it is a PBX.`
`04:42.34`	`DarthClue`	`evening kram, was nice to meet you in person at cluecon.`
`04:42.42`	`nwhit`	`timecop, because i am selling it ... not as a key system ... but as an enterprise pbx made for small businesses`
`04:42.44`	`mishehu`	`kram: so you just ran off after one day in chicago? didn't even take a little vacation?`
`04:43.02`	`Uberbot`	`Any recommendations for a linux voip client? sip or iax2.`
`04:43.06`	`nwhit`	`if you tell them that they can have the features of the big boys they wont miss the small stuff`
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`04:43.13`	`Netgeeks`	`It's not difficult at all to make asterisk work like a key system... t1 interface channel bank, and a little thought and walla key system`
`04:43.17`	`ink-`	`So? What are some of the cool thing I can do with Voip`
`04:43.21`	`file[laptop]`	`VODKA WHERE`
`04:43.27`	`recursion`	`is away`
`04:43.28`	`file[laptop]`	`oh, walla`
`04:44.51`	`mishehu`	`DarthClue: what's this preparing? you're always preparing! just sleep!`
`04:45.15`	`DarthClue`	`mishehu: some things require preparation, like deleting file.`
`04:45.28`	`ink-`	`I hate to repeat b ut`
`04:45.29`	`mishehu`	`file[laptop]: I own a parrot, and that's the only thing that should be looking over my shoulder. ;-)`
`04:45.32`	`ink-`	`So? What are some of the cool thing I can do with Voip`
`04:45.38`	`file[laptop]`	`mishehu: pirate!`
`04:45.40`	`file[laptop]`	`of software.`
`04:45.51`	`mishehu`	`ink-: use your imagination.`
`04:46.01`	`mishehu`	`file[laptop]: AAAAAAARRRRRRGH!`
`04:46.02`	`sivana`	`hehe`
`04:46.07`	`Netgeeks`	`or pay someone to use thiers`
`04:46.21`	`ink-`	`... I just want examples of some things I can do`
`04:46.31`	`mishehu`	`ink-: google it...`
`04:46.33`	`sivana`	`ink-: you can lower the cost of phone calls`
`04:46.34`	`SarahEmm`	`ink-: read the wiki`
`04:46.44`	`ink-`	`:D:D`
`04:47.17`	`sivana`	`ink-: and if you try really hard, VoIP will get you laid`
`04:47.20`	`mishehu`	`ink-: if you want me to tell you that I set up my VoIP system to cook french fries, give me the weather forecast, sue patent infringers, and predict the winning lotto numbers, you came to the wrong place...`
`04:47.26`	`ink-`	`o rly?`
`04:47.44`	`mishehu`	`sivana: yeah, but it might not be the type of "getting laid" that you want`
`04:47.45`	`mishehu`	`heh`
`04:48.01`	`sivana`	`hehe`
`04:48.09`	`file[laptop]`	`ooh getting laid`
`04:48.14`	`recursion`	`is away`
`04:48.21`	`SarahEmm`	`lol file`
`04:48.34`	`DarthClue`	`getting laid is pretty easy when you are married...just leave for a couple of days on a 'business trip' and then come back.`
`04:48.58`	`ink-`	`Or ask your wife for sex.`
`04:49.16`	`DarthClue`	`ink-: you obviously haven't been married long enough or at all.`
`04:49.20`	`ink-`	`Nope`
`04:49.22`	`nwhit`	`DarthClue, it works rather well :P`
`04:49.23`	`sivana`	`heh`
`04:49.25`	`ink-`	`And I am kinda glad :D`
`04:49.41`	`ink-`	`It seems like being married is just one big pain in the ass`
`04:49.58`	`DarthClue`	`ink-: well, i don't play that side of the field so i wouldn't know.`
`04:50.12`	`ink-`	`So your marriage is going well?`
`04:50.12`	`BhaalWK`	`HAHAHA`
`04:50.18`	`ink-`	`Haha`
`04:50.18`	`ink-`	`:D`
`04:50.20`	`ink-`	`I just got that.`
`04:50.25`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`nighty..`
`04:50.29`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`time to sleep`
`04:50.34`	`sivana`	`ink-: it takes creativity`
`04:50.35`	`DarthClue`	`nite mr j`
`04:50.37`	`file[laptop]`	`Mikeeeee`
`04:50.38`	`BhaalWK`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: Your wearing a nighty?`
`04:50.47`	`sivana`	`heh`
`04:50.52`	`DarthClue`	`yeah, creativity.`
`04:51.07`	`file[laptop]`	`I should sleep`
`04:51.09`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`BhaalWK, uhhhhh... thats kinda personal.`
`04:51.14`	`mago2-cn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:51.34`	`mago2-cn`	`i mean, i have .sbin files`
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`04:52.11`	`mishehu`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: are you wearing a sangoma shirt?`
`04:52.12`	`mishehu`	`heheh`
`04:52.28`	`file[laptop]`	`...a few days ago`
`04:52.28`	`file[laptop]`	`:P`
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`04:52.35`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`mishehu, no.. thundercats`
`04:52.46`	`Juggie`	`haha`
`04:52.59`	`mishehu`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: thunder thunder thunder THUNDERCATS ROOOOARRR`
`04:53.06`	`Juggie`	`thundercats was cool`
`04:53.09`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`indeed`
`04:53.09`	`Juggie`	`but not as cool as transformers`
`04:53.10`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`night`
`04:53.17`	`file[laptop]`	`ni ni`
`04:54.12`	`mishehu`	`damn. 1min55s to build pwlib on this a64, 11min16sec on this pIII-733...`
`04:55.29`	`DarthClue`	`chicago did me some good. i lost some weight and i even went out tonight and walked a bit and it didn't even phase me.`
`04:56.21`	`JerJer`	`mishehu: it only gets worse from there`
`04:57.33`	`ink-`	`Is there such a way to make a cellular phone-like VOIP phone?`
`04:57.37`	`ink-`	`OR a radio or something`
`04:58.24`	`sivana`	`ink-: look up Pulver`
`04:58.32`	`blitzrage`	`zup zup`
`04:58.34`	`blitzrage`	`kram: !`
`04:58.57`	`kram`	`http://www.computerwire.com/industries/research/?pid=CB962087%2D3A3C%2D4DC5%2D985C%2D8DB8115F4FB9`
`04:59.02`	`kram`	`goin out, bbiab`
`04:59.19`	`ink-`	`Pulber?`
`04:59.21`	`ink-`	`Pulver.`
`05:00.14`	`sivana`	`lol`
`05:01.01`	`ink-`	`Sorry, but I've got no idea what you're talking about :(`
`05:01.05`	`ink-`	`I'll look around the Wiki`
`05:02.42`	`mishehu`	`JerJer: I'd imagine at an exponential rate`
`05:02.57`	`mishehu`	`thank gawd I really don't have anything older than that 733mhz`
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`05:05.14`	`sivana`	`certainly an interesting article`
`05:06.11`	`ink-`	`Lame thng is, there is no need for a VoIp phone at a Wifi hotsopot`
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`05:18.05`	`BhaalWK`	`ARGH!!!!!!`
`05:18.19`	`BhaalWK`	`Its all over!!! ALL OVER!!!!`
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`05:31.42`	`gchv`	`is anybody speak spanish here?`
`05:40.11`	`timecop`	`http://store.yahoo.com/asteriskpbx/asbuedsili.html < lawl`
`05:43.09`	`jeh_work`	`has anyone done call redirecting using AMI?`
`05:43.59`	`jeh_work`	`i can only redirect to MeetMe extensions, all tries to redirect to a "normal" sip extension leads to asterisk just hanging up without any reason`
`05:44.53`	`jeh_work`	`this is for calls in a queue. i see the channel leave the queue and then the channel is hung up`
`05:46.05`	`SarahEmm`	`back!`
`05:46.18`	`timecop`	`number of people who care (and lets be honest here): 0`
`05:47.10`	`BhaalWK`	`side!`
`05:48.13`	`BhaalWK`	`timecop: It seems to me like you have had nothing constructive to say all day...`
`05:48.21`	`timecop`	`incorrect.`
`05:48.35`	`timecop`	`holy shit, the new freenode IRCD violates the RFC all over the place`
`05:48.54`	`timecop`	`maybe we'll need a special xshat version to connect to this place soon?`
`05:49.00`	`timecop`	`XSHAT-FREENODE EDITION`
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`05:56.51`	`tessier_`	`Hello all`
`05:57.54`	`tessier_`	`When chan_iax2 says "rejected connect attempt from 1.2.3.4"`
`05:58.00`	`tessier_`	`How do you go about debugging that?`
`05:58.14`	`tessier_`	`This has been my biggest complaint about * for ages.`
`05:58.26`	`tessier_`	`The most useless error messages I have ever seen`
`05:58.44`	`tessier_`	`It gives you no clue where the config error might be other than something having to do with the iax config (duh).`
`05:58.57`	`Netgeeks`	`iax2 debug`
`05:59.06`	`Netgeeks`	`and see what else is indicated`
`05:59.29`	`gchv`	`is anybody know any solution for t38?`
`05:59.40`	`tessier_`	`Netgeeks2: That is the first thing I tried.`
`05:59.57`	`tessier_`	`gchv: asterisk does not do t38. Use some other platform.`
`06:00.22`	`gchv`	`any sugestion?`
`06:00.24`	`tessier_`	`Netgeeks: With iax2 debug on it doesn't tell me anything more than with it off when I make a call.`
`06:00.54`	`Netgeeks`	`try ethereal then to see whats going on`
`06:01.00`	`Netgeeks`	`debug from the other side`
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`06:01.41`	`gchv`	`I know that * doesnt support t38, but, what can I do to send and receive faxes with asterisk>`
`06:01.42`	`gchv`	`?`
`06:02.44`	`gchv`	`I have * as sip server and many addpac clients`
`06:04.03`	`gchv`	`addpac is a korean equipment that supports t38, and bypass protocol, but I can't send and receive faxes`
`06:04.15`	`gchv`	`any posible solution with *`
`06:04.16`	`gchv`	`?`
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`06:13.35`	`tessier_`	`Netgeeks: Firing up ethereal should be totally unnecessary for debugging something like this. :(`
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`06:14.04`	`tessier_`	`It should just tell me why it is rejecting the call.`
`06:15.48`	`Inv_arp`	`hmm im tryin to send the call id from an env variable... ID=${ENV(CALLID)} ... still doesnt come up on my home phone but when i hard code ID=5551212, it it works fine`
`06:16.01`	`blitzrage`	`unnessecary? ethereal is almost the first step in debugging any problem`
`06:19.03`	`tessier_`	`Ditched IAX and used SIP and it connected the first time. Nice.`
`06:19.15`	`tessier_`	`ethereal is only the first step when the software itself has no debugging capability`
`06:19.29`	`Piranha-`	`hey all`
`06:19.51`	`Piranha-`	`any ideas why asterisk doesnt want to load my g723.so codec file on startup, but will load it when I specify it`
`06:20.21`	`nusse`	`tried noload?`
`06:20.54`	`Piranha-`	`noload?`
`06:21.07`	`Piranha-`	`I want to load it`
`06:21.09`	`blitzrage`	`ummmm, that makes no sense - that'd cause it to NOT load`
`06:21.16`	`Piranha-`	`hehe yeh`
`06:21.24`	`nusse`	`oh, i cant read`
`06:21.37`	`blitzrage`	`when you do a asterisk -vvvvc does it give you an error?`
`06:21.40`	`Piranha-`	`load => chan_g723.so in my modules.conf file gives me`
`06:21.40`	`Piranha-`	`Aug 9 00:16:02 WARNING[15765]: Cannot open "/usr/lib/asterisk/modules/chan_g723.so"`
`06:21.41`	`Piranha-`	`Aug 9 00:16:02 WARNING[15765]: Loading module chan_g723.so failed!`
`06:21.45`	`Piranha-`	`ill cehck`
`06:21.53`	`blitzrage`	`you just pasted it :)`
`06:22.06`	`Piranha-`	`but... when I load it when asterisk is running, it works`
`06:22.17`	`blitzrage`	`same error when you do, 'load chan_g723.so' ?`
`06:22.32`	`blitzrage`	`how strange - sounds like a dependency isn't loaded yet`
`06:22.37`	`blitzrage`	`try putting it at the very end`
`06:22.48`	`Piranha-`	`global?`
`06:22.55`	`blitzrage`	`before that`
`06:22.56`	`jeh_work`	`does anyone happen to know of some RTFM resource for call redirecting using AMI? this is the only link i've found, and it deals with a special case that doesn't concern me:http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Manager+API+Action+Redirect`
`06:22.58`	`Piranha-`	`aigh`
`06:23.25`	`Piranha-`	`same thing`
`06:23.36`	`Piranha-`	`ill try loading manually with verbose at 4`
`06:23.43`	`blitzrage`	`sorry... 2:23am here - bedtime`
`06:23.51`	`Piranha-`	`k lata`
`06:24.33`	`Piranha-`	`maybe its autoloading then`
`06:24.34`	`Piranha-`	`Aug 9 00:23:57 WARNING[15816]: loader.c:238 ast_load_resource: Module 'codec_g723.so' already exists`
`06:25.05`	`Piranha-`	`that does make sense`
`06:26.00`	`blitzrage`	`do you have it in modules.conf twice? do you have autoload=yes ?`
`06:26.12`	`Piranha-`	`yeah the autoload is on`
`06:26.16`	`Piranha-`	`so that would be why`
`06:26.30`	`blitzrage`	`autoload=yes means all modules /var/lib/asterisk/modules will be loaded - you don't need to specify it specifically`
`06:26.31`	`Piranha-`	`ahh hence all the noloads in the file ;)`
`06:26.41`	`blitzrage`	`do a 'show modules' to see loaded modules`
`06:26.46`	`blitzrage`	`yep`
`06:26.55`	`Piranha-`	`yep there it is`
`06:27.03`	`blitzrage`	`you only ever need a load => when its set to autoload=no`
`06:27.11`	`Piranha-`	`cool.. thanks`
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`06:30.03`	`blitzrage`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:30.41`	`recursion`	`there's katty`
`06:31.01`	`recursion`	`that was at about 4am`
`06:32.57`	`jeh_work`	`what does a "soft hangup" mean?`
`06:33.25`	`Piranha-`	`you dont hurt the other person`
`06:33.27`	`jeh_work`	`that could be what kills my redircts, as immediately after that the clients calls end`
`06:39.35`	`mag_um`	`hi all`
`06:41.41`	`jeh_work`	`oh, i found my problem. my redirect apparently was missing a "priority" parameter. no idea what that one does`
`06:41.57`	`jeh_work`	`setting it to "1" made asterisk do the redirect just fine`
`06:42.28`	`recursion`	`JunK-Y caught me as I was putting my glasses back on after sleeping on the table`
`06:42.34`	`recursion`	`http://www.midsouthmarketplace.com/~krice/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album01&id=IMG_1967`
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`06:50.43`	`mag_um`	`hi`
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`06:51.06`	`mag_um`	`anyone know how to use fax with asterisk`
`06:51.23`	`mag_um`	`i"m trying ot use hylafax`
`06:51.40`	`mag_um`	`bt i dono hw to configure with pri....`
`06:51.45`	`Maxx4life`	`mag_um: You normally just put a piece of paper in the fax machine type the number and hit send....`
`06:52.46`	`mag_um`	`how to configure in extension.conf`
`06:54.16`	`Maxx4life`	`http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20fax`
`06:55.19`	`mag_um`	`thanks. let me take a look.`
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`06:57.33`	`h3x`	`the short answer is you cant go hylafax -> asterisk`
`06:59.39`	`argos73`	`h3x: unless you go "pri -> analog -> hylafax and deal with the problems", right?`
`06:59.49`	`argos73`	`(similar problem being worked on)`
`06:59.54`	`h3x`	`haha somebody got pc2phone.com and banner'ed it to iconnecthere`
`07:00.15`	`h3x`	`yep well now theres a really expensive solution for the problem`
`07:00.22`	`h3x`	`aculab just came out with drivers for their prosody cards`
`07:00.36`	`h3x`	`so you can use the dsp's to do echo can, fax, etc with *`
`07:00.53`	`h3x`	`a board to handle 500 channels of fax transmit "only" costs about 15k`
`07:01.08`	`h3x`	`which considering what else is out there, i think is a bargain`
`07:01.18`	`h3x`	`actually that would be g.711 voip faxing`
`07:01.25`	`recursion`	`is away`
`07:01.30`	`h3x`	`its going to do t.38 soon too`
`07:02.06`	`h3x`	`eventually it will allow you to use the board for codec translation too`
`07:02.23`	`argos73`	`we're going to replace our phone sys pretty soon (* is a candidate), but this fax thing is a real thorn...`
`07:02.43`	`argos73`	`medical info, so it needs to "just work"`
`07:02.43`	`h3x`	`argos: if you want to do "real" faxing through asterisk just send it through ulaw`
`07:02.58`	`argos73`	`kinda what i thought..`
`07:03.01`	`h3x`	`use a sipura spa hooked up to a fax machine`
`07:03.03`	`h3x`	`it works great`
`07:03.08`	`h3x`	`iaxys dont do a good job with fax`
`07:03.10`	`Maxx4life`	`I second that`
`07:03.10`	`argos73`	`$$$, but it's not my money!`
`07:03.20`	`Maxx4life`	`2nd the fax w/sipura`
`07:03.27`	`h3x`	`the sipura? are you kidding? they are the cheapest ATAs around that work`
`07:03.34`	`h3x`	`two lines for 80 bucks`
`07:03.35`	`argos73`	`now about cisco ata-186? I have a bunch...`
`07:04.23`	`h3x`	`well yeah`
`07:04.37`	`argos73`	`same beast, different designer... :)`
`07:04.38`	`h3x`	`but sipura will do t.38 soon`
`07:04.57`	`argos73`	`cool`
`07:05.05`	`h3x`	`after a firmware update comes out some day`
`07:05.10`	`h3x`	`twiddle thumbs`
`07:05.15`	`argos73`	`hehe`
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`07:05.34`	`argos73`	`rub the lantern...`
`07:05.40`	`Praktikant01`	`good morning`
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`07:07.00`	`h3x`	`it might be possibel that it does t.38 now`
`07:07.02`	`h3x`	`theres a new firmware release`
`07:07.10`	`h3x`	`i just dont have any spa2100s here to test it on`
`07:07.19`	`h3x`	`its on 3.2.1 now`
`07:08.54`	`argos73`	`will investigate... tnx`
`07:10.44`	`h3x`	`of course i failed ot mention that asterisk can't do t.38`
`07:10.46`	`Praktikant01`	`anyone here knows howto configure CLIR in asterisk using a zaptel-device (hfc-s)`
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`07:11.23`	`h3x`	`you know, the dumbest mistake digium made marketing wise is their revenue stream comes from selling people tdm cards`
`07:11.37`	`h3x`	`it isnt going to be too many more years before nobody is going to need them`
`07:11.37`	`h3x`	`heh`
`07:12.11`	`h3x`	`i suppose in the smaller countries`
`07:12.47`	`h3x`	`well i suppose theres a lot of other things they can be used for...`
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`07:17.19`	`h3x`	`. Added preliminary T.38 Fax Relay support. To enable on either Line 1 or Line 2,`
`07:17.20`	`h3x`	`<PROTECTED>`
`07:17.29`	`h3x`	`how about that, the spa2100 has some t.38 now`
`07:17.39`	`h3x`	`dammit now i have to buy another one of those`
`07:18.30`	`argos73`	`heh - you never know... I still use an old 300/1200-bps modem occasionally... really stupid, and pretty new, piece of equipment i need to talk to...`
`07:20.16`	`Xumpi`	`goood morning ! gotta dash 2 work!`
`07:21.22`	`argos73`	`he obviously didn't want to stick around for the flood of congradulations awiting him.. :)`
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`07:23.36`	`argos73`	`oooh! a high-speed car chase and a call for counterfeit currency in the same night! small-town suburbia is fantastic!`
`07:23.48`	`argos73`	`(gotta love scanners)`
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`07:37.53`	`af_`	`I don't understand what monitor() does....`
`07:37.56`	`Inv_arp`	`tryin to send the call id from an env variable... ID=${ENV(CALLID)} ... still doesnt come up on my home phone but when i hard code ID=5551212, it it works fine`
`07:38.23`	`Inv_arp`	`exported the CALLID var somethin else i need to do`
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`07:44.18`	`SarahEmm`	`hihi`
`07:44.32`	`litage_`	`howdy SarahEmm`
`07:44.41`	`SarahEmm`	`hihi litage_`
`07:44.42`	`SarahEmm`	`how's yous?`
`07:45.03`	`litage_`	`perty good. my company just got a new orifice :P`
`07:45.12`	`litage_`	`uhhh OFFICE. yeah, ummm...that's right...`
`07:45.26`	`litage_`	`et toi, Madame SarahEmm?`
`07:45.55`	`litage_`	`any suggestions or experiences with load balancing?`
`07:46.16`	`SarahEmm`	`et toi? huh?`
`07:47.04`	`litage_`	`SarahEmm: and you? (twas french)`
`07:47.45`	`SarahEmm`	`oh`
`07:47.47`	`SarahEmm`	`i'm goood`
`07:47.48`	`SarahEmm`	`:)`
`07:47.58`	`SarahEmm`	`staying up late to watch Discovery land heh`
`07:48.06`	`SarahEmm`	`and working on my *oIP systems :)`
`07:48.19`	`litage_`	`what's the "" in "oIP"?`
`07:48.26`	`SarahEmm`	`nope`
`07:48.30`	`SarahEmm`	`oops`
`07:48.31`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh`
`07:48.34`	`SarahEmm`	`V/TTY`
`07:49.01`	`litage_`	`TTYoIP? isn't that just the equivalent of ssh'ing?`
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`07:55.26`	`SarahEmm`	`litage_: no`
`07:55.41`	`SarahEmm`	`litage_: it's making TTY calls from internet means`
`07:55.49`	`SarahEmm`	`like, converting a telnet connection to TTY to talk to someone`
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`08:00.17`	`litage_`	`TTY is for mute people? or am i wayyy off on this one?`
`08:00.51`	`SarahEmm`	`deaf/hoh/non-speaking yes.`
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`08:02.17`	`litage_`	`awesome possum`
`08:02.31`	`schlitzer_ed`	`is it possible that one incomming call ring on different machines?`
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`08:03.54`	`dudes`	`schlitzer_ed - You can set it so it rings one then if one fails you can ring another`
`08:04.04`	`dudes`	`I dont' know if you can ring two at once though`
`08:04.05`	`pussfeller`	`yes, delimate them by &`
`08:05.02`	`schlitzer_ed`	`can you give a example please?`
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`08:05.33`	`dudes`	`I can message you an example`
`08:05.35`	`dudes`	`is that ok?`
`08:05.47`	`pussfeller`	`Dial(SIP/1phone&SIP/2phone,15,r)`
`08:05.48`	`schlitzer_ed`	`yes`
`08:06.38`	`schlitzer_ed`	`"1phone&SIP" are the two "phones" the call should ring, rigth?`
`08:09.30`	`Delta34`	`anybody using an ethernet based channel bank`
`08:10.17`	`dudes`	`Aren't most channel banks using some type of CAT5?`
`08:10.34`	`dudes`	`To a T1 board anyway`
`08:11.25`	`Delta34`	`i was thinking i rather connect thru ethernet then use a t1`
`08:11.41`	`dudes`	`good luck`
`08:12.37`	`SarahEmm`	`Delta34: so you want a large ATA, not a channel bank?`
`08:13.39`	`dudes`	`I think he wants to run a channel bank thur a switch/hub to multi-sources ... ???`
`08:14.32`	`dudes`	`I don't know ... Whiskey is good though (I know)`
`08:14.42`	`Delta34`	`yeh large ata`
`08:14.50`	`SarahEmm`	`Delta34: okay.. that's not a channel bank then :)`
`08:14.58`	`Delta34`	`i have like 6 fax lines at the office`
`08:15.07`	`Delta34`	`and couple of modems`
`08:15.13`	`Delta34`	`can u recommend one`
`08:15.22`	`Delta34`	`most ata only 2-4 port i think`
`08:15.22`	`SarahEmm`	`a large ATA? no`
`08:15.24`	`SarahEmm`	`uhh`
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`08:15.27`	`SarahEmm`	`you want to run a modem over VoIP?`
`08:15.30`	`SarahEmm`	`what speed?`
`08:15.55`	`Delta34`	`yeh i want to run over modem over voip`
`08:16.02`	`dudes`	`They make some 16 port ATA's`
`08:16.09`	`SarahEmm`	`Delta34: what speed modem?`
`08:16.14`	`Delta34`	`56 k`
`08:16.17`	`SarahEmm`	`you're dreaming`
`08:16.19`	`SarahEmm`	`won't happen`
`08:16.20`	`dudes`	`haha`
`08:16.27`	`SarahEmm`	`TTY might work`
`08:16.28`	`SarahEmm`	`that's 45bps :P`
`08:16.39`	`SarahEmm`	`28.8 or anything is Not Happening`
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`08:16.44`	`SarahEmm`	`Fax is hard enough to make work`
`08:16.44`	`Delta34`	`doesnt need to be fast i guess`
`08:16.52`	`SarahEmm`	`Delta34: i think you'd be lucky to get 2400 working`
`08:16.58`	`SarahEmm`	`you don't want modem over VoIP, trust me`
`08:17.04`	`Delta34`	`i tried cisco ata188`
`08:17.06`	`dudes`	`It'd be cheaper and more reliable using the telco (land lines/POTS)`
`08:17.15`	`SarahEmm`	`Delta34: and?`
`08:17.30`	`Delta34`	`worked out fine, was able to send and receive fax`
`08:17.41`	`Delta34`	`but only 2 ports`
`08:17.44`	`SarahEmm`	`fax, okay`
`08:17.48`	`SarahEmm`	`that works if you get thing sright`
`08:17.54`	`SarahEmm`	`you won't get a modem going tho, at a reasonable speed`
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`08:18.16`	`SarahEmm`	`read the wiki`
`08:18.22`	`SarahEmm`	`Delta34: http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Analog+Telephone+Adapters`
`08:18.39`	`SarahEmm`	`there are likely better ways to do this than VoIP to ATA to standard POTS fax`
`08:18.46`	`SarahEmm`	`but if you want to do it that way and can make it work, there are big ATAs`
`08:18.51`	`dudes`	`I looked into using VOIP for faxing (I said fuck it after reading the first couple para's on the wiki's`
`08:19.09`	`SarahEmm`	`yeah.`
`08:19.26`	`dudes`	`But I never use faxing`
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`08:19.42`	`dudes`	`I'll get things faxed to me. But e-mail works for faxing`
`08:19.57`	`dudes`	`And they have online services that are pretty cheap for faxing too`
`08:24.59`	`Zgarbi`	`I need an advice, what is best and cheap (compromised) solution for office asterisk... to buy which phone adapters? if I have about 30 extensions in same place?`
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`08:26.16`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: err, phone adapters? why not use VoIP phones?`
`08:27.15`	`Zgarbi`	`this is good idea, but are they works pretty good and is this solution cheap then adapters?`
`08:27.25`	`Delta34`	`i guess i just stick with the cisco ata's and try to get away from analog`
`08:28.00`	`Delta34`	`any recommendations on wireless sip phones or conference phones?`
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`08:28.24`	`Zgarbi`	`I like Orient I-100 IP Phone`
`08:28.43`	`Zgarbi`	`by the face, but don't know price and working conditions`
`08:28.49`	`SarahEmm`	`Delta34: err.. get big ATAs if you want, that's up to you :) i gave you a link to lots :)`
`08:29.04`	`SarahEmm`	`Delta34: most SIP wireless phones aren't that great... a lot of people use an ATA with a cordless POTS for that`
`08:29.08`	`SarahEmm`	`for conferencing you want polycom.`
`08:29.14`	`dudes`	`Delta34 - they are cheaper per port on bigger ATA's than the smaller ones`
`08:29.15`	`dudes`	`check ebay`
`08:29.20`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: cost varies depending what you need.`
`08:29.35`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: but you'll get a lot more functionality from VoIP phones rather than POTS phones with ATAs or a channel bank`
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`08:29.58`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: if you really want to do POTS phones, you'll need 2 channel banks and 2 T1/E1 ports on the asterisk machine, to plug into the channel banks`
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`08:30.26`	`SarahEmm`	`that'll give you ~48 FXS ports (assuming T1)`
`08:31.02`	`Zgarbi`	`one E1 is not 30 channels?`
`08:31.13`	`dudes`	`she's talking about T1's`
`08:31.26`	`Zgarbi`	`but T1 is less then E1`
`08:31.36`	`RoyKa`	`anyone that knows how I can stress test a server with SIP traffic?`
`08:31.39`	`dudes`	`really???`
`08:31.42`	`RoyKa`	`T1 == 24`
`08:31.44`	`dudes`	`I didn't know that =o`
`08:31.46`	`RoyKa`	`24b+d`
`08:31.47`	`dudes`	`hehe`
`08:31.55`	`SarahEmm`	`i know RoyKa`
`08:32.01`	`RoyKa`	`>lart dudes`
`08:32.07`	`SarahEmm`	`yes it is Zgarbi`
`08:32.08`	`RoyKa`	`~lart dudes`
`08:32.15`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: i live in canada, sorry we use T1 here.`
`08:32.25`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: if you have exactly 30 phones that's okay but that leaves you with 0 expansion`
`08:32.48`	`dudes`	`Get a damn E1 channel Bank and configure your damn shit to use E1's`
`08:32.52`	`dudes`	`Pretty simple`
`08:32.57`	`dudes`	`not hard ..........`
`08:33.00`	`SarahEmm`	`agreed`
`08:33.04`	`SarahEmm`	`except that leaves 0 expansion`
`08:33.14`	`Delta34`	`royka, u can use sipp`
`08:33.15`	`SarahEmm`	`i'd almost never want to deploy a system like that`
`08:33.20`	`SarahEmm`	`he has 30 phones`
`08:33.21`	`dudes`	`SarahEmm - well a E1 is more than a T1 =0`
`08:33.22`	`Zgarbi`	`:) but then you can add sipphones`
`08:33.26`	`SarahEmm`	`dudes: i know this`
`08:33.30`	`RoyKa`	`Delta34: do you know a link/howto?`
`08:33.34`	`dudes`	`I know you know`
`08:34.09`	`RoyKa`	`"SIPp has no facility to originate audio/media, it can just send back the`
`08:34.09`	`RoyKa`	`media it receives on its RTP port, more like an RTP proxy."`
`08:34.13`	`dudes`	`SarahEmm - it was explained to me earlier .... which I already knew too. I also got nuked (crazy)`
`08:34.20`	`RoyKa`	`Delta34: so do you know how i can do that?`
`08:34.24`	`RoyKa`	`perhaps another asterisk server.....`
`08:35.25`	`SarahEmm`	`RoyKa: what are you trying to do?`
`08:35.35`	`Zgarbi`	`I never hear about channel bank, is this cheap solution? any hardware description?`
`08:35.50`	`Delta34`	`i had it call the * that had an extension that played a sound file or wait 30 seconds`
`08:36.18`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: how do you define 'cheap'`
`08:36.22`	`Delta34`	`i was able to substain 250+ simultanes sip calls`
`08:36.29`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: you need at least one E1 port and one channel bank, possibly two of each`
`08:36.48`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: you would be using plain analog phones then too, which would give you likely less functionality than VoIP`
`08:36.52`	`Zgarbi`	`what is that hardware name?`
`08:36.54`	`SarahEmm`	`still, there are advantages.`
`08:36.55`	`Delta34`	`could of went more then that i'm sure, but my load tester rand out of sockets`
`08:37.00`	`dudes`	`Delta34 - I've had more than 280 sip to zaps on a Dual P4`
`08:37.01`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: there are lots of brands. adtran makes some.`
`08:37.02`	`af_`	`is it posible to Monitor() a conference? (meetme)`
`08:37.11`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: for T1/E1 cards with * you could use Digium or Sangoma ones`
`08:37.23`	`dudes`	`af_ - zapbarge/chanspy`
`08:37.49`	`dudes`	`Sangoma's are better IMO`
`08:37.56`	`SarahEmm`	`everyone has a different O on that ;)`
`08:38.32`	`Delta34`	`royka, read this wiki http://voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20dimensioning`
`08:38.46`	`Zgarbi`	`ok ok, thanks, I know digium makes PCI adapters for E1/T1, then I need to connect it to demultiplexer, so this demultiplexer is brended by whom?`
`08:38.56`	`dudes`	`I've used mostly Digium cards (try to send them business) which I have sent them more than 20,000 in business in the last 4 months ... But Sangoma cards are good`
`08:38.56`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: as i just said, lots of companies make them`
`08:39.12`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: Adtran makes some`
`08:40.47`	`RoyKa`	`Delta34: I'm already running a rather large asterisk system, and we need to change to HEAD, so the reason for stess testing is not only to see how much it'll take, but also to identify bugs`
`08:41.03`	`dudes`	`Now only if they were nicer ... IE fix app_queue/Chan_agent sooner`
`08:41.13`	`RoyKa`	`Delta34: see http://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=3986 for a rather unpleasant bug of mine`
`08:41.15`	`SarahEmm`	`wooo, looks like they're going to take the second landing window at KSC :)`
`08:41.17`	`Zgarbi`	`what is approximately price for digium E1 and demultiplexer?`
`08:41.29`	`RoyKa`	`demux as in channel bank?`
`08:41.31`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: how many phones?`
`08:41.31`	`dudes`	`Zgarbi - look it up`
`08:41.38`	`dudes`	`fuck`
`08:41.57`	`SarahEmm`	`http://store.yahoo.com/asteriskpbx/noname.html`
`08:42.04`	`SarahEmm`	`^-- look there Zgarbi that's digium coards`
`08:42.05`	`SarahEmm`	`boards`
`08:43.22`	`Zgarbi`	`and for Adtran? does they run website?`
`08:43.22`	`Maxx4life`	`Sarah: Watchin Nasa Feed right now`
`08:43.42`	`dudes`	`Zgarbi - google.com`
`08:43.59`	`Zgarbi`	`ok dude ;)`
`08:44.03`	`h3x`	`yippeee`
`08:44.15`	`h3x`	`they just emailed me asterisk drivers for aculab boards`
`08:44.39`	`SarahEmm`	`Maxx4life: me too`
`08:44.43`	`SarahEmm`	`Maxx4life: sooo interesting`
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`08:44.50`	`litage`	`if zap is just drivers for hardware, why does conversion sometimes need to be done?`
`08:44.50`	`h3x`	`hahahaha`
`08:44.53`	`h3x`	`i knew it`
`08:44.57`	`Maxx4life`	`sarah: when did they say they were going to fire engines?`
`08:45.06`	`dudes`	`litage - because zap is slin`
`08:45.09`	`SarahEmm`	`Maxx4life: i was kept up lastnight even after the landings were both called off by them debating the formatting of a paragraph, whether it should have been indented :P`
`08:45.15`	`SarahEmm`	`it sounds boring but somehow it's interesting :)`
`08:45.20`	`h3x`	`its like the dialogic drivers`
`08:45.29`	`Maxx4life`	`sarah: I agree!`
`08:45.35`	`Maxx4life`	`or as Eileen just said.. I concur!`
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`08:45.41`	`dudes`	`SarahEmm - anything involving space is interesting`
`08:46.06`	`festr_`	`hello`
`08:46.06`	`festr_`	`problem is about dialplan and sorting rules which can be shown in CLI: show dialplan. I have many rules in context [all]. One of`
`08:46.06`	`litage`	`dudes: slin?`
`08:46.08`	`SarahEmm`	`Maxx4life: deorbit burn is at 0437CDT`
`08:46.09`	`festr_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:46.10`	`SarahEmm`	`starts then i mean`
`08:46.15`	`festr_`	`all remaining various rules startnig _2 is sorted before _2XXXXXXXX execpt the _2710095XX`
`08:46.18`	`festr_`	`any idea?`
`08:46.31`	`Maxx4life`	`roger!`
`08:47.01`	`SarahEmm`	`touchdown at 0542CDT if they take that window`
`08:47.03`	`dudes`	`litage - it's the native codec for ZAP ... so let's say you want to run GSM/G729/Ulaw/ALAW/G726/ILBC and so ... you'd have to trancode`
`08:47.07`	`SarahEmm`	`which looks good :)`
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`08:47.44`	`ai-a[afk]`	`hello Pizza: has onjoin msg script.`
`08:47.48`	`dudes`	`<PROTECTED>`
`08:47.57`	`Maxx4life`	`Sarah: about a hour from now then...I think there going to for it`
`08:48.12`	`SarahEmm`	`Maxx4life: looks like they are. they started fluid loading a few minutes ago`
`08:48.14`	`SarahEmm`	`which is a good sign`
`08:48.16`	`Xumpi`	`good morning vietname!`
`08:48.20`	`Maxx4life`	`yep`
`08:48.46`	`Zgarbi`	`SarahEmm i was on site, is this hardw named ATLAS?`
`08:49.05`	`litage`	`dudes: so the conversion/transcoding occurs between slin and gsm/g729/ulaw/etc, not between slin and sip/iax/etc?`
`08:49.23`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: is the ATLAS a channel bank?`
`08:49.33`	`dudes`	`litage - sip/iax use other codecs ... not slin`
`08:49.42`	`SarahEmm`	`litage: 'sip/iax/etc' are not codecs, they are transports for the audio`
`08:49.43`	`ai-a`	`is there a simple windows based application that will dial a IAX connection thats easy to use, no login's just a simple edit box and [connect] button.`
`08:49.51`	`SarahEmm`	`litage: i.e. you use ulaw over IAX2 or whatever`
`08:50.08`	`litage`	`SarahEmm: that's what i thought, but wasn't sure after what dudes said`
`08:50.13`	`dudes`	`Sarah is on top of this`
`08:50.17`	`SarahEmm`	`lol`
`08:50.20`	`SarahEmm`	`that's ironic`
`08:50.26`	`litage`	`so why does ZAP use slin instead of gsm/g729/ulaw/etc?`
`08:50.30`	`dudes`	`I'm coming off of a good buzz ...`
`08:50.37`	`SarahEmm`	`because that's what the boards use litage`
`08:50.44`	`dudes`	`should have got a liter of whiskey ... a pint isn't enought`
`08:50.50`	`SarahEmm`	`so they then convert it to whatever you want on the other end`
`08:51.17`	`dudes`	`slin to ulaw/alaw are very low resource (both are pretty much raw audio data)`
`08:51.19`	`litage`	`which hardware uses slin? just digium?`
`08:51.39`	`SarahEmm`	`i dunno what other gear uses, if not slin it's very similar`
`08:51.39`	`dudes`	`litage - most hardware uses raw data`
`08:51.45`	`Xumpi`	`correction : gooooooooooooooooooooooood morning vietnam!`
`08:51.54`	`dudes`	`Xumpi - RW`
`08:52.34`	`litage`	`slin == raw data?`
`08:53.18`	`Maxx4life`	`SaraEmm: update me when they have more info or when they have live footage... I'm turning the music back on`
`08:53.40`	`Zgarbi`	`SarahEmm I found, it's named Total Access and it's chasis with modules`
`08:54.53`	`dudes`	`litage - basically ...`
`08:55.24`	`dudes`	`litage - for that technology it's raw == like sip/iax ulaw/alaw is raw`
`08:55.51`	`Zgarbi`	`SarahEmm but here are "Total Access 924" with 24 ports (no chasis)`
`08:56.14`	`dudes`	`holy shit`
`08:56.17`	`dudes`	`I can't believe that`
`08:56.56`	`h3x`	`the cheapest and best thing is the carrier access ab-1`
`08:56.59`	`h3x`	`if you just need 24 voice only`
`08:57.01`	`Zgarbi`	`dudes what wrong with you? any problems?`
`08:57.20`	`dudes`	`Possibly ...`
`08:57.32`	`h3x`	`i just realized what i need to do`
`08:57.40`	`h3x`	`you know what, every voip gateway product there is, sucks`
`08:57.50`	`h3x`	`like t1 and ds3 products`
`08:57.53`	`dudes`	`h3x - yea`
`08:57.58`	`litage`	`dudes: that didn't make much sense..you said that "raw == like sip/iax" and then said "ulaw/alaw is raw"....?`
`08:58.27`	`h3x`	`the max tnt is the only one thats cheap, but not if youw ant to use it legally`
`08:58.46`	`h3x`	`and isnt really supported anymore, and uses too much electricity, and and and`
`08:58.49`	`dudes`	`litage - slin is raw audio data for ZAP (a technology) ... SIP/IAX ulaw/alaw is raw audio data for them`
`08:59.12`	`h3x`	`if somebody made a $9000 canned solution for a ds3`
`08:59.14`	`sskyles`	`None of my Carrier Access stuff sucks at all!`
`08:59.25`	`h3x`	`and like a $1500 quad t1 solution that has dsps`
`08:59.38`	`h3x`	`then people would actually buy iot`
`08:59.44`	`dudes`	`telephony anything isn't cheap`
`08:59.49`	`dudes`	`gotta love it`
`08:59.49`	`h3x`	`well`
`09:00.07`	`h3x`	`if you think about it, the only reason people are buying digium etc. t1 cards is because they are cheap`
`09:00.21`	`h3x`	`but if you figure out what it costs to buy a computer to put with it to do 4 t1s of anything that involves compression forget it`
`09:00.49`	`dudes`	`this is true ...`
`09:00.54`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: uhh.. 'chassis with modules' doesn't help`
`09:00.57`	`SarahEmm`	`you need a channel bank`
`09:01.01`	`SarahEmm`	`if it says channel bank`
`09:01.03`	`SarahEmm`	`that's what you need`
`09:01.06`	`SarahEmm`	`if not, that's not what you need.`
`09:01.17`	`h3x`	`and theres no legit way to do g.723.1 on asterisk ... well besides license stuff from sipro`
`09:01.34`	`dudes`	`But even though one can think digium/sangoma =cheap ... it is a good way to get shit done`
`09:01.36`	`h3x`	`and even if you do then you cant get many channels of it`
`09:01.43`	`SarahEmm`	`h3x: well, digium does 4port with DSPs, but it's like $2400 not $1500... still not bad.`
`09:01.51`	`h3x`	`sara: it only does echo cans`
`09:01.56`	`SarahEmm`	`true`
`09:01.59`	`h3x`	`If you have to pay 10 bucks a channel for g.729`
`09:02.05`	`h3x`	`thats 960 bucks right out the door`
`09:02.12`	`h3x`	`plus 2400 for a board`
`09:02.16`	`h3x`	`2000 for a computer`
`09:02.26`	`dudes`	`and get 80 transcodes to a dual P4 /w HT ecks!`
`09:02.30`	`SarahEmm`	`if the DSP did g.729 you'd be paying the license fees for the board anyway`
`09:02.31`	`h3x`	`so it costs you 5 grand to build a quad t1/e1 gateway`
`09:02.41`	`h3x`	`it dosent though they are echo can chips not real DSPs`
`09:02.52`	`SarahEmm`	`doh!`
`09:02.58`	`SarahEmm`	`no landing at KSC`
`09:03.00`	`SarahEmm`	`pushed back again`
`09:03.04`	`SarahEmm`	`to Edwards this time`
`09:03.21`	`h3x`	`it costs like $1.20 a channel for G.729 if you pay the 25k up front`
`09:03.37`	`h3x`	`if you sold a hardware dsp thingy and charged like $4 a channel extra for g.729`
`09:03.37`	`dudes`	`h3x - but a good sip carrier with g729 support is always a good fall back`
`09:03.50`	`h3x`	`yeah but those "sip carriers" need something to go tdm`
`09:04.01`	`h3x`	`the other problem is theres no hardware product that does voip -> voip codec translation that i know of`
`09:04.03`	`h3x`	`you have to do tdm -> voip`
`09:04.08`	`dudes`	`h3x - but supply and demand even things out`
`09:04.10`	`SarahEmm`	`Maxx4life: second window waved off`
`09:04.17`	`SarahEmm`	`Maxx4life: they're switching to Edwards`
`09:04.24`	`dudes`	`isn't democracy great`
`09:04.40`	`h3x`	`well, all im saying is there needs to be something in between like, a Sonus box, and a asterisk box`
`09:04.52`	`*** join/#asterisk _[MUPPETS]Gonzo (I=gonzo@80.69.47.16)`
`09:04.55`	`h3x`	`low prices = volume`
`09:05.01`	`dudes`	`h3x - I know what you are saying`
`09:05.23`	`_[MUPPETS]Gonzo`	`[11:04:45] <Pizza> http://www.videoturk.tr.gs Free Porno Videos <--- well, no thanks, Pizza :)`
`09:05.29`	`h3x`	`all of that high end stuff gets outdated coz they want you to use all sorts of proprietary stuff with them`
`09:05.32`	`dudes`	`I get sick of people bitching about price ... but the price you pay (if thought out) isn't anything in comparison to what you make.`
`09:05.42`	`h3x`	`and many of the carriers havent deployed anything but g.711 like global crossing and XO`
`09:05.48`	`h3x`	`becuase they dont wanna pay for DSPs and stuff`
`09:05.49`	`dudes`	`h3x - that's why we have open source stuff =0`
`09:06.07`	`*** join/#asterisk PIOCH (N=chatzill@195.221.153.141)`
`09:06.08`	`h3x`	`Yeah, but its not like you can feasibly set up a OC-12s worth of asterisk boxes`
`09:06.12`	`dudes`	`Say hello to our little friend (as my late friend would say)`
`09:06.26`	`dudes`	`h3x - why not`
`09:06.33`	`h3x`	`it costs more to do that than buy a sonus probably`
`09:06.38`	`h3x`	`and its a lot harder to manage`
`09:06.44`	`h3x`	`try hunting 100 boxes for a open channel`
`09:06.54`	`h3x`	`it dosent make any sense`
`09:08.18`	`dudes`	`h3x - most I've used asterisk for is 28 T1's`
`09:08.29`	`dudes`	`pretty small I suppose`
`09:08.49`	`h3x`	`depends on what you are using it for`
`09:09.26`	`dudes`	`h3x - 220 jobs don't depend on it or anything`
`09:09.37`	`h3x`	`i dont mean that`
`09:09.46`	`h3x`	`it just is a shitty way to be a simple compression and gateway`
`09:10.19`	`dudes`	`SIP carrier to a big ass dialer`
`09:10.33`	`h3x`	`Ah so you arent using t1 cards eh`
`09:10.33`	`h3x`	`heh`
`09:10.35`	`dudes`	`it's telco grade (sarcaism)`
`09:11.06`	`dudes`	`as the client would say ... but they can't even get answering machine detection to work`
`09:11.09`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi: no, you can't plug that into your network and use SIP to talk to it`
`09:11.12`	`SarahEmm`	`it's not that kind of ethernet port.`
`09:11.20`	`SarahEmm`	`Zgarbi`
`09:11.23`	`SarahEmm`	`you want a channel bank`
`09:11.31`	`SarahEmm`	`with a T1/E1 port, and 24/30 FXS ports`
`09:11.51`	`*** join/#asterisk kFuQ (N=somedude@c-67-185-114-199.hsd1.wa.comcast.net)`
`09:11.52`	`h3x`	`well BackgroundDetect wasnt exactly meant to be used to do a real predictive dialer`
`09:12.24`	`dudes`	`h3x - the dialer is hooked up to the asterisk boxes via T1's`
`09:12.59`	`h3x`	`Oh ok`
`09:13.03`	`dudes`	`the dialer doesn't support sip so they plug in a 28 T1's from the dialer to the two asterisk machines and dial ... the asterisk calls a sip carrier`
`09:13.11`	`h3x`	`why didnt you just use a max tnt :P`
`09:13.17`	`h3x`	`two?`
`09:13.25`	`h3x`	`what are you doing g.711? heh`
`09:13.49`	`dudes`	`yea`
`09:13.55`	`dudes`	`slin to g711`
`09:13.59`	`h3x`	`why dont you just stay on tdm`
`09:14.07`	`Inv_arp`	`RoyK: man that is a nasty bug ya got... read the whole bug report`
`09:14.28`	`dudes`	`h3x - I don't make the plans ... I just do what I'm told to do.`
`09:14.35`	`dudes`	`I dont' care as long as I get paid`
`09:16.06`	`dudes`	`Plus who actually listens to a logical idea?`
`09:16.20`	`h3x`	`i donno people usually listen to my logical ideas`
`09:16.21`	`h3x`	`heh`
`09:16.32`	`dudes`	`I don't try with some ...`
`09:17.18`	`dudes`	`But on that same note ... A lot of people don't care much for me because I'm a asshole`
`09:17.56`	`h3x`	`haha`
`09:18.42`	`dudes`	`vice versa why I get ignored ... some are just too damn lazy to look shit up`
`09:19.01`	`h3x`	`i dont understand what would compell a call center to wanna do g.711 over tdm`
`09:19.04`	`dudes`	`asking questions is cool but don't expect people to do the work for you!`
`09:19.25`	`dudes`	`h3x - lack of English`
`09:19.26`	`dudes`	`?`
`09:19.34`	`h3x`	`?`
`09:20.30`	`dudes`	`They dont speak much english ... So it's rather difficult to convey a message. Moreoever, they set their minds to something and there is no changing it`
`09:20.39`	`h3x`	`oh`
`09:20.46`	`h3x`	`well`
`09:20.59`	`h3x`	`i am curious, what carrier did they use?`
`09:21.09`	`dudes`	`carrier?`
`09:21.13`	`h3x`	`for sip`
`09:21.16`	`dudes`	`ah`
`09:21.26`	`dudes`	`that's the funny thing ...`
`09:21.31`	`h3x`	`vonage? hahahaha`
`09:21.32`	`dudes`	`it changes all the time`
`09:21.40`	`h3x`	`ahha`
`09:21.45`	`dudes`	`one week it's one then it's another`
`09:21.50`	`h3x`	`so they got voip so they can switch and nto pay their phone bill`
`09:21.58`	`dudes`	`I think so`
`09:22.01`	`h3x`	`because you have to wait 30-45 to get new circuits`
`09:22.03`	`h3x`	`thats nice`
`09:22.16`	`dudes`	`It's a task to get paid sometimes`
`09:22.30`	`h3x`	`they actually run that over the internet?`
`09:22.46`	`h3x`	`that is crazy, so they have to pay for a loop and a ip port and minutes`
`09:23.07`	`h3x`	`not to mention you need like two ds3s to get bandwidth for 1s worth of tdm`
`09:23.28`	`h3x`	`or fastE or something`
`09:24.13`	`h3x`	`do you think they are switching constantly because the voice quality sucks maybe, trying to run that many calls over the public internet?`
`09:24.29`	`dudes`	`no ... the quality is awesome`
`09:24.50`	`h3x`	`i just dont know of that many carriers that will actually provision 672 channels of voip for anybody`
`09:25.02`	`h3x`	`i know maybe qwest and global crossing will do it`
`09:25.06`	`h3x`	`maybe mci advantage`
`09:25.16`	`dudes`	`sprint and xo`
`09:25.33`	`h3x`	`i didnt know xo had a retail voip product`
`09:25.46`	`dudes`	`they provide voip services`
`09:25.51`	`h3x`	`but that would explain.. they only do g.711 right now`
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`09:26.05`	`h3x`	`hence one of the carriers that dosent wanna buy dsp cards for their sonus gateways`
`09:26.11`	`dudes`	`hehe`
`09:26.20`	`dudes`	`xo has good quality though`
`09:26.22`	`h3x`	`im using their carrier long distance termination`
`09:26.24`	`dudes`	`and sprint too`
`09:26.34`	`h3x`	`i had no idea sprint deployed voip like that`
`09:26.44`	`h3x`	`but they are our ILEC so we all try to avoid sprint`
`09:26.53`	`dudes`	`qwest is good too`
`09:27.07`	`h3x`	`yeah i was the first guy to test qwest over the public internet`
`09:27.23`	`h3x`	`too bad they dont do toll free yet`
`09:27.37`	`dudes`	`I think qwest is better than xo (quality and stability)`
`09:27.55`	`h3x`	`of course it is`
`09:27.59`	`dudes`	`sprint was good though (never had any morning calls from their shit not working)`
`09:28.08`	`dudes`	`but xo and qwest I have`
`09:28.09`	`h3x`	`but they are using the exact same gateways`
`09:28.14`	`h3x`	`XOs ip network sucks ass`
`09:28.22`	`h3x`	`concentric`
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`09:28.33`	`h3x`	`at least qwest does g.729`
`09:28.35`	`dudes`	`we've had the trunk die a few times`
`09:28.45`	`h3x`	`but what bothers me about most of them is they dont know how to do password secrets on sip`
`09:28.49`	`h3x`	`its all authenticated by IP`
`09:29.03`	`dudes`	`what's that all about`
`09:29.08`	`dudes`	`I don't get that ...`
`09:29.08`	`h3x`	`you know you can get a dedicated loop into xo and qwest and not pay for internet access right`
`09:29.21`	`dudes`	`really?`
`09:29.33`	`h3x`	`I donno dude, i think the wild packets session border controller really dosent have password authentication`
`09:29.40`	`h3x`	`Yes, well Qwest charges $25 per meg`
`09:29.48`	`h3x`	`XO is just the loop cost`
`09:29.55`	`h3x`	`this is through wholesale channels though`
`09:30.20`	`dudes`	`I don't use too many lines personally`
`09:30.35`	`h3x`	`thats weird, coz i dont think XO has any retail marketing material for VoIP`
`09:30.45`	`h3x`	`i have access to their direct/agent side sales site and i dont see anything`
`09:31.10`	`h3x`	`your boys must be pedding minutes through carrier services`
`09:31.17`	`h3x`	`peddling`
`09:31.24`	`dudes`	`I'm not wondering`
`09:31.32`	`dudes`	`cause one week one is working then it's not`
`09:31.47`	`h3x`	`haha`
`09:32.04`	`dudes`	`This is my last job with them ... cause I'm getting too pissed at them for not paying on time`
`09:32.14`	`h3x`	`hahaha`
`09:33.12`	`dudes`	`Some people are like 2-3 days after the suggested payment time ... these fucking guys are 2-3-4-6-8 weeks late`
`09:33.28`	`h3x`	`sounds like a government job`
`09:33.41`	`dudes`	`never had one of those`
`09:34.48`	`dudes`	`But I'll keep that in mind (but I'd have to decline since I don't pay taxes)`
`09:34.51`	`dudes`	`and that was a joke`
`09:35.14`	`dudes`	`I pay about 37% of my income in taxes`
`09:35.22`	`dudes`	`gross that is`
`09:35.56`	`*** join/#asterisk frenzy (N=frenzy@193.220.82.108)`
`09:37.09`	`SarahEmm`	`that is gross.`
`09:37.11`	`SarahEmm`	`:P`
`09:37.22`	`h3x`	`shit`
`09:37.25`	`h3x`	`you need some write offs mang`
`09:37.29`	`RoyK`	`dudes: i pay more than that`
`09:37.31`	`h3x`	`or start a corporation`
`09:37.34`	`RoyK`	`dudes: where from?`
`09:37.34`	`h3x`	`15%`
`09:37.36`	`h3x`	`flat tax`
`09:37.40`	`RoyK`	`h3x: where?`
`09:37.52`	`h3x`	`well 15% federal in the US`
`09:37.55`	`h3x`	`nevada has no state tax`
`09:38.16`	`RoyK`	`so if you lose your job and get hit by a car, they dump you in the ditch?`
`09:38.18`	`RoyK`	`:)`
`09:38.30`	`h3x`	`what?!`
`09:38.31`	`dudes`	`What I need to do is get rich and buy my own country where cigarette nazi and liberal ass wads can't tax the shit out of me for working`
`09:38.34`	`RoyK`	`i mean, how can you run public hospitals and stuff without tax?`
`09:38.50`	`h3x`	`hospitals arent funded by the government here silly`
`09:39.04`	`RoyK`	`h3x: i know, so you'll need an insurence`
`09:39.09`	`RoyK`	`and to have that you need money`
`09:39.12`	`RoyK`	`or not?`
`09:39.18`	`h3x`	`Uhhh I think with the extra 18% of money you get`
`09:39.28`	`h3x`	`you can just buy your own insurance for $120 a month from blue cross blue shield`
`09:39.30`	`RoyK`	`so if you for some reason lose your job, and then your insurence....`
`09:39.42`	`dudes`	`h3x - that cheap?`
`09:39.43`	`h3x`	`and if you have a corporation you can insure yourself and its a 100% writeoff for the company`
`09:39.44`	`dudes`	`I wish`
`09:39.51`	`h3x`	`yeah if you arent like 50 years old`
`09:40.00`	`h3x`	`and have 10 kids`
`09:40.11`	`h3x`	`we have taxes here`
`09:40.15`	`h3x`	`but you just have to work the loopholes`
`09:40.17`	`h3x`	`taxes are for idiots`
`09:40.29`	`dudes`	`h3x - I have no kids and never get sick (expect for my twice a year appointments for my allergy shots 62.00 each shot)`
`09:40.35`	`h3x`	`theres so many dumb people that dont work the system that pay all the taxes`
`09:40.48`	`h3x`	`thats the whole idea of reaganomics when it boils down to it`
`09:41.18`	`dudes`	`h3x - I just hate that my hard earned cash is sent to jobless low life fuck offs`
`09:41.19`	`h3x`	`ah well it aint politics, if you wanna make more money just start a corp`
`09:41.19`	`h3x`	`heh`
`09:41.30`	`dudes`	`hehe`
`09:42.18`	`dudes`	`Get a job you bum bum bum bum ... Money don't grow on tree you bum bum bum`
`09:42.19`	`dudes`	`hehe`
`09:42.30`	`*** join/#asterisk SkramX (N=SkramY@cpe-70-112-81-84.austin.res.rr.com)`
`09:42.40`	`dudes`	`Larry The cable guy is the man`
`09:42.43`	`h3x`	`yeeah well theres some bums at the top of fortune 500`
`09:42.46`	`h3x`	`errr forbes 500`
`09:43.01`	`h3x`	`5 of the top 10 are aires to sam walton`
`09:43.07`	`h3x`	`and they dont do shit`
`09:43.15`	`dudes`	`At least someone did something`
`09:43.18`	`dudes`	`if not them`
`09:43.26`	`h3x`	`poor larry ellison got bumped down to #10.`
`09:43.35`	`dudes`	`oh`
`09:43.39`	`h3x`	`and he was actually a nerd once`
`09:43.43`	`dudes`	`what a crying shame`
`09:43.46`	`Inv_arp`	`h3x: have you been reading rich dad poor dad?`
`09:43.49`	`SarahEmm`	`Maxx4life: you around?`
`09:43.53`	`h3x`	`hah no`
`09:44.03`	`Inv_arp`	`you have all his techniques down`
`09:44.10`	`h3x`	`techniques?`
`09:44.11`	`dudes`	`Larry, Valby and Cash`
`09:44.17`	`dudes`	`All good`
`09:44.27`	`h3x`	`i dont need no stinking self help books`
`09:44.33`	`Inv_arp`	`h3x: start a corp.. use tax loopholes etc...`
`09:44.36`	`h3x`	`those are for people who wish tehy were in the top tax bracket`
`09:44.50`	`Inv_arp`	`like me :(`
`09:45.14`	`dudes`	`Inv_arp - why the fuck not ... the system cheats us otherwise`
`09:45.17`	`h3x`	`i made 180k last year just in commissions off peddling tdm long distance`
`09:45.34`	`dudes`	`h3x - I made 19,000`
`09:45.36`	`dudes`	`haha`
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`09:45.44`	`h3x`	`19k? what are you in india?`
`09:45.48`	`Inv_arp`	`lol`
`09:45.51`	`dudes`	`fuck you`
`09:46.08`	`h3x`	`dude that place you set up the ds3 of asterisk boxes for`
`09:46.14`	`h3x`	`if they paid their phone bill which im sure they dont`
`09:46.19`	`h3x`	`thats how much money they run up in one week`
`09:46.23`	`dudes`	`I'm doing good this year`
`09:46.23`	`h3x`	`in minutes if not more`
`09:47.00`	`Inv_arp`	`woah ds3 of * nice... how many lines is that`
`09:47.10`	`h3x`	`im just pissy waiting around for contracts to expire`
`09:47.24`	`h3x`	`if i made 180k that means i made some other assholes a couple million a year for the past 4-5 years`
`09:47.35`	`Inv_arp`	`h3x: definetly`
`09:47.42`	`h3x`	`move them all up to my network`
`09:47.42`	`h3x`	`heh`
`09:48.07`	`h3x`	`we arent talking about politics!@`
`09:48.14`	`dudes`	`h3x - I've had enough of these cheap fucks`
`09:48.41`	`h3x`	`dude: you know what i did when i was doing what you are doing`
`09:48.56`	`dudes`	`h3x - On another note, I'm a 20 year old from a small ass done in Minnesota where 20K a year is a log`
`09:49.01`	`h3x`	`as an "equipment vendor" i sold long distance to these telemarketing schmucks without them even realizing i was a sales ma`
`09:49.02`	`h3x`	`n`
`09:49.07`	`dudes`	`err town not done`
`09:49.20`	`dudes`	`and a lot not a log`
`09:49.27`	`h3x`	`id go in and be like "Ok so you paid for the equipment, did you order the t1s yet?"`
`09:49.27`	`dudes`	`fucking mcmasters whiskey`
`09:49.46`	`h3x`	`and 9 times out of 10 they are like uhhh doooohhh uhhh errr... no`
`09:49.52`	`Inv_arp`	`heh`
`09:50.12`	`h3x`	`and im like "Well you better hurry up it takes 30-45 days to get t..." "WHAT?!"`
`09:50.35`	`h3x`	`and so id pull a contract out of the briefcase and have them sign it`
`09:50.35`	`h3x`	`hahah`
`09:51.06`	`h3x`	`its so crazy dude, some places im still rolling 30% on`
`09:51.17`	`*** join/#asterisk jeffik (N=Jeff@toronto-HSE-ppp3985208.sympatico.ca)`
`09:51.54`	`h3x`	`id do some shit like give out free support as long as they have my t1s`
`09:52.04`	`*** join/#asterisk KeX_WorX (N=chris@83-65-129-46.paris-lodron.xdsl-line.inode.at)`
`09:52.07`	`KeX_WorX`	`hi`
`09:52.07`	`h3x`	`they thought thats a bargain but they didnt know i was making 3-5 grand a month off their ass`
`09:52.09`	`Inv_arp`	`might as well ask this while the experts are in... if a client needs 40 seats (mostly inbound) whats a good low cost solution for them`
`09:52.10`	`dudes`	`h3x - I might not know everything about this area (but between my friend and I) we know our shit`
`09:52.20`	`KeX_WorX`	`is it possible to add more agents to one queue ?`
`09:52.22`	`h3x`	`well thats what you should be doing!`
`09:52.34`	`h3x`	`and then this one time MCI had a crazy loophole coz they had just filed BK`
`09:53.05`	`h3x`	`and through the wholesale side, they didnt have an automated loop quote system. we were writing so many orders their manual ways couldnt keep up so they gave us a deal on $250 flat rate t1 voice loops`
`09:53.07`	`dudes`	`Inv_arp - a good inbound solution for a call center with 40 seats`
`09:53.17`	`h3x`	`I started flying all over the place and findign people in the mdidle of bumfuck nowhere to set up a call center`
`09:53.25`	`h3x`	`the local government would kick in 50% of the labor costs`
`09:53.32`	`h3x`	`because of the high unemployment rate`
`09:53.43`	`h3x`	`id sell a $80-150k dialer to them, and then of course $250 T1s`
`09:54.01`	`h3x`	`theres something you didnt read about in Lesko's book`
`09:54.04`	`dudes`	`that's freak'in insane for a dialer`
`09:54.10`	`dudes`	`but people pay it`
`09:54.11`	`h3x`	`shit thats cheap for a dialer`
`09:54.13`	`dudes`	`gotta love it`
`09:54.17`	`h3x`	`thats used equipment`
`09:54.26`	`h3x`	`new dialers sell for $6000+ per seat`
`09:54.39`	`dudes`	`h3x - one of the local call center here pays 200K+ a year`
`09:54.42`	`KeX_WorX`	`or is it possible to do skill based routing ?`
`09:54.51`	`h3x`	`we'd find some old shit in peoples garages and buy it for $10k and sell that 240 seat dialer for $250k`
`09:55.04`	`dudes`	`h3x - SER ?`
`09:55.06`	`h3x`	`dudes: what for the support?`
`09:55.09`	`h3x`	`dudes, How did you know? :)`
`09:55.28`	`h3x`	`i know that eis shit forwards backwards sideways and upside down`
`09:56.02`	`dudes`	`dialer ... it's a telemarketing dialer`
`09:56.10`	`dudes`	`haha`
`09:56.13`	`h3x`	`whats really funny though is our biggest source for EIS/SER dialers was Noble Systems for a little while`
`09:56.16`	`h3x`	`they were taking tradeins`
`09:56.19`	`h3x`	`we'd buy them for peanuts`
`09:56.25`	`h3x`	`well then noble got sued by eis`
`09:56.27`	`h3x`	`and that was the end of that`
`09:56.58`	`dudes`	`I think it's about time for a decent open source dialer`
`09:57.11`	`h3x`	`there are a couple of them but they suck`
`09:57.25`	`h3x`	`dudes, the way i got started in this business is i wrote a dialer from scratch using aculab cards`
`09:57.31`	`h3x`	`and this was 98-2001`
`09:57.51`	`h3x`	`but the market changed a bit and i hooked up with these guys and i realized i couldnt buy the raw materials for less than it was to peddle used equipment`
`09:57.58`	`*** join/#asterisk nesys (N=nesys@81-174-12-111.f5.ngi.it)`
`09:58.12`	`h3x`	`its hard to make money when you have to pay $13k for a 4 t1 aculab board`
`09:58.14`	`dudes`	`my friend and I are writing an open source dialer .... granted it probally sucks ... but it's getting there`
`09:58.32`	`h3x`	`vici dial? hehehe`
`09:58.35`	`dudes`	`no`
`09:58.45`	`dudes`	`but Matt F is a cool guy`
`09:58.52`	`h3x`	`you know, diax phone FINALLY supports SendURL`
`09:59.06`	`dudes`	`never used diax phone`
`09:59.07`	`h3x`	`i bitched at dante like for a couple months and he finally fixed that shit`
`09:59.18`	`h3x`	`well its like nearly impossible to do screen pops without something like that`
`09:59.25`	`h3x`	`unles syou are going to roll your own with manager`
`09:59.38`	`dudes`	`the manager =)`
`09:59.44`	`h3x`	`dudes, dont tell me you are using /var/spool/asterisk/outgoing or im gonna beat you with a bat`
`09:59.50`	`dudes`	`no`
`09:59.57`	`dudes`	`that was the early drafts`
`09:59.59`	`dudes`	`haha`
`10:00.05`	`h3x`	`i tasked two groups of people to do an auto dialer with asterisk`
`10:00.16`	`h3x`	`and i said " dont use var spool asterisk outgoing or im gonna kick your ass"`
`10:00.18`	`h3x`	`and what did they do?`
`10:00.24`	`dudes`	`use it`
`10:00.26`	`h3x`	`They fucking did it`
`10:00.28`	`dudes`	`haha`
`10:00.33`	`h3x`	`and then i tell them about manager and they are like "whats that?"`
`10:00.44`	`h3x`	`im like "I fucking told you about manager when i first told you to dot his for me"`
`10:01.18`	`h3x`	`anyway, i came up with the whole idea of hosted dialer back before it was cool`
`10:01.36`	`h3x`	`and then like a dumb shit i told the guy John at Five9 about it`
`10:01.41`	`dudes`	`back before everyone was doing it`
`10:01.41`	`h3x`	`and thats what he did except his sucks ass`
`10:01.58`	`h3x`	`and then everybody else started doing it`
`10:02.24`	`h3x`	`I was actually doing mine with ADSI phones but it was really challenging coz all i had to do it with on aculab cards was a v.29 FSK modem and tone generator/detectors`
`10:02.31`	`h3x`	`and a pile of expensive bellcore docs`
`10:02.35`	`dudes`	`did you know ... no telco grade solution has firewall issue ???`
`10:02.47`	`h3x`	`?`
`10:02.55`	`h3x`	`hah`
`10:03.00`	`dudes`	`I've heard that line of horse shit`
`10:03.02`	`dudes`	`and it's a joke`
`10:03.06`	`dudes`	`it's a lie`
`10:03.13`	`h3x`	`yeah people still dont get what voip is good for`
`10:03.33`	`dudes`	`harassing people on thier telephone over the internet?`
`10:03.35`	`dudes`	`haha`
`10:03.55`	`h3x`	`i started building my data center two years ago thinking i was gonna give away asterisk boxes as t1 gateways to legacy equipment (like, EIS dialers :P )`
`10:04.11`	`h3x`	`to get their traffic compressed, hauled here, and then id LCR it out to carriers`
`10:04.30`	`h3x`	`my main sales thing had to do with telemarketing rule compliance that iw as going to host on my end`
`10:04.52`	`h3x`	`but like veerything else the FCC Does, everybody ignored that crap and complied with the do not call rule by scrubbing leads and all was happy`
`10:05.11`	`dudes`	`that's kind of funny actually`
`10:05.18`	`dudes`	`no one give a fuck`
`10:05.27`	`h3x`	`anyway, i build this place coz i thought i was gonna need like 100 MAX TNTs`
`10:05.37`	`h3x`	`coz i didnt know the carriers were gonna start selling wholesale voip`
`10:05.52`	`h3x`	`now i got this bigass place and a few asterisk boxes and OpenSER SBCs`
`10:06.07`	`h3x`	`heh. oh well`
`10:06.57`	`h3x`	`it accomplishes the same thing, dragging voip over private line here, least cost routing it and putting in some value adds`
`10:07.02`	`dudes`	`I don't got a big place here ... but I run several test servers and boy does my power get up there`
`10:07.27`	`*** part/#asterisk nesys (N=nesys@81-174-12-111.f5.ngi.it)`
`10:07.38`	`h3x`	`heh`
`10:07.45`	`dudes`	`But my house is always cool and my power is alway on ...`
`10:07.56`	`h3x`	`well im glad i dont need a bunch of max tnts or id make nevada power more rich`
`10:08.35`	`dudes`	`I tell folk around here how much my power is and they give me a dumb founded look`
`10:08.41`	`h3x`	`hehe`
`10:08.59`	`h3x`	`i have one power trick, i use evaporative cooling when the conditions are right`
`10:09.12`	`h3x`	`which is like all the time but july and august`
`10:09.22`	`h3x`	`its nice to be in the desert`
`10:09.29`	`dudes`	`my power is less in the winter`
`10:09.33`	`dudes`	`cause I hate heat ...`
`10:09.42`	`dudes`	`I've rather be cold than hot`
`10:09.52`	`h3x`	`bah`
`10:09.56`	`dudes`	`I think my comptuers would agree too`
`10:09.58`	`h3x`	`i grew up in nebraska it was no fun`
`10:10.05`	`dudes`	`I love winter`
`10:10.17`	`dudes`	`I bust out my intrepid in the winter ... So much fun`
`10:10.22`	`h3x`	`haha`
`10:10.28`	`dudes`	`I rip it up`
`10:10.31`	`h3x`	`i had a friend with a bmw z3`
`10:10.35`	`h3x`	`and he could never drive it`
`10:10.43`	`h3x`	`coz the weather sucked`
`10:10.58`	`dudes`	`You can drive a intrepid in the winter .... and it's so much fun`
`10:11.09`	`dudes`	`But I've almost killed myself a few times with that car`
`10:11.17`	`dudes`	`several times for that matter`
`10:12.50`	`dudes`	`Not driving too insane for that matter ... but just being stupid`
`10:13.10`	`dudes`	`taking corners and 100+ speeds`
`10:13.23`	`h3x`	`heh`
`10:13.42`	`dudes`	`next thing you know you're spinning ...`
`10:14.02`	`h3x`	`when i was in high school`
`10:14.12`	`h3x`	`0i thought i was gonna die everyt ime my friend dropped me off at home`
`10:14.23`	`h3x`	`coz hed go like 70 around my corner when it was iced over`
`10:14.42`	`dudes`	`I don't drive insane with people in my car`
`10:14.55`	`h3x`	`im sure he drove nromally without people in his car`
`10:14.59`	`dudes`	`But I've had a few friends like that ... fuck this shit I'm walkign`
`10:15.05`	`h3x`	`haha`
`10:15.30`	`dudes`	`I drive way more aggresivly alone`
`10:16.04`	`dudes`	`a 15MPH corner ... I wonder if 70 would be too fast`
`10:16.06`	`dudes`	`hehe`
`10:16.20`	`h3x`	`im suprised you still have tired`
`10:16.21`	`h3x`	`tire`
`10:16.21`	`h3x`	`s`
`10:16.24`	`h3x`	`lkhgljkgjkgkgjkggkjggkj`
`10:16.42`	`dudes`	`my tranny didn't hold up`
`10:16.52`	`h3x`	`haha`
`10:16.57`	`dudes`	`I got 30,000 out of it before it blew out`
`10:17.01`	`h3x`	`tranny means something different here`
`10:17.16`	`dudes`	`it had 43,000 on it`
`10:17.25`	`dudes`	`?`
`10:17.27`	`dudes`	`what's tranny mean?>`
`10:17.29`	`h3x`	`transvestite`
`10:17.29`	`h3x`	`haha`
`10:17.42`	`dudes`	`ok`
`10:17.52`	`h3x`	`nah we dont have that many of them here`
`10:17.55`	`h3x`	`but i bet you dont have any there`
`10:17.59`	`dudes`	`no`
`10:18.05`	`dudes`	`I have a lesbian friend`
`10:18.13`	`dudes`	`probally the coolest person I know`
`10:18.19`	`dudes`	`It's fun having bitch talk with her`
`10:18.27`	`sskyles`	`What the hell you talking about?? Half the people here are gay and half of them are trannys.`
`10:18.42`	`h3x`	`ssky: are they the same half`
`10:19.04`	`dudes`	`I had bitch talk with her tonight ... still feeling the whiskey`
`10:19.19`	`dudes`	`or man talk as some might put it`
`10:19.29`	`sskyles`	`I have no idea but I think SarahEmm is wierdo.`
`10:20.02`	`dudes`	`we're all weirdo's`
`10:20.10`	`sskyles`	`Yes, that's right.`
`10:20.31`	`h3x`	`<PROTECTED>`
`10:20.33`	`h3x`	`and type instead`
`10:20.36`	`dudes`	`in this town whenever someone get's smart ... I just tell them, "So how do you find the uptime on a Unix Box?"`
`10:20.45`	`dudes`	`they don't even know what to say`
`10:20.52`	`sskyles`	`I was just thinking about that today... What a strange group of people we are.`
`10:21.20`	`dudes`	`In this town people talk about writing an article about my friend and me`
`10:21.21`	`SarahEmm`	`lol`
`10:21.23`	`h3x`	`i remember when freenode was openprojects and before that linpeople`
`10:21.24`	`SarahEmm`	`yes, i am a weirdo`
`10:21.25`	`dudes`	`because of the business we are in`
`10:21.31`	`SarahEmm`	`being trans is mostly unrelated to that tho :)`
`10:21.31`	`dudes`	`WTF is that`
`10:21.46`	`h3x`	`and lilo in ... her (as we called him) infinate wisdom`
`10:22.02`	`h3x`	`thought there was too much noise on #linpeople and forced everybody to #natter for like a year as punishment.`
`10:22.08`	`sskyles`	`But it adds to the strangeness. Which is not necessarily a bad thing.`
`10:23.16`	`h3x`	`now this is just another efnet`
`10:23.35`	`sskyles`	`Ohh, I wouldn't go that far.`
`10:23.41`	`dudes`	`h3x - I found the folk on efnet too be very anti-american`
`10:23.42`	`SarahEmm`	`#natter? #labyrinth`
`10:23.50`	`h3x`	`hahahah`
`10:23.52`	`SarahEmm`	`or was this before?`
`10:23.56`	`h3x`	`try doing a /join #sex`
`10:23.57`	`dudes`	`So I didn't much care for them`
`10:24.12`	`h3x`	`hjahaha`
`10:24.13`	`sskyles`	`Is it really there???!?!?`
`10:24.21`	`dudes`	`At least here god damnit I can be American ... fuck`
`10:24.22`	`h3x`	`its got a punt on it`
`10:24.34`	`dudes`	`and not be hated`
`10:24.44`	`sskyles`	`Getting a channel list.`
`10:24.46`	`h3x`	`labyrinth?`
`10:24.52`	`Praktikant01`
`10:25.05`	`*** join/#asterisk Shoragan (N=shoragan@d072.apm.etc.tu-bs.de)`
`10:25.06`	`h3x`	`i went away from linpeople for a long time maybe it was after`
`10:25.41`	`dudes`	`it's getting light out`
`10:25.43`	`dudes`	`gay`
`10:25.47`	`*** join/#asterisk djin_ib (N=djin_ib@office.cambrium.nl)`
`10:27.58`	`sskyles`	`Don't see any #sex channel here.`
`10:28.37`	`darkskiez`	`you have got to be kidding`
`10:28.48`	`h3x`	`its a channel forward.`
`10:28.49`	`dudes`	`I don't even know if they have any of those warez site ... let alone sexual channels`
`10:28.59`	`dudes`	`channels rather than sites`
`10:29.06`	`darkskiez`	`yeh, geeks dont have sex.`
`10:29.09`	`sskyles`	`It's shouldn't be on freenode anyway.`
`10:29.12`	`dudes`	`no shit`
`10:29.16`	`h3x`	`we want open source sex!`
`10:29.19`	`h3x`	`GPLed and stuff!`
`10:29.29`	`sskyles`	`haha`
`10:29.33`	`darkskiez`	`"pretty much"`
`10:29.34`	`dudes`	`where's my nerdy slut been hiding all my life`
`10:29.37`	`darkskiez`	`is virgin not binary?`
`10:29.46`	`dudes`	`000100111110110101`
`10:29.46`	`darkskiez`	`bool virgin;`
`10:29.49`	`dudes`	`hehe`
`10:30.27`	`sskyles`	`There's a #hell. Don't know what that's about.`
`10:30.32`	`RoyK`	`next while (virgin);`
`10:30.48`	`darkskiez`	`its boring`
`10:32.18`	`sskyles`	`#jesus... haha`
`10:32.42`	`dudes`	`bool virgin = true; if(virgin=true) std;;cout << "Loser!" << std;;endl;`
`10:33.22`	`dudes`	`that's totally wrong ...`
`10:33.24`	`dudes`	`haha`
`10:34.00`	`sskyles`	`I was chatting with a friend like that one day when he didn't want his wife to understand what we were talking about.`
`10:34.36`	`dudes`	`bool wife = true if(true) live sucks`
`10:34.44`	`dudes`	`life*`
`10:34.52`	`h3x`	`sskyles why were you talking to your married friend like that, about virginity :)`
`10:34.54`	`darkskiez`	`for a start, you dont compare with a single =, that'll set it to true, and you just use if(virgin) anyway`
`10:35.06`	`sskyles`	`I'm married.`
`10:35.06`	`dudes`	`h3x - haha`
`10:35.10`	`dudes`	`I'm not`
`10:35.13`	`dudes`	`and glad`
`10:35.22`	`sskyles`	`with children even...`
`10:35.45`	`sskyles`	`Yeah, I'm one of them breeders....`
`10:35.46`	`dudes`	`I want to have kids ... the marriage part ... I don't know`
`10:35.55`	`h3x`	`man`
`10:36.02`	`h3x`	`they are the same thing`
`10:36.04`	`dudes`	`Maybe if I found a good women ... but does that ever happen`
`10:36.09`	`h3x`	`raising a young person into a grownup`
`10:36.18`	`h3x`	`or raising a spoiled little bitch and trying to make her a grown up`
`10:36.36`	`sskyles`	`I found my wife in Novosibirsk.`
`10:36.36`	`dudes`	`I think slutism starts at 14 with these fucking kids these days`
`10:36.47`	`sskyles`	`Yeah, 14.`
`10:36.52`	`dudes`	`it's sad`
`10:36.58`	`dudes`	`seriously makes me sad`
`10:37.12`	`h3x`	`my gf was wearing a "I fucked your husband" T-shirt today coz i was wearing my "My girlfriend is out of town" t-shirt yesterday`
`10:37.18`	`sskyles`	`...and there's not a whole lot we can do about it.`
`10:37.21`	`kajtzu`	`interesting discussio`
`10:37.22`	`kajtzu`	`n`
`10:37.23`	`kajtzu`	`:)`
`10:37.25`	`h3x`	`so i told her i am gonna get a "I fucked your mom" T-shirt made for when she goes to visit her kids`
`10:37.38`	`dudes`	`h3x - the best is the bullride`
`10:37.57`	`dudes`	`do it doggy and grab their tits ... your sisters are better`
`10:38.04`	`h3x`	`haha`
`10:38.08`	`dudes`	`see how long you can hold on`
`10:38.31`	`*** join/#asterisk gambolputty (N=gambolpu@cblmdm72-240-241-108.buckeyecom.net)`
`10:38.39`	`h3x`	`she dont want me to meet her stuck up snobby and fugly midwestern sister coz she thinks id like her`
`10:38.43`	`h3x`	`but that bitch is fucking ugle`
`10:38.45`	`h3x`	`ugly`
`10:38.47`	`RoyK`	`~dibbler?`
`10:38.49`	`dudes`	`never tried it personally but I don't have sex cause ... well I don't want to catch something. I can wait until I meet a good women,`
`10:39.01`	`h3x`	`i dont care if she has red hair`
`10:39.14`	`h3x`	`shes like a peggy bundy`
`10:39.24`	`dudes`	`h3x - ecks`
`10:39.30`	`dudes`	`RoyK - I just drink too much`
`10:39.35`	`h3x`	`dude the hotter and older the bitch is the more shes got`
`10:39.42`	`RoyK`	`jbot: ping`
`10:39.42`	`jbot`	`pong`
`10:39.47`	`h3x`	`and youll get it too eventually so you may as well start now`
`10:39.51`	`sskyles`	`Oh al!`
`10:39.54`	`RoyK`	`jbot: dibbler is http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/terrypratchett/Char_CMOTDibbler.htm`
`10:39.54`	`jbot`	`okay, RoyK`
`10:39.57`	`RoyK`	`~dibbler?`
`10:39.57`	`jbot`	`extra, extra, read all about it, dibbler is http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/terrypratchett/Char_CMOTDibbler.htm`
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`10:40.05`	`dudes`	`h3x - I like to think positive.`
`10:40.23`	`dudes`	`I'd like to think there is at least one women in this world that is clean and faithful`
`10:40.23`	`h3x`	`our educational system has scared you away from sex`
`10:40.47`	`dudes`	`h3x - I still have sex. Just not too often`
`10:40.58`	`kajtzu`	`dont go blind`
`10:41.03`	`h3x`	`haha`
`10:41.05`	`kajtzu`	`;)`
`10:42.12`	`dudes`	`I know what you are saying ... but if I caught something I couldn't in good anything aid in the spread of that shit.`
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`10:42.36`	`dudes`	`I'd rather just be careful and hope for the best`
`10:42.39`	`h3x`	`then youll just be a player for life`
`10:42.43`	`h3x`	`haha`
`10:43.00`	`dudes`	`that'd imply I get laid`
`10:43.01`	`sskyles`	`As most are.`
`10:43.12`	`h3x`	`yeah then you have perfectly good dumping lines`
`10:43.27`	`h3x`	`"Well sorry honey im not really into the whole committment thing. Hey have you seen my valtrex anywhere?"....`
`10:43.36`	`dudes`	`that's mean`
`10:43.42`	`dudes`	`I'm going to try that sometime`
`10:44.00`	`h3x`	`my friends and i were having a competition of who could make strippers go away the quickest`
`10:44.03`	`dudes`	`I always wanted to bag it and saran wrap my balls ... then tell them it's for my protection`
`10:44.05`	`h3x`	`like different lines that would scare them away`
`10:44.16`	`h3x`	`one of my buddies won with his first line`
`10:44.22`	`h3x`	`"Hey, can you get herpes through denim?"`
`10:44.26`	`dudes`	`haa`
`10:44.28`	`dudes`	`haha`
`10:44.36`	`h3x`	`that bitch ran out the back door`
`10:44.38`	`h3x`	`she never came back`
`10:44.47`	`h3x`	`she leaped for the dressing room to vomit or somethign and left`
`10:44.50`	`h3x`	`it was great`
`10:45.12`	`dudes`	`never been to a titty bar`
`10:45.29`	`kajtzu`	`nothing special`
`10:45.30`	`h3x`	`then this other stupid bitch came by and saw we were having too much fun and she goes .. "I've spent more on tampons this whole night than you have in this club" and im like WTF No way`
`10:45.43`	`h3x`	`god damn that was a terrible titty bar night`
`10:45.44`	`dudes`	`No I can't imagine watching women get drolled on would be assuming`
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`10:46.19`	`dudes`	`Moreover, I'm not throwing them a buck just to shack their ass or whatever they do`
`10:46.24`	`h3x`	`when i was rolling commissions and doing nothing else i spent like a whole year going to titty bars`
`10:46.34`	`h3x`	`i seriously would go for lunch`
`10:46.41`	`h3x`	`some of them have buffets and shit here in vegas`
`10:46.53`	`dudes`	`the bunny ranch`
`10:46.56`	`dudes`	`haha`
`10:47.05`	`h3x`	`even just this hole in the wall piece of shit place i added up $28,000 in ATM withdrawls`
`10:47.07`	`h3x`	`one fucking ATM`
`10:47.16`	`h3x`	`from like 10 months of activity`
`10:47.25`	`h3x`	`i fucking paid for that machine with its $5 transaction fees`
`10:47.37`	`dudes`	`I'd just offer some ditzy slut the money and get laid everyday`
`10:47.47`	`h3x`	`yeah i should have but i was like 22 or something and stupid`
`10:47.54`	`h3x`	`had nothing better to do`
`10:48.09`	`dudes`	`I'd probally do shit like that if I had the money`
`10:48.11`	`h3x`	`when you are a strip club regular, well things are a little different`
`10:48.17`	`h3x`	`the girls ask you over to your place or take you home or whatever`
`10:48.36`	`sskyles`	`What would you do if you had a million dollars?`
`10:48.40`	`dudes`	`want make some extra cash ...`
`10:48.43`	`h3x`	`or you get to volunteer to do all sorts of weird shit like i assembled a dressing room cabinet in the dressing room`
`10:48.58`	`sskyles`	`Me? Well that's easy man... I'd fuck two chicks at the same time man!`
`10:48.59`	`h3x`	`let me tell you though you do NOT want to see these girls in the flourescent lights or daylight`
`10:49.11`	`dudes`	`if I had a million bucks ... I'd put 100,000 in 10 banks and spend as little as possible.`
`10:49.17`	`h3x`	`haha`
`10:49.21`	`sskyles`	`Office Space...`
`10:49.22`	`h3x`	`if i had a million`
`10:49.35`	`dudes`	`If I were a starship captian ...`
`10:49.45`	`h3x`	`id buy a shitload of TI development stuff, put some programmers on payroll and make some voip crap`
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`10:50.08`	`dudes`	`I'd be a hermit`
`10:50.13`	`dudes`	`a bigger hermit rather`
`10:50.26`	`h3x`	`or`
`10:50.26`	`dudes`	`and chat on IRC all day ... and drink beer`
`10:50.43`	`cjk`	`hello, is there the definition to "withheld" a number in sip`
`10:50.50`	`dudes`	`and whiskey and smoke 5 packs of cigarettes a day and drink lots of coffe`
`10:50.53`	`h3x`	`dudes, are you like 18 or osmething? :)`
`10:50.55`	`dudes`	`coffee`
`10:51.04`	`dudes`	`20 ... and I was only joking`
`10:51.07`	`sskyles`	`That's it... I'm off to bed.`
`10:51.16`	`oob`	`dudes is a little older.. http://oob.freeshell.org/images/asl.jpg`
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`10:51.36`	`dudes`	`that's sick`
`10:51.40`	`h3x`	`hehe`
`10:51.44`	`sskyles`	`LOL, that's exactly the image I had in my head of drinking beer all day and chatting on IRC!!!`
`10:51.46`	`h3x`	`man`
`10:51.54`	`oob`	`that's you without the beer, whiskey, cigarettes and coffee`
`10:51.55`	`h3x`	`when i turned 18 i lived in nebraska`
`10:51.55`	`sskyles`	`Just couldn't find the URL fast enough.`
`10:51.59`	`dudes`	`http://developers.gnudialer.org/18.jpg`
`10:52.04`	`h3x`	`and this blast from the past employer i used to work for calls me from vegas`
`10:52.12`	`h3x`	`"Hey Justin do you want to move to Las Vegas and work on Porn web sites?"`
`10:52.21`	`h3x`	`and im like "Send me the plane tickets" with no hesitation`
`10:52.39`	`h3x`	`and that was that`
`10:53.12`	`dudes`	`I'm not fat`
`10:53.25`	`oob`	`you work on porn web sites and spend you spare time in topless bars?`
`10:53.37`	`h3x`	`do you need any help with gnudialer`
`10:53.37`	`h3x`	`heh`
`10:53.38`	`dudes`	`that'd be alright`
`10:53.50`	`oob`	`dudes, that doesn't sound altogether healthy`
`10:53.51`	`dudes`	`h3x - do we need any help?`
`10:54.00`	`h3x`	`dont tell me you ahvent started yuet`
`10:54.17`	`h3x`	`ive got like 6 guys that could help`
`10:54.17`	`h3x`	`heh`
`10:55.01`	`dudes`	`gnudialer is coming along`
`10:55.12`	`dudes`	`it's not perfect but we're only two guys`
`10:55.23`	`h3x`	`did you copy SER screens`
`10:55.23`	`h3x`	`hahahaha`
`10:55.42`	`dudes`	`no`
`10:55.46`	`h3x`	`how far did you get`
`10:55.56`	`dudes`	`how far did we get?`
`10:57.07`	`TyreseJones`	`Can anyone recommend a website, or even a company in the UK, that i can buy some telephony hardware from?`
`10:57.49`	`h3x`	`digium.com has a list of distributors on their site for each country`
`10:58.56`	`_fenlander`	`TyreseJones: what are you looking for?`
`10:59.50`	`TyreseJones`	`_fenlander, I need a PCI card, that can take 4 telephone lines coming into it - and that's it!`
`11:00.10`	`TyreseJones`	`Or maybe 4 cards, that take one each, or 2 cards, that take two each, u get the picture`
`11:01.05`	`_fenlander`	`Telappliant (www.voiptalk.co.uk) are the UK distributor for Digium products - sounds like you want a TDM400p with 4 FXO cards`
`11:03.07`	`TyreseJones`	`thanks`
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`12:11.09`	`Sadaat`	`hi`
`12:12.39`	`Sadaat`	`how to prevent connection to my asterisk without Authentication?? currently anyone can connect to my asterisk by using any Username and password and the IP Address of my ASterisk.....how to stop it?`
`12:12.58`	`JunK-Y`	`here's the my best pics of cluecon (and trip in chicago) http://www.midsouthmarketplace.com/~krice/gallery/albums.php , a great thanks to ken for hosting.`
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`12:22.06`	`RoyK`	`~Dibbler`
`12:22.06`	`jbot`	`well, dibbler is http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/terrypratchett/Char_CMOTDibbler.htm`
`12:22.27`	`tzanger`	`whoohoo shuttle's down`
`12:22.51`	`Dibbler`	`lol`
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`12:23.22`	`shadeboboo`	`hi`
`12:27.06`	`schlitzer_ed`	`how long will it take that asterisk notice a user is not reachable on a spezified server?(for example server a tries to forward a call to a user, first via server b then via server c, but the user is not connected at server b, so server a tries next to forward to server c, where the user is connected to)`
`12:28.23`	`schlitzer_ed`	`so how long whill it take that server b tells server a "boy i?m not resonsible for this user"`
`12:28.27`	`schlitzer_ed`	`-h`
`12:28.37`	`schlitzer_ed`	`(sorry for my bad english)`
`12:30.55`	`The_Ball`	`tzanger, prolly last flight though?`
`12:31.56`	`RoyK`	`hmm`
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`12:33.23`	`coconut`	`hi exist a asterisk doc in spanish?`
`12:33.36`	`Praktikant01`	`anyone knows how to enable clip in asterisk for an hfc-s-card usinf the zaptel-drivers ??`
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`12:36.48`	`RoyK`	`clip?`
`12:37.07`	`Praktikant01`	`calling line identification restriction`
`12:37.15`	`Sadaat`	`how to prevent connection to my asterisk without Authentication?? currently anyone can connect to my asterisk by using any Username and password and the IP Address of my ASterisk.....how to stop it?`
`12:37.25`	`Sadaat`	`anyhelp pleasE?`
`12:37.29`	`Praktikant01`	`RoyK: it was clir ...,sry`
`12:37.46`	`RoyK`	`Praktikant01: show application SetCallerPres`
`12:38.02`	`RoyK`	`Sadaat: sip?`
`12:38.22`	`RoyK`	`Sadaat: connect using what?`
`12:39.20`	`Praktikant01`	`RoyK: how can i use this with th extensions.conf ??`
`12:40.20`	`RoyK`	`hæ?`
`12:40.54`	`Sadaat`	`RoyK: Yes...sip`
`12:42.05`	`RoyK`	`Praktikant01: yes`
`12:42.21`	`RoyK`	`Sadaat: chan_sip supports authentication`
`12:42.23`	`schlitzer_ed`	`from an example from voip-info.org what doas the "${EXTEN:1}" in "exten => _7XXX,1,Dial(IAX2/myserver:passwordA@IAXserverA/${EXTEN:1},30,r)" mean?`
`12:43.00`	`RoyK`	`Sadaat: so unless you set 'host=dynamic' _and_ 'insecure=very', people will need to authenticate`
`12:43.06`	`schlitzer_ed`	`doas it stand for the dialed extension asterisk tries to forward to the server?`
`12:44.28`	`schlitzer_ed`	`ohh sorry, i now faound it in the manual :)`
`12:44.33`	`schlitzer_ed`	`-a`
`12:44.48`	`Sadaat`	`RoyK: in [general] or under peers?`
`12:45.06`	`RoyK`	`per peer`
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`12:45.14`	`Sadaat`	`RoyK: alright....thanks`
`12:45.27`	`RoyK`	`~rtfm`
`12:45.28`	`jbot`	`well, rtfm is Read The F*cking Manual (TM)`
`12:45.29`	`tzanger`	`morning RoyK`
`12:45.35`	`tzanger`	`~acd`
`12:45.36`	`jbot`	`it has been said that acd is All Cats Down, a Jazz term used when the musicians are passed out drunk (props to ManxPower)`
`12:45.36`	`RoyK`	`afternoon, tzafrir_laptop`
`12:45.39`	`RoyK`	`afternoon, tzanger`
`12:47.09`	`RoyK`	`:)`
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`12:52.18`	`astoria`	`GOod Morning Sports fans.`
`12:54.49`	`Sadaat`	`exit`
`12:54.53`	`Sadaat`	`bye`
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`13:00.54`	`schlitzer_ed`	`can i connect whit more then one client to one sip account at the same time??`
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`13:07.49`	`Hmmhesays`	`~seen JunK-Y`
`13:07.49`	`jbot`	`junk-y is currently on #asterisk (12h 44m 37s). Has said a total of 3 messages. Is idling for 54m 51s`
`13:08.28`	`ataraxis`	`hi, i need some advice on how to do the wires between 2 phones and a hfc card in nt mode: http://kleinundgemein.de/~ataraxis/hfc/hfc.pdf`
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`13:08.42`	`coconut`	`~seen coconut`
`13:08.42`	`jbot`	`coconut is currently on #asterisk (4m 44s). Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 0s`
`13:10.00`	`Meaty`	`~seen me`
`13:10.00`	`jbot`	`me <~me@81.214.84.138> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 72d 1h 35m 26s ago, saying: 'hi'.`
`13:10.25`	`Meaty`	`~seen Meaty`
`13:10.26`	`jbot`	`meaty <N=cp_simbu@office.abi.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 1s ago, saying: '~seen Meaty'.`
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`13:12.16`	`RoyK`	`~lart Meaty`
`13:12.52`	`crash3m`	`~lart jbot`
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`13:13.17`	`Meaty`	`:/`
`13:13.26`	`Meaty`	`RTM ?`
`13:13.30`	`Meaty`	`Dont know`
`13:14.04`	`Meaty`	`~lart royk`
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`13:16.10`	`Meaty`	`~help`
`13:18.11`	`Meaty`	`~lobotomy royk`
`13:18.11`	`jbot`	`ACTION pulls out a rusty saw to perform a lobotomy on royk`
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`13:34.23`	`Meaty`	`~wtf`
`13:34.42`	`Meaty`	`~wtf wtf`
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`13:35.11`	`Meaty`	`~wtf BSD`
`13:35.24`	`funxion`	`lol`
`13:35.48`	`Meaty`	`:o`
`13:35.52`	`Meaty`	`Its not funny`
`13:35.58`	`Meaty`	`;)`
`13:36.07`	`Meaty`	`~wtf RTM`
`13:36.11`	`Meaty`	`..`
`13:36.50`	`Meaty`	`where i can find love`
`13:36.57`	`Meaty`	`where can i find love`
`13:37.31`	`coppice`	`on a tennis scoreboard?`
`13:37.32`	`Hmmhesays`	`heh`
`13:37.46`	`Hmmhesays`	`on the wall of a pay by the hour motel?`
`13:38.03`	`Meaty`	`where i can find love`
`13:38.19`	`Hmmhesays`	`on the tv set`
`13:38.27`	`Meaty`	`:P`
`13:38.38`	`Meaty`	`[09:16] <jbot> I learn mainly by observing declarative statements such as "x is at http://www.xxx.com", and then reply when people ask things like "where can i find x?"`
`13:38.44`	`Meaty`	`love is at http://www.lavalife.com/`
`13:38.48`	`Meaty`	`where i can find love`
`13:38.50`	`Meaty`	`:S`
`13:38.56`	`Hmmhesays`	`~love`
`13:38.56`	`jbot`	`If you love <insert item> so much, why don't you marry it`
`13:39.13`	`Meaty`	`where can i find love`
`13:39.16`	`Meaty`	`:S`
`13:39.22`	`Meaty`	`Hge`
`13:39.25`	`coppice`	`oh, I do love inserting my item`
`13:39.40`	`Hmmhesays`	`we know.`
`13:39.42`	`mishehu`	`not in public`
`13:39.47`	`Meaty`	`~love mishehu`
`13:39.47`	`jbot`	`If you love mishehu so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)`
`13:40.12`	`coppice`	`~love wifey`
`13:40.12`	`jbot`	`If you love wifey so much, why don't you marry it? (oooooh)`
`13:40.45`	`RoyK`	`http://nice-tits.org/ lol`
`13:41.17`	`mut`	`..`
`13:41.58`	`mishehu`	`RoyK: that's like the pic of the wet pussy I had on my web page some 10 years ago.`
`13:42.29`	`mishehu`	`click on it, see a cat getting a bath, and get chastized for being a pervert`
`13:42.46`	`mut`	`omfg`
`13:42.59`	`mut`	`there is this fricking fly in the office and it keeps landing on my arm then flying away`
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`13:43.06`	`mut`	`it's getting sooooooooo fsckin annoying`
`13:43.13`	`mishehu`	`mut: you are not fast enough.`
`13:43.19`	`mut`	`i know`
`13:43.22`	`mut`	`makin me mad`
`13:43.25`	`mishehu`	`think of it as quake, you vs. the fly.`
`13:43.25`	`mut`	`i need a bug zapper`
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`13:43.45`	`mishehu`	`get out a bfg9000, wait for it to land on your arm, and fire!`
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`13:44.40`	`mut`	`o_o`
`13:45.01`	`mut`	`i need some food`
`13:45.13`	`mut`	`i put liek 1/4 cup of sugar in my coffee today`
`13:45.24`	`mut`	`should keep me going til dinner`
`13:45.27`	`frenzy`	`14lol`
`13:45.50`	`frenzy`	`14no wonder the flys are all over you..`
`13:45.51`	`frenzy`	`14:P`
`13:45.57`	`mut`	`heh`
`13:46.14`	`mut`	`ya it's probly secreting out my skin`
`13:46.24`	`mut`	`least i'll smell sweet`
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`13:47.08`	`mut`	`i'm not good at this whole running a beta test thing..`
`13:47.18`	`mut`	`i gotta create all these follow up emails and junk`
`13:47.20`	`nighty-`	`astoria: 'lo`
`13:47.24`	`mut`	`and i dunno what to say`
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`13:59.00`	`fanguin`	`is there a problem in using "deadagi" for all agi programms? or the same question asked in another way: why should i use agi and not deadagi?`
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`14:05.15`	`RoyK`	`hmmmmm`
`14:05.34`	`RoyK`	`the jitterbuffer on ATAs etc are ususally settable to max nn ms`
`14:06.38`	`coppice`	`they typically have a "lock down the time for faxes" mode too. pity it hardly ever works :-)`
`14:08.14`	`tzanger`	`coppice: I'm trying to do lowlevel system init for this embedded system but I'm loading my new image into DRAM (there's a debugger in ROM I can use to make things easy for now) -- I was trying to figure out why the hell my system init killed the board. I was initializing the DRAM controller in the system init. :-)`
`14:09.33`	`coppice`	`i typically figure out its something like that very quickly..... then tracking the exact error takes forever :-)`
`14:11.05`	`Cresl1n`	`yeah`
`14:11.16`	`Cresl1n`	`embedded development can suck a lot`
`14:11.32`	`Cresl1n`	`it's a pretty cool feeling when you get it all working though`
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`14:16.13`	`tzanger`	`yup`
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`14:16.48`	`tzanger`	`unfortunately I don't have a BDM hooked up... I have this very cool Edgeport/21 (2 RS232 1 LPT) USB box for my laptop but the coldfire BDM code wants direct port access`
`14:17.05`	`tzanger`	`I swear one of these days I will hack away at it and see if I can't do it over USB, there's technically no reason for it not to work`
`14:17.22`	`Hmmhesays`	`looking for international termination providers kind of sucks`
`14:17.30`	`Ariel_`	`morning everyone`
`14:17.37`	`tzanger`	`I fucking hate parallel port stuff, they always do direct port access and shit in my soup`
`14:17.41`	`Hmmhesays`	`especially when the wiki doesn't seem to be working`
`14:17.46`	`coppice`	`all good embedded people do everything over jtag these days :-)`
`14:18.07`	`tzanger`	`coppice: even the JTAG stuff wants parallel port access but htere are USB ones`
`14:18.15`	`tzanger`	`the BDM stuff is almost always JTAG anyway`
`14:18.27`	`brimstone`	`can someone in Canada verify that Digium's 1-877-LINUX-ME number works please?`
`14:18.28`	`tzanger`	`this particular board (just one I had lying around from years ago) is P&E BDM though`
`14:18.36`	`coppice`	`wiggler stuff is a little slow`
`14:18.42`	`tzanger`	`coppice: agreed`
`14:19.09`	`tzanger`	`877-546-8963 "please hang up and try your call again"`
`14:19.20`	`tzanger`	`er sorry number you have reached is not in service not the other message`
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`14:19.28`	`tzanger`	`I'm in Ontario and that was over a Bell Canada PRI`
`14:19.34`	`brimstone`	`huh, ok, thanks tzanger`
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`14:19.39`	`tzanger`	`my blackfin development will all be over JTAG`
`14:20.05`	`coppice`	`oh, a DSP job`
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`14:23.56`	`tzanger`	`coppice: yeah for the asterisk appliance I want ot build`
`14:24.11`	`tzanger`	`I'd like to see what I can do with a little coldfire though too just for shits and giggles`
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`14:24.50`	`coppice`	`damn big appliance if it needs a blackfin. are you trying to do HD video or process some E1s`
`14:26.25`	`tzanger`	`coppice: nah, up to a half dozen POTS channels`
`14:26.28`	`tzanger`	`er dozen sorry`
`14:26.51`	`tzanger`	`doesn't need a blackfin, it's just what I have handy and it's not too pricey either`
`14:27.23`	`coppice`	`not sure how much a blackfin would be. about $6 or $7, I guess`
`14:27.24`	`tzanger`	`I want to do transcodes and echo cancel on it though which is why I am starting with a decent proc and seeing what it takes`
`14:27.29`	`tzanger`	`coppice: yup about that`
`14:27.44`	`tzanger`	`and you can upgrade to the bf with a PCI interface and throw T1 card in it if you really want`
`14:27.59`	`tzanger`	`but I imagine that's beyond the scope of the design :-)`
`14:28.11`	`tzanger`	`<-- never done PCI design before, my kernel hacker friend says it's not all that difficult`
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`14:28.59`	`mut`	`nothing is difficult when ya know how to do it`
`14:29.01`	`mut`	`just time consuming`
`14:29.15`	`ManxPower`	`I hope nobody ever adds a PCI interface and throws a T-1 card into me.`
`14:29.24`	`mut`	`why not`
`14:29.26`	`coppice`	`PCI stuff isn't too hard, and the kits take care of most things. a lot goes on down under, though`
`14:29.27`	`ManxPower`	`<tzanger> and you can upgrade to the bf with a PCI interface.....`
`14:30.05`	`mut`	`meh i gotta pee`
`14:30.07`	`mut`	`too much coffee`
`14:30.12`	`mut`	`:P`
`14:30.19`	`tzanger`	`coppice: well that's just it, I want to understand and work with the 'down under' part`
`14:30.23`	`mut`	`yea, i figured you'de all like to know`
`14:30.24`	`tzanger`	`bus level stuff`
`14:30.41`	`tzanger`	`ManxPower: you are bf?`
`14:30.51`	`sivana`	`tzanger: I meet with Mark next Tues`
`14:31.15`	`tzanger`	`yeah?`
`14:31.27`	`sivana`	`ya.. SCS`
`14:32.17`	`tzanger`	`but yeah the blackfin is more designed for video stuff`
`14:32.49`	`tzanger`	`just tells me I have power to spare :-) I grabbed a copy of the dspstudio so I can write optimized code for the parts I need and then just link it back in with the unoptimized gcc output`
`14:32.54`	`tzanger`	`I'm a ways away from that yet`
`14:33.16`	`RoyK`	`anyone here that knows how I can get cheap termination in spain?`
`14:33.31`	`mut`	`guns for hire are never cheap`
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`14:33.36`	`mut`	`less you find a bum..`
`14:33.59`	`h3x`	`lathos: your wife gets around so much she needs pci-express 16x`
`14:34.08`	`h3x`	`slot`
`14:34.17`	`mut`	`hyuk hyuk`
`14:34.26`	`h3x`	`speaking of which`
`14:34.33`	`h3x`	`when is somebody gonna make a pci-e t1 card`
`14:34.41`	`mut`	`why bothr`
`14:34.47`	`h3x`	`the way things are going you wont be able to buy a new server with regular PCI in about 2 years`
`14:34.54`	`h3x`	`maybe 1`
`14:34.57`	`coppice`	`RoyK: you want a cut price hit man? :-\`
`14:35.00`	`brookshire`	`mut: the 1u servers use them a lot`
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`14:35.07`	`h3x`	`not just that`
`14:35.09`	`mut`	`yea`
`14:35.14`	`h3x`	`anything with the new intel chipset for pentium D and LGA775`
`14:35.23`	`coppice`	`h3x: isa took years to disappear. i expect pci will too`
`14:35.25`	`h3x`	`like only 1 model out of 10 have a single PCI card slot`
`14:35.25`	`mut`	`theres usually least 2 regular pci's tho`
`14:35.32`	`mut`	`always least one`
`14:35.39`	`h3x`	`well im sure it will be around for a while but if you want a really fast machine`
`14:35.56`	`h3x`	`mut: the problem is what card slot falls in slot #6`
`14:35.58`	`h3x`	`for the riser`
`14:36.00`	`mut`	`you probly won't be putting a t1 card in a really fast machine..`
`14:36.01`	`hwt`	`how can i dial from the * CLI?`
`14:36.04`	`h3x`	`there are ribbon cable risers but`
`14:36.11`	`h3x`	`why not`
`14:36.13`	`hwt`	`*CLI> dial 1001 does not work.`
`14:36.14`	`mut`	`what for?`
`14:36.21`	`h3x`	`Uhhh... G.729 and friends?`
`14:36.26`	`mut`	`you don't need a uber server for that`
`14:36.29`	`rephorm`	`hwt: what error does it give?`
`14:36.32`	`h3x`	`the heck`
`14:36.43`	`h3x`	`you need a dual xeon right now to use all of one`
`14:37.00`	`hwt`	`*CLI> dial 1001`
`14:37.00`	`hwt`	`No such command 'dial' (type 'help' for help)`
`14:37.22`	`crash3m`	`so, type help`
`14:37.32`	`h3x`	`asterisk is cpu hungry`
`14:37.33`	`rephorm`	`hwt: make sure that /dev/dsp exists, has proper permissions, and then restart * (or reload chan_oss.so)`
`14:37.39`	`coppice`	`tzanger: blackfin was actually designed for phones`
`14:37.47`	`Cresl1n`	`pshh....`
`14:37.47`	`hwt`	`/dev/dsp does not exist. it's running inside a xen domain.`
`14:37.52`	`Cresl1n`	`asterisk isn't CPU hungry`
`14:37.53`	`h3x`	`if you are using it a certain way anyway`
`14:37.57`	`hwt`	`i just want it to dial on the handset.`
`14:37.59`	`Cresl1n`	`DSP processing is CPU hungry`
`14:37.59`	`hwt`	`for debugigng.`
`14:38.04`	`h3x`	`like if you have a quad t1 board hence the point`
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`14:38.12`	`h3x`	`yeah well that stuff is inside of asterisk`
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`14:38.17`	`mut`	`if you use an entire quad`
`14:38.18`	`brookshire`	`matt!`
`14:38.22`	`brookshire`	`russell!`
`14:38.24`	`mut`	`and every chan needs transcoded`
`14:38.24`	`Cresl1n`	`brookshire!!!!!`
`14:38.24`	`h3x`	`damn this via 1ghz is soooo slow`
`14:38.25`	`Cresl1n`	`:-)`
`14:38.26`	`Cresl1n`	`hey`
`14:38.27`	`rephorm`	`hwt: the dial app needs /dev/dsp (it outputs the audio over the sound card)`
`14:38.42`	`h3x`	`i make'd all these perl modules on a p4 2.8 and it took like 30 seconds`
`14:38.53`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hwt, you can use originate from pbxfreeware.com`
`14:38.56`	`h3x`	`and now on a via 1ghz its taking like 25 minutes+`
`14:38.57`	`hwt`	`rephorm: so it's not possible to just test it?`
`14:38.58`	`tzanger`	`coppice: I did not know that, the blackfin site on analog.com touts its video stuff`
`14:39.01`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`to any chan`
`14:39.04`	`Hmmhesays`	`Friends will always help you out and watch your back. Good friends will padlock your testicles when drunk`
`14:39.15`	`mut`	`no..`
`14:39.19`	`mut`	`they sneak the chic outback`
`14:39.24`	`mut`	`then invite you out back for a smoke`
`14:39.30`	`tzanger`	`hwt: uh... xen doesn't virtualize that. you need to passthrough your PCI sound card then`
`14:39.30`	`mut`	`and then they leave`
`14:39.44`	`tzanger`	`I actually have a sangoma a102u passed trhough to a xenU, I just haven't tried doing anything with it yet`
`14:39.58`	`hwt`	`tzanger: i just want to try it out for debuging. not to place calls.`
`14:40.06`	`tzanger`	`hwt: passthrough the device then`
`14:40.14`	`hwt`	`tzanger: how can i do that?`
`14:40.22`	`coppice`	`tzanger: the blackfin core is a JV between ADI and Intel. Intel needed a core to get into the phone market, and ADI probably though Intel could boost them in various ways. So far it has bombed for Intel, and ADI has a fast core rather than an ultra low power one`
`14:40.35`	`hwt`	`tzanger: if it takes more than 2 minutes it's not important.`
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`14:41.35`	`sivana`	`JerJer: ping`
`14:42.04`	`tzanger`	`coppice: ahh... You have such good history lessons`
`14:42.12`	`tzanger`	`hwt: it'll take more than two minutes.`
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`14:42.50`	`tzanger`	`dammit`
`14:42.59`	`coppice`	`the blackfin is history? i thought it was doing OK :-)`
`14:43.07`	`tzanger`	`coppice: :-) you know what I mean`
`14:44.22`	`Hmmhesays`	`the wiki down for everyone?`
`14:44.26`	`Hmmhesays`	`or does it just hate me today`
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`14:44.28`	`ManxPower`	`~fxofxs`
`14:44.29`	`jbot`	`fxofxs is probably An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage.`
`14:44.30`	`rephorm`	`app_intercept is basically callpickup with the ability to pass in a chan prefix, huh?`
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`14:46.30`	`MichaelSaunders`	`is there a testing tool. I can use for asterisk`
`14:46.43`	`MichaelSaunders`	`eg sipsak or does someone have some examples of using it`
`14:46.55`	`crash3m`	`!google testing asterisk`
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`14:48.29`	`MichaelSaunders`	`I am looking for something different. I am looking for a command line utility that can allow me to test users are configured correctly`
`14:48.51`	`MichaelSaunders`	`I have seen sipsak. I have read the docs on it but havent seen anything`
`14:48.53`	`Meaty`	`Who have scripted jbot ?`
`14:49.50`	`MichaelSaunders`	`twisted: You know alot what do you use`
`14:50.33`	`Meaty`	`~info`
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`14:52.56`	`tzanger`	`I think it's hilarious that I'm using a pair of little C clamps to hold my carrier board to the dev kit board :-)`
`14:53.19`	`tzanger`	`(I put the mating connector on the opposite side of the board and used a passthrough connector but the pins coming up just aren't quite long enough)`
`14:53.25`	`tzanger`	`so the connection's intermittent`
`14:53.29`	`coldfeet`	`is there anyway in astersk exten matching to NOT include a number in the match`
`14:53.35`	`coldfeet`	`eg I have a 6 digit number`
`14:53.37`	`coldfeet`	`123456`
`14:53.53`	`coldfeet`	`I want exten => _XXXXXX to match all 6 digits numbers except this one`
`14:53.54`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: put it BEFORE the generic match`
`14:54.15`	`coldfeet`	`tzanger i cant do that ...let me explain`
`14:54.15`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: I match all DIDs in my pri with a generic _NXXXXXX,1,...`
`14:54.21`	`coldfeet`	`I have 2 included contexts`
`14:54.22`	`tzanger`	`but I have specific ones before`
`14:54.25`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: ok so?`
`14:54.42`	`coldfeet`	`the first if for autoattendant, if number is 123456 it plays`
`14:55.05`	`coldfeet`	`now when it has finished it should wait for a digit, but what it does is to fall through to the 2nd included context which is voicemail`
`14:55.15`	`coldfeet`	`which matches all other 6 digit numbers`
`14:55.30`	`coldfeet`	`if i swap the order then i get no autoattendant`
`14:55.40`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: so have 123456,2,... do what you want it to do`
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`14:56.50`	`coldfeet`	`tzanger in default I have include => auto and include => voicemail`
`14:57.09`	`coldfeet`	`so auto is added first and matched which is all good`
`14:57.23`	`coldfeet`	`but at the end it should not goto include==> voicemail also`
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`14:57.50`	`coldfeet`	`unless I do exten 123456 => include etc...would that work as you are suggesting`
`14:58.09`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: ?? do you have autofallthrough set or something?`
`14:58.14`	`hwt`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:58.19`	`tzanger`	`hwt: no`
`14:58.23`	`hwt`	`what is /dev/dsp needed for?`
`14:58.24`	`tzanger`	`/dev/dsp is for console audio only`
`14:58.56`	`hwt`	`right.`
`14:58.58`	`hwt`	`thanks.`
`14:59.00`	`rephorm`	`hwt: when you dial from the console, the 'phone' doing the dialing is the console using the soundcard for audio, thus needing /dev/dsp :)`
`14:59.25`	`coldfeet`	`tzanger not that I know off, but it just plays the auto attendant, and then goes to the next included extension..which I guess it should..just want to know howto stop it`
`14:59.36`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: as I said`
`14:59.42`	`tzanger`	`123456,1,Playwhatever`
`14:59.48`	`tzanger`	`123456,2,Hangup`
`14:59.50`	`tzanger`	`if that's all you want`
`14:59.50`	`coldfeet`	`can u inlude from a extension`
`14:59.53`	`tzanger`	`it should NOT fall thorugh then`
`14:59.58`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: no, you use goto for htat`
`15:00.13`	`coldfeet`	`if I hangup then the autoattendant doesnt really wait for a answer`
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`15:00.26`	`coldfeet`	`I think goto will have tobe done`
`15:00.26`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: sigh`
`15:00.33`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: how about you script out ON PAPER what it is you want ot happen`
`15:00.36`	`tzanger`	`then maybe I can help`
`15:00.37`	`coldfeet`	`tzanger :-)`
`15:00.51`	`tzanger`	`or you'll see the oslution yourself... you are getting tied up in details of technology instead of using the techology to solve your problem`
`15:01.17`	`tzanger`	`if you want extension 123456 to do something different than any other 6-digit extension, then you make it do it... I'm not trying ot be flip here but that's really all there is to it`
`15:01.30`	`coldfeet`	`call comes through, if call is for 123456 play autoattendant, if other 6 digits number goto voicemail, both these appas autoattendant and voicemail, need to be included from other contexts`
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`15:01.52`	`coppice`	`"tied up in details of technology" - hum, techno-bondage :-)`
`15:01.54`	`coldfeet`	`tzanger I have tha part, its just when am including contexts that it goes pear shaped`
`15:02.20`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: it sounds like you have a dialplan that does what you want but is inflexible. you may have to reorganize how your contexts work to make it clean`
`15:03.08`	`tzanger`	`there are rules for context includes that tend to confuse people... I believe they're well documented on the wiki but the wiki may be down`
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`15:03.30`	`coldfeet`	`yup, and I think it will need to use goto, to do the matching in the defaulkt one, just workking on it now`
`15:03.38`	`tzanger`	`basically if you include a context all the extensions in that context are seen BEFORE anything you have after the include`
`15:03.46`	`coldfeet`	`wiki is fine, been there, I am using the includes merely to make sure the order of matching is good`
`15:03.48`	`tzanger`	`that confuses people sometimes`
`15:03.56`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: yup ok so you have a grasp on it then`
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`15:04.37`	`coldfeet`	`yup, I have virtual pbx running fine for 3 companies on one setup all who drop into separate contexts based upon CompID...I have ser as front end, so no users in sip.conf`
`15:05.12`	`tzanger`	`coldfeet: ahh okay good :-)`
`15:06.37`	`coldfeet`	`thats why I am having problems with this, its just didnt make sense, but I am gonna clean it up, ..hopefully that should work :-)`
`15:06.44`	`coldfeet`	`cheers tzanger`
`15:07.00`	`ManxPower`	`~docs`
`15:07.00`	`jbot`	`well, docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk`
`15:07.01`	`ManxPower`	`~mailinglist`
`15:07.02`	`jbot`	`i guess mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/`
`15:07.06`	`rephorm`	`i have a question. autofallthrough is 'strongly recommended' (and on) in the default configs. however, this seems to break DigitTimeouts (call hangs up when running out of extensions instead of waiting for digits).`
`15:07.23`	`brettnem`	`coldfeet are you using autocreate peer?`
`15:08.06`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`new home for "what distro is best" and "my favorite db is" wars => #asterisk-religion. Come on in, the waters fine!`
`15:08.36`	`brettnem`	`soon it'll be what branch is best`
`15:08.44`	`tzanger`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: :-)`
`15:08.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`that too`
`15:09.05`	`tzanger`	`ManxPower will lead that debate`
`15:09.26`	`brettnem`	`I think we need a page with comparisons`
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`15:09.32`	`brettnem`	`with harveyballs`
`15:09.34`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`sigh`
`15:09.35`	`tzanger`	`a wiki page`
`15:09.39`	`tzanger`	`so we can have page wars`
`15:09.44`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`new home for "what distro is best" and "my favorite db is" wars => #asterisk-religion. Come on in, the waters fine!`
`15:09.46`	`brettnem`	`yay wiki wars`
`15:09.46`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`hehe`
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`15:12.03`	`brettnem`	`Chickens?`
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`15:13.57`	`coldfeet`	`brettnem yes I am using autocreatepeer`
`15:14.38`	`brettnem`	`coldfeet: and what do you do for redundancy with asterisk?? I've been considering the "clustering" patch for realtime..`
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`15:18.59`	`Katty`	`morning`
`15:19.09`	`Hmmhesays`	`it is`
`15:19.09`	`Katty`	`this excel conference is teh sukc :<`
`15:19.16`	`Katty`	`at least they have wifi (((=`
`15:19.32`	`Hmmhesays`	`i'm kind of liking this xml config file`
`15:20.19`	`mut`	`ok`
`15:20.20`	`mut`	`FYI`
`15:20.24`	`mut`	`for anyone that needs to know`
`15:20.37`	`mut`	`an ATA won't power 1200ft of wire`
`15:20.59`	`Hmmhesays`	`that one deserves a newflash`
`15:21.06`	`brettnem`	`well which ata..`
`15:21.11`	`mut`	`cisco 188`
`15:21.14`	`mut`	`and sipura 2002`
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`15:21.16`	`Hmmhesays`	`calculate the volatage drop`
`15:21.23`	`Hmmhesays`	`*voltage drop, I don't think any ata will`
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`15:21.34`	`mago2-cn`	`brettnem, where can i find the clustering patch? i'm also a realtime user`
`15:21.47`	`igori`	`hi pals!`
`15:21.56`	`brettnem`	`mago2-cn: it's on the bug tracker. it's not real clustering..`
`15:22.08`	`brettnem`	`cisco 188??`
`15:22.34`	`mut`	`..`
`15:22.41`	`mut`	`i'm no ee`
`15:22.42`	`mut`	`i dunno`
`15:23.11`	`mut`	`whats the resistance of 22guage wire`
`15:23.27`	`igori`	`can anyone help me to connect * to cisco 188 via h.323? I'm using chan_oh323. I'ts really urgent!!! Thanks in advance.`
`15:23.41`	`brettnem`	`oh barf!!`
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`15:25.11`	`mago2-cn`	`what excel conference katty?`
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`15:27.04`	`brettnem`	`mago2-cn: I haven't used it yet.`
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`15:28.03`	`mago2-cn`	`any advice on how to interconnect call manager 3.3(3) and asterisk? could any one give me a starting point?`
`15:28.25`	`shadebob_`	`Hi, I search how I can generate an Out Of Band frequency from Fxs port of my TDM?`
`15:28.39`	`shadebob_`	`a 12 khz frequency`
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`15:28.54`	`TripleFFF2sdf`	`04 01does annyone know if ODBC uses SRV from DNS ? or DNS at all ?`
`15:29.01`	`mago2-cn`	`brettnem: is there a way to specify a secondary mysql connection? in case the primary server or its db fails?`
`15:29.14`	`brettnem`	`shadebob_: playtones might do it..`
`15:29.23`	`brettnem`	`TripleFFF2sdf: depends on your implementation`
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`15:29.43`	`brettnem`	`mago2-cn: yeah, the asterisk DB stuff is really lacking.. I don't know of a way`
`15:30.02`	`Darwin35`	`move to sqlite or postgress`
`15:30.21`	`Darwin35`	`res_sqlite is greate add on`
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`15:30.29`	`shadebob_`	`brettnem : yea but it seem 12khz don't pass. It's seem 12000 hz is resampled`
`15:30.38`	`Darwin35`	`and then insted of using the astdb us it'`
`15:30.40`	`rephorm`	`mago2-cn: <hack>you could write a cron job to test the primary server every minute, and rewrite the configs / reload asterisk if it can't connect </hack>`
`15:30.52`	`shadebob_`	`someone known how 12000hz can pass through an FXS port?`
`15:30.59`	`brettnem`	`shadebob_: I'm not sure if 22gauge wire can handle 12K`
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`15:31.09`	`Darwin35`	`I still think that astdb1 needs to be replaced`
`15:31.17`	`brettnem`	`rephorm: gross`
`15:31.28`	`eKo1`	`mago2-cn: why not have two databases running at the same time, one in mysql and the other in sqlite or postgresql`
`15:31.30`	`rephorm`	`brettnem: yeah. hence the <hack> tags ;)`
`15:31.49`	`rephorm`	`brettnem: really ugly... i know a guy who wanted to do it that way though`
`15:31.51`	`igori`	`can anyone help me to connect * to cisco 188 via h.323? I'm using chan_oh323. I'ts really urgent!!! Thanks in advance.`
`15:31.52`	`brettnem`	`Darwin35: the realtime "clustering" patch is essentially that..`
`15:32.07`	`Darwin35`	`not seen the patch`
`15:32.24`	`brettnem`	`sounds interesting.. lets servers even share registries`
`15:32.25`	`shadebob_`	`brettnem : my telco send to my payphone a 12khz frequency to start billing.`
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`15:32.35`	`Darwin35`	`but I think that astdb1 needs to be pulled out all togeteher`
`15:32.38`	`brettnem`	`ahh.. a payphone`
`15:32.57`	`shadebob_`	`brettnem ... yea`
`15:33.06`	`Darwin35`	`hmm payphones and asterisk ???`
`15:33.10`	`brettnem`	`shadebob_: what makes you think that 12000 is resampled?`
`15:33.28`	`brettnem`	`heh.. blue boxing..`
`15:33.37`	`Darwin35`	`how do you get asterisk to know how to time the calls`
`15:33.45`	`brettnem`	`what?`
`15:33.48`	`shadebob_`	`I see in tonezone.c (zaptel) a : (freq1 / 8000.0)`
`15:34.24`	`brettnem`	`shadebob_: well DS0s operate at 8Khz.. so what do you expect?`
`15:34.25`	`mago2-cn`	`eko1: it is a good solution but involves more knowledge, it is more complicated`
`15:34.40`	`eKo1`	`not really`
`15:34.49`	`shadebob_`	`Darwin35 : when an extension is dialled, i search on a mysql table duration of a unit. And after I must send a 12khz frequency to launch a coin demand`
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`15:35.13`	`shadebob_`	`brettnem : Do you see a potential solution ?`
`15:35.40`	`Darwin35`	`shade you should document this setup . I was thinking of a few payphone setups`
`15:35.49`	`brettnem`	`shadebob_: no, I've never tried sending those freqs out a line rated for 3.1 kHz`
`15:36.04`	`shadebob_`	`brettnem : me too ;)`
`15:36.37`	`Darwin35`	`I have 15 payphones that are not in use in my storage unit`
`15:36.43`	`Cresl1n`	`shadebob_ you probably won't be looking at asterisk for doing this`
`15:36.43`	`Cresl1n`	`shadebob_ you probably want to look a little lower, like in the driver for the fxs module`
`15:36.50`	`Darwin35`	`would be fune to set them up in a dorm`
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`15:37.26`	`Darwin35`	`or have one in the apt for when friends come over`
`15:37.34`	`Darwin35`	`make them use the payphone`
`15:37.38`	`brettnem`	`shadebob_: check out ZT_CHUNKSIZE in zaptel.h .. that's what locks the sample rate at 8k`
`15:37.45`	`mago2-cn`	`eko1: and what about for example, switches on extensions, will they be able to switch a context to different dbs?`
`15:37.47`	`Cresl1n`	`shadebob_: I haven't looked at the interface on the part that's used on the FXS module, but you'd probably add some sort of ioctl for this`
`15:38.21`	`eKo1`	`mago2-cn: I don't know.`
`15:39.52`	`Darwin35`	`well I hope you take time to document it . and put it on the wiki`
`15:40.18`	`Darwin35`	`back to work on gasman`
`15:40.24`	`brettnem`	`gasman?`
`15:40.30`	`Darwin35`	`gastman`
`15:40.37`	`brettnem`	`that old thing??`
`15:40.41`	`brettnem`	`;)`
`15:40.45`	`Darwin35`	`we have changed alot`
`15:41.29`	`Darwin35`	`we added a page to add iax exten and sip exten`
`15:41.54`	`Darwin35`	`now adding in h323`
`15:42.00`	`Darwin35`	`and sccp`
`15:42.04`	`Darwin35`	`and skinny`
`15:42.25`	`brettnem`	`what is the latest status on h323 anyway?`
`15:42.36`	`Darwin35`	`not sure I dont use h323`
`15:42.41`	`mago2-cn`	`can a context have two switch statements with different families?`
`15:42.42`	`Darwin35`	`i use iax`
`15:43.01`	`brettnem`	`switch statements are dangerous...`
`15:43.05`	`Darwin35`	`all my phones are iax`
`15:43.26`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: other than the fact there are now at least FOUR H323 channel drivers for Asterisk? Not much. 8-)`
`15:43.33`	`brettnem`	`heh`
`15:43.42`	`brettnem`	`do any of them actually work? without sucking?`
`15:44.00`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: My money is on the ooh323 in asterisk-addons`
`15:44.15`	`ManxPower`	`Digium DID pay a company to create it, afterall.`
`15:44.15`	`Ethon`	`Hi, can someone help me with a strange problem on CallingPres?`
`15:44.20`	`brettnem`	`or should I just stick with something like yate?`
`15:44.32`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: stick with YATE.`
`15:44.54`	`brettnem`	`is that.. um.. sarcasm?`
`15:45.06`	`ManxPower`	`I would use YATE, but we have a policy of not using software written by Angry Young Romanian Women.`
`15:45.25`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: yes, it is.`
`15:45.27`	`brettnem`	`So I guess you don't use SER either?`
`15:45.50`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: have not found a need for SER in any network I manage nor any projects we have in the pipeline.`
`15:45.55`	`brettnem`	`well, I was looking for something to be reliable for h.323..`
`15:46.07`	`brettnem`	`ManxPower: how do you manage redundancy?`
`15:46.09`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: try the ooh323 in asterisk-addons.`
`15:46.16`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: redundancy?`
`15:46.24`	`brettnem`	`yeah, like "backup" and stuff..`
`15:46.26`	`brettnem`	`;)`
`15:46.39`	`ManxPower`	`My clients have never bought a backup PBX for their locations and have no plans to do so.`
`15:46.59`	`brettnem`	`oh, you are just using it for remote locations?`
`15:47.20`	`brettnem`	`I'm tring to build core switching components`
`15:47.26`	`ManxPower`	`Once 1.2.3 comes out we'll start to use Realtime and let devices register to another location if there's a local outage.`
`15:47.46`	`brettnem`	`yeah, I'm thinking of doing that..`
`15:47.53`	`brettnem`	`heard some interesting problems with that and NAT..`
`15:47.56`	`Darwin35`	`I need a good doc on realtime`
`15:47.59`	`ManxPower`	`the telco can handle rerouting of calls to another office if there's a T-1 outage.`
`15:48.04`	`Darwin35`	`I have yet to play with it`
`15:48.05`	`brettnem`	`Darwin35: go fish`
`15:48.13`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: problems with what and NAT?`
`15:48.20`	`brettnem`	`ManxPower: heh, I am the telco`
`15:48.20`	`Darwin35`	`do you have a queen`
`15:48.35`	`Nuxi`	`Remember NAT is only a problem if you use it.`
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`15:48.53`	`brettnem`	`ManxPower: yeah, some broken nats only open the port to the originator. so if a different server sends it a call, it will be from the wrong IP..`
`15:48.54`	`ManxPower`	`Nat's not a problem for me even when I do use it.`
`15:48.58`	`brettnem`	`Nuxi: good point!`
`15:49.13`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: Um, that's pretty standard.`
`15:49.27`	`brettnem`	`ManxPower: ah, well.. then problem.`
`15:49.33`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: Um, why?`
`15:50.09`	`brettnem`	`well, if you register to server 1... backend replication sends server2 the registration.. then server 1 dies, server 2 can't reach server 1 becaue the nat mapping isn't there for it.`
`15:50.27`	`ManxPower`	`It's called port forwarding, dearie.`
`15:50.52`	`brettnem`	`suckage`
`15:50.55`	`brettnem`	`dearie?`
`15:50.59`	`devel`	`brettnem, there is currently nothing in place for the "backend replication", is there?`
`15:51.09`	`ManxPower`	`My SIPura automatically registers with the correct IP address with no need for changes on the client or the server.`
`15:51.15`	`brettnem`	`devel: there is a patch for realtime "clustering"`
`15:51.24`	`ManxPower`	`i.e. when it moves between NAT and non-NAT`
`15:51.30`	`devel`	`ah. i hadn't seen that in realtime yet`
`15:51.43`	`brettnem`	`ManxPower: yeah, that's not the problem, it's the nat mapping (if you arn't doing port forwarding)`
`15:52.01`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: um, no. Your tell your SIP device that the backup server is a different IP`
`15:52.06`	`mishehu`	`bah.`
`15:52.14`	`brettnem`	`ah, if the device supports that`
`15:52.18`	`brettnem`	`then no problem, sure`
`15:52.22`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: most of them seem to.`
`15:52.36`	`brettnem`	`adito 3104 doesn't. grr`
`15:52.39`	`brettnem`	`-o`
`15:52.42`	`devel`	`there is still a problem with incoming calls (if you don't have that registration replication in place)`
`15:52.58`	`brettnem`	`devel: right`
`15:53.15`	`brettnem`	`but even if you do, the nat mappings or port forwarding has to be set up right`
`15:53.16`	`ManxPower`	`devel: um, registration only affects calls from Asterisk TO a device with a dynamic IP.`
`15:53.22`	`Godsey`	`might anyone be able to tell me how to probably do a backtrace w/ gdb?`
`15:53.37`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: if you are going to put an Asterisk server behind NAT it's more work.`
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`15:53.43`	`riksta`	`thread apply bt full`
`15:53.59`	`brettnem`	`ManxPower: I meant the device, I think asterisk behind nat is crazy`
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`15:54.20`	`Godsey`	`riksta, should that yeild output?`
`15:54.21`	`brettnem`	`unless it's only acting as a UA in that direction.`
`15:54.37`	`riksta`	`i think so, when it crashes you press ctrl+c`
`15:54.51`	`Godsey`	`oh, I only have a core to work with`
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`15:55.06`	`Godsey`	`do I need to run asterisk through gdb and wait for it to crash`
`15:55.28`	`riksta`	`yeah`
`15:55.39`	`Qwell`	`unless you've got the core`
`15:55.45`	`Godsey`	`I have lots of cores`
`15:55.58`	`Qwell`	`There is a howto on the wiki I believe`
`15:56.04`	`Godsey`	`ok I'll search`
`15:56.10`	`mago2-cn`	`is it possible to bind any .conf to a db?`
`15:56.25`	`Qwell`	`mago2-cn: realtime. search the wiki`
`15:56.29`	`riksta`	`mago2-cn: with realtime`
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`15:57.48`	`Arathorn`	`hi - is there a syntax for escaping characters in extension patterns?`
`15:58.00`	`mago2-cn`	`i have already running realtime, but the wiki doesn't say anything about modules.conf in realtime for example`
`15:58.20`	`Arathorn`	`I have some extensions which are alphanumeric, and I want to avoid colons and slashes being overinterpretted in the description of them...`
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`15:58.27`	`mago2-cn`	`to enable a more centralized management`
`15:59.02`	`mago2-cn`	`is it possible?`
`16:00.05`	`shadebob_`	`Is it possible to send a reversal polarity from the diaplan?`
`16:00.16`	`ManxPower`	`shadebob_: no`
`16:00.31`	`Cresl1n`	`shadebob_: again... no`
`16:00.33`	`shadebob_`	`ManxPower : definitively non?`
`16:00.34`	`Cresl1n`	`:-)`
`16:00.50`	`Cresl1n`	`shadebob_: not without writing an app that does that`
`16:01.10`	`shadebob_`	`Crel1n : ok ;)`
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`16:02.44`	`brettnem`	`shadebob_: check the bug tracker.. I think there is a zaptel patch for polarity reversal`
`16:03.03`	`brettnem`	`Cresl1n: I heard a rumor you are developing a ss7 stack for asterisk?`
`16:03.04`	`devel`	`ManxPower, you just unwittingly saved me (possibly) tens of manhours of work. i owe you a beverage or two.`
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`16:03.32`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: yeah, I posted something about it on asterisk-ss7`
`16:03.59`	`brettnem`	`Cresl1n: interested in working with a CLEC on it?`
`16:04.06`	`ManxPower`	`devel: How did I do that?`
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`16:04.42`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: I'll probably need some lines to test with`
`16:04.43`	`ManxPower`	`shadeboboo: What DEVICE are you wanting to reverse polarity on?`
`16:04.44`	`devel`	`ManxPower, the whole registration/dynamic/failover thing. i think i was trying to fix a problem that didn't need to exist.`
`16:04.56`	`ManxPower`	`devel: nod.`
`16:05.16`	`brettnem`	`devel: how do you make the problem not exist?`
`16:05.21`	`ManxPower`	`devel: Now in a few specific situations SER, STUN, etc are needed, but FAR less often than people think.`
`16:06.14`	`brettnem`	`Cresl1n: how do you support ISUP signalling where the IMT is on a different box than where the signalling links are?`
`16:06.14`	`ManxPower`	`But you can almost always design your network to not require them.`
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`16:06.14`	`devel`	`brettnem, i just don't use dynamic addressing (which was actually "in the pipe" anyway, but i hadn't mentally carried it to it's full extent)`
`16:06.14`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: sorry, don't know what an IMT is... you'll have to clarify that`
`16:06.20`	`brettnem`	`Cresl1n: the actual trunk.. sorry.`
`16:06.30`	`brettnem`	`bearer path`
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`16:07.04`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: Um, Asterisk doesn't support the D-Channel and the B-Channels on different boxes as far as I know.`
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`16:07.12`	`ManxPower`	`shadeboboo: What DEVICE are you wanting to reverse polarity on?`
`16:07.26`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: I haven't gotten to doing something like that yet`
`16:07.32`	`brettnem`	`ManxPower: I'm talking about an ss7 stack that Cresl1n is working on.. oob signalling is inherent`
`16:07.42`	`brettnem`	`Cresl1n: ah`
`16:07.49`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: are you referring to the bearer channels being on other PCs?`
`16:07.51`	`brettnem`	`So ss7 for little networks then?`
`16:07.53`	`brettnem`	`yes`
`16:07.57`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: Ah. I didn't know Cresl1n had gone crazy and started to tackle SS7`
`16:08.03`	`brettnem`	`haha yep`
`16:08.11`	`Godsey`	`ok I didn't do gdb asterisk core :)`
`16:08.18`	`Godsey`	`I did gdb\ncore blah`
`16:08.28`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: I was thinking about maybe passing relevant signalling data for those bearers over a socket`
`16:08.35`	`Cresl1n`	`on the network`
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`16:08.51`	`Nuxi`	`Anybody using a dhcp-like mechanism to hand out dynamic phone numbers?`
`16:09.00`	`brettnem`	`Cresl1n: just need to route based on OPC/DPC/TCIC to an IP.. I think socket would be ok. right?`
`16:09.03`	`ManxPower`	`Cresl1n: So when is the Digium T-3 card going to ship?`
`16:09.05`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: there's a lot of different ways to approach it`
`16:09.12`	`brettnem`	`heh`
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`16:09.52`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: right now I'm trying to get all the protocol stuff worked out... the funny configurations can be worked on more after that`
`16:09.59`	`brettnem`	`Cresl1n: well, I've got some links.. let me know if you are interested.. I got a whole lot of traffic and I'm directly connected to the RBOC (SBC)`
`16:10.21`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: can you drop me an email at creslin@digium.com?`
`16:10.32`	`brettnem`	`Cresl1n: well F-Links arn't really used in the US. So you will almost always have signalling go to one place and bearer goto another.`
`16:10.35`	`brettnem`	`yeah sure.`
`16:10.47`	`brettnem`	`heh, I sent an email a few days back to your linux-support.net email`
`16:10.57`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: right now, I'm focusing my design on the ITU standards`
`16:11.00`	`Nuxi`	`Is it possible to do something like NAT for phone numbers?`
`16:11.09`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: but I'm planning on doing ANSI networks as well`
`16:11.10`	`Godsey`	`ok, here is my backtrace`
`16:11.11`	`Godsey`	`http://pastebin.ca/19620`
`16:11.14`	`ManxPower`	`Nuxi: It's called "Call Forwarding"`
`16:11.52`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: My first link offers were in europe, so I started off with that design`
`16:12.15`	`Nuxi`	`Except that it would be wishy-washy call forwarding. I want something that opens numbers from the inside like NAT.`
`16:12.23`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: but I've made it so it should be pretty easy to make ANSI and ITU style SS7 configurable`
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`16:13.30`	`Nuxi`	`When my employee calls a number, when the other side returns the call it should go to that employee.`
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`16:13.59`	`Nuxi`	`Trying to cut down the number of numbers.`
`16:14.35`	`mut`	`like extensions?!`
`16:14.37`	`ManxPower`	`Nuxi: then you want a DID`
`16:14.53`	`Cresl1n`	`brettnem: what kind of links do you have available?`
`16:14.58`	`ManxPower`	`Nuxi: Actually DID on PRI`
`16:15.03`	`mut`	`it's a new concept in the telcom world, i've been beta testing the solution and it seems to be working`
`16:15.24`	`mut`	`& sugar`
`16:15.30`	`ManxPower`	`mut: you are the one that invented extensions!!!!!!????????`
`16:15.45`	`Nuxi`	`When an employee turns on their phone, it grabs a phone number out of the pool of pseudo phone numbers. When they call out, it opens the real number back to them for the number they dialed.`
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`16:15.52`	`mut`	`no, but i've been in the scene since the alpha testing`
`16:15.53`	`mago2-cn`	`is there an incominglimit for sip as well as it is for h.323?`
`16:15.59`	`mut`	`it's awesome man`
`16:16.06`	`ManxPower`	`Nuxi: that has got to be one of the worst designs I've ever seen!`
`16:16.10`	`Nuxi`	`That way the customer doesn't have to mess with extensions.`
`16:16.49`	`ManxPower`	`Nuxi: that way you are limiting your self in so many ways and make the entire setup so much more complicated than it needs to be.`
`16:17.12`	`mut`	`so.. if you call 10 people you need 10 DIDs..`
`16:17.21`	`mut`	`and how long does it take for that number to expire`
`16:17.30`	`mut`	`and wth are you thinking`
`16:17.35`	`ManxPower`	`and what kind of drugs were you on at the time?`
`16:17.58`	`Godsey`	`#14 0x0807c0ff in pbx_extension_helper (c=0x8c5bb48, context=0x8c5bca0 "macro-dial",`
`16:18.01`	`Godsey`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:18.04`	`Godsey`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:18.09`	`Godsey`	`most of my backtraces show a really weird caller id like that`
`16:18.10`	`mut`	`it's simple to say "dial call me at 555-555-555 extension 1024"`
`16:18.18`	`mut`	`er shit`
`16:18.20`	`mut`	`yea`
`16:18.30`	`mut`	`i'm missing some numbers`
`16:18.31`	`mut`	`:P`
`16:18.44`	`mut`	`holy crap i gotta calm down`
`16:18.46`	`Nuxi`	`Actually, I'm working on a humor piece about what it would be like if VoIP providers were set up like dialup providers. lol`
`16:19.06`	`ManxPower`	`mut: I have to put Nuxi on /ignore.`
`16:19.19`	`Godsey`	`Nuxi: you grab a # out of the pool?`
`16:19.27`	`Godsey`	`that's stupid and doesn't tie a phone # to a location`
`16:19.34`	`Godsey`	`how do you update the 911 database?`
`16:19.53`	`Nuxi`	`from the leases file.`
`16:19.54`	`essobi`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:20.01`	`rec`	`is away`
`16:20.03`	`Godsey`	`Nuxi: do you update the e911 database?`
`16:21.36`	`Godsey`	`we're an isp and have just over 10k dids`
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`16:23.18`	`mut`	`Telenet is still trying to figure out how to provide us with e911`
`16:23.25`	`mut`	`they can't even get callerid fully working`
`16:23.36`	`mut`	`-_-`
`16:24.01`	`Godsey`	`our pri provider doesn't do caller id name`
`16:24.05`	`Godsey`	`something about a pic database`
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`16:24.26`	`Godsey`	`we use a seperate company for doing 911`
`16:24.28`	`devel`	`bah. our LTM doesn't even provide PRI`
`16:24.41`	`mut`	`.. so call them?`
`16:24.54`	`Godsey`	`the telco extended the co to us w/ a oc12`
`16:25.02`	`Godsey`	`we have 3 ds3 for pri`
`16:25.35`	`mut`	`yeh`
`16:25.43`	`mut`	`we have a whole 1.. that runs data and voice`
`16:25.49`	`mut`	`:P`
`16:25.59`	`Godsey`	`we have 2 fiber uplinks for data :)`
`16:26.03`	`mut`	`and it's oddly broken right now and no one can figure out why`
`16:26.14`	`Godsey`	`one to vancouver, bc and another to seattle`
`16:26.29`	`mut`	`link randomly dies for an unknown reason for a few sec/min`
`16:27.22`	`Godsey`	`that happens w/ our dsl ATM :)`
`16:27.52`	`Godsey`	`tho it sounds like DSL won't be a problem around here much longer`
`16:27.57`	`Godsey`	`(I've never liked it)`
`16:28.32`	`mut`	`we tried it, then the telco found out what we were doing`
`16:28.36`	`Nuxi`	`Anybody heard of unusual uses of Asterisk? like garage door openers, etc?`
`16:28.38`	`mut`	`and decided to go nuts with the bill`
`16:29.13`	`mut`	`call your garage door to open it?`
`16:29.48`	`mut`	`that sounds about as retarded as linking extensions to dids`
`16:29.53`	`mut`	`on per call basis`
`16:29.56`	`glLoadIdentity`	`is it allowed to make phonecall while driving ?`
`16:29.57`	`Godsey`	`Nuxi: asterisk and agi let you do about anything`
`16:30.19`	`Godsey`	`and I integrated asterisk w/ my 2meter autopatch`
`16:30.24`	`Godsey`	`using onetime passwords :)`
`16:31.03`	`Godsey`	`I now let anyone use my autopatch to dial out anywhere in u.s. 5 minute calls`
`16:31.09`	`Superman`	`====================================================================================)`
`16:34.01`	`ManxPower`	`I need to get a life. I lust over coffee makers like most men lust over cars.`
`16:34.15`	`mut`	`uh`
`16:34.28`	`Superman`	`whatever Man`
`16:34.31`	`mut`	`i lust over ass & titties`
`16:34.37`	`eKo1`	`ditto`
`16:34.42`	`devel`	`i'd have to agree with them as well.`
`16:34.43`	`Superman`	`I am an ASS man`
`16:34.46`	`Cresl1n`	`I lust over telephony protocol stuff :-)`
`16:34.53`	`eKo1`	`ewww`
`16:34.55`	`Cresl1n`	`is that wrong of me?`
`16:34.56`	`Cresl1n`	`:-P`
`16:34.57`	`mut`	`you're just a frickin dork Cresl1n`
`16:35.12`	`Cresl1n`	`I won't argue with that statement`
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`16:35.46`	`ManxPower`	`Sorry, but nobody that wrote libpri can be a dork.`
`16:35.57`	`mut`	`uber nerd then..`
`16:35.58`	`Cresl1n`	`awww`
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`16:36.05`	`Cresl1n`	`sorry, I didn't write libpri though :-(`
`16:36.10`	`Cresl1n`	`I just like to work on it :-)`
`16:36.27`	`ManxPower`	`Ah.`
`16:36.36`	`ManxPower`	`Well you work on it a lot.`
`16:36.47`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk would NOT be usable to us without libpri`
`16:36.50`	`Cresl1n`	`but I'm grateful for the props :-)`
`16:36.59`	`mut`	`i think someone spiked my coffee`
`16:37.01`	`ManxPower`	`Granted it sure would be nice if TBCT worked.....`
`16:37.06`	`mut`	`cuz i'm like.. WOW right now`
`16:37.30`	`Superman`	`mut -- you sick man. Check with the team doctor.`
`16:37.53`	`mut`	`team doctor....`
`16:38.03`	`Superman`	`sike.`
`16:38.31`	`mut`	`pshh`
`16:38.33`	`Cresl1n`	`hehe :-)`
`16:38.34`	`mut`	`if i had insurance i wouldn't be wearing glasses with one side busted off em`
`16:38.41`	`Cresl1n`	`TBCT....`
`16:38.50`	`Cresl1n`	`that's a big request`
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`16:38.56`	`Cresl1n`	`it's different on every switchtype`
`16:39.28`	`Superman`	`mut, we need to get you glasses ASAP`
`16:39.30`	`wunderkin`	`Cresl1n, which ones is it currently implemented on? it is on some.. isnt it..?`
`16:40.08`	`mut`	`Superman: no they work fine, cept the one lense is scratched to hell cause it falls out all the time`
`16:40.30`	`Cresl1n`	`well... I threw out an implementation for 5ess, but I heard it doesn't work`
`16:40.44`	`Cresl1n`	`the guy that was going to pay for it decided he wanted it for free`
`16:40.44`	`wunderkin`	`oh ;/`
`16:40.52`	`Cresl1n`	`so I haven't worked on it since`
`16:41.08`	`wunderkin`	`darn`
`16:41.08`	`mut`	`ooooooooooo`
`16:41.14`	`mut`	`my food has arrived!`
`16:41.15`	`mut`	`bbl`
`16:41.54`	`Cresl1n`	`that's my only beef with free software`
`16:41.57`	`ManxPower`	`Cresl1n: if it was critical I'd be offering cash`
`16:42.04`	`Cresl1n`	`lol :-)`
`16:42.07`	`Cresl1n`	`thanks :-)`
`16:42.09`	`blitzrage`	`morning all`
`16:42.16`	`ManxPower`	`As I have done so for manythings before.`
`16:42.29`	`ManxPower`	`Heck anthm got $125 from me a few weeks ago`
`16:42.36`	`mago2-cn`	`hello i've read that is not neccesary to make an install of openh323 to enable asterisk's h323 channel. if i performed a yum install h323, is there any way to remove it? i'm a bit confused\`
`16:42.57`	`Cresl1n`	`people think that everything should be free... software... hardware... everything`
`16:43.03`	`blitzrage`	`mago2-cn: yum remove h323? (and there's h323 in yum now?)`
`16:43.05`	`ManxPower`	`mago2-cn: there are FOUR H323 channel drivers for Asterisk. Check out some of the other stuff`
`16:43.07`	`wunderkin`	`food`
`16:43.16`	`Cresl1n`	`so how do I eat with that attitude :-)`
`16:43.30`	`wunderkin`	`find it hard to swallow?`
`16:43.38`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: some of us just skillfully aquire such hardware :)`
`16:43.38`	`ManxPower`	`Cresl1n: you work for a company, then making money is someone else's problem`
`16:44.00`	`Cresl1n`	`yeah, but if the company doesn't make money... I don't :-(`
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`16:44.14`	`devel`	`is ilbc (on grandstream) broken for anybody else in current cvs, or is it just me?`
`16:44.19`	`Cresl1n`	`oooh....`
`16:44.19`	`blitzrage`	`I agree. I don't understand why some people are so against people making money.`
`16:44.20`	`Cresl1n`	`:-)`
`16:44.28`	`blitzrage`	`we're all trying to do it - we're all trying to eat`
`16:44.33`	`ManxPower`	`Cresl1n: true, but then you find a different company. I'll bet Sangoma would hire you and you could even live some place civilized, like Canada`
`16:44.39`	`Cresl1n`	`lol`
`16:44.54`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: and I've even got a room for you :)`
`16:45.04`	`mago2-cn`	`yes, there is, try yum install openh323`
`16:45.11`	`ManxPower`	`Cresl1n: someone from Digium asked me if I'd consider living in Huntsville. I laughed at them.`
`16:45.12`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: but you can't live with me if you work for Sangoma`
`16:45.31`	`Cresl1n`	`blitzrage: that's ok, I wouldn't want to work there`
`16:45.33`	`mago2-cn`	`openh323-1.13.4-7`
`16:45.37`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: figured as much`
`16:45.54`	`Cresl1n`	`blitzrage: they don't have a long record for hiring asterisk developers anyway`
`16:46.25`	`anthm`	`you should see this sangoma card runnin libpri by itself then =D`
`16:46.27`	`ManxPower`	`....out of the USA. And Toronto is....`
`16:46.35`	`coppice`	`hey, I can speak a bit of the main local language of toronto - cantonese :-)`
`16:46.39`	`devel`	`so... nobody else is seeing ilbc problems?`
`16:46.41`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: yer right - Toronto Rocks`
`16:46.53`	`mago2-cn`	`ManxPower, i'm following instructions to install asterisk's channel. which one do you recommend?`
`16:47.11`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: The past 2 summers I spent my vacation in Toronto`
`16:47.16`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: awesome!`
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`16:47.32`	`ManxPower`	`mago2-cn: H323 is evil. You should at least look at the ooh323 drivers in asterisk-addons`
`16:47.36`	`mago2-cn`	`blitzrage, and to remove also installed dependencies?`
`16:47.58`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: I love how diverse the city is. There are SOOOOOO many different cultures in one place`
`16:48.13`	`blitzrage`	`mago2-cn: no idea - sounds like a yum problem`
`16:48.15`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: nod`
`16:48.17`	`mut`	`..`
`16:48.21`	`mut`	`move to new york..`
`16:48.28`	`ManxPower`	`And clean and low crime (compared to USA cities)`
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`16:48.36`	`cpatry`	`come by Montreal too.`
`16:48.40`	`mut`	`.. move to chicago`
`16:48.52`	`Netrunz`	`Hello everybody. I am a asterisk newb and looking for help with a weird error`
`16:48.55`	`ManxPower`	`mut: Toronto is a lot like New York, but the crime is low, the city is clean, the people are nice. Hmm...OK, it's nothig like New York`
`16:49.05`	`greg_work`	`montreal is a fun city, but it is such a pain to drive in`
`16:49.07`	`Nuxi`	`Move to vista, nevada.`
`16:49.26`	`Nuxi`	`If a crime is committed, you did it, as you are the only one there.`
`16:49.29`	`cpatry`	`greg_work: goto chicago, u wont complain anymore!`
`16:49.29`	`coppice`	`HK is a fun city, and nobody needs to drive`
`16:49.31`	`mut`	`gimme a job`
`16:49.31`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`yay canada`
`16:49.34`	`greg_work`	`cpatry: :p`
`16:49.36`	`blitzrage`	`greg_work: I don't believe ANY driving should be permitted in downtown cores`
`16:49.37`	`mut`	`& i will`
`16:49.47`	`Netrunz`	`anyone willing to help?`
`16:49.52`	`greg_work`	`blitzrage: the entire city is confusing, not just downtown`
`16:49.53`	`cpatry`	`mike: i took some pics of detroit too (from the plane)`
`16:49.54`	`blitzrage`	`I've had a few companies offer me a job in the states if I moved there - I refuse :)`
`16:50.06`	`greg_work`	`and it's not just that signs are in french -- it's that theres almost no signs at all`
`16:50.21`	`cpatry`	`cause we know howto drive :P`
`16:50.30`	`blitzrage`	`cpatry: thats a joke! :)`
`16:50.33`	`ManxPower`	`Canada legalized gay marriage and marijuana. It doesn't get much more civilized than that.`
`16:50.33`	`cpatry`	`mouahhaha`
`16:50.38`	`blitzrage`	`cpatry: french who know how to drive? :D`
`16:50.44`	`coppice`	`blitzrage: have you noticed how those american companies are puzzled that you wouldn't want to move there?`
`16:50.47`	`greg_work`	`i stayed in a hotel on coite de liesse (not sure if that's the right spelling) a couple weeks ago`
`16:50.51`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: marijuana possession isn't legal`
`16:50.52`	`cpatry`	`manx: only mari for medical care, not for personnal use.`
`16:51.04`	`cpatry`	`greg: cote-de-liesse, yeah`
`16:51.16`	`cpatry`	`next time, gimme a call, we'll go chill in downtown.`
`16:51.16`	`blitzrage`	`coppice: yah... kinda weird - I'm like, "uhhh... I already live in a better country... why would I move?" :)`
`16:51.24`	`greg_work`	`THAT is a pain . you can't turn around, if you need to go east, and you're on the west side, you have to just randomly turn off and drive around a bunch of streets to try and find an underpass to switch over`
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`16:51.29`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: it isn't in Amsterdam either, but it might as well be. LOL!`
`16:51.42`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: EXACTLY :)`
`16:51.58`	`Netrunz`	`anyone willing to help me with a asterisk problem, please?`
`16:52.13`	`cpatry`	`Netrunz: u better ask a clear question instead.`
`16:52.20`	`ManxPower`	`I wish Canada WOULD fully legalize and tax it. Would give half the USA cogt a heart attack.`
`16:52.29`	`ManxPower`	`cogt == govt`
`16:52.36`	`Cresl1n`	`coppice: how'd you end up in HK?`
`16:52.42`	`mut`	`heh`
`16:52.43`	`mut`	`ya`
`16:52.48`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: funny enough, I was walking through a path down in a rivene covered in trees. Me and my buddy smoked up, then headed up the hill to be amazing that we had just smoked < 50m from a COP STATION`
`16:52.50`	`devel`	`ah, i see. ilbc doesn't seem to work on 20ms frames any more. 30ms all is well. excellent.`
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`16:53.15`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: LOL!`
`16:53.30`	`Netrunz`	`ok... well when i place a call from a sip client through a sip trunk the call goes fine but after i hang up i get a spawn extension error`
`16:53.44`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: in the USA that could get you 5 years in prison`
`16:53.47`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: that was a shocker - funniest part was we just walked up the hill and were like, "oh!" - as a cop was in his car driving out of the lot`
`16:53.52`	`ManxPower`	`Of course if could also get you a warning too.`
`16:53.54`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: I know! Rediculous.`
`16:53.54`	`Netrunz`	`it looks like it is trying to dial again my sip trunk using number h\|20 ???`
`16:54.05`	`coppice`	`Cres1n: its where the plane went`
`16:54.33`	`ManxPower`	`Netrunz: put the CLI output of a call on pastebin.ca or you could just STOP USING THE PATTERN _.`
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`16:54.52`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: apparently the FBI (I think that was the division) are trying to get a Vancouver man extradited to the US for selling marijuana plant seeds. They had an operation against him for 14 months or something like that.`
`16:55.02`	`blitzrage`	`fuckin' stupid waste of resources if you ask me`
`16:55.06`	`Netrunz`	`what is wrong with the pattern _. ?`
`16:55.11`	`Netrunz`	`i thought it was allowed`
`16:55.16`	`harryvv`	`blitzrage no, it is the DEA involved in that.`
`16:55.21`	`blitzrage`	`Netrunz: it matches EVERYTING - including h, i, etc....`
`16:55.27`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: you're right`
`16:55.29`	`harryvv`	`blitzrage he is from here. And of course is a moron`
`16:55.37`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: well of course he is ;)`
`16:55.44`	`greg_work`	`Netgeeks: dont be lazy, theres only 2 or 3 patterns you need to match`
`16:55.48`	`harryvv`	`we have a HUGE marijuana problem up here.`
`16:55.49`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: but I still dont' believe he should be going to the states for prosecution`
`16:55.50`	`devel`	`Netrunz, the parser says you should use '_X'`
`16:55.59`	`mut`	`problem?`
`16:56.01`	`Netrunz`	`oh, i see. blitz how can i have a pattern to make it dial all numbers towards numbers starting with 3 or 0 to that trunk?`
`16:56.01`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: problem?`
`16:56.09`	`mut`	`not enough supply harryvv?`
`16:56.10`	`harryvv`	`yes, its feeding organized crime.`
`16:56.13`	`blitzrage`	`Netrunz: learn pattern matching`
`16:56.14`	`greg_work`	`NXXXXXX NXXNXXXXXX and 1NXXNXXXXXX. 011. if you want international`
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`16:56.15`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o bkw_] by ChanServ`
`16:56.15`	`blitzrage`	`~docs`
`16:56.16`	`jbot`	`i heard docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk`
`16:56.21`	`brettnem`	`_X. is more appropriate`
`16:56.22`	`greg_work`	`(that is for NA anyways)`
`16:56.24`	`ManxPower`	`Netrunz: _. will match ANY extension, including the "h" extension which is run when the call is hung up`
`16:56.42`	`anthm`	`not if you add exten => h,1,noop`
`16:56.44`	`bkw_`	`brettnem, _. has its place if you know how to use it`
`16:56.49`	`ManxPower`	`Netrunz: the min pattern would be _X. to accomplish a "wildcard dial"`
`16:56.55`	`Netrunz`	`ok thanks guys. I will go check out the docs about patterns`
`16:56.57`	`Netrunz`	`thanks`
`16:57.01`	`bkw_`	`knowing how to use it is half the battle`
`16:57.07`	`brettnem`	`bkw_: comeon, no one uses _. right except for you`
`16:57.12`	`ManxPower`	`anthm: and exten => i and exten => o and exten => a`
`16:57.17`	`bkw_`	`I tried to tell people how to use it`
`16:57.18`	`blitzrage`	`bkw_: but if someone doesn't know how to pattern match, its best to just tell them to never use it`
`16:57.19`	`DarthClue`	`and me`
`16:57.31`	`brettnem`	`ah.. and bkw_'s alter ego. ;)`
`16:57.35`	`DarthClue`	`or tell them the truth so that they actually learn how to do it.`
`16:57.44`	`brettnem`	`or lie lie lie`
`16:57.45`	`bkw_`	`granted _. has its use`
`16:57.51`	`bkw_`	`and in some cases it doesn't`
`16:57.52`	`blitzrage`	`or maybe write some documentation and submit it to the Docs project`
`16:57.54`	`ManxPower`	`DarthClue: Newbies don't care about the truth, they want a fix to their problem.`
`16:57.55`	`bkw_`	`its all about how you write it`
`16:58.02`	`brettnem`	`ewwww`
`16:58.04`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`16:58.07`	`harryvv`	`manx, true that is`
`16:58.33`	`DarthClue`	`ManxPower: the truth will fix the problem 99.999999% of the time and keep them from asking the same thing again later.`
`16:58.54`	`ManxPower`	`harryvv: and a newbie is having to learn plenty without having to learn the Correct Way To Use _.`
`16:59.16`	`brettnem`	`teach them to read the f-n wiki first.. :)`
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`16:59.22`	`DarthClue`	`bah, if they can't learn how to use it then they aren't learning enough.`
`16:59.30`	`mut`	`reading the wiki first is retarded`
`16:59.39`	`mut`	`you fuck your shit up first`
`16:59.39`	`*** part/#asterisk pbxbart (I=user@p54B03285.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`16:59.41`	`mut`	`then read the wiki`
`16:59.46`	`mut`	`so you understand wtf it's talkin about`
`16:59.56`	`mut`	`excuse the french`
`17:00.04`	`ManxPower`	`mut: you speak it well.`
`17:00.08`	`brettnem`	`yeah, ask all your noob questions here before reading.. 280 free asterisk consultants!`
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`17:00.20`	`nolax`	`please help with variables in an expression. exten => 8000,3,GotoIf($["${CALLERIDNUM}" < "10000"]?4:5)`
`17:00.27`	`mut`	`brettnem: yep`
`17:00.29`	`harryvv`	`hehehe`
`17:00.47`	`mut`	`not their problem you have nothing better to do than to sit here all day and listen to em`
`17:00.48`	`nolax`	`Asterisk sees a String, not an Integer, so cant do math. Ideas? thank you`
`17:00.59`	`harryvv`	`http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-likepages.php?page=Asterisk+password+files there is lots for a newby to referance.`
`17:01.07`	`greg_work`	`nolax: remove the quotes`
`17:01.10`	`*** part/#asterisk Uberbot (N=Uberbot@pcp01880954pcs.sandia01.nm.comcast.net)`
`17:01.22`	`ManxPower`	`nolax: what is it not doing?`
`17:01.29`	`brettnem`	`mut: actually, most of us in here answering questions feel like we are part of a community.. we answer questions, but we do get some value in participating.`
`17:01.35`	`mut`	`arithematic i'de assume`
`17:01.44`	`ManxPower`	`nolax: and what is the VALUE of ${CALLERIDNUM}?`
`17:01.46`	`nolax`	`n 'extensions.conf', callerid=John <XXXX>`
`17:01.57`	`nolax`	`When XXXX=0 or 1, which are < 10000, evaluates TRUE, which it should`
`17:02.05`	`nolax`	`When XXXX=2 , evaluates False, not good`
`17:02.07`	`coppice`	`this place is turning into a community? AH. I'm leaving.`
`17:02.21`	`ManxPower`	`nolax: put a Noop(CALLERIDNUM= ${CALLERIDNUM}) right before your Gotoif and see if that's what it ACTIALLY is.`
`17:02.22`	`brettnem`	`oh damn`
`17:02.36`	`*** join/#asterisk nwhit (N=nwhit@ns1.whittrio.com)`
`17:02.37`	`Meaty`	`WHo have created jbot ?`
`17:02.43`	`mut`	`it's meet your neighbor day!`
`17:02.47`	`nolax`	`txs...will try :)`
`17:02.51`	`brettnem`	`block party on the wiki`
`17:02.52`	`ManxPower`	`nolax: Also do you REALLY care that the callerid num is less than 10000 or do you just care that the LEN of CALLERIDNUM is greater than 4?`
`17:02.58`	`blitzrage`	`jbot: are you alive?`
`17:02.58`	`jbot`	`The dead cannot live`
`17:02.59`	`Nuxi`	`humor => http://eder.us/projects/voipdialup/ need criticism.`
`17:03.11`	`mut`	`jbot: are you concious?`
`17:03.12`	`blitzrage`	`jbot: then answer my msg's damnit!`
`17:03.22`	`mut`	`yea thats what i thought`
`17:03.49`	`Cresl1n`	`jbot: what is your name?`
`17:03.51`	`jbot`	`Cresl1n: what are you talking about?`
`17:03.59`	`*** join/#asterisk MRH2 (N=Mr_happy@fcirc-adsl.demon.co.uk)`
`17:04.00`	`nolax`	`do care to only grab certain extensions, weed out NxxNxxxxxx`
`17:04.00`	`Cresl1n`	`ooh.. that was good`
`17:04.05`	`mut`	`jbot: jbot is me`
`17:04.05`	`jbot`	`...but jbot is already something else...`
`17:04.16`	`DarthClue`	`jbot: jbot`
`17:04.16`	`jbot`	`i heard jbot is the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and purl`
`17:04.18`	`mut`	`o_O`
`17:04.21`	`Meaty`	`jbot: Who is your creator ?`
`17:04.22`	`jbot`	`Meaty: what are you talking about?`
`17:04.29`	`mut`	`jbot: you is jbot`
`17:04.29`	`jbot`	`mut: I think you lost me on that one`
`17:04.33`	`mut`	`heh`
`17:04.37`	`DarthClue`	`jbot: you suck`
`17:04.39`	`brettnem`	`jbot: who is your master?`
`17:04.40`	`jbot`	`brettnem: what are you talking about?`
`17:04.46`	`Meaty`	`~info`
`17:04.48`	`mut`	`well`
`17:04.50`	`brettnem`	`jbot: you got a stupid name`
`17:04.58`	`Meaty`	`~jbot`
`17:04.58`	`jbot`	`[jbot] the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and purl`
`17:04.59`	`mut`	`that sub was mighty tastey`
`17:05.08`	`ManxPower`	`nolax: so GotoIf($[${LEN(${CALLERIDNUM})} > 4]?4:5) w would not work?`
`17:05.31`	`Nuxi`	`jbot is also jbot`
`17:05.40`	`Meaty`	`jbot is just jbot`
`17:05.44`	`Nuxi`	`~jbot jbot is also jbot`
`17:05.44`	`jbot`	`okay, Nuxi`
`17:05.45`	`Meaty`	`~jbot`
`17:05.45`	`jbot`	`well, jbot is the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and purl, or jbot`
`17:06.05`	`nolax`	`Manx: that may just do the trick`
`17:06.42`	`Meaty`	`http://www.capturedbyrobots.com/jbot.htm`
`17:07.39`	`*** join/#asterisk shadebob_ (N=shadebob@ll81-144-114-192-81.ll81.iam.net.ma)`
`17:07.41`	`*** part/#asterisk Arathorn (N=arathorn@chinook.mxtelecom.com)`
`17:07.53`	`Meaty`	`https://jbot.dev.java.net/ Is it jbot ?`
`17:08.08`	`MRH2`	`can occasional volume fading in and out be caused by VOIP/jitter or is it more likely a voltage/telco issue at the voip providers gateway?`
`17:08.22`	`Nuxi`	`we should replace jbot with agibot`
`17:08.34`	`Meaty`	`:o`
`17:08.34`	`mut`	`uhm`
`17:08.41`	`mut`	`how does jbot have a sense of presence`
`17:08.47`	`harryvv`	`never heard of that one mrh2`
`17:08.53`	`mut`	`must have a lot turned off`
`17:08.53`	`mut`	`?`
`17:08.58`	`Meaty`	`me too mrh2`
`17:09.04`	`Nuxi`	`~jbot`
`17:09.04`	`jbot`	`hmm... jbot is the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and purl, or jbot`
`17:09.15`	`mut`	`jbot: karma mut++`
`17:09.15`	`jbot`	`mut++ has neutral karma`
`17:09.25`	`DarthClue`	`jbot: karma DarthClue`
`17:09.25`	`jbot`	`darthclue has neutral karma`
`17:09.27`	`mut`	`doh`
`17:09.29`	`Meaty`	`cbot is existing ?`
`17:09.30`	`Meaty`	`:)`
`17:09.38`	`DarthClue`	`jbot: fsck mut`
`17:09.38`	`jbot`	`e2fsck /dev/mut : warning! filesystem contains dumbasses!`
`17:09.45`	`DarthClue`	`jbot: fsck DarthClue`
`17:09.45`	`jbot`	`e2fsck /dev/DarthClue : warning! filesystem contains idiots!`
`17:09.53`	`mut`	`pshaw`
`17:09.58`	`mut`	`strike that.. reverse it`
`17:09.59`	`DarthClue`	`woohoo! I've been upgraded to an idiot!`
`17:10.08`	`Nuxi`	`jbot rm -rf /`
`17:10.08`	`jbot`	`-rf / is an unperson`
`17:10.18`	`mut`	`a wha`
`17:10.19`	`brettnem`	`unperson?!`
`17:10.28`	`mut`	`hmm`
`17:10.35`	`DarthClue`	`jbot rm mut`
`17:10.35`	`jbot`	`mut is an unperson`
`17:10.35`	`mut`	`jbot: nickometer mut`
`17:10.44`	`Nuxi`	`jbot happy unbirthday too you`
`17:10.52`	`mut`	`jbot: nickometer DarthClue`
`17:10.53`	`brettnem`	`jot: help`
`17:10.59`	`mut`	`yea.. gay`
`17:11.15`	`rec`	`is away`
`17:11.18`	`Nuxi`	`~res_bf`
`17:11.37`	`*** part/#asterisk bsd3 (N=bsd@203.134.193.109)`
`17:11.41`	`ManxPower`	`~fxofxs`
`17:11.41`	`jbot`	`[fxofxs] An FXO port expects to receive dialtone and receive ring voltage. An FXS port expects to provide dialtone and provide ring voltage.`
`17:11.49`	`Nuxi`	`~gay`
`17:11.49`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, gay is happy`
`17:11.52`	`ManxPower`	`it does help if you use the right command character`
`17:11.55`	`mut`	`~confession`
`17:12.07`	`mut`	`jbot: confession`
`17:12.12`	`mut`	`hmm`
`17:12.15`	`mut`	`it r b0rk`
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`17:12.32`	`Nuxi`	`~\0x0`
`17:12.34`	`ChaotY2k`	`hi there`
`17:12.37`	`MRH2`	`saw in the mailing lists someone had this with a pri and it was thought this was telco related`
`17:12.53`	`mut`	`jbot: factoid`
`17:13.04`	`ChaotY2k`	`i get a "Aug 9 19:09:33 WARNING[8245]: cdr.c:286 ast_cdr_init: CDR already initialized on 'CAPI[contr1/49]/14'" - What does it mean?`
`17:13.21`	`ManxPower`	`jbot, mutt is someone that likes to play with bots`
`17:13.22`	`jbot`	`...but mutt is already something else...`
`17:13.27`	`mut`	`:P`
`17:13.30`	`ManxPower`	`jbot, mut is someone that likes to play with bots`
`17:13.30`	`jbot`	`okay, ManxPower`
`17:13.35`	`ManxPower`	`~mut`
`17:13.35`	`jbot`	`well, mut is someone that likes to play with bots`
`17:13.50`	`mut`	`mut is also strung out on coffee`
`17:13.57`	`mut`	`jbot: mut is also strung out on coffee`
`17:13.57`	`jbot`	`okay, mut`
`17:14.07`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`~mut`
`17:14.07`	`jbot`	`methinks mut is someone that likes to play with bots, or strung out on coffee`
`17:14.09`	`ManxPower`	`jbot, no, mut is someone that has an unhealthy obesssion with playing with bots`
`17:14.10`	`jbot`	`ManxPower: okay`
`17:14.20`	`ManxPower`	`oops`
`17:14.23`	`mut`	`heh`
`17:14.29`	`mut`	`~mut`
`17:14.29`	`jbot`	`from memory, mut is someone that has an unhealthy obesssion with playing with bots`
`17:14.32`	`Nuxi`	`~mysql`
`17:14.32`	`jbot`	`SQL (Structured Query Language) database server. URL: http://www.mysql.com/`
`17:14.35`	`mut`	`doh`
`17:14.35`	`harryvv`	`trying to locate a voip did provider for vancouver`
`17:14.54`	`mut`	`jbot: no, mut is going back to work`
`17:14.54`	`jbot`	`okay, mut`
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`17:15.14`	`MRH2`	`is volume fading in and out something that would be IP network related though?`
`17:15.15`	`Nuxi`	`jbot '; delete from mysql.mysql;`
`17:15.19`	`gtigene`	`Is it possible to earn money writing about Asterisk? (English prose, not code)`
`17:15.48`	`Nuxi`	`~jbot`
`17:15.48`	`jbot`	`somebody said jbot was the same blootbot as apt, ibot, and purl, or jbot`
`17:16.03`	`Cresl1n`	`gtigene: no, every will want what you do for free`
`17:16.04`	`Cresl1n`	`:-P`
`17:16.09`	`*** join/#asterisk sparky0001 (N=mark@mark.keele.netcentral.co.uk)`
`17:16.23`	`harryvv`	`gti, mabey.`
`17:16.27`	`Cresl1n`	`*everyone :-)`
`17:16.28`	`Cresl1n`	`sorry`
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`17:16.39`	`gtigene`	`Cres1n: thank you`
`17:16.40`	`sparky0001`	`quit`
`17:17.11`	`mut`	`GRRRR`
`17:17.15`	`mut`	`damn non paying bidders`
`17:17.20`	`Cresl1n`	`gtigene: seriously though, I think there might be a good market for book writing`
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`17:17.35`	`Cresl1n`	`gtigene: usually people don't mind paying for a good book about something`
`17:17.43`	`gtigene`	`harryvv: I understand Perl, basic Linux administration, dial plans, something about SIP, etc..., etc.`
`17:17.54`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: uhhhh... yah!!!!!!`
`17:18.01`	`Cresl1n`	`gtigene: just don't try writing open source software.... that's where you'll find the penny pinchers`
`17:18.04`	`Cresl1n`	`:-P`
`17:18.10`	`blitzrage`	`gtigene: you want to get involved with the Asterisk Documentation Project`
`17:18.11`	`gtigene`	`Cres1n: I started a book about Asterisk`
`17:18.19`	`blitzrage`	`~thebook`
`17:18.19`	`jbot`	`thebook is, like, Asterisk: The Future of Telephony by Jim Van Meggelen, Jared Smith & Leif Madsen, published by O'Reilly Media. It can be found at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk`
`17:18.25`	`blitzrage`	`gtigene: ^^^`
`17:19.03`	`Nuxi`	`Were's the book of dialplan poetry?`
`17:19.19`	`blitzrage`	`Nuxi: you mean a cookbook? We're working on it :)`
`17:19.30`	`gtigene`	`blitzrage: I am waiting for "thebook"`
`17:19.45`	`Nuxi`	`no, where all the dialplan line rhyme or something. lol`
`17:19.51`	`blitzrage`	`Nuxi: LOL`
`17:20.01`	`blitzrage`	`Nuxi: thats so crazy, it might just work :D`
`17:20.10`	`blitzrage`	`gtigene: expected date is Sept 13 for hard copy`
`17:20.35`	`Nuxi`	`We should have an obsuficated (spelling?) dialplan contest.`
`17:20.37`	`gtigene`	`I was the entire Asterisk project here for the past 10 months but it seems my programming skills aren't marketable since I only know Perl at the level of the llama book and not much MySql. But I can write pretty well.`
`17:20.40`	`mago2-cn`	`Manx: i'm configuring ooh323, e164 parameter is set to 100 and 101 in different cases, is this the prefix?`
`17:21.41`	`nolax`	`NoOp("IAX2/br@br-4", "CALLERIDNUM= 2222"). this is less than 10000 but still returns false`
`17:21.44`	`harryvv`	`blitzrage how would you rate that book?`
`17:21.54`	`blitzrage`	`gtigene: then please get involved with the docs project - if you're a good writer, we might be able to work something out in terms of writing for money too. However, you won't get rich off of writing books - you'll still need a day job`
`17:22.00`	`mut`	`$40?!`
`17:22.01`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: well, I'm biased - I wrote it :D`
`17:22.13`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: I give it 5 stars :D`
`17:22.19`	`harryvv`	`hahah`
`17:22.27`	`harryvv`	`wow you wrote it thats great`
`17:22.29`	`Cresl1n`	`man, I've been complaining a lot recently :-)`
`17:22.38`	`Nuxi`	`my first dialplan poem:`
`17:22.39`	`Nuxi`	`[default]`
`17:22.39`	`Nuxi`	`exten => _.,1,AGI(myfault)`
`17:22.39`	`harryvv`	`Im sure the $ will start to roll in :)`
`17:22.41`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: yes, and its really starting to piss me off!`
`17:22.42`	`gtigene`	`blitzrage: OK, how do I get involved with the docs project?`
`17:22.44`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: :D`
`17:22.46`	`JerJer`	`Cresl1n: good, keep it up`
`17:22.57`	`Cresl1n`	`sorry guys, just been feeling a little embittered against the general consensus`
`17:23.07`	`harryvv`	`blitzrage how many new people that did not know asterisk read it and said it was understandable?`
`17:23.08`	`gtigene`	`~docs`
`17:23.08`	`jbot`	`somebody said docs was Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk`
`17:23.16`	`blitzrage`	`gtigene: www.asteriskdocs.org - there is information about getting involved on the site. If you have an specific questions, please feel free to contact me anytime - www.leifmadsen.com for my contact info (email, IM, etc...)`
`17:23.30`	`gtigene`	`blitzrage: thank you`
`17:23.37`	`harryvv`	`so why the starfish?`
`17:23.39`	`harryvv`	`:)`
`17:23.42`	`blitzrage`	`gtigene: thank you! Hope to see some documentation! :D`
`17:23.49`	`mut`	`there are certified * consultant`
`17:23.50`	`mut`	`by whome`
`17:23.55`	`mut`	`whom`
`17:23.56`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: because they didn't have a picture of a moose :)`
`17:24.01`	`harryvv`	`I would have put the crab, as my wife can be one when working on asterisk :)`
`17:24.04`	`blitzrage`	`mut: www.astricon.net/training`
`17:24.08`	`Nuxi`	`most consultants are certifiable`
`17:24.16`	`mut`	`6`
`17:24.22`	`blitzrage`	`yeppers`
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`17:24.35`	`mut`	`good lord!`
`17:24.42`	`Cresl1n`	`JerJer: it's so funny, you would think that for getting free software, a little bit of money on hardware shouldn't be a big deal. Considering the price versus a similar switch, etc`
`17:24.42`	`Darwin35`	`grrr dtmf issues`
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`17:24.52`	`Darwin35`	`cant access voicemail`
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`17:25.01`	`blitzrage`	`Cresl1n: no kidding eh?`
`17:25.11`	`JerJer`	`some people simply cannot fathom the idea of open-source software`
`17:25.18`	`Cresl1n`	`yeah`
`17:25.28`	`Cresl1n`	`since the software is free, everything should be free`
`17:25.29`	`JerJer`	`i fought with my ex-employer turned ex-business partner over Asterisk for months`
`17:25.45`	`Nuxi`	`M$ loves open-source software, as long as it's BSD instead of GPL.`
`17:25.48`	`harryvv`	`blitzrage so you worked in older pbx offices? I was looking at the remains of our Air Traffic control center telco office. Lots of antiquated equipment left behind.`
`17:25.50`	`Cresl1n`	`JerJer: what was his beef?`
`17:25.56`	`JerJer`	`then they bought the Sysmaster VoIP PBX, which we proven is based on Asterisk and Digium hardware`
`17:25.58`	`harryvv`	`old channel banks`
`17:26.18`	`JerJer`	`so in the end they bought Asterisk for 10 times the cost of my salary/business agreement`
`17:26.21`	`Hmmhesays`	`there are two schools of thought on open-source, either people think its crap because its not closed, or they don't understand that open-source!=free`
`17:26.50`	`denon`	`Hmmhesays: or they feel its a work in progress, and they probably dont want to use it unless they dont mind spending huge amounts of time babysitting it ..`
`17:27.00`	`JerJer`	`Cresl1n: because some multi-billion dollar company didn't create asterisk, so how could it be any good?`
`17:27.08`	`Cresl1n`	`yeah, lol`
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`17:27.24`	`JerJer`	`even with undeniable proof Asterisk solved their problems, they simply would not adopt it`
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`17:27.37`	`Cresl1n`	`silly people`
`17:27.37`	`Nuxi`	`multi-billion like cisco? their code is really poor.`
`17:27.47`	`Nuxi`	`can't even implement SNMP correctly.`
`17:27.53`	`JerJer`	`needless to say the boss man was very pissed off when he found his beloved sysmaster solution was simply Asterisk`
`17:27.57`	`Cresl1n`	`it's all about consumer perception though`
`17:28.02`	`Cresl1n`	`lol :-)`
`17:28.06`	`Cresl1n`	`that's pretty funny`
`17:28.16`	`JerJer`	`I put it in his face every time I see him... "how is asterisk er sysmaster running for ya"`
`17:28.17`	`Hmmhesays`	`when consumers don't really know what they want`
`17:28.35`	`Cresl1n`	`yeah`
`17:28.35`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: I've done some work on Nortel systems for CIBC, but Jim is "the man" when it comes to Nortel equipment`
`17:28.36`	`Hmmhesays`	`it probably is running well for him`
`17:28.56`	`Hmmhesays`	`I want to mame the people that made those covad voip commericals`
`17:29.01`	`Hmmhesays`	`*commercials even`
`17:29.02`	`Cresl1n`	`anyways, on to happier things`
`17:29.03`	`Cresl1n`	`:-)`
`17:29.36`	`harryvv`	`I see`
`17:29.38`	`Cresl1n`	`so anyways....`
`17:30.01`	`Cresl1n`	`why don't we go shove q.921 into kernel space`
`17:30.03`	`Cresl1n`	`yeah :-)`
`17:30.07`	`Cresl1n`	`that's an idea`
`17:30.24`	`blitzrage`	`but is it a good one? :)`
`17:30.40`	`Cresl1n`	`blitzrage: we've talked a little about it`
`17:30.45`	`harryvv`	`blitzrage If I was in the telco bussiness I think the fact I would miss the "Hands on" repair of telelpony Since I am still a hands on person in anything involving technoligy. Its also a shame alot of is is going to be obsolete with voip.`
`17:31.10`	`denon`	`harryvv: you can still be a wire monkey..`
`17:31.15`	`denon`	`wireless solutions all suck`
`17:31.16`	`Cresl1n`	`maybe we should take this to asterisk-dev`
`17:31.16`	`denon`	`:)`
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`17:31.29`	`harryvv`	`wireless solutions all suck?`
`17:31.57`	`denon`	`802.11's a hack, range blows, interferance blows`
`17:32.10`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: obsolete because of voip? I don't really believe that. We'll still have traditional telephony for at least another 10 years - maybe more`
`17:32.15`	`JerJer`	`what does the kernel need to do q.921 for?`
`17:32.36`	`harryvv`	`another problem or solution depends how you see it, is its going to put alot of old world telephony techs in the unemployment lines because it is so fast to do changes in voip then make a trip to the telco office and make changes.`
`17:32.42`	`SkramX`	`anyuone who works for nufone around here? what are the rates for USA Termination?!s`
`17:33.01`	`harryvv`	`well, I never did included the time factor in it.`
`17:33.05`	`mut`	`i like 802.11`
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`17:33.34`	`yaaar`	`word`
`17:33.45`	`mut`	`has it's problems.. but everything else does as well`
`17:34.05`	`blitzrage`	`~seen pcadach`
`17:34.07`	`jbot`	`pcadach <~paul@www.east.telecom.kz> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 90d 3h 24m 39s ago, saying: 'JerJer: Please, check #4164. Also, check #4185 and #4194 - the ones is first part of split of dead3 from #3967.'.`
`17:34.33`	`mut`	`have some 900mhz proprietary stuff thats pretty cool`
`17:34.41`	`Cresl1n`	`long time`
`17:34.48`	`harryvv`	`now i need to resolve my all circuits are bussy problem with my dialplan. brb`
`17:34.49`	`mut`	`blasts through anything up to ~1.25miles`
`17:34.51`	`blitzrage`	`me love you long time`
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`17:36.42`	`Falle`	`Is there some way to disable asterisk's need for X libraries during compille? my server dont have any X librarys at all. Trying to keep the install slim.`
`17:37.02`	`SkramX`	`anyuone who works for nufone around here? what are the rates for USA Termination?!s`
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`17:38.02`	`JerJer`	`We can provide calls to US48 and Canada for 2.0 cents per minute, with no minimum commitments, expiration dates or hidden fees.`
`17:38.03`	`JakBeatZ`	`Hey, can anyone give me an idea of what I might be doing wrong with the MONITOR_EXEC MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS variables? I have MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS=&& /bin/rm /tmp/test but it doesn't seem to be executing that command. Do I have the wrong idea of what the MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS functionality is?`
`17:38.14`	`JerJer`	`as documented very well on the website`
`17:39.30`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: the Wiki was not helpful?`
`17:40.09`	`blitzrage`	`Falle: X libraries? I don't remember needing any of those...`
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`17:41.09`	`skram\|`	`jerjer: if i use the failto #..... do i get charged 4c a minute roundtrip?`
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`17:42.07`	`anthm`	`MONITOR_EXEC is the path to a script`
`17:42.17`	`anthm`	`it sends it 3 args`
`17:42.29`	`anthm`	`filea fileb newfile`
`17:42.44`	`anthm`	`MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS are extra args after the 3`
`17:42.53`	`anthm`	`that you have no choice about`
`17:44.10`	`JerJer`	`skram\|: you are charged 2 cents per minute for toll-free origination and then 2 cents per minute for the US48 termination`
`17:44.24`	`skram\|`	`ok`
`17:44.31`	`skram\|`	`and i see i can order new did's now`
`17:44.42`	`skram\|`	`but only toll free and michigan ones?`
`17:45.08`	`ManxPower`	`skram\|: if you want different DIDs you need to use a different carrier.`
`17:45.15`	`Falle`	`blitzrage: gtkconsole needs libXext`
`17:45.24`	`skram\|`	`Yea, thats what sucks about nufone`
`17:45.24`	`ChaotY2k`	`i have a entry exten => _9.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1}@sipgate,60) to dial out.... - could i take it that i dont have to dial the 9 ?`
`17:45.45`	`JakBeatZ`	`ManxPower: If I interperit the wiki properly (which is the same as show application monitor) and look at the initial example given when set verbose shows an unmodified monitor(wav\|file\|m) call, it looks as though MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS runs after MONITOR_EXEC, but I can't seem to get that working in production.`
`17:45.48`	`JerJer`	`skram\|: are you going to invest 20 million dollars for a nationwide DID roll out then?`
`17:46.00`	`skram\|`	`not today`
`17:46.07`	`ManxPower`	`skram\|: that's one of the few things that suck about NuFone.`
`17:46.23`	`JakBeatZ`	`I can't even seem to mirror what the defacto m option is supposed to do by populating the MONITOR_EXEC_ARGS with the rm -f <filename>[-in\|-out].wav`
`17:46.26`	`ManxPower`	`JerJer: Only 20 million? I would have thought it's much more than that.`
`17:47.05`	`JakBeatZ`	`anthm: it's a path to a script?`
`17:47.28`	`JakBeatZ`	`so I can make a script and call the args passed to it from the monitor cmd`
`17:47.31`	`JakBeatZ`	`?`
`17:47.36`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: start asterisk as "asterisk -cvvvddd" and watch what Asterisk runs when you don't specify any ARGS`
`17:47.50`	`greg_work`	`JerJer: what does it take to do that? i mean, if a provider offers DIDs in every major city, does that mean they need to get a T1 in every city?`
`17:48.02`	`anthm`	`yes`
`17:48.14`	`JerJer`	`greg_work: depends`
`17:48.22`	`JerJer`	`some lamers buy SIP services`
`17:48.25`	`JerJer`	`but we will not`
`17:49.09`	`JerJer`	`we have DIDs in quite a few other states, but we are not going to release them until we are absolutely ready`
`17:49.19`	`skram\|`	`ok`
`17:49.19`	`JerJer`	`no matter how many people whine`
`17:49.22`	`skram\|`	`can you tell me which ones`
`17:49.22`	`ManxPower`	`All the ITSPs that I know of that offer DIDs in most states use a large carrier like Level 3`
`17:49.30`	`skram\|`	`just so i know if i should give up hope or what`
`17:49.30`	`JerJer`	`skram\|: no`
`17:49.41`	`ManxPower`	`skram\|: give up hope.`
`17:49.48`	`skram\|`	`haha ok`
`17:50.08`	`Netgeeks`	`yes, skram\, give up hope, feel the power of the dark side`
`17:50.24`	`skram\|`	`fuck`
`17:50.26`	`skram\|`	`ok`
`17:50.28`	`JakBeatZ`	`ManxPower: The debug line is "monitor executing ( nice -n 19 soxmix "//tmp/test-in.wav" "//tmp/test-out.wav" "//tmp/test.wav" && rm -f "//tmp/test-"* ) &" The problem is the rm -f "//tmp/test-"* part of the command. All I need to do is change the location of the " to after the * and I'm fine :)`
`17:50.45`	`bkw_`	`OMG that bug still exists`
`17:50.49`	`bkw_`	`you using stable?`
`17:51.09`	`JakBeatZ`	`1.0.9 from Portage`
`17:51.15`	`ManxPower`	`bkw_: No, he's using 1.0.x`
`17:51.17`	`ManxPower`	`8-)`
`17:51.25`	`bkw_`	`that was fixed long ago`
`17:51.27`	`bkw_`	`in head`
`17:51.54`	`skram\|`	`8====D`
`17:52.02`	`JerJer`	`which is yet another reason stable should not be used`
`17:52.06`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: if it's a real bug you can post a small bounty and I'm sure someone will make a patch for you`
`17:52.26`	`greg_work`	`JerJer: why can the telco not just route DIDs to a PRI in another state?`
`17:52.32`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: not everyone runs CVS-HEAD regardless of what people will tell you.`
`17:52.32`	`JakBeatZ`	`ManxPower: Or I could just use HEAD`
`17:52.44`	`Cresl1n`	`HEAD rocks`
`17:52.45`	`Godsey`	`greg_work: FOCAL will`
`17:52.50`	`Cresl1n`	`I use it every day`
`17:52.51`	`Cresl1n`	`:-)`
`17:52.59`	`JakBeatZ`	`lol`
`17:53.01`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: nod Be sure to read the upgrade information included in CVS-HEAD`
`17:53.03`	`Godsey`	`focal routes chicago did's to our seattle pri`
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`17:53.08`	`Godsey`	`(lunch)`
`17:53.09`	`ManxPower`	`Cresl1n: try using 1.0.x`
`17:53.14`	`Cresl1n`	`nope`
`17:53.19`	`Cresl1n`	`won't even go there :-)`
`17:53.26`	`Cresl1n`	`it's too old`
`17:53.28`	`ManxPower`	`Cresl1n: Well get 1.2 out then.`
`17:53.30`	`JakBeatZ`	`Alrighty.. sigh heh`
`17:53.33`	`Cresl1n`	`lol, ok`
`17:53.36`	`JakBeatZ`	`Thx for the input, guys`
`17:53.36`	`Cresl1n`	`we'll work on that`
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`17:53.52`	`ManxPower`	`I'm planning on waiting for 1.2.3 before I put 1.2.x into production.`
`17:54.04`	`ManxPower`	`We all know how good Digium's release methods are.`
`17:54.14`	`Corydon-w`	`Sure would be nice if 4892 got committed...`
`17:54.22`	`Cresl1n`	`I'm going to use 1.2. ... hrm...`
`17:54.31`	`Cresl1n`	`hrm...`
`17:54.37`	`Cresl1n`	`-6?`
`17:54.41`	`Cresl1n`	`:-P`
`17:54.58`	`Inv_arp`	`tryin to send the call id from an env variable... ID=${ENV(CALLID)} ... still doesnt come up on my home phone, ID=5551212, works fine`
`17:55.07`	`Inv_arp`	`exported the CALLID var somethin else i need to do`
`17:55.32`	`harryvv`	`Is this problem on my end? I dont see it. -- Called voipjet/12065271961`
`17:55.32`	`harryvv`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:55.32`	`harryvv`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:55.32`	`harryvv`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:55.46`	`JerJer`	`what's the value of ${DIALSTATUS} ?`
`17:55.59`	`Corydon-w`	`Inv_arp: send it to what?`
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`17:57.07`	`Inv_arp`	`Corydon-w: just tryin to receive ID= from my bash env..`
`17:57.40`	`Corydon-w`	`Inv_arp: did you set it in the bash environment BEFORE you started Asterisk?`
`17:58.14`	`essobi`	`<PROTECTED>`
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`17:58.20`	`Inv_arp`	`Corydon-w: nope will restart`
`17:58.22`	`essobi`	`Doesn't appear the HangupCause has much to do with which leg canceled the call..`
`17:58.42`	`Corydon-w`	`Inv_arp: or are you expecting Asterisk to be able to violate process separation and look into the environment of other processes?`
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`18:01.38`	`harryvv`	`figured it out`
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`18:03.34`	`generalhan`	`i need some help with Queue messages, anyone got a second ?`
`18:03.41`	`mago2-cn`	`ManxPower: i installed ooh323 and are making calls fro ccm to asterisk through the channel, but calls go to default,s... i think i read something about this but can't find it again...`
`18:03.46`	`JerJer`	`generalhan: only if you ask a specific question`
`18:04.25`	`generalhan`	`i have a Playback(sound-file) cmd before the hold music starts for the queue, i need to know if i can repeat that at certain intervals, just like the announce-frequency = 45`
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`18:05.13`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`binxy?`
`18:05.18`	`SpaceBass`	`howdy`
`18:05.30`	`generalhan`	`so that it will say "sorry we're on the phone, we will be with you as soon as possible" then the hold music plays, then 60 seconds later it will repeat the message that everyone is busy`
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`18:07.08`	`Hmmhesays`	`cy logistics is not emailing me back`
`18:07.09`	`JerJer`	`generalhan: something new was added to cvs -head not that long ago`
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`18:07.14`	`harryvv`	`generalhan sounds like the plan. you need some kind of timmer to play that file over the moh file based on how many sip lines are in use.`
`18:08.36`	`generalhan`	`do you know what the cmd would be to set that timer up ?`
`18:08.51`	`mago2-cn`	`besides defining ccm as a h323 peer seems that i have to define each phone as a friend, is that right?`
`18:10.23`	`harryvv`	`generalhan is this for a company?`
`18:10.43`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`generalhan, it was just added, look at the sample queue.conf from current head`
`18:10.44`	`generalhan`	`ummm`
`18:11.04`	`generalhan`	`current head ?`
`18:11.28`	`generalhan`	`i appologize for my ignorance, im am still VERY new to this whole thing`
`18:11.55`	`JerJer`	`cvs co asterisk`
`18:12.13`	`harryvv`	`generalhan is a long path to understanding it.`
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`18:12.57`	`harryvv`	`anyone here have voipjet and know if there having problems ? getting all circuits are bussy.`
`18:12.59`	`blitzrage`	`export CVSROOT=:pserver:anoncvs:anoncvs@cvs.digium.com:/usr/cvsroot ; cvs co asterisk`
`18:14.07`	`harryvv`	`yea, voipjet has a email for fastservice..send my email to them a week ago.`
`18:14.08`	`_DAW`	`hello`
`18:14.37`	`mago2-cn`	`common guys, please help. i'm receiving a h323 call from a callmanager, but it gets sent to default context. i defined as user the phone placing the call with its context.`
`18:15.00`	`Hmmhesays`	`using ooh323?`
`18:15.05`	`mago2-cn`	`yes`
`18:15.16`	`blitzrage`	`~getwhatyoupayfor`
`18:15.21`	`Hmmhesays`	`isn't it set up like chan_h323 where you have to put a digit pattern in h323.conf with a context?`
`18:15.22`	`harryvv`	`hehe`
`18:15.25`	`blitzrage`	`:)`
`18:15.36`	`harryvv`	`blitzrage what do you recomend for a did/voip carrier for vancouver`
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`18:15.49`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: what area code?`
`18:15.52`	`harryvv`	`604`
`18:15.56`	`Hmmhesays`	`or maybe that was chan_oh323`
`18:16.08`	`generalhan`	`Jer Jer: that cmd didnt work for me, im using FC4 does that make a difference ?`
`18:16.31`	`harryvv`	`its possible that voipjet does not serve the washington state area.`
`18:16.41`	`Hmmhesays`	`probably don't have cvs installed`
`18:17.02`	`blitzrage`	`harryvv: mixnetworks.com has DID/VoIP services for Vancouver in 604-484 (disclaimer, I do work for mixnetworks.com)`
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`18:17.29`	`skram\|`	`<skram\|> I wrote a callback script.. if you all want to use it you can;`
`18:17.29`	`skram\|`	`<skram\|> the user goes and enters their phone number online, and it calls them back adn connects them with whatever extension/channel/priority you/they specify.`
`18:17.29`	`skram\|`	`<skram\|> pretty cool`
`18:17.29`	`skram\|`	`<skram\|> email asterisk@mark-s.net if you are interested in it.`
`18:17.52`	`Hmmhesays`	`haven't we all?`
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`18:18.24`	`Hmmhesays`	`there are so many click to call scripts floating around the intarweb, you might as well write your own`
`18:18.32`	`Hmmhesays`	`add to the masses`
`18:18.39`	`blitzrage`	`might as well duplicate work :)`
`18:18.47`	`generalhan`	`it gives me a "use the '-d' option or set CVSROOT environment variable"`
`18:18.48`	`skram\|`	`this one is actually easy to install`
`18:18.51`	`skram\|`	`no ago shit`
`18:18.53`	`skram\|`	`*agi`
`18:19.08`	`Hmmhesays`	`i wrote one in about 10 lines of php while I was sitting at cluecon`
`18:19.14`	`JerJer`	`cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.digium.com:/usr/cvsroot login`
`18:19.14`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: where are you based out of? http://mixnetworks.com/ is based in Florida, and they offer service in Canada.`
`18:19.15`	`Hmmhesays`	`so this chick could page me`
`18:19.17`	`JerJer`	`anoncvs`
`18:19.26`	`JerJer`	`cvs -d:pserver:anoncvs@cvs.digium.com:/usr/cvsroot co asterisk`
`18:19.29`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: I'm in Toronto - I do work remotely`
`18:19.34`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: Ah.`
`18:19.36`	`generalhan`	`Jer Jer: thanx`
`18:19.38`	`JerJer`	`generalhan: all of this is very well documented on asterisk.org`
`18:19.41`	`ManxPower`	`I thought OEJ hired you 8-)`
`18:19.46`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: he did :)`
`18:19.57`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: well, not formally yet - I work for several companies`
`18:20.08`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: so you are a consulting whore?`
`18:20.10`	`JerJer`	`ie a slut`
`18:20.11`	`blitzrage`	`yet being the hoped / key word :)`
`18:20.15`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: I am!`
`18:20.17`	`ManxPower`	`JerJer: Um, sluts do it for free.`
`18:20.20`	`blitzrage`	`JerJer: yep - I'm an uber-slut`
`18:20.30`	`JerJer`	`word`
`18:20.31`	`blitzrage`	`that kinda fits then... :)`
`18:20.37`	`skram\|`	`blitzrage will mixnetworks give out the iax/sip details for free?`
`18:20.45`	`blitzrage`	`skram\|: what do you mean?`
`18:20.52`	`JerJer`	`then there are fussy sluts`
`18:20.59`	`skram\|`	`so i can use the 21.99 unlim plan with my ast box`
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`18:21.07`	`mago2-cn`	`Hmmhesays: i've set up the context and the number i'm calling has its pattern...`
`18:21.11`	`blitzrage`	`skram\|: yep - I do`
`18:21.19`	`skram\|`	`you own it or just work thhere`
`18:21.21`	`skram\|`	`pm me`
`18:21.22`	`mago2-cn`	`Username Accountcode Context Formats`
`18:21.22`	`mago2-cn`	`customer0001ext ast_h323 dialplancustome 0x104 (ulaw\|g729)`
`18:21.26`	`blitzrage`	`skram\|: I just work there`
`18:21.33`	`blitzrage`	`skram\|: I'm the Asterisk admin`
`18:21.43`	`mago2-cn`	`the username and context get truncated, i hope because of display only...`
`18:21.43`	`Hmmhesays`	`where did you set that at?`
`18:21.50`	`mago2-cn`	`h323.conf`
`18:22.15`	`mago2-cn`	`that was output of h323 show users`
`18:22.16`	`Hmmhesays`	`show me`
`18:22.24`	`Hmmhesays`	`but, don't flood the channel`
`18:22.30`	`Hmmhesays`	`pm it or pastebin`
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`18:22.47`	`mago2-cn`	`how do i pastebin?`
`18:22.51`	`Hmmhesays`	`www.pastebin.ca`
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`18:23.10`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: what areas do they offer DIDs in?`
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`18:23.20`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: US48 and major Canadian centre's`
`18:24.46`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: URL to a list of them?`
`18:24.58`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: sorry, I don't have one - I just have an Excel sheet on my computer`
`18:24.59`	`generalhan`	`Jer Jer: so i have all those neat files ! LOL ! which file has the sample for that timer for the playback cmd ?`
`18:25.19`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: thats one of the things I need to build into the website - an area code request form or something`
`18:26.12`	`blitzrage`	`how many VoIP providers provide free trials?`
`18:26.20`	`blitzrage`	`out of curiosity`
`18:26.47`	`Hmmhesays`	`i can think of two off the top of my head`
`18:26.47`	`ManxPower`	`blitzrage: I hope none.`
`18:27.00`	`Hmmhesays`	`for terminating voip calls`
`18:27.04`	`blitzrage`	`Hmmhesays: oh yah?`
`18:27.08`	`blitzrage`	`interesting`
`18:27.16`	`blitzrage`	`ManxPower: I just figured no one did it :)`
`18:27.18`	`ManxPower`	`phone spammers must love them`
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`18:27.25`	`blitzrage`	`just seems like a bad idea`
`18:27.40`	`Hmmhesays`	`depends on your definition of a trial though, gphone trials are supervised`
`18:27.56`	`Hmmhesays`	`and voipjet only gives you a $0.25 account`
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`18:28.23`	`blitzrage`	`maybe a free trial after you sign up with a CC with automatic billing after you use your $0.25 or after the first month or whatever`
`18:28.37`	`Hmmhesays`	`voipjets trial is no strings attached`
`18:28.46`	`blitzrage`	`thats cool`
`18:28.50`	`blitzrage`	`free spam! :)`
`18:28.58`	`Hmmhesays`	`13 minutes worth`
`18:29.06`	`blitzrage`	`that's like 26 spam calls! :)`
`18:29.26`	`blitzrage`	`52 if I make them 15 seconds long`
`18:29.32`	`Hmmhesays`	`gphone only really deals international, and they'll let you test the region you'll most often be calling`
`18:30.05`	`blitzrage`	`welp, gotta go catch a traing - latah y'all!`
`18:30.10`	`Hmmhesays`	`later`
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`18:32.16`	`mago2-cn`	`Hmmhesays: http://pastebin.ca/19633`
`18:32.34`	`generalhan`	`why cant i find any info on how to get the timer to work on this playback cmd ?`
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`18:33.16`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: "show application playback" was not useful?`
`18:33.29`	`Hmmhesays`	`something is not right about that mago2-cn`
`18:34.04`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: where ?`
`18:34.11`	`generalhan`	`at asterisk.org ?`
`18:34.12`	`mago2-cn`	`i'm sure about that, did you see what's wrong?`
`18:34.30`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: in the Asterisk CLI`
`18:34.44`	`generalhan`	`ohh`
`18:34.45`	`generalhan`	`lol`
`18:34.47`	`generalhan`	`lemme try that`
`18:34.48`	`Hmmhesays`	`i'll tell you as soon as I get the orginal h323.conf from ooh323`
`18:34.48`	`generalhan`	`thanks`
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`18:35.22`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: or the Wiki`
`18:35.50`	`generalhan`	`yea i have 2 options, skip and noanswer`
`18:36.02`	`generalhan`	`im looking for more of a repeat or timer option`
`18:36.19`	`mago2-cn`	`let me post it for you`
`18:36.28`	`generalhan`	`its so simple with the announce-frequency = 60 command, why cant i just do it that way? lol`
`18:37.21`	`ManxPower`	`generalhan: Nothing I told you applies to Queues`
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`18:39.34`	`_DAW`	`channel split`
`18:39.34`	`mut`	`my internet just went down`
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`18:39.34`	`mut`	`and there was a netsplit`
`18:39.34`	`mut`	`like my DS3 died`
`18:39.34`	`mut`	`then came back`
`18:39.34`	`mago2-cn`	`Hmmhesays: http://pastebin.ca/19634`
`18:39.34`	`mut`	`coincidence?`
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`18:39.34`	`mut`	`coincidence?`
`18:39.34`	`skram\|`	`wow.`
`18:39.34`	`skram\|`	`netsplit.`
`18:39.53`	`generalhan`	`ManxPower: im sorry if i was unclear, i need to add a playback cmd for a Queue to play a certain message while the caller waits on hold`
`18:39.53`	`generalhan`	`and i need it to repeat itself every 1-2 minutes`
`18:39.53`	`mkrufky`	`thats about the biggest netsplit i've seen in a while`
`18:40.05`	`mut`	`has that been happnin much the past few days?`
`18:40.05`	`mkrufky`	`YES`
`18:40.05`	`mut`	`anyone know?`
`18:40.05`	`mut`	`i havn't paid attention`
`18:40.19`	`skram\|`	`generalhan: just make it in your music on hold`
`18:40.35`	`generalhan`	`hmmm`
`18:40.54`	`mut`	`ah`
`18:40.56`	`mut`	`code..`
`18:40.57`	`mut`	`hmm`
`18:41.21`	`greg_work`	`skram\|: only problem with that is there's the possiblity of a caller coming in in the middle of a message`
`18:41.34`	`generalhan`	`then i have to use a different music file for the rest of the hold music so that it doesnt repeat that when i just put a caller on hold`
`18:41.38`	`greg_work`	`(which isn't a big deal, really.. )`
`18:41.56`	`Hmmhesays`	`mago2-cn I would try just setting the type, context and ip`
`18:42.19`	`generalhan`	`well i have it right now saying this message right before the music starts to play, but i was told that there is a timer feature that will allow me to make it play every so often, thats really what i want to do`
`18:42.25`	`Hmmhesays`	`kind of a shot in the dark, but worth a try`
`18:43.13`	`mut`	`wtf`
`18:43.18`	`mut`	`fscking cisco routers!`
`18:43.34`	`Hmmhesays`	`aye`
`18:43.58`	`mut`	`wth isn't this deleting`
`18:43.59`	`mut`	`Sag7206A(config)#no ip nat inside source static 172.18.96.57 65.111.201.`
`18:43.59`	`mut`	`Static entry in use, do you want to delete child entries? [no]: yes`
`18:43.59`	`mut`	`%: Error: static entry still in use, cannot remove`
`18:44.51`	`mago2-cn`	`Hmmhesays, for the phone, a 7920, should i set type=friend or user?`
`18:45.08`	`mago2-cn`	`friend requires ip...`
`18:45.20`	`Hmmhesays`	`h323 from a 7920?`
`18:45.29`	`mago2-cn`	`through ccm`
`18:45.48`	`Hmmhesays`	`call managers are sccp aren't they?`
`18:46.05`	`mago2-cn`	`i've used it with other h.323 gws.`
`18:46.32`	`Hmmhesays`	`well the easiest way to get around this dilema is set the default context in h323.conf`
`18:46.36`	`mago2-cn`	`and the call is getting through, as seen on debug...`
`18:46.43`	`harryvv`	`mut, what cisco router are you using`
`18:47.03`	`mut`	`this is a 7206`
`18:47.09`	`harryvv`	`i see`
`18:47.10`	`mago2-cn`	`h323 contexts are different from the others, like voicemail contexts?`
`18:47.14`	`harryvv`	`whats the problem`
`18:47.27`	`mut`	`it's bein a lil bitch`
`18:47.36`	`mut`	`i can't delete my nat map`
`18:47.43`	`Hmmhesays`	`h323 contexts refer to the extensions.conf, just like sip contexts and iax contexts`
`18:48.00`	`mago2-cn`	`Hmmhesays, they are the same as the rest of the channels, right?`
`18:48.18`	`Hmmhesays`	`like I just said`
`18:48.20`	`Hmmhesays`	`h323 contexts refer to the extensions.conf, just like sip contexts and iax contexts`
`18:48.24`	`mago2-cn`	`ok...`
`18:48.36`	`Hmmhesays`	`if you want a quick easy fix, set your default context in h323.conf`
`18:48.45`	`mago2-cn`	`ok... let me try it`
`18:51.29`	`harryvv`	`mut dont know what to say on that..my training is on 2600`
`18:52.02`	`harryvv`	`mut, what traffic is going though the router`
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`18:54.54`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`any idea where I can find upany fairly-recent bristuff patch for HEAD?`
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`18:55.51`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`The latest is from 30-5, whereas the latest for stable is from 8-8`
`18:56.38`	`nikko`	`hey JerJer - is nufone having problems? none of my servers will register with nufone`
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`18:59.13`	`mut`	`all traffic from the isp`
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`19:00.04`	`generalhan`	`can some one please help me figure out this timer CMD for the playback code ?? anyone !`
`19:01.07`	`generalhan`	`i need to replay a recorded message (while the caller is in the queue) every 2 minutes. does anyone know how to get this accomplished ?`
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`19:01.50`	`mut`	`there`
`19:01.52`	`mut`	`all better`
`19:02.04`	`mago2-cn`	`Hmmhesays: it's been fixed. i was configuring a different user than the one the call manager was sending out`
`19:02.08`	`mut`	`clear the nat trans`
`19:02.12`	`mut`	`and blammo`
`19:02.16`	`_DAW`	`generalhan - couldnt you use moh?`
`19:02.52`	`generalhan`	`yeah, but i dont wnat to re-record the moh music file to have my saying in there, then there is a possibility that some one could come in right as it was saying it`
`19:03.06`	`_DAW`	`I see`
`19:03.27`	`generalhan`	`this is really pissing me off. its just a simple request and i cant figure it out at all`
`19:04.19`	`mago2-cn`	`now the problem seems to be nat, only heard one party, the one inside nat... any suggestion?`
`19:04.37`	`mut`	`hmm`
`19:05.07`	`mut`	`has anyone run into a ds3 problem where the link dies at random?`
`19:05.17`	`mut`	`had am adtran t3su on each end`
`19:05.33`	`mut`	`the snmp traps show all 4 t1's frame slip then the ds3 dies`
`19:05.39`	`mut`	`then it all comes back up`
`19:06.05`	`mut`	`verizon can't find anything wrong, telenet can't find anything wrong, adtran can't find anything wrong`
`19:06.35`	`harryvv`	`sounds like a problem. time to put a logic analyer on the line :)`
`19:06.56`	`harryvv`	`mut, a new problem?`
`19:06.57`	`mago2-cn`	`anyone knows what this message means: Aug 9 15:02:13 WARNING[5317]: chan_h323.c:914 h323_indicate: Don't know how to indicate condition -1 on ooh323c_3`
`19:07.02`	`mut`	`ya`
`19:07.13`	`mut`	`started about 5 or so days ago`
`19:07.20`	`_DAW`	`mut - have verizon done any intrusive testing on the line?`
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`19:07.24`	`mut`	`ya, the verizon guy had some pretty equipment showing waves & whatnot`
`19:07.25`	`hardwire`	`jesus christ`
`19:07.35`	`hardwire`	`my boss just complained because we have to press "Send" in order to make a call`
`19:07.42`	`harryvv`	`mut, how often does this problem occure?`
`19:07.46`	`mut`	`random`
`19:07.51`	`Beirdo`	`hardwire: now that IS lame`
`19:07.55`	`mut`	`no pattern/time at all`
`19:08.04`	`hardwire`	`Beirdo: "But we are all lazy here"`
`19:08.06`	`mut`	`last happened 11:40 last night`
`19:08.15`	`hardwire`	`he didn't like it when I said "Yeh.. you guys really are"`
`19:08.22`	`Beirdo`	`hehe`
`19:08.23`	`mut`	`and once this mornin sometime i think`
`19:08.30`	`hardwire`	`first he complains about 4 digit extensions`
`19:08.30`	`Beirdo`	`being agreeable at the wrong time :)`
`19:08.32`	`hardwire`	`having to learn the DID's`
`19:08.35`	`hardwire`	`all this shit`
`19:08.36`	`harryvv`	`hardwire, better ways to express your self. If your boss does not like it then tell him to ditch his cell phone.`
`19:08.42`	`hardwire`	`what a lazy asshole`
`19:09.07`	`Beirdo`	`tell him to move somewhere warmer and stop bitching :)`
`19:09.09`	`harryvv`	`hardwire, what phone?`
`19:09.10`	`hardwire`	`harryvv: heh.. he said "ugh.. thats too much like a cell phone"`
`19:09.10`	`mut`	`i think we're going to try to get the verizon guy to come in at 3 in the mornin sometime and see what he can do`
`19:09.13`	`hardwire`	`he has a Motorola Razor`
`19:09.19`	`hardwire`	`he is a trendy little asshole`
`19:09.22`	`hardwire`	`so wtf is he complaining about`
`19:09.27`	`hardwire`	`lazy`
`19:09.28`	`hardwire`	`lazy`
`19:09.40`	`hardwire`	`"I can make it Dial for you in 3-5 seconds.. but you guys will hate that"`
`19:09.43`	`hardwire`	`noooo! we will love it`
`19:09.44`	`hardwire`	`hah`
`19:09.47`	`hardwire`	`you say that now`
`19:09.59`	`harryvv`	`hardwire, sounds like that attorney on cellphone the movie. anyone see that?`
`19:10.00`	`hardwire`	`that send button makes a lot of sense to you chubby fingered bastards..`
`19:10.09`	`Beirdo`	`hehe`
`19:10.12`	`hardwire`	`callphone or cellular?`
`19:10.29`	`Beirdo`	`my fingers like the send button`
`19:10.38`	`harryvv`	`sorry cellular`
`19:10.47`	`harryvv`	`yea, good movie flick.`
`19:10.48`	`hardwire`	`never seen it`
`19:10.51`	`hardwire`	`wanting too`
`19:10.55`	`harryvv`	`hardwire, go see it.`
`19:10.56`	`hardwire`	`looking forward to the transporter 2`
`19:11.04`	`hardwire`	`harryvv: its in my netflix queue`
`19:11.13`	`harryvv`	`the main actor in cellular is the main guy from transporter`
`19:11.23`	`hardwire`	`harryvv: thats why I made the relation :)`
`19:11.44`	`hardwire`	`I kinda have a mancrush on the guy`
`19:11.51`	`hardwire`	`my g/f hates it`
`19:11.52`	`harryvv`	`its kinda interesting for such a violent movie there was no profanity.`
`19:11.59`	`hardwire`	`sean Mean Machine?`
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`19:12.32`	`devel`	`ha ha ha. a mancrush. that's good stuff.`
`19:12.35`	`harryvv`	`transporter was pretty good... kinda chick kinda like bond but the music makes it sound funny.`
`19:13.25`	`harryvv`	`back feels like ice`
`19:13.41`	`harryvv`	`no have not seen it`
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`19:15.12`	`Hmmhesays`	`nice troubleshooting mago2-cn`
`19:15.37`	`hardwire`	`sipsak rules`
`19:15.40`	`hardwire`	`IMHO`
`19:15.47`	`hardwire`	`and thats not I'm a Homo either.`
`19:15.53`	`focks`	`why would ztmonitor show tx at 14844 although that trunk is not in use?`
`19:17.38`	`Uther_P`	`hardwire: of course not... I would have guessed "in my homosexual orifaces" :D`
`19:17.59`	`mut`	`man my face itches`
`19:17.59`	`hardwire`	`heh`
`19:18.06`	`mut`	`time to shave`
`19:18.09`	`hardwire`	`mut: harryvv: go see doctors.`
`19:18.12`	`Uther_P`	`haha`
`19:18.15`	`Godsey`	`might anyone be able to look at my backtrace and give me any pointers as to what may be causing asterisk to exit?`
`19:18.24`	`hardwire`	`Godsey: bad config most likely :)`
`19:18.26`	`Godsey`	`http://pastebin.ca/19636 I apreciate help emensly :)`
`19:18.29`	`Uther_P`	`damn, those fit together perfectly`
`19:18.34`	`mut`	`doctors`
`19:18.35`	`mut`	`hah!`
`19:18.37`	`mut`	`never`
`19:18.44`	`mut`	`i been to the doctor twice in my life`
`19:18.50`	`Superman`	`if you see a doctor`
`19:18.52`	`hardwire`	`I go more often now`
`19:18.55`	`Superman`	`kick him in the head`
`19:18.58`	`Uther_P`	`damn... what else itches`
`19:19.00`	`Godsey`	`hardwire: well it's restarting at seemingly random intervals w/ signal 11`
`19:19.00`	`Superman`	`and ask him how he feels`
`19:19.03`	`harryvv`	`doctors?`
`19:19.04`	`mut`	`once and birth and once when i had some horrible throat infection`
`19:19.05`	`harryvv`	`:)`
`19:19.06`	`Beirdo`	`mut: shaving is overrated`
`19:19.08`	`hardwire`	`Godsey: insane`
`19:19.27`	`mut`	`Beirdo: shrug .. it gets me pussy`
`19:19.30`	`Godsey`	`but all the backtraces show the last thing as a iax trunk call`
`19:19.34`	`mut`	`:P`
`19:19.48`	`Godsey`	`at least I think it does, I don't really know what I'm looking at w/ gdb`
`19:19.49`	`Uther_P`	`refer to the first time he saw a doctor :P`
`19:19.51`	`Beirdo`	`mut: heh. I doubt that's really what does it, dude.`
`19:20.05`	`tzanger`	`Beirdo: nah shaving isn't bad`
`19:20.08`	`mut`	`well.. the gun and mask help too`
`19:20.11`	`mut`	`but still`
`19:20.13`	`tzanger`	`I did however cut my ear today... up near the top (don't ask)`
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`19:20.16`	`mut`	`doesn't itch as much under the mask`
`19:20.17`	`Beirdo`	`shaving's a waste of effort :)`
`19:20.23`	`tzanger`	`fucker bled for 45 minutes beofre I finally said fuck it and got a bandaid`
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`19:20.28`	`RCAM`	`Hello.`
`19:20.34`	`tzanger`	`of course the only bandaid small enough was one of my daughter's mousey princess ones`
`19:20.35`	`Uther_P`	`tzanger: cmon, if you didn't want us to ask, you wouldn't have said anything ;)`
`19:20.41`	`Godsey`	`tzanger: you don't have a bleed stick?`
`19:20.41`	`tzanger`	`so I'm getting kind of a ribbing at work today`
`19:20.50`	`Beirdo`	`I ain't gonna shave if I can help it. stopped at 17, doubt I'll start ever again`
`19:20.53`	`tzanger`	`Godsey: this I don't think will heal with that, but I've never used one before`
`19:21.07`	`Katty`	`hi.`
`19:21.08`	`brettnem`	`they hurt like hell`
`19:21.10`	`Godsey`	`Beirdo: I shave monthly w/ clippers`
`19:21.13`	`mut`	`how old are ya now`
`19:21.13`	`Uther_P`	`Beirdo: I guess that explains your name`
`19:21.22`	`tzanger`	`so it's not beirdo it's beardo :-)`
`19:21.23`	`Beirdo`	`Godsey: I hear ya, dude. trim only.`
`19:21.30`	`supaigtr`	`Hello.`
`19:21.41`	`Godsey`	`I cut it down to about 1/8th inch`
`19:21.45`	`Beirdo`	`tzanger: hence the name`
`19:21.45`	`Godsey`	`using the smallest guard`
`19:22.00`	`Beirdo`	`I go to a #4 on the trimmer`
`19:22.12`	`Godsey`	`I'd really like to cut it shorter, but then my wife bitches that it's prickly`
`19:22.15`	`Beirdo`	`and then take the guard off for me head`
`19:22.20`	`tzanger`	`I used to shave my head with a WAHL #1 blade`
`19:22.30`	`mut`	`oh i see`
`19:22.34`	`mut`	`you're bald.. i get it`
`19:22.37`	`brettnem`	`when did this become a shaving expo?`
`19:22.38`	`Katty`	`DarthClue: :>`
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`19:22.43`	`Godsey`	`I dare not shave my head, I'm fat and it would look awful :)`
`19:22.47`	`Godsey`	`maybe if I were ripped :)`
`19:22.48`	`Beirdo`	`I'm self-imposed bald`
`19:22.48`	`Beirdo`	`:)`
`19:22.55`	`mut`	`heh`
`19:23.00`	`Beirdo`	`and I ain't small...`
`19:23.00`	`mut`	`probly not anymore :P`
`19:23.07`	`RCAM`	`Which of these distros would be easiest to setup Asterisk on, Red Hat 9, Fedora Core4, Debian 3.1, Suse 9.3?`
`19:23.13`	`Beirdo`	`6'1", just under 300lbs`
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`19:23.17`	`zoa`	`yoyo`
`19:23.20`	`RCAM`	`Hello.`
`19:23.22`	`brettnem`	`RCAM, which one are you the best at?`
`19:23.24`	`Godsey`	`I'm 6'4 430ish`
`19:23.24`	`brettnem`	`hey there zoa`
`19:23.41`	`Godsey`	`I started losing weight just over a year ago when I hit 550`
`19:23.43`	`Beirdo`	`oh wow, Godsey. that must be a nuisance at times`
`19:23.46`	`RCAM`	`brettnem I know Debian the best... But last time I tried to setup asterisk on Debian things did not turn out so hot.`
`19:24.03`	`Beirdo`	`I hit 360 and decided enough was enough. 4 months later, below 300`
`19:24.05`	`Godsey`	`Beirdo: ya, it's no fun :)`
`19:24.06`	`brettnem`	`RCAM: asterisk on debian works fine. you shouldn't have a problem.`
`19:24.14`	`Godsey`	`my goal is 240`
`19:24.18`	`RCAM`	`brettnem I had some issues compiling.`
`19:24.20`	`Beirdo`	`mine is 220 :)`
`19:24.23`	`brettnem`	`I hit 138 the other day and decided I needed to start watching what I'm eating`
`19:24.25`	`supaigtr`	`Anyone had pops and crackle after installed a ecan card?`
`19:24.25`	`RCAM`	`I guess I will just go with Debian, what the hell.`
`19:24.35`	`Beirdo`	`brettnem: 138?!`
`19:24.39`	`Beirdo`	`wow`
`19:24.40`	`Godsey`	`if I hit 240 and can still bench 400, I'm set :)`
`19:24.40`	`brettnem`	`RCAM: then you are missing a dependency.. make sure you have them all`
`19:24.41`	`devel`	`RCAM, we run on debian unstable with no issues`
`19:25.00`	`Uther_P`	`you guys are all backwards... the only hair I have is on my head.... 2.5 feet of it`
`19:25.02`	`brettnem`	`yeah, we'll I'm 2'8" so I'm pretty round`
`19:25.18`	`Beirdo`	`Uther_P: I did that before. had hair to the waist almost`
`19:25.20`	`Beirdo`	`and a beard`
`19:25.21`	`Beirdo`	`:)`
`19:25.27`	`mut`	`fscking ds3's and pri's and AHHHHHHHH`
`19:25.28`	`Uther_P`	`mine reaches my ass`
`19:25.34`	`mut`	`i hate phones right now!`
`19:25.35`	`RCAM`	`Thanks guys!`
`19:25.39`	`brettnem`	`ugh, I had long hair once.. didn't work for the ladys..`
`19:25.48`	`file[laptop]`	`meeeeeeep`
`19:26.00`	`Uther_P`	`Beirdo: and this is different with no hair... how?`
`19:26.03`	`Godsey`	`Beirdo: and now you look like a UFC champ? :)`
`19:26.06`	`Beirdo`	`hehe`
`19:26.11`	`mago2-cn`	`any way to see rtp activity, ports used in a ooh323 call?`
`19:26.15`	`ryansc`	`hey guys does anyone have a good recommendation for a phone that has working call indicator/function lights handle 4 lines, feature toggling etc?`
`19:26.17`	`DarthClue`	`file[laptop]: i don't look intimidating in person do i?`
`19:26.23`	`Beirdo`	`now I look more like a really washed-up ex-marine or something`
`19:26.40`	`Uther_P`	`get a leather jacket and a harley and go for the full effect`
`19:26.40`	`brettnem`	`wow.. my boss fried a sipura over the weekend.. lightning struck nearby and it's totally MELTED`
`19:26.47`	`mago2-cn`	`anyone knows a solution for nat in h.323 other than port forwarding?`
`19:26.57`	`Beirdo`	`Uther_P: I had the sunglasses :)`
`19:26.58`	`zoa`	`iax2`
`19:26.59`	`mut`	`this thing better not die again`
`19:27.20`	`zoa`	`or maybe h323 over woomera`
`19:27.30`	`Beirdo`	`but I'll get down to a "proper" weight given time`
`19:27.31`	`mut`	`or else i'm switching everything over to microwave radios!`
`19:27.32`	`Ariel_`	`mago2-cn, h323 and nat are not very easy to work with. If you need to use h.323 don't use nat.`
`19:27.33`	`brettnem`	`zoa, how is ooh323?`
`19:27.39`	`mut`	`customers will have to call us on their ham radios`
`19:27.50`	`Uther_P`	`this blows.... if I set a user's shell to /sbin/nologin, it won't let me ftp with the account either`
`19:27.52`	`Uther_P`	`:/`
`19:28.08`	`jontow`	`uther_p; add '/sbin/ftponly' to /etc/shells .. then: cp /sbin/nologin /sbin/ftponly`
`19:28.10`	`mago2-cn`	`Ariel_: would you say the same for sccp and`
`19:28.11`	`mut`	`why must you use h323`
`19:28.14`	`mago2-cn`	`NAT?`
`19:28.17`	`jontow`	`problem solved; set the user's shell to /sbin/ftponly`
`19:28.25`	`jontow`	`get creative ;)`
`19:28.48`	`mago2-cn`	`i'm passing calls from a callmanager to asterisk through a h.323 channel. that is working.`
`19:28.51`	`Ariel_`	`mago2-cn, yes I have know people that get them working but it's very hard and will break for the smallest of things.`
`19:29.18`	`brettnem`	`really. if you are trying to connect those two devices, just do the port forward.. heh`
`19:29.26`	`mut`	`why cripple call manager by using asterisk?`
`19:29.46`	`Uther_P`	`jontow: na, that didn't work... I think it has to do with nologin returning 1 instead of 0`
`19:30.28`	`mago2-cn`	`i'm talking of a 3.3 call manger. by using asterisk i'm enableing the cm to send calls to iax2, sip, etc...`
`19:31.25`	`Uther_P`	`jontow: err, nevermind, heh, forgot to add it to shells`
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`19:32.19`	`hardwire`	`anybody related the sip account codes to DIDs?`
`19:33.50`	`ManxPower`	`mandevill diagram v2`
`19:33.52`	`ManxPower`	`damn it`
`19:35.41`	`jontow`	`uther; do NOT add nologin to /etc/shells btw.. it truly defeats its purpose.`
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`19:40.15`	`jsaunders`	`How do I disable mgcp (and other unwanted protos) in *?`
`19:40.45`	`Ariel_`	`jsaunders, noload`
`19:40.54`	`brettnem`	`jsaunders: in modules.conf`
`19:41.17`	`Superman`	`Aug 9 12:47:26 WARNING[10626]: db.c:47 dbinit: Unable to open Asterisk database`
`19:41.18`	`jsaunders`	`Much obliged. :)`
`19:41.23`	`Superman`	`What does that mean ?`
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`19:41.31`	`Superman`	`odbc.conf somewhere ?`
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`19:41.37`	`Superman`	`running it on Gentoo`
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`19:43.55`	`netnameus`	`how can i determine which ver of asterisk i'm running?`
`19:44.07`	`DarthClue`	`show version at the cli`
`19:44.17`	`netnameus`	`ty`
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`19:45.08`	`devel`	`Superman, that may be the /var/lib/asterisk/astdb file`
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`19:49.01`	`Superman`	`Yeah man, its a blank file`
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`19:49.43`	`devel`	`that certainly shouldn't be. fs perm problems?`
`19:49.55`	`Superman`	`checking`
`19:50.23`	`Superman`	`wholy shit`
`19:50.27`	`Superman`	`that error is GONE`
`19:50.58`	`devel`	`excellent. i only ran in to that when i was building a flash/RO system, and couldn't write the file`
`19:51.06`	`Superman`	`is I am using AMP... should I configure cdr_addon_mysql ?`
`19:52.38`	`devel`	`i can't answer that one.`
`19:52.46`	`mothrbnch`	`has anyone had trouble with the current head running into a endless loop when doing a make`
`19:53.34`	`ManxPower`	`I got my LiveVoip bankrupcy notice toda`
`19:53.48`	`focks`	`anyone using Cisco 7914 ?`
`19:55.05`	`file[desk]`	`ManxPower: exciting.`
`19:55.12`	`zoa`	`hey ho file`
`19:55.15`	`zoa`	`hey ho manx`
`19:55.17`	`file[desk]`	`omg it's zoa`
`19:55.35`	`ManxPower`	`file[desk]: I had like a $1 credit on my account`
`19:56.04`	`mothrbnch`	`im pretty sure the 7914 doesnt work with the sip software`
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`19:57.47`	`file[desk]`	`eep Hmmhesays!`
`19:58.03`	`ManxPower`	`the 7914 is the "sidecar", right? No it doesn't work with SIP`
`19:58.04`	`Hmmhesays`	`:D`
`19:58.30`	`focks`	`ManxPower, yeah i know it only works with SCCP.`
`19:58.39`	`focks`	`my problem isn' that`
`19:58.43`	`supaigtr`	`Anyone using the ecan based cards?`
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`20:00.13`	`jsaunders`	`Is it possible to disable carrying of rtp (SIP) w/ *, and if so, how?`
`20:00.56`	`ManxPower`	`jsaunders: You mean canreinvite=yes Of course both SIP devices have to be using the same codec, can't be behind NAT, and you can't use the t, T, or r(?) options to Dial`
`20:00.58`	`JerJer`	`asterisk is not a sip proxy`
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`20:01.13`	`ManxPower`	`Oh, and what JerJer said`
`20:01.31`	`ManxPower`	`We need a mustreinvite=yes option.`
`20:02.07`	`rephorm`	`does anyone happen to be in austin with a panasonic fax machine? (and would be willing to send a test fax)? :)`
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`20:02.57`	`hardwire`	`blah`
`20:03.04`	`hardwire`	`trying to find an unknown DID`
`20:03.06`	`hardwire`	`this is sure fun`
`20:03.56`	`JerJer`	`ManxPower: i believe some endpoints do not support being re-invited`
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`20:04.14`	`JerJer`	`although they should be few and far between by now`
`20:04.28`	`jsaunders`	`JerJer: So asterisk is a software pbx, leg in, leg out? And to just proxy signalling I would need something along the lines of Ser?`
`20:04.37`	`jsaunders`	`sipwise`
`20:04.38`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`I don't support being re-invited.. if you had a problem with me the first time then... ;)`
`20:05.00`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`jsaunders, yes, asterisk is a B2BUA`
`20:05.05`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`fudge?`
`20:05.50`	`ManxPower`	`jsaunders: You CAN have the audio path go directly between the two devices with Asterisk.`
`20:05.51`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`off to get toys.. bbiab`
`20:05.54`	`brettnem`	`hey, so who's good with the MAX TNT here`
`20:06.00`	`jsaunders`	`I could accomplish the same w/ Vovida's b2bua & Ser?`
`20:06.01`	`ManxPower`	`BUT there are significant limitations, many of which I already mentioned.`
`20:06.02`	`brettnem`	`ManxPower: you TNT right?`
`20:06.13`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: only in my old ISP days.`
`20:06.20`	`ManxPower`	`and it was a MAX Classic, not a TNT`
`20:06.25`	`brettnem`	`hmm`
`20:06.26`	`devel`	`brettnem, i had one in production for a while.`
`20:06.38`	`JerJer`	`its a hybrid-b2bua`
`20:06.38`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`we have a MAX, but not a tnt.. sitting in a closet.`
`20:06.39`	`brettnem`	`Anyone know how to reset password on it?`
`20:06.48`	`MikeJ[Laptop]`	`is it hot?`
`20:06.50`	`JerJer`	`it doesn't really totally fit as a true b2bua`
`20:07.00`	`mut`	`anyone have sip firmware for a solophon 3000?`
`20:07.01`	`brettnem`	`MikeJ[Laptop]: ebay.. grumble`
`20:07.05`	`mut`	`;P`
`20:07.07`	`JerJer`	`or at least what othe commercial solutions consider a b2bua`
`20:07.14`	`mut`	`it's got h323 on it atm`
`20:07.15`	`jsaunders`	`Huh. Yeah, looks limited. Asterisk is quite nice. Especially since I have it slimmed down. http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk+Slimming`
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`20:07.25`	`devel`	`brettnem, does it ask for the password at the serial console?`
`20:07.27`	`JerJer`	`mut: ask the manufacture or vendor you bought it from`
`20:07.36`	`brettnem`	`devel: not sure.. it's about 200 miles away..heh`
`20:07.58`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: There should be a way. On the small Astend ISDN BRI boxes, you opened up the box, set a jumper, powered it back on, powered it off, moved the jumper back.....`
`20:08.16`	`brettnem`	`also wondering if this TNT-SL-ADI-C can be used for voip or if they are just modems..`
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`20:08.30`	`jsaunders`	`ManxPower: So I could handle signalling but not carry audio w/ *? That's with REINVITE and two non-nated supporting ends?`
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`20:08.43`	`devel`	`yeah, i don't think it asks at the serial console, so that's the ticket. i don't know about that card.`
`20:08.47`	`clive-`	`Manx, whats a astend BRI box?.. I am looking for BRI thingys`
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`20:09.52`	`brettnem`	`devel: yeah, someone in my company ebayed a TNT to try to configure with SER.. doh`
`20:10.09`	`ChaotY2k`	`hi.. i think, there was anything connecting asterisk with sipgate (only getting request sent) - but what was it?`
`20:10.30`	`ManxPower`	`jsaunders: SIP is NAT hostile. It works, but not with reinvites`
`20:10.41`	`ManxPower`	`If you want reinvites w/NAT ou need something like SER`
`20:10.47`	`brettnem`	`well not without monkeying with it`
`20:10.47`	`ManxPower`	`If you want reinvites w/NAT then you need something like SER`
`20:11.52`	`jsaunders`	`Gotcha. I've played w/ ser. Could rewrite the URI but not the To: & From: fields in header and it was an issue. Not a C++ supercoder. Heh.`
`20:12.06`	`nwhit`	`can a call go into sip hold, if one end cannot reinvite?`
`20:12.29`	`brettnem`	`it should`
`20:13.07`	`nwhit`	`how do i force a call to go into sip hold?`
`20:13.08`	`brettnem`	`hold is a reinvite to nowhere.. the reinvite signal works fine.. the incompatibility with NAT and reinvites not working has to do with the endpoints not being able to communicate.`
`20:13.12`	`ManxPower`	`it works for us`
`20:13.17`	`jsaunders`	`It's been awhile, bit cloudy. I have the setup kickin' on a devel box somewhere. Using external mod, works good.`
`20:13.20`	`brettnem`	`push thathold button`
`20:13.22`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: you press the HOLD button on your SIP phone`
`20:13.31`	`brettnem`	`haha`
`20:13.37`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, uh... duh`
`20:13.52`	`nwhit`	`but asterisk is staying in the media stream and not dropping it while on hold`
`20:13.53`	`ManxPower`	`If your SIP phone doesn't have a hold button then you are screwed.`
`20:14.12`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, this question is not that simple`
`20:14.15`	`jsaunders`	`ManxPower: Have you ever had a need to rewrite To: & From: in header, or is your routing method handling that properly?`
`20:14.20`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: Why can't the media stream go back to Asterisk? SIGNALLING stays with Asterisk no matter what`
`20:14.33`	`ManxPower`	`jsaunders: No. I deisgn my network so I dn't use reinvites with NAT`
`20:14.38`	`mothrbnch`	`brettnem: If you dont currently have access to the tnt the only way to reset it is from the console and reboot without config`
`20:15.01`	`jsaunders`	`Huh. Thanks muchly for the insight.`
`20:15.14`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, when i put the call on hold, i don't see any sip signal to cancel the media stream... the rtp stream stays up through the call`
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`20:15.25`	`Juxt`	`good day`
`20:15.26`	`jsaunders`	`Who thinks they can beat me in chess? ;)`
`20:15.37`	`Juxt`	`i am trying to put my * behind a DMZ`
`20:15.40`	`Juxt`	`can someone assist me here?`
`20:15.48`	`nwhit`	`my provider wants me to drop the stream when the call is on hold`
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`20:15.53`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: All I know is that I do not disable reinvites, the phones all use the same codec and there's no nat involved and hold works`
`20:16.43`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: and since it's all on the local lan I've not bothered to do the tcdump to confirm`
`20:16.52`	`glm2k`	`Juxt: your router should have an option to add an ip to the DMZ. he menu is different for every router...`
`20:16.59`	`glm2k`	`the even`
`20:17.07`	`Juxt`	`i have my own linux firewall`
`20:17.10`	`Juxt`	`i am using iptables`
`20:17.15`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, the problem that i have is that the clients in my case are most likely to be nated`
`20:17.26`	`ManxPower`	`Juxt: forward the ports, use localnet and externip in sip.conf`
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`20:17.50`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: then I guess you had better start reading up on SER and SIP protocols.`
`20:18.11`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: and your NAT'd SIP clients mostly just call each other and you don't have a lot of bandwidth to the Asterisk server?`
`20:19.13`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, i actually have plenty of bandwidth to the asterisk server, but voice term provider wants me to cancel rtp traffic when the call is on hold`
`20:19.33`	`jsaunders`	`What's wrong w/ iptables? Works great.`
`20:19.59`	`Juxt`	`hmm i think i have port forwarding done incorrectly`
`20:20.14`	`jsaunders`	`More likely than correctly. Heh.`
`20:20.23`	`ManxPower`	`Juxt: you confirmed that the client is configured for the right RTP ports?`
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`20:20.32`	`EvilMetal`	`hello, is somebody know if pri code handle asterisk sms. I have gsm gateway connected to a quad t1/e1 digium card`
`20:20.43`	`ManxPower`	`Juxt: and your localnet and externip are set correctly.`
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`20:20.51`	`Juxt`	`localnet and extenip are correct`
`20:20.55`	`Juxt`	`and i am forwarding all ports`
`20:21.14`	`ManxPower`	`Juxt: and you disabled all NAT settings and portforwarding on the remote locations.`
`20:21.15`	`Juxt`	`here's my forwarding setup http://pastebin.ca/19643`
`20:21.22`	`Juxt`	`yeah`
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`20:21.41`	`Juxt`	`generally i took a box that worked great with a public ip and stuck it behind a firewall`
`20:21.42`	`nwhit`	`another question along the same lines: if m forces music on hold and r forces ringing (and the wiki says to not to use r), then how do i just disable music on old?`
`20:21.44`	`nwhit`	`hold`
`20:21.45`	`ManxPower`	`Juxt: sounds like you need to break out tcpdump`
`20:21.46`	`Juxt`	`now nothing works`
`20:22.00`	`Hmmhesays`	`some guy just got all upset because he didn't get a CD with the pdf manuals on it`
`20:22.02`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: What?`
`20:22.06`	`harryvv`	`juxt, did you make a sip to sip call?`
`20:22.10`	`Juxt`	`yeah`
`20:22.13`	`gambolputty`	`anyone tackle app_devstate.c yet? http://groups-beta.google.com/group/Asterisk-users/browse_thread/thread/6dccc736e0b3e226/2589af8f7d97e3d6?lnk=st&q=app_devstate.c&rnum=1&hl=en#2589af8f7d97e3d6`
`20:22.22`	`Juxt`	`before (with public ip) it worked great`
`20:22.30`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: see this:`
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`20:22.33`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, i just want comfort noise or just nothing while on hold... how do i force that`
`20:23.06`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, params in the Dial()`
`20:23.08`	`ManxPower`	`rec: Generate a ringing tone for the calling party, passing no audio from the called channel(s) until one answers. Use with care and don't insert this by default into all your dial statements as you are killing call progress information for the user. Really, you almost certainly do not want to use this. Asterisk will generate ring tones automatically where`
`20:23.08`	`ManxPower`	`it is appropriate to do so. "r" makes it go the next step and`
`20:23.08`	`ManxPower`	`additionally generate ring tones where it is probably not appropriate to do so.`
`20:23.19`	`harryvv`	`anyone have a page on what are the US steps to offer 911 service?`
`20:23.28`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: you can't do that. You either get ringing or you get MoH`
`20:23.44`	`ManxPower`	`harryvv: it varies depending on the city`
`20:24.03`	`rec`	`ManxPower: eh?`
`20:24.11`	`ManxPower`	`rec: eh what?`
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`20:24.15`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, what about just when the call is put on hold... how do i disable moh... just do SetMusicOnHold() without any params?`
`20:24.35`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: if you don't have music on hold set up then you will not get music on hold.`
`20:24.47`	`rec`	`ManxPower: look up... you addressed that to me`
`20:24.55`	`rec`	`ManxPower: so "eh?"`
`20:24.58`	`Meaty`	`lol`
`20:25.02`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, what if on certain call i want moh and others not`
`20:25.04`	`ManxPower`	`rec: stupid nic compleation`
`20:25.16`	`ManxPower`	`that was supposed to be r: Generate a ringing tone for the call....`
`20:25.25`	`rec`	`ahh`
`20:25.27`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: that's a good question.`
`20:25.39`	`ManxPower`	`you could just setmusiconhold(doesntexist)`
`20:25.44`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, any ideas?`
`20:25.46`	`ManxPower`	`I dunno if that works or not.`
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`20:25.56`	`ManxPower`	`or you can try it with no options.`
`20:26.03`	`nwhit`	`ManxPower, it starts music on hold on then immediately stops it`
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`20:27.44`	`nwhit`	`Executing SetMusicOnHold("SIP/2000-48da", "") in new stack`
`20:27.44`	`nwhit`	`Aug 9 13:30:57 WARNING[3746]: res_musiconhold.c:565 moh2_exec: SetMusicOnHold requires an argument (class)`
`20:28.05`	`nwhit`	`no args doesnt work`
`20:28.06`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: well don't set music on hold for the devices you don't want it for.`
`20:28.07`	`mut`	`anyone know if sip is fully workin with HEAD today?`
`20:28.29`	`nwhit`	`hmm,,. let me see`
`20:28.44`	`nwhit`	`does a reload reload the musiconhold.conf?`
`20:28.54`	`Juggie`	`just do`
`20:28.59`	`Juggie`	`'reload res_musiconhold'`
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`20:30.18`	`ManxPower`	`nwhit: maybe in CVS-HEAD`
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`20:34.13`	`cpatry`	`reload res_musiconhold.so :)`
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`20:36.38`	`jaxxan`	`when i modprobe tor2, it loads zaptel and tor2 modules, but i get the following error "line 142: Unable to open master device '/dev/zap/ctl'`
`20:37.14`	`jaxxan`	`<PROTECTED>`
`20:37.35`	`jaxxan`	`should i be able to cat something to /dev/zap/ctl ?`
`20:37.44`	`ManxPower`	`jaxxan: you have a old T400P or a TE400P?`
`20:37.44`	`nwhit`	`ill have to play with having reinvite`
`20:37.54`	`jaxxan`	`crwxrwxrwx 1 root root 196, 0 Aug 9 09:25 ctl`
`20:37.57`	`jaxxan`	`i have the old t400p card`
`20:38.08`	`nwhit`	`it looks like it stops rtp from asterisk to the device that put the call on hold, but not rtp to the other side`
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`20:39.49`	`Hmmhesays`	`god I hate comfort noise`
`20:40.16`	`ChaotY2k`	`i think, there was anything connecting asterisk with sipgate (only getting request sent) - but what was it? - * dont register... always timeout`
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`20:40.31`	`jaxxan`	`ManxPower: i was using 1.0.1, but now i'm using 1.0.9 do i need to remake all the config files for zapata and zaptel? is there anything new that i should know ?`
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`20:41.01`	`ataraxis`	`hi, i'm trying to connect isdn data devices to a hfc card in nt mode: i only get: NOTICE[3344]: chan_zap.c:7819 pri_dchannel: PRI got event: HDLC Abort (6) on Primary D-channel of span 2`
`20:43.15`	`ManxPower`	`ataraxis: 1) your are shareing IRQs, or 2) you have a device (IDE, SATA, and RAID most common) that is locking interrupts for way too long and causing data to be lost from the ISDN`
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`20:45.10`	`Katty`	`hello moto`
`20:45.19`	`JakBeatZ`	`Anyone know any hooks to get the meetme() r option in CVS-HEAD to perhaps use a different bitrate when it records a meetme as a wav? a full rate wav format recording doesn't do justice to filesize and using gsm I dont' think is readily playable on most media players, is it?`
`20:45.47`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: Try WAV49`
`20:45.51`	`ataraxis`	`ManxPower: /proc/interrupts is clean (zaphfc is the only entry), so it could only be my harddrive (nothing else is connected). any special hdparm settings?`
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`20:46.20`	`ManxPower`	`ataraxis: on my system I look in /etc/sysconfig/harddisks`
`20:46.37`	`Bentley`	`hello all, does anyone know if I need to pull latest zaptel drivers for the TE406P, or if older versions of the wct4xxp should work (just want to do a card swap on a prod system)?`
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`20:46.55`	`ManxPower`	`Bentley: you need the latest or close to the latest`
`20:47.12`	`mishehu`	`bah bah bah.`
`20:47.15`	`Bentley`	`ManxPower: thx. Is v1-0 branch of zaptel okay?`
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`20:47.32`	`ataraxis`	`ManxPower: and what are you looking for in there? i don't have that directory (i think it's a redhat one, i have debian). my linux knowledge is good, but I'm an asterisk beginner`
`20:47.37`	`FarrisG`	`man, this Polycom 501 is a pain in the ASS to configure`
`20:47.44`	`ManxPower`	`Bentley: check the changelog, but I think -r v1-0 CVS has it.`
`20:47.51`	`brettnem`	`JakBeatZ: gsm plays fine on the apple quicktime player which is downloadable on many platforms.`
`20:47.52`	`Bentley`	`will do - thx`
`20:47.58`	`ManxPower`	`FarrisG: it only hurts the first time.`
`20:48.24`	`JakBeatZ`	`brettnem: Ya, my powerbook plays GSM fine, but I'm just thinking about those people who think WMP is the end all and be all :(`
`20:48.34`	`mishehu`	`FarrisG is a virgin`
`20:48.37`	`mishehu`	`you only bleed once`
`20:48.44`	`Ariel_`	`FarrisG, use the power of ftp`
`20:48.47`	`JakBeatZ`	`ManxPower: I'll try wav49.. I dont' see that documetend anywhere.. is there a list on the wiki?`
`20:48.47`	`mishehu`	`heh`
`20:48.49`	`brettnem`	`JakBeatZ: after I downloaded quicktime on my PC, WMP plays gsm fine`
`20:48.59`	`JakBeatZ`	`Yer kidding?`
`20:49.03`	`Corydon-w`	`mishehu: if you do it right, you won't bleed at all... :-P`
`20:49.04`	`mishehu`	`I imagine that hte 501's use a similar config to the 500's?`
`20:49.13`	`ManxPower`	`mishehu: exactly`
`20:49.15`	`JakBeatZ`	`that's funny.`
`20:49.20`	`mishehu`	`Corydon-w: depends on how allergic you are to polycom xml configs`
`20:49.28`	`brettnem`	`I think so..`
`20:49.32`	`brettnem`	`it's just a codec`
`20:49.38`	`Ariel_`	`mishehu, it can use the same files`
`20:49.45`	`Corydon-w`	`mishehu: eh, just generate them with Perl, like I do...`
`20:49.55`	`Corydon-w`	`templates and Perl...`
`20:50.10`	`rephorm`	`mishehu: basically the same. newer app versions combine ipmid.cfg and sip.cg into the sip.cfg file (basically, everything in ipmid goes into sip.cfg's <sip /> tag)`
`20:50.24`	`Corydon-w`	`I imagine you'd be bleary eyed if you tried to hand configure 200 Polycoms...`
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`20:50.47`	`Corydon-w`	`Maybe even a heart attack... http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050809/tc_nm/korea_games_dc`
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`20:50.58`	`Ariel_`	`anyone will go nuts if they have to configure manual 200 phones`
`20:51.10`	`mut`	`overtime pay`
`20:51.19`	`Corydon-w`	`Ariel_: that assumes you aren't nuts already`
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`20:51.32`	`Ariel_`	`Corydon-w, yep most of us are..`
`20:51.47`	`Corydon-w`	`Eh, I prefer "eccentric"`
`20:52.16`	`Ariel_`	`Corydon-w, ok then you can call me eccentric as well.`
`20:52.17`	`Darwin35`	`ok festival 1.96 is made`
`20:52.20`	`Juxt`	`can someone show me an example of iptables and asterisk on dmz?`
`20:52.26`	`mut`	`holy crapola`
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`20:52.32`	`mut`	`406p is $1000 more?`
`20:52.46`	`ManxPower`	`I spent an hour or two writing a perl script to do much of the polycom configuration for me.`
`20:52.54`	`Ariel_`	`mut, it's really just a sister board they put on the 405`
`20:52.59`	`ManxPower`	`mut: the 406 had a hardware echocan board on it`
`20:53.20`	`Katty`	`well, after the excel conferencce..`
`20:53.24`	`mut`	`is it even necessary tho`
`20:53.26`	`Katty`	`i've learned a Very Important Thing`
`20:53.42`	`Katty`	`all day long...full day of excel filled spreadsheetness`
`20:53.44`	`ManxPower`	`mut: Hardware echocan makes life wonderful`
`20:53.46`	`Katty`	`and this is all i have learned.`
`20:53.50`	`Ariel_`	`hello Katty. l==== sends a small hug.`
`20:53.50`	`Katty`	`excel is teh sukc!`
`20:53.51`	`hardwire`	`sweet`
`20:53.57`	`hardwire`	`got MoH working with esdmon`
`20:54.01`	`hardwire`	`and mpd :)`
`20:55.00`	`jaxxan`	`anyone have any documentation for getting a T400P to work with 1.0.9 ?`
`20:55.28`	`ManxPower`	`jaxxan: um, there's nothing special about it.`
`20:55.47`	`FarrisG`	`Is it easier to configure a 501 via the http interface, or the phone interface?`
`20:55.57`	`Ariel_`	`FarrisG, via ftp`
`20:56.06`	`FarrisG`	`Ariel_: Do you mean Tftp?`
`20:56.13`	`ManxPower`	`FarrisG: no, he means FTP`
`20:56.15`	`Ariel_`	`FarrisG, ftp not tftp`
`20:56.23`	`ManxPower`	`FarrisG: Um, dude, read the Admin Guide for the Polycom`
`20:56.28`	`ryansc`	`can anyone give feedback on the polycom soundpoint 600's?`
`20:56.38`	`Ariel_`	`ryansc, nice`
`20:56.48`	`Ariel_`	`good well worth the money`
`20:56.55`	`ryansc`	`been working with grandstream, having many problems with them`
`20:56.55`	`mut`	`wooooo`
`20:56.59`	`mut`	`work day is almost over`
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`20:57.21`	`Ariel_`	`ryansc, your going from a bug to a BMW type of phone.`
`20:57.22`	`ryansc`	`thats good to hear, my boss is getting a little out of control because these phones can't be programmed for how he wants it`
`20:57.23`	`ManxPower`	`ryansc: the massive numbers of issues reported on the mailing lists didn't tip you off about Grandstream?`
`20:57.38`	`ryansc`	`actually my boss compared it to a yugo`
`20:57.42`	`ManxPower`	`ryansc: We use Polycom 300 and 500's and will be giving the operator a 600`
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`20:58.01`	`ryansc`	`I need a 4 channel capable phone it would be nice if it could handle 5`
`20:58.04`	`Ariel_`	`yugo yes that is true`
`20:58.16`	`Ariel_`	`ryansc, why?`
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`20:58.29`	`mut`	`so the secretary can go nuts`
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`20:58.43`	`Ariel_`	`Flash Operator Panel and training`
`20:58.58`	`ryansc`	`he wants to have line in use indicators, whether they do anything or not he just needs to see what incoming lines are in use`
`20:59.18`	`Ariel_`	`ryansc, FOP`
`20:59.29`	`ryansc`	`well the FOP is great however, dealing with stupid people gets rather aggrivating really quickly, especially when its a conclusion jumper`
`20:59.33`	`ChaotY2k`	`anyone a idea why sipgate only times out at a fried of me? - i tryed my configs, but there is the problem too... i think, there must be a patch or something else`
`20:59.35`	`ManxPower`	`ryansc: I said "NO" like 50 times a day when we installed Asterisk. Users wanted things EXACTLY like they had with the old system. After a month they stopped complaining`
`21:00.05`	`ryansc`	`well I will be saying that when these phones don't support it and I can get several * owners to say thats not how its done anymore`
`21:00.27`	`Ariel_`	`ryansc, you have to play with something called hint to get that to work`
`21:00.43`	`ManxPower`	`ryansc: shared line apperances just doens't scale all that well. small key systems still have a line appearance per line.`
`21:00.47`	`ryansc`	`apparently since he hired me he seems to magically know more about things than I do, and it takes me and several other IT's to get him back in his place`
`21:00.47`	`Ariel_`	`but why would you just use fop and some good training will get it done.`
`21:01.06`	`ChaotY2k`	`plz help me.. i spent hours on google, but no result which helps`
`21:01.24`	`ManxPower`	`ChaotY2k: I don't even understand your problem.`
`21:01.37`	`ManxPower`	`And I'll be nobody else here does either.`
`21:01.41`	`Ariel_`	`ChaotY2k, if it's just one user that has the problem it could be the provider have you asked them?`
`21:01.52`	`ryansc`	`well even if I can get the call waiting lights to work correctly (as opposed to grandstream) I think he will be happy`
`21:02.11`	`ryansc`	`can someone explain hint for me at all? or is this a google thing`
`21:02.12`	`Ariel_`	`call waiting light`
`21:02.16`	`ManxPower`	`ryansc: call waiting?`
`21:02.45`	`ManxPower`	`ARGH! I wish the Feds would stop raising interest rates.`
`21:02.54`	`ManxPower`	`It cuts into my income.`
`21:03.00`	`Hmmhesays`	`I wish I wasn't about to shove a pencil through my eye`
`21:03.03`	`Nugget`	`my mortgage is locked. raise away. :)`
`21:03.17`	`ManxPower`	`Nugget: %90 of my revenue comes from a real estate company.`
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`21:03.37`	`ryansc`	`well two things with call waiting, (souunds weird), I need to have a min of 4 calls coming into the phone at a time, and I need the call waiting enable/disable feature to work correctly, if its on the light needs to be on if its off the light needs to be off`
`21:03.47`	`ManxPower`	`interest rates go up and home sales go down and management puts a freeze on spending increases.`
`21:04.07`	`ManxPower`	`ryansc: I know of no device that does that.`
`21:04.16`	`ryansc`	`the grandstream tried to fake it`
`21:04.34`	`ChaotY2k`	`ManxPower: a friend installed asterisk. but he only gets timeout - in sip show registry there is "Request Sent" - in log is "retrans_pkt: Maximum retries exceeded on call ..." - we tried my config-files (completely copied) but it's the same result... - what else could it be?`
`21:04.44`	`harryvv`	`manx, in what realestate company? and how so..?`
`21:04.48`	`ryansc`	`it needs to be able to show if a feature is enabled, be it call waiting or DND or call forwarding`
`21:04.53`	`ManxPower`	`ChaotY2k: dude, I can think of a zillion possible issues.`
`21:05.01`	`ManxPower`	`harryvv: Huh?`
`21:05.02`	`twisted`	`ryansc, try adsi :)`
`21:05.10`	`ManxPower`	`twisted: that's just sick.`
`21:05.12`	`harryvv`	`ohh manx, you mean thay will be less interested in buying voip services ?`
`21:05.23`	`ryansc`	`alright whats that`
`21:05.28`	`twisted`	`JerJer, wrong drugs`
`21:05.33`	`ChaotY2k`	`my config, which we copied, works fine at my line... but not at his asterisk...`
`21:05.37`	`ManxPower`	`harryvv: I'm a consultant. I don't sell VoIP services.`
`21:05.38`	`JerJer`	`they still help :)`
`21:05.53`	`ManxPower`	`ChaotY2k: then tell him to get his lazy ass on the channel.`
`21:05.53`	`twisted`	`JerJer, i doubt it.. hydrocodone won't kill the pain`
`21:06.22`	`twisted`	`hah`
`21:06.22`	`ChaotY2k`	`could it be, there is a patch for sipgate.de? - i've googled but didn't find a possible patch`
`21:06.26`	`Ariel_`	`ChaotY2k, well I would look first at a firewall /nat issue if you can't get it registered.`
`21:06.38`	`ryansc`	`well if the polycom phones support these features or are completely programmable then it sounds like a good buy to me`
`21:06.46`	`ChaotY2k`	`i've root rights on his box...`
`21:06.57`	`ChaotY2k`	`Ariel_: firewall is disabled...`
`21:07.19`	`ManxPower`	`ChaotY2k: what is the output of "sip show registry"`
`21:07.34`	`ChaotY2k`	`Host Username Refresh State`
`21:07.34`	`ChaotY2k`	`sipgate.de:5060 5708380 120 Request Sent`
`21:07.34`	`ManxPower`	`and don't flood the channel. put the info on pastebin.ca if it's more than a couple of lines.`
`21:07.50`	`ManxPower`	`ChaotY2k: the provider is ignoreing or refusing your registration`
`21:08.04`	`ManxPower`	`NEXT!!`
`21:08.18`	`Ariel_`	`I am hungry....`
`21:08.24`	`ryansc`	`well thank you for those of you who helped me with the descision, now can someone tell me what hint is?`
`21:08.24`	`ManxPower`	`But it really looks like a firewall issue`
`21:08.26`	`Ariel_`	`what should I get for dinner.`
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`21:08.35`	`JerJer`	`http://www.computerwire.com/industries/research/?pid=CB962087%2D3A3C%2D4DC5%2D985C%2D8DB8115F4FB9`
`21:08.42`	`ChaotY2k`	`i think to remember, there was anything else with sipgate... but i dont remember what...`
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`21:09.55`	`ManxPower`	`?[Asterisk] is not close to carrier grade,? Mandelstam said. ?It?s free and we?ll live with its quirks because the alternative is just so much more expensive.?`
`21:10.11`	`ManxPower`	`Asterisk also has not been designed for scalability, he said. Yet unlike its open-source rivals, Asterisk does actually work, he said.`
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`21:10.51`	`glm2k`	`bah, wanna scale. buy more boxes. it's still cheaper than getting an E1`
`21:11.14`	`JerJer`	`this guy has no clue about commodity hardware scaling techniques`
`21:11.18`	`ManxPower`	`glm2k: Huh?`
`21:11.31`	`ManxPower`	`glm2k: I have T-1's in all my larger Asterisk installs`
`21:11.43`	`glm2k`	`JerJer: i never said i was a telco huy :)`
`21:11.47`	`glm2k`	`er, guy`
`21:11.55`	`ManxPower`	`I mean, why would I ever trust VoIP over the internet for business critical calls?`
`21:11.55`	`JerJer`	`no that mandelstam moron`
`21:12.19`	`glm2k`	`ack! not JerJer ... ManxPower`
`21:12.24`	`glm2k`	`sowwie`
`21:13.10`	`glm2k`	`jeez, i think i need a nap`
`21:13.15`	`ManxPower`	`I do NOT like mobs of users waving torches and screaming "burn the geek" when the person they are trying to fac a $2 million contract to can't get their fax because the phone system is down.`
`21:13.23`	`ManxPower`	`fac == fax`
`21:13.24`	`glm2k`	`rotfl`
`21:13.37`	`ManxPower`	`glm2k: I'm only exagerating a small amount.`
`21:13.40`	`glm2k`	`i know`
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`21:13.48`	`JerJer`	`don't fax over ip`
`21:13.52`	`glm2k`	`but that's what i told a client in asia.`
`21:13.53`	`ManxPower`	`You have to be a special kind of sadistic bastard idiot to become a real estate agent.`
`21:13.56`	`JerJer`	`use store and forward`
`21:14.07`	`mbrady`	`oh neat, the asterisk channel.`
`21:14.11`	`ManxPower`	`JerJer: stop poking holes in my example. 8-)`
`21:14.15`	`Darwin35`	`anyone having issues with gaim and man/yahoo ?`
`21:14.16`	`harryvv`	`anyone here running a spa 1000?`
`21:14.23`	`glm2k`	`he wanted a system that was up all the time, so he asked if i could guarantee a UPS on my end and set up a UPS on his * server as well.`
`21:14.29`	`EvilMetal`	`hello, is somebody know if pri code handle asterisk sms. I have gsm gateway connected to a quad t1/e1 digium card`
`21:14.29`	`ryansc`	`welcome to asterisk TV (only had 1 hour of sleep in the past day)`
`21:14.35`	`glm2k`	`so after trying to explain to him it wont work...`
`21:15.06`	`ManxPower`	`EvilMetal: Yes. See "show application sms"`
`21:15.07`	`glm2k`	`i asked him if during power outages (which they get a lot, sometimes even scheduled!), he can guarantee his ISP will have poewr. he shut up.`
`21:15.28`	`EvilMetal`	`ManxPower : but sms stop on pri with error`
`21:15.32`	`JerJer`	`UPS+Generator`
`21:15.45`	`ManxPower`	`EvilMetal: then perhaps you should try to diagnose the error?`
`21:16.21`	`glm2k`	`JerJer: he already has a generator. they get power outages for 6-8 hours on weekends. heh`
`21:16.23`	`EvilMetal`	`ManxPower : already done ... Asterisk said : > Channel Zap/1-1 was never answered.`
`21:16.51`	`EvilMetal`	`Manxpower : but we try with commercial software and it's work`
`21:17.09`	`ManxPower`	`EvilMetal: What's the phone number for your SMSC?`
`21:17.36`	`EvilMetal`	`manxpower : it's E1 to GSM Gateway. what do you means with SMSC ?`
`21:18.00`	`ManxPower`	`SMSC is the center that takes your SMS message and sends it to the phone.`
`21:18.22`	`ManxPower`	`EvilMetal: Of course Asterisk only supports a limited number of SMS providers. "Works to ETSI ES 201 912 compatible with BT SMS PSTN service in UK"`
`21:18.35`	`EvilMetal`	`ok we have sim card in the gsm gateway so SMSC is the sim card, so the gsm network operator`
`21:18.42`	`ManxPower`	`EvilMetal: you've confirmed that your carrier uses ETSI ES 201 912?`
`21:19.19`	`ManxPower`	`EvilMetal: your search of the mailing list archive didn't help? You can also try here during the DAY and early EVENING Centeral EU time.`
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`21:21.29`	`ManxPower`	`~mailinglist`
`21:21.29`	`jbot`	`methinks mailinglist is Search Asterisk mailing lists by prepending site:lists.digium.com to your Google search. Browse the mailing list archive at http://lists.digium.com/`
`21:21.38`	`ManxPower`	`EvilMetal: also search the wiki`
`21:21.40`	`ManxPower`	`~docs`
`21:21.40`	`jbot`	`methinks docs is Documentation can be found at http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk or http://www.asteriskdocs.org or http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk`
`21:21.45`	`EvilMetal`	`thanks, i will try later. The gateways is a 2N and i can send SMS to the GSM network, so the problem could come from EUROISDN PRI (E1) part. I only see this in debug mode :"TpT>[ SMS ] TpU#"`
`21:22.01`	`EvilMetal`	`rest is normal PRI debug mode`
`21:22.30`	`EvilMetal`	`manxpower : thanks anyway`
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`21:23.18`	`EdNiGMA`	`hi there ppl!`
`21:24.07`	`EdNiGMA`	`can we use MGCP trunking?`
`21:24.12`	`EdNiGMA`	`:D`
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`21:28.36`	`Darwin35`	`ok the add new exten page works in gastman`
`21:28.51`	`Darwin35`	`for sip`
`21:29.22`	`rephorm`	`anyone using polycoms noticed occasional echo on polycom -> asterisk -> polycom calls? (all local network, all sip)`
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`21:30.39`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: never. It should be impossible.`
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`21:30.52`	`rephorm`	`it seems like all the echo information on the wiki has to do with pots originated echos (made noticeable by latency in voip calls)`
`21:31.11`	`NightHawke`	`need assistance in working the bugs out of a dialplan on A@H`
`21:31.26`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: yeah, i understand that it "should be" (as there's no analog signal to reflect anywhere) but, I definitely get it`
`21:31.27`	`NightHawke`	`TDM400s`
`21:31.36`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: since there's no 2-wire segment of the calls it should be impossible to have echo in your setup.`
`21:31.55`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: Most "impossible echo issues" are volume problems on the handset`
`21:32.30`	`SpaceBass`	`one of my 7940's was playing out of the speaker and handset... not sure what that was all about`
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`21:33.29`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: hmm. as in speaker audio leaking back into the mic?`
`21:33.44`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: yup`
`21:33.53`	`lters`	`SpaceBass, we found that to be the case when the speaker vol is too high.`
`21:34.44`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: earlier today i was on a call from here (texas) through a pbx at the local office to a remote phone in canada (sip reg'd to the same pbx). would get about half a sec of delay before the echo occasionally. (delay time and echo volume was changing throughout the call)`
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`21:37.25`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: that's totally different, that includes 2-wire segments`
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`21:37.57`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: no it doesn't. the phone in canada was reg'd to the pbx here`
`21:38.30`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: totally sip, the whole way`
`21:38.36`	`NightHawke`	`need assistance in working the bugs out of a dialplan on A@H`
`21:38.43`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: So no PBX handset?`
`21:38.56`	`ManxPower`	`Since almost all PBX phones are 2-wire for the audio stuff.`
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`21:39.19`	`jaxxan`	`sweet, i just needed a 3 second pause after loading the driver`
`21:39.31`	`b0ef`	`anyone noticed asterisk stops sending data in recent cvs?`
`21:40.00`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: ok, again: polycom A -> asterisk -> polycom B. pcom A and asterisk in texas, pcom B in canada`
`21:40.04`	`b0ef`	`viewing with tcpdump, it stops transmitting data after some 20 seconds into the call (iax)`
`21:40.09`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: all doing sip`
`21:40.19`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: you live in a really weird universe.`
`21:40.39`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: ?`
`21:40.55`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: what, you've never taken a sip phone with you on the road?`
`21:41.07`	`Katty`	`Right.`
`21:41.13`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: I've never had echo on a %100 SIP call.`
`21:41.21`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: ahh. :)`
`21:41.26`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: you use polycoms?`
`21:42.00`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: because we had a different install, with ~40 phones. they get echo on sip to sip calls also`
`21:42.27`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: I have something like 40+ polycomes deployed on a server. No echo`
`21:43.09`	`_solstice_`	`Anyone here ever deal with Cisco 7960 Phones, and switched them between asterisk and the Cisco call manager a few times?`
`21:43.11`	`jaxxan`	`did cdr_manager replace cdr_asterisk ?`
`21:43.12`	`ManxPower`	`Well, no echo on SIP<->SIP calls`
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`21:43.21`	`jaxxan`	`erm...`
`21:43.24`	`jaxxan`	`did cdr_manager replace cdr_mysql`
`21:44.05`	`rephorm`	`ManxPower: yeah, we usually don't have echo, but occasionally we do, and its fairly bad when we do. i have no clue how to go about debugging, as it theoretically shouldn't happen. handset leakage wouldn't get delays like i got today...`
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`21:44.17`	`rephorm`	`anyway. home time :)`
`21:44.23`	`rephorm`	`will think about it more tomorrow.`
`21:44.33`	`ManxPower`	`rephorm: the only time I've heard of that is when there was a problem with the motherboard`
`21:44.40`	`ManxPower`	`DESIGN of the motherboard`
`21:45.23`	`sangee`	`Anyone tell me how to create zapata.conf for 4span T1 please?`
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`21:46.08`	`wunderkin`	`sangee, you should be able to find examples on the wiki and digium website`
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`21:47.00`	`_solstice_`	`I am trying to figure out how hard it is to convert a 7960 back from SIP to SCCP, as i have only a test phone here ..`
`21:47.09`	`sangee`	`i find one span and working fine, but i don't find for 4 spans`
`21:47.09`	`Bj17`	`quit`
`21:47.13`	`Bj17`	`bye`
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`21:50.33`	`mago2-cn`	`hello everyone, where are you?`
`21:50.45`	`ManxPower`	`I'm at my desk`
`21:51.04`	`mago2-cn`	`not much people chatting i mean`
`21:51.07`	`pur-angst`	`i have no idea where i am.`
`21:51.47`	`ManxPower`	`I was making dinner`
`21:51.53`	`ManxPower`	`now I'm working on pissing off users.`
`21:52.05`	`mago2-cn`	`what time zone are you in?`
`21:52.05`	`pur-angst`	`mmm, dinner`
`21:52.23`	`ManxPower`	`Me, CDT`
`21:52.31`	`Katty`	`mishehu: meee sha who`
`21:52.42`	`TerryMR`	`just lurking here ... trying to work up the enthusiasm to do something with this TDM40B that UPS dropped off`
`21:52.45`	`mishehu`	`Chatty Katty`
`21:53.04`	`Katty`	`:>`
`21:53.08`	`mishehu`	`lets see if I can get spandsp installed and working.`
`21:53.47`	`JakBeatZ`	`Is there a way to get extended debugging information when * starts up? I see to be having trouble getting it to start up. a PID is file is created and it starts fine if I run it manually, but I for some reason it won't stay running when I start it from my gentoo init scripts and I'm not sure if it's * or something else causing the issues`
`21:53.54`	`mago2-cn`	`i have some spans running`
`21:54.18`	`mago2-cn`	`not that type, zap`
`21:54.19`	`JakBeatZ`	`I should clarify that last statement..`
`21:54.31`	`JakBeatZ`	`I mean extended debugging to syslog or something`
`21:55.55`	`brettnem`	`hey, can anyone tell me how to use split screen in "screen" ?`
`21:56.09`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: /etc/asterisk/logger.conf`
`21:56.11`	`brettnem`	`I added a split, but nothing is running in the other window.`
`21:56.21`	`mishehu`	`kram da man.`
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`21:56.32`	`JakBeatZ`	`ManxPower: Thanx`
`21:57.11`	`brettnem`	`come on, I know you guys know screen. :)`
`21:57.46`	`mago2-cn`	`JakBeatZ: /var/log/asterisk/`
`21:58.26`	`ManxPower`	`brettnem: I stopped using screen about 5 years ago when I started using a GUO`
`21:58.29`	`ManxPower`	`GUI too`
`21:59.21`	`glm2k`	`brettnem: Ctrl-a Ctrl-n switches windows`
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`22:01.39`	`sangee`	`can i get sample zapata.cfg for 4T1 isdn please?`
`22:02.43`	`xcore`	`hello people. I'm having problems with phones Plantronics in asterisk. The DTFM looks too weak, and i dont can disk any number`
`22:03.14`	`xcore`	`the sound of line persist for a while, then the occuped sound appears`
`22:03.45`	`xcore`	`how can i adjust that gain`
`22:04.10`	`ManxPower`	`xcore: rxgain and txgain in zapata.con`
`22:04.11`	`ManxPower`	`conf`
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`22:14.47`	`Katty`	`yay for home!`
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`22:17.02`	`Bentley`	`hello all - if I build a newer zaptel, do i also need to rebuild *, or does it not matter?`
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`22:17.38`	`ManxPower`	`Bentley: always keep Asterisk, libpri, and zaptel versions in sync`
`22:18.02`	`Bentley`	`ManxPower: thx again :-)`
`22:19.13`	`ManxPower`	`I think all my users are deaf.`
`22:19.36`	`ManxPower`	`and they can't read.`
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`22:20.05`	`ManxPower`	`Since we announced the downtime for our PBX several times today via overhead announcements, voicemail, and e-mail and yet they are still making phone calls.`
`22:20.36`	`hardwire`	`wow`
`22:20.45`	`hardwire`	`subpixel smoothing and a transparent background == sloow freaking terminal`
`22:20.54`	`hardwire`	`I thought it was the ssh session`
`22:21.14`	`rec`	`is away`
`22:24.41`	`ManxPower`	`unload chan_sip.so`
`22:24.44`	`ManxPower`	`THAT WILL FIX THEM!!!!!`
`22:25.36`	`ManxPower`	`Just because someone is the 4th highest grosing real estate agent in the country doesn't give them the right to delay me.`
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`22:28.46`	`mago2-cn`	`anyone knows where i enter the data for the accountcode of h323users? accountcode=code?`
`22:29.26`	`SplasPoo1`	`anyone know what may be causing these errors: Aug 9 18:28:35 NOTICE[11496]: rtp.c:1217 ast_rtp_raw_write: RTP Transmission error to 192.168.1.50:16414: Operation not permitted`
`22:29.33`	`crash3m`	`~lart crash3m`
`22:32.20`	`pur-angst`	`ManxPower: you gotta love people who ignore announcements of scheduled downtime... i bet they'll swamp the helpdesk with questions like 'why didn't my phone call go through' and crap like that...`
`22:35.01`	`SplasPoo1`	`nevermind, firewall issue..`
`22:37.16`	`hardwire`	`hmm`
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`22:37.19`	`jjg`	`hi`
`22:37.30`	`hardwire`	`this is tricky`
`22:37.44`	`jjg`	`anyone know of a turn-key pre-paid calling card platform ?`
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`22:38.37`	`ManxPower`	`pur-angst: well since they can't call the helpdesk....`
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`22:39.31`	`ManxPower`	`and since almost nobody knows the helpdesk number. It's only posted on every phone list at that office....`
`22:40.21`	`pur-angst`	`ManxPower: heh... after the outage, people will be calling... probably`
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`22:43.30`	`ManxPower`	`pur-angst: they can't read so they can't read the phone list.`
`22:44.01`	`jjg`	`no turnkey solution with asterisk eh ... anyone know if quintum has a prepaid`
`22:47.38`	`devel`	`jjg, quintum can do it with a radius/database backend i believe.`
`22:47.45`	`devel`	`but still not turnkey`
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`22:47.53`	`devel`	`you're better off with asterisk.`
`22:47.55`	`jjg`	`devel : know any other options?`
`22:48.09`	`dijungal`	`i'm having some trouble installing AMP`
`22:48.11`	`ManxPower`	`jjg: Most hardware companies require you to pay before they ship.`
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`22:48.18`	`mago2-cn`	`i have a delay before audio begins in h.323 calls from ccm to asterisk, it appears that asterisk doesn't know how to tell the cm that the call was answered. take a look please and comment: http://pastebin.ca/19662`
`22:48.36`	`devel`	`no, i just finished a small quintum deployment, that's the only reason i know that.`
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`22:49.02`	`jjg`	`ManxPower : you are joking right?`
`22:49.18`	`dijungal`	`when i reach this part in the AMP installation ... my sql tells me access denied for user 'root@localhost' -> [root@pbx asterisk]# mysqladmin -u root password 'passw0rd'`
`22:50.02`	`dijungal`	`What i reach this part in the AMP installation '[root@pbx asterisk]# mysqladmin -u root password 'passw0rd'' mysql tells me "access denied for user: 'root@localhost'"`
`22:50.07`	`dijungal`	`any suggestions..?`
`22:50.12`	`jjg`	`devel : did you use the Tenor AX ?`
`22:50.18`	`devel`	`jjg, aye`
`22:50.26`	`skram\|`	`dijungal are you using the right password?`
`22:50.27`	`skram\|`	`heh`
`22:50.43`	`jjg`	`devel : looks like a tight little unit. you just added the rj-11 breakout panel? then used cat-2 to connect it to the quintum?`
`22:51.08`	`devel`	`jjg, a few ax800 and some asm400/asm200. yep, pretty slick for what it does.`
`22:51.22`	`dijungal`	`skram: i would think so... i am using the root password`
`22:52.04`	`jjg`	`devel : not familiar with those terms can you elaborate a bit?`
`22:52.44`	`devel`	`jjg, the asm are smaller units, 2 port and 4 port.`
`22:53.06`	`jjg`	`devel : ah.`
`22:56.47`	`jjg`	`devel : ever pushed 24 calls through the ax800?`
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`22:57.44`	`devel`	`no.`
`22:58.24`	`jjg`	`devel : ever deployed it in a pay to talk situation post or pre paid?`
`22:58.54`	`devel`	`jjg, no, this is strictly inter-office`
`22:59.14`	`jjg`	`devel : ok, thanks`
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`23:00.52`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`dijungal, one suggestion: don't use mysql`
`23:01.10`	`_ioscanner`	`anyone know if cisco 7912 using the same firmware as 7960?`
`23:01.11`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Another: what "root password" exactly?`
`23:01.34`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`on many distros the mysql root's password is empty by default`
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`23:02.49`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`on debian there is a specian mysql superuser whose name and password is used if you use the config file from /etc/mysql`
`23:03.00`	`joe`	`_ioscanner: show version`
`23:03.01`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`(useful for scripts)`
`23:03.48`	`joe`	`tzafrir_laptop: why not use mysql if I may ask?`
`23:03.58`	`_ioscanner`	`P0S-7-2-00`
`23:04.13`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`and anyway, you're not using the right syntax.`
`23:04.49`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`joe, mysql does too many things backwards. The need for a password for just about anything is one.`
`23:05.01`	`joe`	`dijungal: mysql -uroot -p`
`23:06.07`	`joe`	`tzafrir_laptop: what does it do backwards? Depends on how you configure the privileges and the client ability and possibility to connect`
`23:06.10`	`nDuff`	`Some of my users have claimed that when they call folks offsite with 2-line caller ID phones, they're getting the name of my company as the 2nd line rather than the name that's in the callerid line in sip.conf. This is a particularly Bad Thing since several of these users don't work for my company, but rather a nonprofit we're giving building space and phone service to. Connection to the outside world is via a PRI; in zapata.conf, usecallerid=y`
`23:06.10`	`nDuff`	`es and callerid is unset for the channels going to the PRI. Suggestions?`
`23:06.42`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`joe, but if both are local users, requireing a password increases insecurity`
`23:06.59`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Not to mention increasing setup cost`
`23:07.00`	`JakBeatZ`	`Hey, anyone know why I'm getting this: "Aug 9 18:49:58 [asterisk] WARNING[5619]: chan_iax2.c:9328 in load_module: Unable to open IAX timing interface: Permission denied_"? I upgraded from 1.0.9 (via Gentoo portage) to CVS-HEAD from source and now I get this error. Using 2.6.10 and bristuff for the zaprtc. I recompiled the zaprtc stuff after I build the new zaptel, libpri and asterisk`
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`23:07.25`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`bristuff and CVS HEAD?`
`23:07.34`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I'm looking for something like this`
`23:07.40`	`JakBeatZ`	`Wiki said it has to do with the timing, but as far as I can see I've done everything right and re-loaded the correct modules.. lsmod shows zaprtc and zaptel`
`23:07.57`	`JakBeatZ`	`yes, bristuff and CVS HEAD`
`23:08.19`	`JakBeatZ`	`bristuff 0.1.0 though, not 0.2.0-RC`
`23:08.20`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`you don't need zaprtc on 2.6.`
`23:08.32`	`_ioscanner`	`So anyone know if same SIP firmware works on 7912?`
`23:08.40`	`joe`	`tzafrir_laptop: <shrug> I'll agree to disagree I guess. I don't understand your point`
`23:08.43`	`_ioscanner`	`I don't see anything on wiki`
`23:08.43`	`JakBeatZ`	`I thought there were issues with devfs with 2.6 so you had to use zaprtc`
`23:08.45`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`bristuff 0.1.0 is probably ancient. What version of HEAD?`
`23:08.52`	`JakBeatZ`	`today's head`
`23:08.58`	`JakBeatZ`	`it doesn't have a version..`
`23:09.04`	`JakBeatZ`	`show version just shows CVS-HEAD`
`23:09.05`	`JakBeatZ`	`?`
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`23:09.21`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: It should show a date and time too`
`23:09.21`	`dijungal`	`i'm having some trouble connecting firefly to asterisk`
`23:09.29`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`There is a newer version of bristuff for HEAD from 2005-05-29 . Still not recent enough`
`23:09.50`	`JakBeatZ`	`Asterisk CVS-HEAD built by root@ricky on a i686 running Linux on 2005-08-09 18:40:42 UTC`
`23:10.31`	`JakBeatZ`	`What do ppl use in 2.6 if you zaprtc isn't required for timing?`
`23:10.34`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`I'm currently trying zaptel from HEAD with bristuff RC2n. Seems ot basically work (I didn't use the Makefile patching)`
`23:10.45`	`JakBeatZ`	`I need timing for meetme.`
`23:10.54`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`ztdummy of 2.6 works rather well`
`23:11.13`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`Basically works somewhat like zaprtc (somewhat)`
`23:11.16`	`JakBeatZ`	`ManxPower: BTW: Things are working MUCH better since CVS-HEAD from 1.0.9.. thanks for the pointer.. I didn't know portage version was so old`
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`23:11.48`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`What's the portage version?`
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`23:12.31`	`JakBeatZ`	`portage version is 1.0.9`
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`23:13.03`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`1.0.9 is not "ancient". It is "current" (barring 1.0.9.1 for zaptel)`
`23:13.38`	`Sedorox`	`before now... portage was at... 1.0.5 I think`
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`23:14.09`	`JakBeatZ`	`portage was at .7 and .8 as well.. dunno about .6 thought, but .5 definitely`
`23:14.13`	`ManxPower`	`JakBeatZ: it's not. 1.0.9 is a bugfix only.`
`23:14.47`	`JerJer`	`1.0.9 is simply some point in time where only bug fixes will go in`
`23:14.49`	`ManxPower`	`CVS-HEAD is the developement version. It may or may not work and may or may not even compile depending on when you get the code.`
`23:14.50`	`Sedorox`	`I was waiting on 1.0.9 in portage to upgrade.. but since 1.2 is being relased.. I'm just gonna wait`
`23:14.55`	`JerJer`	`however 1.0.9 has serious issues`
`23:15.04`	`Xeaded`	`Does anyone know how to get callerid to show up with a Mediatrix 1204? It only shows up with the unit's agent name.`
`23:15.24`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`JerJer, something handled in v1-0 or something that won't?`
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`23:17.17`	`Hmmhesays`	`i'm a cowboy, on a steel horse I ride, cause I'm wanted WANTED dead or alive`
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`23:17.43`	`Superman`	`whoa`
`23:18.19`	`Hmmhesays`	`i've seen a million faces... AND I'VE ROCKED THEM ALL`
`23:18.55`	`JerJer`	`I walk these streets, a loaded six string on my back`
`23:19.17`	`gambolputty`	`Anyone worked with app_devstate before?`
`23:19.31`	`Hmmhesays`	`and I play for keeps, cause I might not make it back`
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`23:19.54`	`Uberbot`	`Is anyone using Asterisk for caller id and MythTv together?`
`23:20.23`	`Ariel_`	`Uberbot, you mean on same server? or sending info to your tv screen?`
`23:20.58`	`tzafrir_laptop`	`JerJer, could you please be more specific about the 1.0.9 issues? something that is for v1-0 or not?`
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`23:24.29`	`Darwin35`	`its in the wikik`
`23:24.49`	`Darwin35`	`and I have it somewhere in my files also`
`23:27.52`	`Darwin35`	`;[mythtv]`
`23:27.52`	`Darwin35`	`;exten => s,1,System(/usr/bin/mythtvosd --template=/root/mythtv/mythtv/programs/mythtvosd/cid.xml --caller_name="${CALLERID}" --caller_number="${CALLERIDNUM}" --caller_date="${DATETIME}")`
`23:27.52`	`Darwin35`	`;exten => s,2,Wait(1)`
`23:27.52`	`Darwin35`	`;exten => s,3,Dial(Zap/1\|20) ; Calls channel 1`
`23:28.08`	`Hmmhesays`	`no one can save me the damage is done!`
`23:28.09`	`Darwin35`	`grrr`
`23:28.13`	`Hmmhesays`	`shot through the heart!`
`23:29.20`	`Darwin35`	`I shot the sherrif but I did not shot the deputy`
`23:30.13`	`Hmmhesays`	`I scared anthm off with my bon jovisms`
`23:30.28`	`skram\|`	`whats mythtv`
`23:30.34`	`Darwin35`	`its like tevo`
`23:30.38`	`Darwin35`	`but opensrc`
`23:30.42`	`Darwin35`	`and beetter`
`23:30.51`	`skram\|`	`and it has to do with asterisk?`
`23:31.10`	`Darwin35`	`asterisk can display caller id on the tv scrren`
`23:31.50`	`Darwin35`	`so while your watching tv you can see who calls in big type on the tv screen`
`23:31.55`	`skram\|`	`rock on`
`23:32.03`	`Darwin35`	`and desided not to answer it`
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`23:32.28`	`skram\|`	`if only i had a spare box with a tv tuner ...`
`23:32.43`	`Superman`	`sounds great ... to have video integrated with the phone call`
`23:32.45`	`Superman`	`great idea`
`23:33.07`	`Darwin35`	`it has vidoe conf built in also`
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`23:33.36`	`_ioscanner`	`anyone has a cisco 7912 sip image?`
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`23:33.58`	`_ioscanner`	`it will take 3 days for cisco to fix my access...doh`
`23:33.59`	`Darwin35`	`7912 ?`
`23:34.18`	`Darwin35`	`wich one is that`
`23:34.23`	`_ioscanner`	`Yes just got a new 7912 phone and I would liek to test it`
`23:34.40`	`_ioscanner`	`cisco 7912G 2 line phone with display and extra PC port`
`23:34.43`	`Darwin35`	`what does it come default with`
`23:34.48`	`_ioscanner`	`sccp`
`23:34.54`	`Darwin35`	`then setup sccp`
`23:35.06`	`Darwin35`	`get it build it and install it`
`23:35.28`	`_ioscanner`	`I would rather use SIP`
`23:35.45`	`_ioscanner`	`I just don't want to wait 3 days for my access to get fixed`
`23:36.05`	`Darwin35`	`now thats lame`
`23:36.15`	`Darwin35`	`test with sccp then move to siip ltr`
`23:36.16`	`_ioscanner`	`looks like cisco had the auth hacked on the site so the reset everyone and I never saw the e-mail`
`23:37.41`	`_ioscanner`	`that would require me to change the production build of asterisk...can't do that until Sunday`
`23:37.54`	`_ioscanner`	`it can't be added as a module can it?`
`23:38.16`	`_ioscanner`	`or do you have to patch and reinstall asterisk?`
`23:38.31`	`Darwin35`	`what adding sccp`
`23:38.34`	`Darwin35`	`its a addon`
`23:38.47`	`Darwin35`	`and skinny is built in`
`23:38.49`	`_ioscanner`	`doesn't require a rebuild`
`23:38.53`	`Darwin35`	`no`
`23:38.58`	`ManxPower`	`SCCP is the same protocol as Skinny`
`23:39.05`	`Darwin35`	`no its a little diff`
`23:39.20`	`Darwin35`	`some phones are supported by sccp that skinny does not`
`23:40.13`	`Darwin35`	`like sccp supports the 7920 where last I checked skinny had issues`
`23:43.53`	`hardwire`	`having them call me`
`23:43.55`	`hardwire`	`aren't I a stinker?`
`23:44.03`	`glm2k`	`anyone know where i can download clidtest?`
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`23:44.22`	`Ariel_`	`do how is everyone doing this evening?`
`23:44.32`	`glm2k`	`google's recommended link from linux-support.net doesn't want me to download heh`
`23:45.08`	`Ariel_`	`glm2k, sup`
`23:45.16`	`Nugget`	`dang. I was just about to give you shit for not trying google. :)`
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`23:46.03`	`Nugget`	`although using that hit as a springboard to then google for "clidtest.tgz" is golden.`
`23:47.03`	`Ariel_`	`~weather ktmb`
`23:47.22`	`Ariel_`	`they lie....`
`23:48.20`	`Ariel_`	`it's raining cats & dogs outside...`
`23:48.40`	`glm2k`	`Nugget: hehe.`
`23:48.50`	`Maxx4life`	`~weather lax`
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`23:49.02`	`glm2k`	`lol. LAX doesn't exist.`
`23:49.03`	`glm2k`	`nice`
`23:49.06`	`Ariel_`	`it's klax`
`23:49.12`	`Maxx4life`	`~weather klax`
`23:49.20`	`Maxx4life`	`Ariel: Thats better....`
`23:49.45`	`Maxx4life`	`Was about to ask what happend to LAX`
`23:50.08`	`Ariel_`	`it uses the airport weather system from noa`
`23:50.24`	`Maxx4life`	`Ahhhh`
`23:50.36`	`Maxx4life`	`I was thinking airport codes...`
`23:50.37`	`Ariel_`	`so you have to ask it via actuall airport 4 letter code.`
`23:51.25`	`Ariel_`	`Maxx4life, yes but the actuall code is 4 letters instead of 3. noa is international`
`23:51.38`	`Nugget`	`If you want to be really leet, ask jbot for metar instead of weather. Nothing like industry jargon to get the brain going.`
`23:52.03`	`Ariel_`	`Nugget, can it translate it to real weather?`
`23:52.10`	`ataraxis`	`~weather ETIE`
`23:52.18`	`Maxx4life`	`jbot: What is metar?`
`23:52.19`	`jbot`	`Maxx4life: I think you lost me on that one`
`23:52.21`	`Nugget`	`~metar kaus`
`23:52.21`	`Ariel_`	`I was going to take a flight but weather sucks right now.`
`23:52.39`	`ataraxis`	`:(`
`23:52.40`	`Maxx4life`	`well then....`
`23:52.41`	`Nugget`	`If you can't make sense of that then you're clearly too lame to be able to handle the weather. :)`
`23:54.00`	`Ariel_`	`wind is from 100 at 7 knots 10 visiable weith few clouds at 4500 feet`
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`23:54.10`	`Ariel_`	`it's easy to read`
`23:54.26`	`Strom_C`	`hello phreaks`
`23:54.40`	`Nugget`	`4500 AGL or 4500 absolute? :)`
`23:55.22`	`Katty`	`query. if i boot from a live cd (suse), will i get a pretty good idea if i can get my hardware to work with it?`
`23:55.25`	`Maxx4life`	`Storm_c: hello`
`23:55.28`	`Ariel_`	`above ground level`
`23:55.35`	`Strom_C`	`Maxx4life, I am not a weather pattern`
`23:55.55`	`Maxx4life`	`Very good too know`
`23:55.58`	`Ariel_`	`live suse....hummm your better off with the Mepis live cd`
`23:56.03`	`Strom_C`	`s t r o m`
`23:56.06`	`Strom_C`	`the o follows the r`
`23:56.10`	`Strom_C`	`;)`
`23:56.23`	`BhaalWK`	`And tomorrow we can expect to see a Strom_C coming in from the west...`
`23:56.25`	`skram\|`	`Nugget, was 'kaus' random or are you in the Cen-Tex area?`
`23:56.27`	`glm2k`	`I've heard good things about Mepis, how does it compare to knoppix ?`
`23:56.28`	`Maxx4life`	`heh...Didn't see I mispelled your name`
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`23:57.03`	`Nugget`	`I live in austin`
`23:57.07`	`Ariel_`	`glm2k, do not know knoppix but it's a good debian build for desktop.`
`23:57.23`	`BhaalWK`	`Mmmmmm Debian`
`23:57.30`	`DonX`	`DFW buddddy!`
`23:57.38`	`SkramX`	`Nugget: Cool, Cool.`
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`23:58.11`	`RCAM`	`Howdy kids!`
`23:58.16`	`Maxx4life`	`Howdy`
`23:58.17`	`glm2k`	`interesting...knoppix was one of the first i ever tried. haven't had the need to run a live cd lately though`
`23:58.27`	`DonX`	`Texans on IRC are muliplying. What has this world come to`
`23:58.41`	`DonX`	`multiplying even`
`23:58.55`	`Ariel_`	`texan's hummmmmm it's just mis pronounced fro TEJAS.`
`23:58.56`	`SkramX`	`haha, DonX`
`23:59.14`	`RCAM`	`Seems lots of new terminiation services are poping up. Any recommendations?`
`23:59.18`	`Maxx4life`	`Need to Ban the state of Texas.....`
`23:59.39`	`Maxx4life`	`rcam, what kind of term?`
`23:59.51`	`SkramX`	`And for you non-spanish speaking phreaks, its pronounced Teh-Haas (in Spanish a J is pronounced as an H in the English language)`
`23:59.55`	`RCAM`	`Maxx4life VOIP... IAX... Like Nufone.`

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