irclog2html for #asterisk on 20040903

`00:00.18`	`jake__`	`I have an ITX box with no fan, no hard drive netbooting off of another louder mini-itx which is in the closet`
`00:01.10`	`Darwin35`	`change out the power supply for a power brick and you can quiet that itx down`
`00:01.22`	`jake__`	`can't beat the 90 watts of power either`
`00:01.37`	`pfn`	`netboot is interesting`
`00:01.43`	`pfn`	`I'd like to make my next firewall netboot, maybe`
`00:01.47`	`jake__`	`Darwin35: the other one has a standard 1U power supply, pretty loud`
`00:01.54`	`pfn`	`why should I even have to load it up with a flash rom....`
`00:02.03`	`*** part/#asterisk DrRighteous (SystemLoad@ool-435710b6.dyn.optonline.net)`
`00:02.08`	`Darwin35`	`wow ok`
`00:02.14`	`Darwin35`	`that is loud`
`00:02.18`	`jake__`	`yeah :-/`
`00:02.24`	`jake__`	`I didn't realize when I bought it`
`00:02.35`	`jake__`	`but it'll drive a decent 3.5" hard drive`
`00:02.37`	`Darwin35`	`I am about to make a all wood case for my mini itx`
`00:02.38`	`pfn`	`server power supplies are always loud....`
`00:02.47`	`pfn`	`wood case? heh`
`00:02.48`	`jake__`	`and doesn't take much space in the closet :)`
`00:03.07`	`Darwin35`	`back to my issue of no audio its also happening on my nano itx`
`00:03.15`	`jake__`	`heh`
`00:03.20`	`pfn`	`30U would be enough to accomodate a few servers`
`00:03.23`	`jake__`	`my GF has lots of clothes`
`00:03.25`	`pdk`	`heh, I have to 42u racks in the basement`
`00:03.27`	`jake__`	`no room for a rack`
`00:03.29`	`pfn`	`shit, I have a lot of clothes :p`
`00:03.37`	`pfn`	`that plus ventilation in a closet would suck`
`00:03.58`	`*** join/#asterisk shido6 (~greg@d57-83-90.home.cgocable.net)`
`00:03.59`	`jake__`	`the 600mhz via epia boxes are pretty slow too`
`00:04.03`	`Joe_Cool`	`you've just got to have a setup that doesn't mind a 110 F room temp`
`00:04.20`	`Maveric`	`hmm`
`00:04.27`	`jake__`	`works ok as a TV though with a TV card`
`00:04.35`	`Darwin35`	`they where ment to be nothing but workstations`
`00:04.46`	`*** join/#asterisk zoa (~hot@213.219.141.161.adslpower.by.edpnet.be)`
`00:05.17`	`jake__`	`I'm getting an lcd project for it, thatll be swee`
`00:05.19`	`jake__`	`y`
`00:05.20`	`jake__`	`t`
`00:05.47`	`Darwin35`	`well since no one has a idea about no outbound audio my pbx is on hold`
`00:05.59`	`Darwin35`	`I cant make a new flash till I fix it`
`00:06.38`	`Darwin35`	`we have 5.x drivers you should try them`
`00:06.49`	`jake__`	`does it compile on 4.x?`
`00:06.52`	`Darwin35`	`I will send you what we have`
`00:06.58`	`pfn`	`I have an lcd projector`
`00:06.59`	`Darwin35`	`doont know`
`00:07.00`	`pfn`	`I want a new projector`
`00:07.04`	`pfn`	`like a sanyo z2`
`00:07.04`	`jake__`	`phk did some rotiling recently...`
`00:07.28`	`pfn`	`darwin if you have a problem with outbound audio, it's probably your nat`
`00:07.38`	`pfn`	`tcpdump on both sides of the divide and see what you get`
`00:10.31`	`jake__`	`Darwin35: I had to change all the struct cdev * back to dev_t in the ports/misc/zaptel port`
`00:11.11`	`*** join/#asterisk jasonk (~kiyoshi14@69.2.253.242)`
`00:11.48`	`*** join/#asterisk tom1234 (~tom@adsl-68-255-73-163.dsl.lgtpmi.ameritech.net)`
`00:11.52`	`jake__`	`Darwin35: I got it to compile but its a kld, don't know if it will link`
`00:12.41`	`tom1234`	`Hi. I have what may amount to a stupid question. I have asterisk setup thru nufone. I need to do some dial-up networking for work and dial into a client's system. Is there some kind of softphone or something that I could use to acheive this end? Thank You!`
`00:12.58`	`pfn`	`it's a very unclear question`
`00:13.07`	`pfn`	`you mean you wanna dial up through a modem?`
`00:13.10`	`pfn`	`don't count on it`
`00:13.23`	`tom1234`	`Yes, but I don't have access to a POTS line, just my VoIP thru nufone.`
`00:13.34`	`tom1234`	`and I don't have any kind of FXS interface.`
`00:13.44`	`pfn`	`dialup over voip is extremely unreliable`
`00:14.02`	`pfn`	`it's called voip for a reason`
`00:14.07`	`tom1234`	`I do realize that, but I NEED to get thru and I have no other options... At least it maybe something.....`
`00:14.10`	`pdk`	`dialup+`
`00:14.35`	`pfn`	`find someone on a pots line with a modem you can use`
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`00:14.47`	`pfn`	`that is your option`
`00:14.59`	`tom1234`	`So, in other words, I'm out of luck, and no such softphone exists?`
`00:14.59`	`pfn`	`or get the client to grant you vpn access`
`00:15.03`	`pfn`	`instead of half-assed modem`
`00:15.18`	`pfn`	`what does softphone have to do with dialup?`
`00:15.24`	`ManxPower`	`What's the diuscount airline that used to be called ValueJet?`
`00:15.31`	`tom1234`	`JetBlue?`
`00:15.36`	`pfn`	`you want a softmodem to work over voip? ain't one`
`00:15.41`	`epoch`	`tom1234: even if you had a modem hooked up to an FXS, you'd have to make sure it was using a codec that doesn't compress`
`00:15.42`	`ManxPower`	`notBel, that's a different one.`
`00:16.06`	`pdk`	`I would be very suprised if dialup worked over voip`
`00:16.10`	`pdk`	`it might at 2400 baud`
`00:16.16`	`epoch`	`right`
`00:16.16`	`pdk`	`if you keep the ms extreemly low`
`00:16.24`	`jasonk`	`sweet 2400 baud`
`00:16.25`	`ManxPower`	`pdk, G729 might. LPC might`
`00:16.26`	`tom1234`	`That's what I wanted to know. Thank you for your time!`
`00:16.46`	`pdk`	`manx, he means he wants dialup over voip, not voip over dialup`
`00:16.55`	`ManxPower`	`Did you know that in the 3rd level of hell the sinners are forced to do VoIP over a dialup modem connection?`
`00:17.09`	`ManxPower`	`Oh. HAHAHAHAHAHA! That's funny.`
`00:17.21`	`jasonk`	`trying to record all calls inbound to * but using monitor in the s extension doesnt seem to work so good`
`00:17.28`	`jasonk`	`any ideas`
`00:17.32`	`ManxPower`	`In the 2nd level of hell they are forced to use softphones.`
`00:17.47`	`pfn`	`jasonk you run monitor everywhere you answer or dial`
`00:17.55`	`epoch`	`ManxPower: pft, softphones aren't so bad`
`00:18.05`	`epoch`	`ManxPower: as long as you have good audio`
`00:18.10`	`jasonk`	`pfn:that is what i thought`
`00:18.16`	`pfn`	`over the last couple of months`
`00:18.21`	`pfn`	`indrectly, of course`
`00:18.21`	`pfn`	`heh`
`00:18.34`	`epoch`	`my dad uses that plantronics usb headset`
`00:18.39`	`epoch`	`it sounds fantastic`
`00:18.53`	`jasonk`	`but having the cmd in the s ext doesnt do anything`
`00:19.23`	`ManxPower`	`AitTran!`
`00:19.23`	`pfn`	`the s extension doesn't mean initial extension`
`00:19.27`	`ManxPower`	`AirTran that is`
`00:19.36`	`*** part/#asterisk bill1 (~Bill1@216.132.69.228)`
`00:19.43`	`jasonk`	`if i put the same syntax line in another extension or in an outbound dialing context it works great`
`00:19.58`	`pfn`	`the s extension doesn't mean initial extension`
`00:20.02`	`pfn`	`it doesn't mean auto-exec`
`00:20.04`	`pfn`	`it doesn't mean any of that`
`00:20.11`	`jasonk`	`doing i know`
`00:20.27`	`jasonk`	`immediate yes in zapata`
`00:20.46`	`jasonk`	`going to context x in extensions`
`00:20.53`	`pfn`	`immediate=yes will send zap channels to s`
`00:21.58`	`jasonk`	`s,1,Answer s,2,Monitor(gsm,Blah,m) s,3,Dial(${DNID)`
`00:22.16`	`jasonk`	`where blah is a variable i also set`
`00:22.22`	`ManxPower`	`Why do you have immediate=yes????`
`00:22.38`	`jasonk`	`got told by someone on the list`
`00:22.47`	`pfn`	`what are you doing with dial dnid`
`00:22.48`	`jasonk`	`emw btw`
`00:23.02`	`jasonk`	`did routing`
`00:23.05`	`ManxPower`	`jasonk, You almost never need immediate=yes`
`00:23.05`	`jasonk`	`to extensions`
`00:23.09`	`pfn`	`that won't work`
`00:23.13`	`pfn`	`...`
`00:23.18`	`zoa`	`http://www.wzl.be/content/index.asp?page=framework&SPID=postdetail&ID=240&DAID=03&MOID=09&YEID=2004 --> have a look at this`
`00:23.21`	`ManxPower`	`jasonk, What type of connection do you have?`
`00:23.22`	`zoa`	`really amazing`
`00:23.36`	`jasonk`	`t-1, em_w`
`00:23.48`	`jasonk`	`connection works great`
`00:23.57`	`Maveric`	`what is he using immediate=yes for?`
`00:24.01`	`jasonk`	`just trying to add the call recording`
`00:24.07`	`Darwin35`	`(^$%&$&^%)(&_))(^&^%#%$I&^PO`
`00:24.19`	`jasonk`	`maverick:got told to add it`
`00:24.19`	`Maveric`	`jasonk that just extensions.conf stuff`
`00:24.23`	`ManxPower`	`jasonk, I still think you don't need immediate=yes, but I'm not sure.`
`00:24.29`	`Maveric`	`he doesn't`
`00:24.32`	`Maveric`	`i don't use it`
`00:24.37`	`Maveric`	`and i do call recording`
`00:24.44`	`ManxPower`	`Maveric, do you have T-1/E&M Wink?`
`00:24.50`	`Maveric`	`nein`
`00:24.53`	`Maveric`	`i use a pri`
`00:24.57`	`jasonk`	`have tried it both ways and without has caused some intermittant issues with missing digits`
`00:25.03`	`ManxPower`	`jasonk t-1, em_w`
`00:25.55`	`ManxPower`	`jasonk, Watch the CLI and see what's happening. If you see Asterisk run Monitor then it's working and the options you are feeding Monitor are screwed up.`
`00:26.23`	`jasonk`	`cli doesnt report executing monitor even when it works`
`00:26.40`	`jasonk`	`outbound calls all seem to be recording fine`
`00:26.59`	`ManxPower`	`jasonk, asterisk -rvvv`
`00:27.05`	`*** join/#asterisk gambolputty (~gambolput@cblmdm204-118-177-213.buckeye-express.com)`
`00:27.18`	`ManxPower`	`the CLI will show you ANY app that's run.`
`00:27.21`	`jasonk`	`manx:gives even more than -vvvvvgcd`
`00:27.35`	`jasonk`	`thought so too but...`
`00:28.05`	`ManxPower`	`jasonk, you've not messed with logger.conf, have you?`
`00:28.29`	`jasonk`	`only way i see via CLI anything is happening is when the ...,m)does the soxmix after the call`
`00:28.51`	`jasonk`	`manx: dont think so`
`00:29.17`	`ManxPower`	`$733 + air fare to attend Astricon. I don't think so.`
`00:29.36`	*** join/#asterisk Blade` (~blade@c-24-8-12-25.client.comcast.net)
`00:29.59`	`zoa`	`ManxPower: for astricon i need 1350$ plane tickets alone`
`00:30.08`	`zoa`	`+ 5 days in the hotel`
`00:30.09`	`jasonk`	`got tiks about a month ago from SLC for 185`
`00:30.16`	`jasonk`	`lucky me`
`00:30.38`	`jasonk`	`got to love living in city with delta hub`
`00:30.39`	`ManxPower`	`It's only $138 for air fare, round trip`
`00:30.46`	`zoa`	`in one week time, i'll spend 24 hours in the air :/`
`00:30.56`	`jasonk`	`poo for you`
`00:31.00`	`pfn`	`I'm spending 30 hours in the air tomorrow`
`00:31.00`	`pfn`	`:p`
`00:31.04`	`pfn`	`well, not quite`
`00:31.06`	`zoa`	`where are you going ?`
`00:31.11`	`pfn`	`21 hours in the air`
`00:31.15`	`pfn`	`and 9 hours in stopovers`
`00:31.35`	`zoa`	`i'm doing sofia -brussel (3 hours)`
`00:31.36`	`ManxPower`	`zoa, Sucks. I was in the air for about 20 hours once. Astricon would never get me to do THAT again. you're crazy`
`00:31.41`	`pfn`	`SFO->HNL->MNL->SGN`
`00:31.46`	`zoa`	`brussels - atlanta 9 hours`
`00:31.51`	`zoa`	`and than the way back`
`00:32.17`	`ManxPower`	`pfn, I was going to Jakarta`
`00:32.46`	`jasonk`	`ultimately trying to avoid doing the recording in the context where my endpoints reside`
`00:32.50`	`ManxPower`	`New Orleans -> LAX -> Singapore -> Jakarta I think. Miserable flights`
`00:33.02`	`Maveric`	`jasonk so don't?`
`00:33.19`	`jasonk`	`in case i want to put this inline with another system`
`00:33.40`	`jasonk`	`maverick:unfort. i CANT MAKE IT WORK`
`00:33.43`	`jasonk`	`sorry`
`00:34.55`	`Maveric`	`how do you want to record?`
`00:34.56`	`pfn`	`heh, in november, I'm flying SFO->SEL->SGN`
`00:34.57`	`Maveric`	`first off`
`00:35.03`	`pfn`	`but I have a 24hr layover in SEL`
`00:35.20`	`pfn`	`and on the way home, I'm flying, SGN->SEL->DFW->SFO`
`00:35.30`	`pfn`	`bleh`
`00:35.54`	`ManxPower`	`SEL?`
`00:35.57`	`pfn`	`seoul`
`00:36.00`	`ManxPower`	`Ah`
`00:36.01`	`crazy1`	`has anybody had success getting their FWD number to forward to their Asterisk server?`
`00:36.23`	`jasonk`	`maverick:format or cmd or ?`
`00:36.35`	`Maveric`	`crazy1 you don't forward`
`00:36.37`	`pfn`	`crazy1 nope, it's never been done, it's impossible!!!`
`00:36.42`	`pfn`	`aaahhhhhhh oooohhh noooooo`
`00:37.01`	`Maveric`	`you have your asterisk server register to fwd`
`00:37.06`	`crazy1`	`hmm. FWD has an account option where you can forward incoming calls to another SIP url`
`00:37.20`	`Maveric`	`jasonk like you want this one did to be recorded`
`00:37.26`	`crazy1`	`i have registered my asterisk server to FWD`
`00:37.28`	`Maveric`	`just explain the scenario`
`00:37.33`	`jasonk`	`maverick:no all calls`
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`00:37.52`	`Maveric`	`then why not put it in the end points context?`
`00:38.24`	`Maveric`	`you start the recording where your did routing begins at the incoming context`
`00:38.46`	`Maveric`	`it then passes to your other contexts with gotos`
`00:39.03`	`Maveric`	`and then it stops when they hangup with the h, exten`
`00:39.12`	`pfn`	`exten => _XXXX,1,Monitor... => _XXXX,2,Dial(${EXTEN})`
`00:39.16`	`pfn`	`why bother with the DNID stuff`
`00:39.19`	`Maveric`	`its really not that complicated`
`00:39.36`	`*** join/#asterisk robf (~robf@68.184.208.246.charter-stl.com)`
`00:39.38`	`Maveric`	`pfn he wants to record`
`00:39.46`	`pfn`	`that's what the 1,Monitor is :p`
`00:39.47`	`Maveric`	`all calls`
`00:40.10`	`Maveric`	`but why would you want to put that in ever dial exten?`
`00:40.15`	`Maveric`	`ever=every`
`00:40.20`	`pfn`	`that goes into the incoming context from the T1`
`00:40.42`	`Maveric`	`exactly`
`00:40.49`	`Maveric`	`thats what i said in the first place`
`00:41.17`	`Maveric`	`but i'd have it pass with goto statements`
`00:41.32`	`Maveric`	`to his sip or whatever clients`
`00:41.43`	`Maveric`	`that way in the future he can easily change who gets what phone numbers`
`00:42.19`	`Maveric`	`pfn what kinda asterisk server do you manage?`
`00:42.22`	`Maveric`	`a home one?`
`00:42.25`	`Maveric`	`or for work?`
`00:42.33`	`pfn`	`I have a home one and office one`
`00:42.39`	`pfn`	`small office, though`
`00:42.42`	`Maveric`	`how many clients at the office?`
`00:42.47`	`pfn`	`only 4 or 5`
`00:42.49`	`Maveric`	`ok`
`00:43.00`	`Maveric`	`when you have like 70-80 inbound did's`
`00:43.07`	`jasonk`	`my reall prob is that i cant figure why this doesnt work s,1,SetVar(CALLFILENAME=${DNID}-${TIMESTAMP} s,2,Monitor(gsm,${CALLFILENAME} s,3,Dial(${DNID})`
`00:43.11`	`Maveric`	`it can get complicated`
`00:43.12`	`pfn`	`I still don't see me liking gotos :p`
`00:43.27`	`jasonk`	`me neither`
`00:43.38`	`Maveric`	`you may not like them but they are very neccisary`
`00:43.41`	`pfn`	`well, Dial(${DNID}) isn't going to work`
`00:43.46`	`jasonk`	`seems to`
`00:44.01`	`jasonk`	`but i will ask why not`
`00:44.14`	`pfn`	`because ${DNID} doesn't include technology`
`00:44.15`	`Maveric`	`jason you want my monitor lines?`
`00:44.33`	`brettnem`	`try Local/${DNID} maybe`
`00:44.40`	`jasonk`	`sure jkkawakami@optellabs.com`
`00:44.43`	`pfn`	`Local/${DNID}@context`
`00:44.49`	`jasonk`	`i can try that`
`00:45.06`	`jasonk`	`but it is dialing the endpoint right now without it`
`00:45.10`	`Maveric`	`4 line flood sorry guys`
`00:45.11`	`Maveric`	`[macro-record-enable]`
`00:45.12`	`Maveric`	`exten => s,1,AGI(set-timestamp.agi)`
`00:45.12`	`Maveric`	`exten => s,2,SetVar(CALLFILENAME=${timestamp}-${CALLERIDNUM}-${MACRO_EXTEN})`
`00:45.12`	`Maveric`	`exten => s,3,Monitor(wav,${CALLFILENAME})`
`00:45.44`	`Maveric`	`i know i don't need the agi any more`
`00:45.52`	`jasonk`	`sure`
`00:45.58`	`pfn`	`changing the physical user associated with a sip user`
`00:46.06`	`pfn`	`or changing the sip user associated with an extension #`
`00:46.22`	`Maveric`	`pfn by far in extensions`
`00:46.34`	`pfn`	`in other words, is it more logical to associate a sip user/peer with the user that owns it, or the extension # (with regard to naming)`
`00:46.38`	`Maveric`	`i have 22 cisco 7960's with 6 lines each`
`00:46.41`	`Maveric`	`and they are not fun`
`00:46.43`	`jake__`	`shit`
`00:46.46`	`Maveric`	`to change information on`
`00:46.55`	`jake__`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:47.00`	`jasonk`	`luv tftp`
`00:47.13`	`pfn`	`you still have to change SIPmacaddr.cnf`
`00:47.21`	`Maveric`	`no you don't`
`00:47.37`	`Maveric`	`you leave your sip registering the same`
`00:47.43`	`Maveric`	`but you change the did thats routed to it`
`00:48.03`	`Maveric`	`at that point you don't even need to put extensions naming the phones`
`00:48.12`	`Maveric`	`i just have a numbering system for phones`
`00:48.17`	`Maveric`	`1101`
`00:48.23`	`Maveric`	`first three digits are the phone`
`00:48.24`	`pfn`	`right`
`00:48.27`	`Maveric`	`last digit is the line on the phone`
`00:49.32`	`scud`	`is VP pretty good service with the sipura?`
`00:49.44`	`scud`	`i'm thinking about getting the unlimited usa plan`
`00:49.47`	`jasonk`	`maveric:so your dialing is handled in your ${MACRO_EXTEN}?`
`00:49.49`	`pfn`	`hmm, is there a lowercase modifier that can be done to a make var...`
`00:49.53`	`Maveric`	`i love this macro :D`
`00:49.54`	`Maveric`	`[macro-spoof-callerid]`
`00:49.55`	`Maveric`	`exten => s,1,Playback(make-caller-id)`
`00:49.55`	`Maveric`	`exten => s,2,Read(NEWCALLERID)`
`00:49.55`	`Maveric`	`exten => s,3,SetCIDNum(${NEWCALLERID},a)`
`00:49.55`	`Maveric`	`exten => s,4,CallingPres(${NEWCALLERID})`
`00:49.59`	`Maveric`	`no jasonk`
`00:50.06`	`Maveric`	`that macro doesn't do dialing at all`
`00:50.15`	`Maveric`	`i just call that macro to start recording`
`00:50.31`	`jasonk`	`i must be missing something`
`00:50.40`	`pfn`	`maveric what bitrate do you encode your mp3 at?`
`00:50.53`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1852,1,Ringing`
`00:50.53`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1852,2,Wait(5)`
`00:50.53`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1852,3,Macro(record-enable)`
`00:50.53`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1852,4,BackGround(for-quality-purposes)`
`00:50.53`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1852,5,BackGround(this-call-may-be)`
`00:50.54`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1852,6,BackGround(recorded)`
`00:50.56`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1852,7,Goto(from-sip,1852,1)`
`00:51.02`	`Maveric`	`its pretty low`
`00:51.07`	`*** join/#asterisk poemius (~poemius@adsl-70-48-192-81.adsl.iam.net.ma)`
`00:51.09`	`pfn`	`how low is low`
`00:51.13`	`pfn`	`lower than gsm? g729?`
`00:51.24`	`Maveric`	`8 kbps and 8 Khz`
`00:51.25`	`jasonk`	`thanks for the help`
`00:51.29`	`*** part/#asterisk jasonk (~kiyoshi14@69.2.253.242)`
`00:51.36`	`*** join/#asterisk bwortley (lucas@202-45-126-237.stabat.com)`
`00:51.47`	`crazy1`	`i told asterisk to register to FWD, i disabled the forwarding feature in my FWD account options, can somebody try and call me at 475478@fwd.pulver.com please?`
`00:51.59`	`Maveric`	`pfn the script that gets run after for the record clean up`
`00:52.06`	`Maveric`	`mixes the wavs`
`00:52.13`	`Maveric`	`then reencodes to mp3`
`00:52.19`	`Maveric`	`8kbps 8Khz`
`00:52.30`	`pfn`	`8kbps, hmmm`
`00:52.54`	`Maveric`	`so i have 309 calls recorded right now`
`00:53.00`	`*** part/#asterisk mr_monkey (~admin@201.128.119.24)`
`00:53.06`	`Maveric`	`and its only 45 megs`
`00:53.13`	`pfn`	`[pfnguyen@ares monitor]$ find . -type f \| wc -l`
`00:53.13`	`pfn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:53.19`	`pfn`	`[pfnguyen@ares monitor]$ du`
`00:53.19`	`pfn`	`373716 .`
`00:53.20`	`pfn`	`heh`
`00:53.24`	`Maveric`	`du -h`
`00:53.31`	`pfn`	`365MB`
`00:53.35`	`Maveric`	`lol`
`00:53.43`	`Maveric`	`8kbps isn't to bad`
`00:53.44`	`pfn`	`then again, that represents... how long of calls`
`00:53.59`	`Maveric`	`we have a lot of really long calls to`
`00:53.59`	`pfn`	`100KB/min`
`00:54.14`	`pfn`	`at least 60 hours`
`00:54.36`	`pfn`	`wav49 is ~100KB/min or so`
`00:54.40`	`bwortley`	`Hi, i have 2 machines running x-lite who are able to call each other using SIP but there is no sound. where should I start looking? I have tried using kphone as well same problem`
`00:54.42`	`*** join/#asterisk jake__ (~jake@205.233.216.243)`
`00:54.50`	`pfn`	`bwortley NAT problems`
`00:55.54`	`bwortley`	`its 2 phones on a local network that are connecting, theres just no sound`
`00:56.08`	`pfn`	`it's still NAT related`
`00:56.18`	`Maveric`	`pfn if i calculated right which i'm pretty sure i did`
`00:56.26`	`Maveric`	`i have 12.8 hours of audio`
`00:56.38`	`Maveric`	`in 45 megs`
`00:56.41`	`pfn`	`maveric sounds about right`
`00:56.46`	`pfn`	`for 60 hours, that'd be roughly 200mb`
`00:56.51`	`pfn`	`a 33% reduction over gsm`
`00:56.55`	`suma`	`i'm trying to play a wav file using *, it gives me the following error`
`00:56.56`	`suma`	`Sep 3 01:21:15 WARNING[229390]: format_wav.c:139 check_header: Not a wav file 7`
`00:56.56`	`suma`	`Sep 3 01:21:15 WARNING[229390]: file.c:406 ast_filehelper: Unable to open fd on /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/callingcards/1/pinprompt.wav`
`00:56.56`	`suma`	`Sep 3 01:21:15 WARNING[229390]: file.c:761 ast_streamfile: Unable to open /var/lib/asterisk/sounds/callingcards/1/pinprompt (format ALAW): No such file or directory`
`00:56.58`	`pfn`	`gsm is 13.3kbps or so, while yours is 8kbps`
`00:57.00`	`suma`	`why is that`
`00:57.12`	`Maveric`	`yeah but this in encoded to mp3`
`00:57.13`	`jake__`	`maybe not`
`00:57.16`	`pfn`	`because it isn't a wav file :p`
`00:57.21`	`Maveric`	`yeah :D`
`00:57.26`	`pfn`	`maveric 8kbps is 8kbps :p`
`00:57.27`	`Maveric`	`why don't you do that pfn?`
`00:57.36`	`Moc`	`I can't the calling card app to access postgresql... damn I hate postgresql !!!`
`00:57.37`	`pfn`	`I haven't gotten around to processing my files yet`
`00:57.42`	`pfn`	`I'll have to consider that`
`00:57.42`	`suma`	`it is playing in media player`
`00:57.46`	`Maveric`	`8kbps mp3 = a lot better then 8kbps wav`
`00:57.50`	`suma`	`and other players`
`00:57.53`	`pfn`	`maybe I'll compress to g729`
`00:58.07`	`pfn`	`I'm trying to do it with the minimum of cpu cycles as well`
`00:58.12`	`bwortley`	`pfn could you please explain in a little more detail`
`00:58.14`	`pfn`	`maintain a balance of both`
`00:58.30`	`pfn`	`bwortley no sound is caused because one or both ends are not receiving the RTP stream`
`00:58.32`	`Maveric`	`pfn well that i don't have a problem`
`00:58.44`	`suma`	`pfn: what is he specification for wav file ?`
`00:58.49`	`Maveric`	`the asterisk server at our office is a dual 3.2 Ghz xeon with 4 gigs of ram`
`00:58.50`	`Maveric`	`lol`
`00:58.58`	`pfn`	`suma file pinprompt.wav`
`00:59.10`	`pfn`	`maveric the other reason is, I don't like the postprocessing...`
`00:59.11`	`sivana`	`Moc, I wrote a new calling card app for MySQL`
`00:59.17`	`pfn`	`just kinda ugly to me`
`00:59.24`	`pfn`	`having to do soxmix is already ugly....`
`00:59.24`	`Maveric`	`it is ugly`
`00:59.29`	`bwortley`	`right, so where should I start looking?`
`00:59.33`	`Maveric`	`i agree with you there`
`00:59.34`	`poemius`	`that's so underpowered, it must crash all the time :)`
`00:59.36`	`pfn`	`bwortley check your network traffic`
`00:59.43`	`Maveric`	`but it works`
`00:59.48`	`pfn`	`maveric and just encoding directly into a lbr format is so attractive`
`01:00.00`	`pfn`	`hmm, so if I monitored to g729, sox probably couldn't mix it`
`01:00.06`	`bwortley`	`pfn, thanks`
`01:00.12`	`Maveric`	`nope pfn`
`01:00.29`	`pfn`	`so gsm or postprocessing are my only options for lbr`
`01:00.39`	`pfn`	`hmm, I'll have to see how mp3'd monitor files sound`
`01:00.59`	`Maveric`	`i don't monitor in mp3`
`01:01.01`	`Maveric`	`you can't`
`01:01.08`	`pfn`	`that's why mp3'd, not mp3 :p`
`01:01.12`	`pfn`	`they're mp3'd after the fact :p`
`01:01.17`	`Maveric`	`ah`
`01:01.18`	`Maveric`	`lol`
`01:01.39`	`Maveric`	`you can still choose your bitrate`
`01:01.46`	`Maveric`	`optimum would be 24kbps`
`01:01.48`	`pfn`	`it'd have to be under 13kbps`
`01:01.50`	`poemius`	`that's actually a good idea`
`01:01.52`	`pfn`	`otherwise, I'd stick to gsm`
`01:02.07`	`Maveric`	`gsm sounds like shit comparted to 24kbps`
`01:02.09`	`Maveric`	`mp3`
`01:02.12`	`pfn`	`at that point, I'd look for the tradeoff point where the mp3'd file sounds as good as gsm`
`01:02.25`	`Maveric`	`gsm makes people sound like robots without nuts`
`01:02.26`	`pfn`	`that may be true, but 24kbps is almost double the bitrate of gsm`
`01:02.30`	`cp5`	`how do i 'echo' data through extension.conf?`
`01:02.36`	`cp5`	`is there a command to do that`
`01:02.41`	`pfn`	`be more specific`
`01:02.42`	`pfn`	`NoOp?`
`01:02.44`	`Maveric`	`so then do mp3 at gsm bitrate`
`01:02.57`	`cp5`	`basically to do nothing, but just print out some data (variables) on the console`
`01:03.03`	`pfn`	`noop`
`01:03.17`	`cp5`	`thanks`
`01:05.32`	`Maveric`	`what would you use that for?`
`01:05.35`	`ManxPower`	`Why not just use GSM?`
`01:06.05`	`Maveric`	`ManxPower personally i think gsm sounds like garbage`
`01:06.17`	`*** join/#asterisk Greyarea (~Greyarea@ip68-2-197-183.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`01:06.18`	`Maveric`	`it makes you sound like your talking into a garbage can`
`01:07.32`	`epoch`	`hrmmm... if I have a PRI with 2 DIDs, is there any way to tell which DID a call came in on?`
`01:08.29`	`Chuji`	`in cdr or in the dialplan?`
`01:08.37`	`epoch`	`in the dialplan`
`01:08.47`	`*** join/#asterisk twisted (~twisted@twisted.active.supporter.pdpc)`
`01:08.47`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+o twisted] by ChanServ`
`01:08.49`	`epoch`	`well, either, I guess`
`01:09.10`	`Maveric`	`you can tell in both`
`01:09.31`	`epoch`	`word... I'm new to PRI, as you can tell :P`
`01:09.41`	`suma`	`how can i store g711 file format in windows ?`
`01:09.58`	`epoch`	`does some variable get set that I can use in extensions.conf?`
`01:10.26`	`Chuji`	`yeah, whatever the telco is sending`
`01:10.28`	`Maveric`	`epoch yes`
`01:10.34`	`Chuji`	`usually 4 digits`
`01:10.45`	`Maveric`	`${EXTEN}`
`01:10.52`	`twisted`	`smokin crack?`
`01:10.53`	`Maveric`	`in your incoming context`
`01:10.55`	`epoch`	`oh!`
`01:10.56`	`Damin`	`epoch: Yep.`
`01:11.07`	`*** join/#asterisk JunK-Y (~junky@modemcable214.88-37-24.mc.videotron.ca)`
`01:11.25`	`Maveric`	`what context= you gave to your pri in zapata.conf`
`01:11.32`	`epoch`	`well, I haven't yet ;)`
`01:11.35`	`Maveric`	`the calls go into that context`
`01:11.37`	`Damin`	`epoch: Check this..`
`01:11.37`	`Damin`	`exten => 2169203022,1,Macro(didexten,100,SIP/100)`
`01:11.37`	`Damin`	`exten => 2169203023,1,Macro(didexten,101,SIP/101)`
`01:11.38`	`Damin`	`exten => 2169203026,1,Macro(didexten,116,SIP/116)`
`01:11.43`	`Maveric`	`they usually have 4 digits`
`01:11.47`	`Maveric`	`you match to those 4 digits`
`01:11.50`	`Maveric`	`for you did`
`01:11.52`	`epoch`	`my T100P doesn't get delivered until tomorrow, and the PRI doesn't get installed until the 10th`
`01:11.59`	`epoch`	`(and it has to work on the 11th) ;/`
`01:12.00`	`Damin`	`Maveric: PRI usually sends a 10 digit number..`
`01:12.13`	`*** join/#asterisk vinko (~vinko@voice.iwobble.com)`
`01:12.15`	`epoch`	`10 digits would obviously be preferable`
`01:12.24`	`Maveric`	`[from-outside1]`
`01:12.24`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1840,1,Goto(eldo,s,1) ; Eldo Main`
`01:12.24`	`Maveric`	`exten => 9607,1,Goto(eldo,s,1) ; Eldo Main`
`01:12.24`	`Maveric`	`exten => 1841,1,Goto(from-sip,8500,1) ; Eldo VoiceMail`
`01:12.25`	`Damin`	`epoch: See my example..`
`01:12.28`	`Maveric`	`like that`
`01:12.35`	`epoch`	`Damin: yeah, that makese perfect sense`
`01:12.53`	`Damin`	`epoch: That goes directly to a SIP extension, but you get the point.`
`01:13.15`	`epoch`	`right`
`01:13.24`	`Damin`	`epoch: You can even do pattern matching ala: exten => _216920308X,1,Dial,IAX2/did@iaxserver/${EXTEN}`
`01:13.42`	`Damin`	`epoch: That matches the range of numbers fro 3080 to 3089.`
`01:14.07`	`Maveric`	`Damin not our pri`
`01:14.46`	`pfn`	`?`
`01:14.49`	`epoch`	`so I gather it varies from telco to telco eh`
`01:15.53`	`Damin`	`Maveric: Then your Telco sucks. :) Tell them they are only sending you 40% of the DNIS that you are supposed to be receiving and only pay them 40% of the bill until they fix it! ;)`
`01:15.53`	`bwortley`	`pfn are the 2 clients supposed to connect directly or is the call tunnled through the asterisk server`
`01:16.11`	`Damin`	`Maveric: You sure you are on PRI and not Channelized T1?`
`01:16.13`	`Maveric`	`lol Damin i have no doubt that the telco sux`
`01:16.14`	`Maveric`	`i hate them`
`01:16.20`	`Maveric`	`Damin i'm sure`
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`01:16.39`	`Greyarea`	`Anyone: Am I the only person that has such a hard time installing ztdummy module on fedora 2? I have the uhci_hcd usb controller :)`
`01:16.42`	`Damin`	`Maveric: Channelized T-1 uses a Last Four DID signalling scheme..`
`01:16.42`	`*** part/#asterisk netghost (~JH@delmar-209-137-161-171-dsl.cavtel.net)`
`01:16.59`	`Maveric`	`eldopbx*CLI> pri show span 1`
`01:16.59`	`Maveric`	`Primary D-channel: 24`
`01:16.59`	`Maveric`	`Status: Provisioned, Up, Active`
`01:16.59`	`Maveric`	`eldopbx*CLI>`
`01:16.59`	`Maveric`	`Switchtype: National ISDN`
`01:17.00`	`Maveric`	`Type: CPE`
`01:17.00`	`Damin`	`Maveric: But it is really telco dependent..`
`01:17.02`	`Maveric`	`Window Length: 0/7`
`01:17.04`	`Maveric`	`Sentrej: 0`
`01:17.06`	`Maveric`	`SolicitFbit: 0`
`01:17.08`	`Maveric`	`Retrans: 0`
`01:17.10`	`Maveric`	`Busy: 0`
`01:17.12`	`Damin`	`Yep. That's a PRI. ;)`
`01:17.12`	`Maveric`	`Overlap Dial: 0`
`01:17.17`	`Maveric`	`yes i know`
`01:17.28`	`Maveric`	`and i do hate the 4 digit matching`
`01:17.33`	`Maveric`	`its quite annoying`
`01:17.45`	`Maveric`	`if i could shoot them i would`
`01:17.51`	`Maveric`	`XO is a horrible telco`
`01:17.53`	`Maveric`	`let me tell you`
`01:18.00`	`twisted`	`HONK`
`01:18.00`	`epoch`	`well I hope my telco isn't gonna suck`
`01:18.12`	`twisted`	`kmc is worse`
`01:18.15`	`twisted`	`HONK HONK`
`01:18.21`	`pdk`	`heh, most telco's suck`
`01:18.21`	`epoch`	`what are you, a mack truck?`
`01:18.23`	`Maveric`	`its funny`
`01:18.30`	`twisted`	`yes`
`01:18.30`	`twisted`	`i am`
`01:18.40`	`twisted`	`and i'm about to plow through the bugtracker again`
`01:18.42`	`pdk`	`that is why you have to hire your own telco guy, to talk and deal with them :(`
`01:18.55`	`epoch`	`heh`
`01:19.03`	`Maveric`	`we have XO for our pri`
`01:19.29`	`epoch`	`well we've managed to embarass our telco into installing a PRI with 10 days' notice (they usually require 15)`
`01:19.45`	`pdk`	`they want 45days here`
`01:19.51`	`epoch`	`so if I have issues with the DNIS, I'll just embarass them more`
`01:19.52`	`Maveric`	`then we have at&t level3 uunet gblx limelight timewarner for our bandwidth`
`01:20.12`	`epoch`	`pdk: yeah, it depends on what kind of physical work is required`
`01:20.13`	`twisted`	`yee haw`
`01:20.13`	`twisted`	`dev*CLI> show channels`
`01:20.13`	`twisted`	`Time Active Channel (Context Extension Pri ) State Appl. Data`
`01:20.13`	`twisted`	`0h55m24s IAX2/production/2 ( s 1 ) Up Bridged Call SIP/Josh7905-bf85`
`01:20.13`	`twisted`	`0h55m24s SIP/Josh7905-bf85 (local 0000 1 ) Up Dial IAX2/dev:prodbox@production/0000@local`
`01:20.15`	`Damin`	`[damin@nucleus damin]$ grep -c astwind-installer xferlog`
`01:20.16`	`twisted`	`2 active channel(s)`
`01:20.16`	`Damin`	`212`
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`01:20.52`	`epoch`	`thankfully this one's going in across the street from the fiber hub for pretty much all of eastern canada`
`01:21.06`	`cp5`	`how come when i do: SetVar(DNID=123), then AGI,some.agi, the DNID variable passed is not what i set?`
`01:21.42`	`Maveric`	`oops i forgoto sprint`
`01:21.45`	`pfn`	`agi doesn't receive channel variables, does it?`
`01:21.46`	`Maveric`	`forgot sprint`
`01:21.54`	`Maveric`	`to many damn ip carriers`
`01:22.00`	`JunK-Y`	`pfn: yes if he does setVar`
`01:22.33`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, DNID is a system variable not available in AGI`
`01:22.49`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: he can do setVar`
`01:22.50`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Try SetVat(MY_DNID=123)`
`01:23.03`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Try SetVar(MY_DNID=123) too`
`01:23.10`	`Maveric`	`lol`
`01:23.16`	`Maveric`	`what up manx`
`01:23.17`	`suma`	`what is the highest quality of sound file which i can give in * ?`
`01:23.24`	`pfn`	`ulaw`
`01:23.25`	`JunK-Y`	`cp5, Try SetVar(DNID=${DNID});`
`01:23.31`	`ManxPower`	`Maveric, Hiya`
`01:23.46`	`cp5`	`ManxPower, still not passed to the AGI`
`01:23.50`	`suma`	`pfn: can you please help me how can i save in that format in windows?`
`01:23.51`	`ManxPower`	`ulaw or alaw is the highest quality Audio in Asterisk. It's the same quality as an analog phone call.`
`01:23.56`	`jake__`	`what do I want in iax.conf for s100i?`
`01:24.04`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, MY_DNID is not passed?`
`01:24.06`	`cp5`	`i am look at the agi_* headers...no my_dnid there`
`01:24.11`	`ManxPower`	`No!`
`01:24.28`	`pfn`	`suma`
`01:24.29`	`pfn`	`~sox`
`01:24.31`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, sox is Sound Processing Tool. URL: http://sox.sourceforge.net/`
`01:24.31`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Use the get variable AGI function.`
`01:24.37`	`pfn`	`gr`
`01:24.37`	`cp5`	`Manx, ahhh ok`
`01:24.40`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Using Asterisk-Perl?`
`01:24.45`	`pfn`	`~sox conversion`
`01:24.52`	`pfn`	`meh`
`01:25.06`	`cp5`	`Manx, sorta kinda (the agi is a c program that tunnels the data to a socket on another server)`
`01:25.09`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Anything coming in on the stdin headers on startup will be system stuff, not variables`
`01:25.16`	`cp5`	`the socket is a perl server using asterisk-perl`
`01:25.16`	`suma`	`pfn: let me look into that`
`01:25.22`	`cp5`	`ManxPower, ahh ok`
`01:25.29`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Well there's a get variable function in asterisk-perl`
`01:25.36`	`cp5`	`ok, i'll use it`
`01:26.04`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Prolly still have to use MY_DNID or something other than plain DNID as the variable name. I don't know for sure.`
`01:26.13`	`Maveric`	`cp5 what are you doing with asterisk-perl?`
`01:26.33`	`cp5`	`ManxPower, ok cool`
`01:26.34`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: he can do setVar(DNID=${DNID}); too`
`01:26.38`	`cp5`	`Maveric, just stuff`
`01:26.53`	`ManxPower`	`JunK-Y, I'm skeptical`
`01:27.09`	`ManxPower`	`but he can try it both ways`
`01:27.26`	`Maveric`	`he always goes both ways from what i hear about cp5`
`01:27.27`	`Maveric`	`lol`
`01:27.32`	`JunK-Y`	`i hope for that bug will be fixed soon.`
`01:28.24`	`cp5`	`....`
`01:33.00`	`cp5`	`ok, i'm doing: exten => s,1,SetVar(NEW_EXT=${ARG1})`
`01:33.34`	`cp5`	`however, get_variable does not return it: 'GET VARIABLE new_ext' '200 result=0'`
`01:33.47`	`cp5`	`i tried uppercasing NEW_EXT as well`
`01:34.00`	`JunK-Y`	`cp5: what are ya tring to do exactly?`
`01:34.18`	`cp5`	`pass the extension being called`
`01:34.39`	`cp5`	`the call comes in, a macro is called, the extension gets set to 's' but i still have it in ${ARG1}`
`01:34.45`	`JunK-Y`	`cp5: have ya tried setVar(EXTEN = ${EXTEN}) ?`
`01:35.16`	`cp5`	`so i want to pass ${ARG1} to the agi is all`
`01:35.31`	`ManxPower`	`JunK-Y, Once he gets it working not using builtins he can try with builtins`
`01:35.33`	`Darwin35`	`we have a udp problem`
`01:35.46`	`Darwin35`	`and with tonights cvs still n ooutbound audio`
`01:35.49`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Uh, AGI(my.agi,${AGR1})`
`01:35.51`	`Darwin35`	`in sip mode`
`01:35.51`	`JunK-Y`	`cp5: to be honest, i didnt play so much with macro.`
`01:36.00`	`JunK-Y`	`passing ?`
`01:36.02`	`JunK-Y`	`its \|`
`01:36.09`	`JunK-Y`	`AGI(my.agi\|${AGR1})`
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`01:36.23`	`Darwin35`	`this is pissing me off`
`01:36.35`	`ManxPower`	`If you want to pass more than argument use AGI(my.agi,${ARG1}&${ARG2}) and then break them apart inside your app.`
`01:37.18`	`cp5`	`i don't want to have to pass it as an argument...isn't there another way?`
`01:37.27`	`ManxPower`	`JunK-Y, The correct format is AGI,my.agi\|${ARG1}) OR AGI(my.agi,${ARG1}) I think you can pretty much mus , and \| however`
`01:37.35`	`cp5`	`the reason being the agi is a c program that is just a simple tunnel`
`01:37.41`	`cp5`	`i don't want to have to make it any more complex`
`01:37.41`	`JunK-Y`	`im using AGI(my.agi\|${ARG1}\|${ARG2})`
`01:37.55`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, I freqently used things I set with setVar from inside my AGIs`
`01:37.56`	`JunK-Y`	`cp5: what are ya wanna use in ur AGI ?`
`01:38.06`	`JunK-Y`	`which var ?`
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`01:38.28`	`cp5`	`Junk-Y, i don't care what variable, i just want to grab a piece of data`
`01:38.48`	`Sp3ciaL_K`	`i'm trying to setup asterisk to connect to iConnect. can someone help?`
`01:38.50`	`cp5`	`ManxPower, 'GET VARIABLE new_ext' '200 result=0'`
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`01:39.02`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Then you are doing something wrong.`
`01:39.06`	`cp5`	`even though i did exten => s,1,SetVar(NEW_EXT=${ARG1})`
`01:39.07`	`tclark`	`cp5: curious if you wrting in c , why use agi and not just make an app so you have access to all natice c strucs`
`01:39.08`	`JunK-Y`	`cp5: ya wanna use ${EXTEN} right ?`
`01:39.09`	`cp5`	`heh`
`01:39.31`	`suma`	`why i could not play .au extension with asterisk ?`
`01:39.40`	`cp5`	`JunK-Y, no, i really don't care at this point`
`01:39.43`	`ManxPower`	`suma, I don't think it supports .au files`
`01:39.50`	`cp5`	`i just want to pass ${ARG1}`
`01:39.52`	`cp5`	`to the agi`
`01:39.56`	`cp5`	`without it being a command line param`
`01:40.12`	`twisted`	`uhm`
`01:40.14`	`suma`	`but it is a ulaw file right ?`
`01:40.15`	`JunK-Y`	`and ${ARG1} is what exactly ?`
`01:40.20`	`twisted`	`what about GET VARIABLE EXTEN`
`01:40.23`	`cp5`	`junk-y, it's a number`
`01:40.23`	`twisted`	`?`
`01:40.35`	`Sp3ciaL_K`	`i tried following the instructions in voip.org but when i try to call out I get a maximum retires exceed on call...`
`01:40.35`	`suma`	`ULAW (pronounced as mu-law)`
`01:40.35`	`suma`	`This is original NeXt machine sound standard. It is a sounddata file like WAV files and takes a lot of desk space. A ULAWfile has an extension .au.`
`01:41.00`	`twisted`	`tclark, hehe`
`01:41.01`	`JunK-Y`	`twisted: he can't use it, if he didnt do a setvar(EXTEN=${EXTEN}) before`
`01:41.02`	`ManxPower`	`You can get ${EXTEN} from STDIN on tour AGI`
`01:41.13`	`JunK-Y`	`http://bugs.digium.com/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001829`
`01:41.22`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: yes`
`01:42.35`	`ManxPower`	`suma, Use .WAV formatted ulaw files.`
`01:42.52`	`Chuji`	`.`
`01:42.56`	`Sp3ciaL_K`	`guess not.`
`01:43.08`	`twisted`	`JunK-Y, so care to explain how people pull exten into agi without using setvar?`
`01:43.19`	`ManxPower`	`cp5, Where is ${ARG1} set??`
`01:43.39`	`JunK-Y`	`twisted: i just print my exten var from my agi too.`
`01:43.44`	`ManxPower`	`twisted, They read stdin. It's sent to the AGI on startup on STDIN`
`01:43.57`	`twisted`	`ManxPower, heh. oh yea`
`01:44.00`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: im not doing tha way.`
`01:44.09`	`JunK-Y`	`i can do it with any global vars too.`
`01:44.34`	`suma`	`ManxPower: what is the frequency and bit length i should use with asterisk ?`
`01:44.39`	`JunK-Y`	`twisted: take a look at 1829, ya'll get my point.`
`01:44.42`	`ManxPower`	`None of the system variables can be accessed via AGI. JunK-Y discovered that you can work around the problem, but honestly I don't trust that not to break in the future`
`01:44.43`	`twisted`	`i read it`
`01:44.49`	`pfn`	`I can't believe there aren't any nice WAP YP services out there`
`01:44.49`	`jake__`	`whoo`
`01:44.55`	`pfn`	`you'd think that'd be something of a killer app for wap`
`01:45.04`	`ManxPower`	`suma, Read the mailing list archives Usually 8bit 8000hz I think`
`01:45.06`	`twisted`	`JunK-Y, that should really be filed as a new bug`
`01:45.10`	`twisted`	`not on a diferent bug`
`01:45.24`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: im making a channel var with the global var.`
`01:45.31`	`JunK-Y`	`twisted: what do ya mean ?`
`01:45.35`	`twisted`	`exactly what I said`
`01:45.40`	`twisted`	`you found a bug`
`01:45.43`	`twisted`	`don't post a bug onto a patch.`
`01:45.48`	`twisted`	`put it in a new report`
`01:46.02`	`JunK-Y`	`isnt a bug, its a solution how to tweak the bug.`
`01:46.14`	`ManxPower`	`JunK-Y, you realize that you are not supposed to be able to do SetVar(${EXTEN}=${EXTEN}), right?`
`01:46.28`	`twisted`	`JunK-Y, it IS a bug`
`01:46.36`	`twisted`	`JunK-Y, 1829 is NOT a bug, it's a patch`
`01:46.47`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: im doing SetVar(EXTEN=${EXTEN})`
`01:47.04`	`twisted`	`you normally would read those from stdin as manxpower said, but you should also be able to retrieve system variables via GET VARIABLE in agi`
`01:47.09`	`ManxPower`	`JunK-Y, I know. It's not SUPPOSED to work.`
`01:47.11`	`JunK-Y`	`and after, in the AGI, ya'll be able to do a GET VARIABLE EXTEN`
`01:47.26`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: why not ?`
`01:47.31`	`ManxPower`	`twisted, you can't. It's a known limitation that you cannot access system variables in AGI`
`01:47.44`	`twisted`	`ManxPower, you should be able to.`
`01:48.00`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: many global vars can't be access in that way, and there's no way to get them in other way.`
`01:48.03`	`ManxPower`	`twisted, Yes. I argued the same thing. Ask mark. He'll say "you can't do that"`
`01:48.04`	`jake__`	`shit`
`01:48.13`	`twisted`	`sure, you can't do that with the current code`
`01:48.15`	`jake__`	`Sep 2 21:47:51 WARNING[137511936]: chan_iax2.c:476 iax_error_output: Ignoring unknown information element 'Unknown IE' (32) of length 4`
`01:48.18`	`twisted`	`but it CAN be done`
`01:48.23`	`Corydon76-home`	`You're not overwriting it`
`01:48.29`	`ManxPower`	`Actually he'll mutter something about ast_pbx_builtin needing to be changed or something like that.`
`01:48.30`	`file[laptop]`	`you can always pass them to the AGI like I do`
`01:48.36`	`jake__`	`iaxy doesn't like my phone`
`01:48.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`You're adding a non virtual variable`
`01:48.47`	`JunK-Y`	`Corydon-w: a channel var, yes`
`01:48.53`	`ManxPower`	`jake__, Your phone?`
`01:48.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`but ${EPOCH} in the dialplan will still override the channel variable`
`01:49.10`	`ManxPower`	`jake__, you might get that if you were running an IAXy with an older version of Asterisk`
`01:49.15`	`jake__`	`ManxPower: any idea what that error it?`
`01:49.16`	`jake__`	`oh`
`01:49.17`	`jake__`	`heh`
`01:49.18`	`Corydon76-home`	`virtual variables ALWAYS take precedence over channel variables`
`01:49.22`	`jake__`	`guess I need -current`
`01:49.23`	`JunK-Y`	`Corydon-w: in doing my setvar and then launching my agi.`
`01:49.36`	`twisted`	`jake__, don't fear it`
`01:49.38`	`ManxPower`	`JunK-Y, Yes, but the setvar won't work in the rest of the dialplan`
`01:49.46`	`twisted`	`i have it in production on large deployments`
`01:49.47`	`twisted`	`works fine`
`01:49.56`	`ManxPower`	`jake__, Watch the CVs mailing list. when there's 2 days of no updates GET THE CVS ASAP`
`01:50.12`	`jake__`	`ManxPower: dailing 1000 works, dialing 8500 makes asterisk dump core`
`01:50.22`	`ManxPower`	`jake__, It's NOT supposed to do THAT.`
`01:50.27`	`twisted`	`jake__, what version you running?`
`01:50.29`	`JunK-Y`	`ManxPower: maybe, but i did it at my priority 1, so it'll stay until my context ends.`
`01:50.31`	`jake__`	`Sep 2 21:47:51 WARNING[137511936]: chan_iax2.c:476 iax_error_output: Ignoring unknown information element 'Unknown IE' (32) of length 4`
`01:50.32`	`jake__`	`Segmentation fault (core dumped)`
`01:50.32`	`jake__`	`gw-kit>`
`01:50.36`	`Corydon76-home`	`JunK-Y: yeah, but nobody who is serious about performance is running an AGI`
`01:50.54`	`ManxPower`	`jake__, Use the CVS.`
`01:50.58`	`JunK-Y`	`Corydon76-home: we cant do all in the dialplan, IVR`
`01:50.58`	`jake__`	`twisted: old, /asterisk-0.9.0_2`
`01:51.00`	`jake__`	`ok`
`01:51.02`	`jake__`	`will do`
`01:51.06`	`ManxPower`	`jake__, Unfortunatly -stable in't supported by ANYONE anymore.`
`01:51.07`	`twisted`	`jake__, at LEAST move up to rc2`
`01:51.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`JunK-Y: yes, you can. I do everything in the dialplan`
`01:51.19`	`ManxPower`	`jake__, or what twisted said`
`01:51.22`	`jake__`	`echo test works good though`
`01:51.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's faster and more efficient`
`01:51.34`	`jake__`	`thanks`
`01:51.39`	`JunK-Y`	`Corydon-w: how many application ?`
`01:51.40`	`twisted`	`i do everyting in the dialplan too`
`01:51.56`	`twisted`	`one of the applications i'm working on right now is bordering on 250 lines of dialplan logic`
`01:51.58`	`twisted`	`but it FLIES`
`01:51.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`What do you mean, how many applications?`
`01:52.01`	`JunK-Y`	`i tried it, but it was really long to change all my priority order.`
`01:52.04`	`pfn`	`oh, sweet, superpages has a wap version`
`01:52.07`	`pfn`	`excellent`
`01:52.10`	`JunK-Y`	`Corydon-w: how many phone numbers are ya working with ?`
`01:52.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`JunK-Y: millions`
`01:52.34`	`ManxPower`	`Corydon-w, Hows that lableing patch going? Does kram like it:?`
`01:52.43`	`JunK-Y`	`then maybe i dont know how to manage all my priority`
`01:52.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`ManxPower: No, Mark doesn't like the labels the way I've done it`
`01:52.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`But we'll discuss it after 1.0`
`01:53.12`	`ManxPower`	`Corydon-w, Does he like lables done other ways?`
`01:53.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`ManxPower: Mark wants to have priority aliases`
`01:53.32`	`JunK-Y`	`twisted: if ya must add a line at priority 17, ya dont have to do +1 for all >17 ?`
`01:53.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`Not full-fledged labels`
`01:53.49`	`jake__`	`my phone doesn't know what the hell to think`
`01:53.51`	`ManxPower`	`Personally I think priorities should fall thru to the next highest priority. You can always make the next priority HANGUP`
`01:53.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`JunK-Y: that's why we plan ahead and add NoOp's`
`01:54.00`	`twisted`	`JunK-Y, HUH?`
`01:54.10`	`twisted`	`oh`
`01:54.10`	`twisted`	`yea`
`01:54.13`	`twisted`	`what Corydon said`
`01:54.54`	`JunK-Y`	`i tried it, and how can ya interact with postgres directly in the dialplan?`
`01:54.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`ManxPower: it's an idea, but it's going to have to go into the experimental branch post-1.0`
`01:55.16`	`Corydon76-home`	`JunK-Y: by using the Postgres app?`
`01:55.26`	`ManxPower`	`Corydon-w, nod 1.0 needs to get released.`
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`01:55.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`ManxPower: for that matter, have you seen my abstraction for virtual variables yet?`
`01:56.15`	`Moc`	`does the r option in Dial work ? ;)`
`01:56.25`	`mitcheloc`	`no?`
`01:57.41`	`*** part/#asterisk mitcheloc (~mitchel@69-169-57-192.anhmca.adelphia.net)`
`01:57.42`	`Moc`	`lol ;)`
`01:57.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`ManxPower: #2278`
`01:57.56`	`Moc`	`I misread the a wiki example`
`01:57.58`	`_dw`	`for anyone that is interested, python oo bindings for manager api: http://botanicus.net/dw/tmp/py-asterisk-20040903.tar.gz`
`01:58.11`	`_dw`	`(drop .tar.gz to browse, etc)`
`01:58.19`	`jedirl`	`:)`
`01:58.27`	`Corydon76-home`	`ewwwww, python`
`01:58.40`	`Moc`	`I wanted to have to call my cell phone, but if I answer on the cell phone, I need to press # to really get the call`
`01:58.45`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: i could quite validly say "ewwww, c!" in the context of asterisk :)`
`01:58.50`	`JunK-Y`	`twisted: if ya've to insert process in priority 7, how do ya make it exactly ? just between 6 and 8 right ? but ya must do a tons of priority +1 no?`
`01:59.08`	`Moc`	`ok .. see the c thing`
`01:59.11`	`Corydon76-home`	`_dw: then you're going to have to say the same about the Linux kernel`
`01:59.15`	`Corydon76-home`	`And the BSD kernel`
`01:59.20`	`twisted`	`JunK-Y, what corydon said earlier`
`01:59.28`	`twisted`	`we generally plan ahead and use NoOp()'s`
`01:59.35`	`Corydon76-home`	`And about 3/4 of the utilities used on your system`
`01:59.38`	`jedirl`	`Corydon76-home: an operating system kernel is not the same than a management API`
`02:00.03`	`Moc`	`The c after the TRUNK command is what causes the connection to wait until the # key is pressed to complete the call.`
`02:00.03`	`epoch`	`I'm going to take this opportunity to say "eww manager api"`
`02:00.07`	`Moc`	`what is that ?`
`02:00.08`	`JunK-Y`	`twisted: ya, ya've a tons of noop, but what about if ya dont have enuf noop between 2 priority ?`
`02:00.08`	`Corydon76-home`	`jedirl: So you're saying a kernel doesn't have an API?`
`02:00.38`	`jedirl`	`Corydon76-home: not the same type of api`
`02:00.43`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: i'm fairly content with the quality of code in recent versions of linux, in critical areas at the least`
`02:00.55`	`_dw`	`discount all the drivers, and i'll up that to very content :)`
`02:01.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`jedirl: might as well be the same type of API. Does similar things.`
`02:01.23`	`jedirl`	`I don't think so`
`02:01.25`	`ManxPower`	`shrug Linux is "plenty good enough" for all my needs`
`02:01.31`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: i disagree also`
`02:01.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`all I need to say to rebut your OO API is one word: OpenH323`
`02:01.53`	`jedirl`	`a C api is the minimum common, a python api provides much more advanced and easy to develop tools`
`02:02.21`	`_dw`	`my choice of python is for it's ability to wrap in < 500 lines a type checked, exception raising, self documenting package that i can expose to my web app via soap`
`02:02.22`	`epoch`	`easy to develop sure`
`02:02.24`	`Moc`	`ha damnit... the c adter the TRUNK command only work with PRI ????`
`02:02.28`	`epoch`	`much more advanced, though?`
`02:02.29`	`_dw`	`i can't do that in perl, c, or any other language that i have heard of`
`02:02.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`HAH, self-documenting code?`
`02:02.45`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: read it.`
`02:02.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`You've been drinking the Kool-Aid too long`
`02:02.54`	`_dw`	`and if you don't understand that, then i suggest you read about python first.`
`02:03.09`	`jedirl`	`Corydon76-home, each language has its place and I think python is perfect for what _dw has used it`
`02:03.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`For OO? Yeah, no doubt`
`02:03.42`	`JunK-Y`	`Corydon-w: can ya gimme 3-4 lines of ur dialplan, with this, i'll tell ya what was my problem with all my code in the dialplan`
`02:03.43`	`_dw`	`this room is too much about opinion and too little about the practicalities of running asterisk ;(`
`02:03.45`	`jedirl`	`anything against OO?`
`02:03.53`	`Corydon76-home`	`If Python is the perfect OO language, that's the perfect reason not to use it`
`02:04.02`	`jedirl`	`hehehehhee`
`02:04.16`	`Moc`	`damn Zap/... only feature !!!`
`02:04.19`	`jedirl`	`so you don't like OOP?`
`02:04.28`	`JunK-Y`	`python the perfect OOP ? isnt java ?`
`02:04.45`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: for the task at hand, namely web integration and management of asterisk, only a spanner would go the procedural route these days. it would be a matter of lack of diligence on my part if i didn't wrap asterisk in oo for the task at hand`
`02:04.48`	`_dw`	`that's a little strong but still :)`
`02:04.56`	`Corydon76-home`	`OO is fine as a technique. Sucks when your language forces you into the paradigm`
`02:04.56`	`epoch`	`alright, so... does the externip variable in sip.conf _have_ to be an IP?`
`02:05.06`	`epoch`	`or could it be a hostname or fqdn?`
`02:05.13`	`jedirl`	`Corydon76-home: the language doesn't force you to use THAT language`
`02:05.33`	`Moc`	`Can I make a IAX connection a Zapinterface ?`
`02:05.35`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: would you say C forces you into the procedural paradigm? it's what you are used to`
`02:05.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`jedirl: No, but the language does force you into OO`
`02:05.38`	`jedirl`	`Corydon76-home: it's like blaming prolog for being a declarative language`
`02:05.58`	`epoch`	`Moc: what're you trying to do?`
`02:05.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`_dw: nope, I can write OO in C. I just don't have to`
`02:06.18`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: similarly with python and most other languages i work with. but i use it as a matter of best-practise`
`02:06.19`	`jedirl`	`yeah sure, like in GObject? xD`
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`02:06.30`	`Moc`	`epoch, well the Zap/ have the c flag, witch ask a confirmation of the remote user before the call is transfer`
`02:06.44`	`epoch`	`Moc: ahh`
`02:06.45`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: hmm, by any chance did i have a glowing warm debate with you one night over exactly the same topic we are discussing now? :)`
`02:06.53`	`epoch`	`Moc: and you want that for iax channels`
`02:07.09`	`Corydon76-home`	`Besides, any language that treats whitespace for loop control... well, the language designer deserves to be shot`
`02:07.18`	`jedirl`	`I agree with that`
`02:07.25`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: i can quote Knuth on that one`
`02:07.29`	`jedirl`	`giving semantics to indentation is a crime`
`02:07.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`jedirl: Python does that specifically`
`02:07.40`	`jedirl`	`I know`
`02:07.40`	`jedirl`	`:)`
`02:07.50`	`jedirl`	`that's what I don't like about python`
`02:07.58`	`Corydon76-home`	`_dw: Knuth is no god to me.`
`02:08.03`	`epoch`	`Moc: why would you want to have to provide confirmation on an iax channel, though?`
`02:08.04`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: i'm not surprised :s`
`02:08.13`	`_dw`	`jedirl: have you used it for any length of time? it took me about a month to get properly used to`
`02:08.39`	`jedirl`	`_dw: no, when I need to script I do PHP (yuck) and when I need to develop I do Java`
`02:08.42`	`_dw`	`perserverance pays off. take asterisk for example :p`
`02:08.42`	`Moc`	`epoch, cell phone`
`02:08.50`	`epoch`	`Moc: you have an iax cellphone!?`
`02:09.08`	`epoch`	`er, wait, nevermind.`
`02:09.14`	`_dw`	`jedirl: fair enough. i'd consider java a close equivalent, although i don't know it well enough`
`02:09.18`	`epoch`	`I guess you use an iax provider to call the cell :P`
`02:09.23`	`JunK-Y`	`Moc: have ya heard about telIPhone ?`
`02:09.25`	`Moc`	`epoch, no, my phone provider is Nufone... IAX ;)`
`02:09.28`	`jedirl`	`_dw: java and python are very different I think`
`02:09.38`	`jedirl`	`I think python is much more dynamic`
`02:09.47`	`_dw`	`indeed it is. it's dynamically typed for one :)`
`02:09.51`	`_dw`	`i like java's syntax for the most part`
`02:10.05`	`epoch`	`Moc: I just had a couple glasses of a fantastic wine... my brain's running slower than usual :P`
`02:10.17`	`_dw`	`but in terms of productivity, you can manage about the same in either language for common tasks`
`02:10.23`	`_dw`	`(again speaking from inexperience and speculation)`
`02:10.32`	`JunK-Y`	`epoch: i hope red wine! :)`
`02:10.36`	`jedirl`	`I guess that python is faster to develop with`
`02:10.37`	`Moc`	`lol`
`02:10.46`	`epoch`	`JunK-Y: yeah, a vintage valpolicella`
`02:10.58`	`jedirl`	`because it allows more "garbage-code" to be done with it`
`02:11.02`	`cp5`	`i have an AGI sending a Goto back -- shouldn't that work?`
`02:11.04`	`cp5`	`it doesn't seem to be`
`02:11.06`	`epoch`	`bought it a couple years ago and aged it -- my first attempt at that`
`02:11.18`	`JunK-Y`	`epoch: never heard about it.`
`02:11.52`	`epoch`	`JunK-Y: an italian varietal`
`02:11.52`	`\|Vulture\|`	`well looks like i got out of Orlando just in time I-95 is a parking lot`
`02:12.06`	`jedirl`	`_dw: how much time did it take you to write such a wrapper?`
`02:12.47`	`JunK-Y`	`epoch: try borelli!`
`02:12.47`	`_dw`	`jedirl: most of my time was spent working with the asterisk codebase`
`02:12.56`	`_dw`	`namely the non uniformity in the way it posts events`
`02:12.58`	`JunK-Y`	`a really cheap one, but SOO GOOD.`
`02:13.08`	`jedirl`	`heh`
`02:13.17`	`jedirl`	`and what parts does your API cover?`
`02:13.20`	`_dw`	`jedirl: the other most of my time was spent writing the placeholder methods for event handlers`
`02:13.20`	`epoch`	`JunK-Y: never heard of that ;)`
`02:13.25`	`epoch`	`JunK-Y: I'll look for it`
`02:13.27`	`_dw`	`jedirl: everything exposed by core asterisk manager api`
`02:13.31`	`_dw`	`http://botanicus.net/dw/tmp/py-asterisk-20040903/doc/Asterisk.Manager.html`
`02:13.36`	`jedirl`	`great then`
`02:13.42`	`epoch`	`JunK-Y: I highly recommend Masi's valpolicella though, it's my fave (and cheap too)`
`02:13.47`	`_dw`	`Corydon76-home: btw, i didn't do anything to generate that documentation. just "pydoc -w Asterisk.Manager" :)`
`02:13.52`	`jedirl`	`_dw: I'm *VERY* new to asterisk`
`02:14.05`	`jedirl`	`_dw: does that manager api expose a provisioning API?`
`02:14.21`	`_dw`	`jedirl: what sort of provisioning? food? :)`
`02:14.21`	`_Vile`	`as in adding an extension?`
`02:14.28`	`jedirl`	`_dw: users`
`02:15.01`	`_dw`	`for adding and removing?`
`02:15.01`	`jedirl`	`yep`
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`02:15.01`	`_Vile`	`nope`
`02:15.07`	`_dw`	`Manager.Command("AddExtension", ...) would do it`
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`02:15.10`	`jedirl`	`:)`
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`02:15.18`	`_dw`	`or you could move your conf into a db`
`02:15.20`	`_Vile`	`oooh`
`02:15.21`	`_Vile`	`ur right`
`02:15.39`	`jedirl`	`maybe makes more sense to have the conf stored in BD`
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`02:15.42`	`_dw`	`download the package, get python 2.3, and play with ./py-asterisk.. it lets you run the methods from the commandline. might come in handy </plug> :p`
`02:15.48`	`JunK-Y`	`_dw: that's pretty interesting.`
`02:15.57`	`_dw`	`jedirl: indeed, but you still need the api or killall -HUP to tell it to reload conf :P`
`02:16.05`	`jedirl`	`of course :)`
`02:16.12`	`_Vile`	`does that send in an Asterisk Command?`
`02:16.17`	`jedirl`	`your API is still very interesting`
`02:16.26`	`epoch`	`_dw: how stable do you find the manager api?`
`02:16.29`	`_dw`	`jedirl: it is a method-name-for-method-name clone of the asterisk api`
`02:16.53`	`_dw`	`epoch: i haven't had problems yet with it, apparently stability issues were long resolved before i started to work with it`
`02:17.00`	`epoch`	`_dw: ah`
`02:17.34`	`epoch`	`_dw: I messed with it a little bit, then read some mailing list messages about how unstable it it`
`02:17.51`	`_dw`	`epoch: yes, voip-info.org says the same, apparently that is fixed long ago in cvs though`
`02:18.16`	`cp5`	`is there a command to say "go to the next step". basically like goto but without specifying the priority?`
`02:18.30`	`JunK-Y`	`cp5: in AGI ?`
`02:18.51`	`cp5`	`agi or no agi`
`02:18.54`	`cp5`	`just in extensions.conf`
`02:18.59`	`cp5`	`i'm doing it from an agi however`
`02:19.20`	`JunK-Y`	`cp5: ya can use label`
`02:19.22`	`JunK-Y`	`or function`
`02:19.27`	`JunK-Y`	`(im doing this in perl)`
`02:20.02`	`JunK-Y`	`i did lot of labels, but i think i'll scrap all them to make function`
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`02:20.29`	`cp5`	`i'm not talking about perl`
`02:20.33`	`cp5`	`i'm talking about an asterisk command`
`02:20.57`	`JunK-Y`	`Goto requires a priority`
`02:21.02`	`JunK-Y`	`so i've no idea.`
`02:21.04`	`cp5`	`i understand that`
`02:21.06`	`cp5`	`heh`
`02:21.53`	`JunK-Y`	`if ya find something, please let me know ;)`
`02:22.22`	`carnt`	`Hi Good Night for everyone. I have a very easy question, please if anyone know answer. I just need when press into my * the number 9 (Over my grandstream), receive a line to call out using my BroadVoice connection. At this moment i need dial 9xxxxxxxxx to call out. But i need now dial 9 hear another sound of line then make the call . Any tip ? Thanks alot !!`
`02:23.04`	`denon`	`carnt: um .. huh?`
`02:23.15`	`denon`	`if im understanding you, just dial 9WWW12345`
`02:23.19`	`denon`	`W = wait`
`02:23.32`	`carnt`	`Really ?`
`02:23.34`	`Syncros`	`ignorepat => 9 ?`
`02:23.53`	`JunK-Y`	`Syncros: read the doc, its all written there.`
`02:24.05`	`JunK-Y`	`oups.`
`02:24.05`	`JunK-Y`	`:)`
`02:24.17`	`carnt`	`Now i make this . To call out over BroadVoice i must dial the 9 number to say that want use Braodvoice and the number . Example. 901155213332221 see.`
`02:25.31`	`carnt`	`Now i must make this. Dial 9. Then * will give me the line number that belong to Broadvoice. Now i digit 01155213332221 see.`
`02:25.50`	`carnt`	`9 is just to call out another line and say to * that i want use Broadvoice.`
`02:25.57`	`Heinz`	`hi .. im read all the information of VoiceMailMain, it reads find the main menu, but, "please press 1 for this, 2 for that" .. i press 1 for example an it keeps reading and never i can enter to any sub-menu (http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Asterisk+cmd+VoiceMailMain)`
`02:26.14`	`Heinz`	`any ideas?`
`02:26.38`	`Heinz`	`i can't read any messages, only by mail`
`02:32.17`	`carnt`	`hello ?`
`02:33.12`	`Heinz`	`ok`
`02:33.18`	`Heinz`	`maybe later ;)`
`02:33.21`	`Heinz`	`have to go`
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`02:35.52`	`carnt`	`Someone ? Anyone ??`
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`02:37.53`	`carnt`	`Hellooo ???`
`02:37.57`	`carnt`	`;(`
`02:44.01`	`Gushi`	`Are the zaptel drivers under BSD workable yet?`
`02:44.14`	`Corydon76-home`	`Only if you like the X100P`
`02:44.20`	`jake__`	`haven't tried, aparently they are`
`02:44.33`	`jake__`	`you voip snobs`
`02:45.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`At last check, only the X100P driver was working`
`02:45.50`	`Corydon76-home`	`And I don't think anybody is working on the drivers for the TE4xxP, T100P, or E100P.`
`02:46.18`	`jake__`	`no one who would work on it can afford a PRI just for development :)`
`02:46.20`	`Corydon76-home`	`So you're kinda stuck on ghetto speeds for the forseeable future`
`02:46.48`	`Corydon76-home`	`So, go, GhettoBSD!`
`02:47.49`	`blitzrage`	`wooooo :)`
`02:48.22`	`Corydon76-home`	`Or nobody can afford to spend $1500 for a card when they're only getting $1100 in bounty`
`02:49.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`$1200 if they get all the drivers done by March 1, 2005`
`02:49.07`	`jake__`	`that too`
`02:49.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`Which they aren't going to`
`02:50.33`	`Corydon76-home`	`Careful... the same guy who wrote the Linux drivers is also responsible for the Asterisk codetree`
`02:50.49`	`jake__`	`tell him to include <sys/types.h>`
`02:50.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`So if the Linux drivers are junk, what are you doing with Asterisk itself?`
`02:51.35`	`jake__`	`its just frustrating that it should be easy to have this stuff work on lots of other platforms`
`02:51.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`Besides, the Linux drivers are fast... it's not Mark's fault that BSD has a completely different driver architecture`
`02:51.42`	`jake__`	`instead people decide to use linux-isms`
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`02:51.44`	`jake__`	`...`
`02:51.56`	`jake__`	`its not the driver architecture`
`02:52.03`	`jake__`	`its unix standards that linux doesn;t follow`
`02:52.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`jake__: I run BSD on my firewalls. I'm not against BSD`
`02:52.38`	`Corydon76-home`	`But it is the driver architecture that makes Linux drivers incompatible with BSD`
`02:52.46`	`Corydon76-home`	`Not anything else.`
`02:52.58`	`jake__`	`netbsd and openbsd are also incompatible`
`02:53.09`	`jake__`	`the userland code is pointlessly linux specific`
`02:53.24`	`Corydon76-home`	`No, it's not`
`02:53.42`	`Corydon76-home`	`It's coded to be fast`
`02:53.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`That's the point...`
`02:53.58`	`jake__`	`I've tried to compile, it requires stupid patches like including <sys/types.h>`
`02:54.04`	`Corydon76-home`	`So?`
`02:54.08`	`jake__`	`that has nothing to do with speed`
`02:54.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`Wasn't necessary on Linux. So?`
`02:54.42`	`jake__`	`so linux is dumb for being non-standard, that's my point`
`02:54.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`Non-standard to BSD, you mean`
`02:55.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`As if BSD was a standard`
`02:55.26`	`jake__`	`Corydon76-home: go fuck yourself`
`02:55.36`	`Corydon76-home`	`jake__: If I could, I would`
`02:55.54`	`scromp`	`wait, is dick cheney here in #asterisk?`
`02:56.02`	`scromp`	`welcome vice president`
`02:56.23`	`scromp`	`i hope you will help us fight these onerous impingements on voip that have cropped up lately`
`02:56.25`	`Corydon76-home`	`One thing that always pissed me off about BSD is if a header file always required another header file, first, then why doesn't the first header file include the second?`
`02:56.41`	`jake__`	`can I have ops please? :)`
`02:57.04`	`Corydon76-home`	`No, but you might get a +q just for asking`
`02:57.40`	`*** mode/#asterisk [+q jake__!@] by twisted`
`02:57.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`If you're gay, I'll give you ops in another channel...`
`02:58.29`	`andreg`	`yeah nobody's ever heard of 4.x BSD standards... e.g. TCP/IP sockets, etc`
`02:58.51`	`Corydon76-home`	`andreg: Note that that's not the same as FreeBSD`
`02:59.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`Nobody runs 4.4BSD anymore`
`02:59.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`At least, not without a firewall in front of it`
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`02:59.50`	`twisted`	`this conversaion should end`
`03:00.00`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: okay`
`03:00.03`	`twisted`	`;)`
`03:00.04`	`scromp`	`what the hell is +q?`
`03:00.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`Quiescent`
`03:00.14`	`andreg`	`i think there are still some machines running 386bsd out there or maybe BSDI 1.0`
`03:00.17`	`scromp`	`cute`
`03:00.19`	`twisted`	`scromp, squelch`
`03:00.32`	`*** mode/#asterisk [-q jake__!@] by twisted`
`03:00.52`	`jake__`	`ahh man`
`03:00.58`	`jake__`	`this is going to take work`
`03:01.28`	`Corydon76-home`	`Work? What's that?`
`03:01.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: did you finally iron out all the idiosyncrasies of that code?`
`03:02.19`	`jake__`	`hier(7)`
`03:02.21`	`jake__`	`sorry`
`03:02.28`	`Godsey`	`could someone take a look at a portion of my sip.conf?`
`03:02.38`	`Godsey`	`I'm obviously missing something basic :)`
`03:02.40`	`twisted`	`Corydon, yes... see bug id 2365`
`03:03.21`	`Corydon76-home`	`Cool...`
`03:03.29`	`Godsey`	`I don't know the url to the paste bot`
`03:03.41`	`Corydon76-home`	`Guess I should revert my patch, for when yours comes through`
`03:03.56`	`Corydon76-home`	`~pastebin`
`03:03.57`	`jbot`	`rumour has it, pastebin is a place to paste all your conf/debugs/logs for other people in the chatroom to view without flooding the channel. We suggest http://pastebin.ca`
`03:04.06`	`Godsey`	`thank you :)`
`03:04.27`	`twisted`	`Corydon76-home, i don't know if it will, but i'm hopeful ;)`
`03:04.52`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: I actually put mine after the state field, instead of the first field`
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`03:05.10`	`Corydon76-home`	`Given that it measures the time a channel is in a particular state`
`03:05.26`	`twisted`	`true`
`03:05.39`	`Poobah_G`	`het all, was wondering if anyone has run an asterisk server at office, with extensions at home (via different isp). is that possible?`
`03:06.22`	`Corydon76-home`	`twisted: you might want to initialize the value on channel creation`
`03:06.48`	`twisted`	`Corydon76-home, eh?`
`03:06.49`	`Corydon76-home`	`Otherwise, you're going to get a value that's over 30 years initially`
`03:06.53`	`twisted`	`no`
`03:06.58`	`twisted`	`i get values that are 0 initially`
`03:07.13`	`Corydon76-home`	`Exactly... and subtract now - 0`
`03:07.43`	`twisted`	`i'm not thinking about this tonight`
`03:07.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`When you pick up a Zap channel, before you dial anything...`
`03:08.40`	`Corydon76-home`	`ast_setstate isn't called until you do something... so if a channel still has dialtone...`
`03:09.07`	`Corydon76-home`	`I'll give you a bugnote to that effect...`
`03:09.43`	`Godsey`	`http://pastebin.ca/843`
`03:10.18`	`Godsey`	`sorry 844`
`03:10.23`	`Godsey`	`<- super tard`
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`03:11.37`	`Corydon76-home`	`Doesn't Vonage force you to use their hardware?`
`03:11.50`	`Godsey`	`using softphone`
`03:11.59`	`Godsey`	`the terms say only their xten software`
`03:12.22`	`Godsey`	`I can make it work for dial in, or dial out but not at same time`
`03:12.26`	`Godsey`	`the other weird thing:`
`03:12.54`	`Corydon76-home`	`You sure Vonage isn't limiting you to one call at a time?`
`03:12.55`	`Godsey`	`if I setup [sip1234] and [sip1235] w/ the same host/port settings just different user/pass, asterisk doesn't seem to see [sip1235]`
`03:13.30`	`Godsey`	`it's not just 1 call`
`03:13.44`	`Godsey`	`if I make config work for incoming, I can dial in 5 times at once and it works for all of them`
`03:14.00`	`Godsey`	`if I make config work for dial out, I can make 3 outbound calls at once (using Xten lite)`
`03:14.24`	`Godsey`	`I have 2 softphone numbers, I want to use 1 for inbound and 1 for out, but for the life of me I can't figure out how to get the config right :)`
`03:14.44`	`Corydon76-home`	`So shouldn't you have one section that's type=user and the other type=peer?`
`03:15.04`	`Godsey`	`type=peer works`
`03:15.19`	`Corydon76-home`	`type=peer is only for dialling out`
`03:15.19`	`Godsey`	`the only change I make to make it in/out is change host from =dynamic to =sphone.vopr.vonage`
`03:15.30`	`Corydon76-home`	`type=user is for incoming calls`
`03:15.35`	`Godsey`	`right, it seems only register= needed?`
`03:15.59`	`Corydon76-home`	`Dunno, I'm not using vonage`
`03:17.20`	`Godsey`	`the error is Unable to create channel of type 'SIP'... Everyone is busy/congested at this time`
`03:17.24`	`Godsey`	`which service do you use?`
`03:17.31`	`Corydon76-home`	`None`
`03:17.37`	`Godsey`	`I just wanted to show my boss asterisk as proof of concept :)`
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`03:32.00`	`_dw`	`hrm,`
`03:32.14`	`_dw`	`does callerid hide in a channel variable i can access?`
`03:32.45`	`Corydon76-home`	`See /usr/src/asterisk/doc/README.variables`
`03:33.33`	`Darwin35`	`this make no ssense I get no compile errors yet I get no outgoooing audio`
`03:34.42`	`Darwin35`	`and moh is not playing`
`03:35.31`	`Darwin35`	`Sep 2 23:35:16 WARNING[138518528]: app_queue.c:1700 queue_exec: Unable to join queue 'sales'`
`03:35.42`	`Darwin35`	`ok now queus are not working`
`03:35.57`	`Darwin35`	`Sep 2 23:35:16 NOTICE[138518528]: chan_iax2.c:2375 iax2_read: I should never be called!`
`03:36.34`	`Darwin35`	`stop now`
`03:36.52`	`plungerboy`	`hmm i see those message occasionally i should never be called`
`03:37.04`	`Darwin35`	`dont know why`
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`03:42.20`	`Moc___`	`Anyone know how to make a outgoing call to a cell phone ask to press # key to accept the call, if not it get goes to voicemail ?`
`03:42.32`	`Moc___`	`via IAX`
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`03:43.22`	`whatisvoip`	`HI all`
`03:43.26`	`whatisvoip`	`can you help me`
`03:43.45`	`whatisvoip`	`I want to configure asterisk so I can receive voicemail by my e-mail`
`03:43.58`	`Moc___`	`whatisvoip, just put your email in your voicemail.conf`
`03:44.04`	`whatisvoip`	`suppose I have an email whatisvoip@yahoo.com`
`03:44.13`	`whatisvoip`	`and I want voicemail will send to this address`
`03:44.19`	`Moc___`	`whatisvoip, just put your email in your voicemail.conf`
`03:45.20`	`ariel_`	`whatisvoip, to do this you need to read a little and configure the file called voicemail.conf set your box number and password, Name then your email address.`
`03:45.58`	`ariel_`	`Moc___, I think you need to look up the mailing list for your request. I even think that someone has put up a bounty on it.`
`03:46.19`	`Moc___`	`ariel_, ok, I know via Zap it posible, I saw the c flah`
`03:46.25`	`ariel_`	`Darwin35, what did you change? if moh does not work now?`
`03:47.02`	`whatisvoip`	`what programe asterisk use to send voicemail to my e-mail`
`03:47.35`	`pfn`	`sendmail`
`03:47.41`	`ariel_`	`whatisvoip, what distro do you have. It defaults to sendmail.`
`03:48.08`	`pfn`	`YUM`
`03:48.21`	`ariel_`	`good evening pfn. When is it that you leave for your overseas trip?`
`03:48.28`	`pfn`	`tomorrow night`
`03:48.30`	`pfn`	`I need to pack tonight and stuff`
`03:48.49`	`Moc___`	`whatisvoip, be sure to cfg your resolv.conf correctly`
`03:48.56`	`ariel_`	`Well if I can't say it then due to power problems godspeed and have fun.`
`03:48.58`	`Moc___`	`and watch out for firewall blocking DNS query`
`03:49.14`	`pfn`	`whose firewall blocks dns....`
`03:49.16`	`Darwin35`	`nothing`
`03:49.27`	`Darwin35`	`I just built a fresh system`
`03:49.33`	`Darwin35`	`from cvs`
`03:49.39`	`ariel_`	`I guess it's those new fangle dns blockers. spf 15...`
`03:49.58`	`ariel_`	`nothing, that is not nothing... Did you reboot?`
`03:50.10`	`pfn`	`so when are you gonna take cover, ariel?`
`03:50.13`	`Darwin35`	`I have to figure out I am not getting moh and no echo in echo test`
`03:50.32`	`Darwin35`	`yes I had to reboot`
`03:50.45`	`ariel_`	`the storm is slowing down so they say Friday afternoon we will start to feel her. But that it will last till sat afternoon. She is slow.`
`03:52.38`	`Darwin35`	`you should just get a small generator and stockpile gas to last got 5 days`
`03:52.47`	`ariel_`	`Darwin35, are you still on fbsd or on linux?`
`03:53.03`	`pfn`	`should hook up a bike to an alternator to generate power`
`03:53.03`	`pfn`	`hehe`
`03:53.14`	`PatrickDK`	`pfn, heh, used to do that`
`03:53.22`	`PatrickDK`	`end up eating too much food that way`
`03:53.27`	`Darwin35`	`fbsd. we could not get linux onto the mini itx`
`03:53.27`	`PatrickDK`	`but have to keep the computer going somehow`
`03:54.35`	`*** join/#asterisk renuzit (~matt@esbrooks3.traveller.com)`
`03:55.28`	`Moc___`	`could I convert a IAX channel as a virtual Zap interface ?`
`03:55.28`	`Darwin35`	`I am going to relook over everything`
`03:55.38`	`Darwin35`	`but it was working now its not`
`03:56.29`	`pfn`	`moc to do what?`
`03:57.38`	`whatisvoip`	`the voicemail function is only used for SIp users, is that right ?`
`03:57.40`	`ariel_`	`moc wants to dial a cel phone with iax2 and wait till they press # to send the call else send to voicemail.`
`03:57.59`	`ariel_`	`whatisvoip, no it's used for every type of device.`
`03:58.14`	`ariel_`	`sip, zap, h323, iax, mgcp....`
`03:58.32`	`Moc___`	`yea, there is the c flag that can be applyed to Zap interface`
`03:59.23`	`ariel_`	`Moc___ can't you just make an agi to dial and wait for an input of # else it times out sends the call to voicemail.`
`03:59.48`	`pfn`	`ariel because the "ivr" paradigm doesn't work on outbound calls`
`03:59.57`	`whatisvoip`	`but we need to create mailbox for users`
`04:00.20`	`Moc___`	`i dont know if I can make in agi, another Dial, and process another AGI for that call, and if # is press, merge the 2 call into each other..`
`04:00.37`	`ariel_`	`whatisvoip, I would like to know where did you read about asterisk what document are you using?`
`04:00.52`	`whatisvoip`	`I read it on asterisk-wiki`
`04:01.14`	`Darwin35`	`bed time work on this tomarrow`
`04:01.26`	`ariel_`	`ok if you configure the voicemail.conf properly like basic default area it will do the rest for you.`
`04:01.49`	`ariel_`	`next in sip or zap you place a mailbox=XXXXX in there conf file.`
`04:01.58`	`whatisvoip`	`I want to set up a network to call to pstn, it user in PSTN dont receive the call, caller cand send voice mail to him`
`04:02.07`	`ariel_`	`Then you use a nice macro_stdexten to dial the item.`
`04:02.22`	`pfn`	`man, sashimi is yum`
`04:03.17`	`whatisvoip`	`in zap file, how can I specify the mailbox for specifical PSTN number`
`04:03.38`	`pfn`	`there's that, too`
`04:03.38`	`pfn`	`:p`
`04:04.10`	`ariel_`	`whatisvoip, channel numbers is the configuration. mailbox is the box number. did you make samples?`
`04:04.40`	`whatisvoip`	`I just make for sip users`
`04:05.04`	`ariel_`	`ok here read these samples http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/`
`04:06.02`	`alegh`	`hi, anyone with experience in TDMoE. I'm new and I have some questions about`
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`04:06.26`	`ariel_`	`whatisvoip, start with a basic setup learn the power of asterisk. If you test and configure it will come. Use the power of extensions.conf`
`04:06.47`	`pfn`	`alegh just ask`
`04:06.51`	`ariel_`	`alegh, yep don't use it unless you really need to ....iax2 is better.`
`04:07.54`	`ariel_`	`lkajdfadjf;akdjf;ldajkfdkjaf`
`04:08.02`	`ariel_`	`sorry baby hit keyboard....`
`04:08.24`	`alegh`	`What i need is to connect a legacy IVR to * and I believe that maybe using TDMoE could help if in the oterh side I reconvert TDM packets (Is too crazy?)`
`04:08.53`	`ariel_`	`does the other side have a t1 port?`