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00:00.02darwin35puppies
00:00.04tzangerQwell: you're seriously paranoid
00:00.08darwin35marbles
00:00.19geesuselric: thanks!
00:00.20tzangergod damn this song owns
00:00.30Qwelltzanger: walk like an egyptian? :)
00:00.34tzangerstevie ray vaughan playing little wing
00:00.36tzangerQwell: heh
00:00.42QwellJust when you thought that song was out of your head too. ;]
00:00.49tzangerlistening to a really good blues tune
00:00.51darwin35Open your eyes to life and look at all the wouderull colors the gods gave us.........
00:00.57tzangernah bangles won't get in my head with this in my head
00:01.06tzangerI swear I'll play like that some day
00:01.22darwin35tz whats up
00:01.37tzangerdarwin35: nada, just chillin
00:01.55tzangerwas out partying all weekend, took off a day early so I could get rested :-)
00:02.04darwin35well it took 2 days but got chan_sccp to compiile and work on bsd
00:02.09tzangerI'm seriously sunburnt too
00:02.15darwin35ouch
00:02.19tzangerdarwin35: you've been far more productive than me
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00:02.52tzangerI've managed to drink a lot of alcohol, soak my ass in vodka, get sunburnt, get out of my tree on shrooms and just basically have a hell of a good time
00:02.54blitzragetzanger: you ever used regcontext ?
00:03.05blitzragetzanger: nice!
00:03.07tzangerblitzrage: would you be surprised if I said no?
00:03.12blitzragetzanger: yes - I would
00:03.22blitzragetzanger: I finally tried schrooms the other day too :)
00:03.36tzangerI am fairly adept at regexps but not in an asterisk sense
00:03.45darwin35http://205.188.234.65:8022 great music
00:03.52tzangerPete_Largo: you're seriously paranoid too
00:03.55blitzragetzanger: regcontexts are not like regular expressions :)
00:04.05tzangermy passwords are typically alphanumeric and that's it
00:04.12Pete_Largojust cause I'm paranoid doesn't meant they aren't out to get me :p
00:04.15tzangeryou still will have an interesting time bruteforcing though
00:04.18blitzrageall my passwords are 'welcome' :)
00:04.20tzangerfar easier just rooting it somehow
00:04.27tzangeror breaking in and stealing the box
00:04.39Pete_Largowhy be difficult, when with a little effort you can be impossible
00:04.48darwin35Austionurosis
00:04.53tzangerahh
00:04.55tzangerdigitally imported
00:04.59darwin35yes
00:05.06tzangerI have a bunch of their urls in scripts
00:05.09tzangerbut I'm not into trance right now
00:05.27tzangerdarwin35: which "channel" is this one
00:05.29tzangerthis isn't bad
00:05.36tzangerI don't wanna be relaxed on thsi though
00:05.36darwin35it cill music
00:05.38tzangerI want blues
00:05.41darwin35chill
00:05.48tzangerI've got lots of alcohol to go thorugh and I don't get drunk on trance
00:05.52tzangerI could get high on trance though
00:06.00tzangerbut when I'm camping I don't listen to trance
00:06.05darwin35this is lowkey not trance
00:06.17tzangerdarwin35: it's trance-y to me
00:06.19darwin35its the chillout stream
00:06.23tzangerok
00:06.29tzangerit is good though
00:06.35darwin35they have multi streams
00:06.41tzangeryup I know
00:06.51tzangerblitzrage: I have never had my reality fuse pulled before
00:07.03tzangerapparently I didn't take enough shrooms to get the psychadelic side of it though
00:07.08tzangerjust the total disconnection
00:07.12Pete_Largogeez, this one is so difficult I wont even be able to guess it in 3 tries :D
00:07.33tzangerblitzrage: it was fun but at the end I just wanted reality back :-)
00:07.36blitzragetzanger: yah, I just felt drunk and very sensitive to sound :)
00:08.01darwin35http://rs4.radiostreamer.com:9230
00:08.05tzangerI need to "disconnect" like that sometimes but I hate the feeling of "ok, when can I get back to my regularly scheduled reality?"
00:08.07darwin35there is one for you
00:08.13blitzragetzanger: I took very few - no where near the psychadelic effect - just wanted it to be very mild the first couple of times to get an idea of what it felt like
00:08.16tzangerI get paranoid and I focus on my kids to try and bring me back
00:08.35blitzragetzanger: yah, getting paranoid on schrooms is a bad idea :)
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00:08.44tzangerblitzrage: take sliced mushrooms at the grocery store, I had about 2 of those-sized I think
00:08.46darwin35what where when how who who with for what reason
00:09.00iheartcanadacan i use asterisk to make programmatic calls?
00:09.04blitzragetzanger: I only took about a gram or so
00:09.06tzangerI get paranoid on any drug, I feel like I fucked up and I start second-guessing which reality I am supposed to be returning to
00:09.11iheartcanadalike how spammers leave voice messages on my machine?
00:09.12tzangerthis was way more than a gram
00:09.19darwin35I am not paranoid I am over caushes
00:09.27tzangertasted like really flavourless dried apples
00:09.30blitzragetzanger: grind them up, put them on a fold piece of paper, slide into mouth, drink lots of water - no icky taste! :)
00:09.44tzangerbut I was really drunk too so I don't have a clear idea on the taste
00:09.48blitzragelol
00:09.53tzangerblitzrage: oh fuck endure a little pain to get the full effect :-)
00:09.55blitzragegood - they don't taste good :)
00:10.06tzangersame with tattoos, the pain is part of the process
00:10.08darwin35Reallity is only what you make it so how do you know yoour not dreaming now
00:10.16tzangerdarwin35: that was teh problem
00:10.17blitzragetzanger: I almost fell a sleep when I got my tattoo :)
00:10.24tzangerblitzrage: :-)
00:10.36blitzragetzanger: but I got it in a pussy spot - on my arm
00:10.36tzangerdarwin35: I knew it was not the right reality because my daughter wasn't there
00:10.40darwin35I am aout to have my full back done
00:10.50tzangerblitzrage: I'm getting a good solid black tribal tattoo armband
00:10.56tzangerall the way around
00:11.01darwin35and I want to slip into another world
00:11.10blitzragetzanger: cool, thats what my friend did for his first tattoo - now he has a ton
00:11.23blitzragewhy oh why did I quit smoking weed? :)
00:11.24darwin35I have 6 so far
00:11.42blitzragedamn this regcontext, no idea how to get it to do anything...
00:11.43darwin35and a few piercings
00:11.47tzangerhttp://www.mixdown.ca/~andrew/photos-old/mytat/
00:11.51tzangerthat's the kind of ideas
00:11.53tzangernot the "other"
00:11.54tzangerbut below that
00:11.57Damindarwin35: I just took a couple of antihistamine / decongestant blockers.. In about an hour, I'll be slipping into another world.. a very bizzare world of sleep and mild hallucinations..
00:12.08tzangerthe third one is about the closes to what I'm trying to describe
00:12.16blitzragedon't ever take 6 Contact C's
00:12.19tzangerDamin: :-)
00:12.23blitzrageunless you want to take a trip the next day
00:12.31Damindarwin35: Drugstore Decongestants really screw with my brain..
00:12.40tzangerblitzrage: hahaha... I took 6 robaxacet once because I was out of it (just tired) when I read the directions
00:12.47tzangerit's 4 every 6 hours not 6 every 4 :-)
00:12.54darwin35My back is going to take 2 hours just for the outline
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00:13.08DaminMr. Todd!
00:13.08blitzragejtodd: the man I need to talk to!
00:13.11darwin35and about  2 months to color in and heal
00:13.20blitzragedarwin35: and lots of $$$ :)
00:13.25tzangerI didn't lose control of the bowels but the regular "arms feel like jello" feeling is *NOTHING* compared to that
00:13.30jtoddUh oh.  What did I do this time?  :-)
00:13.31blitzragejtodd: are you actually here, or just your IRC client? :)
00:13.35darwin35it paid for
00:13.39tzangerdarwin35: wow
00:13.46tzangerI partied with a tattoo artist in Toronto this weekend
00:13.49Daminjtodd: You planning on stopping by the Digium booth? :)
00:13.49jtoddblitzrage: On the Internet, nobody can tell you're just an IRC client.
00:14.01tzangerhe had some serious art as well as 2 of those eyelets in both ears
00:14.06jtoddYep, I'll be stopping by the booth, of course.
00:14.10jtoddI can help out if required...
00:14.14darwin35I setup his house wnad office with wireless and worked on his car
00:14.25darwin35wnad and
00:14.27Daminjtodd: We can use all the help we can get.. :)
00:14.42jtoddC'mon... Digium is like an EMPIRE these days!   :-)
00:14.48blitzragejtodd: since I saw you talking about regcontext= in a thread, and I have no idea how to get it to work - or what it does - would you mind enlightening me? I'm trying to document it
00:14.51tzangerDamin: don't be silly, you guys are beyond help :-)
00:15.00jtoddPractically ARMIES of minons there at Digium...  :-)
00:15.05Daminjtodd: Yah, but the ISPcon booth is going to be like a ghetto tradshow booth.. :)
00:15.13darwin35I just wish they would fix the chan issue with sip
00:15.27tzangerwow I'm running a loadavg of 2.0 with this raid5 resync + copy in the background
00:15.40darwin35file what now
00:15.46fileoh, nothing
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00:15.57darwin35spill it young man
00:16.00blitzragetzanger: mines at 3.0 for some reason
00:16.01Daminjtodd Should I add you to the ispcon volunteers mailing list?
00:16.43darwin35my load avg on bsd is 1.5 on bsd
00:16.55jtoddblitzrage: the regcontext stuff is for creating pseudo-triggers if a SIP peer is registered or not (well, I've only ever used it with SIP - not sure if it exists with IAX..)
00:16.55darwin35with poostgress and asterisk
00:17.13jtodddamin: Sure, put me on the volunteer list for Wednesday.  I have my talk at 4:15-5:15....
00:17.14Damindarwin35: Well, then what is your bsd load average when your bsd is on acid?
00:17.19darwin35I need a good page on how to put the dial plan into a db
00:17.22fileyay acid
00:17.34blitzragejtodd: hrmmmm... I can't seem to get it to do anything in sip.conf
00:17.35Daminjtodd: Looks like Tuesday night might be Dinner and Drinks on Digium night.. ;)
00:17.57darwin35MDA
00:18.02blitzrageI have regcontext=registered-phones and [registered-phones] in extensions.conf - and its empty - am I missing something obvious?
00:18.23QwellDamin: For all of #asterisk? :)
00:18.32jtoddblitzrage: err.. yes, it's a bit more complex than that.
00:18.45blitzragejtodd: oh yah? documentation is lacking on the feature :)
00:18.48jtoddblitzrage: actually, now that I peek at it, the stuff on voip-info is fairly explanitory.
00:18.50fileit's always mor ecomplex
00:18.54fileer more complex
00:18.57jtoddblitzrage: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+sip+regcontext
00:19.02blitzragejtodd: really? oh nice
00:19.04blitzragejtodd: thanks
00:19.06darwin35is there a good dial plan to db page anywhere
00:19.18Qwell!google realtime dialplan
00:19.19Qwell~google realtime dialplan
00:19.42Qwelllast link and second to last link
00:20.03darwin35ok
00:20.25xhelioxI :heart: that wiki
00:20.31blitzragejtodd: aha! thanks so much
00:20.42tzangerxheliox: you're a sick sick puppy
00:20.47tzangermost of us curse it
00:21.09jtoddblitzrage: actually, I've only found the regcontext stuff to be marginally useful.
00:21.23jtoddblitzrage: a lookup in the astdb would probably serve better.
00:21.40blitzragejtodd: but you could configure it to do a DBGet() right?
00:21.58blitzragejtodd: errr... Set(${DB(family/key)}) :)
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00:22.54xhelioxtzanger: what's wrong with it?
00:23.03jtoddblitzrage: yeah, look up the SIP entry in the AstDB with DB(/SIP/Registry/${EXTEN}) to see if there is a value.
00:23.09blitzragejtodd: have you seen bug 3626
00:23.16jtoddblitzrage: do a "database show" to get the format, I guess.
00:23.20jtoddblitzrage: no, give me a minute.
00:23.20DaminIf anyone else can make it to Baltimore, we have a couple more exhibitor passes to give away..
00:23.33blitzragejtodd: looks cool to me
00:24.02fileexhibitor passes are nice
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00:24.22Daminfile: Yes they are.. The first TWO volunteers, however, got FULL conference passes..
00:24.29filethat's nice
00:24.30tzangerone of the guys we were camping with had a moose call with him
00:24.35tzangerevery time he used it I felt like humping something
00:24.37Daminfile: And I have the ability to give away a third FULL conference pass...
00:24.45fileDamin: very good indeed
00:24.58jtoddblitzrage: yes, it does look very interesting.  Still, it's kind of crude - I prefer methods to examine state on individual entities, instead of creating/destroying/hiding parts of the dialplan.  I suppose both methods work.
00:27.09blitzragejtodd: true - I like the idea because I was thinking about how to control what I advertised in DUNDi - and that was just the ticket. Unfortunately looks like kpfleming got busy and couldn't finish it
00:27.17jtoddblitzrage: I'd rather have the ability to examine the status of a SIP/IAX/Zap/etc. "channel" or "channel group" from within the dialplan by means of a variable rather than having a context that magically appears/disappears.
00:27.21tzangerblitzrage: ?
00:27.37tzangerI've not used dundi but can't you just restrict what you advertize to a specific context?
00:27.50blitzragejtodd: I just found that bug when I was looking for the original regcontext bug, but never found it
00:28.13blitzragetzanger: yes, but if a peer goes down, then you're still advertising a route
00:28.28tzangerok sure, but it'll still fail nicely
00:28.30blitzragetzanger: i.e. your PRI goes down - you're still saying you can route to it
00:28.39blitzragetzanger: but you shouldn't advertise that which you can't rute
00:28.40blitzrageroute*
00:28.43tzangeri.e. you'll get a call and your DIal() will fail, which will parse back up nicely
00:28.52tzangertrue enough
00:28.55blitzragetzanger: but you're still advertising the route :)
00:29.11tzangerblitzrage: this could be solved in a more general sense with qualify rules
00:29.26blitzragetzanger: thats basically what 3626 was doing
00:29.27tzangerwhere you can execute contexts when qualify fails/returns
00:29.36blitzragetzanger: yep, exactly! :)
00:29.40tzangerahh
00:29.44tzangerdamn I'm psychic
00:29.44blitzragetzanger: not sure how to do that now though
00:29.48blitzragetzanger: heh :)
00:29.54blitzragetzanger: good mushroom residue
00:30.04tzangerhahaha
00:30.08tzangernah it's the vodka
00:30.17blitzragetzanger: I should go and start drinking my room mates beer
00:30.25blitzragejtodd: yah, that would be useful
00:30.27tzangerno beer just makes you gassy
00:30.32tzangergo after the hard stuff
00:30.33blitzragetzanger: too late
00:30.57blitzragetzanger: don't think I have any hard liquor here right now - only got $20 to my name for a few more days until some cheques clear
00:31.04tzangerblitzrage: ahh
00:31.05filepoor blitzrage
00:31.06tzangerlater
00:32.03Juggietzanger, Episode 2 is on in HD go watch that :)
00:32.48blitzrageugh... star wars sucks
00:33.01fileand not in the good way
00:33.02dml337irawha? really?
00:33.24blitzragefile: heh... true :)
00:33.36dml337iradang...
00:33.43Daminblitzrage: Speaking of hard liqour...
00:34.39blitzrageDamin: yah, go get yourself some
00:34.58Daminhttp://www.geohashing.net/astricon.jpg
00:34.58filedrink some for me too
00:35.03Juggiewell at least fox is broadcasting this one in HD
00:35.10Juggieas opposed to last week
00:35.21blitzrageFOX is the republican propaganda machine
00:35.32dml337iraand we luv it too
00:35.36Daminblitzrage: Notice the bottle of Jack Daniels on the nightstand that is completely empty? :)
00:35.46blitzrageDamin: lol!!!
00:35.53blitzrageDamin: wow, I look uber freaky in that pic
00:36.04Juggiehah, u guys are way too close :)
00:36.05fileblitzrage is scary!!!
00:36.16fileor, not close enough
00:36.47Qwellok, from left to right, top to bottom, who is who? :p
00:36.53Qwelland why are you all chilling on a bed?..
00:36.57Juggieyeah
00:37.04blitzrageQwell: that was our hotel room
00:37.05Juggiesomething about a bunch of guys drunk in a hotel room, all on one bed
00:37.09Juggiethats just not cool ;)
00:37.09DaminQwell: That was my Hotel room at Astricon, the night before Mark's keynote..
00:37.14filetechnically it was an orgy
00:37.15QwellYou all shared a room?
00:37.20dml337iraum...
00:37.21blitzrageQwell: lol... not all of us
00:37.25dml337iraabout that pic....
00:37.37QwellSo, who's gonna give names?  heh
00:37.40dml337irano chics at astricon?
00:37.44Qwelldml337ira: not a single one
00:37.47blitzragedml337ira: lol... I think there were 2
00:37.48Juggiegirls dont program :)
00:37.51dml337iradang...
00:37.57DaminMark Spencer, BKW,...Twisted...
00:38.04DaminDerrick...
00:38.06blitzrageone of them was Allison, and one was some freaky hot chick
00:38.11dml337iranot that i have a problem with what goes on between consenting adults...
00:38.18DaminSome Digium guy.. (Matt?) Some other Digium guy (John?)
00:38.31fileyay Matttttt
00:38.33blitzrageyah, Matt Fredrickson in the brown shirt not looking at the cam
00:38.37Daminblitzrage: They weren't in that picture..
00:38.46blitzragelol, they certainly were not
00:38.49Juggiewhos the guy who thought it would be cool to wear a suit
00:38.57blitzragetwisted
00:38.58fileJosh aka twisted
00:39.06DaminWho is the guy on Mark's right doing the samba move w/ his left hand in the air?
00:39.06Juggieboo geeks dont wear suits ;)
00:39.13Juggiethe next time i wear a suit, i'll be getting married
00:39.17darwin35ok realtime is going to be fun
00:39.18filegood god I can just imagine at Cluecon, "Josh?" and then both of us look... now that'll be fun
00:39.22dml337iraJD and MOuntain dew... nice mix...
00:39.28darwin35I have to rewrite it for pgsql
00:39.34blitzrageDamin: not sure which one is Russell....
00:39.39DaminAnd who is the totally wasted guy in the white shirt??
00:39.46blitzrageDamin: I forget
00:39.56QwellWho's looking at pr0n on the mactop?
00:40.06Qwelllooks way too happy
00:40.07DaminThat's John from Digium..
00:40.18blitzrageDamin: so that must be Russell in the back ?
00:40.38Daminfile: Is that Russel in the back? I can't remember what he looks like..
00:40.50Juggiewas that pic taken on a film camera? its not too sharp when i view it full size
00:40.50dml337ira<crying>"Stay with me mom..."
00:40.50blitzrageDamin: me either, but I talk to him all the time - how embarressing :)
00:41.14fileDamin: yes that's Russell
00:41.37DaminJuggie: No.. a really dirty Canon Elph..
00:41.44DaminJuggie: In very low light..
00:41.48Juggieyah its out of focus
00:42.35DaminThe next morning at about 8:00, Derrick comes knocking on the door and is like. "Has anyone seen my shoes?"
00:42.49blitzrageDamin: that was hilarious!
00:43.00blitzrageI was still drunk for the first 4 hours after I woke up
00:43.08blitzrageand I had to do a talk that day in the afternoon
00:43.29Daminblitzrage: Check this one out: http://www.geohashing.net/astricon2.jpg
00:43.44Daminblitzrage: "The Happy Couple" ;)
00:43.51blitzrageDamin: lol
00:43.55filelooky it's Allison
00:43.56Juggiehah
00:43.59blitzrageDamin: good pic though
00:44.03Juggieshes older then him for sure
00:44.22DaminAllison was totally cool...
00:44.26blitzrageaye
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00:45.02blitzrageDamin: you going to make it to Astricon Europe?
00:45.07blitzrage- or anyone else for that matter
00:46.21Daminblitzrage: I'm afraid that Astricon Europe is out of the question for me.
00:46.40Daminblitzrage: However, Astricon USA and Fall VON are a go...
00:47.02fileand Cluecon!
00:47.04blitzrageDamin: nice! I'll see you at the Astricon's - not sure about VON (probably not)
00:47.20blitzrageDamin: I think fall Astricon is going to be in S.D.
00:47.27QwellSD?  random
00:47.30DaminSan Diego?
00:47.36QwellSouth Dakota?
00:47.37blitzrageDamin: aye
00:47.39Qwelloh
00:47.42blitzrageSan Diego
00:47.43Qwellhell, I'll go there
00:47.50DaminWhy oh Why would they choose that place?
00:47.58filehopefully it hasn't been chosen yet
00:47.59DaminAside from Cheap Airfare?
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00:48.31DaminOlle want to see the San Diego zoo or something?
00:48.41DaminAtlanta was good..
00:48.47geesusheh, my company has a lab in San Diego... wonder if they are going
00:49.06fileI wonder how much it would cost for my ticket
00:49.12QwellWhen is Astricon US?
00:49.33filetoo far in the future...
00:49.38QwellWhats it cost?
00:49.43blitzrageDamin: ummmm... I think it was cheap, had lots of wireless, big conference rooms...
00:49.45DaminSeptember / October I think..
00:50.03Daminblitzrage: OK.. well as long as Airfare is cheap..
00:50.12filenot cheap for me, HA
00:50.19blitzrageDamin: October I think
00:50.19Qwelldirt cheap for me
00:51.05blitzrageQwell: check astricon.net for an idea of cost
00:54.22Qwellnot bad
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00:59.39The_Dukehello, i have small problem with realtime, the mysql connection is up (according to realtime mysql status), i have configured extconfig.conf for voicemail via realtime as described on voip-info.org, but asterisk doesn't use mysql to find voicemailboxes...
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01:04.40brc_Silik0n, ude?
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01:11.20Pete_LargoI have another newbie question...
01:11.28blitzragenope, you've used your credits up for today
01:11.48Pete_Largomy SPA2000 is showing 'registration failed'  don't know why, I _think_ I set everything up ok for it to register...
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01:11.52blitzragemore credits can be purchased via paypay at leif@hacklocalhost.com :)
01:11.52SwKpurchasing further credits can be accomplished by paypaling me
01:11.58blitzrageSwK: too late :)
01:11.58Pete_Largodarn!  I thought I had a few more credits!
01:12.10SwKlooks like I was first on my client
01:12.19blitzrageSwK: 21:11 < blitzrage> more credits can be purchased via paypay at leif@hacklocalhost.com :)
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01:12.25blitzrage21:11 < SwK> purchasing further credits can be accomplished by paypaling me
01:12.29blitzrageheh :)
01:12.35SwK[S+Z] guugmember (~Casa@200.6.219.59) has joined channel #asterisk
01:12.35SwK<SwK> purchasing further credits can be accomplished by paypaling me
01:12.36SwK<blitzrage> more credits can be purchased via paypay at leif@hacklocalhost.com :)
01:12.38Pete_Largoyou guys are a riot, a regular laugh a minute
01:12.48blitzrageSwK: thanks for proving I was first :)
01:13.04SwKrea that again assmunch
01:13.15Pete_LargoI assume that Iraqi funds will be acceptable?
01:13.42blitzragePete_Largo: sure - just needs to add up for $10 per credit CAD - 3 credits per newbie question
01:13.50file-$100
01:13.53blitzragelol
01:14.38Pete_LargoHere is the relevant section of sip.conf...
01:14.39Pete_Largo[1002]
01:14.39Pete_Largotype=friend
01:14.40Pete_Largohost=dynamic
01:14.40Pete_Largocontext=
01:14.40Pete_Largosecret=mysecret1002
01:14.41Pete_Largocallerid="Ext 1002 <1002>
01:14.43Pete_Largomailbox=1002
01:14.45guugmemberwho knows a company with good reseller plans?
01:14.45Pete_Largodtmfmode=rfc2833
01:14.52Pete_Largoam I missing anything?
01:14.56SwKlevel3
01:14.57guugmemberI have clients in Central America with IAXys
01:15.59blitzragePete_Largo: you're missing a context to do something with the call
01:16.05Pete_LargoI know
01:16.15Pete_Largobut the SPA should still be able to register, right?
01:16.32blitzragePete_Largo: hrmmmm... yah, thats true
01:17.00blitzragePete_Largo: have you done a sip debug to determine where its failing?
01:17.13mepplgute nacht
01:17.17Pete_Largono sir, how do I accomplish that?
01:17.32blitzragesip debug
01:17.36blitzrageor
01:17.42blitzragesip debug ip xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
01:17.58Pete_Largois xxx.. the SPA or the *?
01:18.18blitzragethe SPA
01:20.21Pete_Largopossible flood...
01:20.23Pete_Largo---
01:20.23Pete_LargoTransmitting (no NAT) to 192.168.0.159:5060:
01:20.23Pete_LargoSIP/2.0 401 Unauthorized
01:20.23Pete_LargoVia: SIP/2.0/UDP 192.168.0.159:5060;branch=z9hG4bK-4d8ae506
01:20.23Pete_LargoFrom: 1002 <sip:1002@65.71.225.125>;tag=a194b34b4d859ffco1
01:20.24Pete_LargoTo: 1002 <sip:1002@65.71.225.125>;tag=as568e3e55
01:20.26Pete_LargoCall-ID: af6bc0d3-eb7ab014@192.168.0.159
01:20.28Pete_LargoCSeq: 17 REGISTER
01:20.32Pete_LargoUser-Agent: Asterisk PBX
01:20.34Pete_LargoAllow: INVITE, ACK, CANCEL, OPTIONS, BYE, REFER, NOTIFY
01:20.38Pete_LargoContact: <sip:1002@65.71.225.125>
01:20.40Pete_LargoWWW-Authenticate: Digest realm="asterisk", nonce="7daab792"
01:20.42Pete_LargoContent-Length: 0
01:20.44Pete_Largo...
01:20.46Pete_Largowow, no flood kick!
01:20.48SwKdood use a pastebin cause all that does is get you added to peopls flood fliters
01:21.09SwKpastebin.ca or something
01:21.10Pete_Largothat was helpful
01:21.14blitzrage~pastebin
01:21.15jbotpastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
01:21.40Pete_Largogeez, you sure are a sensitive bunch!  I'll use it next time
01:22.00blitzragePete_Largo: well, its not bad now when no one is around - but when there are multiple conversations going on, people get angry
01:22.23Pete_LargoI figured it was just small enough to slip under the radar, wont happen again
01:22.39geesusMy radar is onto you bitch! lol
01:22.59JohnsieHi folks.
01:23.12JohnsieHas anyone ever used Asterisk in a chrooted environment?
01:23.47geesusheh...
01:23.47Shame_On_Pete_Laso what does that debug stuff mean?
01:24.31ariel_Shame_On_Pete_La, you should add nat=yes and also what is your context= it should have a proper context.
01:24.59Shame_On_Pete_LaI haven't added a context yet, I just wanted to see the darn thing register for the first time.
01:25.28ariel_asterisk can't do much without it. also since your behind a nat and the asterisk server is not you should put nat=yes
01:26.05blitzragePete_Largo: for some reason I'm thinking you need to have a context for it to register...
01:26.24Pete_Largook, I'll try it that way
01:26.52MikeJ[Laptop]blitzrage!!!
01:27.06Pete_Largohow do I turn off sip debug?
01:27.13blitzragesip no debug
01:27.18blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: !!!
01:27.33Pete_Largothanks blitzrage
01:27.46blitzragePete_Largo: donations can be paypal'd to leif@hacklocalhost.com
01:28.10blitzragethat goes for all you leeches!
01:28.16blitzrage:D
01:28.18geesuswewt!
01:28.19blitzrageerr...
01:28.21blitzrage:|
01:28.22filelike me?
01:28.27blitzragefile: especially you
01:28.30geesusaparently the TDM400P is gonna get certed in the next few days
01:28.34fileooh espically me
01:28.40blitzragefile: wait, I'd probably owe YOU money :)
01:28.46geesusHi Paul,
01:28.47geesusThanks for your enquiry.
01:28.47geesusWe're expecting the certification process to be completed any day now. Please check our website, as an announcement will be made there.
01:28.50file:)
01:29.04Pete_Largowell, I figured out what I was doing wrong...
01:29.48Pete_LargoMy * server is on an external IP and my SPA is on a NAT'ed IP, I just added a virtual interface to the * server with a 192.168.0.0 address and now it is registered :)
01:30.08InfraRed192.168.0.0
01:30.45InfraReddepending on your subnet but in your case i'd say thats the network address
01:30.50Pete_Largoit is
01:31.08Pete_Largoso?
01:31.19InfraRedits wrong
01:31.23Pete_Largono it isn't
01:31.29Pete_Largothat's the network address
01:31.41InfraRedyou have a machine using the network address as ip?
01:31.45sudhir492Pete_Largo: You dont need to add any virtual interface to * with 192.168.0.0 SPA to register
01:31.45Pete_Largono!
01:31.59InfraRedok
01:31.59*** join/#asterisk jarrod (jarrod@t06700.humbled.org)
01:32.04Pete_LargoI added an address in that network
01:32.07Pete_Largoto the server
01:32.33InfraRedoh ok
01:33.03geesuswhoo! making my supplier sweat!
01:33.12Pete_Largoyes, sudfir492, I could have turned on NAT=yes, but isn't SIP allergic to NAT sometimes?  It's just easier to have a virtual interface.
01:33.21geesus"if you cant get a 6800gt in by monday dw about it ill get it somewhere else"
01:33.23Pete_Largoisn't it?
01:33.51SwKasterisk handles sip plus nat just fine... only issue is double nat causes a royal pain in the ass
01:34.24SwKsip client -> nat -> internet -> nat -> asterisk results in a ton of 1 way audio on a regular basis
01:34.36Pete_Largook, so then I don't need to worry about it?
01:34.52Pete_Largosince the server is on a public IP
01:34.53MikeJ[Laptop]double nat = double trouble... double mint gum
01:34.54Pete_Largo...
01:35.33blitzrageusing triple and quadruple NAT increases network security as hackers get confused and have no where they are in relation to your topology
01:35.44blitzragehave no idea where*
01:35.47*** join/#asterisk justnulling2 (justnullin@ool-18bab443.dyn.optonline.net)
01:36.10MikeJ[Laptop]security by obfsucation?
01:36.24blitzrageyou got it
01:36.33MikeJ[Laptop]in that case... there are all kinds of new dialplan security features coming out in asterisk 1.2
01:36.43blitzrageLOL
01:36.52Pete_Largolol
01:37.11MikeJ[Laptop]after 1.2 we need an obfuscated dialpan contest
01:37.53blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: I love how everyone is talking about changing the dialplan to some new scripting language - uh..... isn't that called AGI?
01:37.59MikeJ[Laptop]make a dialplan that does x, in less than 20 lines in the dialplan...
01:38.07MikeJ[Laptop]ummmm
01:38.08justnulling2what is "Found no matching peer or user for ..."
01:38.13MikeJ[Laptop]agi has it's issues
01:38.17geesusoh
01:38.20fileit means it found no matching peer or user, isn't that ironic?
01:38.24blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: I know - but why not just fix AGI? :)
01:38.27SwKjust write your dialplan in C and load it as a module
01:38.27geesusI thought you meant like who could have the whackiest dial plan
01:38.31MikeJ[Laptop]justnulling2, it means it hasn't found a peer or user.
01:38.45MikeJ[Laptop]geesus, yes.
01:38.53SwKwe already have the whackiest dialplans
01:38.54geesuslike id have one that uses external programs that check the alignment of the moon before forwarding calls onto managers
01:39.22Pete_Largoisn't that what most call centers do already geeus?
01:39.24MikeJ[Laptop]sure, but it should do the external check and parse the results in one dialplan line
01:39.28Pete_Largooops geesus
01:39.41MikeJ[Laptop]using exec and functions or somthin crazy
01:39.48Juggieblitzrage, agi works over some wacky session between asterisk and the agi script, its not the same as something directally embedded within asterisk, which woudnt have that layer to slow things down and add complexity
01:39.58MikeJ[Laptop]we need for loops
01:40.15MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
01:40.37justnulling2kikej: why didn't it find it? i have register => user:pass@host/ext and ext is a vaild extention in extetention.conf
01:40.46fileyou silly silly people
01:40.56filewe need to write our dialplans in .NET stuff!
01:41.00fileobviously!
01:41.07Juggiethere is already a res_js
01:41.08MikeJ[Laptop]kikej... is that an anti-semetic thing, wtf ..
01:41.11SwKyeah C#
01:41.17fileJuggie: shhhhhhhhhh
01:41.31MikeJ[Laptop]res_pearl.
01:41.32SwKF@res_js and f@res_perl
01:41.36MikeJ[Laptop]perl
01:41.37MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
01:41.40fileres_perl yes
01:41.44justnulling2mikej: no just a misspel
01:41.46SwKi'm not writting reports with my dialplan
01:41.48MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
01:42.05SwKnext someone will say "res_cobol" or "res_jcl"
01:42.12MikeJ[Laptop]justnulling2, register is to tell somthing where you are, that has nothing to do with matching a peer on inbound call
01:42.25MikeJ[Laptop]whistle louder..
01:42.36filewhistling loud is overrated
01:42.43cjkFATAL: Error inserting ztdummy (/lib/modules/2.6.7-1-386/extra/ztdummy.ko): Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg)
01:42.44SwKor even better "res_rpg"
01:42.49cjkanyone seen this?
01:42.49MikeJ[Laptop]so is white water rafting
01:42.54blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: we have While() :)
01:43.00MikeJ[Laptop]SwK, rpg... I like rpg
01:43.08MikeJ[Laptop]ahh... brings me back
01:43.13SwKMikeJ[Laptop] as in Report Generation Language
01:43.15filehollaback girl!
01:43.23justnulling2mikej: isn't the part of registry syntax at the end after / tells what extention it should use?
01:43.32MikeJ[Laptop]used to do a lot of rpg IV on the as400
01:43.38SwKhah
01:43.41SwKi'm sorry
01:43.49MikeJ[Laptop]justnulling2, see my previous comment
01:43.58MikeJ[Laptop]still havn't changed my mind.
01:44.25MikeJ[Laptop]what the hell, justnulling2, ask again...
01:44.25JuggieMikeJ[Laptop], its better because of how agi communicates with *
01:44.43MikeJ[Laptop]Juggie, what's better because whosi whatsit?
01:45.43SwKAGI is good for somethings and just crappy for other and the dialplan has its uses too... but one usually finds you have to mix them to get the things you want
01:46.07Juggieagi is a pain in some ways
01:46.13MikeJ[Laptop]yes
01:46.17Juggiefor example, a php script CANNOT have any return lines in it...
01:46.27MikeJ[Laptop]sure it can
01:46.28cjkagi rocks and works greate
01:46.33Juggienope, it cannot
01:46.37MikeJ[Laptop]sure it can
01:46.49Juggienot that i've seen, it causes problems
01:46.53justnulling2mikej: is this correct syntax register => user:pass@host/100 and ext is set in extentions.conf exten => 100,1,Dial(SIP/100,20)
01:46.58MikeJ[Laptop]well, with asterisk, sure...
01:47.08*** join/#asterisk WilliamK (~wkeller@c-24-0-130-177.hsd1.tx.comcast.net)
01:47.23MikeJ[Laptop]justnulling2, sure... but that has nothing to do with your original qustion about matching a peer
01:47.35JuggieMikeJ[Laptop], we are talking about *
01:47.39Juggienot php in general
01:47.40Juggiebut phpagi
01:47.43MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
01:47.45MikeJ[Laptop]I know...
01:47.55MikeJ[Laptop]I'm being literal... it's fun
01:47.56Juggieyou cant have any control breaks
01:48.00Juggieit confuses *
01:48.01MikeJ[Laptop]arn't you having fun
01:48.05Juggienot really.
01:48.12MikeJ[Laptop]well who said anything about asterisk?
01:48.14MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
01:48.31Juggiei dunno didnt you say you didnt see why people needed more then agi
01:48.35JohnsieHas anyone ever used Asterisk in a chrooted environment?
01:48.45JuggieJohnsie, www.voip-info.org has docs
01:48.46MikeJ[Laptop]no, I said agi sucks for the most part
01:48.53Juggieoh, i understood the reverse.
01:48.57Juggiei use agi, but its a pain
01:48.57justnulling2mikej: i thoght this should work for inbound calls but i get this no matching peers/users error when i try to call that number
01:49.02Juggiei get all kinds of defunct php processes.
01:49.09Juggiei have to restart to fix that every few days
01:49.17blitzrageJuggie: I know junk-y uses pretty near entire AGI to run his Asterisk - never uses the dialplan other than to call the script
01:49.20MikeJ[Laptop]justnulling2, so if it can't match a peer....
01:49.31Juggiebut it doesnt cause any problems in the dialplan like * sees all scripts terminate.
01:49.42blitzragejustnulling2: register is not used for inbound calls
01:50.23JohnsieJuggie: I didn't really find anything there.
01:50.25MikeJ[Laptop]I will spell it out... if the error message say can't match a peer, it needs a peer to match too
01:50.31Juggieblitzrage, thats backwords
01:50.37Juggieregister is used for inbound, not outbound
01:50.49blitzrageJuggie: errrr.... yah, lol
01:50.58blitzrageI've been writing too many docs
01:51.00blitzragelol
01:51.01MikeJ[Laptop]but it's not used to auth the call
01:51.04blitzrageright
01:51.05Juggieno, its not
01:51.11Juggieits meerly to let the other side know your ip.
01:51.15blitzrageyep
01:51.18MikeJ[Laptop]correct
01:51.19Juggieand to auth when it does so.
01:51.24justnulling2mikej: there is an entry in sip.conf [100] type=freind should that be a match?
01:51.55justnulling2blitzrage:how are inbound calls setup?
01:52.48JuggieJohnsie, http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-security/2005-January/000026.html
01:52.49blitzragejustnulling2: using a type=user
01:53.49JohnsieOh, excellent.
01:53.52blitzrageautokill=yes sounds like a general qualify for all peers as opposed to using qualify=yes for each peer - however the docs say to ACK the NEW - I thought qualify's were checked with a PING type?
01:53.53JohnsieThank you, Juggie.
01:53.59blitzrageI'm talking about IAX2 here
01:54.04Juggienot much help, but it just says basically it works :)
01:54.07MikeJ[Laptop]http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+config+sip.conf
01:54.17Juggieso if you know how to chroot, then it should work with a basic setup
01:54.22JohnsieThat's enough to get me in the right direction. ;)
01:54.31JohnsieI'm attempting this on a Gentoo vserver kernel.
01:54.39Juggieno hardware?
01:54.42Juggiejust voip?
01:54.44JohnsieSo I can let each VPS use Asterisk.
01:54.46JohnsieCorrect.
01:54.47MikeJ[Laptop]justnulling2, needs to match where the call is coming from so it knows what it is.
01:54.50Juggieshould be easy then.
01:54.58JohnsieLet's hope! :)
01:55.12Juggieeveryone gets their own /etc, shared binaries... should be simple ;)
01:55.47justnulling2mikej: what do you mean by match where the call is coming from?
01:55.48Juggielook in asterisk.conf to see all the paths asterisk uses.
01:56.30justnulling2blitzrage: i have this [100] type=user what else do i need?
01:57.17MikeJ[Laptop]it's not a user, it's a peer
01:57.24MikeJ[Laptop]for inbound calls
01:57.30MikeJ[Laptop]or friend if yoyu wish
01:57.45MikeJ[Laptop]who are you registering to?
01:58.30fileblitzrage: still wanna know aboot autokill?
01:59.00blitzragefile: sure - I just wrote something, but tell me if I got it right :)
01:59.10filewhat did you write?
01:59.24Qwell"autokill kills something - automatically"
01:59.29Qwell:)
01:59.47blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: we place calls to peers, we receive calls from users
02:00.10blitzrageQwell: lol
02:00.27fileblitzrage: good good
02:00.31blitzragefile: excellent
02:00.35MikeJ[Laptop]correct
02:00.43blitzragefile: thanks
02:00.50filego blitzrage go
02:00.56MikeJ[Laptop]did I say that backwards
02:01.06MikeJ[Laptop]heh.. I did
02:01.06MikeJ[Laptop]oops
02:01.30blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: I say it backwords all the time - in fact, after I wrote that, I was like, "wait... did I say it wrong?"
02:01.38blitzrageits a confusing concept :)
02:01.56Juggiesexy
02:02.00filetechnically we receive calls from peers as well
02:02.05Juggiefox is broadcasting Attack of the clones in 1080i
02:02.05blitzragefile: this is true
02:02.06filewell, can
02:02.12SwKjuggie no returns in the PHP? what are you talking about I do php agi all the time and my shit wouldnt work without return $foo
02:02.16MikeJ[Laptop]file... don't complicate
02:02.20blitzragefile: if no user is matched, we try to match peers - you're right :)
02:02.23filebut it's fun to complicate!
02:02.26MikeJ[Laptop]justnulling2, so, who are you registering too
02:02.29SwKmaybe not returning to * that way
02:02.31JuggieSwK, no i'm getting defunct processes.
02:02.37blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: I could make it even more confusing if we were talking about users and peers for SIP :)_
02:02.38SwKbut just returning from internal functions
02:02.45MikeJ[Laptop]heh
02:02.58blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: maybe we are - who knows, lol
02:03.02SwKdefunct * or php processes?
02:03.10Juggiephp processes
02:03.13Juggierun from within *
02:03.17SwKreally
02:03.17MikeJ[Laptop]ok screw it.. I don't care
02:03.20Juggiebut they all return to asterisk fine
02:03.22SwKthats interesting...
02:03.24Juggieand dont block the dialplan
02:03.28Juggieso its boggeling
02:03.45SwKyes it is... are you returning a value to * or on internal functions?
02:03.45MikeJ[Laptop]boggel is a fun game
02:04.01justnulling2mikej: stanaphone
02:04.16MikeJ[Laptop]huh?
02:04.29Juggieswk, no, i'm not using returns or exit
02:04.32Juggiethe php script just finishes
02:04.37Juggieperhaps thats why
02:05.26MikeJ[Laptop]what's stanaphone?
02:05.34SwKi dunno... i have a call router i wrote in php that routes 1000s of calls a day that has not exhibited that behavior
02:05.58MikeJ[Laptop]router routes.
02:06.53Juggiei should probally do a set_time_limit as well, and set the proper error reporting
02:07.09MikeJ[Laptop]o look at that.. a sample config on the wiki... http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Sample+Asterisk+config+for+StanaPhone
02:07.23MikeJ[Laptop]OKAY, EVERYONE LISTEN UP...
02:07.27MikeJ[Laptop]~docs
02:07.28jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
02:07.45JuggieSwK, how are you terminating, doing all returns?
02:07.48*** join/#asterisk dpb9 (~dpb@lexx.daves.net)
02:08.03MikeJ[Laptop]please try to search for 10 seconds before you start asking... there is a lot of useful info out there
02:08.17SwKeither exit return or just letting the script complete
02:08.51SwK<?php
02:08.52SwKob_implicit_flush(true);
02:08.53SwKset_time_limit(6);
02:09.02SwKthose are good things for AGI
02:09.15Juggiek, i will make those mods....
02:09.18Juggiehow do you close out?
02:09.26Juggiek
02:09.30SwKhowever i need to...
02:09.33Juggieii just saw when i looked up
02:09.38SwKhah aight
02:09.41Juggiei'm not doing the first 2 lines.
02:10.37SwKthe the implicit flush keeps the stdin and stdout ipes clear w/out having to explicitly call flush and the time_limit keeps the script from hanging and just falling over dead killing the call
02:10.56|Vulture|anyone here use VoipJet?
02:11.03SwKjuggie: ook at the wiki there are some examples there with some functions you might find usefl
02:11.50ariel_|Vulture|, yes
02:12.28|Vulture|ariel_: how do you like it? I am trying between a few providers, VPC/VoipJet/Asterlink
02:13.30ariel_|Vulture|, there ok. The only problem I have had with them has been getting the CallerID correct. But I am using them as my first LD provider then NuFone followed by VPC.
02:13.43blitzragemixnetworks.com too
02:14.02|Vulture|I liked them because they have a western and eastern providero
02:14.53MikeJ[Laptop]when choosing a provider, ask yourself, quality, reliability, and if I have a problem is there somone there to answer the phone and help me.
02:14.57*** join/#asterisk juice (~juice@mo-65-41-222-69.dyn.sprint-hsd.net)
02:15.01MikeJ[Laptop]then have backups...
02:15.16MikeJ[Laptop]but that is harder on your inbound
02:15.16ariel_MikeJ[Laptop], your correct.
02:15.29|Vulture|well I am only using for outbound LD
02:15.32ariel_inbound I have right now vpc
02:15.37|Vulture|I have PRI for inbound
02:16.03MikeJ[Laptop]so, what has peoples problem resolutions been like with vpc, voipjet, asterlink and nufone?
02:16.37MikeJ[Laptop]bbiab...
02:16.41|Vulture|vpc: on/off problems with inbound... outbound no problems really except in my westcoast
02:17.15MikeJ[Laptop]ok, so there's a no.
02:17.16MikeJ[Laptop]next
02:17.26ariel_MikeJ[Laptop], I have not had any problems with vpc nor nufone.  But voipjet for some reason they can't get the caller ID correct. But since it's not that much of a problem so far I don't care.
02:17.45|Vulture|ariel_: inbound CID or outbound?
02:18.10SwKi use asterlink and they have provided great service
02:18.11ariel_|Vulture|, outbound CallerID
02:18.22|Vulture|ah thats no good
02:18.25SwKplus timely trouble resolution
02:18.28fileSwK: that made me smile
02:18.31MikeJ[Laptop]for a provider, I don't want to fight to get things to work.. if somthing is not working, I want to tell them, and have them call me back and say it's fixed.. but I'm a picky customer like that
02:18.51|Vulture|yes I can vouch for asterlink... GREAT service
02:18.52SwKcourse there are several people that work there that hang out here (no names mentioned)
02:18.54ariel_I have had the same number with vpc for over a year and don't want to give that up for inbound. So I am paying there new rate.
02:19.00fileawww you people are so kind
02:19.08SwKstfu file
02:19.14MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
02:19.15|Vulture|$10 isn't bad for inbound unlimited
02:19.17SwKor i'll burn your muffin
02:19.25filenow now
02:19.27ariel_|Vulture|, vpc is 11
02:19.31blitzrageouch
02:19.34|Vulture|oh yea 11... but still
02:19.35MikeJ[Laptop]I can say my experience with nufone support has been not positive
02:19.40|Vulture|use to be like $5 right?
02:19.48ariel_7/05
02:19.51ariel_7.95
02:19.55|Vulture|I just trashed my VPC inbound #
02:20.24MikeJ[Laptop]somthing that cheap you WILL get what you pay for.
02:20.45ariel_11 dollars for inbound only is not in my book cheap.
02:21.05ariel_But VPC seems to have a server very close to my location and I have not been down with them at all.
02:21.26Juggiei saw 15$ for two inbound, unlimited incomming/outgoing
02:21.35Juggiedont know their reliability, but its listed on the wiki
02:22.06ariel_I have had up to 4 calls inbound with vpc on the same number without issues.
02:23.13MikeJ[Laptop]anything unlimited inbound is potentially problematic cuz the provider needs to be able to afford to do it.. so they size there networks small
02:23.53SwKyeah not only that but minutes are so cheap these days I dont see how they pay for bandwidth of people using ulaw all the time
02:23.58|Vulture|anyone know what Asterlink's billing policy is?
02:24.11MikeJ[Laptop]billing policy?
02:24.16|Vulture|6sec
02:24.23SwKthye are minute usage based... 6sec
02:24.32|Vulture|kk thats what I figured
02:24.37SwK0.02/minute
02:24.49SwKI think something very close to that anyway
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02:25.16SwKfree tooll free number if its one they already have or like $25 1time for a vanity number
02:25.37MikeJ[Laptop]not free usage :)
02:25.50SwKyeah no free usage but 0 setup on it
02:25.52NightHawkeneeed a little support on setting up two TDM03 cards
02:25.57Juggiein the goverment in canada, there would be no case for putting voip over our internal networks
02:26.07Juggiewe get long distance cheaper then we could ever get bandwidth
02:26.08MikeJ[Laptop]??
02:26.21Juggiei mean longrange, not internally
02:26.38Juggievoip wont make a business case for saving longdistance costs
02:26.51|Vulture|but see Asterlink is 115ms from my westcoast server
02:26.55SwKthats not true juggie
02:27.04Juggieit is for us
02:27.06|Vulture|eastcoast is good... west no so good
02:27.08SwKit all depends on several factor
02:27.09SwKs
02:27.16NightHawketwo cards, one has 3 FXS modules, the other has 4 FXO modules
02:27.19Qwell|Vulture|: Do they have more then one switch?
02:27.30|Vulture|Qwell: not that I know of
02:27.47QwellWhich one are you pinging?
02:27.51Juggieswk, we get long distance for less then a penny a minute
02:27.56|Vulture|66.250.68.190
02:28.01Qwell|Vulture|: hostname?
02:28.07MikeJ[Laptop]asterlink has many many boxes.
02:28.10blitzragepeople pay for LD still? :)
02:28.18MikeJ[Laptop]hheh
02:28.25blitzrageI haven't paid for LD for nearly two years now
02:28.29|Vulture|ah okay
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02:28.32Qwell|Vulture|: switch-X.asterlink.com
02:28.36Qwellwhere X goes up to at least 3
02:28.49SwKwhen you have companies w/ multiple offices and spending tons of tie lines outside of their normal LD it starts making sense... govs on the other hand usually have huge private networks that make it a difficult to compete against to based on existing investment and costs of their links
02:29.01file3 shouldn't be for public use
02:29.17blitzrageisn't the conf server on 3?
02:29.18SwKi didnt think 3 was for public use
02:29.22Qwellblitzrage: yeah
02:29.33fileyeah 3 is not for public use for calling
02:29.38MikeJ[Laptop]but it'll ping the same as the voip gateways
02:29.41JuggieSwK, there are no hands in private networks, the goverment buys its telephone service from gtis, gtis inturn buys everything in bulk from the phone companies
02:29.43|Vulture|Qwell: thank you
02:29.48Qwell|Vulture|: file knows more
02:29.51Qwelllisten to him
02:29.59Juggiethey make the phone companies bid against each other, then buy in bulk and sell to the rest of the gov
02:30.11|Vulture|2 doesn't pink
02:30.11Juggieas you can imagine, when you buy millions of minutes
02:30.13fileI'm on switch-3 right now if you want me to try a ping out to you... or a tracert
02:30.13Juggieyou get a discount
02:30.22SwKGTIS is like the US GSA?
02:30.33Juggiei guess so, i dont know anything about US fed system
02:30.43MikeJ[Laptop]lucky
02:30.51SwKGSA == General Services Administration... its like the fed supply chain
02:31.17SwKits the best place in the world to order $3000 toilet seats
02:31.26MikeJ[Laptop]heh
02:31.30SwK(which can be bought at walmart for $5)
02:31.32NightHawkewhere did you think that money actually went?
02:31.35Qwellnot true
02:31.39SwKarea 51
02:31.43Qwellall of the R&D that go into those seat, make it well worth it. :D
02:31.49SwKhah
02:31.51NightHawkeor other DoD projects
02:31.51ariel_asterlink says it's less the .03 cents per minute. This sounds high.
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02:31.54SwKits must be MilSpec
02:31.54Juggiehah, well its like that but cheaper :)
02:32.02NightHawkeDARPA
02:32.03Qwellariel_: .03c/m?
02:32.05filewe charge 2 cents per minute to the US and Canada
02:32.07fafnirwhat must be?
02:32.08filethat's for prepaid
02:32.13NightHawkethats dirt cheap
02:32.13filefor postpaid it's 3 cents per minute
02:32.17Juggieiax.cc is 1.3cents
02:32.36SwKwhen it comes to termination you get what you pay for tho
02:32.51filethe people behind asterlink hang out in here a lot, and contribute a lot to asterisk
02:32.52ariel_dirt cheap...humm
02:33.04SwKi;'m sure I could et cheaper termination if I looked really hard, but is it worth it when theres a problem or sound quality is ass
02:33.16NightHawkeoh of course, how do you feel with us dealing with sbc here in texas, wanting to prevent muni wifi from being deployed
02:33.19Juggiei have to buy a bunch of g729 licenses soon
02:33.23NightHawkewith gutter tactics in the state house
02:33.27QwellSwK: most providers have customer service, low rates, or good quality
02:33.29QwellSwK: pick two
02:33.38|Vulture|file: can your traceroute to: 71.104.1.7
02:33.45Juggiei'd pick the last two
02:33.50QwellJuggie: indeed
02:33.53Juggiei dont need a helpdesk,
02:33.53SwKqwell: i know more abou the providers then I care to say
02:33.53liloNightHawke: fun people
02:33.54file|Vulture|: sure
02:34.07fileer well maybe I can't
02:34.08SwK"if you cant say anything good about someone dont say it at all" is my policy for right now
02:34.21fileI can't even ping that IP
02:34.22Juggierogers is going to shake bell up here in ontario soon.
02:34.23NightHawkethey tried deregulation in illinois, they got warned not to do that agian when it got shot down
02:34.32|Vulture|file: yea its blocked for ping
02:34.34QwellSwK: "if you can't say anything good about a provider, let others know, so they can judge for themselves"
02:34.37NightHawkesame with kansas
02:34.51QwellSwK: If a provider truly is shit, its good to know about it
02:35.06fileour network setup appears to prevent traceroutes, who knew?!?
02:35.12NightHawkewhos had luck with TDM03 cards?
02:35.17MikeJ[Laptop]ok, everyone, qwick.. who is your favorite provider
02:35.23Juggiepreventing traceroutes is a good idea :)
02:35.23QwellMikeJ[Laptop]: Verizon!
02:35.26Qwelloh, wait... ;]
02:35.29|Vulture|file: they are still on DSL there Ill check when the T1 is installed on wed.
02:35.31ariel_NightHawke, I use the TDM cards there good.
02:35.34MikeJ[Laptop]ok.. voip provider
02:35.35MikeJ[Laptop]heeh
02:35.37jaxxxxwhats the cheapest pstn provider in ks
02:36.05NightHawkeariel_ i need help in setting up two TDMS in a system, just loaded the two cards in, what conf files need to be done?
02:36.12MikeJ[Laptop]jaxxxx wan't crappy service and support?
02:36.20NightHawkePSTN, would probably be either SBC or sprint,
02:36.35NightHawkesprint provides long distance for many communities
02:36.42ariel_NightHawke, it's easy just make sure you have each card on it's own irq
02:36.45NightHawkethey would probably be your best best
02:36.49SwKNightHawke: voip-info.org has all the info you need on setting up zaltel interfaces
02:36.58ariel_and just for you to know I dont' use Sprint for anything but bathroom paper.
02:37.28NightHawkelol ariel_, i understand that, but we've had good luck as a ISP with sprint
02:37.29jaxxxxi have * and want to put a number on it via ip
02:37.45NightHawkebefore we we went national, we had sprint T1
02:37.48jaxxxxand yes i am very new to the game
02:37.49ariel_NightHawke, there billing sucks and there data lines are really very poor.
02:38.02Qwell"their billing sucks"
02:38.08QwellI could name 50 companies who's billing suck
02:38.15NightHawkewho's doesnt?
02:38.17SwKi hthouht sprint went the way of the .com
02:38.17blitzrageI could name 51
02:38.29QwellVerizon for instance, who submitted mine to a collection agency, which screwed my credit
02:38.30blitzrageRogers bought Sprint Canada
02:38.37NightHawkethats why i have the goofballs repeat back what i instruct them to do whenever we make a billing adjustment
02:38.38Juggierogers is going to rape bell shortly
02:38.39ariel_well in my case 50% over billing every month and even after they said they fixed it.  Plus we could not get modems to connect via there T1 line.
02:38.43QwellBecause they decided to not tell me about the bill
02:38.44NightHawkeforces them to track right
02:38.55blitzrageJuggie: yep - they are. CRTC is really helping Rogers out
02:38.55SwKyeah we;; bellsouth can suck my left nut... i will never ever do business with them again
02:39.02Juggiebell has voip ready to deploy but they wont
02:39.07Juggienot until rogers moves first
02:39.13blitzrageJuggie: well, they can't - at least not competitively
02:39.13SwKif I have to do business with them to get phone service, I wont have phone service
02:39.18NightHawkeSwK, thanks for the link, the board is older, but i'm certain that we wont have IRQ conflicts
02:39.19Juggiethey have deployed it in quebec, because videotron did
02:39.34Juggienow bell is waiting for rogers to move first
02:39.43Juggiethey dont want to shot themselves in the foot before they have to
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02:40.01NightHawkeheh
02:40.04Juggiei've seen a presentation on rogers system
02:40.08SwKNightHawke: that board might be a little date, but the * coders have this thing for backwards compatibility they wont break it unless absolutly nessecary
02:40.09Juggieits solid or it looks to be
02:40.37NightHawkeSWK *nods* aint that hard, if it boils down to it, i got a ASUS board that's flexable and powerfull.. A7V
02:40.39Juggieata which is coax, plugs in down at your dmark point, includes a battery backup incase of power outtage.
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02:41.00SwKcoax is so 1994
02:41.40NightHawkehehehe
02:41.54SwKgotta use CAT12 man
02:42.00NightHawkemultichannel fiber
02:42.21InfraRedtelegtraph pulse
02:42.22jaxxxxuse a frickin laser
02:42.32NightHawkeLOS 802.16
02:42.37NightHawkepoint to point
02:42.41InfraRed.16
02:42.45InfraRedisnt that wimax thing ?>
02:42.48NightHawketwo pringles cans antennas
02:42.55InfraRedYES
02:42.59InfraRedNOW WE'RE TALKING
02:43.07blitzragemmm.. I could go for some pringles
02:43.09InfraRedPRINGLES DONT SUFFER FROM PACKET LOSS AT ALL
02:43.13NightHawkedifferent critters.. 802.16 is optimized for LONG distance point to point... 30 miles
02:43.21geesusONCE YOU POP YOU CANT SUFFER PACKET LOSS
02:43.21Juggiecoax may be 1994
02:43.22NightHawke15 miles multi
02:43.27Juggiebut the cable companies have lots of it
02:43.34Juggieand it has LOTS of bandwidth
02:43.36InfraRedcoax is still useful
02:43.39NightHawkecuz they went cheap
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02:43.50blitzrageJuggie: oh yah - I get 10mbit/1mbit for cheap
02:43.52NightHawkeand as long as it's maintained
02:44.04NightHawkethat copper gets ugly, noise ensues
02:44.07shmaltzJerJer, you around?
02:44.17Juggieblitzrage, i'm sure you do, i'm happy with my rogers cable its fine :)
02:44.17blitzrageJuggie: I said SCREW BELL and decided to just run VoIP for my apartment
02:44.24fileblitzrage makes me happy!
02:44.25blitzrageJuggie: Cogeco is better :)
02:44.48blitzrageJuggie: Roger's are nazi's
02:45.03Juggiethey serve me well.
02:45.08blitzrageJuggie: I just found out the other day that Cogeco implemented MPLS on their backbone
02:45.15InfraRedCogeco?
02:45.19InfraRedor cogent?
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02:45.27Juggiecogeco
02:45.32blitzrageJuggie: oh yah, basically same network - I just find Roger's a bit more sticky on what, and how much, you download.
02:45.35NightHawkecogenco?
02:45.36InfraRedah canadian co
02:45.36blitzrageJuggie: where you live, Toronto?
02:45.42blitzrageCogeco.
02:45.47blitzrageyes, I typed it right
02:46.10JerJer[mobile]cogehoe
02:46.15blitzrageheh :)
02:46.29InfraRedcognopo
02:46.46Juggieblitzrage, either way... the network has mad bandwidth :)
02:46.50fileoh now I remember what I was going to bug bkw about
02:46.54blitzrageJuggie: can't argue with that :)
02:46.58Juggiei pay 100$
02:47.02Juggiefor rogers monthly
02:47.17blitzrageJuggie: thats about what I pay, 10mbit/1mbit and digital cable
02:47.50Juggieand i have alot, internet, two receivers (one hd, one sd) and timeshifting, movienetworks, and high def time shifting/speciality channels
02:48.03Juggiei'm watching Episode 2 now, in 1900x1080i :) on FOXWHD
02:48.32shmaltzwhy is nufones credit card processing disabled?
02:48.50Qwellshmaltz: is it?
02:48.52blitzrageJuggie: wow, nice
02:49.00QwellWhy are HD TVs so damn expensive?
02:49.07blitzragebecause they can be
02:49.10shmaltzQwell, thats what I get when I try to open an account
02:49.21JuggieQwell, i'm not using a tv
02:49.24Juggiedell 2300mp
02:49.26QwellJuggie: hmm
02:49.29shmaltzQwell, you work for them?
02:49.30Juggie90" screen (wide)
02:49.35Qwellshmaltz: can't say that I do
02:49.36Juggienot sure on diagional
02:51.31Qwellumm...fox better be playing the Simpsons in 10 minutes
02:51.36Juggieprojector central tells me i'm projecting 84" wide, 47" high, which is a 97" diag
02:51.41JuggieQwell, they are not
02:51.45Qwellbastards
02:51.48QwellFamily Guy at 9?
02:51.52Juggienope
02:51.58Juggieno animation tonight
02:52.06Qwellwtf
02:52.13Juggieyah i know
02:52.14Qwelldamn them :(
02:52.17Juggiei wanted a new fg too
02:52.19Juggiei love the show
02:52.24Qwellscrew starwars, I can download that whenever I want
02:53.02Juggie:)
02:53.09Juggieif you can find starwars for download in 1080i
02:53.10Juggielet me know
02:53.41Juggiepersonally, i cant wait for 24 tomorow
02:54.52JerJer[mobile]i'm so far behind on 24  :(
02:54.59QwellI hate 24...
02:55.04JerJer[mobile]but i have my PVR at home saving me a copy
02:55.06Qwellmy boss was an extra in one of the eps, heh
02:55.14Qwellswat or something
02:56.43blitzrageariel_: you should really turn off that auto-away
02:59.09blitzrageI just download all the latest shows with Azureus from the RSS feeds on bittorrent
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03:00.54Qwellshmaltz: You could always pay by CC through paypal?
03:01.02QwellI swear he had the cc stuff working though...
03:01.10fileshmaltz: http://www.asterlink.com/ ?
03:01.10shmaltzQwell, only if PayPal would let me
03:01.46shmaltzfile, you work for them?
03:01.58fileI might
03:02.01blitzragefile works the corner
03:02.12fileyou would know that well wouldn't you?
03:02.23blitzragedamnit! caught in my own joke
03:02.53Qwellblitzrage: the proper answer was "damn straight!  he makes me alot of money too"
03:03.17blitzragedamn straight! he makes me a lot of money too!
03:03.52blitzragesee, I'm not quick enough on the wit
03:03.59fileactually blitzrage doesn't
03:04.08shmaltzbut file does
03:04.10blitzrageI work for leifmadsen.com
03:04.11shmaltz???????????????????
03:04.28MikeJ[Laptop]blitrage works?
03:04.33blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: sometimes :)
03:04.36MikeJ[Laptop]heh
03:04.38fileMikeJ[Laptop]: hard to believe isn't it?
03:04.39shmaltzok
03:04.42blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: actually... too much for a 24 y/o...
03:04.43MikeJ[Laptop]yeah
03:04.59shmaltzfile, for the moment I'll be ur customer, and if you don't go down on me too many times I might just stay
03:05.06MikeJ[Laptop]just wait till you have a house and kids
03:05.06blitzragethe joys of starting an independent consulting business straight out of school
03:05.09Qwellhaha
03:05.13shmaltzso, whats that colocated t1 that you offer?
03:05.14blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: I'm not getting either of those
03:05.15filewhat, you don't like someone going down on you?
03:05.22Qwellfile [...] and if you don't go down on me too many times I might just stay
03:05.27shmaltzif they are male, nope
03:05.33blitzrageMikeJ[Laptop]: I'm not having kids, and houses are going the way of the dodo
03:05.36filewe're mostly male.
03:05.36shmaltzif they are female I like it ;/
03:05.44shmaltznah, I'm not gay
03:05.50shmaltzanyhow
03:06.00shmaltzwhats with that colo t1 that you offer?
03:06.02MikeJ[Laptop]yeah, whatever...
03:06.12MikeJ[Laptop]shmaltz, who?
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03:06.22shmaltzMikeJ, who what?
03:06.26MikeJ[Laptop]me thinks thou protests too much
03:06.31MikeJ[Laptop]who offers the colo t1?
03:06.36MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
03:06.41filewe do, at Asterlink!
03:06.44shmaltzasterlink
03:06.45shmaltzhttp://www.asterlink.com/t1_termination.htm
03:06.58shmaltzfile, is that a PRI if I want?
03:07.45Juggiehahaha
03:07.49Juggiefuckin awesome commercial
03:07.54Juggiem & m's starwars
03:08.05MikeJ[Laptop]yeah.. saw it earlier
03:08.12Juggiem & m: "well dark vader, we've decided not to join the dark side"
03:08.21Juggie<dark vader choaks the red m & m>
03:08.28geesusOH! that ad is pro!
03:08.31Juggiem & m: "we'll start monday"
03:10.34Darienpfft
03:10.37Beirdoand it's Darth Vader :)
03:10.47Beirdobut a cool commercial as commercials go
03:10.53Juggieyah its funny
03:11.25Juggie<day until 24 season finale :)
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03:11.49geesusomg cant wait for that either
03:12.03MikeJ[Laptop]nerds!!!
03:12.04Juggieyah its gonna be intense
03:12.15geesusjack is gonna pwn marwan I hope...
03:12.25Juggienatalie portman is looking mighty sexy here on high def :)
03:12.54geesusThat mandy chick is back in it too, I reckon shes got alot more to do with all the seasons then they are letting on...
03:13.16Juggiewhich one is mandy?
03:13.21Juggiethe black girl who was working at CT?
03:13.44fileexcuse me!
03:14.05geesusnah the one who has a hold of tony
03:14.22Juggieahhhh
03:14.23Juggieyeah
03:14.25Juggiei dunno...
03:14.37geesusthis is the 3rd season shes in...
03:14.52Juggiesomeone is dieing tho
03:14.54Juggiei hope its not tony
03:15.00Juggieonce they said lets leave ct
03:15.02Juggieone of them will die
03:15.17geesushttp://www.tvtome.com/tvtome/servlet/PersonDetail/personid-56581
03:15.31SwKTV is over rated
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03:15.41Juggietv shows have gotten better lately
03:15.46Juggiefox doing the non stop seasons i like
03:15.55Juggierunning jan-may is fine by me
03:15.58Juggiewith a new epp every week
03:16.05SwK24 sucks, american idol sucks, and even jerry springer sucks
03:16.22Juggiei agree on the last two
03:16.24Juggiebut 24 is hot
03:16.28Juggieso is family guy
03:16.33Qwelland simpsons
03:16.40Juggieindeed
03:16.49Juggiethey put on 6 eppisodes of the simpsons
03:16.50Qwelland I'm growing fond of American Dad
03:16.51Juggiein 3 weeks
03:16.55Qwellyeah
03:17.00SwKfamly guy is good as is simpsons and futurama, but I havent seen "good tv" in ages
03:17.00Juggieyes, amercain dad is also seth mcfarlanes creation
03:17.25SwKnetwork tv is just nasty
03:17.30SwKits like pop music
03:18.48pussfellertry watching jap or korean tv, much better dramas
03:19.22geesusfuturama is pro
03:20.00geesusI play more computer games then I watch TV these days
03:20.29pussfelleronly american show i watch anymore is the shield
03:20.45geesusomg thats comming back on TV in australia soon too, I loved that show!
03:21.04Mavviegeesus: which one?
03:21.10geesusthe shield & 24, ocasionally sg1 and CSI
03:21.21geesusMavvie: s2 of the shield I think
03:21.31Mavvie(not that I can be bothered watching TV, only watch Mythbusters and Iron Chef)
03:21.33geesusthey started showing s2 then cut out all of a sudden
03:21.38Mavviegeesus: I'll keep an eye open for it.
03:21.48pussfellerits gotten good, glenn close is the new captain
03:22.01geesusooOoOo Mavvie your an aussie: what FXO cards do you use?
03:22.01pussfellerand ahzevata has gotten into a rape kink
03:22.09Mavviegeesus: only PRIs :-)
03:22.17geesusdoh! im too poor for an E1!
03:23.07JohnsieBack again... LOL :D
03:23.34geesusmmm Suimin noodles...
03:25.17JohnsieI'm trying to run Asterisk in a chrooted environment, on a vserver kernel, and I need to have ztdummy support.  To that end, I found only one post from Digium (thanks to Juggie) and attempted to go by those hints, which didn't work.  Any suggestions on getting access to a timing source in a chrooted environment?
03:27.21geesusSuggestions no, but wishes of good luck yes!
03:27.25Johnsie:)
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03:27.43JohnsieIf I figure it out, it's going up on voip-info.org ... heh.
03:27.53geesus<3
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03:32.23Juggiehaha
03:32.27Juggiethat hp commercial was good
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03:40.14NoRemorsehello, is there an oh323 channel please?
03:41.04NoRemorsehaving probs compiling pwlib, getting the following error if anyone has seen before...
03:41.05NoRemorse/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-slackware-linux/3.3.4/../../../../i486-slackware-linux/bin/ld: ./obj_linux_x86_d/asn_grammar.o(.gnu.linkonce.r._ZTV5PListI9ValueBaseE+0x1c): unresolvable relocation against symbol `PAbstractList::Compare(PObject const&) const'
03:41.06NoRemorse/
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03:55.42CaNaBiScan you register a sipura to a cisco call manager anyone know?
03:56.11shmaltzCaNaBiS, yeah if you use asterisk as the go in between
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04:04.17newmedianYesterday's News: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/05/22/pingtel_voip/
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04:25.07xeet2anyone know anything about the my_zt_write: Write returned -1   thing?
04:26.18WilliamKxeet, yeah increase your jitterbuffers= in zapata.conf
04:26.36xeet2oh yeah?  whats a good number?  I'm set to 4 right now
04:26.47WilliamKI set mine for 20, but I have alot of ram
04:26.48NewSole24
04:26.57xeet2williamk: what is alot of ram?
04:27.00xeet2hmmm, ok
04:27.02WilliamKmemory
04:27.03WilliamK=)
04:27.10xeet2I seem to have been able to reproduce it
04:27.23xeet2william: hehe
04:27.26xeet2how much though?
04:27.31WilliamK24 works
04:27.39xeet2I mean, how much ram do you have
04:27.48WilliamK512 in that box
04:28.00xeet2ah, so 1 gig should suffice
04:28.32WilliamKyeppers
04:28.37WilliamKI'd set it for 24 then at least
04:28.42xeet2k
04:28.44xeet2thanks =)
04:31.57xeet2cool, no more errors
04:32.22WilliamKanyone know howto enable anonymous call rejection?
04:32.36xeet2in asterisk?
04:33.32WilliamKyep
04:33.59xeet2anonymous calls usually contain Anonymous in the caller id name
04:34.19xeet2(different than no caller id)
04:34.26xeet2so if you match on that, you can reject it
04:34.39WilliamKI want to give congestion if I don't recieve their # incoming
04:35.04xeet2analog or pri/voip?
04:35.08WilliamKPRI
04:35.25xeet2hmmmm
04:35.41xeet2a specific did or all?
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04:36.31WilliamKall
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04:38.05WilliamKgood evening kram
04:39.19xeet2exten => _NXXNXXXXXX/_,1,Congestion    < not sure of a single _ would work
04:39.35JerJer[mobile]_N.
04:39.39JerJer[mobile]or
04:39.47JerJer[mobile]_X.
04:39.47xeet2jerjer: he wants to match only nothing
04:39.51xeet2not everything
04:40.00xeet2only when the caller id number is blank
04:40.14kramevening williamk
04:40.18JerJer[mobile]_NXXNXXXXX/,1,Congestion
04:40.25xeet2ah yes there we go
04:40.33xeet2thanks
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04:41.07WilliamKso basically that would match nothing incoming?
04:41.26xeet2that would match only an empty cidnumber
04:41.48xeet2but calls coming in with an empty cidnumber do not necessarily mean they are anonymous
04:41.59QwellWait, whats the /?
04:42.03Qwella or b?
04:42.24xeet2exten => dest/source,pri,app
04:43.02xeet2so if you wanted to match only number 123 calling 321, you would do 321/123,1,
04:43.07Qwellhmm?
04:43.12WilliamK=)
04:43.13Qwellahh, I see, ok
04:43.31xeet2william: I can send a call with a blank source, let me know
04:43.48WilliamKhmm, didn't work so far
04:43.53WilliamKtested it off my cell
04:44.09xeet2you sure your cell has a blank source number?
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04:45.21WilliamKyeah it's sending it blank
04:45.31WilliamK<PROTECTED>
04:45.43xeet2hmmm
04:45.49xeet2try the _
04:45.56WilliamKI did a *67 and then the #
04:46.39WilliamKstill went through
04:46.43xeet2hmmmm
04:46.59xeet2you're reloading your extensions when you make that change right?
04:47.08blitzragekram: evening
04:47.30xeet2anyone know if the new iaxy will be coming out on time?
04:48.44xeet2err, seems to be out already, nm
04:48.49WilliamKdefinately
04:49.08WilliamKdoesn't work no matter which way I try
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04:50.18xeet2oh, do you have a separate exten => 2144465300,1,
04:50.41xeet2if you do, you need to have another 2144465300/,1,
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04:51.39WilliamKoh yeah but I'm trying to match against anything for the ext
04:51.46Dossycrap.  anyone have a good recommendation for a decent free softphone for win32?
04:51.51Dossyusing firefly now - it's sucking ass.
04:52.04WilliamKmy normal call blocking works, just not for " " numbers
04:52.34Dossyyou could use GotoIf checking ${CALLERIDNUM} for blank.
04:52.47WilliamKsure if I knew how =)
04:53.00Corydon76-homeI found the new dialplan language... http://www.dangermouse.net/esoteric/whenever.html
04:53.15Corydon76-homeWe gotta use this now for the Asterisk dialplan.
04:53.45xeet2hmmmm
04:54.30Dossygoing to try iaxcomm.
04:54.50xeet2dossy: xten ?
04:55.55Corydon76-homeWilliamK: why not use the builtin dialplan functionality?
04:56.11Corydon76-homeexten => s/,1,Goto(nocid)
04:57.24WilliamKthat it exactly?
04:57.26Corydon76-homeOr if you must use a function, check $[${LEN(${CALLERID(num)})} = 0]
04:58.06WilliamKall I want to do is take incoming calls that present no number inbound and route them to call blocking
04:58.15Corydon76-homeYep
04:58.26Corydon76-homeEither will take care of it
04:58.51Corydon76-homeLEN is available on stable and the exten/cid is on stable, too
04:59.36Corydon76-homeSo you do s/,4,Goto(${somepriority})  and otherwise do s,4,NoOp()
04:59.49JerJer[mobile]crazy - just had a 10 or 12 minute session with nickel and larger sized hail here in kansas
05:00.01Corydon76-homeWilliamK: that make sense?
05:00.24Corydon76-homeYou can be on CVS v1-0 or CVS HEAD
05:00.36WilliamKyeah I understand how the first one should work, but it doesn't
05:00.40WilliamKcopied it exactly
05:01.00Corydon76-homePost your extensions.conf to http://www.pastebin.ca
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05:10.11QwellJerJer[mobile]: funny, it was > 100F today
05:10.26Qwell10pm, its 80F
05:10.33JerJer[mobile]not sure what it was here - pretty warm
05:10.43Qwellwarm hail?  trip
05:11.02JerJer[mobile]its called convective energy
05:11.06Corydon76-homeQwell: tornadic weather
05:11.22Corydon76-homeWe get hail in Tennessee throughout the summer
05:11.34Corydon76-homeNot everyday, but it happens
05:11.36JerJer[mobile]and kansas is right on the edge of tornado alley
05:12.03Corydon76-homeHeh, the edge?
05:12.14JerJer[mobile]yeah :)
05:12.27Corydon76-homeI'd say it was right smack dab in the middle
05:12.49WilliamKok, if I do this it works, but not the other...   exten => i,1,Playback(invalid)
05:12.49WilliamKexten => i,2,Hangup
05:12.54WilliamKerr
05:13.19Corydon76-home~pastebin
05:13.20jbotpastebin is probably a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
05:14.15WilliamKbetter yet, Corydon, it works if I specify the DID in place
05:14.21WilliamKjust not the NXX's
05:14.48Corydon76-homeAnd how many digits of DID do you have?
05:14.55WilliamKlooks like it can't match the incoming DID as a wildcard
05:14.57WilliamK10 digits
05:15.28Corydon76-homeAre you sure you have the extension specified correctly?
05:15.46Corydon76-homeThat's why I asked you to post to pastebin.ca
05:16.22WilliamKspecifying the DID works however wildcarding doesn't
05:17.17xeet2WilliamK: if you have already specified an exten with the full did without a source match, that will be more specific than a pattern match on destination with a blank source
05:17.47WilliamKah
05:18.09xeet2ie 1234567890,1,Dial  will match before _NXXNXXXXXX/,1,Dial will
05:18.33Dossygrowl.
05:18.41xeet2therefore, if you have 1234567890, then you need a 1234567890/
05:18.46Dossyiaxcomm sucks.  firefly is better, but not great.
05:18.50Dossygonna try xten x-lite now.
05:19.04WilliamKso I create a file called noCallerID, and include it into the dialplan and start the pri's @ #2 instead of 1 to fix...correct?
05:19.28xeet2the best way to do it is to process all your incoming calls in one context, and then only if you want them to pass, send them to a different context
05:20.25xeet2ie [incoming] contains a _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Goto(dids,${EXTEN},1) and a _NXXNXXXXXX/,1,Congestion
05:20.26WilliamKall my calls from the PSTN are coming into incoming-trunk01, and then being sent to the correct places
05:20.32xeet2and then [dids] contains all your dids
05:20.45xeet2yeah, put another layer of contexts in there
05:20.48WilliamKah
05:20.53xeet2will give you more control in the long run
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05:45.03Pete_Largo~dialplan
05:45.05jbotdialplan is, like, something that is planned to be rewritten in VB.net, or no! it's gonna be rewritten in brainf!(k
05:45.20Pete_Largofunny jbot
05:47.23Pete_Largo~ extensions.conf
05:47.57Pete_Largo~extensions.conf
05:48.17SwKPete_Largo: try voip-info.org
05:48.26SwKtheres tons of info there... its like that asteirsk bible ro soemthing
05:48.38Pete_LargoI know, theres so much info I can't sift through it all...
05:48.52SwKhah
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05:49.21SwKasterisk's biggest asset is its flexability... and its biggest liability is its flexability
05:49.22Pete_LargoI was hoping jbot would tell me a few links to check for dialplan stuff
05:50.02SwKmake samples and go from there
05:50.11NewSolelol
05:50.44Pete_LargoI did the samples, I can dial 1000 and listen to the demo all day long...  I have no clue from there, the more I read the more confused I get... :(
05:51.15SwKthe learning curve is steep but once you get it you'll be ok
05:51.26NewSolewell then u really would not want to look at min then
05:51.30Pete_Largofunny thing though, in my experimenting, now ext 1000 takes FOREVER to pick up...
05:51.50Pete_Largolike I hear nothing for 30 seconds literally
05:51.53SwKset verbose 10 and watch the console to see whats happening on it
05:52.27Pete_LargoNo such command 'verbose' (type 'help' for help)
05:52.41SwK"set verbose 10"
05:52.45MikeJ[Laptop]speaking of steep curve, how are ya SwK?
05:52.52SwKtired
05:52.52Pete_Largothanks!
05:52.53Pete_Largo:)
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05:53.10SwKwatching emerge --sync crawl by on this old G4
05:53.20MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
05:53.29SwKand the baby just woke up
05:53.30Pete_Largoit doesn't do anything until the demo starts
05:53.53Pete_Largois it waiting for digits or something?
05:53.54SwKpete that just shows you how the dialplan is pgressing and whats goign on... kinda like turning up logging higher
05:54.30NewSolehey kram... you alive
05:54.41kramkinda
05:54.41NewSolewanted to say thnx
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05:54.58kramokay, you're welcome :)
05:55.24NewSolemat tried to help.... but was not solved.... but found the problem
05:55.27tzafrir~dialplan
05:55.28jbotfrom memory, dialplan is something that is planned to be rewritten in VB.net, or no! it's gonna be rewritten in brainf!(k
05:55.40tzafrirjbot, forget dialplan
05:55.52Pete_Largo~dialplan
05:55.53jbotrumour has it, dialplan is something that is planned to be rewritten in VB.net, or no! it's gonna be rewritten in brainf!(k
05:55.53SwKdialplan is something that should be written in basic
05:56.12SwK(or cobol or jcl or rpg)
05:56.35tzafrirjbot, no dialplan is the thing configured in extensions.conf
05:56.36jbottzafrir: okay
05:56.52tzafrir~dialplan
05:56.53jbotit has been said that dialplan is the thing configured in extensions.conf
05:57.20NewSoleour PSTN provider is backhaling PRI from cost to cost.... and not putting echo cancel on it
05:57.28tzafrirSwK, isn't the dialplan written in a BASIC vaiant?
05:57.49Pete_Largocost to cost?
05:58.06SwKtzafrir: hah
05:58.17NewSolevancover to Toronto....
05:58.24SwKtzafrir well its starting to look like it ;)
05:58.56tzafrirSwK, you know, line numbers
05:59.16SwK<PROTECTED>
05:59.30SwKooooops that wasnt supposed to co into the channel (or something hah!)
06:00.09NewSoletzafrir, no dialplan is the the plan to dian but things never happen as planned
06:00.12kramjust remember extensions.conf is a configuration file, not a programming language
06:00.17tzafrir<PROTECTED>
06:00.18SwKhah
06:01.10NewSolekram... you can not say that when u look at my extensions.conf
06:01.10Pete_Largo~extensions
06:01.33Pete_Largodoes jbot know nothing about extensions?
06:01.40SwKprobably not
06:01.45Pete_Largo~help
06:01.50SwK~docs
06:01.51jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
06:02.10NewSoleM1234
06:02.35tzafrirPete_Largo, use: jbot, extensions is bla bla bla
06:02.45Pete_Largojbot, where can I find extensions.conf
06:02.54Pete_Largowell that didn't work
06:03.16Pete_Largo~jbot
06:03.18jbotwell, jbot is ibot's stupid cousin
06:03.21Pete_Largolol
06:03.24Corydon76-home~extensions
06:03.32SwKanyone ever seen RTP stop on app_vm while waiting to see what happens after a timeout leaving a message?
06:03.33Pete_Largo~exten
06:03.37NewSole~extensions.conf
06:03.46Pete_Largonothing
06:04.06Pete_Largocan we make jbot google for something?
06:04.09tzafrirjbot, extentions is one wrong way to spell "extensions"
06:04.10jbotokay, tzafrir
06:04.11SwKwell obviously jbot doesnt have something on that... i would try the wiki there are several example dialplans there
06:04.20Corydon76-home~google extensions.conf
06:04.40Pete_Largowell that was easy
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06:05.02Corydon76-home~TimRiker
06:05.05jbottimriker is probably my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org mailto:Tim@TI.com maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool person, or ...
06:05.15NewSole~google social life
06:06.06tzafrir~bot abuse
06:06.07jbotLeave me alone.. I feel abused and molested.
06:06.28[x0r]hi all, anyone from .au with exp in getting * to work with CID on telstra pstn?
06:06.47geesus[x0r]: side note: what PSTN card do you use? :D
06:06.55[x0r]x100 clone
06:07.25geesusbah!
06:07.35[x0r]yer, thinking imight just go and get a tdm400
06:07.41geesusTDM400P's arnt A-ticked tho :o
06:07.47[x0r]A-ticked ?
06:07.51geesusyer
06:07.51[x0r]approved
06:08.05SwKapproval is over rated
06:08.08geesushttp://internet.aca.gov.au/ACAINTER:STANDARD::pp=DIR2_10,pc=PC_1728
06:08.10xeet2hehe
06:08.24[x0r]i am pretty sure the x100 clone isnt approved either?
06:08.38geesusnfi
06:08.39SwKits probably approved as a modem tho
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06:09.02[x0r]apparently tdm400 is going thru the process at the mo
06:09.19geesusyup, but im skeptical
06:09.26[x0r]wot are the alternatives thou? dodgeylogic?
06:09.26geesusI got this today:
06:09.40geesusThanks for your enquiry.
06:09.40geesusWe're expecting the certification process to be completed any day now. Please check our website, as an announcement will be made there.
06:11.02geesusbut forum posts make it look like it has been awaiting the tick since early 2004
06:11.15[x0r]hmm ok
06:11.29[x0r]so what other cards are there available for pstn that have a tick?
06:11.55geesusonly one I could find was OpenLine4
06:11.59geesus:(
06:13.07[x0r]prices start at YSD $550 ?
06:13.28geesusI think so. TDM400P's are assloads cheaper
06:13.54[x0r]yer, get a single fxo for about 220
06:13.55[x0r]AUD
06:14.23[x0r]price will prolly go up if it gets approval thou
06:14.48geesusi'll be getting mine from the US anyway
06:14.50Pete_Largohow do I add a digit to the dial string in extensions.conf?  if a user dials 2125551212, how do I add a 1 on front to dial 12125551212?
06:15.14geesusisnt that in the dial plan?
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06:15.52xeet2pete: you can't add to ${EXTEN}, there are two ways to do that though
06:16.13xeet2first one is, just do a Goto(context,1${EXTEN})
06:16.41xeet2second one is, grab the exten and put it inside a variable, add a one to that variable and use that to dial
06:16.42[x0r]geesus: there is a place in .au selling htem
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06:17.26xeet2pete: if this is for just dial-out stuff, just duplicate your _NXXNXXXXXX to _1NXXNXXXXXX
06:19.01geesus[x0r]: yea dude, 2 places I know of
06:19.20Juggieholy crap
06:19.20[x0r]found a couple of openlines on ebay, might have to have a shot
06:19.27Juggiewhat a bunch of crap answers :_
06:19.29Juggie:)
06:19.35geesusozvoip.com and the digium reseller austechpartnerships.com
06:19.38xeet2anyone willing to do some call termination testing?
06:19.51geesusOH openline4's, nfi man I just found out about them today
06:19.57Juggieexten=> _NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(Zap/g1/1${EXTEN})
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06:20.06Juggiethats how you add one when you dial.
06:20.29Pete_Largothanks Juggie, I thought that made sense
06:20.34[x0r]says they are supported on * hardware list, they are under 100 at the mo so cant hurt
06:20.40xeet2juggie: yeah, but if he's trying to do add a 1 to a did for inbound, bit different
06:21.09Pete_Largooutbound calls sir
06:21.35Juggie:)
06:21.56[x0r]well, there were a couple of openlines on ebay for under 100, not the case now thou
06:22.41geesusheh, shit is never convient when you want it :P
06:22.57xeet2erg, someone needs to make a cheap fxo ata that does g.168
06:23.15Pete_Largowhy would I get this when I place a call using broadvoice via asterisk, but not direct?  http://pastebin.ca/12406
06:23.35[x0r]the thing is, cid works from time to time on the x100, but most of the time throws the checksum error prob
06:23.49xeet2pete: you have to set your from domain for broadvoice
06:24.22Pete_Largoin sip.conf xeet2?
06:24.55xeet2yeah, fromdomain=sip.broadvoice.com
06:25.11Pete_Largofromdomain when dialing out?
06:25.15Pete_Largothat's funky
06:25.20xeet2in your peer config
06:25.24Pete_Largobut it's in there
06:25.47xeet2do you also have a fromuser= in there?
06:26.21Pete_Largohttp://pastebin.ca/12407
06:26.28Pete_Largois sip.conf section for broadvoice
06:27.28xeet2are fromuser and username the same?
06:27.54xeet2also try taking out authname
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06:28.14ramthahi
06:28.44Pete_Largoyes, and ok
06:28.48ramthahow can i change the permission of a voice file, directly on writing the file?
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06:29.02Pete_Largodidn't work
06:29.05xeet2hmmmm
06:29.23Pete_Largoinvalid from?
06:29.27xeet2you have username and fromuser set to your phone number right?
06:30.10Pete_Largoyes
06:30.22geesus[x0r]: nfi dude, until I get a multiport card im not allowed to play with asterisk :P
06:30.43[x0r]lol
06:30.58xeet2pete_largo: did you add sip.broadvoice.com into your /etc/hosts file?
06:31.07Pete_Largoyessir
06:31.15[x0r]i have also seen reports that ppl have got CID working on a X100 with telstra, but stuffed if it will work (consistently for me)
06:31.25[x0r]anyone else had a go with CID on telstra / x100 ?
06:31.29xeet2Pete_Largo: are you able to register?
06:31.35Pete_Largoyessir
06:31.38geesusim not allowed to do alot of things lately :(
06:31.39xeet2wow
06:31.40xeet2odd
06:31.48geesusim not allowed to go to cebit unless I drive to coolengatta
06:31.49Pete_Largohercules*CLI> sip show registry
06:31.49Pete_LargoHost                            Username       Refresh State
06:31.49Pete_Largosip.broadvoice.com:5060         2142421777@s      3584 Registered
06:31.59xeet2broadvoice always acted quirky
06:32.01xeet2for me
06:32.06Pete_Largoit's strange all right
06:32.20xeet2but never that quirky
06:35.14xeet2Pete_Largo: don't know what to tell you...  you could try calling them but they've been bad about answering, and they've been down alot lately
06:35.35Pete_Largoyeah, took 4 hours to get my login id fromt hem
06:35.39Pete_Largofrom them rather
06:36.33Pete_Largoat this rate I'll never figure all this stuff out :(
06:38.53Pete_Largois there a way to clear the screen from the CLI> prompt?
06:39.06xeet2Pete: I might be able to help tomorrow, will you be at your office?
06:39.18Pete_Largoyessir
06:39.20xeet2you could hold down the enter button a while =)
06:39.30Pete_Largothat's what I did :)
06:39.42xeet2ok, I'll be giving you a call, I need to talk to you about a few things anyway
06:39.48Pete_Largosounds good
06:39.54QwellPete_Largo: quit, asterisk -r
06:39.59xeet2hehe
06:40.01Pete_Largolol
06:40.09xeet2someone really should write a clear command
06:40.09Pete_LargoI almost fell for that ;)
06:40.19Pete_Largoyes someone should... hint hint
06:40.20Qwellfell for what?
06:40.36xeet2=)
06:41.09QwellPete_Largo: If asterisk is running as a service, you can quit, and reconnect easily, without doing any har,
06:41.13Qwellharm
06:41.14Pete_LargoQwell, that still doesn't clear the screen
06:41.41Qwellhmm, I suppose it doesn't
06:41.45Qwellthrow a reset in there
06:42.01Pete_LargoI could quit then clear;asterisk -r
06:42.27[x0r]just do the normal tail -f trick and hold the enter key down for a bit to clear the screen
06:42.35Qwellheh
06:42.41tzafrirsimply use '!clear'
06:42.51Qwell!, clear, ctrl-D
06:42.53Qwelloh, you can execute commands like that?
06:42.58Qwellahh, neat
06:43.02Pete_Largowow tzafrir is right, that worked
06:43.10tzafrir(or 'clear' from outside the cli)
06:43.17Qwellwell, I was on the right track :p
06:45.15Pete_Largothat's a neat trick tzafrir
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07:11.55Pete_Largoquestion, should this entry in extensions.conf route an incoming call to phone 1002?   exten => s,1,dial(1002)
07:12.37Juggieno, because you arnt saying how to route
07:12.43Juggieyou need SIP/1002
07:12.45Juggieor whatever
07:12.46Pete_Largoahhh!
07:12.48Pete_LargoI see
07:12.50Juggiehas to include the technology
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07:18.01pranavhello everyone
07:19.34pranavi have configured my asterisk, but now if i want to call another person in another country, so how to register him with asterisk
07:20.43pranavhello someone
07:21.55Pete_Largodamn, still isn't coming in
07:22.25Zeeeksounds like a bad weekend all round...
07:22.43Pete_Largoterrible
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07:24.26Pete_Largosip debug peer shows that the from is showing from ext 1002 instead of from my phone number
07:25.24Pete_Largowhere would I change what I am sending out when I dial out?
07:25.24Zeeekpranav you have to create user accounts and extensions
07:25.40Pete_Largofor a 'from'?
07:25.41ZeeekPete_Largo : callerid ?
07:25.54Zeeekthe phone itself?
07:26.16Zeeekwhere is ext 1002 entered? sounds like the phone
07:26.23Pete_Largothat's the phone
07:26.32Pete_Largobut it's using the * to dial out.
07:26.33Zeeekso change the phone to say what you want
07:26.40Pete_Largo* should change to what it needs to be
07:26.46Zeeekyou can do that too
07:26.52Pete_LargoI can't change the phone for every different provider.
07:26.58Zeeekwhy not?
07:27.40Pete_Largowell, becauase my voipjet phone number is different from my broadvoice phone number which is different from my broadvox phone number which is different from my FWD number, etc
07:28.10Zeeekand? I change mine for every provider. Everyone does
07:28.38JuggiePete_Largo, * can
07:28.43Pete_Largoyou change your caller id every time you make a phone call?
07:28.47Juggieyou just put it in your dialplan
07:28.50Zeeekin asterisk dialplan, sure
07:28.52Pete_Largothat's my question
07:29.02JuggieSetCallerID
07:29.02Pete_Largowhere in the dial plan do I change that?
07:29.05Juggieis a dialplan function
07:29.08Pete_Largohmm
07:29.09Zeeekshow application setcallerid
07:29.18JuggiePete_Largo, www.voip-info.org
07:29.21Juggiego read
07:29.24Zeeekgoogle asterisk macros
07:29.47Pete_LargoI've been reading till my eyes bleed
07:29.54Zeeeknot the right stuff
07:30.03Zeeekthis is pretty basic, must have skipped it
07:30.32JuggiePete_Largo, if you are using dif providers you will have to do special stuff in your dialplan
07:30.34Juggiefor example
07:30.50Juggiebroadvoice and broadvox both allow u to dial LD
07:31.08Zeeekhttp://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20cmd%20SetCallerID
07:31.08Juggieso you need a way to distinguish between which provider to use when you dial
07:31.10Pete_Largogee, I have printed out 'the asterisk handbook' and 'the asterisk documentation project volume one: an introduction to asterisk' both sitting on my desk well thumbed.
07:31.24Zeeekread the above - it's short
07:31.48Juggieso you could use for example 2*XXXXXXXXXX to dial outbound with broadvoice, and 3*XXXXXXXXXX to dial out with broadvox
07:32.29Juggieand then in the dialplan you would set your proper CID fo those providers, but in the meantime, why do you need to set cid, why does the outbound CID matter? do those providers force you to set your CID to the one they provide?
07:32.37Juggieyou should be able to set anything? or is it locked
07:32.51ZeeekJuggie sometimes it does matter
07:33.05Pete_LargoI don't know, someone said that's what I need to do.
07:33.24Juggieok well then you have to do it in your dialplan
07:33.44Juggieyou can just use SetCallerIDNumber
07:33.46Zeeekfor example, suppose you have a nufone DID and you call out on nufone to an 800 number. Some places will not accept (not answer) 866 numbers so you have to pretend to be a normal number
07:33.53Juggieif you want to set the number, and leave the name intact
07:34.36Pete_LargoI cannot place a call through broadvoice (which is the only provider I have tried yet, since I am still trying to learn)....  the sip debug peer is showing "from Ext 1002" and the call is failing due to invalid from, so I assume that I have to tell asterisk to tell broadvoice that the call is from my bv phone number...
07:35.00Pete_LargoI just guessing here
07:35.10Zeeekmaybe you need to use fromuser in the peer def
07:35.15Pete_LargoI did that
07:35.26Juggiein sip.conf set callerid="Some name <111-111-1111>"
07:38.48pranavZeeek:supoose i make a user account and give you an extension, will i be able to give you a call through asterisk
07:39.01Zeeekyes pranav that's how it works
07:39.13pranav<PROTECTED>
07:39.15Zeeekthe user client has to register with yiour asterisk
07:39.33Zeeekoh I think you mean you want to call phones
07:39.44Zeeekregular PSTN telephones?
07:39.49pranavyes i want to call you through asterisk
07:39.57pranavno not pstn
07:40.01Zeeekbut 'me' has a PC or just a telephone
07:40.03Zeeek?
07:40.37pranavsee i have a voip phone and i want to call you on your voip phone which is registered to my asterisk
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07:41.37pranavZeeek?
07:41.37Zeeekit's all free
07:41.46pranavok fine i got it
07:41.47Zeeekjust the cost of internet connection
07:41.57Zeeekyou don't even need asterisk!
07:42.03Zeeekjust get a free account at FWD
07:42.38Pete_Largothat didn't work juggie
07:42.44Pete_Largosame failure
07:42.53Pete_Largohttp://pastebin.ca/12409
07:43.22Pete_Largolook at line 3 and then line 5
07:43.36pranavso if i have fwd and that is registered to my ip phone and you also have ip phone registered to fwd then we can tal;k freely
07:43.51ZeeekYes, that statement is accurate
07:44.24pranavok then i'll register with fwd
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07:45.53Zeeekgood choice
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07:47.43RoyKdoes anyone know if I can use SER to handle all athentication and only have a generic setup on asterisk?
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07:48.12Zeeekonly if all phones are Farfon
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07:53.46truescotplease is there anyone who can help me understand how i can route an incomming call over an e1 line to the appropriate extension by taking the number dialled by the incomming caller and using the last 4 digits from it
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07:55.52RoyKtruescot: dial(Zap/g1/${CALLERID:4}) or something
07:55.55RoyKiirc
07:57.11Zeeeknot callerid because he means digits dialed
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07:58.31ZeeekPete_Largo did you reload sip? If so, try restarting instead
07:58.40Pete_LargoI did reload
07:59.00Zeeekpastebin the extension you use
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08:02.59truescottheres loadsa documentation bout fxo and fxs but there is sod all bout pri it seams
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08:04.47Pete_Largohttp://pastebin.ca/12410
08:06.17Zeeekso you didn't change the callerid in extensions?
08:06.41Zeeeksince I still see Ext 1002
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08:07.18Pete_Largowhere do you see 1002?
08:07.30Pete_Largoand 1002 is the extension that I am at.
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08:08.24Zeeekin the sip dump - that was uyour original complaint
08:08.40Pete_Largomy extension is 1002
08:09.04Zeeekyou said you wanted to change that
08:09.25Zeeekby the way:
08:09.28Pete_LargoI cannot place a call from extension 1002 out using broadvoice.  I _think_ this is because * is sending out "Ext 1002" as the from instead of my bv phone number.
08:09.33pycsuszHi everybody! I need some help! I use Varion V400P PRI card and when I call the income line then I get this message: asterisk*CLI>
08:09.33pycsusz<PROTECTED>
08:09.33pycsusz<PROTECTED>
08:09.33pycsuszMay 23 10:06:32 WARNING[4981]: chan_zap.c:7149 zt_pri_error: PRI: received SETUP message for call that is not a new call, wicked!!!
08:09.33pycsusz<PROTECTED>
08:09.34ZeeekFrom: ""Ext 1002"
08:09.35pycsuszasterisk*CLI>
08:09.48Zeeeknotice the two double quotes?
08:10.04Pete_LargoI don't even know where the Ext 1002 is coming from, I didn't put it anywhere
08:10.19Zeeekyou're not making easy to help you
08:10.49Pete_LargoI wish I could, I am very new to this, I'm sorry.  and I do appreciate the help
08:11.10Zeeektry to say what it is you want
08:11.24Zeeekbesides make a call on BV
08:11.29Pete_Largolol
08:11.36Pete_LargoI think I might have found it...
08:11.40Pete_Largolet me try this
08:11.59Pete_Largoholy crap!
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08:12.09Pete_Largoit was right there in front of my face the whole time
08:12.21Zeeekmaybe it's time to go to bed?
08:13.11Pete_Largothe [1002] section of sip.conf had a callerid="Ext 1002 <1002>
08:13.13forrestc{hm}But of course I'm not going to for a while.
08:13.25Pete_Largonotice the missing " after the first 1002
08:13.44Zeeekdon't use quotes at all (in spite of the docs that say to do so)
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08:14.16cjkhello is there something more hard than soft hangup for example hard hangup :)
08:14.26Pete_Largoit works fine now with the closing "
08:14.29Pete_Largoshould I take it out?
08:14.32Zeeekyes
08:14.41cjkanyone here using realtime voicemail?
08:14.42Zeeekapparently it crashes some phones
08:15.02pycsuszasterisk*CLI>
08:15.06pycsuszHi everybody! I need some help! I use Varion V400P PRI card and when I call the income line then I get this message: asterisk*CLI>
08:15.08pycsuszasterisk*CLI>
08:15.18Pete_Largoworks like a charm!
08:15.24Pete_LargoThanks a million Zeeek
08:15.27Zeeekpycsusz use http://pastebin.ca please
08:15.35Zeeekglad it works
08:15.38pycsuszok sorry
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08:20.11Pete_LargoHave I used up all my questions for the night?
08:22.00Zeeekthis is an unlimited questions plan
08:22.03pycsuszZeeek http://pastebin.ca/12412
08:22.09Zeeekotherwise, it'd be pay as you go
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08:22.41Zeeekpycsusz I don't know anything about that. Wait a while and ask the question again with the pastebin link. Someone may be here to help
08:23.05pycsuszZeek thank you!
08:23.06Zeeeknot that many awake at this hour
08:24.26ZeeekPete_Largo ask away who knows what you might find
08:24.40Pete_LargoZeeek RE: pycsusz -iis there a debug setting that might give more info?
08:24.50Pete_LargoI'm going to hold my questions until I read a little more
08:24.51Pete_Largo:)
08:25.12ZeeekHave you seen this:
08:25.14ZeeekInstalling linux, asterisk X100P, TDM400, SIP config, Vmail, parking and many other sexy topics
08:25.14Zeeekhttp://automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm
08:25.38Zeeekand these:
08:25.39Zeeekhttp://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/07/03/asterisk.html
08:25.39Zeeekhttp://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2004/01/22/asterisk2.html
08:26.00Zeeekboth are nice logical intros to most of what you need to know
08:26.52Pete_LargoWell, I can make and receive broadvoice calls now, maybe It'll get easier from here.
08:27.14Pete_Largonext I need to set up voipjet, fwd, broadvox, and ??????? who knows
08:27.47Zeeekmost of those give you the setup info anyway
08:28.01Zeeekjust add setcallerid and stir
08:28.13Pete_Largostir?
08:28.26Pete_Largo~stir
08:28.42slePPas in: 'Just add Water and Stir.'
08:28.45Pete_Largooh
08:28.48Zeeekshaken not stirred
08:28.57Zeeeknow go to bed
08:29.02Pete_LargoI thought I missed another acronym
08:29.05gordonjcpheh
08:29.11Zeeekno you were thinking of STIR
08:29.20Pete_Largocan't sleep, must read more asterisk docs
08:29.29ZeeekSimple Test for Idiot Reduction
08:29.32pycsuszPete_Largo where do I have to use this attribute (-iis)
08:29.45Pete_Largono attribute, typo
08:29.48Pete_Largoiis = is
08:29.52Pete_Largoit was a question
08:29.53pycsuszsorry
08:29.55pycsuszok
08:30.00Pete_Largois there anything you can type to get more info
08:30.17pycsuszI don't know
08:30.21gordonjcpcan anyone suggest a good VoIP porvider in the US?
08:30.22Pete_Largowhy sorry?  I should be sorry for having fat fingers
08:30.32gordonjcpsomething like sipgate, but for US PSTN
08:30.33pycsusz:)
08:30.44Zeeekgordonjcp wiki, google etc
08:31.06gordonjcpZeeek: tried that
08:31.14Zeeeknothing?
08:31.20Zeeekhelp google
08:31.25gordonjcpZeeek: google produces lots of "XXX GET RINGTONE BEST PRICE XXX" sites
08:31.26Pete_LargoI've heard good things about voipjet
08:31.38slePPhttp://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=VOIP%20Service%20Providers%20by%20Country
08:31.39cjkasterisk is really not using my realtime mysql voicemail  table? anyone an idea?
08:31.46forrestc{hm}We're using voipjet here and it seems pretty good.
08:31.56gordonjcpvoipjet... will look into that
08:32.04Zeeekgordonjcp I just type "asterisk voip provider" in google and see a shitload of info
08:32.17gordonjcphm
08:32.23Zeeekso fix your google
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08:33.14forrestc{hm}The main thing you want to watch is your connectivity between you and your provider.
08:33.44Zeeekhere are a few of the top of my helmet: nufone, voicepulse connect, voipjet, voiptalk, teliax, iconnecthere
08:34.03gordonjcpforrestc{hm}: I'm interested to see what kind of quality I get from here
08:34.04forrestc{hm}There are quite a few good ones out there...  we were using nufone and it was great, but our cross-net latency sucked.
08:34.14Zeeekgordonjcp you must have the language settings wrong or something
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08:35.11Zeeekthat's cool
08:35.24forrestc{hm}gordonjcp: make sure you ping the provider and/or do a traceroute.
08:35.36Zeeekbut then a provider can be at 10ms and have a shit connection to US PSTN
08:35.42slePPZeeek: yeh
08:35.51slePPZeeek: but hey, i'm the carrier, so it's all good :>
08:36.01Zeeekso you need to do a test account free first, which btw voipjet offers.
08:36.06ZeeekslePP heh
08:36.35forrestc{hm}pretty much everyone is ~80-100 from here... but we're using voipjet because their westcost server is only about 50-60 ms.
08:36.35ZeeekI'm trying to get some local providers to let me test them free
08:36.46Zeeekthey have the best rates
08:36.55ZeeekI am in Paris slePP
08:37.19forrestc{hm}I just wish I could find a Bogota, Columbia DID.  I've got a board member who wants one.
08:37.28Zeeekin testing free accounts, voipbuster is usually 10ms but they become unreachable very often
08:37.47ZeeekI need to try some calls with them to see how good the quality is
08:37.55slePPforrestc{hm}: check pm.
08:38.02Zeeekforrestc{hm} have you asked on biz ?
08:40.24Zeeekgordonjcp check this out: http://voxilla.com/compare/compare.php?typeid=1&mode=type
08:41.01Zeeekhehe, "AOL Internet Phone Service" that must be great... NOT!
08:41.08slePPnice
08:42.16Zeeekwe used it all the time with dialup in the 90's
08:42.22ZeeekDialpad!
08:42.39Zeeekand often heard "sir, you're breaking up!" from the called party
08:43.01slePPit was just opening /dev/dsp on a linux box, runing the audio stream into gzip, and piping it over tcp to a remote end
08:43.03slePPthat was amusing
08:43.09Zeeekdialpd was doing it in the 90's, first free - still around
08:43.38ZeeekslePP with a lag of 2500ms ?
08:43.43slePPback when my 486dx4-100 was a powerhouse :>
08:43.57Zeeekdx4? that would be!
08:44.12slePPthe 14.4 dialup never quite pulled off realtime communications when it was just gzip'd
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08:44.44ZeeekslePP you should be on this list
08:44.45Zeeekhttp://voxilla.com/compare/compare.php?typeid=1&mode=type
08:44.57Zeeekmaybe you don't do retail?
08:45.17cjkZeeek: maybe voipgate.com could work for you, they are in luxembourg and i think they will get french did's soon
08:45.22slePPoh, that's US Service Providers
08:45.23slePPwe're canadian
08:45.41Zeeekah.
08:45.57Zeeekyou have your own list
08:45.58slePPhttp://voxilla.ca/
08:46.00slePP:>
08:46.10Zeeekcoming soon?
08:46.28slePPlooks like it
08:46.56Zeeekcjk thanks for your comment, I'm talking to people here in Paris with 10ms which is excellent compared to many
08:47.14ZeeekI just need to test them to see how stable they are
08:48.00Zeeekthere is a retail unlimited nationa plan here for 6eu/month from wengo.fr which works great, but they pulled the rug out a few days ago by changing login and not telling anyone
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08:53.55slePPi think it should be time for bed now
08:54.03Zeeek11AM here
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08:54.47slePPyeh, that's usually my bedtime :>
08:54.50slePPonly 3am here
08:54.56slePPbut it is a holiday, so i can take the night early
08:55.31RoyKanyone that knows a good, stable ztdummy replacement?
08:55.38RoyKI can't use ztdummy - wrong usb chipset
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08:57.16slePPzaprtc
08:58.29slePPnini
08:58.48djinI'm preparing for an Asterisk presentation this Wednesday and I'm looking for some cases on successful implementations. Any ideas besides the cases on Digium and Voip-info? I'm looking for large configurations.
08:59.56djinI've read on large IVR setups, but can't find it anymore.
09:00.34forrestc{hm}So what motherboards are people using successfully with asterisk?  I've got an interrupt issue with one that I'm using and I want to make sure I get one which is known working.
09:01.42djinCool, I've found the info on: http://www.voip-info.org/tiki-index.php?page=Asterisk%20dimensioning
09:01.48gordonjcpforrestc{hm}: Compaq PII 350 Deskpro SFF
09:02.27gordonjcpforrestc{hm}: I've also used a cheap and crappy Chaintech VIA82C686-based board, and some sort of unidentifiable Athlon board
09:03.14forrestc{hm}What digium hardware have you used in these?
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09:04.16forrestc{hm}my problem is that zttest doesn't get all the samples.
09:04.26forrestc{hm}and it causes popping issues.
09:04.38truescoti'm using a dell gx280 with an intel mboard and a diguim te110p and tdm400p cards
09:04.42RoyKforrestc{hm}: what does /proc/interrupts say?
09:04.58RoyKforrestc{hm}: pastebin it, please
09:05.05RoyK~pastebin
09:05.07jbotsomebody said pastebin was a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca
09:05.15forrestc{hm}<PROTECTED>
09:05.20forrestc{hm}Ooops too late.
09:05.21forrestc{hm}:)
09:05.27RoyKjust one line
09:05.28RoyKno prob
09:05.49forrestc{hm}I'm pretty certain it's that Linux doesn't like the IDE controllers.
09:06.08forrestc{hm}I don't really want to leave Asterisk on this hardware anyways.
09:06.09RoyKforrestc{hm}: hdparm -d /dev/hd?
09:06.32forrestc{hm}using_dma    =  1 (on)
09:06.46forrestc{hm}But it's only running at 33
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09:07.25truescotlinux kernal 2.4 doesnt like sata btw
09:07.29RoyKforrestc{hm}: that's normal, i think
09:07.35RoyKlinux 2.4 is evil
09:07.39truescotmost bios's will allow you to set in in combination mode tho
09:07.40RoyKforrestc{hm}: what kernel?
09:07.47RoyKforrestc{hm}: is this sata or pata?
09:07.57forrestc{hm}pata... 2.4.21
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09:08.16forrestc{hm}Like I said, I really *don't* want to run this on this hardware permanently.
09:08.22forrestc{hm}After all it is a $6K box.
09:08.23RoyKforrestc{hm}: considered trying 2.6 on that?
09:08.38RoyKI've run asterisk on less than that
09:08.44RoyKsuccessfully
09:09.30forrestc{hm}Let me re-state... This is an Athlon 64, 4GB memory, etc. etc. etc, which I have another purpose in mind for.
09:09.49carloshhello everyone: can anyone help with some E1 (te110p) questions? I have it installed but I get this when doing pri show span 1 <enter>: Provisioned, In Alarm, Down, Active
09:10.11forrestc{hm}I'd really like to find a known-good Pentium IV motherboard and move it to there.
09:10.16carloshhow can I bring the interface up?
09:10.42forrestc{hm}carlosh: do you know what errors you are getting?
09:10.51carloshi have red light on the card..  yellow alarms
09:11.40carloshCLI> pri show span 1
09:11.40carloshphonet*CLI> Primary D-channel: 16
09:11.40carloshphonet*CLI> Status: Provisioned, In Alarm, Down, Active
09:11.40carloshphonet*CLI> Switchtype: EuroISDN
09:11.40carloshphonet*CLI> Type: CPE
09:11.41carloshphonet*CLI> Window Length: 0/7
09:11.43carloshphonet*CLI> Sentrej: 0
09:11.45carloshphonet*CLI> SolicitFbit: 0
09:11.47carloshphonet*CLI> Retrans: 0
09:11.49carloshphonet*CLI> Busy: 0
09:11.51carloshphonet*CLI> Overlap Dial: 0
09:12.01forrestc{hm}Yellow usually means that the far end isn't right
09:12.18forrestc{hm}Is 16 where the D channel is?
09:12.22carloshi am trying to get the clock from the NT..
09:12.29carloshyep
09:12.52carloshfor E1 (32 channels) 16 is D
09:13.24forrestc{hm}And you are sure you haven't got tx/rx backwards?
09:13.43carloshhow can I check that?
09:14.05forrestc{hm}let me say it differently.. Does the state of the lights change as you plug/don't plug the cable in?
09:14.31forrestc{hm}What does zttool tell you?
09:16.32carloshzttool: Alarms: YEL  .. Sync cource: Internally clocked... IRQ misses: 0, Bipolar viol: 0, TX/RX levels: 0, total conf act: 31/11/0 and  bunch of numbers...
09:18.16forrestc{hm}Is your switch type set up correctly>?
09:19.49forrestc{hm}What card did you say you had?
09:20.12carloshforrestc{hm} honestly, I'm not sure. I think perhaps I should be either taking the clock from the NT.. or the other way around.. ? TE110P
09:21.09forrestc{hm}I'm used to US PRI and Europe does things differently.
09:21.35forrestc{hm}This is for sure PRI, right?
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09:22.27carloshzttool is saying it's internally clocked.. I think it's wrong.. I did define in zaptel.conf: span=1,2,0,ccs,hdb3... yes, PRI, only 10 channels enabled to start with..
09:23.54forrestc{hm}does crc4 on the end make a difference?
09:24.28carloshsame thing..
09:24.42forrestc{hm}You did reload the driver afterward sright?
09:25.15carloshdo you know how to disable (unload) the driver ? I want to reload everytime I change anything in zaptel.conf
09:26.40carloshrmmod..
09:26.41forrestc{hm}modprobe -r or rmmod
09:27.59forrestc{hm}The clocking parameter should probably be 1 instead of 2.
09:28.36carloshI'll try that.. will be back in a minute, it seems it's locked.. I tried to unload also zaptel and has * running...
09:28.58forrestc{hm}Oh yeah..  I forgot .. Unload asterisk first.
09:29.51carloshyou from digium?
09:29.57forrestc{hm}nope.
09:30.04forrestc{hm}Just another asterisk user.
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09:31.47tzafrirhowever before you rmmod a *zaptel* module, you should stop asterisk
09:31.58carloshI am happy and excited cos I have it running on a 64bit (amd) FC3 x86_64... all looks great, and I'm this close..
09:32.56carloshnow after reboot, it says: unconfigured.. (in zttool)
09:33.44forrestc{hm}The modules did get loaded, right?
09:33.50forrestc{hm}And ztcfg got ran?
09:34.36carloshit says now OK !!!!
09:34.57carloshI will include ztcfg into load script..
09:34.59forrestc{hm}That's good.
09:35.05carloshYAHOOOO!!!!
09:35.13carloshgee, can't believe this..
09:35.33forrestc{hm}Hey, just curious, what does zttest -v show on your system?
09:35.54carloshpri show span 1 says : Provisioned, Up, Active
09:36.32carloshetc]# zttest -v
09:36.32carlosh-bash: zttest: command not found
09:36.50forrestc{hm}Never mind.. It's a separate tool.
09:37.24carloshmaking a phone call to this E1... what's the bloody number?...  :)
09:38.40carloshnothing.. maybe I need to set up something in my extensions.conf...
09:39.30carloshit works! I dialled now from a phone connected to my other * server..
09:39.47carloshI got: CLI>
09:39.47carlosh<PROTECTED>
09:39.54carloshhaha..
09:39.56carloshworks..
09:40.39carloshThanks for the help forrestc{hm}
09:41.07carloshit was brilliant..
09:41.15forrestc{hm}Hey not a problem.
09:41.34carloshI'm off to set up my dialplan...
09:41.35forrestc{hm}Just a matter of having dealt with it a couple of times.
09:41.51carloshcheers
09:41.57forrestc{hm}l8r
09:42.03carloshl8r
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09:44.22JamesDotComdoes anyone in here have the sipura provisioning guide? they take forever to respond :\
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09:55.11echionHi, can anyone tell my why I get this in asterisk?  Forbidden - wrong password on authentication for INVITE to 'xxx' xxxxx...
09:57.46Zeeeklooks like you have a wrong password?
10:00.59echionwhich is weird, since this machine doesn't require a password
10:01.08Zeeekthat's wrong
10:01.59Zeeekapparently...
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10:20.54Zeeekabout termination and origination, can someone enlighten me?
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10:21.43Zeeekooops lunchtime
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10:22.09onkeltimmmahlzeit!
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10:29.56der[mat]hi *
10:30.11der[mat]i have a question for isdn harware
10:30.34der[mat]will it works with an passive fritz!card PCI?
10:31.57der[mat]or only with the cards on the harwarelist eg wildcard?
10:36.58onkeltimmder[mat]: http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+How+to+connect+with+CAPI
10:38.01der[mat]onkeltimm: thx
10:38.17onkeltimmgoogle ist dein freund
10:38.18der[mat]*notice* www.voip-info.org
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10:38.31der[mat]onkeltimm: das hab ich schon bemüht
10:38.51der[mat]aber nur hinweise auf fritz active (b1) gefunde
10:40.08der[mat]+n
10:42.23onkeltimm~docs
10:42.24jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
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10:49.20my007mshello all
10:50.40my007msi try call my ISP man time at it give me busy can i make some thing like auto redial with asterisk
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10:53.34rabelaismy007ms: it's a very bad idea to irc as root, switch to a normal user
10:54.28my007msi don't have some thing too lose in this server ;)
10:55.41iheartcanada<PROTECTED>
10:55.54der[mat]iheartcanada: :)
10:56.57my007msthen do u have idea how to make this auto redail
10:58.19tzafrirmy007ms, you can detect from the dialplan if a line is busy and act accordingly
10:58.57tzafrirYou can also create a non-root user and use it to connect to this channel
10:59.05tzafrirwhat distro do you use?
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10:59.34Delvarmy007ms: exten => _X.,n,gotoif([ ${DIALRESULT} = BUSSY ]?${dialPriority})
10:59.47Delvarmy007ms: or something like that...
11:00.19Delvarmy007ms: look at macro-stdexten in sample config
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11:10.15iheartcanadawhat's an inexpensive way to get started with asterisk?
11:10.25iheartcanadawhat are the required hw?
11:11.38tzafrira PC, and soft-phones
11:11.58iheartcanadawhat about that pstn gateway box or whatever
11:12.26tzafrirCheapest X100P clones are less than 10$ .
11:12.27gordonjcpiheartcanada: only if you want to talk to the pstn...
11:12.46iheartcanadai think i do want to talk to the pstn
11:12.47tzafrirThen again, don't complain about the quality
11:12.59tzafrirAlso consider ISDN
11:13.09iheartcanadawell somewhere between USD$70-USD$20, how about that?
11:13.18iheartcanadano, no isdn
11:13.21iheartcanadahome use
11:13.43iheartcanadaany links to these X100P clones?
11:14.09tzafrirsearch in ebay for x100p or x101p
11:14.32iheartcanadawill do
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11:14.56iheartcanadaif the x100p is the thing to get, why did digium discontinue it?
11:15.27iheartcanadathey should just keep selling it
11:15.37JunK-Yiheartcanada: get a TDM400
11:15.41tzafrirDigium will sell you a better card, but for much more (starting from ~100$ or more)
11:16.00iheartcanadaoh
11:16.01gordonjcpiheartcanada: possibly because the chip it's based on has been discontinued?
11:18.26iheartcanadaoh
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11:18.54MikeJ[Laptop]junky?
11:19.15JunK-Yy0
11:19.19festr_hello, i'm heaving troubles with SIP channel, sometime after successfull registration (GS) phone could not registred (registration failed) until restart of asterisk
11:19.29festr_wny idea?
11:19.34festr_CVS stable
11:19.37MikeJ[Laptop]heh... shoulda just seen if you were here..
11:19.46iheartcanadaso with a tdm400p i can set up asterisk for a small office with up to 4 business lines coming in
11:19.49MikeJ[Laptop]status has no space allocated to it
11:19.56iheartcanadajust regular lines, no need for isdn/t1
11:20.01MikeJ[Laptop]and strcpy does not allocate
11:20.03JunK-Ysaw it
11:20.08MikeJ[Laptop]hehe
11:20.19MikeJ[Laptop]oops, missed that first time around
11:20.46festr_noone here trouble with registration failed SIP?
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11:24.51JunK-Yiheartcanada: yes.
11:25.23MikeJ[Laptop]iheartcanada, with IP phones, yes..
11:25.26iheartcanadai bet a tdm400p cost serious money, even with 1 line
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11:25.47iheartcanadathank you guys for all the advice
11:25.52iheartcanadagood stuff
11:25.52MikeJ[Laptop]depends what "serious" money is
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11:26.18iheartcanadawell how much does a proprietary pbx cost for a small office?
11:26.33iheartcanadacan you chain tdm400p? (like use up all the pci slots?)
11:26.35guyeeHi, NE grandstream gurus here?
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11:28.43iheartcanadaah i see, the FXS allows a regular telephone to connect to the network
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11:30.42iheartcanadaso for a TDM400P + 4 FXO (for 4 lines) it's about CAD$125 per line
11:30.43iheartcanadaor USD$337 for the bundle
11:30.43iheartcanadathis is assuming everyone makes/receives the calls from their PC?
11:32.54darwin35they need to make the tdm multi line on each port
11:32.54darwin35then the card would be perfect
11:34.42Delvarif you need that many lines why not get ISDN ?
11:35.04pycsuszHi Everybody! I have got problems with the outcalling and the incalling, I hope that somebody can help me.
11:35.12pycsuszhttp://pastebin.ca/12416
11:35.16Delvarfor existing analog lines we usualy use mediatrix, and sip toasterisk
11:36.22MikeJ[Laptop]iheartcanada, or if they use an IP phone...
11:36.38MikeJ[Laptop]you get much richer funtionality on those phones
11:37.19MikeJ[Laptop]and a traditional pbx will be around $1000 per seat including phones, astersik easily comes in at 1/2 that
11:38.22MikeJ[Laptop]pycsusz, Everyone is busy/congested at this time
11:39.21pycsuszno it's not true only the asterisk say it :)
11:39.21pycsuszI can't call in and call out
11:39.21iheartcanadaoh
11:39.21MikeJ[Laptop]pycsusz, your not giving us much to work with here
11:39.24iheartcanadajust thought i'd say thank you all for all the introductory information
11:39.32MikeJ[Laptop]no problem
11:39.37iheartcanadaare they putting out asterisks books now days? i coulduse one right aboutnow
11:39.56MikeJ[Laptop]there are one or two getting ready to go now, yes
11:40.10iheartcanadaMikeJ[Laptop]: yeah that sounds like the thing to consider, $1000 per seat is alot
11:40.17pycsuszMikeJ[Laptop] What do you need?
11:40.17MikeJ[Laptop]the one that's out right now is no good
11:40.22iheartcanadaplus i can't do self administrations
11:40.31MikeJ[Laptop]1000 a seat is what used to be standard.. think that
11:40.32iheartcanadawith a proprietary system
11:40.42MikeJ[Laptop]usually no
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11:45.32guyeedoes anyone know why my phone displays only the first digit of the dialed number?
11:47.01Zeeekis it a grandstream?
11:47.08guyeeyep :)
11:47.18Zeeekyou dial too fast - it can't keep up
11:47.33guyeehm...
11:47.38Zeeeknot kidding
11:47.57guyeeI tried it slower, but nothing has changed
11:48.00Zeeekmine loses digits in the display if I dial fast!
11:48.12Zeeekwhat firmware?
11:48.26guyeeit works perfectly no matter how fast I dial, but only with early dial switched on
11:48.34Zeeekodd
11:48.39guyeeit's a GXP-2000 with a...
11:49.14guyee0.8.1.9 beta firware... i got it last friday from grandstream
11:49.40Zeeekah.... I have BT100
11:49.43guyeeso it should be the latest :)
11:50.23guyee:/
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11:51.47guyeebut if you dial slowly, then the displayed number is OK, even with early dial enabled, right?
11:52.06ZeeekI don't have early dial, I like the call button
11:52.10guyee:)
11:52.45Zeeekin fact I'm very happy with the BT102 for home use. If it did callername display it's be perfect at the price level.
11:53.19guyeegxp-2000 does (with the beta fw) :)
11:54.15guyeeif it did called number display, it'd be perfect for simple office use :)
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11:55.09Zeeekjust write it dowxn before you dial! :)
11:55.13gordonjcpcan you get any of these phones to display the line that the call is coming in on?
11:55.40Zeeekgordonjcp you could by changing the callerid sting in asterisk
11:55.50Zeeekif you can determine what line that is
11:56.02guyeegordonjcp: gxp-2000 displays it
11:56.07Zeeek<PROTECTED>
11:56.14guyeeline, caller name, caller num
11:56.23Zeeekhow does it know what line?
11:56.34gordonjcpZeeek: ok
11:56.36guyeei mean.. account
11:56.44Zeeekah. It has 3 presences?
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11:58.32guyee4 accounts, can be 4 different sip servers, and you can choose which account you want to use for dialling out, and indicates which account the incoming call uses
11:59.10ZeeekIf you are talking and a call comoes in a nother acct what happens?
11:59.49guyeethe led next to the account's button is blinking
11:59.56Zeeekand you hit the button to put the urrent call on hold and take the new one?
12:00.00guyeeyep
12:00.05Zeeekthat's very good
12:00.07langalsHi there...wondering if someone could help me configure jitterbuffer in IAX2
12:01.32guyeeZeeek: but be warned, the phones still has a few problems, even with the latest firmware... e.g. my called number display problem :)
12:01.58Zeeekyeah I may wait. Anyway, I hope to get a Polycom soon
12:05.47Zeeek.
12:11.05apenonhi everyone
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12:11.14gordonjcpmy Avaya 4602 has just arrived
12:11.19apenonI want to use Asterisk@home for my sip clients make outbound calls over SIP using a peer provider
12:11.33apenon<PROTECTED>
12:12.10apenonI have tried sometimes but PSTN only call onces than hangs up
12:12.41Zeeekdo youy have g723?
12:12.48apenonyes
12:12.59apenonI use eyebeam as client
12:13.18apenonAsterisk has passthrough for g723 right?
12:13.49ZeeekI don't see it in my translation table
12:14.07Zeeekyou installed it?
12:14.08darwin35yeha
12:14.12darwin35its working
12:14.23darwin35my first corp install worsk 100 %
12:14.30Zeeeksip show peers
12:14.33apenonok
12:14.37Zeeekoops
12:14.45darwin35I thought it was sipp blow peers
12:15.12darwin35and iax2 get screwd
12:15.15Zeeekdepends on who you talk to :)
12:15.33darwin35hehhehe
12:15.53apenonIt is in my translation table
12:16.18Zeeekmaybe @hole installs it
12:16.32apenonactually it just rings PSTN once then hungs up
12:16.49Zeeekthat's of limited usability
12:17.04apenonhmm
12:17.13apenonhaow can I make it unlimited
12:17.29Zeeekwith @home, no idea.
12:17.42Zeeekall of that is configured in what we call files
12:17.55Zeeekif you can do that, you do,'t need @home
12:18.03apenonok nop with asterisk 1.0 I can do it
12:18.21darwin35@home is junk
12:18.44ZeeekI'm sure it's great. You just don't learn the necessary background using stuff like that
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12:18.59darwin35true
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12:19.38darwin35I have been dealing with the real thing for 1 year 8 months 17 hours 20 min
12:20.02apenonI can to IP-to IP with g729 and g273 but when trying PSTN no call
12:20.02ZeeekI'm a newbie at 1Y 2M
12:20.18apenonI am newest I think 2 M
12:20.32Zeeekwhat exactly does call PSTN mean ina technical sense? WHat interface?
12:20.36darwin35you have to setup your outbound and make sure the user has rights to dial out
12:20.39Zeeekzapata?
12:20.41apenonno
12:21.04apenonfrom sofphone client---asterisk---sip peer---PSTN
12:21.12Zeeekwhat sip peer?
12:21.20apenona SIP provider
12:21.32darwin35now to work on libpri cvs and chan_sccp
12:21.32Zeeekpulling teeth again
12:21.33apenonsupplying A-Z termination
12:21.57newlRight, he asked which one. ;)
12:22.02Zeeekapenon a few details are missing if yu really want help here
12:22.16ZeeekLet me turn back the clock to 1Y1month ago
12:23.03ZeeekI'm trying to connect my asterisk to FWD using SIP. I followed the web page configs and when I call I get the message "no one is avail"... etc etc
12:23.38Zeeekin one line we have nearly enough data to ask iontelligent questions
12:23.42apenonok I will debug it and turn to you thanks
12:24.03Zeeekjust state the problem cleazrly and what you have done to get it to work
12:24.15Zeeekand buy me a typing class while you're at it
12:25.16apenonI want to use asterisk as a softswitch actually I have define a friend eyebeam and register it
12:25.37apenonthen in extensions I have route all outbound calls to a SIP provider
12:25.44Zeeekso far so good
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12:26.21apenonno problem with registeration for peer connections also routing ok
12:26.34apenonProvider see my call
12:26.37Zeeekso now we come to the problem...
12:26.54Zeeekhave you tried ulaw?
12:26.59apenonno actually
12:27.04apenonI am from turkey
12:27.12apenonso bandwith is so limited
12:27.24Zeeekthat would be my first step - though you might say what the CLI reports during the call (use pastebin.ca)
12:27.40Zeeektry a different codec to see if it works
12:27.44apenonok
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12:28.51milkchanhowdy. can I ask some newbie qs about an asterisk/gnophone setup?
12:30.37milkchanthe easy q is how to register with gnophone installed without mozilla (because I couldn't make it with mozilla)
12:30.47milkchanis there a url for this?
12:30.59darwin35most asterisk users are beyond help. Once you dive into asterisk you are in over your head and the ship is going down fast
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12:31.11Mother__yoyo
12:31.22darwin35hey hother hows it hanging
12:31.29darwin35mother that is
12:31.32Mother__hi there darwin35
12:31.34Mother__;)
12:31.45Zeeekhey Mother__ I might come to Madrid after all
12:31.52Mother__really? excellent!
12:31.58milkchanso who wants to hear my tale of wow?
12:32.00ZeeekI'm seriously debating it now
12:32.04Mother__we'll have to order a really big paella :)
12:32.16Zeeekyou'll be there? (you live there, ya?)
12:32.25Mother__I live in Barcelona, but I'll be there
12:32.39milkchangoing tofar east in a week, wanna setup line<->iax relay for local calls at home (also incoming)
12:32.44Zeeekit isn't the money, it's the time
12:32.46Mother__I'm not sure if the entire event, but one day at least
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12:33.03Mother__yeah, same here, that's why I may go one day only, I have to pick the most interesting
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12:33.17Zeeekthat's the problem
12:33.29darwin3542
12:33.34ZeeekI wouldn't mind learning more but not sure what to follow
12:33.48darwin35learn more asterisk ?
12:33.55apenonI think I have a basic problem
12:33.56Mother__quick doubt: how can I add SIP phones to a ring sequence, i.e. incoming Zap call, ring phones #1 & #2, if not answered in 15sec. ring #1, #2 and #3, and so on
12:33.56Zeeeklearn more anything actually
12:33.59pussfellerwhats the skinny on transmission echo with those generic x100p? do i need to edit the tx and rx gain?
12:34.10apenonMay 23 15:32:44 VERBOSE[1357]: -- SIP/195.142.106.126-4d01 is ringing
12:34.10apenonMay 23 15:32:44 VERBOSE[1357]: -- SIP/195.142.106.126-4d01 is circuit-busy
12:34.14pussfelleri dont think they do echo training
12:34.17ZeeekMother__ just put the dial() in line one after the other?
12:34.27darwin35zeek start with c and move to c++ then you will be fine
12:34.35Mother__I'm trying with timeouts but when they happen, the sip phones that were ringing send back an "Not acceptable here" message
12:34.42ZeeekI been doing C since like 1990
12:35.01Mother__Got SIP response 488 "Not Acceptable Here" back from 192.168.0.242
12:35.02darwin35ahh wow
12:35.08ZeeekI invented C while inventing the Internet with Al Gore
12:35.12Mother__lol
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12:35.33darwin35and then stun
12:35.39darwin35to go with *
12:35.47ZeeekGot SIP response 666 "FOAD anus-breath" back from 192.168.1.0
12:35.55Mother__when the timeout happens, are the SIP channels destroyed?
12:35.57Zeeekwhat does this error message mean?
12:36.09Zeeekmy own network!
12:36.16Mother__what, anus-breath? you forgot your anus-menthol pills again
12:36.27Zeeekactually I was sitting on the phone!
12:36.44Mother__then I pity the guy that may have to service it... :)
12:36.45darwin35wow I just got a call
12:36.48ZeeekGood thing they ask the t-shirt size right waway
12:36.52darwin35they are happy with my setup
12:37.00darwin35but want more functions
12:37.01ZeeekMother__ "service this"
12:37.15Zeeekdarwin35 consultant's dream!
12:37.24Mother__so, the big question is are SIP channels destroyed when the timeout happens? I may try adding a delay before doing the next Dial()
12:37.34Zeeek"we love what you've done. How much to..."
12:37.42darwin35wait()
12:37.42Ahrimanesdarwin35: http://pastebin.ca/12423 - pgsql 8.0.2
12:37.55ZeeekMother__ I think you can do it like that
12:38.05darwin35wait(5)
12:38.14darwin35its a pause
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12:39.09Mother__yes, I was just adding the Waits
12:39.15Ahrimanesdarwin35: wait.. that wasnt a problem actually, sorry.. was fixing include and lib paths and that fixed it
12:39.29darwin35ahh ok
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12:39.50ZeeekMother__ I meant I think it works with no wait
12:40.04darwin3510 calls and the average is 2.5
12:40.49Ahrimanesdarwin35: i will have Makefile patch for freebsd cdr_pgsql soon..
12:40.57darwin35ok
12:40.59Mother__Zeek, right now I have s,1,Dial(${A},15,t) then s,2,Dial(${A}&${B},15,t) and so on
12:41.00darwin35cool
12:41.00Ahrimanesdarwin35: know where i should send them?
12:41.03Mother__and it doesn't work
12:41.10darwin35whats wrong with it
12:41.15darwin35in head its fine
12:41.32Zeeekmaybe you can't repeat the first phone?
12:41.32Ahrimanesdarwin35: it doesnt find libs and includes properly
12:41.38darwin35mother are you on head or 1.0.7
12:41.51Mother__darwin35: head, but one from March I believe
12:41.59darwin35update
12:42.06darwin35loads of fixes
12:42.13Mother__LOL I didn't want to touch it because it was running quite nicely
12:42.15Mother__OK will do
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12:42.20darwin35but loads of context changes
12:42.24Mother__really?
12:42.25Mother__nice
12:43.07darwin35Ahri dcc them to me let me see
12:43.16Ahrimanesdarwin35: oh.. more problems... will see if i can fix or pastebin
12:43.31darwin35asterisk reads the dir from asterisk.conf
12:43.39Mother__famous last words: "let's see what this does"
12:44.05Zeeekheh
12:44.39darwin35mother you can use pastebin so others can hel p with context
12:44.59darwin35<== is beyond help but does his best to help others
12:45.01Mother__HAH it verks!!!
12:45.11Mother__the Wait(1) did it
12:45.14darwin35ok let me know
12:45.21darwin35I use postgres
12:45.56darwin35cool
12:46.11darwin35I new it had to be simple
12:46.17Mother__it seems it then has time to destroy the channel, and the SIP phones settle themselves
12:46.53Zeeekaha, interesting
12:47.16Jazza005Does anyone know how to factory reset an CAC Adit 600?
12:47.27darwin35now if we could get Mother to settle  then we would have piece
12:47.34Ahrimanesdarwin35: http://pastebin.ca/12427
12:49.09darwin35cc -L/lib -L/usr/local/lib/  -o cdr_pgsql.so cdr_pgsql.o -lpq -lz
12:49.27darwin35you put the -L in the wrong place
12:49.45Ahrimanesdarwin35: ah ok.. thx
12:49.57darwin35are you on fbsd
12:50.01darwin35adn head
12:50.10Ahrimanesdarwin35: freebsd 5.4 and 1.0.7
12:50.13darwin35or do you have linux setup diff
12:50.40darwin35you have to set the patchs in the main make file
12:50.50darwin35did you install from ports
12:50.59darwin35or from a tar file
12:51.20darwin35asterisk is in ports so is zap and libpri
12:52.02darwin35if you install from ports it works fine
12:52.20Mother__<PROTECTED>
12:52.50Ahrimanesdarwin35: i installed from ports, but cdr_pgsql.so doesnt come with make install
12:52.55Mother__that's the setup as it is - explained, there are to receptionists, A&B, they are called first - if they are busy, each of the office phones are added every 15 seconds until answered
12:53.25Mother__same happens if they don't answer
12:53.45ZeeekI wouldn't wait 60 seconds!
12:53.52Mother__sorry, if they are busy, they are skipped to the next busy extension, if they don't answer they are added
12:53.56Zeeekhey play a recording instead of wait
12:53.58Ahrimanesdarwin35: cc -L/lib-L/usr/local/lib  -o cdr_pgsql.so cdr_pgsql.o -lpq -lz <- still gives same errors
12:54.03Zeeek"we are trying to reach..."
12:54.10Mother__heh that's the timeout in our PSTN network (roughly)
12:54.10Zeeekin four languages
12:54.23truescotcan someone please tell me if i am correct with this line,
12:54.24truescotexten => _.1091,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN}
12:54.30truescotfor getting a did number from a pri line and routing it to the appropriate extension
12:54.46darwin35put a space in lib-L
12:54.55vaewynneeds a closing ')' truescot
12:54.57darwin35lib -L
12:55.05truescotyea i just missed that in the paste
12:55.05Mother__Zeek: eventually they will want voicemail etc. this is a start - they are jumping from an old crappy taiwanese "PBX" if it can be called that to VoIP
12:55.13vaewyntruescot: but other than that looks fine
12:55.19Ahrimanesdarwin35: ah, was typo here.. there's a space when i run it
12:55.19truescotcool
12:55.27vaewynwait a minute...  _.1091?
12:55.33truescotexactly
12:55.35darwin35hold a min
12:55.45vaewynusually '.' is only used on the trailing
12:55.51truescoti want to take the last 4 digits from the number presented
12:55.52vaewynnot sure what it would do as a prefix
12:56.07vaewynheck... try it :}  best way to find out
12:56.26truescotyea, have to wait till the ned of the day to plug it into the e1 line tho :(
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12:56.34truescotbut will give it a go
12:56.50JunK-Y:q
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12:57.44Mother__gotta go eat, cya people
12:57.57Zeeekbon apetit
12:58.24darwin35ok where did oyu get res_pgsql
12:58.29darwin35your right
12:58.36darwin35I have to see src
12:58.40Ahrimanesdarwin35: not res_pgsql, cdr_pgsql
12:58.48darwin35<truescot>sorry
12:58.56darwin35sorry
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13:02.29darwin35-L/usr/local/lib/postgresql/lib
13:02.35darwin35should fix it
13:02.49Ahrimanesah will try
13:03.04darwin35nope
13:03.08darwin35hols on
13:03.16Ahrimanesnope, folder doesnt exist here
13:03.21darwin35give me a paste bin again
13:03.24Ahrimaneslibpq is in /usr/locla/lib
13:03.25Ahrimaneshttp://pastebin.ca/12427
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13:05.56darwin35mine is building and workign fine on head
13:06.01darwin35paste the make file
13:07.40Ahrimaneshttp://pastebin.ca/12430
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13:08.48Skidoops
13:09.53Skidfolks, with voicemail, I've recorded a like "no answer" message, and then I send the caller to voicemail, with Voicemail(s1000), but if they press the # key, it uses the asterisk default "thankyou" voice, even though the n+1 priority is to play back a customer "thankyou" .wav file... is there anyway to disable the default asterisk thankyo?
13:10.57darwin35# = exit
13:11.12Skidindeed, but the voip wiki for asterisk says to play them goobye
13:11.14darwin35in vm
13:11.15Skidbut i wanted my own
13:11.20Skidif you see what I mean?
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13:11.27Dossyhey, any way to make asterisk do software volume gain?
13:11.32Dossyeverything is so *quiet*
13:11.43JunK-Yrxgain/txgain Dossy
13:12.37Dossyjunk-y:  Where do I set that?
13:13.00Dossyzap.conf ?
13:13.02Dossywhat about for IAX calls?
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13:14.18darwin35bbiab afk
13:14.41Drukenmorning everyone
13:14.59ZeeekDossy only on the phones
13:15.40Drukeni have a question for the masses, with reguard to 911 service.... :) uhmm... how do they expect 911 services to work with a telephone that can move?
13:16.00Drukeni have yet to see an ata or a phone with a gps system to report it's location...
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13:16.18lehelhello
13:16.55ZeeekDruken new cells will have gps built in. OLd ones won't work
13:17.09pussfelleri imagine they said the same thing about cell phones and 911
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13:18.03Drukenzeek: i'm talking about the voip stuff, not cell phones
13:18.27AhrimanesDruken: but same problem
13:18.40ariel_Good morning everyone
13:18.40Zeeekno, cellphones will have all that builtin
13:19.16ZeeekI think it's obvious for the "home user" inthe examples they give, there will be an address of record for the account.
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13:19.22vaewyncellphones are outside 90% of the time... and hence can have GPS that works...  their towers are outside 100% of the time... and hence... have GPS that works...   wifi... ain't ever gonna happen
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13:19.37ZeeekIf you mean calling from your laptop or pother phones you move, I don't see any good way
13:20.17Zeeekvaewyn I hope that works better than the SMS I sent my wife about trazffic that she received 5 days later :)
13:20.30vaewynLet people update a web page... make sure they know where it is and make the changes as instant as possible... voila... you have complied and you also have 0 liability if it is wrong
13:21.01vaewynZeeek: E911 on cellphones is instant... and it does work... just a pain in the butt for cell providers
13:21.07Drukenvaewyn: even that is a pain in the ass... 911 service is just stupid
13:21.08ZeeekI can never remember to update my follow me extension, now I'm looking for a web page?
13:21.31Ahrimaneshm i dont think restrictions here in denmark allow for such a webpage.. we register people by postal code.. what then happens if they move.. well telco's and emergency operators here have no idea
13:22.09Drukene911 service on voip is a nightmare
13:22.31vaewynFCC is basically requiring a webpage for the user... rest is up to the provider on how they get that info out
13:22.50vaewynIs nice that now they have a mandate to know the direct call numbers for 911 centers
13:22.51Drukenis there a compiled list of numbers for the 911 services? i know i live in ontario, and i'm sure we have a diffrent 911 service then every other area in canada
13:23.18vaewynNope... but someone will make a killing compiling that list quick here :P
13:24.11Drukeni'm not even sure where canada sits on the topic, but i'm sure they will say it's gotta work.. hehe
13:24.27Ahrimaneshehe i have the full list for denmark.. luckily its readily available here
13:25.06Dossydirect dial 911?  heh
13:25.18vaewynIn the US they have become dark secrets
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13:28.57vaewynsomeone's gonna make a killing from a single table database :P
13:29.16vaewynmaybe 2 tables if you seperate the area maps in their own by a key
13:29.17vaewyn:}
13:32.19vaewynhehehe... I wish I had the time..  I have southwest lower michigan... and northern indiana... but that took a couple months by itself... would hate to see the entire SU
13:32.22vaewynUS even
13:32.50Druken:)
13:33.27gordonjcpin the UK, most call centres are in Scotland
13:33.42gordonjcp'cos our accents are easier to understand
13:33.47Drukeni'm sure if i called 911 and said, uhmm... yeah i'm a new voip provider, and i need the direct dial numbers for the psap's in the area, i'd get somewhere
13:33.57xhelioxlol
13:34.05darwin35ok libpri head compiles and installs
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13:34.31darwin35ok bsd
13:34.33xhelioxI want to state for the receord, I'm taking my ATA out of state and calling IP in 120 days and expecting it to work! And when it doesn't, I'm suing the FCC. :P
13:35.38Bile_Onehaa haa haa
13:35.53darwin35E911 is a joke
13:36.00darwin350it cant be done
13:36.22gordonjcpdarwin35: git up, git git down, E911 is a joke in yo' town?
13:36.23Bile_OneNot unless we redo IP the IP protocols.
13:36.32xhelioxYes it can, the FCC said so. A bunch of technology impaired commissioners has made it so.
13:36.34gordonjcpI don't see the problem
13:36.44Bile_OneNot protocols, but standards. Sorry
13:36.48gordonjcp999/112 works OK from mobiles in the UK and Europe
13:37.15coppice112 works anywhere on a GSM phone
13:37.24Bile_OneYes but in Europe you have a better saturation of towers for trianglization.
13:37.29darwin35the issue with e911 i I can use my account from anywhere
13:37.33coppiceusually even when you aren't registered on the network
13:37.43vaewynit is 100% doable... it just how much money you are going to pay SBC/Verizon/etc... to get on their E911 systems
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13:37.50darwin35and you would have to have gps in the hard phoes
13:38.01vaewynVonage has gone that route and they are paying a boatload
13:38.06darwin35and computers would have to have gps
13:38.10gordonjcpdarwin35: what good would GPS be?
13:38.14gordonjcpit doesn't work inside
13:38.21vaewyngps is worthless...  won't work in building
13:38.23vaewynbuildings
13:38.25darwin35thats how they track cell phones
13:38.34coppiceno they don't
13:38.36gordonjcpdarwin35: uhm.... nope
13:38.45coppiceever seen a cell phone with GPS?
13:38.50Ahrimanesyes, 3g ones
13:38.53Ahrimanesbricks they are
13:38.58darwin35they use the cell call to trace between towers with gps on the towers
13:39.09vaewyncellphones are tower assisted GPS...  lets see you get every AP do that
13:39.19darwin35and on some of the new phones they are putting gps
13:39.34coppiceThey know where the towers are :-) The GPS there is for ntwork timing
13:39.36Ahrimanesbut still a cell phone in a building cant utilize gps
13:39.45gordonjcpactually the cell towers use GPS to synchronise their internal clocks
13:40.02gordonjcpthe phones themselves do *not* have GPS in them
13:40.16gordonjcpapart from a very few *incredibly* specialised phones
13:40.46gordonjcpwhich - the ones I've seen, at least - are embedded devices, not handsets
13:40.47vaewynAhrimanes: yes it can.. tower assisted GPS it is called... uses the towers to triangulate
13:40.56Drukenreguardless 911 is a bad thing for voip, it won't work on a moveable device
13:41.06darwin35its an issue if I leave home and go to my cousins ad take the phone with me it wont know how to route the 911 cal and also I will not be at home where they would think with the db call I am
13:41.10vaewyngordonjcp: most new ones have a 2 channel GPS in them even if they don't specifically state it
13:41.15Ahrimanesvaewyn: yes, but it's not a part of the GPS system.. it's triangultion from towers
13:41.21Drukenif i live in ontario, which i do... and i goto florida and plug it in, it still works
13:41.39coppicevaewyn: you're making this up as you go along, aren't you? :-)
13:41.49gordonjcpvaewyn: no, they don't
13:41.56vaewyngordonjcp: yes they do...
13:41.56darwin35nope alot of new phones are going gsm/gps
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13:42.03vaewynand mine has a real GPS in it
13:42.06gordonjcpvaewyn: manufactuer and model number?
13:42.08vaewyni58sr from motorola
13:42.12darwin35yes
13:42.26coppicedarwin35: that's GSM/GPRS, not GPS
13:42.33Ahrimaneshehe
13:42.37darwin35gprs
13:42.40darwin35sorry
13:43.08vaewynbut yes... ALL new phones handle tower assisted GPS... and most of them have a 2 channel GPS receiver to narrow it within 200ft
13:43.15darwin35ap would have to do it and pass the info
13:43.20vaewynmine has a real GPS with 12 channels
13:43.38coppicevaewyn: you really are making this up as you go along
13:43.41darwin35and the hard phones would have to have it
13:43.44Ahrimanesi'd still say it's not gps but gsm triangulation
13:43.49bkw_you get em coppice
13:43.51vaewynbut APs can't get GPS either... and as soon as one person forgets to update the APs location *pooof*
13:43.51bkw_give em hell
13:43.57vaewyncoppice: No I'm not
13:44.11gordonjcpvaewyn: yes, because that's a handset combined with a GPS receiver
13:44.14coppicevaewyn: the i58sr isn't even a GSM phone
13:44.22darwin35GPRS not GPS
13:44.36vaewyncoppice: who said it was?
13:44.56vaewynthe i58sr has a REAL GPS in it... get it through your heads :P
13:45.28coppicevaewyn: wow. so what. what relevance has a broad area iDEN phone to a GSM network
13:45.32darwin35yeah both of them
13:45.43vaewyncoppice: I never said it did
13:45.51vaewynthat was someone else raving about it
13:45.54darwin35you missed the beginning of the conversation
13:46.14darwin35its about e911
13:46.18darwin35not gsm
13:46.20vaewynexactly
13:46.33pycsuszSomebody can help me, how can I set the outgoing  and the incomecall calls with Varion v400p card?
13:46.45Ahrimaneskapejod: bad..
13:47.01coppiceI saw the beginning of the conversation. iDEN doesn't count
13:47.18gordonjcpvaewyn: yes, I know - that's a handset combined with a GPS receiver
13:47.32gordonjcpvaewyn: it still doesn't mean that mobile phones are tracked by GPS!
13:48.17vaewyngordonjcp: most new phones have a 2 channel receiver in them... it can't work without the tower... but it does use GPS to get better accuracy when available
13:48.46gordonjcpvaewyn: it's not something I've ever seen, and I can't think of a reason why they'd have it
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13:48.55gordonjcpvaewyn: is this possibly a US-only thing?
13:49.02blitzrageman... E911 on VoIP seems like SUCH a bad idea
13:49.13coppiceIn the countryside a GSM network can usually locate you with a couple of hundred metres. In dense areas it can be 20-30m. it can't generally find your height, though, so in towers it still pretty vague about location
13:49.15vaewyngordonjcp: nope... they are rolling it our for advertising crud...
13:49.58gordonjcpcoppice: that would still require a lot of cell towers
13:50.21gordonjcpall the ones near me are about 10 miles apart
13:50.24coppicedense city areas have antennas every couple of hundred metres
13:50.26vaewynheck... I am lucky if I have 1 tower in site around here... :}  go ahead and try and triangulate :P
13:50.37gordonjcpvaewyn: same here
13:50.42gordonjcpwell, when I'm up north, anyway
13:50.43Ahrimanes2 towers will suffice..
13:51.08vaewyn2 towers?  bwahahahaha
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13:51.59`Sauron2 towers gives you 2 possible positions
13:52.04gordonjcpyup
13:52.07`Sauronyou need 3 towers for a precise fix
13:52.16pussfellerif the fcc were really worried about safety, they would have told people that voip is still a new technology and that they shouldn't rely on it for emergencies
13:52.17`Sauron4 towers for a precise 3-d fix (height)
13:52.23`Sauronsame goes with GPS
13:52.27coppicenope. 1 possible position. most antennas are directional these days
13:52.31gordonjcpunless at least one of the towers has a directional antenna
13:52.48`Saurons/height/altitude
13:53.09gordonjcp'course, if you're above a few thousand feet you hit several towers at once
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13:53.26ctooleydoolph, depends on the number of phones, lines, and level of flexibility
13:53.31coppiceeven with several towers estimating height is nearly impossible
13:53.41gordonjcpand then you get a snotty letter from orange, about not breaking their network by phoning from a plane
13:54.17`Saurongordonjcp: Sounds suspect. Your phone will only attach to one tower at any given time anyway
13:54.26`Sauronregardless of how many towers it can "see"
13:54.46coppiceall the towers see your phone, though
13:54.48RoyK[ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo "You live"
13:55.02Ahrimanesproblems occurs when it keeps thinking another tower is better and then shifts every few seconds.. great coverage, but not usable
13:55.16AhrimanesRoyK: haha
13:55.28coppiceunless you have soft handoff, then that works great
13:55.34gordonjcp`Sauron: <shrug>  something to do with locking towers that can't see each other to the lowest possible channel
13:55.50gordonjcpto try and squeeze as much range out of GSM1800 in rough hilly terrain
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14:06.46guyeeNE1 here with GXP-2000s?
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14:08.03coppiceNE1 protocol won't work with GXP-2000s :-)
14:08.57guyeeyeah... and that's only one of the non-working things :)
14:08.58steveknow that's the kind of smart-alec answer I appreciate, coppice :)
14:10.11coppicewell that went a bit better than saying that bumping someone off was rather harsh treatment for a mailing list misdemeanour :-)
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14:15.28apenonexit
14:15.30SuPrSluGanyone doing dundi?
14:15.36SuPrSluGi added a box to my dundi enterprise config. it can do lookups on those boxes extensions. but they can't lookup box c's extensions. any ideas?
14:15.43SuPrSluGthey register as peers ok. but no info seems to get passed on
14:16.02apenonhi again everyone
14:16.10apenoncan you look at my debug again
14:16.15apenonhttp://pastebin.ca/12429
14:16.29apenonwhat seems wrong?
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14:19.15onkeltimmomfg how do i get a call back when attended transfer failed (ie extension reports busy here)? wasn't there something like a backoput key, or a timeout? cannot find this on the wiki but i think i read it before...
14:22.27anthmget bug 3729 committed
14:23.31`SauronWouldn't you rather have the fix committed...
14:24.04anthmso funny i forgot to laugh..=p
14:24.16blitzragehaha
14:24.18onkeltimmtried hook flash (which works to place call on hold), but it just hangs up, loosing me the call...
14:25.06anthmdont think logical phone system way to do it that is where you will alway go astray
14:25.35anthmapply 3729 patch and try it then comment on it if it works
14:26.25anthmyou should be able to dial the hangup key to cancel the att xfer , since i made both the patch and the atxfer feature I can assure you it's your best bet
14:26.43coppicebug 3729 enters a black hole :-)
14:27.25onkeltimmperhaps if anthm used a mantis, not a bugzilla link, it might work ;)
14:28.04anthmwatcha talkin bout willis?
14:28.56anthmhttp://bugs.digium.com/view.php?id=3729
14:29.06onkeltimmexactly :)
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14:29.58anthmoh, so you need me to fix it for you, AMD, give you a convient link to click on too , should I apply the patch too?
14:30.51eidolonsay, have folks seen the info on HOP1502?  appears to be a $39 VOIP Wifi handset.
14:30.51fileanthm: that would have been nicer had you spelled 'AND' right ;)
14:31.15tzangerhahaha
14:31.20onkeltimmanthm: yes, puh-lease. for the records: i fixed it already.
14:31.20tzangernow *that* is funny
14:32.08tzangerand wow my chili turned out pretty good
14:32.15Ahrimanesmm chili
14:32.26tzangerthere is just so much you can do with file
14:32.43filebah
14:32.46vaewynoops...  typo... that made it worse
14:32.47tzangeryou can encrypt, print, delete, copy, corrupt, cat, grep, hell you can even sed file
14:32.55fileand fsck
14:33.00tzangeranthm: that's a GOOD list, not a bad one, right?
14:33.00eidolonanyway - i wwas wondering if this would be a low-cost entry point into having VOIP phones at home.  an asterisk server + the HOP phone + a wifi hotspot seems pretty good.
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14:33.16vaewyntr A-Z Z-A file
14:33.19vaewyn:}
14:33.33coppicegoogling HOP1502 hits nothing
14:33.38mutilatormornin all
14:33.39tzangervaewyn: doesn't work
14:33.48tzangerheh you can chown file
14:34.03fileall this talk of me is making me hungry
14:34.06vaewynchmod 4000 file
14:34.09vaewyn:P
14:34.20tzangeryou can rot13 file though
14:34.22tzangerhe's not zvyr
14:34.24JunK-Yfile: muffin?
14:34.27tzangerer he's now zvyr
14:34.31filea muffin would be good
14:34.41vaewynJunK-Y: quit the pillow talk!
14:34.43vaewyn:P
14:35.10fileanthm: don't pull a Sokol there, that didn't go over well
14:35.19vaewynI think someone just   cat /dev/null > file
14:35.22vaewyn:}
14:35.33tzangeroh yeah we can recover file then
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14:36.25tzangerI just wish this song wasn't tuned down half a step, I'd put an effort into learning it
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14:36.38stevekyou can use file to make things smaller.
14:36.52tzangerheh bzip file
14:36.52onkeltimmyou were talking hendrix, right?
14:37.03tzangerhendrix does it yes but I'm listening ot the SRV version
14:37.12tzangerI'm not really a hendrix fan he's *too* chaotic for me
14:37.16stevekno, like file can remove burrs from metal objects.
14:37.21tzangervery, very talented but just a little too chaotic for me
14:37.26tzangerhmm
14:37.31tzangerfile could have a burr ni his ass then
14:37.34tzangermorning stevek
14:37.48stevekmorning.
14:37.49onkeltimmSRV?
14:38.04eidolonstevie ray vaughn?
14:38.06tzangeranthm: I think onkeltimm needs to go on your bad list
14:38.07vaewynrar file
14:38.07stevekfile is best at removing things if he's a bastard.
14:38.08eidolongosh, kids these days.
14:38.14tzangerstevek: hehehe
14:38.18fileI FEEL VIOLATED!!!
14:38.26stevekhttp://www.thefreedictionary.com/Bastard%20file
14:38.29vaewynvalidate file
14:38.31vaewynhehehe
14:38.57vaewynwhy does md5sum file return the same hash as md5sum /dev/null?  ;P
14:39.00tzangerI'm 29 and Canadian
14:39.17tzangeronkeltimm: emule steve ray vaughan little wing
14:39.20tzangerand be amazed
14:39.28ariel_I just love this my wife was on the phone to her Sister in Australia.  For 25 minutes and it's only costing me 44.5 cents.  I just love voip ld service.
14:39.31vaewynbwahahaha!  You can md5sum /dev/null... that is hilarious!
14:39.43tzangervaewyn: you can??
14:39.49tzangerdoesn't it come up zero?
14:39.50vaewynyep
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14:39.56vaewynd41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
14:39.57tzangeror is the md5sum seeded?
14:39.58vaewyn:}
14:40.00tzangerwow it's seeded
14:40.02tzangerI didn't know that
14:40.16vaewynmd5sum /dev/random however does not work :P
14:40.26tzangervaewyn: yes it does
14:40.28vaewynsits forever getting data :P
14:40.29AhrimanesMD5 (/dev/random) = d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
14:40.31tzangervaewyn: you just need sufficient entropy
14:40.35tzangermd5sum urandom
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14:41.30tzangermaybe I should just tune my guitar down 1/2 a step and leave it there, using a capo for standard tuning
14:41.45fileya know...
14:41.48anthmoh you like it in jimi mode
14:41.49fileI never play a G Sharp... naturally!
14:41.56tzangerha
14:42.00tzangerI have a g string
14:42.17vaewyn~lart tzanger
14:42.34tzangeractually
14:42.39tzangerI'm Canadian so I have an Eh string too
14:42.42blitzragelol
14:42.53blitzragetzanger: we called Appendix A, Appendix Eh?
14:43.19vaewynYou know that is why they spell the country like that...    C-eh?-N-eh?-D-eh?
14:43.29tzangeranthm: I didn't say I *could* play little wing
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14:43.42tzangerI'm pretty good with chords but lead is really quite some work
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14:43.51darwin35I thout it was Kan A Deh
14:43.59dml337ira<teary eyed> oh canada!
14:44.26darwin35or Klan eh  deh
14:44.30tzangerwheeze tendon guard for thee!
14:44.43anthmmaybe we should all bring guitars to cluecon and have voip opera
14:44.44valentinesCanada rules!!
14:44.49vaewynalthough... burning the whitehouse...  that was a really cool idea!  and could you all do it again?
14:44.50vaewyn:P
14:44.51valentinesWe love Canada
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14:45.01tzangereveryone loves canada
14:45.13tzangerland of beer and smokes
14:45.15vaewynexcept that frenchy part
14:45.17InfraRedi hate canada
14:45.29InfraRedthey suck
14:45.38dml337irai'm  just waiting 4 Bush to Offiacial adopt canada
14:45.46tzangerquebec is a beautiful and diverse part of canada... if it just weren't for those damned seperatists
14:45.49bkw_didn't bush sell canada?
14:45.54bkw_to mexico?
14:45.56onkeltimmi heard canada has some nice islands in the gulf stream for sale.
14:46.00dml337iraLOL
14:46.01fileI'm gonna hurt you!
14:46.23bkw_file you find that stuff I asked for?
14:46.25tzangerI really wouldn't mind this whole dual-language stuff if it were applied across the nation instead of "two languages everywhere... EXCEPT QUEBEC!  We are too special!"
14:46.28tzangerthat is what bothers me
14:46.34tzangerI actually wich I knew more languages
14:46.41blitzragetzanger: ME TOO
14:46.44tzangervaewyn: easy, it'll end up in my chili and then what
14:46.46blitzragewoops.... caps lock
14:46.48dml337ira<Ouch!> "cut that out!
14:46.50NuggetI wich[sic] you knew english. :)
14:46.52tzangerI'll choke and you'll feel guilty
14:46.56tzangerhahaha
14:47.05vaewyntzanger: you obviously don't know me that well   :}
14:47.29tzangerI'll make you feel guilty, I'll put on quite a show
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14:47.55blitzragetzanger: you coming to the next TAUG meeting next Friday?
14:47.56mutilatorso this 911 thing..
14:48.01onkeltimmis this globalized world, all you need to know are english and spanish, knowing spanish, frrench is already redundant. throw in standard japanese phrases for good measure
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14:48.04mutilatorthey are only enfoprcing basic 911 right?
14:48.04tzangerblitzrage: I will endeavor to make it
14:48.10tzangerI've missed the last 2 or 3
14:48.14blitzragetzanger: me too
14:48.16vaewyn'backa!'
14:48.18pawallsHey guys, can you recommend what hardware would be sufficient for my setup: Single analog T1 line for external. ~100 VoIP phones for internal.
14:48.22blitzragetzanger: have been out of the country for the last 2
14:48.23tzangerBUCK FUTTER!
14:48.25pawallsWhat speed server would I need to support that?
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14:48.43vaewyn'Su Madre!'
14:48.52blitzragepawalls: how many simultaneous calls, and is there going to be transcoding?
14:48.56pawallsIt looks like the TE110P card is what I need for external.
14:49.22pawallsblitzrage, Simultaneous total will probably be in he 30-40 range. Most calls are external.
14:49.30pawallsblitzrage, And we only have 24 external lines.
14:49.46valentinesHey, anyone know anything about this LIveCD Voip Router based on SER?  How do they do the real-time billing?
14:49.47pawallsWe use Jabber for most inhouse communication rather than phones.
14:49.49tzangerpawalls: how much transcoding, is this all gonna be ulaw or are you gonna be taxing the processor with converting between gsm/g729/whatever to ulaw?
14:49.59blitzragepawalls: if no transcoding, I'd say you'd be pretty safe with a P4 3gig, with 1 gig of RAM.
14:50.04tzangervalentines: you'd have to take it apart to see
14:50.26mutilatoranyone?
14:50.39anthmtzanger, i think it's Em, G, Am7, Em, Bm7, Am7, G, F, C, D
14:50.43pawallsblitzrage, I'm not entirely clear on how codecs work. Internally we'll just use whatever is good quality (1gbit lan).
14:50.46tzangeranthm: eh?
14:50.50pawallsblitzrage, We'll use the same codec globally.
14:50.53tzangeroh the chords
14:50.57anthmtuned down a step tho
14:51.12tzangeranthm: I thought you meant the tuning and I was like "uh no"  :-)
14:51.17tzangeranthm: I google for the chords
14:51.24pawallstzanger, We'll probably stick with ulaw or some other codec only.
14:51.25tzangerbut all I get is the lead
14:51.34blitzragepawalls: transcoding is when you need to convert between one codec and another. Since G.711 mu-law is uncompressed, and if you're using all G.711 mu-law, my previous statement still stands.
14:51.38tzangerpawalls: well if you're talking to a T1/PRI it's gonna be ulaw
14:51.54tzangeranthm: I really don't like tuning down
14:51.56pawallstzanger, Then we'll probably just use ulaw for everything.
14:51.57tzangerbut fuck it
14:52.02tzangermaybe on my electric
14:52.06anthmit still sounds ok normal tuning
14:52.08tzangerI don't think you can play this on acoustic :-)
14:52.16pawallstzanger, blitzrage, Am I right about the card I need? For a single T1/PRI a TE110P is what I need, right?
14:52.27blitzragepawalls: I think so - I don't use PRI, but that sounds right...
14:52.43RoyKI dunno
14:52.46tzangeranthm: holy fuck man a couple nights ago I was just playing along with whatever was on the CD in the van (was camping) -- I was doing AMAZINGLY well at picking out the chords
14:52.49tzangerpawalls: yes
14:52.57tzangerTE110P is the card for a signle-span T1 or E1
14:53.00RoyKbut when it takes a minute to parse sip.conf, perhaps it's time to move to realtime?
14:53.02pawallsblitzrage, So if I'm using ulaw for VoIP on all SIP channels, a 3ghz with 1GB ram is fine.
14:53.05anthmthe G F
14:53.17pycsuszSomebody can help me, how can I set the outgoing  and the incomecall calls with Varion v400p card?
14:53.19blitzragepawalls: ya, that should be lots for 30-40 sim calls.
14:53.19anthmG F C D part has a harder version if you want to know it
14:53.20pawallsblitzrage, What if I decided to go with everyone using some other codec.. like gsm?
14:53.32JunK-YRoyK: how many entries in ur sip.conf ?
14:53.37pawallsblitzrage, Just so I can reference.
14:53.41anthmi fortot the name of it tho its a funky jimi chord the same one from castles
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14:54.00tzangerGFCD holy shit
14:54.11tzangerI play open chord as much as possible that's a tricky one
14:54.13tzangerG to F :-)
14:54.14Derkommissarcan anyone tell me how i can take a=silenceSupp:off - - - - , Off
14:54.15blitzragepawalls: then you have to worry more about transcoding and CPU use for compression. There is no chart or anything tell you what you need, but you can do a 'show translation' from the CLI to get an idea of how much more work it is to go from ulaw to gsm
14:54.30RoyK# grep username sip.conf |wc
14:54.30pawallsblitzrage, Neat.
14:54.30RoyK<PROTECTED>
14:54.38tzangerhowever barre is easy
14:54.41anthmif you wanna cheat just do bar chord G too
14:54.57tzangerI already do cheater F and G :-)
14:55.02tzanger(open)
14:55.24JunK-Yi never tried to have so much entries in my sip.conf.
14:55.51tzangerI was playing Nixons earlier too they're down a half step too
14:56.06pawallstzanger, And you said coming from a pri will be ulaw?
14:56.29pawallsWhat is the highest quality codec to use?
14:56.37blitzragepawalls: ulaw
14:56.38pawallsOr at least.. what is the best balanced codec to use.
14:56.48pawallsulaw makes sense then, I think we will use that.
14:57.00anthmtake an open C and take the 5th string off and put your pinky on 3rd fret of the high E
14:57.08coppicebalancing acts with codecs? a sort of codec circus? :-)
14:57.50RoyKhm... with 10k users from sip.conf, asterisk users around 220MB at startup......
14:57.50RoyKidle
14:57.52RoyKeh
14:57.53blitzragepawalls: ulaw is basically uncompressed - phone line quality. uses 64kbit/s, but if its all local LAN, then you don't have to worry about bandwidth, and I'd just use that
14:57.53RoyKno
14:57.54RoyKsorry
14:57.56RoyK64 megs
14:58.14tzangerpawalls: yes
14:58.22JunK-Ywhy not split it to multi-machine?
14:58.25RoyKbut it uses a fscking minute to start up - with 10k users in sip.conf
14:58.37tzangerpawalls: "highest quality" is subjective but it's generally accepted that ulaw/alaw is as good as you're gonna get, and is identical to standard POTS
14:58.42anthmthen you move the whole thing up so the formost fingers are on the 5th fret then slide it all to 3rd then all to 1st that is the better replacement for G F C then you do A D
14:58.45RoyKJunK-Y: talkena me?
14:58.57JunK-Yyes
14:59.04tzangeranthm: whoa
14:59.16RoyKJunK-Y: if you can tell me one single good way of doing that, be my guest
14:59.33RoyKJunK-Y: also, a single machine is able to handle that traffic, or most if it
14:59.43tzangeranthm: ahh okay so it's like x32003
14:59.48RoyKJunK-Y: it's just asterisk that sucks in handling  that many users from config files
14:59.49anthmwhich reminds me i lied before it is G F C A D
15:00.01RoyKJunK-Y: but then again, realtime will prolly work better
15:00.04fileanthm: you? lie? NO WAY!
15:00.08tzangerI like that progression
15:00.10blitzrageway
15:00.11tzangerG F C A D
15:00.14pawallsblitzrage, Excellent.
15:00.19RoyKB A B E
15:00.26anthm030013
15:00.40pawallsWhat do you think would be the maximum simultaneous connections if I had a 3ghz, 1gb ram, using ulaw for everything?
15:00.44RoyKC 0 F F E E
15:00.45blitzragefile: get back to work, whats anthm paying you for? :)
15:00.55tzangeractulaly B A B E isn't too bad sounding
15:01.00JunK-Yanyways, i doubt, you have to parse the config so often.
15:01.02fileblitzrage: anthm doesn't pay me
15:01.02blitzrageF C G D A E B
15:01.04tzanger030013 isn't what you described is it??
15:01.10blitzragefile: you're getting ripped off :)
15:01.16fileI'm just whored out! OMG
15:01.18tzangeropen C, 5th string open instead of 1 and 6th string 3 instead of open
15:01.22anthmwell starting on the low string
15:01.23blitzrageFather Charles Goes Down And Ends Battle
15:01.26anthmthat should be it
15:01.33blitzrageBattle Ends and Down Goes Charles Father
15:01.35tzangerblitzrage: wuh?
15:01.42fileoh no, sharps and flats!
15:01.49blitzragetzanger: thats the order of keys
15:01.54blitzragetzanger: for theory
15:01.57anthmC is 032010
15:01.58tzangerblitzrage: really?!
15:02.04tzangerI don't know any theory
15:02.07tzangeryou must teach
15:02.08anthmso you are adding a G
15:02.25blitzragetzanger: I have grade 2 theory, I can teach you some things
15:02.34anthmand you get jimi neato chord that works on almost any of the odd frets as is
15:02.35tzangeryes C is x32010, I thought you said to remove open 5th and 6th on 3 so x32003
15:03.00anthmwell im talking low to high
15:03.04anthm5th as in low A
15:03.08dca[laptop]anthm!
15:03.10dca[laptop]hi
15:03.11pawallsblitzrage, tzanger: would I be able to scale pretty high with that hardware? Like maybe eventually up to ~100 simultaneous?
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15:03.18anthmhi
15:03.24tzangerohhhh
15:03.26pawallsObviously most of them would be VoIP only calls.
15:03.28blitzrageF C G D A E B
15:03.30blitzrage1 2 3 4 5 6 7 - number of sharps, and their position on the staff
15:03.37dca[laptop]anthm: question about rtcachefriends
15:03.41pawallsVoIP -> VoIP
15:03.43tzangerthat sounds a lot different yes :-)
15:03.57anthmaww, fine i like talking about music better tho
15:03.59blitzragepawalls: yah, it should be fine - I wouldn't go much more than 80-100 sim calls per box
15:04.00tzangerpawalls: you'd have to play to see
15:04.04tzangerit's easy to add more hardware later
15:04.10blitzrageagreed
15:04.13tzangerdon't try to spec it all out now, see how it goes and where it breaks
15:04.24bkw_*COUGHT* cyber *COUGH* source *COUGH*
15:04.25tzangeryou'll have PLENTY of warning when you start hitting system limits
15:04.32fileone of these words just don't belong here: asterisk scales
15:04.33bkw_;)
15:04.37fileer doesn't
15:04.48bkw_both?
15:04.53tzangerblitzrage: eh?
15:04.54anthmanyway you take that same chord and move it from 1st up to the 5th
15:04.57dca[laptop]anthm:  hehe, okay, twwo * boxes both runing rt, when i do iax2 show peer, the legacy one spews all my registered users, the newer one only shows a fraction
15:04.57filebkw_: gold star for you!!!
15:04.59anthmand slide it to 3 then 1
15:05.01tzangeranthm: yes that sounds way different :-)
15:05.07anthmthat is the cool part at the end of the intro
15:05.17filemy female parental unit is on a cleaning spree
15:05.23jalsothi
15:05.25dca[laptop]anthm: and the bigger problem is that the newer one doesn't seem to know where to send the call if it has not been directly registered agains
15:05.32blitzragetzanger: general theory - not guitar specific
15:05.33tzangeranthm: :-)
15:05.38dca[laptop]anthm: even though the ip does appear in the db
15:05.42dca[laptop]anthm: thoughts?
15:05.53oej~seen kpfleming
15:06.04jbotkpfleming <~kpfleming@207.111.174.1> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 53d 9h 9m 51s ago, saying: 'no, there is no specific plan at this time'.
15:06.04tzangeranthm: ok wait say that again
15:06.04jalsotdoes anybody know what does this mean? ZT_SPANCONFIG failed on span 1: No such device or address (6)
15:06.04tzangerdo the funky jimi chord
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15:06.14anthmok you take the modified c chord
15:06.28tzangerwhich is C with 5th string (A) removed and 1st string (high E) on 3rd fret
15:06.29anthmand move it in place so all the fingers that were on 1 are on 5
15:06.51blitzrageoej: heh :)
15:06.54anthmthen play it then slide it to 3 while its playing
15:06.57pycsuszSomebody can help me, how can I set the outgoing  and the incomecall calls with Varion v400p card?
15:06.59coppiceI remember the news the day jimi died as if it was only 30 odd years ago :-)
15:07.03anthmthen same and slide back to 1
15:07.12anthmso you are starting at 5 on the way to 1
15:07.16blitzragesomeone get me to cluecon - I'll bring my drums
15:07.17jalsotI just upgraded kernel from 2.4 to 2.6 and cannot load E1 card driver :(
15:07.21tzangeranthm: only your index finger's on 1 for that
15:07.21anthmthen you do A D
15:07.46vaewynblitzrage: I'll bring my computer !
15:07.50anthmyah
15:07.53tzangerI'm *definitely* doing something wrong
15:07.58anthmoh crap i also forgot i had to go pick mine up to see
15:08.03anthmthumb on 1 too
15:08.17anthmon 1 of the low E
15:08.31vaewynSo... you think Best Western gets mad if we do a 100+db concert in a couple of their rooms?   ;P
15:08.39filenah
15:08.44tzangerahh yes
15:08.54tzangerhendrix the man with the biggest fuckin hands of anyone who plays guitar :-)
15:09.08tzangerI can bring my guitars if I can get to cluecon
15:09.15anthmi love that chord tho
15:09.22coppicedunno. his son's hands look pretty big too
15:09.33tzangermy favourite chord is F#m
15:09.37vaewynI say we do some expirementation on irritation thresholds :P
15:09.37tzangercoppice: :-)
15:09.43anthmit's awesome you can move it around there are like 5 or 6 places it works
15:09.59anthmyou may figure out the into to castles made of sand that way =p
15:10.06fileparty hearty
15:10.09dca[laptop]bkw, anthm, anyone, RT question...incoming calls...going to cached ip instead of ip in db...rtcachefriends possible messing up...???
15:10.16tzangerthat reminds me I gotta cut my nails, they're diggin into the fretboard
15:10.23tzangeroh coppice --
15:10.35tzangerdiggin aroudn in the nortel patents it seems that their E1s are 10bit not 8bit
15:10.35vaewyndon't fret tzanger!   ;P
15:10.38tzangerdoes that sound right?
15:10.41tzangervaewyn: that was *bad*
15:10.46anthmhmm dca i was just gonna ask a followup question but nooo you cant chill a sec to pay hommage to jimi
15:10.51bkw_dca[laptop], no its doing what it should.. don't cache them if you want the IP in the database right?
15:11.04dca[laptop]anthm: deepest apologies P)
15:11.20anthmare these boxes sharing the same db
15:11.21dca[laptop]bkw_: happens with or without rtcachefriends
15:11.25dca[laptop]anthm: yes
15:11.33pawallsAre there any sound cards with hardware mp3 decoding that work that way in Linux?
15:11.44bkw_pawalls, why?
15:11.47pawallsLike, one that has drivers that actually support that.
15:11.52bkw_but why?
15:11.55pawallsbkw_, I figure it doesn't hurt if we're doing on-hold music.
15:11.57anthmand what is your problem exactly ?
15:12.01bkw_but why?
15:12.07pawallsTo offload some of the strain on the cpu?
15:12.15pawallsso that as much of it as possible can be used for managing calls.
15:12.18bkw_um that takes so little cpu
15:12.21bkw_and only when in use
15:12.29vaewynpre decode it then and drop it as ulaw... or gsm... or whatever
15:12.38bkw_haha
15:12.39vaewynbwahahaha
15:12.39bkw_file be nice
15:12.43pawallsbkw_, My question still stands.
15:12.50tzangercoppice: the patents talk about 10 bits per timeslot instead of 8 (I'm talking between modules, not actual PSTN E1)
15:12.50bkw_its not a logical thing
15:12.53vaewynbkw_: he was being nice!   ;P
15:12.54pawallsAny sound cards with drivers that support that?
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15:13.01bkw_you'll waste more time trying to get it to work than your CPU will use for 10 years
15:13.10fileyay years
15:13.12dca[laptop]anthm: i was under the impression that rtcachefriends would load the ip for all the peers out of the db on load. is that not right?
15:13.16tzangerand 10 bits per timeslot * 32 timeslots * 8000 time/sec = 2.56MHz
15:13.34bkw_see so little cpu?
15:13.47Mochehe
15:13.55pawallsbkw_, I don't think he was referring to mp3 decoding.
15:13.58anthmumm no
15:14.09dca[laptop]anthm: but what happens is the new box has X peers (from iax2 show peers) and the old box has 5X peers
15:14.18dca[laptop]anthm: but both from the same db
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15:14.27anthmwhat it does it to make them load in realtime but not to forget them once they have been used
15:14.32bkw_dca[laptop], are you using res_config_mysql?
15:14.38dca[laptop]bkw: odbc
15:14.41bkw_good
15:14.44dca[laptop]:)
15:14.46fileI ain't no hollaback girl!
15:14.51dca[laptop]you tought me well :)
15:14.56anthmif you want to laod them all in advance then use the config handler instead of realtime
15:14.57bkw_good
15:15.16tzangersweet I can still play fox on the run
15:15.21dca[laptop]anthm: sorry, "config handler"
15:15.28tzanger(the bluegrass song not the rock one)
15:15.31dca[laptop]you mean the .conf files?
15:15.45bkw_I know what dca is trying to do
15:15.47bkw_register to 1 box
15:15.48anthmbkw, you wanna tell him where a link is to using config+mysql
15:15.49bkw_but call from another
15:16.10bkw_he's trying to cluster asterisk
15:16.15dca[laptop]bkw: basically when a call comes from my box to a user, i want RT to look up the ip in the db each time
15:16.17dca[laptop]bkw: right
15:16.17bkw_but it won't work
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15:16.23bkw_you can't cache them
15:16.23fileBoRiS!!!
15:16.34BoRiSGood morning!!!
15:16.36bkw_he wants every box in the cluster to use the ip from the database
15:16.38pawallsHow does asterisk handle the hold music?
15:16.38vaewynNaTaSha!
15:16.41vaewynerr
15:16.43vaewyn:P
15:16.48dca[laptop]bkw_: precisely :)
15:16.49BoRiSfile!!! bkw_!!!
15:16.51newlAh Satan!
15:16.57pawallsDoes it decode it a single time and just play the ulaw to all connected peers? Or does it do a separate mpg123 per peer?
15:17.00bkw_dca don't cache then
15:17.10BoRiSWhat's up?
15:17.12bkw_pawalls, one process/pipe
15:17.17dca[laptop]bkw_: but when i comment out rtcachefriends...same thing
15:17.20anthmdoes it even matter
15:17.20pawallsbkw_, Total?
15:17.22pawallsHmm..
15:17.25bkw_it only decodes when things read from the pipe
15:17.32fileBoRiS: not too much, you?
15:17.38bkw_1 mpg123 per music class
15:17.44anthmif you find a peer on realtime it always writes the ip into the db no
15:17.44pawallsGotcha..
15:17.47pawallsThat's not so bad then.
15:18.00dca[laptop]bkw_: so basically you are saying don't use rtcachefriends? or is there something else?
15:18.10bkw_give me a sec and i'll think about it
15:18.12dca[laptop]k
15:18.13bkw_I have to step out for like 30 min
15:18.19dca[laptop]tks
15:18.19bkw_DAMN CRAP I have to take care of
15:18.20bkw_haha
15:18.28filebananas!
15:18.39anthmis this for outbound calls ?
15:19.02anthmyou want to find the correct ip for a registered user ?
15:19.05dca[laptop]right
15:19.11anthmyou can cheat,
15:19.16dca[laptop]ooooh, do tell
15:19.21anthmuse app_realtime
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15:19.36dca[laptop]use in what way?
15:19.37anthmif you put it in the dialplan to do
15:19.55dca[laptop]oh, so hmm, do a db lookup for the ip?
15:20.06anthmrealtime(name=${INTENDED_PEER})
15:20.27anthmerr rather
15:20.35anthmrealtime(iaxfriends, name=${INTENDED_PEER})
15:20.58anthmthen you will set vars
15:20.59filevaewyn: evil!
15:21.00BoRiSanthm: What about updating the database with RealtimeUpdate with a variable?
15:21.07anthmwith all the fields about that peer
15:21.27dca[laptop]anthm: is there a way to do that accross the board from the cli?
15:21.27vaewynfile: with bkw_ it's a given :P
15:21.30anthmso you can formulat a Dial(IAX2/${IP})
15:21.33anthmor something like that
15:21.34filevaewyn: this is true
15:21.54anthmacross what bord ?
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15:22.32dca[laptop]is there a way to tell the rtcache, "don't wait for a register from the peer, just look up all peers in the db now and cache them"
15:22.40filepicky picky
15:22.43tzangerwow I"ve got over 800 emails over the long weeknd
15:22.45anthmwhat i'm telling you to do is instead of using the registration thing use app_realtime to fetch the ip and call it that way
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15:22.47Nuggetyipe
15:22.54anthmso the reg box does all the reging
15:23.05anthmif it's reged the realtime thing will find the ip
15:23.20anthmif not it's gonna be blank so you logic route to Congestion or something
15:23.26hellopCan Asterisk be a print-to-fax server?
15:23.40file"I want asterisk to be this, I want asterisk to do that"
15:23.45dca[laptop]anthm: no, i get what you are saying (i think), i'm just wondering if there is a less invasive way (meaning, no major dialplan mods)
15:24.01anthmmajor? its like 2 lines
15:24.09dca[laptop]2 lines for every user though
15:24.11dca[laptop]er, peer
15:24.20anthmmake it a macro
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15:24.31hellopfile, well it is plugged into the fax line...
15:24.42dca[laptop]but still the macro(blah) would have to be thrown into each users extension
15:25.01hellopor, even e-mail bmp to fax is fine...
15:25.05dca[laptop]well, maybe i could piggy back another macro...hmm
15:25.08anthmwhat is each users extension now?
15:25.31filehellop: rxfax/txfax, go Google
15:25.40filecreated by coppice over there!
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15:25.47dca[laptop]there's like 3-5 lines depending for the incoming number of each user
15:25.53anthmdo you have arbitrary exten # leading to alphanumeric peer names ?
15:25.57hellopoh yeah?  cool
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15:26.32dca[laptop]anthm: each peer has an exten, there are some vars loaded when a peers is dialed
15:26.48dca[laptop]anthm: the change you have proposed, while workable, would require 2 extra lines for each peer
15:27.03dca[laptop]anthm: my frustration is that rt is so darn close to being perfect for my application
15:27.16fantomax1hi all
15:27.25dca[laptop]anthm: if only there were a way to tell the cache to lookup all lpeers in the db instead of waiting for them to (re)register
15:27.33anthmwell really you could probably do it with 1 exten total if you did it better
15:27.51Nuggetor with a macro, minimally.
15:28.16anthm1) name the peers after the exten
15:28.18Nuggetbut yes, I'll bet anthm is correct -- it's likely possible with a single extension
15:28.19dca[laptop]anthm: curious what the point of logging the ip in the rt db is if there is no lookup against it
15:28.36anthm2) put the info you want in the vars in the db too so when you realtime lookup you inherit them too
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15:29.05anthmexten => _X.,1,Realtime(iaxpeers,name=${EXTEN})
15:29.24anthmexten => _X.,2,Dial(IAX2/${IP})
15:29.26tzangeranthm: have you convinced bkw to get the tdm-facing boxes updated to CVS HEAD?
15:29.40Godseymy kernel was built w/ gcc4 with -mtune=pentium4
15:29.48dca[laptop]anthm: i can't rename all the peers though, more than just rt depends on it
15:29.49Godseyis there any way I can build zaptel w/ gcc 3.3.5?
15:30.13anthmok, then put the exten in the db too
15:30.18hellopDo you guys think an 800mgz box is sufficent for running 6 IP phones and 2FXO lines?  Or, for an office, better to just get a 2.8ghz Sempron?
15:30.19anthmexten => _X.,1,Realtime(iaxpeers,exten=${EXTEN})
15:30.46Godseyhellop: should be plenty cpu
15:30.51anthmANY col in the db will exist as a var once you call that and there is a match
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15:31.12anthmtzanger you mean for asterlink ?
15:31.23anthmi dont have to convince him he has to convince me =D
15:31.25tzangeranthm: yes
15:31.26fantomax1does anyone knows how * deal with Absolutetimeout ?
15:31.31gdhHullo - anyone been able to compile chan_capi with current CVS HEAD?
15:31.50gdhEven http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-dev/2005-April/011553.html fails on multiple hunks after the end-of-line cleanups...
15:31.51dca[laptop]anthm: okay, i get what you are saying and will seen if there is anyway to make this work in our application without major invasive changes, but what log the ip in the db if i RT doesn't do a lookup against it?
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15:33.30anthmwhenever the peer registers the ip is updated
15:33.53filethis is the question that never ends...
15:33.55RoyKgrep RANDOM /root/.profile
15:33.56RoyK[ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo "You live"
15:33.57fileit just goes on and on my friend
15:33.59dca[laptop]anthm: right, but why bother? it doesn't make any differenct to RT, so why put it in the db?
15:34.03filedca started asking it, being quite disgruntled
15:34.11fileand he'll continue asking it forever just because it is the question that never ends
15:34.16dca[laptop]eh?
15:34.16MikeJ[Laptop]why not function instead of app... then you can do ${Realtime(iaxpeers|field)} or somtin?
15:34.20hellopWhat do you think about taking the dedicated fax line and using it for an extra outgoing?  Is there a way to still accept incoming faxes on it, through call waiting or some device?
15:35.13anthmregluar realtime looks it up every time
15:35.27anthmthe chaced one only avoids looking up the peer again
15:35.40dca[laptop]"regular"?
15:35.43anthmbut the registration thing always writes the ip to the db
15:35.51anthmcome to cluecon
15:35.57dca[laptop]oh, the cached one, i get it
15:36.02MikeJ[Laptop]what's cluecon?
15:36.34JunK-Ycluecon is a pills, you should take it.
15:36.35dca[laptop]so, question, if i remove the rtcachefriends=yes (maybe change that to no) then it will look the ip up against the ip each time?
15:36.36anthmwhy it's the awesomest expo of the summer featuring voip developers from far ans wide
15:36.58MikeJ[Laptop]that sounds great.. but is it expensive?
15:37.00hellopright after I ask my fax question, the devloper of the fax software quits.
15:37.04dca[laptop]anthm: but then i lose all the cool features of show peers, MWI, etc... which at this point may be acceptable
15:37.08tzangerwtf
15:37.10anthmif there is no cahce it looks it up every time
15:37.10JunK-Ydunno, around 650 bucks! :)
15:37.15tzangerCVS HEAD's permissions keep getting fucked up
15:37.23tzangerthis is a fresh slack10.1 install too so it ain't my end
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15:37.38tzangerthe perms on all the files are 444 not 644
15:37.43dca[laptop]anthm: so would you say for a short term solution, the least invasive change might just be to do rtcachefriends=no ?
15:37.58dca[laptop]anthm: then it would be forced to look up the ip each time?
15:37.59anthmi dont know how that will help you
15:38.06anthmhow often is the ip gonna change in 5 min
15:38.12anthmthe cache time is controlable
15:38.21oejRoyK: Don't forget to fax me today :-)
15:38.35anthmif it regegisters on a cahced peer it will update it in asterisk and in the db
15:38.58dca[laptop]anthm: this is for a clustered app, two boxes, one db, the prob is that while one box knows where to send the call, the other box doesn't
15:38.59anthmare you doing round robin or something
15:39.12anthmbah you are gonna get the meter running soon
15:39.14_omerif TDM400P is being used for single T1 ....then do we need FXS Interface cards as well?
15:39.27anthmthis is a "few k" type of problem to fix
15:39.50vaewyn_omer: umm... TDM400P deals with POTS lines... not Ts
15:39.55MikeJ[Laptop]_omer, the TDM400..
15:40.01MikeJ[Laptop]ok that covers it :)
15:40.13_omerthen ? which card is for Ts ?
15:40.19gdhIf you're using a TDM400P with a T1, I think we'd all like to hear how :)
15:40.22_omerTE410P
15:40.30vaewynTE405 or TE410P...  or the single port versions
15:41.18_omerok If TE410P  ....is being used in Asterisk...then what FXS interface card is available?
15:41.34vaewynYou need to drive some phone lines?
15:41.43_omerno ..... its a call center
15:42.01vaewynSIP phones?
15:42.28_omerI think SIP Phones are better than FXS Interface cards..isn't it ?
15:42.34vaewynyep
15:42.38vaewynvastly
15:42.48_omergreat! ..
15:43.18xhelioxthere aren't any IAX phones, are there?
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15:43.34vaewynSo... a T card to get calls in over the T1... and either polycom or cisco phones for the agents
15:43.38Skidhow would that work..
15:43.51Skidwaiting for it to arrive
15:43.57Skidand no doubt i'll be up all night playing :)
15:44.20_omerthanks vaewyn
15:44.27vaewynno prob
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15:49.45Godseyeverything except meetme works w/ out zaptel right?
15:49.59fileand IAX2 trunking
15:50.01vaewynMoH can sometime stutter without it
15:50.12vaewynyeah... and trunking
15:50.23gordonjcpok
15:50.31gdhUse a ZapHFC card for a cheap timer if you don't want an X100P :)
15:50.39gordonjcplack of zaptel wouldn't cause stuttery sound on IAX calls?
15:53.00tzangergordonjcp: not unless you need a zap interface but I odn't think it'd be stuttering then :-)
15:55.10InfraRedX100P are about £10 on ebay
15:55.48znoGanyone have a clue why distinctive ring patterns are more or less random?
15:55.58gdhthe hfc-s ISDN cards are about the same and not  a 'tiget jet' ;)
15:56.04InfraRednot enough voltage/current ?
15:56.04gdhanyway, to bed...
15:56.27xhelioxI don't understand why everyone dogs on the Tiger Jet cards :)
15:56.30xhelioxthey seem to work.. :-/
15:57.22gordonjcptzanger: didn't think that was the problem, I suspect it's an iaxclient / alsa prob
15:59.07vaewynxheliox: the clones?
15:59.26xhelioxYeah.
15:59.29vaewyncause some of the '100% compatible' clones are worthless garbage
15:59.43xhelioxI guess I got lucky.
15:59.44vaewynIE/IA 92 are the only clones that work...
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16:00.14asterisk99I am trying to compile Zaptel and get a unresolved reference to crc_ccitt_table ---- Googling, I see others have had it too --- Problem is, I dunno what's the proper solution --- ANYONE?
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16:02.38xhelioxvaewyn: So my "Tiger3xx" modem isn't going to work? It seems to dial and receive properly -- what's bad about them?
16:03.29vaewynxheliox: various things...  usually issues with callerid and rx/tx levels... depends on the card...  and not all clones are bad...  just a lot of them are
16:03.53newmediancue the adage: "You get what you pay for."
16:03.55wrmemasterisk99: Compile error or modprobe error?
16:04.05xhelioxwhen I put this in production, I intend on buying digium hardware
16:04.09vaewynIs ok though... I got so ticked I am totally off FXO :}  PRI is the only way to go
16:04.13xhelioxbut for now, the $12 clone seems to do the job for me
16:04.14asterisk99wrmem: modprobe
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16:04.59xhelioxhow many lines would someone need to have before PRI becomes feasible?
16:04.59filehail denon
16:05.24vaewynxheliox: depends on your telco's rates
16:05.32vaewynmost places 7-11 lines
16:05.44wrmemasterisk99: You need a Linux kernel with the CRC library compiled in or as a module
16:05.45vaewyn(for a full PRI)
16:05.47xhelioxPRI will do up to 23 channels, right?
16:05.56vaewyncorrect...  23 channels... unlimited DIDs
16:06.19xhelioxT1 does 24, but doesn't do CallerID, no?
16:06.19file23 yummy channels of goodness
16:06.34asterisk99wrmem: ok. now to figure ouot how to do that with Gentoo 2005.0
16:06.39vaewynit can... but it does it between ring style...
16:06.53vaewynhaving the D channel is worth it... instant dialing and instant ringthrough
16:07.24xhelioxfair enough -- just getting my facts in order :)
16:07.38fileout of band progress notification mmm
16:07.51MikeJ[Laptop]PRI can be more than 23 channels :)
16:07.56vaewynyeah... you also get cal termination signalling... :}
16:08.02vaewyncall even
16:08.04wrmemasterisk99: "make menuconfig" in your Linux source tree (/usr/src/linux ?)
16:08.17vaewynPRI can be any number of channels...  but a single T1 PRI is 23 :P
16:08.19asterisk99wrmenu: yes, i am there now
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16:08.57MikeJ[Laptop]I have a pri on t1 with 24 channels... but I suppose the d channel being on the guy next to him makes that a little diff :p
16:09.12vaewynlike our PRI is 406 channels...  + 2D channels
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16:09.26vaewyn17 T1s
16:09.37vaewynwhich reminds me...  need to bug them again about the T3
16:09.38MikeJ[Laptop]:D
16:09.47BoRiSDoes asterisk support arrays and "for" loops in the dialplan?
16:09.50MikeJ[Laptop]see.. .that's more like it
16:09.53wrmemvaewyn: watch your # of calls / minute.  You only have a 64kbps channel for call setup
16:09.57MikeJ[Laptop]BoRiS, while
16:10.21vaewynwrmem: have watched it... we barely overflow the 1st D at peek call times
16:10.27vaewynpeak even
16:10.28MikeJ[Laptop]but you would have to do somthing funky with a delimited string and cut, no arrays
16:10.42asterisk99wrmem: do you have a hihnt for where I can find this kernel config option?
16:10.46wrmemDual D channels in NFAS - I didn't know it would spill over - I thought it was backup only
16:10.52asterisk99wrmem: do you have a hint for where I can find this kernel config option?
16:11.12vaewynwrmem: ;} that's what the telco wants you to think... cause they are lazy bums ;P
16:11.29MikeJ[Laptop]bastards
16:12.31asterisk99wrmem: I found CRC-CCITT functions under Library routines --- is thhat it???
16:12.34wrmemasterisk99: misc, I think.   Take like the last option on the page (thinking from memory).  It's CONFIG_CRC_CCITT and the rest
16:12.39vaewynT3 will be nice... mmm... what to do with all those extra channels   :P
16:12.52vaewynso who do we want to win american idol?   ;P
16:12.54Qwellvaewyn: tdmoe them here
16:13.02vaewynhehehe
16:13.05Qwell:)
16:13.32wrmemvaewyn: So NFAS gives you extra bandwidth for call setup?  For all providers?
16:13.32Qwellhell, use the rest for data
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16:14.12vaewynwrmem: we only have one provider... not sure how it works elsewhere...
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16:14.30vaewynQwell: another provider...  we are in SBC land... I don't want Data on those Ts
16:14.33wrmemvaewyn: It probably does - makes sense.  Just never thought of it.
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16:14.52Qwellahh
16:15.06vaewynwe have private fiber going through to Merit/Michnet anyways so... those Ts are disappearing soon
16:15.07wrmemwrmem wonders if zaptel does the right thing if acting as the network side of a PRI.  Hmm
16:15.21tzangerwrmem: seems to for me
16:15.24vaewynwrmem: I am doing network side for 5ess
16:15.28vaewynworks great
16:16.09vaewynNorhell screams a bit on first setup... but then is fine with it
16:16.28tzangerI'm doing ni2 and dms100
16:16.31tzangerseems to wrk finie
16:16.33tzangerheh
16:16.36tzangerI can't type fine though
16:16.39tzangeranyway off to lunch, later
16:17.20vaewynI was doing NI2... but Norhell's have an 'undocumented feature' that you can't call off them to trunk lines when using NI2.... you change to 5ess and they work great
16:17.23vaewynvery stupid
16:17.49loutuxhi everybody..
16:17.59znoGhi dr nick!
16:18.12moonwickso, did broadvoice work out their problems yet?
16:18.21moonwickI've got a friend who's been bugging me about 'em
16:19.00loutuxI have a problem with CDR... duration and billsec are the same value
16:19.25loutuxSomeone can you help me??
16:19.28fileloutux: and how are you terminating the call? VoIP? analog?
16:19.41loutuxVoIP
16:20.03fileare you immediately answering the call in your dialplan?
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16:21.58Skiddo you guys recommend any good text-to-speech for dialplans/menus ?
16:22.11wrmemskid: Cepstral
16:22.24PuNkErXhey, has anyone here done any IAX trunking?
16:22.24SkidI've used rehtorical (sp?)
16:22.28loutuxI don`t understand the question.. but.. when I call sip1 to sip2 extension, sip1 wait until sip2 response
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16:22.30Skidbut there's a few minor irritating things
16:22.33Skidthanks, i'll google
16:22.50wrmemskid: Call 217-244-0002.  It's our automatic Status system running Cepstral and Asterisk
16:23.03fileloutux: pastebin (pastebin.ca) what you see on the CLI, and your dialplan
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16:23.49Skidwrmem: I'm not based in the states
16:23.55Skidbut this rehtorical sounds better so far
16:23.58Skid(compred to the demo)
16:24.46wrmemskid: Thanks I'll look at it
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16:24.51drmacanyone help me with new dialplan functions? i cant get the syntax right..
16:24.54drmacSet(MYCALLERIDNUM = IF(ISNULL(${CALLERIDNUM}) ? "Unknown" : ${CALLERIDNUM}))
16:24.57Skidits been taken over by some company
16:25.08Skidwrmem: I'll pm you a snippet if you want?
16:25.24Skidlemme just upload one
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16:26.07loutuxin CDR table, I see duration and billsec have the same value... but the time of the call isn´t same
16:26.15DEEZEDis E911 ruling going to effect IAX providers?
16:26.35fileloutux: yes i know you've said that
16:26.38crash3m_not_at_wis it terminated by a PSTN carrier?
16:26.41Qwellif they hit the pstn
16:26.44fileloutux: the reason is probably because asterisk thinks it was answered
16:27.09fileyou've gotta figure out why it thinks that
16:27.12hellop911 is just a cover for Big Brother needing to track yo ass.
16:27.22DEEZEDshoot.. i didn't think 800 numbers needed 911.. seems like that should be more for local DID's or consumers
16:27.23gordonjcpwhy do they need to cover 911 anyway?
16:27.28Skidyou know on voicemail, if you press "#", is there anyway to stop asterisk from playing the Goodbye "Thank you" ?
16:27.41filepicky people, picky picky picky
16:27.46PuNkErXlol
16:27.49file"I want it to be EXACTLY like this, now tell me how"
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16:28.03NewSolehey fale....
16:28.05DEEZEDI want no e11
16:28.06QwellSkid: use the source
16:28.06NewSolefile...
16:28.09gordonjcpif you had an emergency, wouldn't you just call them from your mobile, rather than run around looking for a landline phone?
16:28.09filehi
16:28.20NewSolegot a question for u
16:28.21SkidQwell: sorry, I don't really understand wht you mean?
16:28.22Skidwhat*
16:28.25fileNewSole: okay
16:28.27newmediangordonjcp logic doesn't enter into it.
16:28.32SkidI've got a custom thank you wav to play after the voicemail
16:28.35NewSolecall transfer and blind transfer.....
16:28.36Skidwhich is our own thank you, blah blah blah
16:28.42DEEZEDthink they just want more regulatory fees?
16:28.43Skidbut it doesn't seem to work
16:28.45QwellSkid: edit the source
16:28.46fileNewSole: what protocol, what way, details!
16:28.46wrmemskid: Doesn't seem much better if I use their interactive demo (US English).  Is there something different that I need to do to get rid of the "warbling"?
16:29.02NewSolewhy in HELL does it take so long.....
16:29.07Skidwell, I use their scottish woman.. sounds the best so far
16:29.13Skidstill looking around
16:29.17fileNewSole: you're being very generic
16:29.21newmedianif it ain't brogue, don't fix it.
16:29.32NewSoleits a genaric question...
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16:29.43filebecause blind transfers work fast and fine for me
16:29.45fileon SIP.
16:30.10wrmemskid: Nice find anyways.  Will have to do an indepth comparison.  For US English - it's close
16:30.13loutuxfile: but... the call wait (ring) until other sip response...
16:30.14NewSoleI use sip or IAX and both dont start stransfer process till 1.7 min after the number has been entered
16:30.30fileloutux: okay I've given up on you.
16:30.35gordonjcpSkid: there's a reason why most of the UK's call centres are in Scotland...
16:30.41fileNewSole: you mean using # ?
16:30.46Skidgordonjcp: indeed :P
16:30.50loutuxbut the CDR register this call since the first ring... :(
16:31.06NewSoleya... the ## or #0
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16:31.19fileNewSole: oh that, see you never said that
16:31.25fileNewSole: hit a # after you enter the number and see if it works
16:31.33loutuxOki
16:31.35NewSoleit does not
16:31.39NewSoletried that
16:32.05NewSolewhat do you use
16:32.12filethe transfer button on my phone.
16:32.28NewSoleya but our phones dont have that...
16:32.32NewSolethey are iax
16:32.47filehvae fun with that haha
16:32.52NewSolelo
16:33.24loutuxfile: is that relationed with reverse polarity??
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16:33.54fileloutux: I'm not repeating myself.
16:35.09loutux:(
16:35.40filego all unhappy face all you want, it has no effect on me
16:35.43fileI've been here too long
16:36.09loutuxok
16:36.20fileMikeJ[Laptop]: help loutux
16:37.15loutuxtell me ..
16:38.37znoGwould be nice to have a feature in asterisk that lets you specify the context for ANY distinctive ring pattern other than 0,0,0
16:38.41SuPrSluGi'm getting echo on an iax channel. could it be because the sip phone is next to an analog phone?
16:39.41asterisk99wrmem: I recompiled kernel with CRC-CCITT functions set and re- emerged zaptel with devfs26 set :: hopefully this is it
16:45.51jeremywhitinghi all, having a problem with time zones of asterisk servers, anyone experienced this before?
16:46.22jeremywhitingone in timezone where it's 11:45 now complains about scheduling in the past when request comes from one that's at 10:45 now
16:46.22SkidI did wrt to the voicemail time stamps, as no matter what I did couldn't get 24hr timestamps to work
16:46.25Corydon-wwith time zones?
16:46.42jeremywhitingyeah, one server in mountain time zone the other in central us
16:46.52Corydon-wShouldn't make a difference
16:47.10Corydon-wScheduling in past refers to clock drift on the local machine
16:47.29NewSoleyes
16:47.32jeremywhitingproblem is one in central complains that Request to schedule in the past?!?! and call is never sent through
16:47.48Corydon-wWhy not change both to GMT?
16:47.52NewSolewrong window
16:48.06NuggetGMT is more properly called UTC, but otherwise I second the suggestion.
16:48.23Nuggetservers that think they're in a timezone are annoying.
16:48.37jeremywhitingbecause then I'd have to modify all my php scripts for website on said servers to show the time there correctly
16:49.09jeremywhitingisn't there a way to let asterisk know local time is local, not utc so it will play nicely or something maybe?
16:49.14onkeltimmtime is an illusion. lunchtime doubly so.
16:49.18onkeltimmcya all.
16:49.30Corydon-wPost a bug.
16:49.31Nuggetasterisk can cope just fine with the servers zone being utc.
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16:49.48Nuggetjust set a default timezone in voicemail.conf or set timezones for each user entry.
16:49.56Nuggetit works exactly as it should
16:50.19Corydon-wHeh, that is indeed why I wrote the timezones support into voicemail
16:50.22jeremywhitingso set a timezone in the iax.conf for the servers coming from different time zone? is that what you mean
16:50.43jeremywhitingdidn't know that was an option
16:51.06Corydon-wIf IAX is encoding local time into packets, that's a bug
16:51.58jeremywhitinghow does it usually synchronize requests then without sending a timestamp?
16:52.56Corydon-wWell, it should be sending the timestamps in GMT
16:53.07Nuggets/GMT/UTC/  :)
16:53.46Corydon-wNugget: either will work.
16:53.46Nuggetthey're not the same thing, technically.
16:53.49Nuggetthey can differ by as much as a second
16:53.53jeremywhitingoh, i see
16:54.08Nuggetbut unless you're an astronomer, I agree, the two are virtually interchangable.
16:54.12jeremywhitingmaybe one of my servers thinks it's bios time is utc or something then, I'll check it out
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16:55.17jeremywhitingyep one was set to think it was in utc, thanks for the help
16:55.56Nuggetanything that's ntp-synched is going to be UTC, and it's helpful to be precise when discussing things.  It's confusing enough without introducing ambiguity.
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16:58.17Corydon-wNugget: yeah, but some servers allow you to set the BIOS time to localtime instead of GMT
16:58.38Corydon-wMakes it not very global-friendly
16:58.47Nuggetagreed.
16:59.00jeremywhitingyeah, gentoo does, date was showing local time, etc and so was php scripts, but CLOCK was set to utc in /etc/rc.conf so I missed that one I guess
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17:00.52`SauronNugget!
17:01.23`Sauronyou still interested in doing the second nucleartaco event this month? :p
17:02.08gordonjcpmmmm taco
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17:02.22`Sauronyou could do it monday
17:02.24`Sauron*wink*
17:02.30Nuggetsure
17:03.27BoRiSAnyone have an "while" example in their dialplan?
17:03.55NuggetI might have better luck doing something on a saturday or sunday afternoon.
17:04.08Nugget(as far as getting people to show up on the nonstandard date)
17:04.11`Sauronworks for me
17:04.26`Sauronwednesdays are just way bad for me, due to prior weekly wednesday events
17:04.31`Saurons/events/engagements
17:04.33Nugget*nod*
17:05.08Nuggetwe had two taco nights in may, so I'll see about displacing the normal one we'd have had on the 8th.
17:05.24Qwell"Viruses and Spyware are third party software, and are not supported by Dell."
17:05.33`Sauronwow, you're like right down the road from some friends of mine
17:05.34`Sauronwell
17:05.36`Sauronnot you
17:05.40`Sauroncowhouse v2 is
17:05.59Nuggetthat whole neighborhood is huge and sprawling
17:06.05`Sauronyeah
17:06.16`Sauronwell, I know people on the end of that block on oro valley
17:06.28`Sauronlike, prolly their neighbors
17:06.43`Sauronand I know people right around the corner on elkhorn mountain
17:06.49*** join/#asterisk folsson (~filip@h100n2fls35o985.telia.com)
17:06.54`Sauronand then our cadre has occupied 2 houses on tamayo
17:07.06Nuggetheh, that's where cowhouse v1 was  :)
17:07.21Nuggetamasia and tamayo
17:07.23`Sauronand I'll prolly look into maybe getting a house in that area after I see how much money my bank will give me
17:07.25`Sauronrofl
17:07.42`SauronMy gf's house is right across tamayo from the mailboxes at that intersection
17:07.44`Sauronthat's funny
17:07.48Nuggetheh
17:09.52moonwickanother austinite?  woot.
17:10.09`Sauronsince april 20th, 1998
17:10.22`SauronI'm almost old skool austinite
17:10.23`Sauron:p
17:10.23moonwickdamn, you beat me.  :P
17:10.39`Sauronsnicker
17:10.42moonwickI remember when 183 past mcneil wasn't raised!
17:11.02`SauronI remember when there was nothing on 1325 north of wells branch
17:11.10`Sauronuntil you got to wal-mart by i-35
17:11.35`SauronAnd when Austin Java company was still on anderson mills/183 behind the taco cabana
17:11.57`Sauron'course, then again, I have friends who remember when the mopac/183 intersection was a 4-way light
17:12.17`Sauronmoonwick: Funny you should start talking. I'm staring at a pic of you on the cell
17:12.25`Sauron"moonwick and leto inspect the damage to the Miata"
17:12.35Nuggetheh
17:12.38moonwickheh
17:12.42`Sauronheh
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17:13.17`Sauronhum
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17:13.38`Saurondecibel's tow warning looks like the mud 1 tow warnings
17:13.53`SauronI imagine that it stood at cowhouse1?
17:14.04asterisk99anyone know how to debug a ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 1: No such device or address (6)    in response to ztcfg ??
17:14.09gtigeneHow can I fix it so certain agents are automatically logged when Asterisk starts up?
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17:14.25jeremywhitinganyone know the difference between _9XXX and 9XXX in extensions.conf?
17:14.35Qwell9XXX will match 9XXX
17:14.46Qwell_9XXX will match 9000, 9001, 9002, etc
17:14.49allanonthe underscore precedes a pattern match
17:15.02Flyboy6440lol
17:15.22jeremywhitingso you have to put _ for X to match numbers instead of X's when would you dial X's ?
17:15.34Qwellcorrect
17:15.41Qwelland its for far more then just X
17:15.48Qwellits for any of the pattern matching
17:15.50jeremywhitingfor N and stuff too, etc
17:15.51jeremywhitinggot it
17:15.52jeremywhitingthanks
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17:18.26DEEZEDare they going to have astricon in the US this year?
17:18.52Qwellsupposed to
17:18.55Qwellno details yet
17:18.58gtigeneIs there a way to have a script run automatically when Asterisk starts up?
17:19.43azasadnywhat are recomended tx and rx gain settings?
17:20.02Qwellazasadny: Whatever work best for you.
17:20.27gtigeneasterisk99: It sounds like the system does not find your Digium card.
17:20.53azasadnystupid question but I'm assuming tx is what asterisk is outputting to the telco?
17:21.08asterisk99gtigene: you may be right ---- now to figure out why
17:21.34gtigeneasterisk99: What kind of DIgium card is it?
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17:22.09asterisk99gtigene: Developer's card with 1 FXO and 1 FXS
17:22.24asterisk99gtigene: 400P I think
17:22.50gtigeneasterisk99: I think this type of card requires power to be plugged into the back of the card and if so if there is no power plugged in...
17:23.09azasadnydoes any one have any tips on cancelling echo on pots lines?
17:23.18asterisk99gtigene: I connected it to the power supply
17:23.37gtigeneasterisk99: Well I guess that is all I know. Good luck.
17:23.49asterisk99gtigene: Thanks
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17:24.38Smi|kis there any ip phones that integrate with a nice looking computer program for dialing
17:24.55Qwellholy crap
17:25.14QwellYou'd think going from the US to India, back to the US, then back to India, would give some kind of comfort noise
17:25.17jaigerazasadny, I use a T1 echo canceller between my channel bank and *
17:25.48azasadnyIm still using post lines
17:25.51azasadnypots
17:26.18jaigerazasadny, me too.  I have a channel bank with FXO ports connected to my POTS service
17:26.49azasadnywhere could I get one?
17:27.03jaigerazasadny, for non-channel bank POTS I've been considering trying out voicetronix hardware
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17:27.50PuNkErXhas anyone here successfully set up iax trunking?
17:29.20fileoej: wanna see some weird behavior of a SIP device/chan_sip? :)
17:29.38PuNkErXsure
17:29.39PuNkErXlol
17:29.50filePuNkErX: you're not oej
17:30.01PuNkErXlol, i could be....
17:30.09fileI doubt it
17:30.24oejFile: Sure, always love to see that
17:30.28fileoej: http://pastebin.ca/12437
17:31.20oejFile: What kind of device are you using?
17:31.27fileoej: Hitachi WIP-5000
17:31.52fileit's weird...
17:32.36oejfile: I see the bug now. Thanks. We are ignoring the second invite, should not send 488 at all
17:32.38vaewynOoo!!! I have 3 of those...  nice phones... DON'T USE THE WEB SETUP!
17:32.39vaewyn:P
17:32.53fileoej: exactly
17:33.15vaewynfile: that the bug where sometimes you make a call with those and it rejects?
17:33.23fileyes
17:33.27vaewynbut you make another call immediately and it is fine
17:33.28vaewyngood!
17:33.32fileit's gotten worse lately
17:33.36vaewynI have been annoyed at that for weeks
17:33.40oejfile: It's a timing issue, but the 488 breaks everything
17:33.47filevaewyn: Welcome to the club!
17:33.53oejfile: You *should* set the realm to something else than "asterisk"
17:34.02oejfile :-)
17:34.08fileoej: minor detail
17:34.09file:)
17:34.33filebut, uh, yeah any thoughts for fixing? :)
17:34.45vaewynman... I shoulda already filed a bug on it...
17:34.53oejfile: CvS head?
17:35.03fileoej: you better believe it!
17:35.06vaewynoej: I can verify it does it in head
17:35.07oejWe have many bugs on SIP timing
17:35.27oejAnd I have a patch that needs testing - I need help with the SIP timer patch in the bug tracker. Please help me!
17:35.35filewhat bug number is it?
17:35.43oejIt's propably easy to find, but I miss it
17:36.03oej#4539
17:36.08filethere it is...
17:36.12filedangerous, haha
17:36.28fileyou make me smile sometimes
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17:37.18filehow sad, 16 out of 54 hunks FAILED
17:37.42Flyboy6440does an orange led on iaxy have meaning? or could it just be a fixed iaxy? anyone know?
17:37.46oejFile: on #4539?
17:37.56fileoej: 4359
17:38.11filebut yes.
17:38.46oejFile: another thing, find handle_request_invite and change the last two 488 - add "first" to one and "second" to the last one. Recompile and try the hitachi again, I want to know if that's where we end up
17:38.53oejI will check 4539
17:39.02filek lemme revert
17:39.33oejFile: Yes, you're right. Siptimers is a bad patch file. Will update.
17:39.39fileoej: wait I know where we end up
17:39.55fileoej: at the end of handle_request_invite
17:40.03fileoej: the else statement
17:40.41filethe (codec error) gave it away
17:41.43oejFile: new patch uploaded on #4539
17:42.01oejYes, that one - but which one?
17:42.06filethere's only one
17:42.23filedo a search for (codec error)
17:42.24fileyou'll find it
17:42.44oejI told you a few messages ago to look into exactly that part of the code :-)
17:42.48BoRiSAnyone have an "while/EndWhile" example in their dialplan?
17:42.53fileoej: do you need sleep? :)
17:43.11BoRiSoej always needs sleep
17:43.13fileoej: cause really, there's 3 488s in there and only 1 that has (codec error) in the reply :)
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17:43.33oejGuess I need sleep... :-)
17:43.51oejSo why do we end up with codec error on a ignored invite?
17:43.57openflyanyone know where i can get a couple cheap cisco power cubes?
17:44.01openflylike 4 of em?
17:44.49fileoej: it hits the check to see if we have a channel structure, if it doesn't it checks our joint capability and since we haven't gotten the SDP and done the codec stuff, it sends back a 488 with codec error
17:46.06fileand this patch really breaks chan_sip :)
17:46.22fileerrors here, errors there
17:46.32fileshido6: whattttt
17:46.52fileand it didn't fix my error
17:48.02oejfile: Yes, what we should do is send exactly the same packet as we did the first time...
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17:48.16oejfile: Which one? The SIP Timer patch?
17:48.36fileoej: yeah... and it's erroring here there and a few other places...
17:48.47oejError on compile?
17:48.51filenah running
17:48.58filehaha... Unknown SIP method -1
17:49.10oejThat's what I need to see
17:49.20filehasn't broken usage, that I can find, yet
17:49.24oejBut get it to crash and tell me why it crashes
17:49.28filek
17:53.03fileoh wow it crashed
17:53.29bkw_it?
17:53.30bkw_what?
17:53.59bkw_yes
17:54.07bkw_i'm about to have to help greg with something on da door
17:54.07bkw_haha
17:54.14bkw_he's installing the storm door
17:54.18bkw_this should be intresting
17:54.24bkw_brb
17:54.54MikeJ[Laptop]heh
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17:55.24MikeJ[Laptop]get pictures..
17:55.31filegah can't get a backtrace... how mean
17:55.31MiccHow is the head looking today?
17:55.43filevaewyn: poke
17:56.00MikeJ[Laptop]head good?
17:56.10SarahEmmanyone here do AGI in perl?
17:56.32sivanaMoc: ping
17:57.20MikeJ[Laptop]Micc, changing a bunch at times, not much at others.
17:58.01SarahEmmgah. i figured out it's not RECEIVE CHAR that's not working from AGI.pm, it's anything. it's not waiting for the AGI function to return before passing control back.
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18:02.30Tiliwhere can i learn more about creating RTP packets apart from RFCs
18:04.04fileoej: I'm getting a large build up of leftover sip channels
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18:04.12filethey are taking a long time to be destroyed
18:04.41jetsis mark planning to attend cluecon
18:04.52Qwellanybody got a non-indian friend at Dell?
18:04.55MikeJ[Laptop]jets, come and find out
18:05.00Qwellor, just non-idiot
18:05.12jetshrm or i'll just ask him :)
18:05.18MikeJ[Laptop]jets, he has said he would like to...
18:05.46filevaewyn: I think I got a fix, wanna test it?
18:05.55azasadnyviopsupply.com has cheap cisco power cubes
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18:06.04robin_szafternoon girls ...
18:06.25filewell... a semi-fix
18:06.29robin_szso .. for minumum bandwidth ... GSM or ilbc or ???
18:06.38fileg729
18:06.51jetswell ilbc...... eeep it's nasty
18:06.53jetsuse gsm
18:06.58robin_szOK
18:07.20robin_szseem to have filled my 2mbs full :)
18:07.24robin_szof ilbc,
18:07.36robin_szI'll swap the clients out onto gsm and see what gives
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18:23.14Uther_Pdoes inband dtmf mode work with the voicemail app yet?
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18:25.51zmityahi everybody...
18:25.59Uther_Phola
18:26.47zmityadid somebody play with remote-party-id ??? Asterisk does not send through this field for me :-(
18:26.52zmityacan sy help me??
18:27.39Uther_Pnever used it
18:28.19zmityathx.. anybody else ??
18:29.17zmityaas I know, * cannot create or modify rpid, but it should send through from SIP to SIP channel...
18:29.20blitzragekram: wb
18:29.40kramblitzrage: thanks pookie
18:29.47blitzragekram: lol - you actually are here! :)
18:29.55kramsorta yah
18:29.56kramheh
18:30.24blitzragekram: heh. I'm working on getting Cisco equipment to work with Asterisk for a client... yay!
18:30.29blitzrage</sarcasm>
18:31.10MiccWhy do I get a missing dependency operator error when I try to make asterisk-addons on my BSD box?
18:31.10QwellNEVER buy Dell.  NEVER
18:31.13blitzrageQwell: there will be NONE of that
18:31.18blitzrageQwell: well duh :)
18:31.36blitzrageQwell: apparently Compaq is better for servers... but I don't know how
18:31.48Qwellserver support for Dell is fine, I guess
18:31.52Uther_Panyone know if voicemail app supports inband yet?
18:31.52Qwellits just when you have to deal with idiots
18:31.59Uther_Por if not, if there is any intention of doing so?
18:32.04Miccblitzrage, because compaq baught DEC.
18:32.36SarahEmmQwell: ack! no!
18:32.53SarahEmmQwell: well, server themself *maybe*. i still don't like it. but anything else enterprise, ugh.
18:33.03shido6err
18:33.17SarahEmm'it's a CX-200 SAN.' 'okay, is that a laptop, or a desktop?' 'no, it's a SAN.' 'i'm not sure what you're saying.'
18:34.30blitzragehehehe
18:34.50blitzrageSarahEmm?  Wow... females use IRC and Asterisk?
18:35.16SarahEmmblitzrage: and code AGI! ;)
18:35.18Uther_Pits irc... that might be a guy... and that might be for h323, heeh
18:35.23Uther_P:D
18:35.24SarahEmmlol
18:35.29blitzragelol
18:35.36SarahEmmno, i'm using IAX and SIP, and i'm not a guy :P
18:35.42blitzrageSarahEmm: haha
18:35.48blitzragebelieve nothing on IRC
18:35.51SarahEmmokie! :)
18:37.08SarahEmm*shrug* i'm still who i am :)
18:37.23SarahEmm*goes back to writing a simpler perl AGI module*
18:37.27blitzrageSarahEmm: are you sure? :)
18:37.30vaewynremember... on IRC 'cute teen nymphos' equates to 'dirty old man that hasn't bathed in a year or more' :}
18:37.34SarahEmm*nods* Yep. :)
18:37.45SarahEmm<-- not a teen. :)
18:37.49vaewynhehehe
18:37.53Uther_Phaha
18:37.57blitzragewho is? :)
18:37.58asterisk99Does anyone know if the FXS & fXO daughter cards be moved (re-located) on Digium's TDM400P without having to sett jumpers or anything???
18:38.01blitzrageother than file I guess
18:38.11Uther_Pblitzrage: youare looking for one?
18:38.22vaewynasterisk99: swap them...  just have to change zaptel.conf
18:38.24blitzrageasterisk99: just pull them off and move them (remove from MB and power first :))
18:38.27Uther_Pasterisk99: moved?
18:38.39newmedianI find there's a bit much male juvenile behavior around Asterisk at the moment, e.g. slide 20 of astricon_performance.ppt; Yes, I know some of the images in that ppt were in jest. however.
18:38.41fileeh? EH?
18:38.47blitzragevaewyn: lol... maybe a teen female :)
18:39.16Uther_PI typed that
18:39.16Uther_Pheh
18:39.27blitzrageUther_P: bah... you're all the same
18:39.35asterisk99I am trying to figure out why the TDM400P with an FXO module in slot 1 will not work
18:39.35Uther_Pall the same?!!?
18:39.38SarahEmmnewmedian: *shrug* what oss project and irc channel doesn't have that? :)
18:39.58asterisk99anyone know how to debug a ZT_CHANCONFIG failed on channel 1: No such device or address (6)    in response to ztcfg ??
18:40.14Uther_Pnot the same as file, I'm an adult, not the same as SarahEmm, I don't claim to be a girl, and not the same as you, Im not looking for teenage girls
18:40.20Damin>/window balance
18:40.21Uther_P:D
18:40.31newmedianSarahEmm verily true. I couldn't help thinking that it didn't exactly present a welcoming environment though.
18:40.38DaminHmm..
18:40.43DaminWhat have I stumbled into?
18:41.04Uther_Pbe afraid
18:41.09SarahEmmDamin: hehee.
18:41.43Uther_Pits not about being juvenile
18:41.51Uther_PI'm not juvenile
18:41.54Uther_Pi'm eccentric :D
18:42.10newmedianUther_P: you have a problem with your orbit?
18:42.21Uther_Palways
18:42.35Uther_PI really more have a problem with gravity than orbit
18:42.48Uther_Palways trying to hold me down
18:42.57newmedianput less gravity on the mashed potato...
18:43.19Uther_Pheh
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18:46.07SarahEmmwooooo! got asterisk's TTY/TDD functionality working :o)
18:46.21Uther_Pfests?
18:46.22newmedianSarahEmm: ooh, interesting.
18:46.57SarahEmmnewmedian: been fighting with AGI.pm for days, gave up and just wrote my own much-simpler one, and now i have tdd functionality working :)
18:47.14SarahEmmnow i need to actually write scripts using it heh
18:48.23newmedianSarahEmm: nice.  I was musing on TDD last week, but don't have any hardware to test with.  Will you be documenting that for others? (Wiki or Website)?
18:48.45SarahEmmnewmedian: well, the functions are sortakinda documented. 'send text on channel' 'receive character on channel' and 'set tdd mode'
18:48.57SarahEmmi'll likely write a module that makes it easier to use and release it
18:49.23newmedianIt's always the implementation details that are thorny. It's always nice to have a working template to look at.
18:49.37blitzragewho's horny?
18:49.39blitzrageoh.... thorny
18:50.08SarahEmmnewmedian: *nods* when i started the project (i'm deploying * at home) i'd expected to have to write all the TDD functionality from scratch, so finding this already coded was a nice surprise :)
18:51.08newmedianSarahEmm: would be interested in hearing how well it goes for you as your development progresses. :)
18:51.27SarahEmmi tend to hang out here lately while working on * stuff, so i'm sure you will :)
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18:51.53SarahEmmi'd like to have the same thing available by TTY as there will be via voice, menu-wise and such.
18:53.08newmedianAny festival <-> TTY/TDD interaction?
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18:53.39newmedianTTS bridge, so to speak.
18:54.02SarahEmmnewmedian: hrm... that'd only work in one direction heh
18:54.09SarahEmm*thinks*
18:54.38SarahEmmhmm. what would you use that for?
18:54.40DEEZEDcan someone look at my CLI output and give me a suggestion why i cannot make an outbound call with nufone? http://pastebin.ca/12444
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18:54.46SarahEmmi know there's a use, but i'm on 2h of sleep and not thinking well ;)
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18:55.51newmedianTTY/TDD -> * => Festival => VOIP/PSTN   gateway. No? I was thinking for situations where you want to have an interactive conversation without having a middleman.
18:55.52shmaltzbkw_, anthm, file, any of you available?
18:56.09fileshmaltz: yes I just tried to get bkw's attention for you :P
18:56.12filehow freaky
18:56.18shmaltz;)
18:57.10SarahEmmnewmedian: okay, so i type, it goes to voice and is TX'ed over the line to the remote side... the remote side couldn't talk back tho, they'd have to type..
18:57.15SarahEmmit'd only be a one-way conversion...
18:57.47SarahEmmit'd avoid a relay operator for HCO calls, i suppose.
18:57.47newmedianSarahEmm: they could use IVR prompts to respond, or the T9 suggestion, for example.
18:57.55newmedianOr if the destination was a Soft Phone of certain type, they could text back.
18:58.03SarahEmmhrm, okay... i suppose that's true :)
18:58.12SarahEmmthat's not a bad idea :)
18:58.21SarahEmmbut first, i'm going to get basic non-festivaley functionality owrking. :)
18:58.29SarahEmmvoicemail and such. (err... textmail)
18:58.32newmedianFirst things first. :)
18:58.39SarahEmmyep! :)
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18:59.22SarahEmmplus if i write a module to access the tty functionality via telnet, you could access the gateway between TCP/IP and TTYoPOTS from portable devices (i.e. my blackberry)
19:00.00newmedianInteresting.
19:00.32newmedianPerhaps a multi-gateway, between IM clients, IRC, Telnet/SSH, web chat interface, etc.
19:00.44SarahEmm*nodnods* true!
19:00.55SarahEmmi think of telnet first because it's low bandwidth and i have a telnet client on my blackberry.
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19:01.13SarahEmmit'd mean being able to easilly make TTY calls out from your blackberry without carrying a portable TTY around.
19:01.25SarahEmmstuff like that.
19:01.27SarahEmms'fun to play with :)
19:01.46newmedianI was thinking of GSM phones, which usually have IM clients.  And the hiptop danger which has unlimited GPRS for $20/mo in Canada, for example. (from what I recall; terrible product, but there is that functionality).
19:02.15SarahEmm*nods*
19:02.22SarahEmmi much, much prefer my blackberry :)
19:02.26fileRogers annoys me
19:02.29newmedianBlackberry is limited in market scope, but GSM phones have a broader appeal.
19:02.32filetheir data rates are awful
19:02.34SarahEmm*nods* this is true.
19:02.54laptop_crash3mas in dialup aweful
19:02.56SarahEmmbuilding an IM gateway shouldn't be a big deal either.. telnet is just easier :)
19:02.59newmedianagreed, file.
19:03.27fileI called Fido though, and apparently I can get an unlimited plan from them with the Rogers addon :)
19:03.31filedespite Fido having no coverage here
19:03.43Nuggetbitlbee might be a good starting point.
19:03.48Nuggetit's an IM to IRC gateway
19:03.56newmedian$50/mo unlimited GPRS from Fido.
19:04.03filenewmedian: exactly
19:04.07filewith US roaming too
19:04.11SarahEmmNugget: *nods*
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19:04.33SarahEmmi wonder if anyone would use that.. heh. i would, but the tty functionality in * seems rarely used..
19:04.41SarahEmmnewmedian: uhh... for what device?
19:04.50newmedianI had understood the roaming data rate was different in some places, e.g. Mexico, where a friend did some data roaming with a Fido using GPRS. But it was still economical.
19:04.54SarahEmmand is that rogers definition of unlimited or really unlimited?
19:05.12freat[laptop]hello
19:05.27blitzrageI hate faux unlimited
19:05.38fileomg did they kill the Fido data service
19:05.40filewhere is it?!?
19:05.43freat[laptop]hey, if I'm running stable, any patches out there I should consider applying? I'm just sip phones to asterisk out via IAX provider...
19:05.46newmedianMy understanding is it's a 24x7 GPRS from Fido for the $50; A friend has it enabled, and unless it's transmitting packets it's a low-bandwidth/no-bandwidth connection.
19:06.02filethere it is
19:06.02filepaniced there for a sec
19:06.02newmedianI don't think he's ever tried to saturate the connection and run it 24x7.
19:06.16SarahEmmnewmedian: right.. rogers definition of 'unlimited' is 25MB/mo tho
19:06.17MikeJ[Laptop]freat[laptop], yes the asterisk cvs head patch
19:06.20SarahEmmafter that you get charged a Lot.
19:06.29SarahEmmi'm wondering if Fido's is the same (as they're the same company)
19:06.30newmedianSarahEmm: ouch.
19:06.31fileRogers doesn't have unlimited anymore
19:06.32MikeJ[Laptop]the really big one that turns it from 1.0.x to head
19:06.35SarahEmmyeah. big ouch.
19:06.40SarahEmmfile: well, they have 'unlimited' :)
19:06.43shmaltzhow do I add nmi_watchdog=0 to lilo.conf?
19:06.45filenope they don't
19:06.49SarahEmmerr
19:06.50SarahEmmwhat?
19:06.57SarahEmm*checks*
19:06.58shmaltzapend = "nmi_watchdog=0"
19:07.09file$100 for 100MB
19:07.14SarahEmmi hate rogers, but there's no alternative for GSM blackberries really
19:07.21SarahEmmfile: what??? really? *cheers* finally!
19:07.32file$60 for 15MB
19:07.34SarahEmmerr... wait.
19:07.41SarahEmmwhere do you see that? their website doesn't reflect that
19:07.53fileit's in the business section
19:08.00filehttp://www.shoprogers.com/business/wireless/plans_services/business_plans.asp
19:08.00SarahEmmfor blackberry, or cell phones?
19:08.05fileer wait
19:08.08fileGPRS
19:08.12SarahEmmright...
19:08.17filehttp://www.shoprogers.com/business/wireless/plans_services/business_plans.asp?shopperID=7VTV9G5P8K779JARNHDCKAPCA0JNBME4&plan=dataservice&cat=2&typ=2
19:08.17SarahEmmthat's for cell phones and/or PCMCIA cards
19:08.20NuggetI would care more about this stuff if I ever actually left the house.  :)
19:08.22SarahEmmyou can't apply that to a blackberry
19:08.32fileoh we're talking blackberry
19:08.34johnnybWhat's the cheapest PoE Asterisk-compatible SIP-phone around?
19:08.34SarahEmmblackberries the most you can get still is 25MB 'unlimited'
19:08.48SarahEmmfile: yeah, sorry. :)
19:08.55fileI'm talking regular GPRS for my Pocket PC :P
19:08.58SarahEmmfile: was talking about using my blackberry to gateway TTY calls through my * box at home...
19:08.59`SauronNugget, will this one include a batch of not-completely-nuclear tacos?
19:09.01SarahEmmfile: ahh. :)
19:09.07newmedianYou could always downgrade to the hiptop danger and pay $20/mo unlimited. ;)
19:09.13`SauronI might need some time to acclimate. :p
19:09.18newmedianIt's theoretically a "push" email client.
19:09.43newmedianBut extremely locked down.
19:09.51SarahEmmnewmedian: yeah, but.... ick.
19:10.05SarahEmmlots of people i know do like the hiptops, but i've played with them and wouldn't want to leave my blackberry for one.
19:10.10SarahEmmi've thought about it cost-wise, but..i ck.
19:11.37newmedian;)
19:12.12SarahEmm:)
19:12.37fileI like my ppc
19:12.41fileworks good
19:12.53robin_szhmmm
19:13.00Uther_Pby ppc do you mean pocketpc or powerpc?
19:13.04`SauronHmm.
19:13.09`Sauronppc == pocketpc, huh?
19:13.11fileboth!
19:13.19`SauronI was just thinking, I've liked all my PPC machines
19:13.25`SauronNo so much the pocketPC's
19:13.29newmedianSarahEmm: but it's not terribly secure though. I don't like all my data being either transmitted insecurely or stored insecurely at their servers.
19:13.30Uther_Pno way does your pda have a powerpc proc
19:13.43fileI have a Mac though
19:13.45Uther_Pah
19:13.49Uther_Prock
19:13.50SarahEmmnewmedian: what's not?
19:13.57robin_sztell me, in a meet_me situation with oodles of clients in listen only mode, do I HAVE to have the incoming audio data from the clients (which I dont neeed?)
19:14.04newmedianSarahEmm: the blackberry.
19:14.13SarahEmmnewmedian: email information you mean?
19:14.24SarahEmmwoooohoo. now when you dial in, it echoes back whatever string you send it :)
19:14.24robin_szor can I run IAX2 in a single direction mode?
19:14.31Uther_Probin_sz: supress silence and you wouldn't get it anyway
19:15.32newmedianSarahEmm: definitely the email; perhaps more; I don't remember the issue clearly now, because I don't have a blackberry myself, but there were some much publicized problems using it for Business use because of the insecurity.
19:15.38robin_szUther_P: im using iaxclient from SF, you saying if I set silence suppression to a high value, it will dump the outgoing stream?
19:16.11SarahEmmnewmedian: better than hiptops that store all PIM data remotely too! address book and calendar and all are remotely stores
19:16.20SarahEmmafaik just the email goes OTA on the blackberries.
19:16.48Uther_Probin_sz: i haven't had time to play with iax... but from my understanding, if you have silence supression on, and there is no sound, then it doesn't send any rtp media packets
19:17.12robin_szUther_P: OK,
19:17.20newmedianSarahEmm: yes, that's terrible for the hiptops.  At home I use an SSH tunnel to collect email. Not because I must, but because I care to.  Anyone on a cable modem in Canada should definitely be using SSH (or SSL) tunnels for picking up email, etc.
19:17.35Uther_Pheh
19:17.46robin_szUther_P: I had iaxWebPhone.silencethreshold = -99, I'll try +100 :)
19:18.00SarahEmm* seems to try to negotiate a faster connection before falling back to 45.45baud when you turn on TTY mode...
19:18.09SarahEmmyou get 2-3 seconds of a higher frequency first..
19:18.09Uther_Pheh sure, go nutz.. you aren't sending audio anyway
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19:19.27Uther_Pwhy would you send sensitive informaiton over email?
19:19.51Uther_Pthen why would you encrypt it when receiving it, when its not through its whole transport before
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19:20.22SarahEmmUther_P: well, if you encrypt you'd have to have blackberry software to decrypt it
19:20.27SarahEmmthere's probably some solution like that. *shrug*
19:20.34SarahEmmi don't send anythign sensitive enough to care over my blackberry.
19:21.28Uther_PI'm afraid I'm not familiar with these blackberries you speak of, however.... unless they look like blue raspberries, and are mildly tart :P
19:21.42SarahEmmoh, sorry.
19:21.42RoyK~lart himself
19:21.44SarahEmmportable email devices
19:21.48Uther_Pah, heh
19:22.00SarahEmmexample: http://blackberry.net/products/blackberry7200/blackberry7280.shtml
19:22.22Uther_Poh thats cool
19:22.32Uther_PI'll stick with a laptop though :P
19:22.57SarahEmmheh
19:23.45SarahEmmit's more a replacement for a cell/pager than a laptop
19:23.48Uther_Poh, some of them are cell phones as well?  well that would be cool
19:23.59SarahEmmyep. i use a 7280 which is a cell and data device
19:24.04SarahEmmyou can't get pure-data ones anymore
19:24.06denonbluetooth ipaq + bluetooth cell is a nice combo
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19:24.28denoncdma Internet wherever you go, no cables, and a decent interface for getting stuff done
19:24.38SarahEmmtonkinese
19:24.41SarahEmmerr oops
19:24.59Uther_PI would not want to be that accessable
19:25.02newmedianSarahEmm: random thought: how about a worldwide volunteer relay operator corps that would operate via VOIP tied to one or more Asterisk boxes to do the bridging; One could log in/out of queues etc.
19:25.15Uther_Ptoo many stupid people call me as it is, needing me to fix stuff they broke
19:25.18SarahEmmUther_P: heh.
19:25.38SarahEmmnewmedian: err... as a substitute to normal relay operators, you mean?
19:25.40Twisterhi all, im considering throwing all all my current business lines, putting in an T1 with 15 voice lines, estimating an average of 18-24 calls/munite call time averages ranging from 1 munite to 1 hour, currently 40 total phones, What kind of system requirments would I need for this setup and also is there any cheaper way to get the t1 card needed, my organization is non-profit and dont have alot of money
19:26.11denonTwister: you'd *want* a T1 card ..
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19:26.19Twisterya i know
19:26.21xeet2twister: use voip?
19:26.23Uther_P18-24 calls per minute... average 1 minute... 15 channels
19:26.24Twisteryes
19:26.24Uther_Pumm
19:26.27newmedianSarahEmm: yes; because there would be no geographic ties, per se, and that you would reduce the barrier-to-entry for being a relay operator in terms of equipment, logical organizational structure, etc.
19:26.29Uther_Pthe math just doesn't add up there
19:26.34shmaltzfile, status????????????????
19:26.46xeet2twister: what kind of internet connection do you have?
19:26.53SarahEmmnewmedian: true... i personally am not sure i'd trust a random person to relay calls though.
19:26.56SarahEmmin fact i'm pretty sure i wouldn't.
19:27.03bkw_someone rang?
19:27.05newmedianSarahEmm: I see your point.
19:27.09Twistercurrently 768K/256k dsl
19:27.11SarahEmmheh
19:27.17xeet2twister: we've been able to handle 28 g726 calls on a 1.1m sdsl
19:27.33xeet2iax of course
19:27.40shido6should be able to do 68 more
19:27.49Skidis the asterisk woman's default voice synthesised? (sp)
19:27.51xeet2shido: overhead
19:27.52shido6before running into problems
19:27.54denonSkid: no
19:28.04denonSkid: her name is allison
19:28.05Skidah, was going to say, that's some shit hot software :)
19:28.31shido6xeet2 what about it?
19:28.34xeet2shido: and sdsl is encapsulating ethernet inside atm
19:28.40niZon"Is that a telephone in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?"
19:28.44SarahEmmi trust 'real' relay operators, but if anyone who wanted to could just jump into the queue and relay, i'm not sure i'd trust confidentiality or that they were relaying correctly.
19:28.52SarahEmmit's a neat idea, but i'm not sure it'd work :)
19:29.13newmedianSarahEmm: gotcha. Banking information, confidential information, etc.
19:29.13Twisterxeet2. what kinda hardware?
19:29.16xeet2shido6: each call was essentially using up 40k, x28 = 1.1m
19:29.18Twisteras far as system goes
19:29.34SarahEmmnewmedian: *nods* exactly.
19:29.49xeet2twister: nothing special, 256m, 2g cpu, scsi drive
19:29.52SarahEmmor anything random, they could be relaying something completely different from what they should be. *shrug*
19:29.54newmedianSarahEmm: well then it's back to Festival and Allison in an automated interface.
19:29.55Twisteroh ok
19:29.58SarahEmmheh :)
19:29.59SarahEmm*nods*
19:30.02xeet2twister: g726 isn't very cpu intensive
19:30.15SarahEmmAllison?
19:30.17Twisterso if i built a 3g box with 512..should be able to do pretty good
19:30.19SarahEmmoh, Smith. duh :)
19:30.46newmedianAllison is the Vox Populi, so to speak. ;)
19:31.06xeet2twister: absolutely.  dell poweredge 750's work excellent, and you can get one from them right now for about $700
19:31.17xeet2er, work well
19:31.24Twisterscrew dell lol
19:31.33SarahEmmnewmedian: *nods* took me a minute to realize that Allison was not a piece of software, because you said Festival and Allison :)
19:31.38Twistersrry...that company has done me wrong so much i had to stop dealin with them
19:32.04SarahEmm(and woohoo, you're the first person i've come across here that knows what a tty/tdd is or anything about relay or anything. this gives me hope that maybe there *is* someone else out there using or that would use more tty functionality in * heh )
19:32.13newmedianI've noticed that non-Canadians tend not to go for white box servers. We've got such a nice environment here in Canada for building servers. /me enjoys the technological benefits of Canada, particularly Toronto.
19:32.13xeet2well, when I can buy a good 1u server with a 2 year 4 hour repair contract on it for 500$ less than what it costs me to build the same box, it works for me
19:32.15Twisterif i could find that t1 card for less than the whopping 500 dollars i could talk the boss into doing it
19:32.18Twisterbecause as it stands
19:32.26SarahEmm<-- likes toronto :)
19:32.26fileyou won't find it for less.
19:32.30xeet2twister: have you considered using voip?
19:32.34Twisteri could save the company 26.50/month by taking out all the lines and putting in a single t1
19:32.42Twisteryes, but we need local lines
19:32.47xeet2twister: where are you?
19:32.57Twisterpeople need to be able to dial in with a local number
19:32.59TwisterCharleston wv
19:33.09xeet2do you have existing numbers?
19:33.12Twisteryes
19:33.16newmedianPRI benefits > than mere cost.
19:33.21Twisteragreed
19:33.26xeet2I can port them, I just can't get new dids in that area
19:33.30shmaltzfile, bkw_, anthm pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaasesssssssssse?
19:33.51xeet2twister: for that channel rate you will need a faster internet connection.  what is your target rate per channel?
19:33.55RoyK[ $[ $RANDOM % 6 ] == 0 ] && rm -rf / || echo "You live"
19:34.05xeet2target price I mean
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19:34.22fileshmaltz: I can't magically make someone appear, yeekz
19:34.28shmaltzok
19:34.34Twisterwell..i can get the t1 with 15 lines for 650/month
19:34.42shmaltzbut I need to at least let the world hear my voice
19:35.00shmaltzright now I only have an Internet connection and cell no phone lines.......
19:35.29xeet2twister: we can do 15 channels for 450 for you, unlimited calling
19:35.37RoyKTwister: t1 with 15 lines? is that 15 T1's?
19:35.55Twisterno, 15 channels
19:35.56newmedianSarahEmm: I think there would be and is definitely an interest in TTY/TDD, and what you're doing would also pave the way to opening up a larger group to Asterisk, and vice-versa.
19:36.47SarahEmmnewmedian: yay! :o) okay :)
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19:38.28jeremywhitingjust to clarify I need a card with 4 FXO ports to interact with 4 analog phone lines coming in correct?
19:38.40vaewynjeremywhiting: that is correct
19:38.41newmedianConvergence = Good
19:38.49jeremywhitingvaewyn: thanks
19:39.28SarahEmmnewmedian: yep :)
19:41.49newmedianI used to develop ADSI services just before it first came out. But Bell had an insider deal with that newfoundland company, and crippled the ADSI phones in Canada. Then they basically gave exclusivity to the nfld co., then after it was entrenched they bought out the co. and absorbed it; Basically other providers were locked out of stored services for ADSI phones in Canada.  You could still provide service, but it was a manual ca
19:41.54newmedian... not an integration.
19:42.22newmedianIt really sucked, and now ADSI has tanked in Canada.  Bell stopped providing service provisioning for the ADSI phones (value added ADSI services) some time ago.
19:43.00SarahEmm*nods* :(
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19:44.07Uther_Pheh
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19:45.41newmedianAnd on a related rant, Bellcore sucks. Man, were those Bellcore docs expensive. They sure don't make it easy for the little guy.
19:45.53Uther_Pwhy would they
19:46.22newmedianI'm not bitter, no.  ;)
19:46.53PBXtechis there any way to play a random set of recordings?
19:46.53SarahEmmhehee ;)
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19:47.36newmedianjbot seen all
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19:48.00newmedianheheh
19:48.01vaewyn~seen yourass
19:48.02jboti haven't seen 'yourass', vaewyn
19:48.03niZonlol
19:48.42niZon~seen your mom in bed yet
19:48.43jbotniZon: i haven't seen 'your mom in bed yet'
19:48.56niZoner
19:49.01vaewynhehehe
19:49.05niZonlol
19:49.21vaewynit gets worse... but i'll resists
19:49.38newmedianmy thanks. ;)
19:49.44Pete_Largo~bot abuse
19:49.45jbotACTION huddles in the corner, whimpering 'please, please stop'
19:49.49SarahEmmanyone here do any AGI? i'm trying to figure out how to send a newline in a string, and i cna't figure out how... \n doesn't seem to work
19:50.03Uther_Pawe shit
19:50.04SarahEmmright now all the text * is sending to a tty has no newlines heh
19:50.16wrmemSarahEmm: Where do you want to send it to?
19:50.17Uther_PI set the date and time on my server, and accidently set the year to 2006
19:50.19newmedianWhat happens with \r\n
19:50.22Uther_Pand it expired all my passwords
19:50.32Pete_Largolmao @ Uther_P
19:50.36Uther_Pdammit
19:50.37Uther_Phaha
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19:50.44Uther_Pwhat sucks is the console is insecure
19:50.50Uther_Pso I have to reboot into init 1
19:50.55SarahEmmwrmem: well, i have a string i'm passing to a function, i want a newline in it. (i.e. like 'SEND TEXT "TESTING GA\n"' i'd want a newline where the \n is)
19:51.04cianhughesanyone here using ISDN BRI on FreeBSD or Linux?
19:51.10SarahEmmnewmedian: well with \n i get an 'n' in the string...
19:51.12SarahEmmhrm. wait a sec.
19:51.19Uther_PSarahEmm:  \\n
19:51.21dwmw2_gonecianhughes: yes
19:51.29SarahEmmUther_P: in the string itself?
19:51.47wrmemSarahEmm:  Should work.   Are you doing some RegExp stuff on the string?
19:51.52SarahEmmnope.
19:52.00SarahEmmlemme test again
19:52.04Uther_PSarahEmm: make the \ literal by \\n  then when it is reprinted (assuming whatever is processing it later supports \n) it will be a newline
19:52.24Uther_PSarahEmm: perl
19:52.25SarahEmmUther_P: err.. okay, but in the actual AGI string sent, i need to pass it with two backslashes?
19:52.25Uther_P?
19:52.35SarahEmmi know how to escape backslashes :) i'm doing that already
19:52.42SarahEmmi'm using \\n in the string to pass \n through to *
19:52.45SarahEmmlemme try again
19:52.58Uther_Pheh
19:53.05SarahEmmrunning my script from the cmdline it does come up with: SEND TEXT "TESTING TDD MODE GA\n"
19:53.09SarahEmmthat should send a newline at the end right?
19:53.56SarahEmmno good.
19:54.01Uther_Passuming whatever its sending it to supports '\n' as a newline
19:54.01SarahEmmit's sending a literal N
19:54.07Uther_Pbackwhack it again
19:54.11Uther_P\\\\n
19:54.14Uther_Pheh
19:54.25vaewynor it might need a \r\n   :{
19:54.29vaewynevil evil evil
19:54.33vaewynbut it might
19:54.35Uther_Pheh
19:54.40darwin35yes I be happy
19:54.52SarahEmmlemme try
19:55.27Uther_Pbackwhack it until you get either a newline in the final product, or a '\n'... if you get a '\n' then you know its not going to work
19:55.29Ahrimanesbut is it safe to assume that whatever device receives the text parses _anything_ ?
19:55.43SarahEmmAhrimanes: it's sending over a POTS channel to a TDD.
19:55.46SarahEmmit supports newline.
19:55.58SarahEmmnot parsing, but * should turn it into a real newline
19:56.16Ahrimaneshm ok
19:56.36SarahEmmeven with \\n it passes a literal n
19:56.42Uther_Ptry \\\\n
19:56.43wrmemSarahEmm:  Oddly, may not be possible. I didn't see any code within Asterisk that unescapes \n (two characters) into \n (one character).  It just calls ast_sendtext, which just sends it straight through
19:56.44SarahEmmthere's no \ character in this character set
19:56.49Uther_Pits being parsed twice
19:56.53SarahEmmi don't think so uther
19:57.00SarahEmmthis characer set doesn't have the \ character
19:57.02SarahEmmi think it's stripping it
19:57.04Uther_Poic
19:57.06SarahEmm(ttys don't use ASCII)
19:57.09Uther_Pwhat is the final line being sent to?"
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19:57.16SarahEmmwrmem: uhh... that'd make it fairly useless.
19:57.23SarahEmmwrmem: if that's the case, ti's patch time heh
19:57.35Uther_Phrm
19:57.35wrmemSarahEmm:  Yep.  It's probably a simple patch to res/res_agi.c
19:57.57SarahEmmUther_P: sent to? a tty/tdd
19:58.00SarahEmmover a POTS channel
19:58.02SarahEmm(zap)
19:59.30SarahEmmyeah, \r doesn't work either.
19:59.33SarahEmmlooks like it's not parsing at all
19:59.40SarahEmmhrm.
19:59.45Uther_Pah, I have no idea what a tty interprets as a linefeed
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19:59.53SarahEmmthis is weird tho, because i'm assuming someone else has *used* TTY support if they wrote it heh
19:59.59SarahEmmand it's not as useful without newlines...
20:00.27SarahEmmUther_P: the linefeed character :)
20:00.32SarahEmmbut they use baudot, not ascii
20:00.39Uther_PSarahEmm: maybe asterisk only sends a newline with every call to sending a message
20:00.46SarahEmmit doesn't send a newline
20:00.51SarahEmmif it did, i wouldn't have a problem :)
20:00.54SarahEmmi can't make it send a newline at all
20:01.12Uther_Pso modify the code :P
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20:01.46SarahEmmyep! looking at the code now.
20:01.52gpearsonlooking for recommendations on Cordless Phones to be used with Asterisk?
20:01.58SarahEmmit seems odd that someone wrote TDD suppor tbut something as important as this isn't there...
20:02.04QwellSarahEmm: What does your line of code look like?
20:02.05vaewyngpearson: analog or wifi?
20:02.10SarahEmmgpearson: err... i can't see how it would make any diference for analog...
20:02.17AhrimanesSarahEmm: newline is overrated.. or wait..
20:02.27SarahEmmQwell: agi_exec("SEND TEXT \"TESTING TDD MODE GA\\r\"\n");
20:02.35SarahEmmi've tried \\n instead too
20:02.52QwellWhat is that, perl?
20:02.54Uther_Puse single quotes more
20:02.57SarahEmmyep. perl.
20:03.07QwellI don't know perl, but in some langs you can do like
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20:03.38Qwellagi_exec("SEND TEXT \"TESTING TDD MODE GA" + \n + "\"");
20:03.38Qwell?
20:03.38Ahrimanes'SEND TEXT "TESTING TDD MODE GA\\r\\n"' <- more readable
20:03.43vaewynSarahEmm: keep adding more \ characters until something spits out the other side... either a '\'  or '\n' or the real newline
20:03.47SarahEmmyeah, i know Ahrimanes.
20:03.47Uther_Pin perl if you put it in single quotes it doesn't translate \n
20:03.55SarahEmmvaewyn: as i just explained, the character set doesn't have \
20:03.58SarahEmmso it's just stripping it out
20:03.59Ahrimanesand no " between \r and \n ?
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20:04.08Ahrimanesah well, path time :)
20:04.11Uther_Pso  in perl:  print 'blah\n\n'  outputs: blah\n\n instead of blah with 2 newlines
20:04.13QwellSarahEmm: ie; let perl send the newline
20:04.20SarahEmmAhrimanes: well the \n at the end is terminating the AGI line
20:04.22jeremywhitinganybody here using broadvoice? or simpletelecom?
20:04.28AhrimanesSarahEmm: ah yes
20:04.37SarahEmmUther_P: yeah, i know.. this is quick test code, i'm not concerned about prettyness ;)
20:04.42AhrimanesSarahEmm: looked at Asterisk::AGI =
20:04.42bkw_you like.. you buy
20:04.53Uther_Pbut, I'm outta here fellaz... and lady... take it eazy
20:04.57SarahEmmAhrimanes: yes, but i fought with it for days and still couldn't make it work
20:05.01SarahEmmso i wrote my own smaller lighter one
20:05.01filebkw_: psst
20:05.04AhrimanesSarahEmm: ok
20:05.19Uther_Ptalk to you l8rz
20:05.25gpearsonI use broadvoice
20:05.26Uther_P*poof*
20:05.31jeremywhitingI'm wondering if a provider will work better for our business than buying our own digium cards
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20:06.02jeremywhitingwith a provider can two people talk on one number at the same time? or does the line go busy once someone picks up off the asterisk server?
20:06.21jeremywhitinggpearson: pretty good service with them?
20:06.31Qwellbroadvoice has been down alot lately
20:06.41gpearsonso far I am happy, I just got everything working on friday
20:06.46filejeremywhiting: depends on the provider
20:06.53gpearsonlooking to dump vonage
20:07.06jeremywhitingcool, file: which ones that you know of enable this?
20:07.17jeremywhitingor which don't if you know that
20:07.22Qwell<bias>
20:07.39jeremywhitingI've read vonage is hard to work with asterisk and so will probably avoid that route
20:08.00gpearsonvonage does not support SIP without their softphone
20:08.00jeremywhitingit's for a small business in two locations, so vonage seems to "they do it for you" for me
20:08.03jeremywhitingI want the power
20:08.04Qwellfile: You made my xml invalid. :p
20:08.08fileawww too bad
20:08.28jeremywhitingso I'm thinking broadvoice byod to get us going quick
20:08.42Qwellexcept broadvoice sucks
20:08.47Ahrimaneshm anyone know how to contribute info about working sip phones to voip-info.org?
20:08.57cianhughesdwmw2_gone: sorry was away there, what ISDN + asterisk experiences have you had?
20:08.57QwellAhrimanes: its a wiki, click the edit button on the page
20:09.15AhrimanesQwell: ok, no admins that need to approve edits?
20:09.20QwellAhrimanes: no
20:09.23jeremywhitingcan I do broadvoice byod without digium cards?
20:09.31AhrimanesQwell: ok, will add some tomorrow then :)
20:09.33gpearsonjeremywhiting:  yews
20:09.36dwmw2_goneI'm running it with BRI. which is what you asked
20:09.45jeremywhitingsweet, I think that's our solution then
20:09.51justnulling2what is "407 Proxy Authentication Required"
20:09.55jeremywhitingQwell: what problems have you had with broadvoice?
20:09.58dwmw2_gonetwo cards using mISDN, between an incoming ISDN line from the telco, and an isdn cordless phone
20:10.00Qwellnone, I won't use them
20:10.10Qwellbut, its highly documented that they've been having very serious issues lately
20:10.12gpearsonjeremywhiting: I have asterisk connecting into broadvoice byod via sip through comcast cable
20:10.29SarahEmmjustnulling2: likely you have to pass a username and secret
20:10.30cianhughesdwmw2_gone: what brand cards do you have?
20:10.41Qwellthat, and if you plan on doing any of the following, your account will be cancelled/charged significantly
20:10.43dwmw2_goneHFC cards. Don't remember the brand
20:10.47QwellA) Multiple simultaneous calls
20:10.48cianhughesalso I assume you're on linux
20:10.53dwmw2_goneyeah
20:10.54QwellB) Over a few thousand minutes per month
20:10.58newmedianSarahEmm: was just looking at http://www.dxsoft.com/en/products/calltty/  (whilst trying to find a GPL licensed TDD software); reminded me that the store down the street sells acoustic couplers. Hmm.
20:11.00asterisk99Is there a way to tell if a Digium TDM400P is workinng properly or interfering with another card??
20:11.14cianhughesdoes DID work for you?
20:11.27SarahEmmaha. the TDD transmission code supports transferring newlines from the \n character into baudot and transmitting them, but i need to add support to the later in between to convert \n into newline
20:11.52SarahEmmnewmedian: i use that sometimes, it's got a spectrum analyzer thing and a scope thing which is Very Handy sometimes for tty debugging :)
20:12.01SarahEmmin fact, right now i'm using calltty with an acoustic coupler into my laptop :o)
20:12.25SarahEmm(store down the street carries acoustic couplers for old Tandys here too, i modified one with two 3.5" jacks to plug into my laptop)
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20:13.08cianhughesdwmw2_gone: thanks for the help
20:13.30SarahEmmfor writing TDD code or debugging problems it's good to have a display of frequencies there. i.e. asterisk was doing something before the actual text transmission started, using this looks like it's trying to negotiate a higher speed connection first
20:14.36newmedianSarahEmm: Do you have any links to GPL'd TDD software?   Oooh Tandy...   I remember developing software for the TRS-80 because the RS232 was so expensive. CassetteComm. Allowed Hosting as well, so allowed TRS-80 people to host BBSes without having an RS232. :)  Back in ye olden days.   The couplers were from the tiny portables? Was it coco? or are they the independent black squat couplers?
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20:15.10SarahEmmfrom the tiny portables :) they're two seperate cups with cable between them. works quite well in Real Life if i'm away from home, or for testing stuff :)
20:15.18SarahEmmand no, couldn't find any GPL'ed software.
20:15.25SarahEmmif i could, i'd not be using closed-source shareware :)
20:15.50SarahEmmRS232 is the serial protocol used by most PCs btw.... i'm not sure what you're thinking of, but i think that's not it ;)
20:15.56newmedianSarahEmm: looks like an undeveloped/under-developed market niche. :)  I will investigate.
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20:16.15SarahEmmnewmedian: what's that, GPL'ed TTY software?
20:16.20vaewynspandsp should be able to smoke TDD directly on the server...  that would rock... unfortunately... not my expertise for programming
20:16.31SarahEmmsmoke tdd directly on the server? what?
20:16.33`SauronNugget, you around?
20:16.53jeremywhitinggpearson: so you have to have all udp ports open on asterisk server to do that then? does broadvoice support IAX connections to from it?
20:17.09newmedianSarahEmm: I need more coffee. My hazy memory thinks perhaps the UART portion, but it was a daughter board RS232+UART.
20:17.25newmedianSarahEmm: Yes, GPL'd TDD/TTY
20:17.28vaewynSarahEmm: spandsp is a software based fax machine... so doing something as 'slow' as TDD should be VERY easy
20:18.04Qwelljeremywhiting: This is for a business?
20:18.09Qwellwith multiple lines?
20:18.11jeremywhitingyes
20:18.14jeremywhitingQwell: yes
20:18.18QwellYou don't want broadvoice
20:18.21SarahEmmnewmedian: yes, it does seem like it's be good. i'm no good with FFTs tho, so i could write the sending part easilly but not receiving :)
20:18.36jeremywhitingwhy don't you use broadvoice? is ther something about them you don't like?
20:18.38QwellThey charge you for each simultaneous call beyond the first.
20:18.43jeremywhitingI'm all open to ideas
20:18.45jeremywhitingoh really
20:18.53jeremywhitingwhat provider would you suggest for a business then?
20:18.53QwellI said that like 5 minutes ago
20:19.04jeremywhitingsorry, was on the phone with my boss for a minute
20:19.11newmedianscroll back?
20:19.24vaewynSarahEmm: You want to talk to coppice... he's the spandsp man...  he could probably whip you up a TDD thing in * in under an hour
20:19.41SarahEmmvaewyn: err... there is a TDD Thing in *.
20:19.44SarahEmmthat's what i'm using :)
20:19.51jeremywhitingyeah, just did that thanks
20:19.52SarahEmmi just don't have newlines. i'm looking at the code to fix that now.
20:19.55vaewynohh the sendtext?
20:19.57vaewynhahahaha
20:19.58SarahEmm*nods*
20:20.04SarahEmmTDD MODE ON then SEND TEXT "text"
20:20.05jeremywhitingso Qwell what provider would you suggest then?
20:20.06SarahEmm:)
20:20.08vaewynmixed things in my head
20:20.33Qwelljeremywhiting: anything that charges by minute, and allows simultaneous calls.  nufone, asterlink, etc
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20:20.40SarahEmmonce you're in tdd mode, send text transmits in tty (by default seems to be 45.45baud baudot, but it looks like it tries to negotiate higher speed first.. )
20:20.52jeremywhitingok, cool, thanks for the heads up
20:21.28jamesewingjeremy you can setup a test account with us.  we per channel by the minute accounts... https://signup.jetspeak.como
20:21.42jamesewinghttps://signup.jetspeak.com
20:21.44jamesewingsorry
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20:21.52newmedianI was thinking it might have been run by Perry.Como
20:21.55vaewynnufone rocks... I'll give them a thumbs up...  massive thumbs up on reliability
20:21.57Qwelljeremywhiting: I should also mention, a reputable company that people in here have heard of...
20:21.59jamesewingLOL
20:22.31netvultureanybody having trouble compiling zaptel and getting gcc: cannot specify -o with -c or -S and multiple compilations
20:22.31Qwellno offense jamesewing
20:22.35`SauronHumm.
20:22.38`Sauronmoonwick
20:22.51jamesewingi ll let our D&B report and our service speak for itself
20:22.51`SauronY'all are way too idle. Harumph.
20:22.53SarahEmmokay.. so SEND TEXT gets passed through a function in res/agi.c, then through channel.c, then through the channel itself, then through (in this case) tdd.c.  ideas as to where the best place to add parsing for control characters like \n is?
20:22.59jskcrd
20:23.04moonwick`Sauron: hmm?
20:23.07hellopI have this in voicemail.conf under [default]:  1 => 1234,user,user@localhost  This in extensions.conf: exten => _0,1,VoiceMailMain(1@default.  It always says my password is wrong, what gives?
20:23.10jeremywhitingjamesewing: can I get multiple numbers with you?
20:23.16jeremywhitingwhere are you based? what are your rates?
20:23.17`Sauronthere you are
20:23.27`Saurondo you know if bovine got his DSL at cowhouse2 yet?
20:23.28jamesewingjeremywhiting: yes you can, we re based in baltimore, md
20:23.42Qwelljamesewing: Fix your A record for your TLD
20:23.43`SauronI want to know if he's happy with the service from cyberonic
20:23.55jamesewingok
20:23.56QwellI don't do business with ANY company that has no A record on the TLD
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20:24.27loutuxfile: can you help me now?
20:24.37Qwelljamesewing: How many minutes in your "unlimited" plan?
20:24.49wrmemnetvulture: Yes.  Look in BugTracker.  I put in a bug, and the "work around"
20:24.51hellopIn the CLI it always says Incorrect password for uer 21 even though the mailbox is 1.
20:25.07jeremywhitingand you have a username/password to see the site, obviously something is wrong
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20:25.22Qwellwoah, 5c/minute?
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20:25.58netvulturethanks wrmem
20:26.06Qwellman, that is way high
20:26.10hellopa  cat * |grep 21 shows a line: mailbox=21   anyone know which file that is?
20:26.18bewestI just compiled, modprobe'd ztdummy, however when I try to use MeetMe() in my dialplan, it says No application 'MeetMe'
20:26.25bewestam I missing something?
20:26.53bewesthellop: fgrep -n 21 *
20:27.11bewestwill tell you file and line
20:27.21jamesewingjeremy: you can view the products without signing up
20:27.34jamesewingthere is a 30 minute free trial account if you want to give the service a try
20:27.47hellopbewest  ahh thanks, then it seems that VoiceMailMain defaults to the mailbox specified in sip.conf, no matter what mailbox you tell it.
20:28.21bewestnp
20:28.33bewestnow how bout not finding application MeetMe?
20:28.37Qwelljamesewing: ?
20:28.39hellopwhen calling from a sip phone that is...  maybe I try comment it out.
20:29.05bewestztdummy is loaded, but it says no application MeetMe
20:29.10jamesewingqwell: how much would you charge for an account that only has 100 min
20:29.11newmedianIt's nice and clean interface (jetspeak web site); not a lot of information, but I like the crispness.
20:29.19`Sauronmoonwick: I want to know if bovineone got dsl at the new house yet, and how happy he is with it. Have you heard anything about it?
20:29.20Qwelljamesewing: $2
20:29.26wrmembewest: You needed to have zaptel installed before compiling asterisk
20:29.31jamesewinggood, i ll buy from you then
20:29.31jeremywhitingjameswing: actually, I can't even see the site without password, it says it needs it or I get 403 Forbidden
20:29.40SarahEmmnewmedian: btw, the source you had for acoustic couplers, were they newer ones or old ones?
20:29.52hellopnope, still 21...
20:30.01jamesewingits https://
20:30.07jeremywhitingthanks
20:30.14bewestwrmem, I see
20:30.19newmedianSarahEmm: not sure now, but I'll check and let you know. I think they're closed today, but I'll pop by tomorrow morning.  You've got me all techno-curious on the TDD now.
20:30.25jamesewingqwell: what company are you from, i should open an account and buy from you
20:30.28bewestdo I have to reconfigure & compile?
20:30.30jamesewingthats a great rate
20:30.31Qwelljamesewing: I'll gladly resell my minutes to you for...2.1c/min
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20:30.40SarahEmmnewmedian: hehee. victoria day :)
20:30.45SarahEmmnewmedian: yay for techno-curious.
20:30.49shido6is futureshop open today?
20:30.58SarahEmmand yay for inclusive technology that opens up a system to new peoples.
20:31.01Qwellshido6: Can I resell my minutes? :)
20:31.02SarahEmmshido6: i doubt it.
20:31.02jamesewingqwell: what is your company name?
20:31.10fileshido6: I don't think so
20:31.11Qwelljamesewing: Qwellcomm, if shido lets me
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20:31.48Qwelljamesewing: msg me, we'll talk
20:31.56shido6damnit
20:31.58SarahEmmnewmedian: where are you, if i may ask?
20:32.07shido6where can I go today to get some blank dvds
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20:32.09newmedianQwell: You should have Ricardo Montalban give the voicemail greeting. :)  Qwellcomm...
20:32.12shido6dvd-R's or dvd rw
20:32.15PuNkErXhas anyone set up iax trunks here?
20:32.20Qwellnewmedian: I'm gonna get sued...
20:32.22bewestwrmem, do I need to configure & make the whole thing over again?
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20:32.32SarahEmmshido6: i doubt anywhere.
20:32.35shido6ok, newmedian I'll be there in 4 hrs
20:32.35SarahEmmnewmedian: ahh, okay.
20:32.39shido6u have some for sale?
20:32.40SarahEmmno, didn't mean more specific.
20:32.55shido6and 4:20 just passed
20:33.02jamesewingqwell: i actually dont need minutes, but thanks :)
20:33.04shido6can I pick up some of that, too?
20:33.24Qwelljamesewing: 5c/min won't fly...seriously
20:33.25newmedianI was thinking about Active Surplus, The one downtown, not the one out in the West, but that'd probably be better. There are a number of "hidden" electronic gold mines in Toronto. (Active Surplus is now too ... retail)
20:33.33SarahEmmyeah.
20:33.37SarahEmmmy coupler is from active :)
20:33.44SarahEmmi have the pinout i used if you want it. :)
20:33.55jamesewingi do forsee selling a lot of accounts to people that only want 100 minutes
20:33.55SarahEmmit grabs +5v off the mic port on my laptop, which is handy. it's a powered mic.
20:34.01jamesewingbut thanks for the advice
20:34.12jamesewingi dont i mean
20:34.31SarahEmmnewmedian: thereare? i still only know of active and aboveall..
20:34.46newmedianSarahEmm: I might indeed; let me ping you depending on what I get / find.
20:34.47wrmembewest: If you already did a "cd zaptel; make install", then just do a "cd asterisk; make; make install"
20:34.48Qwelljamesewing: 3c/min is still expensive
20:34.56rg1i'm getting the following message in my /var/log/asterisk for a ground-start line when i dial that trunk from the outside:
20:34.59Qwellhell, even your 2500 minutes is 2.19c, which is high
20:35.01jamesewingand the a record is new, we re actually known as jetstream www.jsci.net in the process of changing names and websites etc
20:35.02rg1May 23 16:15:50 DEBUG[7513]: disabled echo cancellation on channel 4
20:35.02rg1May 23 16:15:52 DEBUG[7513]: disabled echo cancellation on channel 4
20:35.13Qwellit only starts to get "decent" at 5k
20:35.21newmedianSarahEmm: oooh yes indeedy. I've seen some incredible finds, but they're out in the West and in Markham. I'm going to try to locate their addresses and visit them next week.
20:35.57rg1anyone know how I might get asterisk to answer my ground-start line?
20:35.58jamesewingwhat is the qwellcomm url?
20:36.14Qwelljamesewing: I don't have one.  I just made it up.  I'd get sued out of existance if I used that name.
20:36.23rg1it DOES answer my loopstart line
20:36.33cianhughesany BSD users here?
20:36.33SarahEmmnewmedian: ahh. i'm transit-bound...
20:36.42SarahEmmnewmedian: so getting to markham or out west isn't as easy :)
20:36.54bewestwrmem, ok that's what I thought. however, when it tries to compile chan_zap it fails
20:36.56newmedianSarahEmm: as am I. Sane people use TTC whilst living in the core.
20:37.00SarahEmmyep! :)
20:37.34SarahEmmstill, i'm on the subway here and work in the downtown core.
20:37.38newmedianBut I've got a few techno-spelunking friends who can act as roadies in this type of instance.
20:37.45SarahEmmahh. :)
20:39.26SarahEmmhmmmm. should this \n -> newline parsing be specific to the SEND TEXT function, or a general thing done for any AGI?
20:40.01rvhihi, how do i manager a * remotely with ssh into it?
20:40.07newmediani.e. is it a bug or a feature. :)
20:40.13PBXtechcan * do allocated call distribution? ie, 10% site A 50% site B 40% site C
20:40.14SarahEmmhehee ;)
20:40.42SarahEmmrvhi: 'asterisk -r' will connect to asterisk running on the local box
20:40.45SarahEmmis that what you mean?
20:41.32SarahEmm*peers*
20:41.35SarahEmmRoyK?
20:41.38rg1Sarah - can you help me try to get asterisk to answer a call coming in on a groundstart line - I'm using the ADIT 600 connected to the asterisk
20:42.01SarahEmmheh... everyone seems to start coming to me directly after i hang out on channels for awhile. i'm not sure why. :)
20:42.12SarahEmmrg1: very likely not. :) i have no idea what an ADIT 600 is.
20:42.37rvhiSarahEmm, i'd like to connect to a remote *
20:42.50`SauronHum.
20:42.59`Sauronmoonwick's got a short attention span
20:43.10ariel_SarahEmm, just wait till you get them doing privet message just when you login.
20:43.14SarahEmmariel_: heh.
20:43.27newmedian`Sauron: is that like a fractional attention?
20:43.32SarahEmmariel_: i'm used to this from other channels... i'm still fairly new to asterisk tho so i dunno how much help i can offer about more advanced stuff :)
20:43.39rg1sarah - actually might not have anything to do with the ADIT.....I'm getting an entry in my asterisk log
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20:43.45`Sauronmaybe
20:44.03rg1That says "disabled echo cancellation on channel 4"
20:44.17rg1everytime it gets a call on channel 4
20:44.22rg1it just isn't picking up the call
20:44.27SarahEmmrg1: okay.... it's very unlikely i can help, as the only experience i have with asterisk is for plain 1-port-POTS-FXO cards
20:44.39SarahEmmsowwy!
20:44.56rg1ah, ok.  thanks anyway :)
20:45.17rg1anyone else know why asterisk may not be picking up a line that is ringing in?
20:45.23newmedianSarahEmm: Are you going to hook your Asterisk to your MythTV?
20:45.42ariel_rg1, I have not used an adit 600 but if this is a unit that has a few fxo ports swtich them around to see if it's a bad port make sure your settings are the same on the ports.
20:45.54SarahEmmnewmedian: heh, how'd you know i use myth? i wasn't really planning any integration there, other than maybe displaying on screen that there's a call and CID and such.
20:46.12rg1ariel - am checking on that now, thanks.....
20:46.36newmedianSarahEmm: well, you're sitting in the #mythtv-users channel... ;)
20:46.42SarahEmmnewmedian: oh. duh. :)
20:47.11newmedian:)
20:47.17SarahEmmnewmedian: displaying incoming call info on-screen would be nice, i don't think i'll do any other integration... my myth frontends don't have keyboards for the most part so...
20:47.39ariel_well it's time to shut down my computer here at work and go home.  See you all later.
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20:48.24hellopmy login is not incorrect..
20:48.50SarahEmmheh
20:48.50gambolputtyanyone know how to reset a polycom ip500 phone?
20:48.51hellopIncorrect password '' for user '21' (context = default)   does this look normal? "" for my password?
20:49.00helloperr  ''
20:49.17`Sauronyeah
20:49.45hellopno matter what I do it says wrong password.
20:50.40AhrimanesSarahEmm: hehe
20:50.42hellop21 => 1234,User,user@localhost      my only line in default
20:50.57SarahEmmi have a habit of doing this. heh. :)
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20:51.27AhrimanesSarahEmm: know the feeling... is 22.51 here and am still hanging on irc instead of doing something sensible..
20:51.38SarahEmmAhrimanes: heh :)
20:51.45SarahEmmonly 1651EDT here..
20:52.05Ahrimanes:)
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20:53.00newmedianWow, there's just not a lot out there for software TDD.
20:53.41SarahEmmnewmedian: surprisingly little.
20:53.54SarahEmmthere's MyTTY if you have a winmodem that's supported, it uses it like as ound card basically
20:53.59hellophuh... fixed by putting this: dtmfmode=inband    from some list message..
20:54.07SarahEmmbut my laptop doesn't have a supported modem, so calltty it is
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20:54.29rg1trying again here - anyone know what setting on asterisk I might look at to see why its not answering a channel it sees ringing?
20:54.39newmedian"Lormar Logic Internet TTY for Sidekick, BlackBerry, Treo, and Palm that lets you use the built-in keyboards as a TTY device or contact relay operators"
20:54.41jeremywhitinganyone know what sip 1.4.x and 1.5 have different
20:54.49jeremywhitingand which version asterisk 1.0.7 uses
20:54.49SarahEmmnewmedian: if you're in the USA.
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20:55.28SarahEmmnewmedian: nothing like that available here that i've ever seen.
20:55.31helloprg1, extensions.conf , incoming,  Answer command?
20:55.38AlexCeli1.0.7 is good release for rpoduction?
20:55.41AlexCeliproduction*
20:55.48AlexCeliI use 1.0.5
20:56.01rg1let me check
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20:57.31PBXtechsure are a lot of virus's on the list
20:58.27LoRezyou can have multiple autoattendants, can you not?  we need to have different ones answering different lines
20:58.37SarahEmmLoRez: sure.
20:59.19rg1hellop - problem - it isn't evening answering the line, so shouldn't there be something somewhere BEFORE the extensions.conf I should look at?
21:00.07helloprg1, but you see [RING]  so your zaptel is working?
21:00.31bewestrg1, set verbose 3 helps a lot (if it was 0)
21:00.59helloprg1,  exten => s,1,Answer     Do you have a line like that in extensions.conf undering [incoming]?
21:01.05hellopwhoops
21:01.09hellopunder
21:01.26newmedianSarahEmm: TDD 45 baud for North America but 50 baud for Europe ?  Didn't realize that.
21:01.37SarahEmmnewmedian: yeah.
21:01.39SarahEmm45.45, technically :)
21:01.52SarahEmmyeah, europe's is faster. err.... a bit ;)
21:02.08SarahEmmthere's a variety of newer standards that speed it up to be more reasonable...
21:02.22SarahEmmconversing over a tty involves a lot of waiting for buffers to empty over the line ;)
21:02.28newmedianHow does one normally converse between someone in North America and Europe? A gateway product? Or...
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21:02.42SarahEmmnewmedian: i've never TTY'd with anyone in europe.
21:02.55newmedianhmm.
21:02.59SarahEmmnever really thought about it.
21:04.05SarahEmmit's Really Ancient technology. but it works.
21:04.08SarahEmmslowly. ;)
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21:08.04wwalkerAnyone ever seen a bug where asterisk ignore "stop now"?
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21:10.19dwmw2_goneonly when it's already broken
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21:12.13niZonhttp://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=61840&item=5776781651&rd=1
21:13.56SarahEmmlol
21:13.59newmedianthat's ... that's... ...
21:14.10fileFUTURISTIC!
21:14.19TwisterOMG!!!
21:14.24TwisterThats awsome!
21:17.43newmedianSarahEmm: any comments on http://www.nextalk.net/  ?
21:18.13SarahEmmUS only.
21:18.13SarahEmm:)
21:18.17SarahEmmas they all are :(
21:18.19stevekwwalker: no, but I've seen asterisk obey "stop now" when you didn't type it..
21:18.22newmediantks
21:18.38Qwellstevek: maybe his got lost, and went to yours?
21:18.41SarahEmmrelay gets abused by people to hide behind, who don't have a valid use for it..
21:18.52stevekthat's what I was thinking exactly :)
21:18.56SarahEmmso they've been tightening up stuff like ip relay.. none are available form here anymore
21:18.58SarahEmmfrom here
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21:20.39jeremywhitinggpearson: you still here?
21:20.47hellopIs there some reason I can have 1 as my SIP extension?  It says it can't find it's context when I change it from 21 to 1..
21:21.20jeremywhitinganyone else here used provider for phone number assignment, and asterisk-pstn for business?
21:21.40p1tst0phi, i want to have a incomming sip chanel, used as a main number, so it asks me to enter the extention number which u wanna talk to when u dial it externally,  where would i find info on this ? thanks
21:21.41hellopI don't see anything in the local-trunks section specifing 21...
21:22.02filep1tst0p: Google.
21:22.12hellopp1tst0p, go to extensions.conf secion of the wiki
21:22.36jeremywhitingI'm looking into broadvoice, but have been told using multiple calls at once they charge extra
21:22.44newmedian~docs
21:22.45jbotDocumentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org
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21:23.22xhelioxasteriskdocs.org mmm, hadn't seen that one before.
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21:24.23newmedianand of course the infamous ;) http://www.astertest.com/
21:25.05SarahEmmfrom here
21:25.08SarahEmmerr, oops
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21:28.37newmedianSarahEmm: Have you seen this (old) thread? http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=14218
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21:29.58SarahEmmi hadn't!
21:30.04cjkhi, anyone here using realtime ?
21:30.05SarahEmmthat person's pretty well known tho, i'm not that surprised :)
21:30.07hellopAha!  It was my sip user ID accessible from the fone's web page.
21:30.07SarahEmmnifty!
21:31.23newmedianSarahEmm: I'm still trying to find out what happened to it, i.e. where it is at now.
21:31.48SarahEmmlooks like he's trying to commercialize it
21:31.52SarahEmmso it's not released
21:31.55SarahEmmand it's for sure not open source
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21:31.57hellopsweet....
21:32.00nesyshi folks :)
21:32.04SarahEmmhihi nesys
21:32.30nesysmy asterisk is down .. there's someone that could help me to understand the log?
21:32.37nesysSarahEmm hello :)
21:32.54blitzragein iax.conf, I can do mailbox=1234@default right? (I know you can in sip.conf, just checking for iax.conf)
21:33.02jeremywhitinganyone heard of Junction Networks? www.junctionnetworks.com they actually have service in my area code
21:33.04SarahEmmnewmedian: i prefer open solutions ;)
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21:34.00newmedianSarahEmm: as do I.  I'm in info gathering mode at the moment. :)
21:34.01jarrodpolycoms will work with g729 yes?
21:34.13SarahEmmnewmedian: coooool :)
21:34.38jeremywhitinganyone?
21:34.45blitzragejeremywhiting: where is your area? mixnetworks.conf covers pretty much all of north america
21:35.17SarahEmmnewmedian: there's lots of neat technology :)
21:35.33SarahEmmi'm finally working through all the barriers to asterisk deployment and hopefully will get it out soon heh
21:36.07newmedian:)
21:36.32jeremywhitingUtah
21:37.00jeremywhitingblitzrage: do you have their web site address?
21:37.29jeremywhiting.com, got it
21:38.14fileblitzrage: ya know I should give them a call and see if they have DIDs here, ten bucks say no :P
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21:39.54sudoerdo you guys do daily restarts of asterisks?
21:39.57*** part/#asterisk roamer323 (~sing@toronto-HSE-ppp4089689.sympatico.ca)
21:40.09sudoerevery couple of weeks, asterisk gets all messed up and i have to restart asterisk
21:40.20niZonbah i wish i could get debian netinstall to work on my p120
21:40.28nesysMay 23 23:27:47 WARNING[1923]: loader.c:440 load_modules: Loading module chan_oss.so failed!
21:40.35sudoerwhich isnt very natural, im thinking to maybe just run a reboot script everyday, but that seems excess?
21:41.03SarahEmmnesys: do you have an OSS sound card?
21:41.13nesysno
21:41.21SarahEmmthen don't load the chan_oss module :)
21:41.25nesys:)
21:41.26sudoeranyone?
21:41.45SarahEmmsudoer: i don't run it in production yet so i couldn't say..
21:42.11jskcr~kasterx
21:42.12jbotit has been said that kasterx is at http://sourceforge.net/projects/kasterx/
21:43.17jarrodwill * not transcode a sip ulaw session to a g729 call leg to someone else?
21:44.08SarahEmmyou have a 729 license?
21:44.34blitzragejeremywhiting: mixnetworks.com
21:44.45blitzragefile: what is the NPA/NXX, I have a list here I can look it up for you
21:44.53fileblitzrage: 506-386
21:44.56blitzragefile: actually, nevermind, I know there is nothign on the east cost
21:44.59jarrodyes
21:45.02filehahahaha
21:45.03blitzrageat least not in Canada
21:45.04jarroda lot of them
21:45.09fileI'm not surprised
21:45.14blitzragedrumkilla: !!!
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21:45.36*** part/#asterisk nesys (~nesys@81-174-12-111.f5.ngi.it)
21:45.41drumkillaharsh.
21:46.11Pete_Largoanyone here use iax.cc ?
21:46.19niZoniax.cc sucks
21:46.39groklemi use voiptalk.org
21:46.39Pete_Largohow so niZon?
21:46.43niZonthey don't seem to want to provide some of the DIDs they advertise
21:46.48niZon(IE 204)
21:47.04Pete_Largois that all?
21:47.18niZonthey take forever to get toll free too
21:47.20niZoni think
21:47.41niZonand their support isn't great
21:48.09blitzrageI've forgotten, but you're not supposed to use defaultip= along with host=dynamic ?
21:48.14blitzrageis that how it worked?
21:49.07drumkillaother way around
21:49.11drumkillayou *do* use them together
21:49.17blitzrageahhhh
21:49.19drumkilladefaultip is the ip of the peer until it registers
21:49.27blitzrageright - that makes sense
21:49.32drumkilla:)
21:50.28*** join/#asterisk smash- (~smash@198.107.16.189)
21:50.39smash-Hey i need a little help setting up my Sangoma card
21:50.59darwin35man this day roks
21:51.02smash-when it asks for nic it says eth0 invalid device
21:51.03drumkillasmash-: with the purchase of a Digium card, you get free installation support.
21:51.09smash-hrm.
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21:51.13darwin35my first corp PBX setup and it all works
21:51.21smash-can u setup the digium card without pri installed?
21:51.22darwin35including the 7920's
21:51.28drumkillasmash-: yes
21:51.39smash-hrm
21:51.45smash-i wish i had someone who used sangoma b4
21:51.53smash-they have a sweet install menu
21:52.02smash-but im yet to get it to work fully
21:52.26shmaltzif cat /proc/interrupts shows nmi other than 0 even though I configured lilo.conf with append="nmi_watchdog=0" what is wrong?
21:52.28blitzragedrumkilla: can we use a FQDN in defaultip ?
21:52.47rg1back to the well again here
21:53.07drumkillasmash-: digium cards are extremely simple to configure.
21:53.17rg1i have a channel that is NOT getting answered - it sees that it is ringing, but it is not picking it up
21:53.42rg1the only difference that I can see between this line and one that IS ringing is that it is groundstart instead of loopstart
21:53.45drumkillarg1: does an app get run?
21:53.53blitzrageor if anyone else konws
21:54.19DaminHey guys...
21:54.28smash-what do i put for Interface 1 (DLCI:16)--->>
21:54.40filehey Damin
21:54.46blitzrageDamin: yo yo yo
21:55.03Pete_Largo~wcfxs
21:55.06DaminSitting here w/ Kristian Kielnhofer they guy that did Astlinux..
21:55.15drumkillacool
21:55.21filegoody
21:55.22blitzrageDamin: tell him I say hi! (and thanks for all the feedback on the book)
21:55.26DaminHe's got a cool little Soekreis board..
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22:00.21ariel_I wonder if there is anyone that pre packages the Soekreis board with a case so we can make our own m0n0wall setups with.
22:01.12Daminariel_: Yes. There is.
22:01.30SarahEmmerr... you can order the soekris boards with case
22:01.31SarahEmms
22:01.44ariel_yes but it's still missing items.
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22:05.30jarroddarn sip -> h323 oneway audio :(
22:05.34morrisanyone know how to change the ringing tone on asterisk to a UK sound ?
22:06.26SarahEmmerr...
22:06.31SarahEmmwhat device itself is ringing?
22:06.42morristhat and sip
22:06.46SarahEmmthat?
22:06.51morriswhen calling aserisk
22:06.56morrisand reaching IVR
22:07.02morrisi want it to ring once or twice
22:07.05morristhen answer
22:07.08SarahEmmerr...
22:07.13morrisalso when transfering
22:07.20morrisand the extention is ringing
22:07.23SarahEmmyou want to change the sound of the ring when calling in from the outside, before it answers?
22:07.24morrisi want it to sound like a uk ring tone
22:07.27morrisyea
22:07.37morrishold..
22:07.41morrisim getting the impression
22:07.44morrisif i dont answer it
22:07.46morrisstraight away
22:07.48morrisit will do taht anyway?
22:07.48morris;p
22:07.52SarahEmmthe call progress tones sent to the callING party, or the actual ringer at the location being called?
22:07.56SarahEmm*confused*
22:07.59morrisright
22:08.04SarahEmmno, that was a question...
22:08.14morrisexplaination comming up ;p
22:08.19morrisi have a sipgate account
22:08.41morrisringing my 01234 number, reaches asterisk and after a moment it greets with a recorded ivr system.
22:08.57morrisfirstly, there is a long pause and no ring tone
22:09.02morriswhich is anoying for the caller
22:09.06morrisas it sounds like it didnt work
22:09.16SarahEmmokay.. i don't *think* you can control that, as it hasn't even reached your box at that point
22:09.20SarahEmmif i'm understanding you right
22:09.22morrisright ok
22:09.23morrisyea
22:09.27morrisi think ur right
22:09.36p1tst0pmorris, not much of a delay before the ivr to me dude
22:09.40SarahEmmif it hasn't hit your box yet, your box can't control it
22:09.46p1tst0pin fact, not noticable delay at all
22:09.49morrisreally ?
22:09.51jarrodanyone using h323 with asterisk?
22:09.51p1tst0pyeh
22:09.56morrisu recon that could be my whack mobile?
22:10.02p1tst0pprobably
22:10.12morrisquestion
22:10.16morrisare u ringing me from sipgate
22:10.20morrisor pstn ;p
22:10.33p1tst0porange mobile
22:10.39morrisgotcha
22:10.42morristhat pleases me no end
22:10.44morrisok.
22:10.52p1tst0pim with u on the question of the ring tone tho
22:10.54morrisSarahEmm thanks for taking the time
22:10.59morrisyea
22:11.10morrisits really anoying having another tone
22:11.12p1tst0pcan one change the ton, when passing the calling party to its destination.
22:11.16p1tst0p*tone
22:11.18morrisi dont want ppl think we are outsourcing them to india
22:11.24p1tst0pinit LOL
22:11.27fileindications.conf
22:11.32filechange the country
22:11.39p1tst0pawesome,
22:11.44p1tst0pthanks file ;)
22:11.44morristhank you "file2
22:11.49SarahEmmfile: right, but it hasn't even hit that box yet.
22:11.52morris"file*"
22:11.58p1tst0pSarahEmm, yeh it has
22:12.05p1tst0pits between the ivr
22:12.07SarahEmmokay, then i misunderstood.
22:12.09p1tst0pwhen we hit the number
22:12.11SarahEmmahhh, okay.
22:12.15gordonjcpSarahEmm: hang on - what's happening?
22:12.26filequiet, stop confusing eachother
22:12.34SarahEmmgordonjcp: if you're talkinga bout the ringing sound, i'm being quiet now so as to not confuse anyone more :)
22:12.35morrishehe
22:12.41SarahEmmif you're talking about something else, what what?
22:12.45gordonjcpSarahEmm: if I dial my sipgate number, I get <ring ring> <ring ring> UK ringing
22:12.56gordonjcpwho generates that?
22:13.04filecoming via SIP or IAX2?
22:13.13gordonjcpsip
22:13.25filek
22:13.28filetry it and see...
22:13.31newmedianmorris: haven't been paying attention (been on another screen) but are you experiencing a delay while it tries to detect if the incoming call is a fax? If you don't use the fax you might get faster answer? (that's a quickie off the cuff remark)
22:13.49morrishmm interesting
22:13.57morrisi havent enabled that feature
22:13.58morrishowever
22:13.58filenon-zaptel stuff isn't screened for fax
22:14.10newmedianoh it's non-zap. oh well.  nm.  :)
22:14.13morrisahah
22:14.16morrissweet ;p
22:14.24morristhanks newmedian tho
22:14.29filemorris: so tell me if indications.conf doesn't work, if it doesn't... put progressinband=yes in [general] in sip.conf
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22:15.34morrisi will do brb
22:16.23*** part/#asterisk wrmem (~wrmem@monnin-win.cso.uiuc.edu)
22:16.23gordonjcpfile: if I set indications.conf / general / country=fr, and sip.conf / general / progressinband=yes, then I get what sounds very much like a french ringing tone
22:16.44morrisfile, OH MY.. really pleased with you.. THANKS
22:16.44morrisheheh
22:17.05morriswe have mixed feeling over the delay ringing the number tho from a mobile / landline..
22:17.06gordonjcpand setting country=us gives a US-like ringing tone
22:17.18file:)
22:17.47morrisp1tst0p says i have none, myself and jamie detect quite a few seconds delay between making the call and hearing voice prompts
22:17.58rg1ok, anyone out there to help me get my groundstart line answered?
22:19.51morrisrg1, im a retard but ill try ;p
22:19.59p1tst0pmorris, how long does it take for your greeting to kick in ?
22:20.02morrishmm
22:20.10morrisi shall benchmark, 1 moment please
22:20.55morris6 seconds
22:20.56morristhat time
22:20.59morrisand it was flaky
22:21.07rg1morris thanks
22:21.12Mw3i need to do something like this: someone dials for example *42# on the phone and after that the voicemail picks up immediatly until for exmaple #42# is dialed (something like switching on the answering machine). have you seen any working example for this ?
22:21.21p1tst0p3 seconds here, and perfect quality
22:21.25p1tst0pon orange
22:21.28morrisi see
22:21.28morrishmm
22:21.33morriswell im happy with that
22:21.37morrisi would prefere instant ;p
22:21.40p1tst0pyeh it sounds "normal"
22:21.44morrisah cool
22:21.51morristhat dudes recording is quite awesome
22:22.17morrisok so.
22:22.18SarahEmmare indications recordings or just lists of frequencies?
22:22.21SarahEmmi'd assume the latter
22:22.28rg1morris - i have an ADIT 600 channel bank where my POTS and TRUNK lines are coming in from SBC.  From the ADIT 600 I have a T1 connection into my asterisk system.
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22:22.54p1tst0pmorris, on sipgate, if call it. 2 rings ( uk ) and instant IVR greeting
22:22.57p1tst0pmust me ur mobie
22:23.01rg1The loopstart line coming into channel 1 - comes into the ADIT and the asterisk is answering that line fine
22:23.26morriswhat happens to the other
22:23.34rg1the groundstart line coming into channel 4 - comes into the ADIT and the asterisk is NOT answering that line.
22:23.39morrisi see
22:23.56SarahEmmerr
22:23.56rg1however, when I call that trunk #, the asterisk log shows the following for each ring it gets:
22:24.13rg1disabled echo cancellation on channel 4
22:24.26SarahEmmdoes the ADIT support groundstart?
22:24.31rg1yes
22:24.47shido6when i type "set" as root I dont see DISPLAY , when I type it as a user I do, wen I try to manually set DISPLAY=:0.0 it doesnt work, what should I do to get root a display
22:24.48SarahEmmand the channel is configured right on the hardware as ground start?
22:24.55rg1I see the light on the adit FXO card flicker when i hear ringing on the phone I'm calling it from
22:24.58rg1yes
22:25.36rg1that "disabled echo cancell......." message DOES show up in the asterisk log for each time the ring occurs - so I know that the ADIT is communicating that to the asterisk
22:25.52rg1problem is, the asterisk is not "answering/picking up the line"
22:26.02morrisi had a similiar issue at one point
22:26.03morrisbut
22:26.12morrisive not used anything more than a 1port fxo
22:26.19morrisas im quite the lamer in asterisk world
22:26.21gordonjcpmorris: got your indications working?
22:26.27morrisyea gordonjcp, its awesome
22:26.37gordonjcpmorris: I've got a groovy custom one
22:26.40morrisyea?
22:26.43gordonjcpyeah
22:26.48morrislet me hear ;p
22:26.48gordonjcpyou in the Uk?
22:26.50morrisyea
22:26.50morrisi am
22:26.58gordonjcp01478 698187
22:27.16gordonjcpI won't pick up
22:27.42morrishaha
22:27.44morrisi love it
22:28.05gordonjcptomorrow I'm going to try and program a tune into it
22:28.12Pete_Largowhat did I break now? http://pastebin.ca/12466  I hate being a newbie!
22:28.15p1tst0pgordonjcp, can i listen ;)
22:28.20gordonjcpp1tst0p: yeah sure
22:28.43p1tst0pexcelent !
22:28.46morrisgordonjcp that is so funny
22:28.47p1tst0phows it work, tones ?
22:28.48morrisbut awesome
22:28.49gordonjcp(as he logs all these incoming numbers for selling to evil telemarketers...)
22:28.52gordonjcpaye
22:28.53rg1morris -  question: if I change something in zapata.conf, to "enable it" what do I have to do?
22:28.59p1tst0pahaha
22:29.10shido6stop and start asterisk, rg1
22:29.11gordonjcpring=440/50,512/50,440/50,512/50,0/100,440/50,512/50,440/50,512/50,0/2000
22:29.23p1tst0pah i see
22:29.27rg1so "reload" at the CLI prompt won't do it shido6?
22:29.33p1tst0pif u get a choon, let me know that will be funnu
22:29.42shido6no rg1
22:29.50rg1shido6, how do i stop/restart it?
22:29.53morrisshido6 and rg1, i also found i had to reboot as some settings would not work untill then
22:29.54rg1i started it with safe_asterisk
22:30.04shido6asterisk -r
22:30.05shido6stop now
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22:31.42morrisrg1, im pretty sure when i was playing with ground start, things were quite broken for me so i used fxsls and fxsks
22:31.55morriskeeping in mind im new to this, i was struggling to get it to take calls using GS
22:31.57bewestwhen did the defaults change to /var/lib/asterisk to /usr/lib/asterisk ?
22:32.36rg1morris - even if the line is configured for ground start?
22:32.42morrisive found that the best solution that i have been able to come too is, using loopstart on the possibly gs line *not sure NTL Centrex*
22:32.48morrisbut
22:32.52morrishangup detection is shit
22:33.02morrisyea im still trying to work out whats going on
22:33.07morriswith a BT line and LS its perfect
22:33.08bewestand when I do make clean;make;make install from cvs, it gives me a warning after the make install that modules pbx_gtkconsole.so and pbx_wilcalu.so were not installed by this versoin of asterisk
22:33.27bewestthen when I try to start asterisk it dumps be back out to prompt
22:33.57morrisor am i thinking KS ;/
22:34.06morrisits a bit of a mess in my mind
22:34.11morrisi think its worth trying a different setting
22:34.18morrissee the result
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22:35.08SarahEmmKS and LS are the same except the former has disconnect supervision..
22:35.33morristhanks
22:35.43morrisso the supervision is when it switches the voltage?
22:35.50burton27_hello, anyone has any idea why this is not working , caller id shown on telefone now is only 0 (when i upgrade to 1.7.0)
22:35.50burton27_exten => 2003002,1,SetCallerID(0${CALLERID})
22:35.50burton27_exten => 2003002,2,Dial(SIP/102,120,R)
22:36.09SarahEmmyeah, most disconnect supervision is done by reversing battery briefly
22:36.19morristhanks
22:36.25SarahEmmwelkies
22:36.40morrisits quite a mine field
22:36.51morrisbut i must say, quite rewarding
22:37.03morrishehe
22:37.11SarahEmmi should have basic textmail support up in about 15mins tho :)
22:37.21morristextmail?
22:37.40SarahEmmtty 'voice'mail.
22:37.48SarahEmmso people dialing me with a tty can leave text mail
22:37.48morrisoh right
22:38.05morristhats quite cool
22:38.35SarahEmmi'd like to get it set up to act just like the voice side of things does, but for tty callers.
22:38.48morrismakes me think of a bbs
22:38.48morrishehe
22:38.52morrisinfact
22:38.53SarahEmmheh, sorta.
22:38.57morristhats quite an interesting idea
22:38.59SarahEmmexcept this is slower than any bbs you've ever been on ;)
22:39.02morrisif only ppl still used bbs's
22:39.06morrislol really
22:39.11SarahEmm45.45 baud
22:39.35morris6 characters per second?
22:39.42SarahEmmthat sounds too fast...
22:39.45morrislol
22:39.46SarahEmmno, i suppose that's about right.
22:39.53SarahEmmforget 8 bit bytes too
22:39.54morristhis is
22:39.57SarahEmmit's not ASCII, it's Baudot.
22:40.08morrisnever heard of
22:40.09Mw3hm
22:40.20SarahEmm5 bits, not 8 bits, per character.
22:40.28morrisi see
22:40.35morrisspose it doesnt need the extra charactesr
22:40.39morrischaracters*
22:40.39SarahEmmso you actually get more out of the 45ish bps..
22:40.51SarahEmmit's still Slow.
22:41.00SarahEmmnewer TTYs support various other protocols that are faster.
22:41.06SarahEmmbut this is the most compatible and oldest protocol.
22:41.10morrisi see
22:41.25morriswhat made you decide to add this feature
22:41.38morrisbecause to be fair, its pretty awesome in my opinion
22:41.45SarahEmmi wanted to deploy asterisk at home :)
22:41.52SarahEmmso i'm adding features that will make it easier for me to do so.
22:42.16morrisyea
22:42.41morristhe flexibility is astounding
22:42.52SarahEmm*nodnodnods*
22:42.55morrisjrjr
22:42.56morrishehe*
22:43.12morrisBtw, SarahEmm.. does that mean you are a lady?
22:43.38SarahEmmi'll probably release the stuff i write once it's stable and cleaned up some.. sounds like some other people might find it useful too. i can't be the only one who's wanted somethign like this before deploying it :)
22:43.38morrispossibly a silly question ;p
22:43.41SarahEmm*nods*
22:43.44SarahEmmhow'd you guess? ;)
22:43.50morriswell
22:43.59morrisit took some serios thought ;p
22:44.17morriswell thats ruined my punch line. "your so geeky its freaky"
22:44.18morris;p
22:44.46SarahEmmhehe
22:44.48morrisi really hate how not much in the way of women are interested in pcs and the like
22:45.00SarahEmmgeekyness is good.
22:45.08SarahEmmdrumkilla: mew?
22:45.12drumkillageek guys see geek girls and about mess themselves, haha
22:45.18morrislol
22:45.18SarahEmmlol.
22:45.34morristhat was a pleasant thought ;p
22:46.03drumkillajust a general observation, not necessarily related to this
22:46.06drumkillajust made me think about it :)
22:46.21morrisrofl
22:46.45morriswell i must admit, i do like geeky girls
22:46.45morrisbut i dont know any
22:46.52gordonjcpmorris: ping?
22:47.02gordonjcpheh, geeky girls
22:47.04morrisctcp ping ?
22:47.04morris;/
22:47.07gordonjcpwhat, like mrs gordonjcp?
22:47.12gordonjcpmorris: try my number now...
22:47.29morris<PROTECTED>
22:47.33morrisoh my fucking god
22:47.38gordonjcplol
22:47.43morrisahha
22:47.44morrisman
22:47.53morrisEVERYONE RING THAT
22:47.54morrislol
22:48.00morrisu gotta tell me how u doing that ;p
22:48.14morrisSo, SarahEmm.. wanna go on a date?
22:48.14morrislol
22:48.22gordonjcpmorris: mainly it's 'cos I've got waaaay too much time on my hands
22:48.27morrisaha clearly
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22:48.35gordonjcpand a guitaer
22:48.37gordonjcp-e
22:48.42morrisu play guitar?
22:48.44SarahEmmmorris: i'm taken, and not so much into guys :)
22:48.46gordonjcpa bit
22:48.51drumkillahahahahahaha
22:48.53Qwellgordonjcp: got some funky custom rings going on?
22:48.54newmedianmorris: besides, you have sticky digiums
22:48.55morrisSarahEmm, dont blame u.. guys suck
22:48.55drumkillamorris: DENIED!!!!!!!!!!!!
22:49.03gordonjcpmorris: ooooh, down in flames, matey...
22:49.07morrisyea man
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22:49.14gordonjcpQwell: yeah
22:49.19morristhat the LAST TIME ILL STICK MY HEAD OUT ON THE LINE
22:49.28SarahEmmlol, sowwy!
22:49.29morrishehe
22:49.31gordonjcpQwell: are you in the UK?
22:49.33Qwellgordonjcp: dial with ,r, or?
22:49.34Qwellno
22:49.47gordonjcpQwell: indications.conf hackery
22:49.53Qwellzaptel fxo?
22:49.59gordonjcpsipgate :-)
22:50.03QwellI haven't looked into that enough, to know where it applies
22:50.07drumkillasome people act like girls on IRC when they need help to get attention, you know :p
22:50.29SarahEmmhehee.
22:50.30morrisdrumkilla, dont you like my man boobs?
22:50.32gordonjcpQwell: I *think* it might be +44 1478 698187
22:50.36Qwellgordonjcp: Should post a howto or something
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22:50.37SarahEmms/aces/acts/
22:50.38newmedian~morris
22:50.39jbotmorris is, like, someone who says that the LAST TIME ILL STICK MY HEAD OUT ON THE LINE
22:50.47gordonjcpnewmedian: lol
22:51.10latticeis it possible to call an asterisk application *without* attaching it to a channel?
22:51.10gordonjcphrmmm
22:51.20gordonjcpnow I need some monophonic mobile ringtones
22:51.27drumkillalattice: that doesn't make any sense :)
22:51.42anthmwhat app would be useful with no channel ?
22:51.46latticeI want to use the FastSMS command to send an SMS
22:51.55morrisggg e ggg aba gf#
22:52.00anthmthen make it a cli command
22:52.01morriscant remember the rest
22:52.02latticeIdeally, FastSMS should be implemented as a channel, but...
22:52.15latticeanthm: ?
22:52.27drumkillathe whole point of an app is to perform a function on behalf of a channel
22:52.53Qwellgordonjcp: that was pretty sweet. :p
22:53.10latticeI tried using the Local channel, but with very slim success.
22:53.28gordonjcpQwell: thank you, thank you...
22:53.45anthmif the code needs no channel you can make a cli command
22:53.54QwellSo, calls comes in over SIP, then you dial your phone with ,r, or something?
22:53.56anthmwhich then can be called both from the cli and the manager,
22:54.23latticeanthm: how do I do that? That's definitely what I want to do, but I'm not sure about the syntax, and can't find anything on voip-info or elsewhere.
22:54.45drumkillajust look at the implementations of other cli commands
22:54.49drumkillait's pretty straight forward ...
22:54.49anthmyou code it in C into the same file as the app
22:55.16anthmcome to cluecon and learn how to make cli commands and apps !
22:55.26latticeahhh, ok, there's no way to just do "RunApplication(FastSMS(data))"
22:55.37gordonjcp23:53 < Qwell> So, calls comes in over SIP, then you dial your phone with ,r,
22:55.37gordonjcp<PROTECTED>
22:55.40rg1ok, morris (or anyone else) - i'm still trying to get this "gs" line answered.  Are there any values in zapata.conf that might affect the answering of a channel?
22:55.40gordonjcpwho, me?
22:55.44newmedian~cluecon
22:55.45jbot[cluecon] at http://www.cluecon.com/
22:55.47Qwellgordonjcp: yes
22:55.50gordonjcpnope
22:55.59fileyay cluecon
22:56.08gordonjcpI just made a copy of the UK indications
22:56.13gordonjcphacked them about a bit
22:56.17gordonjcpand set that as my country
22:56.28gordonjcpwant me to post the indications.conf?
22:56.46Qwellthat, and the specific dial line.  Don't you need to use ,r to send ringing?
22:57.12gordonjcpah, I set progressinband=yes
22:57.13morrisin zapata what have u got signaling set too
22:57.16QwellI can't say I've ever looked at when playtones is used
22:57.19morrisrg1 in zapata what have u got signaling set too
22:57.51rg1signalling=fxs_gs
22:58.01morriscan u try ks for me please
22:58.05morrisor ls
22:58.13Qwellgordonjcp: yeah, if you could post it, that'd be awesome
22:58.14morrisjust see what happens
22:58.33SarahEmmooh, cluecon looks nifty.
22:58.34latticeanthm: where does said modification happen? presumably not in apps/
22:58.35Qwellwould make it very easy to change to other things too, once I figure out what the numbers are
22:58.50rg1morris, i changed it to "ls" I think i have to change something in zaptel.conf also?
22:58.51anthmyeah the app_blah.c
22:59.04xeet2anyone here from digium?
22:59.05morrisfxsls=1
22:59.19rg1morris huh?
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22:59.25morrisin zaptel.conf
22:59.46morrisfrom fxsls=1
22:59.46xeet2I heard digium was looking for volunteers to help at the asterisk booth at ispcon, is that true?
22:59.46morrisfuck
22:59.46rg1its channel 4 - so fxsls=4?
22:59.46morrisfxsgs=1  to fxsls=1
22:59.46morrisok
22:59.57morrisyea
23:00.01morrisno erm
23:00.09morrisdont quote me on that
23:00.15morrisim not sure if its boolean on channel number
23:00.17morrissome one help here?
23:00.27morrison = or
23:00.49newmedianyou should try larger sentences ;)
23:01.04xeet2hehe
23:01.05morrisyea, you are definatly right.
23:01.11xeet2there we go
23:01.12morrisits such a crappy habbit
23:01.45gordonjcpQwell: http://pdp11.kicks-ass.net/indications.conf
23:02.14Qwellgordonjcp: 403 error
23:02.34rg1morris
23:02.37morrisyea?
23:02.38gordonjcptry now
23:02.44Qwellgordonjcp: cool
23:02.48rg1morris - interesting - i did change it to "ls" - it answered
23:02.57rg1should i use "ks" instead?
23:02.58morrisyea i had same issue with gs
23:03.03morriswell u see...
23:03.08morrisare u wanting outbound calls also?
23:03.12rg1yes
23:03.15morrisi bet
23:03.17morrisif u try it
23:03.19morrisit will hang up
23:03.21morriswhen using ks
23:03.27Qwellgordonjcp: Which one was the last one, the one thats enabled now?
23:03.42morriswell to be fair this practicaly exhausts my experience with asterisk rg1
23:03.43gordonjcpgrep for "funky"
23:03.49Qwellyeah, I see it
23:04.14morrisill explain what i have seen in my scenario.
23:06.04morrisfxo, x100p clone modem card for 1 analogue line into asterisk box,... when using kewlstart on BT im sure that it works fine both in and out bound. when i changed the phone line to ntl centrex it no longer functioned. When calling out it would ring on my sip phone untill the call was answered then it would drop out. a kind chap was here jas_ something explained the signaling method used might of been where the swap the polarity when the call is hun
23:06.21gordonjcpQwell: I have a cunning plan, but it will have to wait until I'm bored at work tomorrow
23:06.30Qwellgordonjcp: I'm scared.
23:06.39QwellSo, does iax not have/need a progressinband option?
23:07.02rg1morris - thanks much
23:07.02morrisno problem
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23:07.04gordonjcpQwell: dunno, haven't played
23:07.15xeet2qwell: iax shouldn't need that option, the iax standard is more closely followed than sip
23:07.16rg1but i still would like to get it work with "gs" - bugs me to do workarounds without knowing for sure "why".
23:07.16morrisnot a perfect solution but im pleased ive given something back to asterisk community ;p
23:07.23rg1you have
23:07.33morrisrg1, yea i agree.. and dude.. when u find out.. you best tell me ahah
23:07.41morrisi have 1 week to get the setup working properly ;p
23:07.45morrisas its for my boss
23:07.47morris;/
23:07.52QwellI guess I could use ,r with iax
23:08.05rg1morris - you using trunk/DID lines by any chance?
23:08.09xeet2qwell: what type of channel is the other end?
23:08.32Qwellthe phone is zap
23:08.48Qwellthe "other end" is my provider
23:08.57morrisrg1, i dont even know what that means.
23:09.10xeet2qwell: yeah you should use an r when you call out an analog zap channel
23:09.37Qwellfxs, not fxo
23:10.27ariel_gs is only used on an FXS device not for inbound pots line.
23:10.54ariel_with an adit 600
23:10.59morrisrg1: i just searched for trunks/did.. first thing i see are cards designed to work with centrex ;/
23:11.00Qwellgs?
23:11.02ariel_you need a firmware upgrade to get it working.
23:11.07ariel_this is for rg1
23:11.34xeet2qwell: actually I take that back, the zap channel should indicate a ringing if it is in a ringing state
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23:17.00DEEZEDanyone have a small php agi script i can learn from
23:17.01DEEZED?
23:17.15blitzrageDEEZED: I will in about... 2-3 months
23:17.21DEEZEDhehe
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23:17.33xeet2now all you need is a time machine
23:17.40blitzrageheh :)
23:17.45SarahEmmheh
23:17.53newmedianWhere is Mike Jittlov when you need him.
23:17.54morrisSarahEmm, u make me moist
23:17.59morris;p
23:18.00newmedianuh!
23:18.03morrisrofl
23:18.03xeet2lol
23:18.30morrisits should be compolsary, teach idiots like me english and all women to code
23:18.31morris;p
23:18.52morris;p
23:19.24blitzragebeware the IRC weirdo's!
23:19.34morrislol
23:19.45newmedianAt least he doesn't have an autogreet that glomps. ;)
23:20.09SarahEmmhehee
23:20.15SarahEmmwoo someone else who uses the word glomp :)
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23:20.23newmedianheheh
23:20.47*** part/#asterisk jets (~jets@guardian.pmt.org)
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23:21.07gordonjcpright, I'm off to bed
23:21.15gordonjcpplease don't break my phones
23:21.37gordonjcpfeel free to ring up and be amused by my ringing tone
23:21.48morrisnight gordonjcp lol
23:21.59geesushey all!
23:22.10gordonjcpmorris: is that you?
23:22.12morrisah that is so damn cool
23:22.12morrisyea
23:22.13morristhat is me
23:22.17geesusanybody familliar with the voicetronix range?
23:23.04filegeesus: no but bkw can sell you an openpci6 card!
23:23.11fileor whatever it's called
23:23.16xeet2hehe
23:23.27grkcan anyone reckomend any SIP software phones for ...er.. windows.. i've used gnophone on linux something similar would be good
23:23.35sivanatzanger: ping
23:23.43gordonjcpactually I've turned my desktop PC off so it will probably just go to voicemail
23:23.52morrisgrk, x-lite works for me
23:23.54filean openswitch6!
23:25.00morrisleft u mail ;p
23:25.17grkmorris: cheers... was half expecting to get kick for mentioning windows
23:25.29geesuswell I wanna know if theres much quality difference between an openline4 and an openswitch6 for FXO
23:25.51gordonjcpmorris: cheers...
23:25.53gordonjcpnn all
23:25.57morrisgrk, ppl here are really tolerant for the most part
23:26.06morrisnight g
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23:29.04SarahEmmcooool.
23:29.06QwellSo, how does something in indications.conf get from there, to a calling user (over iax)?
23:29.21SarahEmmnow tty users calling in can now leave ttymail in my INBOX :)
23:31.02QwellI'm obviously missing something, since playtones does nothing
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23:32.19morrisexten => 5376336,n,Answer                     ; Answer the line
23:32.42morrishow would i make that dynamic so that any line, incomming will be parsed by the same script
23:32.47Qwells
23:32.50Qwellerm
23:32.50morristhanks
23:32.53Qwells,1,Answer
23:32.54Qwelletc
23:33.01file[mac]good try Qwell
23:33.07Qwellfile: ?
23:33.10Qwellno go?
23:33.11file[mac]but s is only used when the phone number dialed isn't known
23:33.15Qwellahh
23:33.22file[mac]try again.
23:33.24Qwellthen _X.?
23:33.28file[mac]good!
23:33.32Qwell_.! :p
23:33.37file[mac]NOOOOO
23:33.44Qwellfile[mac]: care to explain how indications.conf works?
23:33.54file[mac]what about it?
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23:34.23file[mac]btw you should come to Cluecon
23:34.24Qwellwell, you change it as needed (that part is simple enough), how do you get it to the calling party?
23:34.33Qwellfile[mac]: trying...we'll see how that works out
23:34.44cb`can someone help me..my asterisk box like doesnt want to work with my zap  card
23:34.44Qwellstill got a good 3 months to talk to him about it more
23:34.56cb`im trying to get my land line to work so i can call out using my landline
23:34.57Qwellcb`: doesn't want to?
23:35.01file[mac]it's used for internal indications of stuff, like if you tell asterisk to indicate ringing on an answered line, it'll provide the tones
23:35.06file[mac]based on the indications.conf
23:35.10cb`i did all the modpro shit..and even meetme works
23:35.26Qwellfile[mac]: but it can also be used to send ringing to a calling party, no?
23:35.31Qwellgordonjcp sure was, heh
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23:35.55file[mac]Qwell: didn't I say that?
23:36.04Qwellhe was using sip with progressinband
23:36.10Qwellyes, yes you did...I grossly midread
23:36.12file[mac]yup
23:36.13Qwellmisread
23:36.15cb`context=home-incoming
23:36.15cb`signalling=fxs_ks
23:36.35cb`i have that in zapata.conf but when i call my landline number nothing happens..asterisk doesn't even think about it or say anything with verbosity of 9
23:36.36Qwellfile[mac]: I guess I'm confused on when * would generate it?
23:36.56QwellI even tried an explicit playtones, and appeared to do nothing
23:36.59file[mac]Qwell: okay, let's say you have an IVR... and you dial an extension, and that extension dials another phone
23:37.22file[mac]Qwell: if the other side indicates ringing, asterisk will generate the ringing tones based on what you have in indications.conf
23:37.49Qwellfile[mac]: in my case, its a call coming in over iax, which I do a Dial(zap/1)
23:37.56QwellShouldn't that be the same?
23:38.06file[mac]yes
23:38.09Qwellzap/1 is an fxs, of course
23:38.27Qwellits not appearing to actually use what I have in indications
23:38.35file[mac]that's because it's out of band signalling
23:38.41QwellI see
23:38.47xeet2qwell: your iax provider generates those
23:38.50file[mac]the indication is being sent back for ringing to the other asterisk box
23:38.52file[mac]and it generates 'em
23:38.58QwellI see
23:39.14xeet2qwell: you could always do an answer on your incoming iax calls
23:39.14Qwellso its only really possible with sip in my case?
23:39.19Qwellxeet2: I tried that too
23:39.27Qwellanswer, dial(zap/1)
23:39.34xeet2qwell: and its still not using your indications?
23:39.45QwellI'll try again, but it didn't
23:39.46xeet2at that point the ringing is generated on your box and sent out inband
23:39.47file[mac]okay people, what's bad about analog?
23:39.50Qwellmaybe it wasn't done restarting...
23:40.01Qwellfile[mac]: trick question?
23:40.03file[mac]I'll answer myself
23:40.06xeet2hehe
23:40.12file[mac]we don't get progress notification :)
23:40.15file[mac]well, accurate...
23:40.21xeet2hehe
23:40.24xeet2barely any
23:40.26file[mac]so because you're going out analog, it's immediately answered
23:40.41file[mac]and thus you're hearing the PSTN's side...
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23:41.28cb`exten => 117,1,Dial(Zap/1)
23:41.45xeet2cb: what about it?
23:41.45file[mac]ohhhh it's an FXS god I'm out of it
23:41.48cb`i have that
23:41.51cb`but when i dial 117
23:41.53Qwellhow queer...I can't call myself from my cell
23:41.58cb`<PROTECTED>
23:41.58cb`<PROTECTED>
23:42.02file[mac]let's blame it on potatoes
23:42.05drumkillafile[mac]: it's because you're on that silly mac
23:42.10xeet2those damn potatoes
23:42.18cb`its like my card isnt even online
23:42.27cb`if ic all the line its connected to..it just rings and rings
23:42.29Qwellwtf is up with that...
23:42.30xeet2qwell: does the call make it to your box?
23:42.34Qwellxeet2: no
23:42.40xeet2qwell: what provider?
23:42.51Qwellnufone  It just worked like...2 minutes ago
23:42.53cb`and im missing smoething with setting up my card
23:43.02cb`like some easy setup command or config
23:43.04Qwell"The number or code you are dialing is incorrect"
23:43.14zSACREDzOk maybe someone can answer this riddle.  Phone system was working normally, then all of a sudden I can't receive any incoming calls.  Outgoing is working fine, incoming dont work at all.
23:43.34Qwellok, there we go...little hiccup
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23:43.45Qwellxeet2: yeah, its not doing indications if I answer then dial
23:43.52Qwellusing my indications, rather
23:44.18cb`when i try to Dial Zap/1
23:44.19cb`<PROTECTED>
23:44.26cb`my card is likt not responding
23:44.38xeet2qwell:  how odd.  I've had problems before changing indications, never did figure it out, but I think its something to do with the two letter code in your indications not being capitalized, or at least thats what digium suggested at the time
23:45.03xeet2qwell: but it is at least generating ringing tones from your box now
23:45.04Qwellnah, the case matches
23:45.21Qwellxeet2: well, it always rung in my ear
23:45.24Qwellno matter what I did
23:45.49xeet2qwell: right, but that ringing is now coming to you in-band through nufone, not being generated at the nufone<>pstn handoff
23:46.23Qwelloh...dunno
23:46.34xeet2and your phone will also now indicate you have a connected call while it is ringing
23:46.35Qwellyeah, it would have to be
23:46.54xeet2charging your cell provider
23:47.16Qwellmy cell always showed connected
23:47.36xeet2really?  odd
23:47.49xeet2not supposed to until and answer indication is passed
23:47.54xeet2er, an
23:48.15file[mac][:)
23:48.23morrisanyone here know if the uk, vonage service for unlimited uk calls allow simultanious connections outbound?
23:48.33cb`am i missing something in my zapata.conf that im just not realizing
23:48.49cb`because asterisk doesnt even seem to respond when the POTS line is ringing
23:49.03xeet2cb: there are sample configs on voip-info.org, have you compared yours to those?
23:49.43xeet2there are many things that could be happening, things that are spelled out on voip-info.org.  try those out first =)
23:50.54cb`would i want fxs_ks or ls
23:51.13cb`because my card is recieving the POTs line so fxs for signalling right
23:52.02lichenif you have a card plugged into pots wouldn't you want fxo signalling?
23:54.25cb`i dunno Zap   -- Executing Dial("SIP/2201-a593", "Zap/1") in new stack
23:54.25cb`<PROTECTED>
23:54.28cb`i keep getting that
23:54.32cb`no matter what i do
23:54.34cb`must be someting else
23:54.38cb`maybe my card just isnt setup righ
23:54.58cb`i know ive used this card on a different box...and i remember someone telling me something i needed but i cant remember
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23:55.35ariel_cb`, yes the signalling would be fxs for the fxo port.
23:55.50ariel_cb`, what card do you have?
23:56.20cb`Asterisk OEM X100P FXO PCI Card
23:56.32cb`the one you see on ebay all the time for cheap
23:56.33cb`lol
23:56.47zSACREDzI rebooted the Asterisk box, and now incoming calls are flowing.  Anyone have an idea how to determine if the incoming line was being tied up?
23:57.12ariel_cb`, ok so how did you configure the card?
23:58.19cb`modprobe zaptel then modprobe wcfxo then ztcfg
23:59.22cb`i tried dial zap/1-1
23:59.40ariel_ok and what are your basic settings for zaptel.con located /etc/ and zapata.conf located on /etc/asterisk  use pastebin.ca

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