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00:00.07Corydon-wI'd be a bigger fan of firefly if it ran on Mac OS X.
00:00.22ManxPowerAdam_, I'v not used Firefly.
00:00.23dantfirefly?
00:00.24markitnitram: are you using the 3.2 kde version?
00:00.30heisonCorydon-w:  I can't find it in CVS...
00:00.39drkfiberManxPower. What do I need to do to access the Weather demom on fnords.org?
00:00.42Q-At-Workhome time
00:00.44Q-At-Workl8z all
00:00.45ManxPowerdant, if you were on the Asterisk mailing list you would know about Firefly.
00:00.48Corydon-wheison:  did you check it out of CVS?
00:01.03dantManxPower, I am, but I have a real hard time keeping on top of all the treads :)
00:01.04Adam_dant: www.virbiage.com/firefly - it's windows only though
00:01.08ManxPowerdrkfiber, Dial(guest@ext-1.fnords.org/2101) and then dial 11 for a list of demo apps.
00:01.10heisonCorydon-w:  yes, cvs update asterisk
00:01.12dantahh I remember now
00:01.16nitrammarkit: kphone/testing uptodate 1:3.14-2
00:01.19dantsaw it was windows only and dismissed it
00:01.31Corydon-wheison:  that's asterisk.  Try asterisk-sounds
00:02.16Corydon-wexport CVSROOT=`cat /usr/src/asterisk/CVS/Root` ; cvs co asterisk-sounds
00:02.20heisonCorydon-w: oh, never knew it exists... thanks
00:02.30drkfiberManxPower: so just add that line to a exten => 4000,1, Dial(guest@ext-1.fnords.org/2101) ?
00:02.33ManxPowerCorydon-w: asterisk-sounds is now on the Asterisk FTP site too.
00:02.38nitrammarkit: i heard other people complain about kphone, too. high cpu-load seems to be a quite common problem
00:02.40ManxPowerdrkfiber, Yup!
00:02.49ManxPowerno space after the 1,
00:02.53drkfibercool. I will try.
00:03.12ManxPowerdrkfiber, I think I allow GSM and iLBC, but not ULAW or ALAW
00:03.22Corydon-wYes, you aren't coding HTML.  No extraneous spaces, please.
00:03.33dantI've got x-lite running on linux (not working, but running), I'll have to try firefly
00:03.40Adam_gl :p
00:04.03ManxPowerI'm now allowing all 4 codecs
00:04.13markitManxPower: what about d-link DPH-100H IP Phones? I can't understand what protocols must be supported to be used with asterisk to make "normal" (Zap channels) calls
00:05.06ManxPowermarkit, I've not heard much about that phone, but I seem to recall that dLink phones that end in "H" are H323, "S" are SIP and "M" are MGCP, but don't quote me on it.
00:05.37jorgeraidelconcurrido esto hoy :-)
00:06.03markitManxPower: yes, you are right... so is it good or not? is H323 supported by asterisk?
00:06.03ManxPowerdrkfiber, you can also dial IAXTel 700-923-3645 but call quality will prolly be better if you dial my system directly.
00:06.49KillerBeeManxPower if I call do you have some good music?
00:06.52ManxPowermarkit, H323 is supported by Asteirsk, but it's "non-trivial" to set up and depends on external libraries.  Personall, I would recommend you contact DLink and see if you convert your phone to SIP via a firmware upgrade.
00:07.02KillerBeewho broke wcfxo.c?
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00:07.26nitramFYI the actual debian unstable package of asterisk has chan_h323 included
00:07.38nitrami just tested it with gnomemeeting
00:08.01markitManxPower: so SIP is the "magic word" when choosing an IP phone, right? I thounght that all IP phones were suited for voice call throught asterisk
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00:08.30ManxPowerKillerBee, I think my current hold music is Dead Can Dance, I don't recall the track.
00:08.51torment0rthis is weird
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00:09.10torment0r-- Executing Dial("SIP/support-2-99f5", "SIP/2000|20") in new stack
00:09.10torment0rFeb  4 19:32:22 WARNING[589843]: channel.c:1625 ast_request: No translator path exists for channel type SIP (native 256) to 4
00:09.10torment0rFeb  4 19:32:22 NOTICE[589843]: app_dial.c:507 dial_exec: Unable to create channel of type 'SIP'
00:09.10torment0r<PROTECTED>
00:09.10ManxPowermarkit, Most IP phones will work with Asterisk, but the Asterisk drivers for SIP seem to be the most mature, and easiest to set up (if you can call anything easy with VoIP)
00:09.28judgemenanyone have an opinion about opteron vs pentium for asterisk?
00:09.35ManxPowertorment0r, "show codecs"  look at the codec listed as 256
00:10.00torment0r<PROTECTED>
00:10.01drkfiberManxPower: any clue what I am screwing up? ast_request: No channel type registered for 'guest@ext-1.fnords.org
00:10.01ManxPowertorment0r, You have an allow=all in your sip.conf, don't you?
00:10.17torment0rno.. i have disallow=all, and allow=ulaw
00:10.22ManxPowerdrkfiber, That's because I screwed up my Dial command I gave you.  Hold on.
00:10.34ManxPowerdrkfiber, Dial(IAX2/guest@ext-1.fnords.org/2101) and then dial 11 for a list of demo apps.
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00:10.50ManxPowertorment0r, in [general]?
00:11.00torment0ryeah
00:11.04ManxPowertorment0r, Well the phone is trying to use G729a
00:11.21ManxPowerdrkfiber, Sorry about that.
00:11.56torment0rso allow=g729a
00:12.00torment0rwould that be correct?
00:12.01drkfiberManxPower: thanx. No Prob. Just glad that you have these great resorces.
00:12.09ManxPowertorment0r, GADS NO!
00:12.21ManxPowerNot unless you REALLY know what you are doing.
00:12.28ManxPowertorment0r, Tell your phone to use ulaw. 8-)
00:13.12ManxPowerdrkfiber, A few things on the demo system are broken.
00:13.56ManxPowerListen to Default Music on Hold is one of the few things you can't exit out of.  LOL!
00:14.10drkfiberstill a very powerfull demo. I am trying to get management at where i work to buy into * project...
00:14.15drkfiberfun for me...
00:15.04drkfiberManxPower: what speed line is this uplinked to?
00:15.17dantdrkfiber, tell them it'll cost $100000, a saving of $100000 on an equiv avaya set up, then pocket the difference ;)
00:15.35ManxPowerdrkfiber, 1.544Mbps down / 256K up ADSL link, but my ISP has some VoIP QoS stuff.
00:16.28KillerBeeManxPower who is Ur ISP?
00:16.43drkfiberwould love to! We are non-for profit. We have a 12 yr old PBX. Sucks...
00:16.56ManxPowerKillerBee, I-55 Internet a regional ISP in Louisiana, Mississippi, and (I think) Alabama.
00:17.17ManxPowerThey are small enough that I use my largest customer (who also uses I-55) to pressure them into doing things for me.
00:17.21KillerBeeoh.. I have not heard of any doing QOS for voip.. interesting
00:17.30KillerBeegotcha
00:17.59ManxPowerKillerBee, They didn't do it until we told them they would not get the contract for Voice and Internet for the 10 offices my largest customer has unless they provided QoS to us.
00:18.18KillerBeemakes perfect sense to me...
00:18.29ManxPowerKillerBee, We are still working with them to work out lingering issues.
00:18.45KillerBeelike the router that WONT take the upgrade
00:19.07ManxPowerKillerBee, Since they have QoS (just on their backbone) and since all the offices have T-1's into their backbone.....
00:19.33ManxPowerI'm on ADSL which, since it's going thru the ILEC's ATM network to get to the ISP, doesn't get all that much benefit from the QoS
00:20.58ManxPowerThe demo system is a 600Mhz Celeron machine, 128MB
00:21.11hmodesquite cute
00:21.28hmodesand now for home!
00:22.51KillerBeewo broke wcfxo.c?
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00:23.51jorgeraidelhey i need support for configuration that rate engine ?
00:24.04nitrammhm... how do i allow direkt sip calls to asterisk from any user? just don't specify username and secret?
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00:25.20ManxPowernitram, Good question.  I don't know, but I seem to recall it being discussed on the mailing list.
00:25.26torment0ri wish digium made a multiport version of the x100 card :/
00:25.39jorgeraidelsomeone knows?
00:25.42danttorment0r, it's coming
00:25.55danttorment0r, FXO modules for TDM400
00:25.58torment0rcuz i'm in a situation where i need 7 lines
00:26.01torment0rand it's like.. eh..
00:26.10torment0routta room
00:26.15torment0rw00t
00:26.20torment0rthat sounds tight
00:26.47danttorment0r, can you not get 8 channel PRI?
00:27.13torment0rsadly no.. they have 8 regular phone lines
00:27.19torment0rerr
00:27.24torment0r7 regular phone lines
00:27.41torment0rand i don't know a mobo that lets you get 7 pci cards
00:27.42torment0rlol
00:27.46heisonCorydon-w: Makefile is missing silence.
00:27.48danttorment0r, well... 2 x TDM400 with 7 FXO modules should cover you...
00:28.09heisonCorydon-w: Makefile for asterisk-sounds is missing silence
00:28.14nitramManxPower: thanks, wil try to find it there
00:28.14torment0ryep.. but are they out yet?
00:28.30torment0rthe modules?
00:28.34danttorment0r, not yet, they're just finishing the build afaik
00:28.47torment0rk00
00:29.01ManxPowertorment0r, No they are not shipping yet, but according to a MESSAGE ON THE MAILINST LIST, Mark said that they have solved a major bug in the test modules and hope there isn't too much more delay.
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00:31.17ManxPower> Will there be no FXO daughter boards for the TDM400?
00:31.17ManxPowerThere will be.  Units are again in production after having an issue that
00:31.17ManxPowerhad us stuck for about 2 months.
00:31.18ManxPowerMark
00:32.33drkfiberManxPower: great demo. Can I use it to call in to show people tomorrow?
00:32.49ManxPowerdrkfiber, As long as you do NOT expect it to work. 8-)
00:33.15ManxPowerThe demo is on a "as is" basis and sometimes doesn't work if I'm upgrading the server, or doing heavy uploads, or, or, or 8-)
00:33.38drkfiberI will check beforehand, and if does not work, I will just explain that it was a glitch in the Matrix.
00:33.55ManxPowerLOL!
00:34.01drkfiberwhat hardware do you have this running on?
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00:34.17dantjitter, the voip equiv of the black cat
00:34.28drkfiberand what is the state that the server is in?
00:34.46ManxPowerdrkfiber, Celeron 600Mhz, 128MB RAM.  The female voice is from Cepstral, see the mailing list archive for info on Cepstral (It's like $30)
00:35.02ManxPowerdrkfiber, Waveland Mississippi (about 50 miles east of New Orleans)
00:35.02kc-barneyhaving trouble using voicemail with postgres... asterisk complains about dboption field in voicemail conf... can't find docs on it, anyone know what it should it contain?
00:35.23drkfibercool!, we have a chick here at work with a smokin voice, I wil probably just use her.
00:35.29drkfiberthat sounded bad... ;)
00:35.38ManxPowerdrkfiber, I'll be doing stuff on the system tonight or tomorrow before 10am Central USA Time
00:36.53drkfibercool, I wend to tech school in Biloxi MS. Cruised up to New Orleans every other weekend. I was in the Air Force.
00:37.18torment0ri really messed this up
00:37.28ManxPowerdrkfiber, Carnival Season will be in full swing soon.
00:37.37drkfiberManxPower: What platform are you running on? Linux/ OpenBSD?
00:37.54ManxPowerLinux.  I also have a TDM20B and an X100P in the system.
00:38.03torment0rfor whatever reason what i set the phone to.. it keeps defaulting to codec 256 of g729..
00:38.16drkfiberWe are trying on OpenBSD, everything is working great so far. do you know if digium hardware will work with OpenBSD?
00:38.17ManxPowerMy customers are all in New Orleans so I VoIP to New Orleans for incoming and outgoing calls.
00:38.28wwhah!
00:38.39wwno, no zaptel with openbsd...
00:38.40ww:(
00:38.43ManxPowerdrkfiber, It will not work on anything except Linux.  There are people working on porting the drivers, I do not know the status of that.
00:38.49zigman1500$ if you get them to work ;)
00:38.51drkfiber:(
00:39.02drkfiberI will e-mail theo.
00:39.11wwwhich theo?
00:39.37drkfiberwhat a kickass combo that would be the security of OpenBSD and a host to a great VOIP Platform...
00:39.55drkfiberTheo DeRaat.
00:40.03ManxPowerdrkfiber, You would still have to deal with Asterisk security.
00:40.08wwif he wants to write drivers, great
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00:40.36ww(though most of openbsd's claims about security are little more than chest thumping... it's not better than netbsd or freebsd)
00:40.37torment0rvery weird
00:40.39kc-barneyanyone know what the dboption filed in voicemail.conf is for when using postgres?
00:40.59torment0rinorder for asterisk to take my codec update, i had to do a stop now on asterisk and then restart it
00:41.00drkfiberSure, but having a platform that is locked down to start with would be great.
00:41.16torment0rreload didn't do the trick :/
00:41.28drkfiberI like all the bsd's and linux's but some are just better suited for some purposes.
00:42.43torment0rwelp that's fixed
00:42.49torment0rhad me worried for a moment there
00:42.50torment0rlol
00:43.07ManxPowerI like Mandrake because of it's package management as well as it's good preconfigured packages.
00:43.32drkfiberww: I just find OpenBSD easier to work with as far as security. That is the main point of the OS. We use it as a vpn host to over 60 clients. Works flawlessly with Win clients as well as other Unix's.
00:44.10jorgeraidelhey who knows work con rate engine?
00:44.27drkfiberpf is the best firewall I have found as well. This is just my opinion.
00:45.11drkfiberIt is neat being able to determine the OS that is hitting your site and route traffic accordingly.
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00:51.12drkfiberAre there any usb sip phones that I could plug into a laptop and call #'s through *?
00:51.45drkfiberwould be great for when we are on the road. Lot's of hotels have free wirless broadband now.
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00:53.36ron_njHi
00:54.12tessierdrkfiber: Just bring a hub
00:54.13ron_njHello, anybody here?
00:55.35drkfibertessier: true, I can see the day when I can use my bluetooth phone to do this... :)
00:55.43tessieryep
00:55.52drkfiberI hate lugging stuff all over the world.
00:57.02drkfiberManxPower: you still there?
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00:58.04bkw_NEVER FEAR
00:58.12tessierbkw_ is here!
01:01.34tclarkhas anybody tried these linksys WRTG54G http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=33&scid=35&prid=601  router/switches with this GPL www.sveasoft.com firmware, and the traffic shapper & QOS as their edge device on dsl/cable
01:01.36yabooyeah my x100p card came today
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01:05.15ManxPowerdrkfiber, I am now.
01:06.05Moc_tclark yes
01:06.33Moc_Ive tryed the firmware, but nothing of it new feature
01:07.50drkfiberManxPower: do you know of any other free-open based sites that have services that will allow public access? other thatn IAXTEL?
01:07.55Moc_a * Appliance for 400$ is posible, Im sure of it
01:08.09ManxPowerdrkfiber, Nope.  I'm sure they are out there, but mine is the only one I know of.
01:08.33drkfiberand would a x100 card be good enough to demo incoming/outgoing calls through *?
01:08.54Moc_yep
01:09.32drkfiberMoc_: was that "yep" for me?
01:09.56tclarkmacTijn: have your used the tarffic shapper to deal withn ftp/smtp traffic in SOHO ??
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01:10.16Moc_draconius yes
01:10.23Moc_x100p is a fine card to start with
01:10.35drkfiberWere would I set up the config for the X-100 so I know what docs to read in advance?
01:11.09yaboowould like to know also please
01:11.17robl^drkfiber, you would do that in zapata.conf, zaptel.conf, and extensions.conf
01:11.32Moc_in /etc/zaptel.conf and /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf
01:11.40drkfiberK, so it would use the Zaptel analog interface?
01:12.21drkfiberI could use that on a PBX supplied analog line or a home based POTS line?
01:12.37ManxPowerdrkfiber, My web site at http://www.fnords.org/~eric/asterisk/ has some sample configs for X100P and other cards.
01:12.37robl^drkfiber, there is a download for a simple X100P and 1 FXS port on the digium site.  you can download simplified sample files that will help a lot.  I got my hard ware working in about an hour tonite
01:12.51drkfiberroute calls in/out?
01:13.01robl^yes
01:13.14robl^http://www.digium.com/downloads/asterisk-devkit-full.tgz
01:13.14tclarkMoc_: about the QOS/traffic shaping did that work for you on the WRTG54G
01:13.19drkfiberManxPower: Thanx, I will check out the pages soon. This Rocks.
01:13.33tclarkalso can you turn off the wireless functions ??
01:13.44Moc_tclark, I havent tryed it, just installed the firmware actually
01:13.46ManxPowerdrkfiber, You can always make a contribution to the Drunken Manx Fund by PayPaling to eric@fnords.org
01:13.59robl^drkfiber, http://www.digium.com/downloads/asterisk-devkit-full.tgz   <-- download this and look at those 3 files.  that will give you a working, but very basic setup
01:14.07Moc_Im using too much advance VPN stuff to use this box as my router
01:14.38drkfiberrobl^: Thanks, doing so now.
01:16.26drkfiberDoes anyone know of what kind of scale asterisk has been tested with. We have about 100 users at our office, all of them could possibly be routed through asterisk if approved.
01:17.03drkfiberAnd when would a 1.0 release be projected, Mngment does not like beta software!!!
01:17.18robl^drkfiber, there was a university in germany that used asterisk with 1000s of users
01:17.57Moc_drkfiber, It very stable
01:18.12drkfiberWow, are there any papers that are available publicly stating success?
01:18.21drkfiberor even that could be sent?
01:18.23l-fydrkfiber > if you test everything alot of time, it can be stable
01:19.19ManxPowerdrkfiber, I personally feel that TE410P cards with Channel Banks is the way to go.  That was you use analog phones.
01:19.45ManxPowerThen use ATA-186s (or similar) running SIP for users that are not on-site.
01:20.00jorgeraidelhey some body help me about the rate engine
01:20.32tholoBe a bit more specific?
01:20.32ManxPowerdrkfiber, I'm talking down the demp server to upgrade a hard drive, should be working by morning.
01:20.51yabooanyone using a nortel i2004 unit
01:22.00jorgeraidelsomebody can?
01:22.14ManxPowerjorgeraidel, Not a lot of people use the rating engine.
01:22.20daminManxPower: Check out Audio File 1112 on your system :)
01:23.03tholoBut some of us know a bit about it.  But "help" doesn't say much about what you need.
01:23.53ManxPowerdamin, That was not a very clever recording.
01:24.10daminManxPower: When put on the spot, it was the best I could come up wiht! ;)
01:24.15ManxPowerLOL!
01:24.47tholojorgeraidel: What, exactly, is it you need help with?
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01:32.53KillerBeek who broke wcfxo.c?
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01:37.35Moc_http://www.ipcmall.com/images/nova_7892_b1.jpg
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01:50.28daminhoochie?
01:51.24derrickthat's the web irc portal i think
01:51.35tessierI see that a lot and thought the same thing.
01:51.41tessierMust be a portal of some kind.
01:52.27derrickyeah, you see it in digium's smtp headers as well
01:52.37derrickX-Authentication-Warning: hoochie.digium.com: martinp owned process doing -bs
01:52.53Moc_yep it the web page client at digium
01:52.58daminWow.. Anna Nicole Smith lost a tone of weight. She almost looks hot again.
01:53.09derricknow that's a hoochie
01:53.22daminhoochie mama! :)
01:53.26derrick:)
01:54.17brc007hahahahaha
01:54.24brc007http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=2058&alloc_id=5224&site_id=1&request_id=5720967&1075946006054
01:54.32derrickX-Authentication-Warning: hoochie.digium.com: martinp owned process doing -bs
01:54.40derrickoops, wrong mouse button :)
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01:55.41nitrammhm... is it possible to connect isdn-telephones via e.g. an AVM C4 to asterisk?
01:55.53l-fyyes nitram
01:55.59l-fynitram > use capi driver
01:56.23nitraml-fy: cool...
01:56.39nitraml-fy: have you done that and can you recommend that?
01:57.37nitramso for example i would use port 1&2 for connection to the carrier and port 3&4 for 2 local ptp busses
01:57.40l-fynitram > ask the master, kapejod
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01:59.37nitramat this time he's probably sleeping
01:59.44nitraml-fy: thankyou
02:00.10l-fywell, ja
02:01.14ManxPowernitram, kapejod is the CAPIGod
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02:01.39MSrhondahi room
02:01.47nitramManxPower: i figured that much :)