irclog2html for #asterisk on 20041017

`00:00.24`	`cypromis`	`morn mr. farfon`
`00:00.31`	`wasim`	`morn cypromis`
`00:00.46`	`bkw_`	`There are certain similarities between the bearer service of the SS7 and that of the X.25 network described in Part F1 - X.25. Both networks are packet-switched and have a three-layer protocol structure, which essentially corresponds to open systems interconnection (OSI) layers 1-3.`
`00:00.54`	`WilliamK`	`I'd be almost tempted to pay someone to do it if we could get around the DSP problem`
`00:01.21`	`bkw_`	`The SS7 network normally uses 64 kbit/s links in the transport network. Since traffic-carrying networks require more and more processor communication, faster signalling links may be necessary in the future. Even so, the SS7 network will continue to be a very thin network compared with the PSTN/ISDN and PLMN.`
`00:02.23`	`Atacomm`	`william: what dsp problem?`
`00:02.32`	`bkw_`	`we might get ss7 soon`
`00:02.36`	`WilliamK`	`Atacomm, takes horsepower for transcoding`
`00:02.41`	`WilliamK`	`some serious horsepower`
`00:02.43`	`twisted`	`yeah... and monkeys might fliy out of my ass`
`00:02.46`	`twisted`	`fly, even.`
`00:03.00`	`cypromis`	`certain similarities`
`00:03.07`	`cypromis`	`the both are based on bits ?`
`00:03.08`	`Atacomm`	`william: like i said, what problem? :)`
`00:03.09`	`cypromis`	`:P`
`00:03.25`	`WilliamK`	`Atacomm, SPEED =)`
`00:03.28`	`bkw_`	`cypromis maybe that was what i was told... but really you have larger ss7 links than 64k?`
`00:03.40`	`cypromis`	`no`
`00:03.42`	`Atacomm`	`william: I can do 240 channels on a single chip... wheres the problem?`
`00:03.45`	`cypromis`	`the sin galling itself not`
`00:03.51`	`cypromis`	`but the whole pipe is much much larger`
`00:03.56`	`cypromis`	`I mean in PRI`
`00:04.12`	`AgiNamu`	`where does asterisk do a coredump?`
`00:04.12`	`WilliamK`	`Atacomm, ever try and do transcoding for 672 calls on a PC yet?`
`00:04.15`	`cypromis`	`if u use grouped d-channel you can also do a whole E3 with one d-channel`
`00:04.16`	`AgiNamu`	`nevermind. found it`
`00:04.17`	`WilliamK`	`without dropping the calls`
`00:04.22`	`WilliamK`	`or degradation`
`00:04.35`	`Atacomm`	`william: like i said, i can do 240 channels on a single chip..... who said transcoding on a cpu?`
`00:04.38`	`cypromis`	`but that does not say that a pri is 64kbps`
`00:04.55`	`bkw_`	`cypromis I know that`
`00:05.12`	`bkw_`	`but a full DS3 on 1 D channel is like insane anyway`
`00:06.01`	`cypromis`	`yeah but a full OC48 with one ss7 connect`
`00:06.02`	`cypromis`	`is ok`
`00:06.15`	`Atacomm`	`hehe, bkw: i'll keep that in mind`
`00:06.27`	`*** topic/#asterisk by twisted -> Asterisk, The Open Source PBX \|\| http://tinyurl.com/7y8dv`
`00:06.36`	`bkw_`	`usually on a DS3 you have TWO D channels 1 primary and 1 backup`
`00:06.39`	`bkw_`	`or`
`00:07.17`	`cypromis`	`on an e1 you can have that as well`
`00:07.26`	`cypromis`	`that is what chan 0 is intded for`
`00:07.30`	`cypromis`	`but novoy uses it`
`00:07.35`	`cypromis`	`nobody that is`
`00:07.42`	`WilliamK`	`I'd love to have a 3,000.00 PSTN to IP Gateway`
`00:08.07`	`bkw_`	`672 channels on 1 box can be done if echocan is in hardware`
`00:08.09`	`bkw_`	`and its all ulaw`
`00:08.22`	`cypromis`	`I;d be happy to just use it to switch tdm`
`00:08.22`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`00:08.31`	`Atacomm`	`hehehe.....i can do that on a celeron with both enabled soon :)`
`00:08.38`	`*** join/#asterisk Dalbjerg (~dalbjerg@2001:1448:80:92:8da6:a23b:5a60:2a68)`
`00:08.40`	`bkw_`	`cypromis thats the ticket.. offload codec processing to other boxes`
`00:08.44`	`cypromis`	`and spread the codec shit amon a nice blade behind it`
`00:08.44`	`WilliamK`	`ulaw is what I'd be running, no transcoding on the gateways...just the client servers`
`00:08.45`	`WilliamK`	`=)`
`00:08.55`	`cypromis`	`bkw_: that is how I do it now`
`00:09.05`	`bkw_`	`we do too`
`00:09.19`	`AgiNamu`	`What do I need to know about threading when writing an asterisk app?`
`00:09.20`	`bkw_`	`slinear between boxen is better`
`00:09.25`	`bkw_`	`you save a translation path`
`00:09.29`	`cypromis`	`where ?`
`00:09.29`	`bkw_`	`well two per call`
`00:09.36`	`cypromis`	`bkw_: everything here is alaw`
`00:09.38`	`cypromis`	`so`
`00:09.43`	`cypromis`	`slinear means translation`
`00:10.02`	`bkw_`	`cypromis ask anthm he can tell you all about it`
`00:10.06`	`cypromis`	`I never prefer single boxens for anything`
`00:10.17`	`bkw_`	`rackspace isn't cheap`
`00:10.28`	`bkw_`	`7U per DS3 is alot of boxen`
`00:10.30`	`cypromis`	`no ?`
`00:10.48`	`WilliamK`	`bkw, you got that one right`
`00:10.50`	`cypromis`	`wrong calc`
`00:10.57`	`WilliamK`	`even if it were cheap, just too many boxes`
`00:11.02`	`cypromis`	`6U will handle more than 1k voip channels`
`00:11.09`	`WilliamK`	`I'd rather have 1 primary DS3 box and one secondary`
`00:11.10`	`cypromis`	`and you just add the DS3 boxes to it`
`00:11.12`	`bkw_`	`ya if you wanna push it`
`00:11.27`	`cypromis`	`6U ith a quad opteron blade server`
`00:11.28`	`WilliamK`	`cleaner too`
`00:11.34`	`bkw_`	`ack opteron`
`00:11.50`	`cypromis`	`bkw_: we have nearly only opterons now`
`00:12.05`	`bkw_`	`I wanna build a cPCI asterisk boxen`
`00:12.31`	`bkw_`	`me either`
`00:12.37`	`cypromis`	`hmmm maybe as doorstoppers ?`
`00:12.44`	`WilliamK`	`see cards aren't the problem, getting someone who can really really code is`
`00:12.48`	`AgiNamu`	`I'm getting a segfault when I try to init the runtime.... and it was just working :(`
`00:12.53`	`bkw_`	`pay digium to code it`
`00:12.54`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`00:13.30`	`WilliamK`	`bkw, that's a possibility, also thinking about having a group in china code it that works for a telco over there`
`00:13.51`	`cypromis`	`hmm`
`00:14.00`	`WilliamK`	`it can't be that difficult since the linux drivers are already there`
`00:14.03`	`cypromis`	`I stopped doig any coding in far east, nothing but trouble`
`00:14.20`	`ariel_`	`anyone know if there shipping the Sipura phone yet. I read the news Release but can't find anyone with them yet.`
`00:14.26`	`WilliamK`	`cypromis, one of my friends here in the US owns a company that does nothing but coding over there`
`00:14.41`	`Atacomm`	`bkw: think we should license our DSP out?`
`00:14.42`	`cypromis`	`WilliamK: I had a company like that and closed it`
`00:14.51`	`*** join/#asterisk CYBERLCAU (~Cyber@modemcable174.150-203-24.mc.videotron.ca)`
`00:15.02`	`ariel_`	`Atacomm, are going to stock the sipura phones?`
`00:15.11`	`Atacomm`	`ariel: definately, expect them next month`
`00:15.26`	`ariel_`	`are you taking advace orders?`
`00:15.28`	`WilliamK`	`Ata, where you at location wise?`
`00:15.43`	`CYBERLCAU`	`Is there a way to compile asterisk with the postgres module without having postgres installed locally (`
`00:15.44`	`Atacomm`	`ariel: not yet, we havent been given a feature set or pricing that is final yet`
`00:15.50`	`Atacomm`	`williams: minnesota`
`00:15.58`	`CYBERLCAU`	`I want to use a distributed architeture`
`00:16.35`	`bkw_`	`CYBERLCAU you better be ready to be WHACKED hard`
`00:16.42`	`bkw_`	`you didn't even say HI before you start asking questions`
`00:16.47`	`bkw_`	`and thats a simple one`
`00:16.49`	`CYBERLCAU`	`:) HI`
`00:16.50`	`bkw_`	`install the client libs`
`00:17.03`	`bkw_`	`one of the only pet peeves I have is people that bust in here just asking questions`
`00:17.54`	`AgiNamu`	`YES!!!`
`00:18.00`	`bkw_`	`in real life do you run up to a crowd and ask questions`
`00:18.21`	`bkw_`	`without first saying Hi?`
`00:18.24`	`CYBERLCAU`	`no, I'm more polite than that`
`00:18.32`	`AgiNamu`	`(And ran it from an extension!)`
`00:18.41`	`ManxPower`	`CYBERLCAU: This topic has been discussed to DEATH on the mailing lists.`
`00:18.57`	`bkw_`	`ok calm`
`00:20.09`	`CYBERLCAU`	`So the first thing to do it's ton install the postgres client libs?`
`00:20.50`	`bkw_`	`ok to be honest thats a very basic unix system administration issue... you should know this by now I would think :)`
`00:21.29`	`ariel_`	`well it's time to go back to the house and spend time with the family.`
`00:21.29`	`AgiNamu`	`Do you agree it's more important at first to expose the Asterisk API to .NET modules, versus exposing .NET modules to other Asterisk C modules?`
`00:21.30`	`bkw_`	`ok hillary duff is a hoe`
`00:21.50`	`sudoer2`	`???`
`00:22.23`	`bkw_`	`life is so over rated`
`00:22.34`	`bkw_`	`ok thats uber gay`
`00:23.32`	`bkw_`	`WORK?`
`00:23.37`	`Atacomm`	`...like a little girl`
`00:23.38`	`bkw_`	`ya know everything is so over rated`
`00:23.41`	`Atacomm`	`yeah, work`
`00:23.54`	`bkw_`	`everyone makes such a big deal out of everything`
`00:24.12`	`bkw_`	`like the hoe he is`
`00:24.16`	`bkw_`	`p00f`
`00:25.09`	`Atacomm`	`lol`
`00:25.33`	`Atacomm`	`well, off to work so i can finish our hardware......... there is so much left in software design that must be completed by january for it`
`00:25.54`	`Atacomm`	`drivers, dsp, firmware, install scripts, channel drivers, heh`
`00:26.47`	`darkskiez`	`Oct 17 01:21:20 NOTICE[1083517872]: res_musiconhold.c:306 monmp3thread: Request to schedule in the past?!?!`
`00:27.01`	`darkskiez`	`over and over..`
`00:27.05`	`darkskiez`	`randomly`
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`00:27.17`	`darkskiez`	`no calls coming in/going out..nowt`
`00:27.31`	`salimfadhley`	`darkskiez... sounds troubling`
`00:27.43`	`darkskiez`	`hmmm asterisk has started loooooads of mpg123 processes`
`00:27.45`	`bkw_`	`darkskiez its called a deadlock maybe`
`00:27.53`	`bkw_`	`darkskiez kill-9 them all`
`00:28.18`	`darkskiez`	`just did`
`00:28.21`	`CYBERLCAU`	`How about asterisk on debian, does it work without any gitch?`
`00:28.27`	`darkskiez`	`hahaha`
`00:28.31`	`darkskiez`	`that is asterisk on debian`
`00:28.34`	`bkw_`	`CYBERLCAU you're askin for it aren't you`
`00:28.46`	`bkw_`	`these should be very basic admin things that you should already know`
`00:28.52`	`bkw_`	`what distro do you like`
`00:28.53`	`bkw_`	`use it`
`00:28.57`	`darkskiez`	`h323 is boned, and apparently music on hold.`
`00:28.57`	`bkw_`	`doesn't matter one or the other`
`00:29.03`	`bkw_`	`the kernel is he same`
`00:29.24`	`bkw_`	`I use gentoo`
`00:29.29`	`bkw_`	`to each their own`
`00:29.31`	`bkw_`	`use what you like`
`00:29.32`	`bkw_`	`like what you use`
`00:29.44`	`paulc`	`love thy neighbour?`
`00:29.51`	`paulc`	`love thy neighbour's wife as your own?`
`00:29.55`	`CYBERLCAU`	`Yeah I kno ... I already install it on Rh, but I wan to switch to debian`
`00:30.06`	`darkskiez`	`www.funroll-loops.org`
`00:30.13`	`darkskiez`	`infighting in linux community? never.`
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`00:31.39`	`bkw_`	`ya ditch r00that`
`00:31.41`	`bkw_`	`its crap`
`00:33.45`	`bkw_`	`guess what they are gonna say tonight on cop drama`
`00:33.57`	`bkw_`	`tonight on cop drama on tv they're gonna say "SHIT"`
`00:36.34`	`puzzled`	`you can't say shit on US tv?`
`00:37.11`	`darkskiez`	`oh, chan_sip depends on music_on_hold... baws.`
`00:37.15`	`darkskiez`	`can unload it then`
`00:37.18`	`darkskiez`	`cant`
`00:37.39`	`bkw_`	`you can't unload it no`
`00:38.54`	`bkw_`	`you could if you create res_musiconhold_dummy.so`
`00:38.54`	`bkw_`	`and just reg the ast_moh_start/stop routines`
`00:38.54`	`WilliamK`	`don't see them in the cvs yet`
`00:38.55`	`bkw_`	`they are`
`00:39.36`	`WilliamK`	`ah, nm`
`00:39.39`	`WilliamK`	`I'm going bananas`
`00:40.23`	`bkw_`	`Don't mind Kyle he's just got sand in his vagina!!!`
`00:40.58`	`WilliamK`	`only one can imagine how painful that might be...`
`00:41.11`	`bkw_`	`yes really`
`00:41.30`	`iMediax`	`Curiuos...are there any sip/iax based yellow/white pages online?`
`00:41.37`	`ManxPower`	`Pain? You've not felt pain until you have an angry mob after you because of echo issues!`
`00:42.05`	`ManxPower`	`They were shouting "Kill the geek!"`
`00:42.07`	`WilliamK`	`Manx, been there this week`
`00:42.30`	`WilliamK`	`walked into full/half duplex mismatches on a network with 96 calls going at once`
`00:42.31`	`bkw_`	`I haven't`
`00:42.40`	`bkw_`	`I just tell them to shut the fuck up and leave me alone`
`00:42.40`	`bkw_`	`works every time`
`00:43.01`	`bkw_`	`but i'm not one to put something with echo into production in the first place`
`00:43.26`	`WilliamK`	`duplex mismatches play hell on VoIP`
`00:43.35`	`WilliamK`	`especially when the calls have to go through 2 sets of mismatches`
`00:43.54`	`bkw_`	`blame the telco`
`00:43.55`	`bkw_`	`I do`
`00:44.17`	`Kb1_Kanob`	`heh... a couple of my users partners work for the telco. It only goes so far...`
`00:44.41`	`Kb1_Kanob`	`now, blaming the telco sales dept. - that's a different matter.`
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`00:46.00`	`Kb1_Kanob`	`g'night all.`
`00:46.03`	`Kb1_Kanob`	`quit`
`00:46.50`	`paulc`	`Cisco "call hold ringback" - what's it do? I set mine to yes, expecting it to alert me of a cal put on hold longer than X.. but 3 mins later, no joy.. is there a timer value to be set somewhere?`
`00:48.12`	`Liv1ngst`	`Any hint about how to configure linphone for asterisk?`
`00:49.29`	`[hC]`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:50.30`	`paulc`	`[hC]: immediately?`
`00:52.51`	`[hC]`	`paulc: as far as i know. I dont have my cisco phone near me so i cant test it`
`00:54.35`	`paulc`	`[hC] I just tried calling my music on hold extension, pressing hold, replacing the handset. Nothing. Which is kinda what I expected. Ideally I'd like a call on hold for XX seconds to give me a chirp or bleep or something`
`00:59.26`	`*** part/#asterisk kuj (~kuj@c-67-165-241-16.client.comcast.net)`
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`01:20.48`	`puzzled`	`anyone know where I can find res_config`
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`01:21.49`	`wacky_`	`I'm having a tiny trouble. Sometimes... when I call over a SIP provider, I can't hear or be heard until I hit some DMTF keys..`
`01:21.54`	`wacky_`	`anyone aware of that problem ?`
`01:24.15`	`bkw_`	`ok this new beep.gsm`
`01:24.20`	`bkw_`	`is a bit long wouldn't ya say`
`01:24.29`	`bkw_`	`and loud`
`01:24.42`	`puzzled`	`bkw_: is res_config in HEAD or on some url?`
`01:24.52`	`paulc`	`bkw_ is it me, or does sound file upload not work on the control panel?`
`01:24.53`	`bkw_`	`res_config is in stable`
`01:25.03`	`puzzled`	`duh`
`01:25.06`	`bkw_`	`paulc its just very picky about what you can upload`
`01:25.14`	`bkw_`	`16bit 8000hz PCM`
`01:25.15`	`bkw_`	`or gsm`
`01:25.20`	`bkw_`	`I always upload just gsm files`
`01:25.25`	`bkw_`	`wavepad is your friend`
`01:25.25`	`bkw_`	`hehe`
`01:25.35`	`paulc`	`I'm taking a gsm from asterisk sounds and it's not working.. hmm.. let me copy to local drive not mapped and try again`
`01:26.13`	`*** join/#asterisk poemius (~poemius@adsl-70-48-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma)`
`01:26.24`	`poemius`	`hi everyone :)`
`01:26.43`	`poemius`	`sk`
`01:26.47`	`juggie`	`bkw, realtime voicemail & sip is still in the cvs tho right`
`01:26.47`	`poemius`	`oops :)`
`01:26.49`	`juggie`	`not stable?`
`01:26.57`	`bkw_`	`I think some of the asterisk sounds are broken`
`01:27.08`	`bkw_`	`juggie in dev`
`01:27.10`	`Nugget`	`all I use are the moo sounds. :)`
`01:28.19`	`Chuji`	`bkw_ : What's the regular expression to strip the 2 off of 25?`
`01:28.26`	`Chuji`	`in perl`
`01:28.27`	`Nugget`	`s/2//`
`01:28.30`	`Nugget`	`:)`
`01:28.43`	`bkw_`	`^d{1}`
`01:28.43`	`Chuji`	`Nugget : that will work in perl?`
`01:28.45`	`bkw_`	`isn't it or something`
`01:28.57`	`Nugget`	`s/^.// will strip the first character off anything`
`01:29.05`	`*** join/#asterisk twisted (~twisted@twisted.active.supporter.pdpc)`
`01:29.05`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ`
`01:29.15`	`Chuji`	`lemme try that`
`01:29.15`	`Nugget`	`what exactly do you want? obviously it's not to "strop the 2 off of 25"`
`01:29.24`	`Nugget`	`s/strop/strip/ :)`
`01:29.51`	`Nugget`	`do you mean by "strip" to capture the first digit or remove it?`
`01:29.57`	`Chuji`	`remove it`
`01:30.05`	`Nugget`	`ok, so s/^.// will do that.`
`01:30.09`	`poemius`	`s/strip/tease/`
`01:30.10`	`Nugget`	`s/^\d// to be safe.`
`01:30.25`	`Chuji`	`k, thanks`
`01:30.29`	`poemius`	`unsafe though :)`
`01:30.30`	`Nugget`	`$moo =~ s/^\d//;`
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`01:43.00`	`wacky_`	`is there a way to dial automatically to the extensions that were set in sip.conf (with the regexten command)`
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`01:46.52`	`darkskiez`	`hmmm`
`01:47.35`	`darkskiez`	`telephone numbers arent all 10 digits`
`01:48.17`	`WilliamK`	`true`
`01:49.36`	`darkskiez`	`nite`
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`01:52.04`	`SlowMo`	`can anyone tell me I have been out of look... why was mysql removed for IAX2 and sip`
`01:52.30`	`poemius`	`SlowMo: due to change in license to mysql`
`01:52.40`	`poemius`	`SlowMo: but you can access it through odbc`
`01:56.35`	`wacky_`	`what to do if I have 7000 extensions ? will I have one exten => 6452,1,Dial(SIP/thistelephone) for each of them ?!`
`01:56.38`	`scrubb`	`theres also the add-ons package that includes it.`
`01:56.49`	`scrubb`	`wacky_: no`
`01:57.02`	`wacky_`	`isn't there a regexten thing ?`
`01:57.22`	`scrubb`	`wacky_: _XXXX,1,Dail(SIP/${EXTEN}) or something like that.`
`01:57.30`	`scrubb`	`read up on the docs wacky_`
`01:57.50`	`wacky_`	`well.. in fact I read about all the voip-info.org website.. are there any other docs ?!`
`01:57.59`	`scrubb`	`jbot: docs?`
`01:58.00`	`jbot`	`Documentation can be found at http://digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation or http://www.digium.com/handbook-draft.pdf or #asterisk-doc, or http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk, or http://www.asteriskdocs.org`
`01:58.28`	`wacky_`	`oh wow :)`
`01:58.29`	`wacky_`	`thanks :)`
`01:58.29`	`scrubb`	`you can read about the pattern matchin for the extension`
`01:58.35`	`scrubb`	`no prob`
`01:58.59`	`wacky_`	`I know about pattern matching.. it's only that I'll have to set the name of the extensions to the names of the phone`
`01:59.18`	`wacky_`	`For instance, the sip phones are like SIP/linphone1 and SIP/xlite1`
`01:59.19`	`scrubb`	`wacky_: I have a sql db that I use to map exten to sip extension.`
`01:59.37`	`scrubb`	`or you can make the phone the name of its extension.`
`01:59.39`	`wacky_`	`but how to you recall this map when someone dials in ?`
`01:59.45`	`michael12345`	`hwo can I fix this`
`01:59.46`	`ManxPower`	`Useful Asterisk Docs (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unofficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ (my site) and http://asteriskdocs.org/`
`01:59.57`	`scrubb`	`wacky_: I have an AGI script that does the lookup.`
`01:59.58`	`michael12345`	`Don't know how to do a mode 'fpm-calm-river.mp3' music on hold`
`02:00.11`	`wacky_`	`oh :P do you know about regexten in the sip.conf file ?`
`02:00.21`	`wacky_`	`it's not on voip-info.org .. but only in the default sip.conf file`
`02:01.24`	`michael12345`	`please help really urgent`
`02:01.29`	`michael12345`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:01.34`	`michael12345`	`is the error message`
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`02:02.52`	`puzzled`	`michael12345: no idea. just disable MoH until you have figured it out`
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`02:08.42`	`criptos`	`hi!`
`02:08.49`	`criptos`	`does anyone knows a fax 2 mail solution?`
`02:09.47`	`michael12345`	`puzzled: asterisk works I need music on hold that is why it is desperate`
`02:09.50`	`wacky_`	`scrubb - you call your AGI script to SetVar some stuff and then Dial(${SOMESTUFF}) ?`
`02:09.57`	`wacky_`	`for the map ?`
`02:10.22`	`wacky_`	`how is AGI ? I've never tried ? and what prog you put at the other end ?`
`02:10.33`	`juggie`	`michael12345, what distro`
`02:10.33`	`Moc`	`is there a Asterisk MAN for C functions ? ;)`
`02:10.40`	`scrubb`	`wacky_: yup, actually i have lots of variables in my channel that control the call, like DND, and Call forward.`
`02:11.11`	`scrubb`	`but essentially, i lookup what extension was dialed, and dial the variable.`
`02:11.33`	`scrubb`	`I use Perl. Check out the perl asterisk module. works great.`
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`02:12.59`	`ManxPower`	`criptos: It's called HylaFax`
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`02:16.01`	`enzo123`	`hey all`
`02:16.55`	`enzo123`	`anyone using chan_sccp ?`
`02:17.39`	`enzo123`	`better yet anyone have it build on CVS ?`
`02:17.51`	`enzo123`	sccp_channel.c:48: structure has no member named `callerid'
`02:19.14`	`criptos`	`ManxPower sure u can recive a fax addreseed to specific email, and hylafax can take this fax and mail it to the specified user?`
`02:20.09`	`bkw_`	`Moc youd idn't just ask if their was a man for c functions?`
`02:20.12`	`bkw_`	`man function`
`02:20.15`	`bkw_`	`it should all be there`
`02:20.39`	`file`	`helllllllllllllllllllllllllo`
`02:21.07`	`enzo123`	`anyone have any idea's for sccp ?`
`02:22.02`	`Moc`	`bkw_, not for C functions, but for * functions`
`02:22.10`	`bkw_`	`make progdocs`
`02:22.14`	`bkw_`	`read the header files`
`02:22.15`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`02:22.46`	`Moc`	`ha, that never worked for me ;) ok.. i'll try to make it work ... bbl heeh`
`02:22.54`	`bkw_`	`gotta have doxygen installed`
`02:23.29`	`Moc`	`I know`
`02:23.35`	`brc_`	`pizzahut pan pizza > *`
`02:23.47`	`brc_`	`greetz ppl omg lolz!`
`02:24.00`	`brc_`	`file!`
`02:24.33`	`Moc`	`wtf it working now ... oh well... good heeh`
`02:24.37`	andrew`	`brc_: still installing`
`02:24.42`	`brc_`	`hahahah`
`02:24.45`	andrew`	`hehehe`
`02:24.53`	`brc_`	`dude`
`02:24.53`	`Moc`	`ha no errors`
`02:25.04`	`brc_`	`debian takes like 20 minutes to install on a bad day`
`02:25.07`	andrew`	`well - now i'm compiling a kernel...on the 7th hour`
`02:25.15`	`brc_`	`vs gentoo which takes 20 hours * 20`
`02:25.18`	andrew`	`yeah i gave up on installing it on that computer and borrowed this one`
`02:25.21`	`brc_`	`but that's another story for another day...`
`02:25.26`	andrew`	`moved the hd back over and it started fine`
`02:27.19`	`Moc`	`i ment errors hehe`
`02:27.58`	`enzo123`	`anyone have any idea what this means ?`
`02:28.00`	`enzo123`	sccp_channel.c:48: structure has no member named `callerid'
`02:28.14`	`enzo123`	`been trying to two days to get this to work`
`02:28.23`	`file`	`enzo123: use stable, not cvs head if you want to use that sccp stuff`
`02:28.30`	`file`	`caller id stuff changed in cvs head but not stable, so it'll work with it`
`02:28.43`	`brc_`	`TOLD YOU SO!`
`02:28.45`	`brc_`	`HA!`
`02:28.55`	`brc_`	`~asterisk stable`
`02:28.56`	`jbot`	`from memory, asterisk stable is "cvs checkout -r v1-0 asterisk: ... also available on the ftp site at asterisk.org`
`02:29.06`	`enzo123`	`will i have to rebuild all my g729 stuff if i got to stable from cvs ?`
`02:29.16`	`brc_`	`maybe(tm)`
`02:29.31`	`enzo123`	`and rereg my keys`
`02:29.36`	`brc_`	`no`
`02:29.39`	`file`	`enzo123: no`
`02:30.22`	`enzo123`	`anyone let the sccp guys know this is broken ?`
`02:30.27`	`brc_`	`no`
`02:30.42`	`file`	`it's not broken, it's only broken on cvs head`
`02:30.47`	`file`	`which is in a state of flux`
`02:30.48`	`brc_`	`what he said`
`02:30.50`	`brc_`	`so`
`02:30.52`	`enzo123`	`yeah`
`02:30.55`	`brc_`	`there is no point it trying to keep up`
`02:31.01`	`enzo123`	`guess thats true`
`02:31.10`	`brc_`	`that said`
`02:31.11`	`enzo123`	`you guys use sccp ?`
`02:31.21`	`brc_`	`I am _Certian_ that they welecome patches`
`02:31.24`	`brc_`	`no, nobody uses sccp`
`02:31.31`	`enzo123`	`i converted my 7960 to sip`
`02:31.33`	`brc_`	`it's....cr49`
`02:31.34`	`bkw_`	`yes they do`
`02:31.36`	`bkw_`	`some people do`
`02:31.46`	`bkw_`	`brc_ if nobody uses why did people write it?`
`02:31.49`	`brc_`	`:p`
`02:31.53`	`brc_`	`leme rephrase`
`02:31.57`	`brc_`	`nobody in their right mind`
`02:31.57`	`bkw_`	`"Oh lets write this channel driver that NOBODY will ever use!"`
`02:31.57`	`enzo123`	`but i picked up 4 12sp+ for 50 bucks`
`02:31.59`	`brc_`	`happy?`
`02:32.10`	`brc_`	`:p`
`02:32.24`	`enzo123`	`this phone will only do sccp`
`02:32.59`	`enzo123`	`maybe ill get crazy later and move to stable`
`02:33.12`	`brc_`	`okay'`
`02:33.16`	`brc_`	`what's up with slashdot lately?`
`02:33.20`	`enzo123`	`guess i could backup my cvs install`
`02:33.25`	`brc_`	`the past two days EVERY SINGLE page I view is misrendered`
`02:33.35`	`brc_`	`I have'NT upgraded firefox in the last 3 weeks`
`02:33.45`	`brc_`	`~google _asterisk-update`
`02:33.51`	`brc_`	`that will backup for you`
`02:34.08`	`enzo123`	`have you guys seen google desktop`
`02:34.10`	`enzo123`	`its crazy`
`02:35.09`	`pfn`	`?`
`02:35.13`	`pfn`	`screenshot?`
`02:35.36`	`brc_`	`no`
`02:35.37`	`enzo123`	`it runs the google search on your pc`
`02:35.42`	`brc_`	`desktop.google.com`
`02:35.44`	`brc_`	`labs.google.com`
`02:35.50`	`enzo123`	`you can lookup anything on your box`
`02:35.59`	`enzo123`	`bad for porn good for searching`
`02:36.01`	`brc_`	`it does NOT index firefox history/thunderbirdmail/gaim chat logs properly.....YET`
`02:36.17`	`enzo123`	`dont let your wife use it`
`02:36.21`	`brc_`	`there's a suggestion box with a catagory specially for firefox`
`02:36.47`	`brc_`	`enzo123, it automagically comes up at the top of any google search if anything on your 'desktop' matches that search`
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`02:37.32`	`enzo123`	`nice`
`02:37.44`	`enzo123`	`note to self " lock pc "`
`02:38.28`	`enzo123`	`what would be the best way to backup my cvs install`
`02:38.35`	`brc_`	`your install?`
`02:38.37`	`brc_`	`or the files`
`02:38.40`	`brc_`	`either way`
`02:38.40`	`enzo123`	`just mv the asterisk dir to asteris-back`
`02:38.43`	`brc_`	`tar + bz2`
`02:38.48`	`brc_`	`oh`
`02:38.49`	`brc_`	`yes`
`02:38.49`	`enzo123`	`not back`
`02:39.03`	`enzo123`	`just so i could copy it back into place if i had to`
`02:39.17`	`enzo123`	`would a dir rename work ?`
`02:40.44`	`enzo123`	`are the zap drivers in with the stable tarball ?`
`02:44.06`	`Moc`	`bkw_, you got a simple C app that connect 2 already made call together ?`
`02:44.53`	`Moc`	`im actually want to dial multiple person, and the first one that pickup and enter a correct PIN, he get the call`
`02:46.00`	`Moc`	`im kind of stuck at 2 section, 1 how should I handle 20 outgoing call, even after the call is picked up by 10 user maybe, until someone type the right password`
`02:46.15`	`Moc`	`2, is how to connect that person to the original caller`
`02:49.22`	`Moc`	`hi kram`
`02:50.54`	`kram`	`hi moc what's up`
`02:51.06`	`michael12345`	`what happens with calls if an operator is a member of multiple queues which queue does the call come off`
`02:52.34`	`pfn`	`whichever one calls first :p`
`02:52.37`	`enzo123`	`ok`
`02:52.45`	`enzo123`	`anyone know what this is`
`02:52.48`	`enzo123`	`Oct 16 22:52:04 WARNING[-1222291328]: loader.c:429 load_modules: Loading module app_realtime.so failed!`
`02:53.02`	`enzo123`	`its puking on that on load`
`02:53.06`	`pfn`	`is app realtime in 1.0?`
`02:53.14`	`enzo123`	`1.0.1`
`02:53.20`	`pfn`	`it is?`
`02:53.45`	`enzo123`	`maybe tell it to not load the module ?`
`02:53.55`	`czero`	`any suggestion on terms to search for if I want the ability for a user to dial there own # enter a code then dial out withthe LD charges being billied as if they called direct from the phone`
`02:54.00`	`enzo123`	`what does app_realtime do ?`
`02:55.49`	`pfn`	`direct from what phone`
`02:55.57`	`docelm0`	`Any idea how to fix this?`
`02:55.58`	`docelm0`	`Oct 16 22:55:43 WARNING[147465]: chan_iax2.c:5962 socket_read: Received mini frame before first full voice frame`
`02:55.58`	`docelm0`	`<PROTECTED>`
`02:56.19`	`pfn`	`docelm0 sounds like a packet checksum failed`
`02:56.28`	`docelm0`	`ok how do I fix that?`
`02:56.37`	`pfn`	`make sure you don't have a bad connection`
`02:56.46`	`docelm0`	`define bad connection?`
`02:57.36`	`pfn`	`enzo what crack are you smoking? app_realtime isn't in 1.0.1`
`02:57.57`	`czero`	`pfn: the situation I want is, I dial my SIP phone # form say a cell phone, enter a code/what ever then can dial out , purpose I don;t have internation LD on my cell and want a convienent way to call intrenational form my cell`
`02:58.17`	`pfn`	`then what do you mean by "billed as if"`
`02:58.44`	`pfn`	`if you want to bill people, use one of the many calling card/prepaid solutions`
`02:58.46`	`czero`	`I want the call billed to the SIP phone same as if I Was sitting dialing fomr it`
`02:58.55`	`czero`	`ok`
`02:58.58`	`pfn`	`the billing has nothing to do with it`
`02:59.03`	`enzo123`	`pfn..`
`02:59.18`	`enzo123`	`guess it was in one of the config files from cvs or something`
`02:59.24`	`pfn`	`?`
`02:59.26`	`enzo123`	`for some reason it was trying to load it`
`02:59.29`	`docelm0`	`pfn, what does bad connection mean? I am on cable`
`02:59.34`	`docelm0`	`never had a problem before`
`02:59.37`	`enzo123`	`i did a noload and it worked`
`02:59.40`	`pfn`	`docelm0 it means a packet is getting corrupted`
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`02:59.53`	`pfn`	`enzo you must have compiled development cvs at one point`
`02:59.54`	`docelm0`	`ya but how.. Thats what I dont understand..`
`03:00.06`	`enzo123`	`maybe so`
`03:00.19`	`SlowMo`	`so if MySQL has been Ripped out what do you use now for CDR`
`03:00.55`	`docelm0`	`can someone try to call my IAX number? Tell me what you get? 700-774-4684`
`03:04.26`	`pfn`	`I need to go downstairs and install my pots splitter`
`03:05.06`	`pfn`	`hmmm`
`03:05.09`	`pfn`	`my pots splitter is working fine`
`03:05.13`	`pfn`	`sbc must have been having a problem`
`03:05.21`	`pfn`	`damnit, what a waste of $40 buying a new pots splitter`
`03:06.08`	`docelm0`	`40 for a pots splitter..`
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`03:07.35`	`ManxPower`	`What is wrong with this?`
`03:07.37`	`ManxPower`	`exten => 84,4,SetVar(PATTERN=XwXwXXXwXXXX)`
`03:07.38`	`ManxPower`	`exten => 84,5,Cut(BOBPATTERN=PATTERN,w,1)`
`03:08.12`	`pfn`	`manxpower you want X ?`
`03:08.30`	`ManxPower`	`Bob pattern should be X in this case, right?`
`03:08.33`	`ManxPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:08.33`	`pfn`	`docelm0 yeah, they're not the POS jack filters that telcos ship you now`
`03:08.56`	`pfn`	`does cut support , ?`
`03:09.02`	`ManxPower`	`Yes.`
`03:09.05`	`pfn`	`I guess it does`
`03:09.14`	`ManxPower`	`pbx.c translates it to \| before running cut`
`03:09.22`	`ManxPower`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:09.44`	`ManxPower`	`And according to everything I can see about cut you do not put ${} around the variable name`
`03:09.50`	`pfn`	`you don't`
`03:09.56`	`pfn`	`I do cut like this`
`03:10.03`	`pfn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:10.03`	`pfn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:15.14`	`SlowMo`	`so if MySQL has been Ripped out what do you use now for CDR Billing`
`03:18.20`	`pfn`	`who told you it's been ripped out`
`03:18.29`	`pfn`	`be a bit more thorough in your search`
`03:19.18`	`mishehu`	`really`
`03:19.23`	`SlowMo`	`<poemius> SlowMo: due to change in license to mysql`
`03:19.33`	`Moc`	`is it wise to start threads within a app ?`
`03:19.51`	`mishehu`	`I'm building a simplistic cdr report generator in php for use with mysql... just because I'm trying to learn a bit of php...`
`03:19.57`	`pfn`	`moc my guess is no, since an app should block for the result`
`03:20.31`	`mishehu`	`SlowMo: "ripped out" as in from the base source tarball. it does exist as a separate package.`
`03:20.41`	`Moc`	`pfn, well it will, I want to make 20 outgoing call, and transfer to the first person who enter #`
`03:21.09`	`Moc`	`so it will block until a thread return as answered #, and then tell the others thread to hangup up and then exit the app`
`03:21.42`	`pfn`	`that sounds fine as long as you don't cause your shit to block`
`03:21.45`	`pfn`	`lock`
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`03:22.05`	`YoYo`	`BURP`
`03:22.18`	`tzanger`	`pfn I hate blocked shit`
`03:22.21`	`Moc`	`pfn, yes, alot of work to do`
`03:22.21`	`tzanger`	`constipation's a bitch`
`03:24.37`	`YoYo`	`anyone know how to look at IRQ assignments on FreeBSD?`
`03:24.46`	`YoYo`	`in 10 years, I've never had to do that before`
`03:25.12`	`SlowMo`	`one thing has the Chanspy and music on hold been added to Current CVS`
`03:26.01`	`SlowMo`	`and does voicemail support msql now`
`03:30.14`	`kram`	`any debian people here?`
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`03:31.16`	`wacky_`	`I'm having troubles with linphone <=> Asterisk`
`03:31.42`	`wacky_`	`at some point (not always the same), Asterisk or linphone starts to skip a lot.. until I can't hear anything`
`03:32.46`	`Moc`	`kram, alittle`
`03:33.20`	`wacky_`	`is it normal I don't hear all the DMTF signals I send ?!`
`03:34.26`	`wacky_`	`any linphone user here ?`
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`03:47.26`	`bkw_`	`kram kram he's our man`
`03:47.41`	`bkw_`	`how long does it take kram to find that damn Chicken`
`03:48.22`	`pfn`	`diamonds sure are purty`
`03:48.26`	`pfn`	`I wonder how much being a gemologist pays`
`03:48.27`	`pfn`	`heh`
`03:49.45`	`bkw_`	`muffin anyone?`
`03:50.00`	`YoYo`	`sure`
`03:50.10`	`bkw_`	`OMG its YOYO`
`03:50.19`	`YoYo`	`OMG it's ME`
`03:51.08`	`YoYo`	`I'm installing axterix on FreeBSD with an x100 and a tdm400 thingie`
`03:52.06`	`citats`	`iirc only the x100p driver had been ported to freebsd`
`03:52.08`	`YoYo`	`also, I'm going to try to make it an AP... just hope I can get an Orinoco gold card to work with a belkin PCMCIA adapter`
`03:52.15`	`YoYo`	`citats:`
`03:52.25`	`YoYo`	`Channel 01: FXS Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 01)`
`03:52.25`	`YoYo`	`Channel 02: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 02)`
`03:52.25`	`YoYo`	`Channel 03: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 03)`
`03:52.25`	`YoYo`	`Channel 04: FXO Kewlstart (Default) (Slaves: 04)`
`03:52.28`	`YoYo`	`=D`
`03:52.33`	`citats`	`cool`
`03:52.37`	`YoYo`	`T100P is being worked on now`
`03:52.40`	`citats`	`i'm happy to be proved wrong in this case :)`
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`03:52.43`	`YoYo`	`hopefully, the T400P will follow soon`
`03:52.47`	`Moc`	`damnit can't get this to work`
`03:52.49`	`bkw_`	`hehe`
`03:52.57`	`BoRiS`	`Good evening gentlemen :)`
`03:53.05`	`Moc`	`hi BoRiS`
`03:53.11`	`YoYo`	`Maxim is a bit slow, but he (and his anonymous friend) are getting it done`
`03:53.14`	`bkw_`	`BoRiS get that pic for me yet?`
`03:53.20`	`BoRiS`	`hi Moc, bkw_!!!!!!!!!!!!`
`03:53.42`	`BoRiS`	`bkw_: Sssssssssssssssh :)`
`03:53.49`	`Darwin35`	`669`
`03:53.57`	`Darwin35`	`mOOOSEpENIS`
`03:54.16`	`BoRiS`	`How are you guys?`
`03:54.29`	`Moc`	`trying to make a virtual Call within a App !!`
`03:54.41`	`bkw_`	`request_and_dial`
`03:54.59`	`Darwin35`	`lots of good short films and bears everywhere`
`03:55.02`	`bkw_`	`ast_request_and_dial`
`03:55.06`	`bkw_`	`nice call`
`03:55.11`	`Darwin35`	`it was Bears Night at the fILMS`
`03:55.16`	`BoRiS`	`Mmmmm`
`03:55.17`	`YoYo`	`hrrm... shit`
`03:55.28`	`Moc`	`ha... that make sence thanks bkw_ ;)`
`03:55.30`	`Darwin35`	`was fun`
`03:55.34`	`YoYo`	`if I change INSTALL_PREFIX /after/ I build, then Asterisk won't know where to look for it's config, right?`
`03:55.36`	`*** join/#asterisk BurnedOutGeek (~mark@res-66-191-172-161.spa.sc.charter.com)`
`03:55.40`	`Moc`	`how could I bridge that call to a nother channel ?`
`03:55.41`	`bkw_`	`Moc thats the lowest call you can make`
`03:55.46`	`bkw_`	`their is another call on top of that one`
`03:55.51`	`Moc`	`forget that`
`03:55.54`	`BurnedOutGeek`	`can anyone help me to compile the zaptel drivers for a 2.6 kernel?`
`03:55.56`	`Silik0n`	`yawn`
`03:55.57`	`Moc`	`ast_bridge_call I guess`
`03:56.08`	`bkw_`	`its ast_pbx_outgoing_exten`
`03:56.14`	`bkw_`	`in pbx.c`
`03:56.30`	`Darwin35`	`no one wants to chat voice`
`03:56.44`	`Darwin35`	`and discuss life and how it has changed oour sexlives`
`03:57.37`	`marcus2`	`is it possible to use vonage and friends from asterisk?`
`03:57.43`	`bkw_`	`no`
`03:57.49`	`bkw_`	`unless you get a softphone account`
`03:58.20`	`marcus2`	`i guess it might not matter with 1.7c/min from simpletelecom`
`03:58.52`	`bkw_`	`who needs longdistance`
`03:58.55`	`bkw_`	`when you got asterisk`
`03:59.03`	`marcus2`	`well that is via iax2`
`03:59.08`	`bkw_`	`so`
`03:59.10`	`bkw_`	`screw the PSTN`
`03:59.16`	`bkw_`	`voip all da way`
`03:59.28`	`BoRiS`	`with no PSTN charges? Sure!`
`03:59.34`	`marcus2`	`yeah as soon as everyone that receives calls from this house is moved off of the pstn`
`04:00.01`	`Silik0n`	`Darwin35 a) life a bitch, b) you get married and have sex all over the house, then you have a kid and start having sex in the bedroom with the doors locked, then it porgresses a little further and you start having hallway sex... closest thing you get is a "F-you" as you pass the bitch int he hallway... next you die (or get divorces in which she takes 1/2 of what you have now and 1/2 of all your furture earnings, plus another 1/3 of what you earn for ch`
`04:00.36`	`Silik0n`	`in which case dying would be better`
`04:00.44`	`sudoer2`	`everyone dies`
`04:00.45`	`BoRiS`	`Sounds like a bad life.`
`04:01.13`	`Silik0n`	`sounds like life in america to me`
`04:01.16`	`sudoer2`	`how do i found info about people being banned from channel?`
`04:05.04`	`marcus2`	`hrm anyone familiar with teliax?`
`04:05.15`	`mishehu`	`if I got divorced and the ex was going to try to guzzle all my money/assets, I'd be back overseas again`
`04:05.17`	`mishehu`	`heh`
`04:05.23`	`Darwin35`	`lol`
`04:05.35`	`Darwin35`	`996`
`04:07.14`	`Nugget`	`997 > 996.`
`04:07.58`	`Silik0n`	`i'd just shoot the bitch, it'd be cheaper`
`04:08.11`	`Silik0n`	`and if I got caught whats the worse they could do? gimme the death penatly?`
`04:08.17`	`BurnedOutGeek`	`anyone have teh zaptel crapo working with a 2.6 kernel?`
`04:08.18`	`pfn`	`alimoney favors the women far too much`
`04:08.27`	`pfn`	`in today's equal opportunity world, we should no longer have alimoney`
`04:08.34`	`pfn`	`alimony`
`04:08.37`	`pfn`	`bleh, can't spell`
`04:08.41`	`Silik0n`	`alomoney, childsupport and child custody trial law`
`04:08.47`	`Nugget`	`it depends on the state, really.`
`04:08.48`	`pfn`	`child support is ok`
`04:08.53`	`pfn`	`100% support is stupid`
`04:08.53`	`Silik0n`	`spelling is over rated`
`04:08.56`	`Nugget`	`the laws vary wildly from state to state.`
`04:08.56`	`pfn`	`50% is reasonable`
`04:09.04`	`Nugget`	`texas is a great state to get divorced in (for the guy)`
`04:09.31`	`Silik0n`	`pfn: not really... most states dont account at all for the ammount of time the child spends with the "non-custodial" parent nor does it take into account other children you may have...`
`04:09.59`	`pfn`	`silikon 2 parents, 50% support`
`04:10.01`	`pfn`	`sounds reasonable to me`
`04:10.19`	`Silik0n`	`thats would be a vast improvement over what they do tho`
`04:10.28`	`pfn`	`silikon I know`
`04:10.43`	`pfn`	`alimony is also bullshit, bitch can find work on her own`
`04:10.54`	`pfn`	`or if I had a sugar momma`
`04:10.57`	`pfn`	`I can find my own work`
`04:11.31`	`pfn`	`I wonder how pretty well-cut moissanite is...`
`04:11.36`	`Silik0n`	`pfn: in TN if you have 1 Child they take 1/3 of your monthly pretax for child support... if you have 2 kids they take like 40%, unless you have 2 kids with different women then each woman gets 30% of your pretax income leaving you with howmuch after uncle same gets you?`
`04:11.53`	`Silik0n`	`s/same/`
`04:11.57`	`pfn`	`what a rip`
`04:11.58`	`Silik0n`	`sam`
`04:12.00`	`Silik0n`	`yeah`
`04:12.27`	`Silik0n`	`they dont account for your other kids at all`
`04:12.32`	`BoRiS`	`Well, Theirs a simple answer....Dont fuck around. lol!`
`04:12.44`	`Silik0n`	`no the simple answer is just shoot the bitch heh`
`04:12.57`	`Silik0n`	`the kids move home and you dont have to worry anymore`
`04:13.16`	`Silik0n`	`just besure to watch a whole season of CSI to find out what not to do heh`
`04:13.30`	`*** join/#asterisk MustDie (~voip@ool-18b91fa7.dyn.optonline.net)`
`04:13.30`	`BoRiS`	`lol`
`04:13.33`	`mishehu`	`it's just a tv show`
`04:13.47`	`mishehu`	`there is no quantum flux, there is no auxiliary, there is not GAWDDAMN SHIP!`
`04:13.55`	`mishehu`	`s/not/no`
`04:13.56`	`BoRiS`	`Why is it that I bet someone who was going to commit murder would watch that show just to know what to do...lol`
`04:14.26`	`Silik0n`	`BoRis because its on TV it MUST Be TRUE!`
`04:15.05`	`MustDie`	`silikon: too much ps2 games ?`
`04:15.18`	`Silik0n`	`no, just bitter`
`04:15.31`	`Darwin35`	`996`
`04:15.44`	`Silik0n`	`668`
`04:15.46`	`Nugget`	`997 > 996.`
`04:16.11`	`pfn`	`bleh, I need to auction off my pots splitter`
`04:16.11`	`BoRiS`	`69`
`04:16.13`	`pfn`	`I'm irritated`
`04:16.24`	`pfn`	`I wonder how much I'll make back`
`04:16.24`	`MustDie`	`69. yammy :P`
`04:17.13`	`*** join/#asterisk file (~joshnet@mctn1-2452.nb.aliant.net)`
`04:17.29`	`file`	`996 dammit`
`04:18.30`	`MustDie`	`hmm... no objections.....`
`04:18.41`	`Silik0n`	`MustDie: masochistic desires eh?`
`04:18.56`	`YoYo`	`IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!! IT WORKS!!!`
`04:19.09`	`MustDie`	`yoyo: what works ?`
`04:19.37`	`Moc`	`ok... I gota learn how to make a array of pointers`
`04:19.41`	`YoYo`	`FreeBSD mario.office.psknet.com 5.3-STABLE FreeBSD 5.3-STABLE #0: Sun Oct 17 06:39:11 EDT 2004`
`04:19.45`	`Moc`	`to threads`
`04:19.59`	`YoYo`	`Moc: easy`
`04:20.04`	`Silik0n`	`**pointer`
`04:20.10`	`YoYo`	`try an array of arrays to pointers to pointers to threads`
`04:20.33`	`Silik0n`	`i hate pointer math`
`04:20.41`	`drumkilla`	`it's not so bad`
`04:20.49`	`YoYo`	`how about a linked list of arrays of arrays of pointers to pointers to threads?`
`04:20.52`	`Silik0n`	`i didnt say it was that bad, i just said I hate it`
`04:21.02`	`Moc`	`yes the **pointer I got that part ;)`
`04:21.05`	`drumkilla`	`ha, fair enough`
`04:21.08`	`Moc`	`just playing with it is my problem heh`
`04:21.38`	`YoYo`	`WTF does asterisk want with my TTY?`
`04:21.38`	`YoYo`	`$ safe_asterisk`
`04:21.38`	`YoYo`	`Cannot find your TTY (9)`
`04:26.17`	`MustDie`	`boring`
`04:26.34`	`YoYo`	`grr... safe_asterisk doesn't like freebsd very much`
`04:26.47`	`MustDie`	`freebsd does not like YoYo`
`04:26.47`	`MustDie`	`:P`
`04:26.59`	`YoYo`	`shaddup`
`04:27.01`	`enzo123`	`wow the chan_sccp driver blows`
`04:27.02`	`YoYo`	`FreeBSD luvs me`
`04:27.14`	`enzo123`	`you hit the speedial and it kills *`
`04:27.48`	`MustDie`	`enzo123: don't touch speed dial then`
`04:27.49`	`*** join/#asterisk lilneon (~tj_r3@200.108.19.83)`
`04:28.13`	`enzo123`	`haha`
`04:28.26`	`enzo123`	`and it just quits working after about 3 min`
`04:28.26`	`lilneon`	`hi everyone..`
`04:28.37`	`bkw_`	`can someone test this please www.bkw.org/gsm.diff.txt`
`04:28.38`	`MustDie`	`enzo123: hmm.. this is worse`
`04:28.44`	`enzo123`	`chan_skinny doesn't seem to do caller id`
`04:28.48`	`bkw_`	`fixes all those pesky compile warnings`
`04:28.58`	`enzo123`	`chan_skinny works great just no caller id`
`04:29.02`	`enzo123`	`which sucks`
`04:29.53`	`bkw_`	`nope just fixing those warnings`
`04:29.54`	`YoYo`	`what does this mean?`
`04:29.56`	`YoYo`	`Oct 17 08:31:27 WARNING[140911104]: chan_zap.c:1543 zt_call: Unable to reset default ring on 'Zap/3-1'`
`04:30.04`	`bkw_`	`exactly what it says`
`04:30.06`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`04:30.08`	`YoYo`	`fool`
`04:30.21`	`lilneon`	`are there n e tutorials for asterisk?`
`04:30.26`	`lilneon`	`n e ???`
`04:30.31`	`bkw_`	`~useful asterisk docs`
`04:30.32`	`jbot`	`i guess useful asterisk docs is it has been said that useful asterisk docs is (BOOKMARK THEM!): http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=documentation (look at the "Unnoficial Links") and http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk (the Wiki), and http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk (ManxPower's site), and http://asteriskdocs.org, also, read all files in /usr/src/asterisk/doc`
`04:30.36`	`bkw_`	`TADA`
`04:30.38`	`lilneon`	`seems like i am the only one interested in asterisk who doesn't knwo crap`
`04:30.51`	`YoYo`	`~google dumbasses`
`04:30.53`	`*** join/#asterisk MaeWest (~maewest@c-24-30-82-93.mw.client2.attbi.com)`
`04:31.01`	`bkw_`	`hahahahahahahaha`
`04:31.31`	`YoYo`	`lilneon: not at all... there's lotsa people who don't know crap and are interested in asterisk`
`04:31.48`	`YoYo`	`Oct 17 08:31:27 WARNING[140911104]: chan_zap.c:1543 zt_call: Unable to reset default ring on 'Zap/3-1'`
`04:31.52`	`MustDie`	`~bored`
`04:31.53`	`jbot`	`hell yeah, i'm a bot, lol`
`04:31.55`	`*** join/#asterisk heison (~heison@CPE000a01d49e6f-CM00111a59bec2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com)`
`04:32.34`	`lilneon`	`man... :S`
`04:32.41`	`MustDie`	`~lart lilneon`
`04:33.11`	`MustDie`	`~lart YoYo`
`04:33.22`	`lilneon`	`lol`
`04:33.58`	`lilneon`	`i already got asterisk up and running and i can call otehr iax ppl.. (was feeling proud)..`
`04:34.43`	`lilneon`	`now i wanna terminate at other pstn /landlines...`
`04:34.43`	`YoYo`	`ok... how does one get verbose output from asterisk?`
`04:34.51`	`lilneon`	`um./.. the -VVV...`
`04:34.53`	`BoRiS`	`VoIP termination providers or X100P cards :)`
`04:34.55`	`lilneon`	`come on yoyo..`
`04:35.07`	`YoYo`	`no no... not that`
`04:35.12`	`YoYo`	`hrrm... hold on`
`04:35.59`	`lilneon`	`i've searched and searched thru soo many voip providers.. and finally decided to set up a test with one fo them..`
`04:36.20`	`lilneon`	`so they sent me a form.. and the questions had me thinking.. wat da @@@`
`04:36.35`	`YoYo`	`grr... I'm going to have to rewrite the safe_asterisk script`
`04:36.37`	`Moc`	`ok I got my array of threads..`
`04:36.52`	`Moc`	`but I got to find out how to send/receive signals from them`
`04:37.10`	`YoYo`	`WTF is up with subdirectories in /dev/?`
`04:37.16`	`scrubb`	`lilneon: which one`
`04:37.36`	`Vco`	`for some reason an array of threads sounds like a closet full of pimp suits...`
`04:37.42`	`YoYo`	`nm... seems fbsd has them too`
`04:37.45`	`YoYo`	`fuckin weird`
`04:37.46`	`lilneon`	`scrubb-> i callglobe`
`04:37.46`	`Vco`	`i gotta stop watching cheesy tv shows`
`04:39.14`	`YoYo`	`safe_asterisk is exiting, saying asterisk is exiting, when it's not`
`04:41.22`	`Silik0n`	`anyone know what Allison's turn aroudn time on voice prompts is these days?`
`04:41.52`	`ManxPower`	`YoYo: Well if asterisk is running running it a second time via safe_asterisk the second instance will exit`
`04:41.52`	`*** join/#asterisk coppice (~Steve_Und@166.203.17.210.dyn.pacific.net.hk)`
`04:42.28`	`bkw_`	`yo coppice whats up`
`04:42.39`	`YoYo`	`Manx: asterisk isn't running. try to start it with safe_asterisk, it starts successfully, but the script exits saying that asterisk exited`
`04:42.52`	`YoYo`	`no biggy... it's some weird linuxism in the script that i needs to fix`
`04:43.00`	`coppice`	`bkw_ things progress as usual - slowly :-)`
`04:43.04`	`bkw_`	`ss7?`
`04:43.16`	`bkw_`	`;)`
`04:43.36`	`coppice`	`we were joking about ss8 last week. I found there is a company by that name`
`04:43.47`	`coppice`	`SS7 is progressing OK`
`04:44.19`	`bkw_`	`kewl`
`04:44.44`	`BoRiS`	`What is this ss7 all about?`
`04:44.56`	`MustDie`	`boris: it's something which has not ringing :P`
`04:45.14`	`mishehu`	`I wonder how much real ice cream one of these packets of astronaut ice cream is equivalent to... they claim one serving as 64g, and 24 servings per packet...`
`04:45.30`	`mishehu`	`I think it's more like 1 serving per packet...`
`04:46.48`	`coppice`	`BoRiS: SS7 is what all signalling protocols want to be whenthe grow up :-)`
`04:47.51`	`mishehu`	`I thought the majority of ss7 was unimplemented in practice`
`04:50.30`	`*** join/#asterisk Valentines (JJ@modemcable060.109-80-70.mc.videotron.ca)`
`04:50.37`	`Valentines`	`Hi all!`
`04:51.11`	`mishehu`	`Valentines: you're too early. come again in a few months.`
`04:51.12`	`mishehu`	`heh`
`04:51.21`	`Valentines`	`What??`
`04:51.30`	`Valentines`	`Oh`
`04:51.31`	`Valentines`	`Heh`
`04:51.53`	`Valentines`	`mishehu, can I get you to send a test call through the new VoipJet server?`
`04:51.59`	`Valentines`	`I need some external testing`
`04:52.06`	`mishehu`	`Valentines: when did you make changes?`
`04:52.19`	`Valentines`	`Well, we added a new server on NAC`
`04:52.26`	`Valentines`	`I think Peer1 might be dropped`
`04:52.29`	`Valentines`	`But I'll have to see`
`04:52.30`	`mishehu`	`we just called 'Nam a few min again.`
`04:52.34`	`Valentines`	`I know`
`04:52.35`	`Valentines`	`I saw!`
`04:52.36`	`mishehu`	`err ago`
`04:52.43`	`mishehu`	`and it went thru on the first try.`
`04:52.46`	`Valentines`	`=)`
`04:52.47`	`mishehu`	`how odd. ;-)`
`04:52.59`	`mishehu`	`(usually that communist phone system that borks)`
`04:53.04`	`Valentines`	`Can I get you to make a test call to yourself (which will be busy and not cost anything)?`
`04:53.13`	`mishehu`	`sure.`
`04:53.16`	`Valentines`	`Thanks!!`
`04:53.19`	`mishehu`	`do I need to change anything on my side?`
`04:53.24`	`Valentines`	`Yeah, just one thing`
`04:53.31`	`Valentines`	`The server`
`04:55.18`	`*** join/#asterisk Fpl (~Fpl@200.93.34.214)`
`04:56.10`	`Fpl`	`hi !! everyone.. i am trying to make my TDM 1 fxs por to work, but i cannot get Dialtone`
`04:56.38`	`Fpl`	`i think is the kernel i have but i am not sure.`
`04:56.47`	`Fpl`	`any ideas on this ?`
`04:56.54`	`Fpl`	`i have kernel 2.4.20-8`
`04:57.42`	`Fpl`	`anyone around ?`
`04:57.52`	`YoYo`	`nope, they're all hiding from us :(`
`04:57.59`	`lilneon`	`hey can u run gnugk and asterisk(as the gateway) on the same box??`
`04:58.13`	`Fpl`	`yoyo : why /`
`04:58.22`	`YoYo`	`Fpl: I wish I knew`
`04:58.32`	`Fpl`	`yoyo : this sucks !`
`04:58.46`	`coppice`	`mishehu: much of SS7 is only used by backbone people, or people with special needs, but most of SS7 is used somewhere`
`04:58.51`	`lilneon`	`yeah FPL it does..`
`04:59.04`	`coppice`	`most people only need a modest subset of SS7, though`
`04:59.10`	`mishehu`	`coppice: what is so "nice" about ss7?`
`04:59.17`	`Fpl`	`yoyo lilneon : any of u know what kernel one needs for the zaptel ?`
`05:00.20`	`coppice`	`mishehu: when you get big you want SS7. In some places for regulatory reasons anyone who has some kind of telco status needs to use SS7`
`05:00.20`	`lilneon`	`i don't think it matterz fpl that kernel is redhat 8/9 no?..`
`05:00.20`	`argos73`	`fpl: running 2.4.22 right now, but did have * working under 2.4.20`
`05:00.20`	`YoYo`	`Fpl: yours should work fine`
`05:00.20`	`*** join/#asterisk SyndIcate (~jason@204.233.211.116)`
`05:00.20`	`YoYo`	`what do you see when you run ztcfg -vvv`
`05:00.21`	`Fpl`	`i am not getting dial tone`
`05:00.24`	`SyndIcate`	`yoyooyoyoyoyoyo`
`05:00.27`	`YoYo`	`Synd, who the hell invited you here?`
`05:00.37`	`lilneon`	`lol calm down yoyo.`
`05:00.38`	`mishehu`	`coppice: understood, but what I was really wanting to know, is what does ss7 do for such entities on a technical level`
`05:00.47`	`YoYo`	`lilneon?`
`05:00.49`	`SyndIcate`	`lol`
`05:01.09`	`lilneon`	`FPL try dmesg.. see if the fxs was actually installed..`
`05:01.21`	`lilneon`	`yeah yoyo..`
`05:01.22`	`Fpl`	`yoyo : i get 2 channels configured : channel 1 -- fxs elstart (slaves 1), channel 02 FXO Kewlstart`
`05:01.38`	`SyndIcate`	`yoyo: hows the biz?`
`05:01.44`	`YoYo`	`Fpl: ok, does asterisk start without complaint?`
`05:01.57`	`Fpl`	`yes`
`05:01.58`	`YoYo`	`Synd: struggling, but going ok`
`05:02.12`	`YoYo`	`Fpl: and when you pick up the handset, what do you see in the asterisk console?`
`05:02.37`	`Fpl`	`nothing`
`05:02.45`	`Fpl`	`nothing happens..i get no dialtone`
`05:02.54`	`coppice`	`mishehu: the reason you want it if you are big is that is completely separates signalling from voice paths. ISDN partly does that, but SS7 goes further`
`05:02.57`	`YoYo`	`Fpl: ok... in asterisk, do this: zap show channels`
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`05:03.13`	`YoYo`	`mario*CLI> zap show channels`
`05:03.13`	`YoYo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:03.13`	`YoYo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:03.13`	`YoYo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:03.13`	`YoYo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:03.13`	`YoYo`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:03.18`	`SyndIcate`	`yoyo: we just starting selling * services to our customers`
`05:03.47`	`YoYo`	`oh? such as?`
`05:03.47`	`Fpl`	`i get pseudo home`
`05:03.51`	`Fpl`	`1 bell`
`05:03.52`	`Fpl`	`2 home`
`05:03.53`	`coppice`	`mishehu: ISDN is basically a subset of SS7. Many of the messages, and the call control model is the same`
`05:04.23`	`mishehu`	`coppice: but in a VoIP environment, is ss7 still useful?`
`05:04.27`	`SyndIcate`	`virual pbx .. setting up a 8phone office this weekend`
`05:04.36`	`YoYo`	`coppice: that's a bit simplistic, isn't it?`
`05:04.37`	`coppice`	`its mostly for interconnect`
`05:05.10`	`YoYo`	`synd: very cool... what are you running * on?`
`05:05.12`	`coppice`	`YoYo: are you one of those "ss7 is super complex and wonderful" people? :-)`
`05:05.42`	`JamesDotCom`	`why yoyo?`
`05:05.44`	`mishehu`	`YoYo: what's to be discouraged about?`
`05:05.51`	`YoYo`	`coppice: no... but the comparison of ss7 to ISDN was a bit simplistic, woudln't you agree?`
`05:06.01`	`coppice`	`what's wrong with linux SMP (except USB, keyboards and mice with 2.6)?`
`05:06.06`	`SyndIcate`	`3Ghz`
`05:06.16`	`coppice`	`YoYo: No. ISDN really is a subset of SS7`
`05:06.25`	`fearnor`	`think of SS7 as BGP for telephony.`
`05:06.37`	`YoYo`	`mish: two SMP boxes, one running 2.4.25, the other running 2.6.5. both will stall for minutes at a time`
`05:06.43`	`mishehu`	`and in north america, ISDN still stands for "It Still Does Nothing"`
`05:06.46`	`fearnor`	`how carriers interconnect.`
`05:06.48`	`YoYo`	`like, I log in, do a 'ps aux'`
`05:06.51`	`YoYo`	`I get 3 lines`
`05:06.51`	`fearnor`	`mishehu: only BRI :)`
`05:06.55`	`mishehu`	`cuz they never made any effort to push it out.`
`05:06.57`	`YoYo`	`then 5 minutes later, the rest come pouring out`
`05:06.59`	`mishehu`	`fearnor: nod`
`05:06.59`	`fearnor`	`yo: you are doing something wrong.`
`05:07.14`	`fearnor`	`i have hundreds of boxes with SMP, not a problem.`
`05:07.24`	`fearnor`	`Problem Between Chair and Keyboard`
`05:07.44`	`YoYo`	`fearnor: also, one box has two intel nics, both supported by the FXP driver under FreeBSD`
`05:08.06`	`mishehu`	`YoYo: I've used smp on dual and quad boxes before, never experienced that problem.`
`05:08.08`	`YoYo`	`linux doesn't seem to want to load htem with either intel driver (e100 or eepro100)`
`05:08.29`	`*** join/#asterisk jayden (~ircatjerr@adsl-68-73-53-194.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net)`
`05:09.11`	`mishehu`	`sounds like a hardware problem or a PBC&K`
`05:09.16`	`coppice`	`YoYo: I've seem quirky freezes on a couple of boxes. On all others its very smooth. I think there may be some compatibility problems with some M/Bs`
`05:09.31`	`YoYo`	`mish: neither... both boxes worked flawlessly under FreeBSD 4-STABLE`
`05:09.36`	`mishehu`	`YoYo: "Buy a Mac"`
`05:10.00`	`YoYo`	`mish: no... it's more like "wait for maxim to finish porting zaptel to FreeBSD"`
`05:10.27`	`mishehu`	`I'm not a Mac person, so it drives me up the wall anytime a Mac person says "Get a Mac" whenever you mention some sort of a problem.`
`05:10.38`	`mishehu`	`"My toaster burnt my toast!" 'Get a Mac!'`
`05:11.14`	`mishehu`	`YoYo: what distro did you install, and did you build the kernel or just use a stock kernel from your distro?`
`05:11.25`	`argos73`	`YoYo: which chip on those cards? 8255x? run a lot of fxp cards on both fbsd & linux machines - normally no problems, but weird IRQ "things" have caused issues`
`05:11.31`	`fearnor`	`define "load them"`
`05:12.03`	`mishehu`	`I use 8225x's on all my equipment here.`
`05:12.18`	`fearnor`	`99% of 'this distro sux' or 'this os sux' are attributable to "i'm not smart enough to use it and I refuse to try to figure out how I am wrong".`
`05:12.27`	`fearnor`	`everything is usable, and everything sucks.`
`05:12.46`	`YoYo`	`argos: I have no clue... but I do know that fxp has /never/ balked at any intel nic I've thrown at it`
`05:12.54`	`sudoer2`	`are websites allowed to store customer's credit cards?`
`05:12.56`	`YoYo`	`and I been using the things for like 8 or 9 years now`
`05:13.03`	`fearnor`	`yes sudoer.`
`05:13.05`	`fearnor`	`duh.`
`05:13.29`	`sudoer2`	`my friend said cant while i said can, just confirming`
`05:13.49`	`YoYo`	`but, to be fair, linux has always behaved well with realtek nics, whereas I did have problems under fbsd at one time (think when it was first introduced)`
`05:14.12`	`*** join/#asterisk file[laptop] (~file_lapt@mctn1-2452.nb.aliant.net)`
`05:14.18`	`fearnor`	`i have not had a problem with any nic under linux.`
`05:14.26`	`fearnor`	`not even the historically known as shitty`
`05:14.40`	`fearnor`	`like via rhine or realtek 8139/etc`
`05:14.53`	`coppice`	`YoYo: I use lots of intel 100 and 1000 nics with linux, including SMP. no problems. USB with SMP and linux 2.6 is anoother matter :-(`
`05:15.06`	`fearnor`	`who cares about USB.`
`05:15.12`	`fearnor`	`usb is for my mama's desktop.`
`05:15.20`	`coppice`	`i do`
`05:15.48`	`fearnor`	`why?`
`05:15.59`	`sudoer2`	`plus bsd is better than linux`
`05:16.16`	`coppice`	`because I want to use USB and a keyboard at the same time. is that asking too much?`
`05:16.27`	`fearnor`	`why aren't you running windows on desktop.`
`05:16.33`	`fearnor`	`they seem to have these problems licked.`
`05:16.48`	`coppice`	`2.4 had them licked as well.`
`05:16.52`	`fearnor`	`i'm sure you can use usb and keyboard at same time with linux`
`05:17.04`	`*** part/#asterisk lilneon (~tj_r3@200.108.19.83)`
`05:17.05`	`fearnor`	`it just evades me how. i gave up on linux desktop years ago`
`05:17.16`	`fearnor`	`when it comes to my desktop, i want it to just freaking WORK`
`05:17.21`	`fearnor`	`and windows just does that.`
`05:17.27`	`coppice`	`with a single CPU its OK. with SMP up to 2.6.9final its still problematic`
`05:18.28`	`coppice`	`fearnor: and windows just works? I've never had that experience. hours of pain and misery is my usual experience with that crap. however troublesome linux gets its only a fraction of the pain of using windows`
`05:19.22`	`Silik0n`	`you know thats the whole problem with linux on the desktop... people who wanna screw with ti all the time dont mind it or like it. but people who need to get real work done dont wanna deal with it all the time (unless that real work is coding or supporting their server platforms) then most of them still use a win desktop and run {insert your favorite ssh client here}`
`05:19.31`	`fearnor`	`bingo, silikon.`
`05:19.36`	`argos73`	`heh - finally convinced Da Prez at work that "I Was Right" when I started putting freebsd on the desktop... :)`
`05:19.38`	`fearnor`	`my windows PC is a dumb terminal, really.`
`05:19.47`	`fearnor`	`and a word processor`
`05:20.07`	`Silik0n`	`hell I'm a BSD FIEND... but my main peecee on muh desktop is a XP Pro box with about 1/2dozen putty sessions and opera`
`05:20.18`	`Silik0n`	`exactly fearnor`
`05:20.42`	`coppice`	`my windows noteboook is just plain dumb`
`05:21.40`	`coppice`	`why can't I use a serial port any more? the only ones I can use now are USB to serial. I haven't found one with a driver that works. is windows so bloody easy?`
`05:21.47`	`fearnor`	`yes.`
`05:22.09`	`fearnor`	`shit tends to work on windows the first time around far more often than it does on linux.`
`05:22.10`	`coppice`	`I mean on windows. On linux the USB serial devices are fine`
`05:22.16`	`Silik0n`	`hah nothing like a windows laptop and teraterm for working on routers`
`05:22.51`	`coppice`	`faernor: that is not my experience`
`05:22.57`	`fearnor`	`anyway.`
`05:23.07`	`fearnor`	`anyone with tdmoe clue here?`
`05:23.13`	`fearnor`	`and/or zapras clue.`
`05:23.18`	`mishehu`	`coppice: I use 2.6.8.1 on a machine with a usb keyboard, mouse, an ati radeon wonder remote, and sometimes another usb device plugged in. never had a problem with that machine.`
`05:24.35`	`coppice`	`typical new windows gadget usually means hours spent trying to find a driver update that might hang together for more than 5 minutes. if it says it is MS certified it is almost certainly totally useless, as it will have been certified while most of the serious bugs were still in it.`
`05:24.41`	`coppice`	`mishehu: SMP?`
`05:25.20`	`mishehu`	`coppice: oh, missed that detail when reading what you wrote.`
`05:25.28`	`mishehu`	`no, uniproc machine.`
`05:25.33`	`mishehu`	`I don't have 2.6 on any of the smp's`
`05:25.38`	`Fpl`	`yoyo : no dialtone still`
`05:25.45`	`mishehu`	`as the smp's are production servers.`
`05:25.50`	`coppice`	`if I boot a single processor kernel on this machine it works oK`
`05:26.13`	`mishehu`	`and there's no reason to put 2.6.x on until reiser4 becomes a part of the standard kernel tree.`
`05:26.26`	`fearnor`	`to hell with reiser`
`05:26.36`	`mishehu`	`fearnor: reiser is good.`
`05:26.40`	`fearnor`	`again, i have no interest helping people debug shit.`
`05:26.45`	`fearnor`	`reiser is for people who like gentoo.`
`05:26.46`	`Silik0n`	`ufs works just fine for me`
`05:26.54`	`fearnor`	`see www.funroll-loops.org`
`05:27.06`	`Fpl`	`asterisk no dialtone`
`05:27.15`	`mishehu`	`fearnor: I'd venture to say that reiser exists longer than gentoo`
`05:27.33`	`mishehu`	`and was/is the default fs for suse... not that I use suse.`
`05:27.44`	`fearnor`	`sure. by/for same crowd of people who like gentoo.`
`05:27.53`	`Fpl`	`can someone help me ;;;;;;;-)`
`05:27.53`	`fearnor`	`LOOK DUDE, MY FILESYSTEM IS FASTER THAN YOURS!`
`05:28.25`	`fearnor`	`"eh sure if shit breaks, fsck will not help, but hell, LOOK HOW SMALL ARE TINY FILES ARE"`
`05:28.38`	`mishehu`	`fearnor: I've not had any shit break.`
`05:28.57`	`fearnor`	`mishehu, i made a mistake of building a newsfeed/newsread array with reiser`
`05:29.12`	`fearnor`	`~5TB of space or so`
`05:29.35`	`fearnor`	`then one disk crapped out`
`05:29.45`	`fearnor`	`and reiserfsck threw up its hands and said "fuck you"`
`05:29.50`	`mishehu`	`what type of array was it?`
`05:29.58`	`fearnor`	`and i said "fuck you too, hans"`
`05:30.14`	`mishehu`	`I'm sure it really said "fuck you"`
`05:30.16`	`fearnor`	`mishehu: raid 5, but had ibm shittydrive ;P`
`05:30.25`	`mishehu`	`ibm aka hitachi`
`05:30.57`	`coppice`	`mishehu: there are many reasons to want 2.6`
`05:31.11`	`Silik0n`	`i can verify that reiser is default for suse... i'm a old school novell guy and my * box runs suse8.2 pro`
`05:31.17`	`mishehu`	`coppice: there are, but it doesn't seem stable enough yet for a production server.`
`05:31.38`	`fearnor`	`i have no love for things that are not stable`
`05:31.42`	`coppice`	`i'm developing, not producing :-)`
`05:31.45`	`fearnor`	`except for asterisk :P`
`05:32.09`	`coppice`	`if its stable manure, I still have no love for it :-)`
`05:32.10`	`mishehu`	`alright, time to go get some sleep.`
`05:32.18`	`Silik0n`	`i get enuff astable software at work when clients call cause their windows servers crashed again heh`
`05:32.19`	`mishehu`	`ext3 is stable manure.`
`05:32.21`	`mishehu`	`heh.`
`05:32.39`	`mishehu`	`and horseshit is also stable manure, just a different kind of stable`
`05:33.00`	`fearnor`	`ext3 rocks. mostly because ext2fsck works.`
`05:33.10`	`fearnor`	`anyway.`
`05:33.56`	`mishehu`	`blah blah filesystem troll`
`05:36.54`	`ZX81`	`trolls have filesystems?`
`05:37.14`	`debaser`	`ntfs baby`
`05:37.17`	`Silik0n`	`yeah well everyone knows $MYDISTRO and $MYFILESYSTEM is better then $YOURDISTRO & $YOURFILESYSTEM`
`05:37.22`	`ZX81`	`8P`
`05:38.03`	`Silik0n`	`os400's db2fs > *`
`05:38.27`	`ZX81`	`8P nicccccccceeeeeee`
`05:38.41`	`debaser`	`i smoke crack for fun and profit`
`05:39.02`	`fearnor`	`crack > *`
`05:39.07`	`ZX81`	`yhow do you make profit from smoking it?`
`05:39.16`	`debaser`	`very carefully`
`05:39.20`	`ZX81`	`k`
`05:39.22`	`debaser`	`i think i need to drink more.`
`05:39.29`	`ZX81`	`yup`
`05:39.50`	`fearnor`	`step 1. smoke crack. step 2. ???? step 3: profit`
`05:40.18`	`ZX81`	`alex?`
`05:40.32`	`fearnor`	`yep`
`05:40.37`	`ZX81`	`me2`
`05:40.40`	`Vco`	`whoa i was just thinking of smoking crack`
`05:40.49`	`fearnor`	`do i know you?`
`05:40.54`	`ZX81`	`yep`
`05:40.55`	`Vco`	`or rather, wondering if i do, seeing as i can not find addmailbox`
`05:41.00`	`ZX81`	`i'm your local police officer`
`05:41.06`	`ZX81`	`if you live in New Zealand`
`05:41.11`	`fearnor`	`i don't.`
`05:41.16`	`ZX81`	`ah well`
`05:41.21`	`ZX81`	`then i don't know u`
`05:41.24`	`fearnor`	`but shout out to my homies in the kiwi-landia`
`05:41.25`	`ZX81`	`8P`
`05:41.28`	`ZX81`	`sweet`
`05:41.57`	`ZX81`	`got news?`
`05:42.10`	`ZX81`	`what is a ricer?`
`05:42.29`	`ZX81`	`i.e. Gentoo is for Ricers`
`05:42.42`	`fearnor`	`ricer=[usually asian] kids that take a shitty car and put body modifications to make the car look faster than it is.`
`05:42.54`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`05:43.00`	`fearnor`	`like paint it yellow, so it looks faster ;P`
`05:43.04`	`ZX81`	`8P`
`05:43.17`	`fearnor`	`usually this is done with honda civic ;P`
`05:43.30`	`ZX81`	`i though it had to do with either eating rice (asian) or phoenm play on racer`
`05:43.34`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`05:43.48`	`fearnor`	`it is`
`05:43.48`	`JamesDotCom`	`ZX81: where abouts in NZ?`
`05:43.50`	`fearnor`	`both :)`
`05:43.51`	`ZX81`	`ok`
`05:43.53`	`ZX81`	`Dunedin`
`05:43.58`	`ZX81`	`South`
`05:44.01`	`Himeko`	`the car is usually asian`
`05:44.02`	`JamesDotCom`	`ahh`
`05:44.07`	`JamesDotCom`	`i grew up in tauranga`
`05:44.07`	`ZX81`	`u in nz?`
`05:44.10`	`Himeko`	`can't guarantee that about the kids`
`05:44.10`	`ZX81`	`wow cool`
`05:44.12`	`ZX81`	`where now`
`05:44.26`	`JamesDotCom`	`i moved to perth in western australia, and 2 months ago to melbourne`
`05:44.30`	`ZX81`	`sweet`
`05:44.38`	`ZX81`	`You checked out www.sineapps.com?`
`05:44.54`	`ZX81`	`daily asterisk news`
`05:44.54`	`Himeko`	`http`
`05:44.57`	`Himeko`	`wups`
`05:45.00`	`JamesDotCom`	`cant say i have :D`
`05:45.00`	`ZX81`	`or rss`
`05:45.03`	`ZX81`	`do`
`05:45.05`	`ZX81`	`it's mine`
`05:45.07`	`ZX81`	`:-)`
`05:45.07`	`*** join/#asterisk ariel_ (~Ariel@fl-nked-ubr2-c6a-111.miamfl.adelphia.net)`
`05:45.15`	`Himeko`	`http://members.shaw.ca/himeko/gotrice.jpg`
`05:45.19`	`ZX81`	`7-8K hits per day`
`05:45.38`	`ZX81`	`lol ok`
`05:45.39`	`JamesDotCom`	`what's the internet like over in NZ?`
`05:45.39`	`ZX81`	`i see`
`05:45.43`	`ZX81`	`shiz`
`05:45.44`	`JamesDotCom`	`i'd almost consider moving back`
`05:45.44`	`JamesDotCom`	`hehe`
`05:46.18`	`*** join/#asterisk blankman (~blankman@h000d88a1570c.ne.client2.attbi.com)`
`05:47.44`	`fearnor`	`hmm`
`05:47.49`	`fearnor`	`anyone has that last phone from sipura?`
`05:47.51`	`fearnor`	`sp-841`
`05:47.58`	`fearnor`	`it seems like its not very gay`
`05:48.29`	`fearnor`	`and could potentially be a business phone`
`05:48.51`	`fearnor`	`yo zx`
`05:48.59`	`fearnor`	`you use adsi phones?`
`05:50.04`	`fearnor`	`i uh...came upon on a list of 30+ security codes for various adsi phones`
`05:50.05`	`Silik0n`	`fearnor gotta url for that fone?`
`05:50.20`	`Silik0n`	`the sp-841 that is`
`05:50.36`	`fearnor`	`http://www.sipura.com/Documents/SipuraPressRelease007.pdf`
`05:50.40`	`fearnor`	`not even their website has it.`
`05:51.00`	`Silik0n`	`yeah I was just looking there`
`05:51.17`	`Silik0n`	`i need to find a good budget business grade sip fone`
`05:51.28`	`fearnor`	`i've looked hard and low`
`05:51.36`	`fearnor`	`i coudn't find anything usable for less than 200$ a pop`
`05:51.48`	`fearnor`	`i stick to using ADSI and a channel bank.`
`05:52.15`	`fearnor`	`adsi is the bomb. ;)`
`05:52.31`	`fearnor`	`i maintain that ADSI is the way it all should have been done`
`05:52.40`	`fearnor`	`putting IP stack on a phone was dumbest idea ever.`
`05:53.05`	`Silik0n`	`possibly... but they never deployed ISDN the way they should have either`
`06:00.45`	`*** join/#asterisk scardinal (~supreme@port816.ds1-suoe.adsl.cybercity.dk)`
`06:02.12`	`ZX81`	`OY`
`06:02.17`	`ZX81`	`I got html url`
`06:02.20`	`ZX81`	`if you want`
`06:02.22`	`ZX81`	`was aaway so`
`06:02.22`	`*** join/#asterisk BurnedOutGeek (~mark@66.191.172.161)`
`06:02.24`	`ZX81`	`ysoz`
`06:02.28`	`ZX81`	`you still want?`
`06:02.32`	`ZX81`	`for sp841?`
`06:02.40`	`BurnedOutGeek`	`has ANYONE gotten this damned Zaptel driver to compile?`
`06:02.47`	`Silik0n`	`yeah`