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`05:26.30`	`okrumm`	`hello everybody anybody had problems with the tdm10b and the module wcfxs, is there a troubleshootgin guide?`
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`05:30.37`	`angler_`	`does it show in the pci bus?`
`05:31.08`	`okrumm`	`no it won't...`
`05:31.25`	`okrumm`	`what should be shown with the lspci??`
`05:32.10`	`JerJer`	`Tigerjet`
`05:32.40`	`okrumm`	`this is what i get...`
`05:32.52`	`okrumm`	`00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5600 Host (rev 11)`
`05:32.53`	`okrumm`	`00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0)`
`05:32.53`	`okrumm`	`00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 85C503/5513 (rev b1)`
`05:32.53`	`okrumm`	`00:01.1 Class ff00: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] ACPI`
`05:32.53`	`okrumm`	`00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS 530 Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP)`
`05:32.53`	`okrumm`	`00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 05)`
`05:32.55`	`okrumm`	`00:0d.0 Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Intel 537`
`05:32.58`	`okrumm`	`01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 86C326 5598/6326 (rev 0b)`
`05:33.13`	`IronHelix`	`] <okrumm> 00:0d.0 Communication controller: Tiger Jet Network Inc. Intel 537 that is a X100 i believe`
`05:33.38`	`okrumm`	`yes I have two cards the X100P and the TDM10B`
`05:34.36`	`okrumm`	`when i load the wcfxo i get no problems, but when i try to load wcfxs it won't load, the problem is that i don't find the card TDM10B using lspci...`
`05:36.42`	`okrumm`	`I'm sorry to ask such a dumb question, but i'm a begginer in * trying to set it up for the first time..`
`05:37.26`	`angler_`	`okrumm, you have pci 2.2?`
`05:38.01`	`okrumm`	`i don't know...`
`05:38.10`	`okrumm`	`is there any way i can find out?`
`05:38.20`	`angler_`	`check your motherboard manual`
`05:39.53`	`okrumm`	`ok i see, so in order to function the TDM10B i NEED to have pci 2.2, is that right?`
`05:41.29`	`okrumm`	`hello?`
`05:42.49`	`angler_`	`okrumm, yes you need pci 2.2`
`05:43.06`	`okrumm`	`thank you very much angler...`
`05:43.11`	`angler_`	`welcome`
`05:43.13`	`okrumm`	`i really apreciate your help!`
`05:43.24`	`angler_`	`np`
`05:47.41`	`jaggs`	`bkw i have a telephone line connect PBX here i have to dial 9 before dialing the telephone number is their any configuration need to be set to do this`
`05:48.32`	`IronHelix`	`in modules.conf`
`05:48.47`	`IronHelix`	`dont use ignorepat=9`
`05:49.00`	`IronHelix`	`and that way when you dial 9(number) it will pass the 9 off to your pbx too`
`05:49.20`	`IronHelix`	`if you are setting it up to dial something else other than 9 for outside dialing you'll have to be more creative`
`05:51.44`	`jaggs`	`okay`
`05:53.40`	`jaggs`	`IronHelix my aim is to demonstrate that asterisk can connect to adsi phone and at the same time want to make a call using that line`
`05:54.10`	`IronHelix`	`hmmm`
`05:54.17`	`IronHelix`	`to be honest i dont know that much`
`05:54.22`	`jaggs`	`inronHElix call external public numbers`
`05:54.23`	`IronHelix`	`im still working on my first * install`
`05:54.35`	`IronHelix`	`but i can help with setting up your dial plan`
`05:55.27`	`jaggs`	`IronHelix my problem is deciding the hardware of the digium to use for this purpose`
`05:56.31`	`IronHelix`	`hmmm`
`05:56.42`	`jaggs`	`IronHelix Wildcard TDM400P is this sufficient for my purpose of demonstartion`
`05:57.08`	`IronHelix`	`ok so you have your 400 board?`
`05:59.23`	`jaggs`	`no i want to buy from digium`
`05:59.41`	`IronHelix`	`oh, well you can order it from the website`
`06:00.10`	`IronHelix`	`http://store.yahoo.com/asteriskpbx/noname.html`
`06:00.21`	`IronHelix`	`thats all their telephony stuff`
`06:00.26`	`IronHelix`	`you can also buy stickers and stuff`
`06:01.04`	`daork`	`oO stickers`
`06:01.41`	`IronHelix`	`http://www.digium.com/index.php?menu=asterisk_sticker`
`06:01.56`	`daork`	`yes, i know.`
`06:04.06`	`daork`	`anyone here using a Quintum Tenor CMS with *?`
`06:05.00`	`JerJer`	`i sure hope you didn't blow your milk money on that POS`
`06:05.09`	`daork`	`JerJer: I know you are going to go on about how the CMS sucks, have you got anything constructive to add to that?`
`06:05.37`	`JerJer`	`A`
`06:05.37`	`JerJer`	`s`
`06:05.38`	`JerJer`	`t`
`06:05.38`	`JerJer`	`e`
`06:05.39`	`JerJer`	`r`
`06:05.40`	`JerJer`	`i`
`06:05.40`	`JerJer`	`sk`
`06:06.32`	`daork`	`so, thats a no?`
`06:06.47`	`JerJer`	`you tell me why you think you need it`
`06:08.08`	`daork`	`I have a Quintum Tenor CMS, I'd like to use * with it. Why is irrelevant. I don't like the box either, but it was purchased before I joined the company.`
`06:09.00`	`daork`	`From what I can tell, your h.323 thing doesn't implement a gatekeeper, so I'll probably have to try and get the CMS to talk SIP yeah?`
`06:10.36`	`JerJer`	`its never going to work as well as a TE410P and a nice dual xeon box`
`06:10.51`	`JerJer`	`and yes SIP is far better than H.323`
`06:10.57`	`JerJer`	`but even SIP sucks`
`06:11.05`	`daork`	`have you used SIP with a CMS?`
`06:11.09`	`JerJer`	`hell no`
`06:11.21`	`JerJer`	`i refuse to touch any qunitum gear`
`06:11.22`	`daork`	`have you used a CMS?`
`06:11.38`	`JerJer`	`Cisco won't buy them, they will die soon enough`
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`06:12.50`	`daork`	`well, it works pretty well for me so far. Although, I /have/ had to deal with a VoiceMaster recently too..`
`06:13.15`	`daork`	`so pretty much anything is good in comparison to the VM`
`06:15.24`	`daork`	`also, i've yet to see a PC that can handle 960 DS0`
`06:15.28`	`daork`	`'s`
`06:15.40`	`JerJer`	`no need`
`06:16.01`	`JerJer`	`a dozen dual xeon boxes is still dramatically cheapr than that cms crap`
`06:16.21`	`daork`	`I think it would actually be about the same`
`06:16.27`	`JerJer`	`um no`
`06:16.48`	`JerJer`	`that cms shit is expensive and is just a dumb gateway`
`06:17.02`	`daork`	`and a dozen dual xeon's would be alot more complex than a single CMS`
`06:17.10`	`JerJer`	`not if u do it right`
`06:17.26`	`JerJer`	`if you loose the one cms 960 DS0s are done`
`06:17.35`	`JerJer`	`you won't lose a dozen xeons at once`
`06:17.56`	`daork`	`that is true.`
`06:18.12`	`daork`	`but like i said`
`06:18.14`	`daork`	`its not up to me`
`06:18.34`	`JerJer`	`and yet again the uninformed blatently wasted money`
`06:19.44`	`marcus-`	`hrm`
`06:19.53`	`marcus-`	`evenin all`
`06:20.58`	`Aralan`	`Hi, does anyone know how to set the plan / type q931 fields for h323?`
`06:21.07`	`JerJer`	`?!`
`06:21.25`	`Aralan`	`Plan:Unknown, Type:Unknown`
`06:21.42`	`JerJer`	`i've never heard of them`
`06:24.43`	`Aralan`	`should be ISDN / National`
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`06:25.59`	`rpb`	`JerJer: do you use Cisco gateways, or do you use asterisk directly to PSTN?`
`06:27.28`	`Aralan`	`if you meant me, it's asterisk -> gnugk -> cisco as5300`
`06:28.01`	`daork`	`Aralan: how do you get * and gnugk to talk? using chan_h323.so?`
`06:28.20`	`Aralan`	`yup`
`06:28.40`	`daork`	`does it work well?`
`06:28.52`	`JerJer`	`rpb: TE410Ps only TE410Ps`
`06:29.01`	`Aralan`	`excellent other than caller id being TFU`
`06:29.08`	`JerJer`	`Aralan: those functions are very very very rarely used or needed`
`06:29.40`	`Aralan`	`which?`
`06:29.53`	`JerJer`	`plan and type`
`06:30.07`	`daork`	`does h.323 have some kind of reinvite thing like SIP does?`
`06:30.15`	`JerJer`	`no`
`06:30.46`	`rpb`	`JerJer: how many TE410P's do you have in each box?`
`06:31.02`	`JerJer`	`Aralan: why do you need the middle man? junk gnugk and have asterisk talk directly to the 5300`
`06:31.14`	`JerJer`	`rpb: 2`
`06:31.39`	`daork`	`so if i ask asterisk to do some IVR for instance and then Dial over h323, all the packets go via the * box still huh`
`06:31.49`	`JerJer`	`yes`
`06:31.54`	`Aralan`	`have some existing customers on h323`
`06:32.08`	`JerJer`	`and the problem is?`
`06:32.52`	`Aralan`	`callerid is getting a 9 prepended to it when it hits the pstn`
`06:33.05`	`JerJer`	`then somebody is adding the 9`
`06:33.09`	`marcus-`	`sweeeeet, this soekris board rox.`
`06:33.19`	`rpb`	`JerJer: Are they all IAX2 trunks, or do you have a bunch of g.729 running through them as well? --Just trying to get some idea as to load capability.`
`06:33.31`	`JerJer`	`IAX2`
`06:34.40`	`daork`	`not TDMoE?`
`06:35.00`	`JerJer`	`no too buggy`
`06:35.09`	`JerJer`	`and TDMoE doesn't work very well over the internet`
`06:35.23`	`daork`	`heh`
`06:35.44`	`Aralan`	`h323 customers have no callerid issues though, so it's not being done across the board`
`06:36.08`	`JerJer`	`someboday is adding it`
`06:36.08`	`daork`	`i would have thought TDMoE would be a better choice for local stuff, and IAX2 to the Internet.`
`06:36.18`	`JerJer`	`no`
`06:36.22`	`daork`	`Aralan: is the PSTN adding it?`
`06:36.54`	`daork`	`i guess you wouldnt know there was a 9 prepended if it were..`
`06:36.56`	`JerJer`	`TDMoE is for redunancy and a form of load balancing`
`06:37.02`	`JerJer`	`but its not needed`
`06:38.22`	`Aralan`	`had to hack up the callerid to figure out it was that`
`06:39.02`	`Aralan`	`the gateway is getting Calling Party number i = 0x0080, 'xxxxxxxxxx'`
`06:39.07`	`Aralan`	`Plan:Unknown, Type:Unknown`
`06:39.22`	`daork`	`oh, right, the caller ID gets it prepended.. my bad :)`
`06:39.31`	`Aralan`	`calls that aren't getting their CID screwed up look like:`
`06:39.33`	`Aralan`	`Calling Party Number i = 0x2183`
`06:39.45`	`Aralan`	`Plan:ISDN, Type:National`
`06:39.54`	`Aralan`	`(with the CID at the end of that first line of course)`
`06:40.08`	`daork`	`telco say anything?`
`06:40.39`	`JerJer`	`the fact still remains is someone is adding it`
`06:40.49`	`JerJer`	`chan_h323 only copies what it gets`
`06:41.15`	`Aralan`	`where is that plan and type stuff getting set then ?`
`06:41.26`	`JerJer`	`they don't get used`
`06:41.35`	`JerJer`	`esp in H.323 world`
`06:41.39`	`Aralan`	`hmmm`
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`06:41.57`	`JerJer`	`; PRI Dialplan: Only RARELY used for PRI.`
`06:42.06`	`JerJer`	`from zapta.conf.sample even Mark says this`
`06:42.27`	`JerJer`	`and if they are rarely used in PRI, only morons would use it in H.323`
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`06:43.03`	`Aralan`	`so the only other difference between screwed up calls and non-screwed up calls is i = 0x0080 vs i = 0x2183`
`06:43.12`	`JerJer`	`?!`
`06:43.19`	`scott_`	`whut upp`
`06:43.23`	`Aralan`	`no idea at all what that field is`
`06:43.48`	`JerJer`	`something is prepending the 9`
`06:43.59`	`*** part/#asterisk Shido9 (~shido@d57-81-103.home.cgocable.net)`
`06:44.40`	`JerJer`	`like i said, chan_h323 only copies what it gets`
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`06:45.03`	`brc007`	`chan's staying full these days :)`
`06:45.30`	`scott_`	`wonder where mark is...`
`06:47.22`	`Aralan`	`yes, and it's likely wrong, but i'd just as soon work around it by making *>5300 h323 calls look the same as the rest of the h323 calls`
`06:47.23`	`Aralan`	`so`
`06:47.47`	`*** part/#asterisk brc007 (~brc007@ip68-106-40-241.ph.ph.cox.net)`
`06:47.53`	`Aralan`	`lets say they're idiots as you said and they're paying attention to that stuff on the 5300>PSTN PRIs`
`06:48.03`	`JerJer`	`just remove the preprended 9`
`06:49.04`	`JerJer`	`if you are terminating to 5300s i know for an absolute fact you don't need them`
`06:49.21`	`JerJer`	`them = those fields`
`06:49.47`	`JerJer`	`i babysit a dozen systems that use asterisk+chan_h323+5300s`
`06:50.54`	`daork`	`can chan_h323 do registrations for things? i thought i read somewhere it could only dial`
`06:50.57`	`daork`	`err`
`06:51.02`	`daork`	`only be a gateway`
`06:51.46`	`JerJer`	`i've never been properly motivated to make chan_h323 gatekeep`
`06:52.20`	`scott_`	`i want a x100p`
`06:52.26`	`JerJer`	`buy one`
`06:52.32`	`angler_`	`lol`
`06:52.33`	`daork`	`how do you use it with a 5300 then?`
`06:52.39`	`scott_`	`i want to`
`06:52.46`	`scott_`	`but, not allowed to spend money`
`06:52.50`	`JerJer`	`a gatekeeper is toally optional`
`06:52.51`	`angler_`	`scott_, come down monday and buy one`
`06:53.04`	`JerJer`	`scott_: write documenation`
`06:53.07`	`JerJer`	`get free gear`
`06:53.18`	`scott_`	`i get free gear in another way :)`
`06:53.20`	`scott_`	`not really`
`06:53.34`	`JerJer`	`TMI`
`06:53.52`	`Aralan`	`ok then, i'm going to provide the telco with some more harassment`
`06:54.31`	`JerJer`	`do this.. pull the PRIs out of the 5300s and put them in to Asterisk`
`06:54.35`	`Aralan`	`does the 5300 send that type of data on the PRI end at all?`
`06:54.37`	`Aralan`	`hah`
`06:54.39`	`JerJer`	`you will have less stress and more hair`
`06:54.57`	`daork`	`JerJer: you dont need a gateway even for the 5300 to take calls from the PSTN?`
`06:55.06`	`daork`	`err`
`06:55.06`	`JerJer`	`?`
`06:55.08`	`daork`	`keeper`
`06:55.09`	`daork`	`;)`
`06:55.11`	`JerJer`	`no`
`06:55.17`	`JerJer`	`a gatekeeper is totally optional`
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`06:55.53`	`daork`	`you can tell the 5300 to send all calls to * then huh.. interesting`
`06:56.01`	`JerJer`	`yes`
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`06:56.32`	`JerJer`	`if you must run a 5300 throw a damn SIP load on it`
`06:59.05`	`JerJer`	`hell i think crisco has a SIP+H.323 load now`
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`07:03.20`	`daork`	`when i use chan_h323, it segfaults on init.. i've a backtrace here, it seems to be in pwlib, even though i'm using the correct version.. any thoughts ideas?`
`07:03.37`	`JerJer`	`suse?`
`07:03.44`	`daork`	`gentoo`
`07:03.49`	`JerJer`	`same diff`
`07:03.57`	`JerJer`	`use latest release open h.323 and pwlib`
`07:04.00`	`daork`	`how do?`
`07:04.08`	`daork`	`ignore that`
`07:04.14`	`daork`	`hmm ok, i'll try`
`07:06.02`	`daork`	`i guess that means i can use the ones from my distro then huh`
`07:06.35`	`JerJer`	`um no`
`07:06.47`	`daork`	`how come?`
`07:06.54`	`JerJer`	`use at your own risk`
`07:07.16`	`daork`	`they are just the same as using ones i compile myself`
`07:07.25`	`JerJer`	`not necessarily`
`07:07.32`	`daork`	`and it means i dont have to have 2 versions around`
`07:07.40`	`JerJer`	`you don't WANT two versions around`
`07:07.51`	`JerJer`	`do i need to drop a RTFM bomb?`
`07:08.10`	`daork`	`the "M" says to use specific versions`
`07:08.17`	`daork`	`which segfault :)`
`07:08.42`	`JerJer`	`and the author already gave you instructions on how to fix that`
`07:08.56`	`daork`	`right, use the latest versions`
`07:09.53`	`marcus-`	`if i see a bunch of stuff like "3;01Hp3;01Hy3;", what terminal emulator should i be using?`
`07:10.18`	`JerJer`	`get a better terminal`
`07:10.50`	`marcus-`	`:P`
`07:11.19`	`marcus-`	`all i have is securecrt`
`07:11.22`	`marcus-`	`and i guess hyperterm`
`07:11.51`	`JerJer`	`put ANSI as your type`
`07:12.07`	`daork`	`so, i've read the "M" about distro specific installs. why is it that you cant use the distro's install? Here, it just says not to, but nothing about why`
`07:12.31`	`JerJer`	`the brilliant fucks are known to change the names of the libs`
`07:12.50`	`indiam`	`hi`
`07:13.01`	`daork`	`marcus-: are you using network stuff, or serial?`
`07:13.25`	`indiam`	`can anyone help me to host asterisk`
`07:13.26`	`marcus-`	`daork; i'm trying to use the serial console of an embedded board`
`07:13.33`	`JerJer`	`marcus-: termial should be vt100 and ansi color should be clcked`
`07:13.51`	`JerJer`	`oh`
`07:13.57`	`daork`	`marcus-: ah. i was going to suggest using putty.. nevermind :)`
`07:14.01`	`JerJer`	`that could be a baud rate issue`
`07:14.10`	`marcus-`	`nah i dont think its a baud thing`
`07:14.11`	`daork`	`na, that looks like control chars`
`07:14.15`	`marcus-`	`its too consistent`
`07:14.25`	`marcus-`	`definately some sort of term emulation that my client is missing`
`07:14.30`	`daork`	`yeah. turn on ANSI stuff`
`07:14.42`	`vindex`	`has the cisco wi-fi phone 7920 been tried with chan_skinny?`
`07:14.53`	`marcus-`	`it is :/`
`07:14.57`	`daork`	`hrm`
`07:15.02`	`JerJer`	`vindex: send me one and i'll test it`
`07:15.05`	`daork`	`tried to restart securecrt?`
`07:15.29`	`marcus-`	`nah its not that securecrt is broken i dont think`
`07:15.30`	`marcus-`	`hrm`
`07:15.48`	`vindex`	`JarJar: what cisco phone have you tried ?`
`07:15.58`	`JerJer`	`no jarjar here`
`07:16.02`	`indiam`	`jerjer: can you help me with regards to asterisk hosting`
`07:16.02`	`vindex`	`hehe`
`07:16.16`	`vindex`	`just kidding`
`07:16.29`	`JerJer`	`7910, 7905, 7940, 7960, 12SP+`
`07:16.56`	`JerJer`	`indiam: what do you want to host?`
`07:17.01`	`vindex`	`oh, so the 7920 _should_ be ok`
`07:17.10`	`indiam`	`asterisk`
`07:17.15`	`JerJer`	`i wouldn't count on it`
`07:17.24`	`indiam`	`jerjer: i want to have a basic sip server for my domain`
`07:17.25`	`JerJer`	`indiam: be more specific`
`07:17.27`	`daork`	`JerJer: so hacking the makefile to work with different libs will fix any problems? or is it more than just library naming?`
`07:17.43`	`JerJer`	`daork: its not supportable`
`07:17.56`	`JerJer`	`not everyone is going to know how to hack the makefile`
`07:17.59`	`indiam`	`jerjer: so my customers can connect and talk each other`
`07:18.07`	`daork`	`JerJer: autoconf?`
`07:18.09`	`JerJer`	`indiam: then do it`
`07:18.13`	`JerJer`	`daork: not gonna happen`
`07:18.17`	`daork`	`why?`
`07:18.24`	`JerJer`	`you gonna pay for my time?`
`07:18.35`	`JerJer`	`i know nothing about autoconf`
`07:18.43`	`daork`	`i'll do it if you like`
`07:18.46`	`indiam`	`jerjer: is there any reilable server which this channel can suggest`
`07:19.16`	`JerJer`	`daork: how do you plan to account for any number of distro specific issues?`
`07:19.22`	`daork`	`indiam: you want a SIP/VoIP provider?`
`07:19.46`	`daork`	`JerJer: support as many as possible, its better than supporting none :)`
`07:19.56`	`JerJer`	`?!`
`07:20.00`	`many`	`yea, support me.`
`07:20.07`	`JerJer`	`make install is that hard?`
`07:20.15`	`indiam`	`jerjer: SIP only I have another provider who provide me SS7 to sip & sip to SS7`
`07:20.22`	`daork`	`JerJer: you say dont run make install.. ;)`
`07:20.41`	`JerJer`	`indiam: ss7 ?! i think someone is blowing smoke up your ass`
`07:20.54`	`daork`	`7 is the number of 0's`
`07:21.04`	`JerJer`	`daokr: not in the h323/`
`07:21.04`	`indiam`	`jerjer: ss7 or E1`
`07:21.22`	`indiam`	`jerjer: ss7 or E1 to interface with PSTN connectivity`
`07:21.24`	`JerJer`	`big difference between ss7 and e1`
`07:22.16`	`indiam`	`jerjer: what I need to have is a SIP server, where SIP clients can connect and talk each other`
`07:22.35`	`JerJer`	`install asterisk, configure sip.conf`
`07:22.39`	`JerJer`	`and extensions.conf`
`07:23.30`	`indiam`	`jerjer: I'm looking for a server who can allow me to install asterisk and configure the same`
`07:23.51`	`daork`	`you want someone else to host your SIP stuff for you?`
`07:23.54`	`indiam`	`jerjer: I asked my webhoster, and he doesnot allow me to install asterisk on their server`
`07:24.01`	`JerJer`	`we offer multigigabit colocation`
`07:24.05`	`indiam`	`daork: yes`
`07:24.18`	`daork`	`indiam: why dont you run your own server?`
`07:24.35`	`indiam`	`I'm looking for a cheaper option`
`07:24.40`	`indiam`	`and less managing`
`07:24.54`	`indiam`	`if I have my own server, I need to manage everything right`
`07:25.01`	`indiam`	`attacks etc.,`
`07:25.12`	`daork`	`indiam: sure`
`07:25.37`	`JerJer`	`indiam: so basicly u just want someone to let you have a few SIP endpoints talk to`
`07:25.43`	`rpb`	`www.servepath.com has redhat servers you can do anything with.`
`07:25.51`	`JerJer`	`you don't want to deal with server management?`
`07:25.53`	`rpb`	`I have one at less than $100/month.`
`07:26.05`	`daork`	`uk2.net have pretty good ded servers`
`07:26.11`	`daork`	`$29pound/month or so`
`07:26.22`	`daork`	`which is about $US50 ?`
`07:26.33`	`JerJer`	`oh god serverpath.com needs to learn how to peer`
`07:26.51`	`rpb`	`I know, but they do get traffic in and out.`
`07:26.58`	`JerJer`	`not very well`
`07:27.07`	`rpb`	`Can you suggest anyone else who does something similar?`
`07:27.22`	`JerJer`	`you pay for what you get`
`07:27.41`	`rpb`	`yep, it was a quicky emergency thing to do.`
`07:27.47`	`daork`	`rpb: uk2.net.`
`07:27.54`	`indiam`	`is there any server where I can pay and start sip instantly`
`07:28.08`	`daork`	`indiam: you'd have to manage it completely`
`07:28.16`	`JerJer`	`rpb: my company has a real internet connection`
`07:28.23`	`daork`	`indiam: it would just be at someone elses facility`
`07:28.25`	`indiam`	`daork: that is the problem daork`
`07:28.33`	`JerJer`	`not just a t-1 or three from alter.net`
`07:28.48`	`rpb`	`What are your rates?`
`07:28.51`	`indiam`	`daork: i just want to feel free having a sip server and having call details and actions`
`07:28.58`	`JerJer`	`rpb: for what?`
`07:29.12`	`JerJer`	`traceroute to 66.225.202.65`
`07:29.20`	`JerJer`	`then compare to servepath.com`
`07:29.27`	`daork`	`indiam: there are prebuild appliances that do what you want. else, hire a consultant to do it for your perhaps.`
`07:30.02`	`indiam`	`do anyone here provide me the same?`
`07:30.07`	`rpb`	`Actually, what I'd like to do rent access on a few ports of an AS5300 so I can do some inbound outbound email/fax stuff`
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`07:30.23`	`rpb`	`Assign a few did's to it.`
`07:30.41`	`JerJer`	`won't happen`
`07:30.47`	`daork`	`indiam: consulting?`
`07:31.20`	`JerJer`	`rpb: and asterisk's fax skills are not that far off`
`07:31.32`	`rpb`	`Are they workable?`
`07:33.06`	`rpb`	`I've done the Cisco fax stuff before and works well. I havn't tried the * fax yet as it is still new.`
`07:34.16`	`rpb`	`What would be a price for hosting a server, PRI, and a 2600`
`07:34.30`	`rpb`	`price difference for inbound pri vs inbound / outbound pri?`
`07:34.54`	`JerJer`	`we could only provide you with toll-free numbers on the PRI`
`07:35.14`	`JerJer`	`we have a 1meg/1 rack unit specal for $125 a month`
`07:35.45`	`sjs`	`jerjer: you work for server cent?`
`07:36.23`	`JerJer`	`i dont ~work~ for server central`
`07:36.45`	`sjs`	`ah`
`07:39.10`	`rpb`	`JerJer: is that with or without a server?`
`07:39.16`	`JerJer`	`colo`
`07:40.39`	`rpb`	`So 2ru = ?`
`07:40.53`	`JerJer`	`how much bandwidth?`
`07:41.17`	`rpb`	`< 1m total to start, later maybe more`
`07:41.28`	`JerJer`	`we start at one meg`
`07:41.46`	`rpb`	`so 2ru, 1meg total`
`07:43.38`	`JerJer`	`like $175 (colo..ie you provide your own gear)`
`07:44.51`	`rpb`	`On another subject, do you think the recent FCC rumblings on voip is going to affect your per minute pricing?`
`07:45.14`	`rpb`	`Or affect anything else for that matter?`
`07:45.20`	`JerJer`	`nobdy has ruled on anything`
`07:46.10`	`rpb`	`Do you see something happening soon, or is it going to take a while?`
`07:46.24`	`JerJer`	`VoIP will never be regulated`
`07:46.37`	`JerJer`	`they have absolutely no method to control it`
`07:47.22`	`JerJer`	`plus the FCC already passed a referendum (like 3 years ago) that internet regulation (ie taxing) will not be revisied until 2008`
`07:47.37`	`JerJer`	`revisited`
`07:48.07`	`rpb`	`the local telco has a pole up their butt about it, I'll pass this info on.`
`07:48.18`	`JerJer`	`won't do any good`
`07:48.44`	`JerJer`	`the FCC will have a public comment period before anything happens and i'll personally make sure they get flooded with information on why VoIp regulation is a very bad thing`
`07:49.06`	`rpb`	`I think you won't be the only one.`
`07:49.21`	`JerJer`	`along with the fact that if they do regulate it, they will simply cause operators to go underground with it`
`07:50.01`	`rpb`	`But everyone has to connect to the PSTN at one time or another. Albiet less and less. So they do have some means of control, either at the ILEC or CLEC.`
`07:50.16`	`JerJer`	`the internet is fuckin up many ppls business plans`
`07:50.21`	`JerJer`	`esp bells`
`07:50.26`	`JerJer`	`and riaa/mpaa`
`07:50.27`	`rpb`	`yep`
`07:50.35`	`JerJer`	`the PSTN as we know it today will die`
`07:50.49`	`JerJer`	`the internet is going to consume any other medium`
`07:51.17`	`rpb`	`HOw about Microsoft, do you see them dying with their damn DRM thing?`
`07:51.33`	`JerJer`	`its already hacked`
`07:53.14`	`JerJer`	`they'll attempt to patch it and it'll get hacked again`
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`08:03.28`	`JerJer`	`moo`
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`08:18.12`	`Aralan`	`jerjer, would asterisk be sending caller id on the h323 channel in any way other than calling party in the setup message?`
`08:24.25`	`JerJer`	`nope`
`08:24.37`	`JerJer`	`not unless you have a callerid= line in the source channel`
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`08:25.10`	`benjk`	`hi everybody`
`08:26.02`	`benjk`	`It seems the latest CVS broke the build process`
`08:26.18`	`benjk`	`anybody else getting errors building *`
`08:26.19`	`JerJer`	`benjk: have you completely rechecked out everything?`
`08:26.35`	`benjk`	`I have never ever had any errors building asterisk`
`08:27.11`	`benjk`	`there is a bazillion error messages in respect of res_crypto.c`
`08:27.32`	`benjk`	`"dereferencing pointer to incomplete type"`
`08:28.29`	`Aralan`	`jer: how about if it's specified in extensions.conf, i.e. exten=>__91NXXNXXXXXX,1,Dial(H323/${EXTEN:2}/<cidhere>)`
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`08:34.29`	`pcm2`	`hmm, just tested it ... saved some backup and it works so far`
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`09:38.17`	`defian`	`hi, how can I see what happens on a modem interface (especially dial-out) ?`
`09:39.49`	`ScaredyCat`	`magnifying glass?`
`09:39.55`	`defian`	`:->`
`09:39.58`	`daork`	`pick up the phone?`
`09:40.10`	`defian`	I was expecting something like `enable trace modem /dev/ttyI1' for example.
`09:40.19`	`defian`	`so to see the AT commands for instance.`
`09:40.34`	`daork`	`hmm, start asterisk with -vvv ?`
`09:40.38`	`daork`	`i duno, dont ask me`
`09:40.43`	`defian`	`did that, doesn't do that.`
`09:40.46`	`daork`	`im just guessing`
`09:41.02`	`ScaredyCat`	`turn on debug`
`09:41.58`	`ScaredyCat`	`logger.conf`
`09:42.13`	`defian`	`oh, that's interesting, thanks.`
`09:42.22`	`ScaredyCat`	`np`
`09:42.27`	`defian`	`yes`
`09:42.32`	`defian`	`there I get all I need`
`09:49.33`	`defian`	`well, it tells me more, but it doesn't tell me the exact detail of the used commands.`
`09:53.35`	`JerJer`	`-vvvgcp`
`09:56.17`	`defian`	`JerJer: doesn't give the AT commands at least with console=debug`
`09:56.51`	`defian`	`let's see if I can enable this through the kernel`
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`09:57.42`	`defian`	`ISDN_DEBUG_MODEM_VOICE`
`09:57.48`	`defian`	`probably something like this.`
`10:00.01`	`FuzzyCat`	`anyone know where the patch to stop iax channels hanging is...`
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`10:04.58`	`mbranca`	`morning all`
`10:07.28`	`defian`	`hello`
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`10:09.09`	`agm`	`Looking for anyone who has got CISCO phone 7960 to work with ASTERIX. I have never used ASTERIX and I need some advice whether I should`
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`10:09.26`	`daork`	`google, and spell is asterisk.`
`10:09.30`	`daork`	`s/is/it/`
`10:12.23`	`FuzzyCat`	`agm: the cisco 7960 & 7940 work great with asterisk...`
`10:13.16`	`many`	`when they work.`
`10:13.26`	`FuzzyCat`	`mine has always worked...`
`10:13.52`	`mbranca`	`mine too`
`10:13.53`	`FuzzyCat`	`why it no workie many?`
`10:13.56`	`many`	`it didnt boot after flashing to sip v6. :-(`
`10:14.00`	`FuzzyCat`	`:o`
`10:14.08`	`FuzzyCat`	`mbranca: ur's broke?`
`10:14.18`	`mbranca`	`no no, mine works good`
`10:14.21`	`FuzzyCat`	`:)`
`10:14.26`	`mbranca`	`but didn't moved to 6 till now`
`10:14.42`	`many`	`and now i search on how to reflash it. :-/ theres no description for the rs232 port, theres no description for the internal diag port. theres nothing that helps me.`
`10:14.44`	`mbranca`	`and I won't .... since it works :)`
`10:15.23`	`mbranca`	`many: buy a cisco smartnet contract for that phone and call crisco guys ... they'll come and fix it`
`10:15.27`	`mbranca`	`I think...`
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`10:15.39`	`many`	`mbranca: that contract costs how many?`
`10:15.40`	`FuzzyCat`	`many: so it's just sitting there lifeless? or it's part booting?`
`10:16.02`	`many`	`fuzzy: its blinking on the three buttons, but it never comes to displaying anything on the lcd.`
`10:16.09`	`mbranca`	`many: depends on what you need. no more than 100$, btw`
`10:16.24`	`many`	`mbranca: this is my private toy. :/`
`10:16.33`	`mbranca`	`eh eh`
`10:16.45`	`FuzzyCat`	`many: did it actually start the flash process?`
`10:17.05`	`many`	`it flashed fine to three, it flashed fine to four, it did flash to six, but it didnt boot afterwards.`
`10:17.24`	`FuzzyCat`	`does it still try to contact the tftp server when you boot it?`
`10:17.44`	`many`	`someone said it would be VERY BAD to have different sip image lines in SIPdefault and SIPmac, which couldve been the mistake i made.`
`10:17.53`	`many`	`fuzzy: no. it doesnt even contact the dhcp.`
`10:18.29`	`many`	`thats why i hoped that someone had a description for the rs232 \|\| diag port, so one might be able to flash it via zmodem over serial or something.`
`10:18.47`	`many`	`(which isnt uncommon for cisco switches atleast)`
`10:19.37`	`FuzzyCat`	`mmm... in that case... I'd guess that you could take any Cisco cable (the blue flat serial ones) and plug it in...`
`10:19.54`	`FuzzyCat`	`and they usually come with a little adaptor`
`10:19.55`	`many`	`no, since the rs232 is a 6pin one, no ISDN, no cat5.`
`10:20.08`	`many`	`_very_ uncommon.`
`10:20.44`	`FuzzyCat`	`it looks like a standard cisco one to me`
`10:20.56`	`many`	`huh?`
`10:21.17`	`FuzzyCat`	`the rs232 port on the back`
`10:21.27`	`many`	`i have a cyclades cable here, which fits every cisco switch and it doesnt fit the rs232.`
`10:22.35`	`many`	`and iam pretty sure that any cat5 actually fits any cisco switch, but it does certainly not fit that rs232.`
`10:23.58`	`[Sim]`	`morning guys`
`10:24.50`	`FuzzyCat`	`morning [Sim]`
`10:26.11`	`mbranca`	`morning`
`10:27.12`	`mbranca`	`asterisk over wi-fi :)`
`10:29.51`	`[Sim]`	`fun :)`
`10:30.00`	`[Sim]`	`now for a halfway decent and affordable wiphone :)`
`10:30.02`	`FuzzyCat`	`is CVS for today 'safe' ?`
`10:30.59`	`[Sim]`	`only if you try with '-r r0_5_0' ;-)`
`10:31.16`	`mbranca`	`lol`
`10:31.21`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: I think yes.`
`10:31.24`	`[Sim]`	`honestly, I dont know, havent tried this morning. but let me know, ok ? :-)))`
`10:31.43`	`mbranca`	`Tested it yesterday and new tonite mods are safe`
`10:32.08`	`mbranca`	`lol`
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`10:33.31`	`mbranca`	`24 dbi wireless antenna.... c00l :)`
`10:33.44`	`mbranca`	`asterisk over wi-fi in 3 km range :)`
`10:34.07`	`FuzzyCat`	`wtf`
`10:34.16`	`FuzzyCat`	`cvs update: checksum failure after patch to ./zttool.c; will refetch`
`10:34.16`	`FuzzyCat`	`cvs client: refetching unpatchable files`
`10:34.16`	`mbranca`	`wtfw?`
`10:34.27`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: lol`
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`10:34.53`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: did you already moved to new cvs tree? if not, you must do a new cvs checkout, not update`
`10:35.04`	`FuzzyCat`	`ahh.....`
`10:35.41`	`mbranca`	`RTFML !`
`10:35.42`	`mbranca`	`:)`
`10:35.49`	`daork`	`i need to get a good ip phone for my ipaq, then i'll be able to do wireless ipphones :)`
`10:35.50`	`FuzzyCat`	`so how different is the tree`
`10:35.59`	`mbranca`	`very different`
`10:36.11`	`mbranca`	`version numbers have changed, more history and so on`
`10:36.15`	`FuzzyCat`	`so it's going to fuck it all up`
`10:36.22`	`mbranca`	`eh eh`
`10:39.22`	`FuzzyCat`	`so, errm this is going to fuck up my g729 codec install isnt it`
`10:39.31`	`mbranca`	`no, why?`
`10:39.59`	`mbranca`	`g729 has nothing to do with cvs version numbers :)`
`10:40.13`	`FuzzyCat`	`because if i blow away the old tree then the licencing gets fucked`
`10:40.16`	`mbranca`	`it's only a cvs problem. there aren't many changes in cvs`
`10:41.02`	`many`	`fuzzy: so what does your cable say? :)`
`10:41.18`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: mmmh.... really, I didn't tried that`
`10:41.29`	`FuzzyCat`	`not much, just looks like a flat cat5 cable`
`10:41.51`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: but try... you can license your codec 3 times before it gets fucked`
`10:42.09`	`FuzzyCat`	`or 6 if you phone up and confess to fucking it up`
`10:42.21`	`FuzzyCat`	`but not at the weekend...`
`10:42.23`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: btw, I didn't know that g729 was tied with * src dir....`
`10:43.07`	`FuzzyCat`	`well, last time I blew away my src it killed the g729 install`
`10:44.42`	`mbranca`	`that's weird.... why g729 guys don't put a license file somewhere, without being tied with src dir...`
`10:44.44`	`mbranca`	`bah`
`10:45.02`	`FuzzyCat`	`yeah, well they were pretty good about it....`
`10:45.27`	`FuzzyCat`	`but the worrying thing is they have to reset sommat at THEIR end`
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`10:47.11`	`FuzzyCat`	`[root@ASTERISK src]# cd asterisk`
`10:47.11`	`FuzzyCat`	`[root@ASTERISK asterisk]# make clean; make install`
`10:47.11`	`FuzzyCat`	`Makefile:318: *** missing separator. Stop.`
`10:47.14`	`gorman`	`hi rajo`
`10:49.31`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: here works ok... are u sure you're in the right dir and did a 'rm -fR asterisk; cvs co asterisk' ?`
`10:56.04`	`rajo`	`guten morgen �:)`
`10:56.17`	`many`	`huomenta ;)`
`10:57.39`	`FuzzyCat`	`hey, where are all the errors....`
`10:57.52`	`many`	`fuzzy: bsd?`
`10:57.57`	`FuzzyCat`	`they sorta made me confortable....`
`10:57.58`	`FuzzyCat`	`no`
`10:58.15`	`many`	`huh. missing seperator usually tells that you are using pmake instead of gmake.`
`10:59.34`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: works^`
`10:59.35`	`mbranca`	`?`
`10:59.51`	`FuzzyCat`	`well it gets futher...`
`11:00.00`	`FuzzyCat`	`but I just know I've lost g729`
`11:00.21`	`JerJer`	`FuzzyCat: put the binary back in there`
`11:01.23`	`FuzzyCat`	`the Registration one Je?`
`11:01.29`	`FuzzyCat`	`JerJer:`
`11:01.32`	`JerJer`	`no the so`
`11:01.35`	`JerJer`	`hmm`
`11:01.46`	`JerJer`	`but you might have to re-reg`
`11:01.51`	`JerJer`	`kinda doubt though`
`11:03.07`	`mbranca`	`:)`
`11:03.20`	`mbranca`	`so we can ge rid of these annoying reg features....`
`11:03.35`	`voidptr`	`morning`
`11:03.39`	`mbranca`	`moooo`
`11:04.51`	`JerJer`	`mbranca: its not very difficult, try it..you mightt be surpised what you find`
`11:05.47`	`mbranca`	`JerJer: :) ... I'll do for sure`
`11:08.55`	`FuzzyCat`	`JerJer: what's the easyist was to ensure the codec it loaded an licenced ok? if I can do a 'g.729 show license usage' is that enuff to show that it's ok?`
`11:09.15`	`JerJer`	`yep if g.729 anything shows up in the cli then its loaded`
`11:09.33`	`JerJer`	`go like g.<tab> in the lic`
`11:09.37`	`JerJer`	`cli`
`11:09.56`	`FuzzyCat`	`ok, well in that case I was bitching for no reason...`
`11:18.17`	`mbranca`	`nope`
`11:18.20`	`mbranca`	`me too`
`11:18.37`	`FuzzyCat`	`hahaha`
`11:21.20`	`mbranca`	`poor levon`
`11:21.25`	`mbranca`	`~kill FuzzyCat`
`11:21.28`		`ACTION slits FuzzyCat's throat`
`11:21.40`	`mbranca`	`levon is my friend!`
`11:21.43`	`mbranca`	`:)`
`11:21.46`	`FuzzyCat`	`ppfft`
`11:23.08`	`FuzzyCat`	`mbranca: gimmie the first 7 digits of ur phone no... (including country code)`
`11:23.34`	`mbranca`	`+3933513`
`11:23.56`	`FuzzyCat`	`[root@ASTERISK root]# /usr/src/examples/fpc/mysql/lookup 3933513`
`11:23.56`	`FuzzyCat`	`Connecting to MySQL...`
`11:23.56`	`FuzzyCat`	`Location: Italy Mobile`
`11:23.56`	`FuzzyCat`	`Closest Match: 393`
`11:24.02`	`FuzzyCat`	`mobile?`
`11:24.07`	`mbranca`	`yep`
`11:24.16`	`mbranca`	`but is 335 the mobile prefix`
`11:24.21`	`mbranca`	`wrong db :)`
`11:24.52`	`FuzzyCat`	`huh? 39 = italy, 3 is moby`
`11:25.13`	`mbranca`	`yep, but there're several operators...`
`11:25.27`	`voidptr`	`great`
`11:25.27`	`voidptr`	`:P`
`11:25.34`	`voidptr`	`to make it simple i guess`
`11:25.41`	`mbranca`	`in italy 335 operator != 393 op`
`11:25.50`	`FuzzyCat`	`yah, well provide me with the breakdown and I'll add em mbranca`
`11:26.16`	`mbranca`	`[root@astro temp]# /usr/local/bastard/bin/bastard`
`11:26.17`	`mbranca`	`================================================================================ B A S T A R D disassembly environment`
`11:26.17`	`mbranca`	`<PROTECTED>`
`11:26.17`	`mbranca`	`;>`
`11:26.17`	`mbranca`	`;>l`
`11:26.18`	`mbranca`	`Error 4500: Target does not exist`
`11:26.22`	`mbranca`	`;>l codec_g729b.so`
`11:26.24`	`mbranca`	`Disassembling named symbols. Instruction stack:`
`11:26.26`	`mbranca`	`Disassembling forward from entry point. Instruction stack:`
`11:26.30`	`mbranca`	`Disassembling remainder of code section. Sections:`
`11:26.32`	`mbranca`	`eh eh`
`11:26.34`	`mbranca`	`sorry for the flood`
`11:26.50`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: I must have them somewhere....`
`11:26.58`	`FuzzyCat`	`:)`
`11:27.22`	`voidptr`	`mbranca : gethdserial maybe a place to start? :)`
`11:27.31`	`benjk`	`can somebody explain to me why ssh is broken on just about every linux box ?`
`11:27.39`	`benjk`	`and how this can be fixed?`
`11:27.42`	`FuzzyCat`	`define broken?`
`11:27.44`	`mbranca`	`benjk ssh on linux works ok`
`11:27.58`	`benjk`	`well, it hangs depending on the content that comes through`
`11:27.58`	`voidptr`	`benjk: because you use the wrong distro's? :)`
`11:28.06`	`mbranca`	`benjk: never here`
`11:28.12`	`mbranca`	`perhaps on jp linux :)`
`11:28.12`	`voidptr`	`here neither`
`11:28.41`	`benjk`	`SuSE 8.2 and RH9`
`11:28.56`	`benjk`	`upgraded to the latest ssh patches`
`11:29.11`	`benjk`	`if I do cd /etc/asterisk and ls`
`11:29.12`	`benjk`	`it hangs`
`11:29.19`	`benjk`	`after printing the first lines`
`11:29.23`	`mbranca`	`benjk: I use rh9 and never hangs`
`11:29.29`	`benjk`	`it doesn't do that in other directories`
`11:29.39`	`mbranca`	`benjk: on what platform are you using ssh?`
`11:29.45`	`benjk`	`also, vi extentions.conf hangs`
`11:29.52`	`voidptr`	`crappy connection`
`11:29.52`	`benjk`	`vi sip.conf doesnt'`
`11:29.53`	`voidptr`	`:)`
`11:30.14`	`benjk`	`always the same files and the same commands that make it hang`
`11:30.21`	`FuzzyCat`	`roflmao!!!!`
`11:30.59`	`benjk`	`the connections is not the problem because I have the same on a LAN connection with a total CAT5 cable length of 2 meters`
`11:31.07`	`mbranca`	`benjk: client? using putty, perhaps ?`
`11:31.21`	`benjk`	`putty? what's that?`
`11:31.23`	`mbranca`	`or running from X?`
`11:31.42`	`mbranca`	`I mean, running ssh in a x term`
`11:31.44`	`benjk`	`using commandline, then ssh benjamin@remotehost`
`11:31.58`	`mbranca`	`benjk from X or plain console?`
`11:32.34`	`benjk`	`from Aqua on the Powerbook and getting the same from SuSE desktop with System->Shells->bash`
`11:33.13`	`mbranca`	`mmh... I noticed that when ssh'ing from a x-term... try to ssh from a plain console (ctrl+alt+f1 or whatever) and try again`
`11:33.57`	`benjk`	`but on the Powerbook I am not using X windows`
`11:34.14`	`mbranca`	`ah ok`
`11:34.17`	`benjk`	`just Terminal.app under Aqua`
`11:34.25`	`mbranca`	`so is powerbook fault :)`
`11:34.29`	`benjk`	`also, this only happens when connecting to a linux host`
`11:35.00`	`benjk`	`connecting to a BSD host on the same network as the linux hosts are does not show any such behaviour`
`11:35.45`	`benjk`	`Linux-box ----ssh------>Linux-box ==> ssh hangs depending on content`
`11:36.05`	`benjk`	`Linix-box ---ssh------->BSD box ==> ssh is fine`
`11:36.33`	`benjk`	`OSX PowerBook ----ssh-----> Linux box ==> ssh hangs depending on content`
`11:36.52`	`benjk`	`OSX Powerbook ---ssh----> BSD box ===> ssh is fine`
`11:37.18`	`benjk`	`Linux-box ---ssh----> OSX Powerbook ==> ssh is fine`
`11:37.29`	`citats`	`benjk: check MTU on your ethernet interfaces`
`11:37.31`	`benjk`	`so, what do I make of this>?`
`11:37.55`	`benjk`	`all set to 1454 as is standard in Japan`
`11:38.07`	`benjk`	`with PPPoE`
`11:38.26`	`citats`	`i didn't think there were different MTU 'standards' in other countries`
`11:38.42`	`citats`	`ahhh PPPoE, where does that come into play on your network?`
`11:38.48`	`benjk`	`typically MTU is 1492 for PPPoE, but in Japan it's 1454`
`11:39.26`	`benjk`	`PPPoE is what the router uses to get out to the internet`
`11:39.47`	`citats`	`at least are all your MTUs on your boxes set the same?`
`11:39.58`	`benjk`	`however, I cannot tell the NICs to use 1454 only if the destination host is off-net and 1500 when the destination host is also on the same LAN`
`11:40.14`	`benjk`	`yes, they are all the same`
`11:40.34`	`benjk`	`to me this looks like a fluke with ssh itself`
`11:40.47`	`citats`	`thats good... mostly eliminates MTU problems... i'd say fire up tcpdump/ethereal/tethereal and see what the packets are doing`
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`11:41.11`	`citats`	`i doubt its a fluke in ssh, you like have the same problem with other protocols that use the same type/size of packets`
`11:41.21`	`zigman`	`moin everyone`
`11:41.27`	`citats`	`gotta sleep now`
`11:42.05`	`benjk`	`no, I have had these ssh problems for quite a while and never had any trouble with any other stuff`
`11:42.23`	`zigman`	`benjk i guess the problem is the linux box you are sshing to`
`11:42.25`	`benjk`	`could it be the router?`
`11:42.40`	`benjk`	`but it is every linux box, not just that one`
`11:42.46`	`citats`	`benjk: if its on the same subnet it should never hit the router`
`11:43.00`	`benjk`	`whenever the destination I am sshing to is a linux box, then I have this problem`
`11:43.16`	`zigman`	`thats odd`
`11:43.22`	`benjk`	`very odd`
`11:43.35`	`zigman`	`what distro ?`
`11:43.43`	`benjk`	`SuSE 8.2 and RH9`
`11:43.43`	`zigman`	`is you OSX`
`11:43.47`	`zigman`	`ahh k`
`11:44.21`	`benjk`	`at first I thought it was the tunnel, but I have the same problem on the local LAN`
`11:44.52`	`zigman`	`you linux box and the oSX powerbook are 2 different machines ?`
`11:44.54`	`benjk`	`probably have to install telnet`
`11:44.59`	`benjk`	`yes`
`11:45.31`	`zigman`	`what about you powerbook ssh into YOUR linux box ?`
`11:46.23`	`benjk`	`LAN-A: Powerbook (OSX), G4 (OSX), 2x IBM (SuSE 8.2), 3x IBM (RH9)`
`11:47.53`	`benjk`	`LAN-B: iBook (OSX), 2x Xserve (1xOSX/1xBSD), 1x IBM (RH9), 1xFujitsu x86 (RH9)`
`11:48.17`	`benjk`	`I have an IPsec tunnel between A and B`
`11:49.01`	`benjk`	`however, no matter what combination, going through the tunnel or local, whenever the destination host is Linux then ssh freaks out depending on the content`
`11:49.08`	`benjk`	`this is so weird`
`11:52.04`	`zigman`	`depending on the content ?`
`11:52.13`	`zigman`	`explain that a little more pls`
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`11:58.18`	`kapejod`	`morning`
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`12:01.40`	`mbranca`	`morning kapejod`
`12:02.10`	`kapejod`	`lunch in the early morning?`
`12:03.02`	`mbranca`	`lol`
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`12:09.09`	`mbranca`	`rajo is undecided`
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`12:10.14`	`mbranca`	`rajo has quit, rajo has joined, rajo has quit, rajo ha joined...`
`12:10.16`	`mbranca`	`:)`
`12:10.47`	`kapejod`	`he is trying to get our attention ;-)`
`12:11.01`	`mbranca`	`eh eh`
`12:11.22`	`rajo`	`no, just the wrong keyboard-shurtcuts and then an X-crash :(`
`12:11.34`	`mbranca`	`lol`
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`12:12.26`	`kapejod`	`morning mr. RoyK_T, sir.`
`12:12.32`	`kapejod`	`how is your flu?`
`12:13.36`	`RoyK_T`	`gone by the wind`
`12:13.42`	`kapejod`	`good`
`12:14.00`	`RoyK_T`	`but I'm only in for a short 'hi'. going out to get my old/new O2`
`12:14.01`	`RoyK_T`	`:D`
`12:14.53`	`levon`	`morning world`
`12:15.02`	`kapejod`	`morning mr. levon, sir`
`12:15.08`	`levon`	`meep`
`12:15.13`	`kapejod`	`meep meep`
`12:15.16`	`levon`	`at ease, mr. kapejod, sir ;)`
`12:15.50`	`RoyK_T`	`.-. --- -.-- \| -.-- .- .-.- .-.- .. -. -.-`
`12:15.58`	`levon`	`godmorgen RoyK_T`
`12:16.06`	`RoyK_T`	`morgen...`
`12:16.14`	`RoyK_T`	`baibai`
`12:17.06`	`levon`	`ciao mbranca ;)`
`12:17.20`	`mbranca`	`ciao levon`
`12:17.25`	`voidptr`	`i'm off`
`12:17.35`	`voidptr`	`have a good day`
`12:17.40`	`levon`	`U 2, void.`
`12:17.56`	`levon`	`yumm.`
`12:17.58`	`kapejod`	`what else .. ;)`
`12:18.03`	`levon`	`;)`
`12:19.45`	`voidptr`	`pizzo`
`12:19.47`	`voidptr`	`a`
`12:19.48`	`voidptr`	`bleh`
`12:21.34`	`kapejod`	`FYI, codecs on the 1ghz C3:`
`12:21.39`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.39`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.39`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.40`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.40`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.41`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.41`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.43`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.45`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.47`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.49`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:21.51`	`kapejod`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:22.05`	`levon`	`~slice kapejod`
`12:22.09`	`levon`	`~kill kapejod`
`12:22.12`		`ACTION slits kapejod's throat`
`12:22.13`	`levon`	`bah`
`12:22.17`	`levon`	`;)`
`12:22.37`	`kapejod`	`:-P`
`12:22.50`	`levon`	`brb`
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`12:27.49`	`defian`	`a`
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`12:31.25`	`joe_satrinani`	`hi all`
`12:31.39`	`kapejod`	`hi joe`
`12:35.20`	`joe_satrinani`	`hi kapejod: is any newer version of chan_capi in the latesta 3 weeks ?`
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`12:36.25`	`kapejod`	`0.3.0 is the latest`
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`12:37.32`	`joe_satrinani`	`how can I see on cli> che capi version i'm using ?`
`12:37.58`	`kapejod`	`you cant ;)`
`12:38.26`	`FuzzyCat`	`there's a rat in me kitchen what am i gonna do...`
`12:38.36`	`joe_satrinani`	`kapejod: i'm using chan_capi-0.2.5c`
`12:39.01`	`kapejod`	`update to 0.3.0 and enjoy echo squelching`
`12:39.03`	`joe_satrinani`	`kapejod: I need to download it and recompile it and its work ?`
`12:39.40`	`kapejod`	`yes`
`12:40.12`	`joe_satrinani`	`kapejod: in order to mantain asterisk alway updated, which is the best way to do it ?`
`12:40.50`	`kapejod`	`i think it's not a good idea to always update to the latest * cvs`
`12:41.31`	`joe_satrinani`	`KAPEJOD: what u suggest me to do ?`
`12:42.00`	`kapejod`	`find a version that works stable for you and dont update unless you need features that are in the cvs`
`12:42.30`	`levon`	`<PROTECTED>`
`12:45.24`	`joe_satrinani`	`Is anybody who wants to teach me in wrinting extension.conf ?`
`12:45.37`	`Zoa`	`for every bug fixed, 2 news appear in cvs :)`
`12:47.52`	`levon`	`zoa ;)`
`12:48.18`	`fuzzle`	`anyone has asterisk working on radius?`
`12:48.21`	`levon`	`joe_satrinani, the sample extension conf is very explanatory and contains a lot of different scenarions.`
`12:48.22`	`fuzzle`	`~seen Nix`
`12:48.23`		`nix <~Nix@195.174.9.152> was last seen on IRC in channel #asterisk, 22h 14m 3s ago, saying: 'you need a callback AGI script?'.`
`12:48.38`	`levon`	`s/rions/rios/`
`12:51.48`	`benjk`	`zigman: sorry I was away for dinner`
`12:52.32`	`benjk`	`depending on content means that ssh freezes only when particular content is coming through`
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`12:53.00`	`benjk`	`like doing ls in /etc/asterisk will freeze`
`12:53.20`	`benjk`	`but ls in /var/lib/asterisk/sounds doesn't`
`12:53.57`	`benjk`	`vi extentions.conf will freeze the session, vi sip.conf doesn't`
`12:58.51`	`levon`	`ssh freezes dependant on content? I never heard anything like that...`
`12:58.59`	`benjk`	`neither have I`
`12:59.11`	`benjk`	`I can only tell you what happens`
`13:00.58`	`levon`	`meep`
`13:01.26`	`FuzzyCat`	`:D`
`13:02.30`	`benjk`	`now using telnet, and that works without any freezes in all the scenarios where ssh froze the session`
`13:02.51`	`benjk`	`I guess ssh is flaky on those target systems`
`13:03.44`	`blitzrage`	`it's now 8am here.. goodnight all :)`
`13:04.00`	`blitzrage`	`and now I must sleep.`
`13:06.56`	`izo`	`anyone with cisco here ?`
`13:07.07`	`defian`	`cu`
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`13:09.16`	`levon`	`wb RoyK_T`
`13:10.25`	`izo`	`levon dont you have any cisco around ?`
`13:10.41`	`levon`	`actually I do, iso`
`13:10.48`	`levon`	`s/iso/izo`
`13:10.49`	`levon`	`;)`
`13:10.52`	`izo`	`;-)`
`13:10.52`	`kapejod`	`he needs his cisco to make test calls for me ;)`
`13:11.08`	`izo`	`can you make some test for me to /`
`13:11.11`	`izo`	`;-)`
`13:11.23`	`izo`	`which box do you have`
`13:12.00`	`izo`	`i need someone to call me with h323 and g729`
`13:12.05`	`izo`	`from cisco`
`13:13.00`	`levon`	`ciao mattheo`
`13:13.01`	`mbranca`	`yummy`
`13:13.06`	`mbranca`	`matteo ... -h`
`13:13.12`	`levon`	`oops`
`13:13.14`	`levon`	`sorry ;)`
`13:13.15`	`mbranca`	`eh eh`
`13:13.49`	`mbranca`	`:)`
`13:14.40`	`bevins`	`-`
`13:15.31`	`[Barney]`	`with h323 ... do you need to run a seperate gatekeeper, or can * do everything?`
`13:15.45`	`izo`	`you can do gw2gw`
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`13:24.27`	`mbranca`	`~h323`
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`13:30.11`	`miller7`	`hello ppl`
`13:30.22`	`levon`	`hello pepp ;)`
`13:30.24`	`levon`	`peep ;)`
`13:30.30`	`miller7`	`:)`
`13:30.57`	`mbranca`	`pee?`
`13:31.03`	`levon`	`nah`
`13:31.47`	`levon`	`... now what's next on the menu...`
`13:32.41`	`levon`	`shit!`
`13:32.50`	`levon`	`i didn't make any diffs before cvs changes!`
`13:32.52`	`levon`	`baahh!`
`13:33.04`	`izo`	`soo... ?`
`13:33.34`	`levon`	`now I gotta pick all my patches out by hand and repatch it into the new cvs tree.`
`13:33.46`	`mbranca`	`eh eh`
`13:33.53`	`mbranca`	`levon: use your own cvs`
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`13:34.08`	`tim27`	`hello everyone :)`
`13:34.19`	`izo`	`levon :btw did you fix the random crash issue ?`
`13:34.29`	`izo`	`hi tim27`
`13:34.39`	`mbranca`	`hi tim27`
`13:34.47`	`tim27`	`hello izo and mbranca :)`
`13:35.11`	`izo`	`mbranca : how do you update own repository with main * tree ?`
`13:35.26`	`levon`	`hmmm`
`13:35.44`	`tim27`	`i'M a newbie and hear about gastman, any of us know a site about it ( i did a search but dont find mush) i would like to see screen shot and a tutorial, or manual...`
`13:35.55`	`izo`	`tim27 : no such thing`
`13:36.01`	`levon`	`tim27, there is almost nothing on gastman, except compile and run!`
`13:36.04`	`levon`	`it just works ;)`
`13:36.14`	`izo`	`or doesnt ;-)`
`13:36.23`	`levon`	`it does here ;)`
`13:36.43`	`levon`	`I'm using it for over half a year to have a graphical real time monitor of all channels.`
`13:36.48`	`izo`	`really ?`
`13:36.51`	`levon`	`sure`
`13:36.54`	`izo`	`hm`
`13:36.56`	`izo`	`interesting`
`13:37.06`	`levon`	`you can even transfer with "drag & drop"`
`13:37.19`	`levon`	`or move a call to the trash with drag&drop`
`13:37.19`	`izo`	`nice`
`13:37.20`	`levon`	`it's sweet`
`13:37.34`	`izo`	`the icons are funny that i have 2 admint`
`13:37.40`	`levon`	`hehe, yeah ;)`
`13:37.46`	`levon`	`I've made some extensions.`
`13:37.51`	`levon`	`my boss is the one with the boss icon`
`13:37.52`	`levon`	`;)`
`13:38.01`	`levon`	`and I am the geek with the big eyes sitting on the computer`
`13:38.04`	`levon`	`it just fits ;)`
`13:38.09`	`tim27`	`levon : if I understand well well you can use it to monitor the whole asterisk pbx, ei know which line is on call and which extension... there is a way to have something like that on a SIP phone or ADSI phone with a LCD ???`
`13:38.12`	`izo`	`:-)`
`13:38.55`	`levon`	`tim27, monitoring information? only if your sip or adsi phones support something like "display arbitrary data on lcd", but then the channel drivers have to be hacked up`
`13:39.35`	`levon`	`in the SIP protocol, however, there are some nice features which should allow paging messages to phones, but I don't know if (I don't think) those features are implemented yet.`
`13:40.09`	`tim27`	`if you use KEY analog phone system, or panasonic, toshibas, nortel, and most brand you can see on the phone... which line are in use and pick the one you want ... and see which extension are in use too...`
`13:40.28`	`mbranca`	`levon: nope. I have a phone that supports paging, but is useless with *`
`13:40.41`	`izo`	`mbranca : sip one ?`
`13:40.51`	`levon`	`tim27, like I say, only with proper support of the channel driver`
`13:40.51`	`mbranca`	`tim27: these are proprietary functions of pbx'es`
`13:40.57`	`mbranca`	`izo: yep`
`13:41.17`	`levon`	`hmmm..`
`13:41.18`	`mbranca`	`izo: sending txt messages via sip, like sms :)`
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`13:41.28`	`tim27`	`when you speak about channel driver you speak about drivers for the phone ... or asterisk drivers ???`
`13:41.29`	`levon`	`my next graphics card is gonna be a quad-head card for sure...`
`13:41.43`	`mbranca`	`lol`
`13:41.48`	`izo`	`levon: I have single one :-(`
`13:41.53`	`frollo`	`hi all`
`13:41.59`	`izo`	`hi frollo`
`13:42.04`	`levon`	`tim27, * has a modular architecture. there is a channel driver for each type of channel (SIP, ZAP, CAPI, H323, and the list goes on)`
`13:42.35`	`levon`	`izo: I have two 19" CRTs with 1600x1200 each and I still have trouble with not enough space ;)`
`13:42.39`	`tim27`	`so in other word ... i have to know how adsi phone work and write drivers for them ??? for my application`
`13:42.49`	`levon`	`?`
`13:42.58`	`frollo`	`Hi guys someone that can help me configuring my fxo card? I loaded the driver but i don't know....`
`13:43.09`	`levon`	`tim27, erm, adsi phones are supported by *.`
`13:43.21`	`tim27`	`i know they are supported...`
`13:43.25`	`levon`	`but still it depends on the FXS card you use.`
`13:43.43`	`mbranca`	`for adsi, you just need to write adsi software that will read info from * and feed it to the phone`
`13:43.48`	`levon`	`don't ask me too much about adsi ;)`
`13:43.48`	`tim27`	`but i will have to write change the scripts to show what i want...`
`13:43.55`	`mbranca`	`tim27: yep`
`13:44.08`	`tim27`	`:) nice project for a newbie`
`13:44.08`	`mbranca`	`but adsi programming specs are $$$$$`
`13:45.02`	`tim27`	`i will have first to setup my asterisk box... after that ... the time will past... and maybe someone will have the same need ... and one more and one more ... and we will see a soft...`
`13:45.16`	`FuzzyCat`	`huh?!`
`13:45.39`	`tim27`	`my setup will be 3 FXO, and X 8 phones...`
`13:45.42`	`FuzzyCat`	`adsi sucks`
`13:46.01`	`frollo`	`tim27: the issue is that there are not so many examples in the handbook :/`
`13:46.16`	`mbranca`	`adsi could be fun, if the programmings specs were less expensive....`
`13:46.36`	`tim27`	`can i mix analog phone and SIP phone ... to make call on fxo... i emailed digium and they told me i will get echo on SIP phone when the will acces the FXO port...`
`13:47.17`	`tim27`	`mbranca why the programming specs is expensive ???`
`13:47.19`	`levon`	`tim27, as * is modular, every channel type can call every channel type.`
`13:47.36`	`levon`	`tim27, there have been some reports on echo in that configuration, true`
`13:47.51`	`tim27`	`because i have two site`
`13:48.07`	`tim27`	`and a wirless network between both...`
`13:48.18`	`FuzzyCat`	`just look at app progadsi...`
`13:48.32`	`mbranca`	`tim27: because adsi is a proprietary standard and you must pay to obtain books & specs for adsi language`
`13:48.54`	`mbranca`	`FuzzyCat: could be an headache for newbies :)`
`13:48.55`	`tim27`	`mbranca same think for SIP phone ???`
`13:49.00`	`mbranca`	`nope`
`13:49.08`	`FuzzyCat`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:49.15`	`levon`	`;)`
`13:49.27`	`tim27`	`i saw on the web that there is same SIP phone with softkey to program and big LCD...`
`13:49.43`	`mbranca`	`SIP == protocol ; ADSI == protocol + scripting language. there's no langage in SIP :)`
`13:49.46`	`tim27`	`possible to program something on thoses keys ???`
`13:49.58`	`levon`	`tim27, that always depends on the phone itself`
`13:50.12`	`tim27`	`just a min will check the web site...`
`13:51.28`	`frollo`	`someone can tell me in which file FXO card has to be configured ?`
`13:51.54`	`tim27`	`http://www.sayson.com/ ... check the IP phone on this page it look very similar to the aastra 480 ADSI phone except it's will be on IP`
`13:52.10`	`FuzzyCat`	`it's been fixed`
`13:52.54`	`tim27`	`they call it the 480i... as i can see the 6 softkey on the phone are programmed...`
`13:53.19`	`tim27`	`We also welcome Developers of telephony applications to partner with us to create innovative features and functions for this product.`
`13:53.43`	`tim27`	`and i saw some other phone like this on the web...`
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`13:54.27`	`tim27`	`anyone saw the web page ???`
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`13:54.59`	`tim27`	`i think the phone use XLM`
`13:57.10`	`tim27`	`mbranca, levon, and FussyCat, any feedback ???`
`13:57.43`	`frollo`	`Zap/1 is my only analog FXO card or not?`
`13:59.39`	`tim27`	`levon you there ???`
`13:59.52`	`levon`	`yes I am, tim27`
`14:00.09`	`tim27`	`did you check the sayson web site`
`14:00.18`	`levon`	`no`
`14:00.31`	`levon`	`I don't care for adsi ;)`
`14:01.00`	`tim27`	`it not a adsi phone`
`14:01.05`	`tim27`	`it a IP phone`
`14:01.21`	`tim27`	`i think it will use XLM`
`14:01.27`	`tim27`	`as programming`
`14:01.55`	`levon`	`dunno about XLM`
`14:02.05`	`tim27`	`levon : what is your phone system setup... (cards you use , number of line , and type of phone`
`14:02.11`	`levon`	`I'm waiting for the BTXML support on ciscos.`
`14:02.25`	`tim27`	`what will be this ???`
`14:02.30`	`levon`	`tim27, PRI and some BRIs.`
`14:02.34`	`levon`	`some cisco 7960s`
`14:02.46`	`levon`	`it's a zoo ;)`
`14:02.59`	`tim27`	`cisco phone seem to look good... but are expensive...`
`14:03.09`	`levon`	`but very well crafted`
`14:03.12`	`tim27`	`what is PRI... a digital phone line ???`
`14:03.21`	`levon`	`~pri`
`14:03.33`	`tim27`	`for my setup just 3 line can i have something on digital ???`
`14:03.40`	`tim27`	`or it will be too expensive ???`
`14:03.46`	`frollo`	`PRI is 32 channel for 64K each`
`14:04.06`	`WizardX`	`PRI, depending where you are can be expensive or reasonale`
`14:04.12`	`tim27`	`canada`
`14:04.17`	`WizardX`	`in the US it is 23+1`
`14:04.30`	`tim27`	`?? $$$`
`14:04.33`	`WizardX`	`you would have, 30+1`
`14:04.44`	`frollo`	`two channel are for control so you can use only 30 for voice`
`14:04.57`	`levon`	`~pri is Primary Rate Interface, often called T1 or E1 (European Standard). E1 offers 30 ISDN B-Channels a 64kBit/s + 1 D-Channel with 64kBit/s. The T1 has 23 B-Channels + 1 D-Channel.`
`14:04.58`		`okay, levon`
`14:05.02`	`WizardX`	`I dunno about canada, but I can get a a PRI from SBC for about 500 MRC`
`14:05.16`	`frollo`	`in my town in italy they cost 3000 dollar per month without traffic :/`
`14:05.18`	`WizardX`	`T1 and PRI are dif`
`14:05.18`	`levon`	`~pri is Primary Rate Interface, often called T1 or E1 (European Standard). E1 offers 30 ISDN B-Channels a 64kBit/s + 1 D-Channel with 64kBit/s. The T1 has 23 B-Channels + 1 D-Channel. Cards to use with *: T100P, E100P, TE410P, etc.`
`14:05.21`		`...but pri is already something else...`
`14:05.22`	`levon`	`~forget pri`
`14:05.23`		`levon: i forgot pri`
`14:05.25`	`levon`	`~pri is Primary Rate Interface, often called T1 or E1 (European Standard). E1 offers 30 ISDN B-Channels a 64kBit/s + 1 D-Channel with 64kBit/s. The T1 has 23 B-Channels + 1 D-Channel. Cards to use with *: T100P, E100P, TE410P, etc.`
`14:05.29`		`okay, levon`
`14:05.40`	`tim27`	`T1 is for data and voice ... PRI is only for voice or both...`
`14:05.48`	`levon`	`tim27, non sense ;)`
`14:05.49`	`WizardX`	`ISDN PRI runs on top of a T1`
`14:06.02`	`WizardX`	`T1 is just physical line`
`14:06.10`	`WizardX`	`think of PRI as an application`
`14:06.18`	`tim27`	`i can't have just the ISDN ... alone`
`14:06.23`	`tim27`	`i need the T1`
`14:06.29`	`tim27`	`so i need monney :)`
`14:06.36`	`WizardX`	`PRI is brought in over a T1`
`14:06.45`	`mbranca`	`levon: E1 doesn't have 31 bchan + 1 dchan?`
`14:06.51`	`levon`	`no, mbranca, only 30.`
`14:06.52`	`WizardX`	`no`
`14:07.02`	`WizardX`	`from what I have seen, only 30`
`14:07.08`	`mbranca`	`levon: k, thanks`
`14:07.09`	`WizardX`	`why, I dunno`
`14:07.11`	`frollo`	`mbranca: E1 has 30 channel that you can use`
`14:07.19`	`levon`	`(with colt telecom only 28, because they need 2 chans (128kBit) for maintaining their terminator hardware ;))`
`14:07.24`	`WizardX`	`anyone know why?`
`14:07.31`	`WizardX`	`WTF`
`14:07.39`	`mbranca`	`frollo: yep... I always make mistake with e1 ... don't remeber if 30 or 31 :)`
`14:07.43`	`frollo`	`levon: i guess you pay less :)`
`14:07.46`	`tim27`	`and PRI have less echo with SIP phone than use a FXO ???`
`14:08.06`	`mbranca`	`~cvs`
`14:08.07`		`well, cvs is on cvs.digium.com . find on http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=download how to obtain it. Also a web cvs viewer has been set up on http://asterisk.espia-net.net (updated daily)`
`14:08.15`	`mbranca`	`eh eh`
`14:08.18`	`levon`	`;)`
`14:08.21`	`Pj_`	`mbranca: planning on installling cvs in your brain ?`
`14:08.22`	`WizardX`	`go 6 72.8 GB in a RAID 5 onfig`
`14:08.29`	`WizardX`	`now that will be some storage :P`
`14:08.36`	`mbranca`	`Pj_: why not? but before I need a bigger storage...`
`14:08.39`	`Pj_`	`WizardX: got 3 120go in RAID 5 config`
`14:08.40`	`Pj_`	`:P`
`14:09.04`	`Pj_`	`levon: bastard !! I'll catch you next month ;)`
`14:09.10`	`levon`	`PJ_ meep meep`
`14:09.16`	`Pj_`	`(and mine's full too)`
`14:09.24`	`levon`	`Pj_ hehe ;)`
`14:09.49`	`WizardX`	`any guesses how that works?`
`14:10.21`	`WizardX`	`http://sadie.twcup.net/`
`14:10.31`	`mbranca`	`WizardX: I lost your question....`
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`14:10.58`	`Pj_`	`you got kids ?`
`14:11.06`	`bevins`	`'SIP/25-d7b6' <==== whats the hex number ?`
`14:11.06`	`WizardX`	`look at the link and you will have the anwer`
`14:11.18`	`Pj_`	`too far`
`14:11.24`	`WizardX`	`yes (1)`
`14:12.21`	`Pj_`	`w00t`
`14:12.27`	`*** join/#asterisk tim27 (tim@229-29.dr.cgocable.ca)`
`14:12.38`	`mbranca`	`bevins: channel uniqeid`
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`14:12.53`	`WizardX`	`she is a little angel. esp right now (she is still asleep)`
`14:13.06`	`mbranca`	`since SIP/blah could have more than one istances`
`14:13.07`	`*** join/#asterisk root_ (~avatar@200.21.83.173)`
`14:13.09`	`Pj_`	`:) how old are you ?`
`14:13.14`	`WizardX`	`25`
`14:13.15`	`Marlow`	`mbranca : centrino notebook is nice, but ever since i fell in love with the ppc's :)`
`14:13.16`	`tim27`	`levon btxml seem to be good`
`14:13.21`	`tim27`	`27 here`
`14:13.28`	`tim27`	`:)`
`14:13.30`	`Pj_`	`21 ;)`
`14:13.41`	`bevins`	`ah so * just creates it on the fly? or is it allways that # for that channel?`
`14:13.45`	`Pj_`	`who's younger !!??`
`14:13.49`	`Pj_`	`come on ??`
`14:13.50`	`mbranca`	`Marlow: :) ... I wanted to give intel a try.... now seems I got also the wifi card working :)`
`14:13.53`	`Pj_`	`figh me!!!`
`14:13.54`	`WizardX`	`she was born on my bday too`
`14:13.55`	`Pj_`	`:)`
`14:13.59`	`levon`	`tim27, if it was supported, yes ;) I'm still waiting for cisco to complete the implementation`
`14:14.00`	`mbranca`	`bevins: on the fly`
`14:14.09`	`Marlow`	`mbranca : is no problem with the driverloader anymore ..`
`14:14.16`	`Marlow`	`mbranca : works like a charm ..`
`14:14.21`	`mbranca`	`Marlow: of course, I'm using it :)`
`14:14.30`	`tim27`	`levon : what setup you suggest me for my 3 lines... 8 phones`
`14:14.47`	`tim27`	`i think i will be better with 3 fxo card...`
`14:14.53`	`mbranca`	`Marlow: and has a reasonable price`
`14:14.54`	`tim27`	`as it will be cheaper...`
`14:14.59`	`levon`	`tim27, that highly depends on what types of lines you have and what types of phones you wanna use.`
`14:15.16`	`tim27`	`now i have 3 centrex lines`
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`14:15.24`	`levon`	`centrex = analogue lines?`
`14:15.26`	`Marlow`	`mbranca : did they price it now ?`
`14:15.27`	`tim27`	`for around 100 $ / month`
`14:15.29`	`mbranca`	`tim27: digium is about to release quad-fxo card...`
`14:15.39`	`mbranca`	`Marlow: 19 bucks. forever license`
`14:15.58`	`tim27`	`i think it will be the same card that support the fxs... but with fxo port , right ???`
`14:15.59`	`frollo`	`tim27: where did you configure the fxo cards? :)`
`14:16.05`	`Marlow`	`mbranca : that's ok .. i just had the 30 days trial .. and now got my notebook stolen last weekend ..`
`14:16.10`	`mbranca`	`tim27: yep`
`14:16.17`	`Marlow`	`mbranca : so i haven't been looking lately .`
`14:16.18`	`mbranca`	`Marlow: lol`
`14:16.34`	`tim27`	`frollo didnt configure anything i'm in the buying process`
`14:16.42`	`tim27`	`but i have a good web site for you frolo`
`14:16.45`	`tim27`	`for a newbie`
`14:16.48`	`tim27`	`let me check`
`14:16.50`	`mbranca`	`tim27: really, is the same backplane as the quad-fxs... but with fxo modules`
`14:17.00`	`*** join/#asterisk nassy (~nassy@24-193-228-121.nyc.rr.com)`
`14:17.16`	`tim27`	`http://www.automated.it/guidetoasterisk.htm`
`14:17.20`	`tim27`	`check this frolo`
`14:17.31`	`tim27`	`is a good article to setup up something simple`
`14:17.32`	`Marlow`	`mbranca : if i find that f*cker who stole it ... i will kill him ..`
`14:17.37`	`tim27`	`and it use fxo`
`14:18.03`	`tim27`	`mbranca... you will be able to mix fxo and fxs ... right ???`
`14:18.30`	`bevins`	`jeez!!!! This is stupid...`
`14:18.49`	`tim27`	`i show in the article how to install x100p and tdm400p`
`14:18.49`	`frollo`	`and italian domain :) thanks tim27 :)`
`14:18.52`	`bevins`	`I can't dial aout a zap interface with a sip phone....!!!`
`14:18.57`	`mbranca`	`tim27: I think yes`
`14:19.11`	`mbranca`	`frollo: italian?`
`14:19.16`	`tim27`	`.it`
`14:19.19`	`frollo`	`mbranca: yes :)`
`14:19.38`	`mbranca`	`frollo: mee to`
`14:19.44`	`tim27`	`i see you are from .it too lol`
`14:19.45`	`mbranca`	`-e +o`
`14:19.57`	`frollo`	`where are you from branca?`
`14:20.41`	`mbranca`	`near milano`
`14:20.55`	`frollo`	`cernusco ?`
`14:21.05`	`tim27`	`frollo , on the guide it show how to install redhat... but as i see here people dont seem to like redhat`
`14:21.08`	`*** part/#asterisk alejo_gluc (~alejoc@200.30.71.174)`
`14:21.09`	`mbranca`	`no... ma lo conosco. sedriano, vicino magenta`
`14:21.21`	`Pj_`	`tim27: just jump after the red hat part`
`14:21.31`	`tim27`	`lol`
`14:21.34`	`tim27`	`Pj_`
`14:21.40`	`Pj_`	`hey hey, tutti non sono italliani :P`
`14:21.40`	`tim27`	`what you distro of linux you use`
`14:21.46`	`Pj_`	`gentoo`
`14:22.02`	`tim27`	`and it work well with asterisk`
`14:22.18`	`frollo`	`ok let's go in query`
`14:22.19`	`tim27`	`to only distro i know is knoppix`
`14:22.28`	`Pj_`	`very... but apart from distros which doesn't install mpg321 in place of mpg123`
`14:22.28`	`kapejod`	`lol`
`14:22.29`	`mbranca`	`every linux works well... just you must know linux`
`14:22.32`	`Pj_`	`you could choose any I think`
`14:22.47`	`mbranca`	`or even flappix`
`14:23.05`	`Pj_`	`mbranca: I'm building a gentoo livecd with asterisk :)`
`14:23.11`	`tim27`	`mbranca there is always a start to anything...`
`14:23.14`	`tim27`	`:)`
`14:23.17`	`Marlow`	`Pj_ : non sono italiano neanche`
`14:23.43`	`Pj_`	`Marlow: che bello, simao due non italiani allora :P`
`14:24.01`	`mbranca`	`Pj_: lol`
`14:24.08`	`frollo`	`:D`
`14:24.17`	`Marlow`	`kapejod : aber Deutsch bin auch nicht`
`14:24.22`	`Marlow`	`Pj_ : LOL`
`14:24.34`	`kapejod`	`Marlowl: nobody is perfect ;)`
`14:24.35`	`frollo`	`someone who speaks Zulu or Xhosa?`
`14:24.42`	`tim27`	`i saw on the web that you can use some voicr prompt of bayonne , any of you use it for other language than en`
`14:24.45`	`Pj_`	`Marlow: anata wa nihon gi ka ?`
`14:24.56`	`tim27`	`bonjour tout le monde`
`14:25.01`	`tim27`	`:)`
`14:25.02`	`Pj_`	`tim27: frimeur`
`14:25.15`	`tim27`	`tu parles francais pj`
`14:25.20`	`Pj_`	`Aussi`
`14:25.26`	`tim27`	`:))))`
`14:25.28`	`tim27`	`tu viens de ou`
`14:25.41`	`Pj_`	`C'est la grande question :)`
`14:25.43`	`Marlow`	`Pj_ : ok ..`
`14:25.51`	`tim27`	`lol`
`14:25.52`	`Marlow`	`Pj_ : that i couldn't use for anything :o)`
`14:25.54`	`Pj_`	`Whether it's nobler in the mind to suffer slings or arrows`
`14:26.04`	`Pj_`	`or to take arms against a sea of trouble, and by opposing end them ?`
`14:26.05`	`tim27`	`mon anglais n'est pas tr�s bon`
`14:26.23`	`Pj_`	`tim27: 15:24 < kapejod> Marlowl: nobody is perfect ;)`
`14:26.29`	`Marlow`	`frollo : nope ... danish, swedish, norwegian, german, english, bit of italian and french ..`
`14:26.43`	`tim27`	`PJ: how many language you speak`
`14:27.05`	`Pj_`	`I can barble in 5, and speak fluently in 3`
`14:27.24`	`tim27`	`the fluently ones ???`
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`14:27.29`	`tim27`	`english`
`14:27.33`	`tim27`	`italian ???`
`14:27.44`	`tim27`	`and french ???`
`14:27.50`	`Marlow`	`+ german for pj :) or not ?`
`14:27.54`	`tim27`	`german seem to be hard to learn`
`14:28.12`	`Marlow`	`tim27: german is structured ... try danish ..`
`14:28.24`	`tim27`	`binary`
`14:28.25`	`Pj_`	`Ich bin ein Meerschweinchen !`
`14:28.30`	`tim27`	`universal language`
`14:28.30`	`kapejod`	`LOL`
`14:28.42`	`Marlow`	`ROFL`
`14:28.48`	`Pj_`	`Mit einem Ruschenkleid !!`
`14:28.53`	`mbranca`	`in the world there're 10 types of people...`
`14:28.54`	`kapejod`	`ROTFL`
`14:28.54`	`tim27`	`we will need a LINUX voice speaking language`
`14:29.05`	`Pj_`	`tim27: Sphinx2`
`14:29.05`	`tim27`	`type 1`
`14:29.09`	`tim27`	`type 2`
`14:29.14`	`mbranca`	`eh eh`
`14:29.15`	`tim27`	`mbranca`
`14:29.17`	`mbranca`	`hey`
`14:29.20`	`tim27`	`beguin with the first`
`14:29.27`	`kapejod`	`those who understand binary and those who dont ;)`
`14:29.38`	`tim27`	`that just 2 types`
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`14:29.42`	`kapejod`	`argh`
`14:29.42`	`mbranca`	`right`
`14:30.02`	`tim27`	`0101010101010`
`14:30.03`	`Marlow`	`those that are here and those who are not ...`
`14:30.08`	`Pj_`	`tss... I see some people don't know their classics here`
`14:30.23`	`Pj_`	`There are three types of people`
`14:30.23`	`mbranca`	`tim27: don't repeat yourself`
`14:30.31`	`Pj_`	`Thos who can count, and those who don't`
`14:30.40`	`Marlow`	`ehehehe`
`14:30.51`	`Marlow`	`Pj_ : clear statement ..`
`14:30.54`	`tim27`	`i think any people who studdy can learn anything... some learn easier and faster...`
`14:30.56`	`tim27`	`just that`
`14:31.10`	`mbranca`	`lol`
`14:31.13`	`Marlow`	`pj_ should not start with binary ... would be difficult to read ..`
`14:31.34`	`Marlow`	`thought about learning finish ...`
`14:31.48`	`Marlow`	`+n`
`14:32.19`	`Pj_`	`jr pbhyq nyjnlf fcrnx ebg13...`
`14:35.22`	`xpasha_work`	`hi ppl`
`14:35.57`	`xpasha_work`	`how to make RTP trafic being going not directry from device to device but trough asterisk?`
`14:36.16`	`mbranca`	`xpasha_work: sip?`
`14:36.20`	`xpasha_work`	`yes`
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`14:37.08`	`levon`	`mbranca, is that coffee?`
`14:37.10`	`mbranca`	`xpasha_work: in user definition, reinvite=no & canreinvite=no`
`14:37.14`	`mbranca`	`levon: yep :)`
`14:37.15`	`levon`	`(the formula)`
`14:37.17`	`levon`	`he`
`14:37.31`	`levon`	`~coffee is 3,7-Dihydro-1,3,7-trimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione`
`14:37.32`		`...but coffee is already something else...`
`14:37.38`	`levon`	`~coffee`
`14:37.42`		`coffee is probably for staying awake, or a proof for the inability of human language to describe God (Wittgenstein)`
`14:37.50`	`levon`	`~forget coffee`
`14:37.50`		`i forgot coffee, levon`
`14:38.07`	`levon`	`~coffee is s probably for staying awake, or a proof for the inability of human language to describe God (Wittgenstein). Formula: 3,7-Dihydro-1,3,7-trimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione`
`14:38.08`		`okay, levon`
`14:38.20`	`mbranca`	`rotfl`
`14:38.31`	`levon`	`;)`
`14:38.34`	`Pj_`	`"who need sleep... WE GOT CAFFEINE !!"`
`14:38.52`	`mbranca`	`"who need sleep... WE GOT 3,7-Dihydro-1,3,7-trimethyl-1H-purine-2,6-dione !!"`
`14:39.05`	`mbranca`	`is more geeky`
`14:40.00`	`Pj_`	`mbranca: my "overclocked" shirt is more geeky :P`
`14:40.57`	`mbranca`	`lol`
`14:41.11`	`Pj_`	`"who need sleep... we got 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine; 1,3,7-trimethyl-2,6-dioxopurine"`
`14:41.28`	`Pj_`	`(alternate names ;)`
`14:41.32`	`tim27`	`levon do you have a idea of when cisco phone will support BTXML , and if asterisk will support hem`
`14:41.33`	`tim27`	`them`
`14:41.39`	`Pj_`	`http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/caffeine/caffeine.shtml`
`14:42.18`	`bevins`	`mbranca: can you help me a sec on a stupid problem.......?`
`14:42.30`	`mbranca`	`bevins: I'll try`
`14:42.45`	`xpasha_work`	`mbranca tnx`
`14:42.50`	`bevins`	`everything works on my setup except I can't dial out a Zap/1 from a SIP phone.`
`14:42.53`	`Marlow`	`hmm .. finally sorted my softphone problem out ...`
`14:43.08`	`mbranca`	`tin27: btxml is feeded via a webserver to the crisco... isn't an astersik features...`
`14:43.15`	`bevins`	`I thought it was my dialplan but I have looked and overlooked it .`
`14:43.55`	`Marlow`	`"weasels have eaten our sun system" ... :o) ... that thing asumes me everytime ..`
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`14:44.37`	`bevins`	`mbranca: everything works on my setup except I can't dial out a Zap/1 from a SIP phon`
`14:45.14`	`bevins`	`mbranca: I thought it was the dialplan, but I can't find the problem there.`
`14:45.37`	`mbranca`	`bevins: what's the dial statement where you call zap from the sip?`
`14:46.57`	`bevins`	`I'm dialing out, I don't have an exact Dial statement for that.`
`14:47.08`	`mbranca`	`?`
`14:47.38`	`mbranca`	`you should have something like exten => somenum,1,Dial(Zap/something)`
`14:47.45`	`bevins`	`exten => _9NXXXXXX,1,Dial(Zap/1/${EXTEN:1})`
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`14:48.07`	`mbranca`	`seems ok`
`14:48.15`	`bevins`	`that works with phones coneected via zap/2-4 but not SIP`
`14:48.17`	`RoyK_T`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:48.36`	`mbranca`	`what's context where this dial statement is`
`14:49.00`	`bevins`	`local-trunks`
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`14:50.38`	`mbranca`	`bevins: ok. and what's the context of your sip phoen`
`14:50.39`	`mbranca`	`?`
`14:50.53`	`bevins`	`local-trunks <====extensions`
`14:51.16`	`mbranca`	`mmmh... what happens when you dial the number from the sip phone?`
`14:51.37`	`bevins`	`I get 404 not found error on SIP`
`14:52.02`	`xpasha_work`	`hmm it does not work`
`14:52.04`	`mbranca`	`mmmh...`
`14:52.15`	`mbranca`	`bevins: sip.conf ?`
`14:52.18`	`xpasha_work`	`direct connect not present`
`14:52.48`	`mbranca`	`xpasha_work: reloaded astetisk?`
`14:52.54`	`xpasha_work`	`yes`
`14:53.08`	`bevins`	`my sip.conf looks normal`
`14:54.02`	`levon`	`bevins, check that the context your sip phone dials is either the same as local-trunks or has a dial command.`
`14:55.23`	`mbranca`	`good pesce`
`14:55.25`	`mbranca`	`:)`
`14:55.30`	`levon`	`yummy pesce`
`14:55.30`	`levon`	`;)`
`14:55.47`	`bevins`	`It is a context thing.... I changed my context in sip.conf to local-trunks and it worked...`
`14:55.55`	`levon`	`see?`
`14:55.57`	`levon`	`;)`
`14:56.07`	`bevins`	`But I don't want it there...I want it in extensions`
`14:56.28`	`levon`	`if your sip call enters on another context, you need a dial command in that context that knows what to do with that call.`
`14:56.37`	`bevins`	`I've included extensions in local-trunks.....I don't understand why it won't work`
`14:56.47`	`mbranca`	`bevins: but as of zap channels, you must tell asterisk where each user falls in extension.conf`
`14:56.50`	`levon`	`it's the other way around, bevins`
`14:57.07`	`bevins`	`hehe....`
`14:57.08`	`levon`	`if you include A in B, that B will have B's extensions + A.`
`14:57.15`	`bevins`	`I see...`
`14:57.48`	`bevins`	`thanks guys.....`
`14:59.00`	`bevins`	`Is anyone using * at home?`
`15:00.21`	`WizardX`	`bbl`
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`15:00.46`	`izo`	`i'm using * at home`
`15:00.47`	`Marlow`	`bevins : yep ...`
`15:00.57`	`firedude`	`can anybody offer some iax help?`
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`15:04.00`	`RoyK_T`	`god dag :)`
`15:04.37`	`Marlow`	`RoyK_T : det er s� m�rkt, at det n�sten er nat igen ..`
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`15:10.22`	`firedude`	`any iax gurus?`
`15:10.54`	`levon`	`mhmmammhmam`
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`15:11.17`	`levon`	`firedude, just ask your question, don't ask to ask or you'll wait 4 ever...`
`15:11.29`	`glLoadIdentity`	`levon: hi kardes`
`15:11.31`	`firedude`	`thanks`
`15:12.03`	`levon`	`~ask2ask is people who ask if they may ask a question which is a question itself. So why don't ask your real question in the first place? ;-)`
`15:12.04`		`levon: okay`
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`15:12.26`	`pookey`	`hey all! I noticed that 2.4.x is needed, is that atleast 2.4? or will things not work on 2.6?`
`15:12.30`	`levon`	`merhaba glLoadIdentity, naber canim`
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`15:13.08`	`RoyK_T`	`Marlow: sant... men det blir verre.... I tromsø er det sol fra 9:23-13:31 i dag`
`15:13.13`	`RoyK_T`	`...det vil si - sola har gått ned`
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`15:13.25`	`RoyK_T`	`cypromis: hi`
`15:13.29`	`cypromis`	`hi`
`15:13.32`	`levon`	`cype!`
`15:13.33`	`RoyK_T`	`cypromis: how many PRIs do you handle per server?`
`15:13.34`	`firedude`	`here's my question, if I get calls in from the outside to my iax client I can transfer them fine and if I make calls to the outside from a iax client I can transfer them fine but when communicating from 1 iax client to the other, I can't seem to park calls, transfer them or anything else, does anybody know why this could be?`
`15:13.38`	`cypromis`	`u like no mobile better ?`
`15:13.45`	`cypromis`	`RoyK_T: 4`
`15:13.49`	`RoyK_T`	`k`
`15:14.00`	`cypromis`	`tyan mini rackmounts with dual xeon`
`15:14.01`	`glLoadIdentity`	`levon: iyidir , uzun suredir gorusmuyorduk (it has been an unsigned long long time :) )`
`15:14.03`	`cypromis`	`4 pri per server`
`15:14.09`	`RoyK_T`	`one te410p per box?`
`15:14.10`	`levon`	`glLoadIdentity, hehe ;)`
`15:14.17`	`cypromis`	`yes`
`15:14.21`	`levon`	`glLoadIdentity, uzun olmusdu, evet canim`
`15:14.42`	`Marlow`	`RoyK_T : ehehe .. ja ... Troms� er v�rre end her .. men her i Stockholm er solen ogs� g�et ned nu .. det er m�rkt`
`15:15.07`	`RoyK_T`	`Marlow: dere har vel omtrent like mye sol der som i oslo, tenker jeg ...`
`15:15.34`	`Marlow`	`RoyK_T : nah .. jeg tror faktisk lidt mere ... men det er ikke helt ved siden af ..`
`15:18.52`	`RoyK_T`	`Marlow: oslo's 59 deg N 57'. stockholm's 59 deg N 17', so the difference is _marginal`
`15:19.03`	`frollo`	`CIAO!!!!`
`15:19.06`	`mbranca`	`bye`
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`15:21.25`	`Marlow`	`RoyK_T : agreed ..`
`15:27.50`	`cypromis`	`eirkapolis`
`15:27.58`	`cypromis`	`erika in town`
`15:28.08`	`izo`	`polish`
`15:28.14`	`izo`	`minneapolish`
`15:28.26`	`doughecka`	`eating pig`
`15:28.26`	`cypromis`	`wax polish`
`15:28.27`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`15:28.47`	`cypromis`	`polis = town in greek`
`15:29.01`	`doughecka`	`acropolis`
`15:29.03`	`RoyK_T`	`polis = police in se_SE`
`15:29.20`	`RoyK_T`	`polispolis`
`15:29.24`	`doughecka`	`haha`
`15:30.04`	`glLoadIdentity`	`RoyK_T: polis = police in tr_TR`
`15:31.25`	`levon`	`heh ;)`
`15:31.35`	`RoyK_T`	`what's tr_TR?`
`15:31.53`	`levon`	`RoyK_t turkey/turkish`
`15:32.14`	`RoyK_T`	`k`
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`15:54.04`	`ScaredyCat`	`fuckers = police in nl`
`15:54.17`	`ScaredyCat`	`tossers = police in uk`
`15:54.35`	`ScaredyCat`	`sir = piloce in sa`
`15:54.40`	`cypromis`	`rotfl`
`15:54.50`	`cypromis`	`dogs = police in pl`
`15:55.07`	`many`	`polizei!`
`15:55.14`	`many`	`(.de)`
`15:55.38`	`many`	`(bullen is the vulgar word, they dont like it, though)`
`15:55.44`	`ScaredyCat`	`power crazed mofo's = police in US`
`15:55.49`	`cypromis`	`yeah they don't like any of those words`
`15:55.53`	`many`	`cat: haha-.`
`15:55.56`	`cypromis`	`:))`
`15:56.10`	`cypromis`	`in communist time police was called milicja in poland`
`15:56.21`	`ScaredyCat`	`millitia`
`15:56.21`	`ScaredyCat`	`?`
`15:56.24`	`cypromis`	`so people said the intelligence measure is in cjants`
`15:56.29`	`cypromis`	`1 milicjant`
`15:56.30`	`cypromis`	`:)`
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`16:23.17`	`doughecka`	`eep`
`16:23.18`	`doughecka`	`cool`
`16:23.19`	`doughecka`	`where?`
`16:24.56`	`RoyK_T`	`digifilm.tk`
`16:25.01`	`RoyK_T`	`just a poll somehow`
`16:25.20`	`RoyK_T`	`er - and it's in norwegian`
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`16:26.09`	`izo`	`cypromis did you check cepstal for polish TTS ?`
`16:26.16`	`heller`	`hey. . .I've got a pulse phone, can someone code support for pulse in asterisk?`
`16:26.37`	`xpasha_work`	`seems to be it`
`16:26.42`	`xpasha_work`	`is not supported`
`16:26.57`	`xpasha_work`	`but making support is not easy`
`16:28.11`	`RoyK_T`	`I have this phone from the 50'ies - just want to set it up side by side with a snom 100 or so`
`16:28.40`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`16:29.45`	`RoyK_T`	`to show off some customers :)`
`16:30.04`	`RoyK_T`	`so - pulse dialling isn't supported at all?`
`16:30.34`	`heller`	`I was just kidding about pulse dialling. . .`
`16:30.45`	`RoyK_T`	`"I'm a lumberjack, and I'm ok...."`
`16:30.51`	`RoyK_T`	`I'm not :D`
`16:31.14`	`doughecka`	`And the weather today is....`
`16:31.55`	`cypromis`	`izo: will ask them next week`
`16:32.09`	`cypromis`	`need polish, ukrainian, russian, slovakian, vietnamese and rabic :)`
`16:32.09`	`RoyK_T`	`weather is rainy, +1 degree C, and it's been dark for two hours`
`16:32.13`	`cypromis`	`arabic that is`
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`16:33.00`	`izo`	`cypromis : -)`
`16:33.09`	`RoyK_T`	`cypromis: need this for what?`
`16:33.21`	`cypromis`	`prepayed calling systems`
`16:33.22`	`izo`	`cypromis : check out elan and realspeak`
`16:33.25`	`cypromis`	`nah`
`16:33.29`	`izo`	`why ?`
`16:33.33`	`cypromis`	`at the price of elan and realspeak`
`16:33.41`	`cypromis`	`I can pay people to do me the prompts in realtime`
`16:33.42`	`cypromis`	`:)))`
`16:33.44`	`izo`	`:-)`
`16:33.47`	`izo`	`true`
`16:34.05`	`izo`	`i think its even better`
`16:34.17`	`izo`	`why dont you just record those ?`
`16:34.41`	`cypromis`	`thinking of adding a shitload of addon services on 0-300 numbers`
`16:34.47`	`cypromis`	`also on 0870 in UK`
`16:34.50`	`cypromis`	`so ..`
`16:34.55`	`cypromis`	`tts makes sense`
`16:34.59`	`izo`	`ok`
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`16:50.39`	`[Sim]`	`hey kaper`
`16:50.51`	`[Sim]`	`nothing happening on your site, so far :-P`
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`17:06.10`	`Celtic`	`cypromis: What number in what countries do uou have ?`
`17:06.20`	`cypromis`	`0870 in UK`
`17:06.27`	`cypromis`	`and currently 0300 and 0900 in poland`
`17:06.39`	`cypromis`	`working on germany, dk, in, and some more countries`
`17:06.56`	`cypromis`	`brb`
`17:07.07`	`Celtic`	`Have 0870 UK already - where in DE would be most likely ?`
`17:07.17`	`cypromis`	`Berlin`
`17:07.23`	`cypromis`	`or Frankfurt`
`17:07.28`	`cypromis`	`problm is the charging model`
`17:07.33`	`cypromis`	`in UK it is easy`
`17:07.36`	`Celtic`	`OK - Out of interest what is 0300 or 0900 in PL ?`
`17:07.37`	`izo`	`what are 0300 and 0900 ?`
`17:07.43`	`cypromis`	`germany I would have to charge per bw`
`17:07.43`	`Celtic`	`Snap!`
`17:08.02`	`cypromis`	`0900 is like 1900`
`17:08.08`	`cypromis`	`0300 is cheaper version`
`17:08.19`	`Celtic`	`US 1900 is all but dead.`
`17:08.32`	`cypromis`	`luckily I am not in the US :)`
`17:08.35`	`Celtic`	`is 0300 like a national rate call or more expensive ?`
`17:09.00`	`cypromis`	`I think it is 1 zl per minute`
`17:09.07`	`cypromis`	`which is like 23 EUR cents`
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`17:09.24`	`cypromis`	`january we should have normal national rate as well`
`17:09.28`	`Celtic`	`What is typical cost of PL>US ?`
`17:09.35`	`Celtic`	`on PSTN?`
`17:09.42`	`cypromis`	`with standard telco ?`
`17:09.44`	`cypromis`	`lemme check`
`17:09.50`	`cypromis`	`I sell for less than 0300`
`17:09.51`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`17:09.59`	`cypromis`	`on calling cards`
`17:10.00`	`rakesh`	`hello all`
`17:10.28`	`Celtic`	`OK - so US ex pats from PL would see no advantage in having an 0300 to be called on`
`17:10.31`	`RoyK_T`	`HELLO ALL`
`17:10.49`	`cypromis`	`the telco charges 2.44`
`17:10.53`	`cypromis`	`we charge .75`
`17:11.16`	`Celtic`	`ok so an 0300 terminated over VoIP is still cheaper`
`17:11.17`	`cypromis`	`we are preparing to sell pc2phone and barbies to US expats from US`
`17:11.19`	`cypromis`	`yes`
`17:11.25`	`cypromis`	`US expats from PL that is`
`17:11.35`	`cypromis`	`want to do the same for DE expats`
`17:11.37`	`Celtic`	`And you don't charge for bw on 0300 because you get enough margin on the inbound ?`
`17:11.42`	`cypromis`	`correct`
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`17:12.06`	`cypromis`	`same model like 0870 in UK`
`17:12.13`	`Celtic`	`yup`
`17:12.17`	`cypromis`	`ifthere would be relly big traffic I would also do 0845`
`17:12.25`	`Celtic`	`Except 0870 is marginal at the weekend`
`17:12.25`	`cypromis`	`but people are not calling reall that much`
`17:12.56`	`cypromis`	`I still get a good cut on 0870 on the weekend`
`17:12.58`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`17:13.01`	`Celtic`	`Do you have your own UK stuff or do you partner withg Linus ?`
`17:13.09`	`cypromis`	`who is Linus ?`
`17:13.10`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`17:13.13`	`Celtic`	`Magreathea`
`17:13.17`	`cypromis`	`nah`
`17:13.21`	`cypromis`	`got my own stuff`
`17:13.24`	`cypromis`	`own lines`
`17:13.26`	`cypromis`	`own * boxes`
`17:13.31`	`Celtic`	`Telehouse ?`
`17:13.34`	`Connor`	`anyone * up so you can park someone using the transfer button on a SIP phone ?`
`17:13.35`	`cypromis`	`nope`
`17:13.37`	`cypromis`	`city lifeline`
`17:14.06`	`Celtic`	`Well I thought the margin on 0870 at w/e barely covered bw`
`17:14.16`	`Celtic`	`It only costs 1p.min to call them on w/e`
`17:15.18`	`cypromis`	`depends on the deal you get from the PTT`
`17:15.19`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`17:15.20`	`cypromis`	`and`
`17:15.24`	`cypromis`	`depends on your bw costs`
`17:16.13`	`Celtic`	`True - but the amount the caller pays tends to put a limit on the payout unless the PTT is dumb`
`17:16.21`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`17:16.24`	`Celtic`	`Oh wait a minute - they often are :-)`
`17:16.26`	`cypromis`	`that is a problem of the PTT`
`17:17.15`	`cypromis`	`ok need to pick up some gear`
`17:17.18`	`cypromis`	`bia`
`17:17.19`	`cypromis`	`b`
`17:17.20`	`Celtic`	`Kall8 have aquired some numbers in Frankfurt - want $28/month rental which seems steep`
`17:18.38`	`benjk`	`$28 ???`
`17:18.56`	`benjk`	`I can get you a phone number in Tokyo for less than that ;-)`
`17:20.22`	`benjk`	`kpj: which pub?`
`17:20.39`	`levon`	`benjk: some pub which has GUINNESS ;)`
`17:21.14`	`benjk`	`Yeah, but the last time I had Guinness in Germany, it tasted like piss`
`17:21.49`	`mortck`	`benjk: you should rethink your drinking habbits`
`17:21.51`	`benjk`	`and the Kilkennys was no better there`
`17:22.19`	`benjk`	`my drinking habits are just fine, at least for as long as I stay away from germany :-)`
`17:24.04`	`mortck`	`benjk: how do people get drunk in jp?`
`17:24.25`	`benjk`	`well, pretty much like anywhere else`
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`17:27.51`	`heller`	`yea, i would suspect by drinking alcohol.`
`17:28.02`	`benjk`	`precisely`
`17:28.05`	`benjk`	`:-)`
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`17:34.11`	`Celtic`	`US Guiness is now largely brewed in Canada`
`17:34.38`	`benjk`	`and how does it taste?`
`17:34.46`	`zigman`	`benjk but in jp they take pics from throwing up ;)`
`17:35.00`	`Celtic`	`I can taste the difference but I doubt most notice`
`17:35.32`	`Celtic`	`I don't actually think Guinness is always the best Irish Stout`
`17:35.44`	`benjk`	`Celtic: that's alright then. The Guinness I had in Germany was really terrible`
`17:35.48`	`zigman`	`i can't either.. i just taste whether there is alcohol in it or not`
`17:36.03`	`many`	`benjk: drink real beer then.`
`17:36.35`	`Celtic`	`If you like Guinness you should try Young's Bouble Chocolate - a London brewed brown stout`
`17:36.42`	`Celtic`	`Double Chocolate`
`17:36.45`	`benjk`	`Celtic: in Ireland Murphys is probably better, but Guinness seems to travel better`
`17:36.59`	`Celtic`	`Yeah - I like Murphy's`
`17:37.19`	`benjk`	`Yeah, but Murphys isn't as good as Guinness when *overseas*`
`17:37.38`	`Celtic`	`Rarely seen it in anything other than cans`
`17:37.54`	`benjk`	`my favourite is Caffreys anyway ;-)`
`17:38.05`	`Celtic`	`Guinness is a real marketing machine`
`17:38.25`	`benjk`	`yes, always has been`
`17:38.32`	`Celtic`	`They let people serve Guinness under CO2 pressure in US rather than Nitrogen mix - not as good`
`17:39.22`	`benjk`	`That's what I think the Germans did but they pretty much saturated it with CO2, so it tasted really horrible`
`17:39.37`	`Celtic`	`Yup - stout doesn't like that so much`
`17:40.04`	`benjk`	`I guess the Germans like it with lots of CO2`
`17:40.07`	`Celtic`	`Somebody told me that "Irish Pub" is actually a brand in Germany - how the hell the managed that I don't know....`
`17:40.28`	`benjk`	`jeez`
`17:40.44`	`benjk`	`that would violate trademark law though`
`17:40.54`	`Celtic`	`Feel like moving there and starting an "Irish Pub" to see if it causes trouble`
`17:41.08`	`benjk`	`unless it is a brand for something unrelated, like for example a cinema`
`17:41.43`	`Celtic`	`Don't know - guy who said this seemed to be genuine`
`17:42.02`	`benjk`	`you could register a trademark "Irish Pub" for a cinema, or a barber shop or a gasoline station`
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`17:42.11`	`Celtic`	`I could take some of my Irish friends and see if they wanted an argument ;-)`
`17:42.13`	`benjk`	`but not for a pub`
`17:42.33`	`benjk`	`because trademarks must not be obvious names`
`17:42.53`	`Celtic`	`Yup - seemed strange to me. Probably has some basis in fact but maybe more detail required`
`17:43.11`	`Celtic`	`like they reg'd "The Irish Pub" or something`
`17:43.12`	`benjk`	`you could register a trademark "German Bretzel" for a beer`
`17:43.22`	`benjk`	`but you couldn;t do so for a bretzel`
`17:43.58`	`benjk`	`that would then be a very weak trademark, almost not enforcible`
`17:44.34`	`benjk`	`because an argument before a court would then center solely around whther the "The" was used in its generic meaning or not`
`17:45.12`	`Celtic`	`Probably would be an intersting case if the preposition is from another language`
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`17:45.32`	`benjk`	`"Der Irish Pub" :-)`
`17:45.43`	`Celtic`	`How sad - no it wouldn't be interesting - what am I saying ......`
`17:45.50`	`benjk`	`or maybe "Das Irish Pub"`
`17:48.01`	`benjk`	`Anyway, any real Irish Pub would be called "The Harp", "Irish Times" or after some Irish county or "O'Neil's" or some other Irish name ;-)`
`17:48.55`	`Celtic`	`Of course the Germans have a long single work noun I'm sure`
`17:48.59`	`Celtic`	`DasHausindemdieCRAZYPEOPLEBiertrinken`
`17:49.09`	`Celtic`	`:-)`
`17:49.27`	`benjk`	`:-)`
`17:50.27`	`Celtic`	`German must be the only language where you can actully fall asleep while parsing a noun`
`17:50.31`	`benjk`	`OeffentlishesBiertrinkAnstalt perhaps`
`17:50.32`	`doughecka`	`lol`
`17:50.56`	`benjk`	`haha`
`17:52.45`	`rajo`	`benjk: rather "Wirtshaus zum lustigen Benjamin" ;)`
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`17:54.43`	`benjk`	`I got it ...`
`17:54.44`	`benjk`	`IrishesOffentlishesBiertrinkAnstalt Gesellshaft mit bechrankter Haftung`
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`17:55.12`	`Celtic`	`I'm getting thirsty`
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`18:09.54`	`imcdona`	`hello all!`
`18:10.12`	`Unk`	`hello`
`18:10.20`	`imcdona`	`justg got my FXO card from Digium and loving it`
`18:10.31`	`imcdona`	`I have a question`
`18:10.57`	`imcdona`	`Is anyone able to receive INCOMING calls from IAXTE?`
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`18:15.28`	`joe_satrinani`	`hi all`
`18:15.36`	`joe_satrinani`	`kapejod: u r there ?`
`18:15.49`	`joe_satrinani`	`kapejod: r u there ?`
`18:16.31`	`benjk`	`kapejod went to the pub`
`18:16.34`	`levon`	`joe_satrinani, you can reach kapejod at the nearest pub ;)`
`18:17.15`	`benjk`	`[02:20] * kapejod is away: meet me at the pub`
`18:17.22`	`joe_satrinani`	`he drink a lot ^ ;)`
`18:17.33`	`cypromis`	`not really`
`18:17.34`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`18:17.35`	`benjk`	`that was 57 minutes ago`
`18:17.55`	`joe_satrinani`	`is anybody experienced in writing dialplan ?`
`18:18.26`	`benjk`	`cut through the chase - just ask your question`
`18:18.45`	`joe_satrinani`	`I have to write the following rules:`
`18:19.07`	`joe_satrinani`	`1 administrative group with 2 users`
`18:19.15`	`joe_satrinani`	`1 marketing group with n user`
`18:19.21`	`joe_satrinani`	`Play the intro, play the menu`
`18:19.27`	`joe_satrinani`	`this is easy to do`
`18:19.56`	`joe_satrinani`	`if the user press 1 group 1 (free user) will ring`
`18:20.11`	`joe_satrinani`	`if the user press 2 group 2 (available user) will ring`
`18:20.36`	`joe_satrinani`	`I define my user in sip.conf`
`18:20.41`	`joe_satrinani`	`in extensions.conf`
`18:21.06`	`joe_satrinani`	`what I have to write to do this ?`
`18:21.09`	`levon`	`wee`
`18:21.39`	`levon`	`joe_satrinani, you better start working on some demo extension.confs, split all your "to-dos" into "autonomous tasks" and then do one thing at a time`
`18:22.07`	`joe_satrinani`	`[general]`
`18:22.15`	`joe_satrinani`	`static=yes`
`18:22.24`	`joe_satrinani`	`writeprotect=no`
`18:22.32`	`joe_satrinani`	`[globals]`
`18:22.32`	`joe_satrinani`	`CONSOLE=Console/dsp`
`18:22.39`	`levon`	`joe_satrinani!`
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`18:22.50`	`levon`	`if you have a question, ask it.`
`18:22.54`	`joe_satrinani`	`ok`
`18:22.57`	`benjk`	`you are not going to post the entire extensions.conf here, or are you?`
`18:22.57`	`levon`	`if you don't know where to start, read the readmes ;)`
`18:23.07`	`levon`	`but don't say: " can anyone do my entire thing for me?" ;)`
`18:23.22`	`joe_satrinani`	`ok, sorry for me emotivity`
`18:23.28`	`levon`	`sorry for mine`
`18:23.49`	`benjk`	`joe_satrinani: did you take a look at jtodd's extensions.conf?`
`18:23.59`	`benjk`	`!info jtodd`
`18:24.27`	`joe_satrinani`	`!info jtodd`
`18:24.29`	`benjk`	`What happened to the Info bot`
`18:24.36`	`doughecka`	`died`
`18:24.39`	`doughecka`	`boom`
`18:24.41`	`doughecka`	`~jtodd`
`18:24.54`	`joe_satrinani`	`!info ~jtodd`
`18:25.05`	`benjk`	`well, I think it is http://www.loligo.com`
`18:25.11`	`iiano`	`is the handbook project the best source of documentation for asterisk?`
`18:25.23`	`denon2353`	`iiano: yes`
`18:25.28`	`benjk`	`or maybe http://www.loligo.com/asterisk`
`18:25.54`	`iiano`	`denon2353: thanks. easy question. :)`
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`18:36.16`	`jtodd`	`Huh? Someone called?`
`18:36.39`	`jtodd`	`Yes. http://www.loligo.com/asterisk/ leads to some garbled examples that I've not updated in some months. :) But everyone really seems to love the call recording features.`
`18:37.40`	`iiano`	`anyone had the situation where a SIP client crashes, and a POTS line out stays open? Is there some timeout I can use?`
`18:39.44`	`levon`	`iiano, if the sip client crashes there is no connection tear down and the sip channel driver doesn't know that its down, so any connected channel (your POTS in this case) will stay open too`
`18:40.06`	`levon`	`chan_sip should timeout and shut the channel down after a while though`
`18:40.40`	`jtodd`	`levon: It should? How so?`
`18:40.55`	`levon`	`jtodd, because it's channel driver's responsibility ;)`
`18:41.07`	`levon`	`(generally spoken)`
`18:41.26`	`jtodd`	`levon: Can you be more specific? I don't thikn that there is any way that chan_sip hangs up calls unless specifically told to by the client. This was referenced in an email I made to the list within the last day or so...`
`18:41.57`	`jtodd`	`levon: There are some patches I suggested that might take care of that issue, but that is (to my knowledge) not the case right now. Calls may become infinite if SIP messages are not properly transmitted.`
`18:42.07`	`levon`	`jtodd: well, from a design point of view, a channel driver is responsible for everything that goes on with that channel`
`18:42.16`	`jtodd`	`levon: Of course, if the POTS line hangs up, then the call should terminate.`
`18:42.30`	`jtodd`	`levon: The theory is nice, but the practice is different.`
`18:42.34`	`levon`	`the "problem" with SIP is, is that it's UDP based.`
`18:42.47`	`levon`	`if it would be TCP based, you'd notice a connection failure at once`
`18:42.48`	`jtodd`	`levon: see my message from yesterday(?) about it.`
`18:42.53`	`levon`	`no`
`18:42.58`	`levon`	`so`
`18:43.08`	`iiano`	`This was may experience. The line stayed open for hours. We noticed it eventually.`
`18:43.32`	`levon`	`I bet the sip protocol specification handles the loss of the network layer`
`18:43.36`	`levon`	`so it just have to be implemented properly`
`18:43.37`	`jtodd`	`iiano: Use an AbsoluteTimeout on every call with some very high value (3 hours? 6 hours?) so that the calls will at least eventually hang up automatically.`
`18:43.39`	`levon`	`like:`
`18:43.40`	`iiano`	`There is no periodic UDP ping in the connection?`
`18:43.48`	`jtodd`	`iiano: No, SIP calls are stateless.`
`18:44.34`	`Shido9`	`talk talk talk`
`18:44.38`	`Shido9`	`unplug the ip phone`
`18:44.42`	`Shido9`	`light goes out`
`18:44.44`	`jtodd`	`levon: the only way I can see to do it would be to force the RTP stream through * and check for bits going in each direction and hang up if something stops transmitting for some long period of time.`
`18:44.44`	`Shido9`	`plug it back in`
`18:44.46`	`Shido9`	`call returns`
`18:44.51`	`Shido9`	`luv it`
`18:45.19`	`jtodd`	`levon: If you're doing native bridges between two SIP devices, you're out of luck.`
`18:45.47`	`jtodd`	`levon: However, in iiano's case, an RTP examination probe would do the "right thing", since there is transcoding between the SIP channel and the Zap channel, so it would be possible for * to see that there is no RTP coming back from the SIP phone.`
`18:45.59`	`iiano`	`jtodd: yow.`
`18:45.59`	`levon`	`easy: "I didn't get a udp packet for n seconds, so I assume this channel died..."`
`18:46.14`	`doughecka`	`unless its on hold`
`18:47.04`	`jtodd`	`doughecka: Yes, that is something that has to be built into the if-then routine.`
`18:47.27`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`18:47.34`	`jtodd`	`levon: If you want to write the patch, feel free to submit it to the bugtracker. This has come up a few times in the last few days, and there is already a ticket open on the problem to which the patch could be attached.`
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`18:48.26`	`doughecka`	`heeeey JerJer`
`18:48.29`	`jtodd`	`Another possible method might be to send one of the usual "OPTIONS" requests (like qualify=x does) and if that doesn't come back, then assume the phone is not reachable, and close any SIP connections to that phone.`
`18:48.31`	`JerJer`	`moo`
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`18:49.15`	`jtodd`	`Actually, that might be a better way to do it in general, since we already use qualify= to make a SIP device available or unavailable in the list of possible channels.`
`18:50.38`	`jtodd`	`Booom.`
`18:50.50`	`doughecka`	`eeks`
`18:51.46`	`wasim`	`whee ... we got voice working the other way ... no doughecka, its still simplex`
`18:51.50`	`bevins`	`I hate trying to find a mirror for downloading slackware.... It sucks...`
`18:52.04`	`doughecka`	`wasim: blegch`
`18:52.45`	`izo`	`anyone with cisco here ?`
`18:53.06`	`bevins`	`I am going to e-mail Patrick and tell him to get his shit straight!!!! :-)`
`18:55.29`	`wasim`	`jtodd: can we get IAX to pass unix-time down the channel, thus removing the need for NTP?`
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`18:56.33`	`levon`	`aahh ;)`
`18:56.33`	`levon`	`finally ;)`
`18:56.37`	`wasim`	`merhaba levon`
`18:56.46`	`levon`	`merhaba wasim ;)`
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`18:57.31`	`l-fy`	`ehlo`
`18:57.46`	`l-fy`	`i need some help with a dialogic e1 - isdn board`
`18:59.58`	`izo`	`hi l-fy :-)`
`19:00.01`	`wasim`	`l-fy: put the board on the ground, sprinkle petrol all over it, be careful to not get any on your shoes, then step away, flick a match at it, and watch it burn, baby, burn`
`19:00.03`	`izo`	`how come you use dialogic`
`19:00.29`	`JerJer`	`l-fy: flebay it and use the proceeds to purchase a TE410P`
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`19:01.01`	`izo`	`E100P is also ok`
`19:01.04`	`l-fy`	`geeeee guys`
`19:01.11`	`izo`	`l-fy ;-)`
`19:01.14`	`l-fy`	`i'm using this board just to test a digium`
`19:01.29`	`izo`	`yeah sure everyone says that`
`19:01.32`	`wasim`	`burn it!`
`19:01.41`	`l-fy`	`anyon here belive that i'm stupid to use a dialogic in production?`
`19:03.08`	`cypromis`	`probably nearly everybod`
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`19:10.11`	`l-fy`	`cool`
`19:10.29`	`miller7`	`has anyone any idea how to mix 2 channels with another one without using meetme?`
`19:10.43`	`izo`	`miller7: ?`
`19:10.49`	`izo`	`what do you want to do exactly ?`
`19:10.53`	`izo`	`cant you just dial ?`
`19:11.17`	`miller7`	`izo: in a point to point I want at one time to add a voice message like "finish up... c'mon" :-)`
`19:12.03`	`miller7`	`to one or both channels while they talk to each other`
`19:12.11`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`19:12.14`	`cypromis`	`tricky one`
`19:12.14`	`cypromis`	`:)`
`19:12.15`	`izo`	`miller7: eagi ?`
`19:12.20`	`miller7`	`cypromis: I know`
`19:12.28`	`miller7`	`izo: what's that?`
`19:12.39`	`izo`	`agi with file descriptor from channels`
`19:12.48`	`miller7`	`gonna google it`
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`19:15.34`	`extremis`	`anyone have any info on setting up callforwarding from an SIP phone with asterisk?`
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`19:30.31`	`extremis`	`ok, how do I setup call forwarding in general?`
`19:30.50`	`cypromis`	`in the dialplan`
`19:30.54`	`cypromis`	`extensions.conf`
`19:31.06`	`cypromis`	`u just define that if this extension is called it should dial another extension`
`19:32.15`	`phsdshft`	`blah`
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`19:33.38`	`Mike`	`i cant wait longer for my X100p`
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`19:39.28`	`point`	`wake up all :)`
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`19:45.11`	`wasim`	`oh, my god`
`19:46.42`	`wasim`	`doughecka!`
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`19:49.28`	`extremis`	`cypromis: I want the users to be able to forward their calls from their phone`
`19:50.45`	`iiano`	`how can I externally trigger (through a script) asterisk to place a phone call? (i.e. a conference room calls me when I run a script)`
`19:52.18`	`miller7`	`extremis: you probably have to write some AGI scripts`
`19:54.11`	`izo`	`iaano: check sample.call file in asterisk`
`19:54.34`	`iiano`	`izo: gotcha.`
`19:55.33`	`JerJer`	`iiano: asterisk manager`
`19:56.00`	`iiano`	`JerJer: is that a piece of software, or a command?`
`19:56.31`	`JerJer`	`API`
`19:56.56`	`phsdshft`	`Hmm.. still no firmer timetable on the FXO/FXS card?`
`19:57.28`	`iiano`	`JerJer: so in place of a script, I'd write a little C prog?`
`19:58.01`	`JerJer`	`or pel`
`19:58.03`	`JerJer`	`or python`
`19:58.09`	`JerJer`	`or god forbid java`
`19:58.12`	`JerJer`	`or sure, C`
`19:58.33`	`iiano`	`groovy.`
`19:58.36`	`iiano`	`thansk.`
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`20:00.12`	`bradwell`	`hello, any one have a minute to help a newbie out with his first install?`
`20:00.36`	`Exomorph`	`Hey JerJer... Hows it going?`
`20:01.16`	`JerJer`	`i'm alive`
`20:01.28`	`Exomorph`	`Just alive? :)`
`20:01.37`	`miller7`	`bradwell: shoot your questions! :)`
`20:01.47`	`bradwell`	`thanks man`
`20:01.48`	`levon`	`lol`
`20:01.58`	`bradwell`	`having a problem with modem.conf`
`20:02.23`	`izo`	`bradwell : voicemodems dont work`
`20:02.24`	`bradwell`	`we dont have a modem, is there any way to disable this all together`
`20:02.46`	`JerJer`	`modules.conf`
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`20:03.26`	`bradwell`	`it seems to be working now, we set autostart to no`
`20:04.13`	`bradwell`	`so, what do I need to configure to get a basic install working, so far it looks like I need zapata.conf, extensions.conf`
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`20:06.32`	`Tekati`	`Connor: You around?`
`20:07.45`	`bradwell`	`sorry, the modem.conf file....does it need to be used?`
`20:08.39`	`bradwell`	`hey man, mind if I shoot you a couple quick questions?`
`20:08.59`	`bkw_`	`JerJer you around?`
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`20:09.39`	`joe_satrinani`	`who knows if kapejod is back ?`
`20:09.45`	`bkw_`	`ast_say_digits(chan, testing, "", chan->language); ... where testing is a 12 digit number....`
`20:10.02`	`bkw_`	`wtf is wrong with this thing.. I had ast_say_digits eating out of my hands`
`20:10.35`	`Tekati`	`Anyone have a ATA286? Have one it works good except the dialtone does not go away after dialing the number until the unit actually places the call. Anyone have any suggestions?`
`20:10.46`	`Exomorph`	`Hey bkw`
`20:11.12`	`JerJer`	`bkw_: not working now?`
`20:11.12`	`Exomorph`	`Hows it going?`
`20:11.40`	`bkw_`	`JerJer apparently you can't do int = '123456789123'; (for testing that is)`
`20:11.44`	`bkw_`	`must be long long`
`20:12.01`	`bradwell`	`can anyone tell me what modem.conf does?`
`20:12.03`	`bkw_`	`evil thing wants int num`
`20:12.16`	`bkw_`	`it should just say what I tell it to say... and be a nice bitch.`
`20:13.16`	`Exomorph`	`LOL Us Programmers only wish what we are programming will do what we say. Man that would make life so much easier!`
`20:13.16`	`bkw_`	`int ast_say_digits(struct ast_channel chan, int num, char ints, char *lang)`
`20:13.34`	`bkw_`	`Exomorph haha ya really`
`20:14.44`	`bkw_`	`FUCKING THING`
`20:14.45`	`bkw_`	`ast_say_digit_str`
`20:17.45`	`Exomorph`	`hehe bkw, it won't help if you yell at it... Many Many people have tried that and it doesn't work very well at all. ;)`
`20:19.36`	`bkw_`	`ACK`
`20:19.40`	`bkw_`	`say is seriously broken`
`20:21.25`	`bradwell`	`hi, any one can help with modem.conf file, I just want to disable it and have no modem modules loaded?`
`20:22.26`	`wasim`	`bradwell: modules.conf`
`20:23.17`	`bradwell`	`wasim: ok in there now`
`20:23.57`	`wasim`	`bradwell: noload => chan_modem.so`
`20:24.22`	`bradwell`	`wasim: just gunna ask that...`
`20:25.24`	`bradwell`	`wasim: ok I put the noload entry in`
`20:26.29`	`wasim`	`goddam ... this is fun, echo on one side only now ... better`
`20:27.27`	`bkw_`	`Tekati ship that 2924 over here.. and go to the dr. that finger might need help after twirling that 2924 around on it.`
`20:27.32`	`joe_satrinani`	`My cvs was compiled on 2003 september 10, I need to update something of relevant interest ?`
`20:28.00`	`bradwell`	`wasim: I did a asterisk -d, the error seems to be gone now, thanks!`
`20:28.07`	`iiano`	`Okay, I've read sample.call; I'm not sure how to do what I wish. I want the phone system to call me, and dump me onto a context.`
`20:28.16`	`iiano`	`I see how to set the context and extension.`
`20:29.36`	`iiano`	`Ideally...it would try my SIP extension, and failing that, dial my cell. :)`
`20:32.04`	`wasim`	`bradwell: hail *`
`20:32.31`	`wasim`	`iiano: should be trivial`
`20:32.41`	`wasim`	`iiano: other than the call progress bit`
`20:33.07`	`iiano`	`wasim: lol. Is the other bit possible?`
`20:33.23`	`bradwell`	`wasim: hail * ? what is this...`
`20:33.26`	`wasim`	`iiano: 22,1,Dial(SIP/blah\|30)\n22,2,DIal(Zap/0cellnumber)`
`20:33.42`	`wasim`	`iiano: and dump that extension / context into your sample.call in outgoing`
`20:33.51`	`wasim`	`bradwell: hail means to exalt, appreciate, etc`
`20:33.58`	`wasim`	`bradwell: * is your friend neighborhood pbx`
`20:34.01`	`bradwell`	`wasim: cool thanks`
`20:34.50`	`bradwell`	`wasim: our big problem seems to be we didn't load a driver for our T100p card`
`20:35.14`	`bradwell`	`wasim: no lights are on....this is on the asterisk / digium page right?`
`20:35.54`	`anti`	`asterisk not using autoconf is giving me heart burn.`
`20:35.57`	`anti`	`:)`
`20:36.00`	`wasim`	`tsk tsk and i was just gonna tell him about the aliens`
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`20:40.02`	`bradwell`	`wasim: sorry, lost my browser.....know where I can find info on installing card`
`20:40.13`	`wasim`	`bradwell: you just missed the aliens`
`20:40.14`	`FuzzyCat`	`hey wasim...`
`20:40.29`	`FuzzyCat`	`when do you expect a production run for your phone?`
`20:40.41`	`wasim`	`FuzzyCat: 1Q03?`
`20:40.43`	`FuzzyCat`	`you upset him wasim`
`20:40.53`	`FuzzyCat`	`by Feb 2nd?`
`20:40.54`	`iiano`	`wasim: I think I'm getting confused as to which end of the call is which. I have a context that rings my different lines until it finds me.`
`20:41.09`	`FuzzyCat`	`03?`
`20:41.17`	`FuzzyCat`	`you mean Q104 surely`
`20:41.27`	`wasim`	`FuzzyCat: should be well on our way by then, err... 04`
`20:41.28`	`FuzzyCat`	`or did you get the time machine working again?`
`20:41.32`	`iiano`	`wasim: that is one endpoint of the call - it will call me. How do I define the other endpoint of the call - i.e., another context/extension?`
`20:41.44`	`wasim`	`yeah, its called IWish`
`20:42.10`	`wasim`	`is Feb02 a deadline?`
`20:42.17`	`FuzzyCat`	`it could be :D`
`20:42.50`	`wasim`	`ok, who wants to be the first to call ?`
`20:42.55`	`wasim`	`iaxtel only`
`20:43.02`	`FuzzyCat`	`actually no, but if I can get a phone that isn;t a prototype by then I would be able to take it to a potential client`
`20:43.03`	`FuzzyCat`	`me`
`20:43.04`	`wasim`	`first live test of eeks`
`20:43.04`	`FuzzyCat`	`me`
`20:43.13`	`FuzzyCat`	`1700 116 6396`
`20:43.20`	`wasim`	`no, you call, i'm not payin`
`20:43.22`	`wasim`	`:P`
`20:43.25`	`FuzzyCat`	`lol`
`20:43.30`	`FuzzyCat`	`wot number?`
`20:43.49`	`FuzzyCat`	`is iaxtel working?`
`20:44.01`	`wasim`	`yeah, should be, you can call m eon nufone too`
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`20:47.26`	`joe_satrinani`	`where I can look for gastman ?`
`20:48.08`	`joe_satrinani`	`where I can look for AGI manual/specifications ?`
`20:48.52`	`lecram`	`is 1700 116* a iaxtel number?`
`20:50.09`	`doughecka`	`hmm, how do I find a uid of a user on me system?`
`20:50.17`	`doughecka`	`find the uid`
`20:50.24`	`FuzzyCat`	`lecram: yes`
`20:50.29`	`FuzzyCat`	`it's a l33t one :D`
`20:50.44`	`iiano`	`doughecka: id <username>`
`20:50.45`	`lecram`	`yes, verry`
`20:50.47`	`doughecka`	`hey wasim: how is the fone? :P`
`20:50.51`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`20:50.53`	`doughecka`	`thx`
`20:51.03`	`iiano`	`doughecka: sure.`
`20:51.20`	`lecram`	`why are they giving out those numbers while they list _17XXNXXXXXX ?`
`20:51.31`	`lecram`	`in the example dialplan they have`
`20:51.49`	`FuzzyCat`	`that's an error lecram - it should have been updated...`
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`20:52.30`	`lecram`	`ah`
`20:52.44`	`doughecka`	`hmm, nfs needs alot of configuring...`
`20:52.57`	`l-fy`	`ehlo`
`20:53.04`	`l-fy`	`i still need some help with my dialogic`
`20:53.13`	`doughecka`	`welcome to the asterisk POP 3 server!`
`20:53.14`	`l-fy`	`seems that my dialogic is broken`
`20:53.37`	`doughecka`	`commands are: HELP ELHO QUIT`
`20:53.39`	`l-fy`	`doughecka > mail from: sex@sex.com`
`20:54.08`	`doughecka`	`error: non local domain`
`20:54.30`	`l-fy`	`doughecka > rcpt to: doughecka_parents@doughecka_house.org`
`20:54.40`	`l-fy`	`doughecka > data`
`20:54.42`	`doughecka`	`ERROR: invalid domain`
`20:54.44`	`doughecka`	`:P`
`20:54.55`	`l-fy`	`doughecka > mature sexy sluts ......`
`20:54.59`	`l-fy`	`doughecka > .`
`20:55.05`	`l-fy`	`doughecka > quit`
`20:55.25`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`20:55.26`	`l-fy`	`doughecka > bwahahahaha`
`20:55.28`	`doughecka`	`I got nfs to work`
`20:55.38`	`doughecka`	`now.. to make it auto mount it`
`20:55.43`	`l-fy`	`nfs like need for speed?`
`20:55.57`	`doughecka`	`nfs like network file system`
`20:56.51`	`l-fy`	`lol doughecka`
`20:56.54`	`iiano`	`doughecka: are you using autofs?`
`20:57.02`	`l-fy`	`now really`
`20:57.15`	`l-fy`	`i have no idee how to verify if my dialogic is broken`
`20:57.33`	`l-fy`	`and i can't wait 1 mounth what take for a digium card to come to me`
`20:57.40`	`ScaredyCat`	`a historic event has just occured`
`20:57.42`	`izo`	`1 MONTH ?`
`20:58.17`	`doughecka`	`iiano: hmm, no`
`20:58.17`	`l-fy`	`izo > yes`
`20:58.20`	`doughecka`	`I dunno`
`20:58.24`	`doughecka`	`am I? :)`
`20:58.32`	`l-fy`	`take at least 2 weeks to make the order and 2 weeks to come`
`20:58.40`	`izo`	`l-fy: uff :-(`
`20:58.48`	`l-fy`	`and because of taxes it will cost me about 900$`
`20:58.54`	`doughecka`	`wow`
`20:58.55`	`l-fy`	`and i have a dialogic here`
`20:58.59`	`doughecka`	`my X100P cost 50 bucks`
`20:58.59`	`l-fy`	`what should i do?`
`20:58.59`	`doughecka`	`:P`
`20:59.08`	`izo`	`but you need to buy dialogic drivers from digium`
`20:59.11`	`iiano`	`doughecka: well. if you want it to automound the nfs drive when you try to access a file there, that's what you want to use.`
`20:59.12`	`l-fy`	`doughecka > i have a 1 E1 dialogic card`
`20:59.20`	`izo`	`lfy and its still doeasnt work`
`20:59.22`	`l-fy`	`izo > i'm using bayonne`
`20:59.39`	`izo`	`l-fy AND YOU LOOK 4 SUPPORT HERE ?`
`20:59.45`	`l-fy`	`izo > i can't start the b channel`
`20:59.55`	`l-fy`	`izo > geeeeeeeeeeeeee, i need first to start the card`
`21:00.04`	`doughecka`	`iiano: ah, is there a how-to somewhere? :)`
`21:00.09`	`l-fy`	`before using any software`
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`21:01.23`	`iiano`	`doughecka: sure. http://www.linux-consulting.com/Amd_AutoFS/autofs.html`
`21:01.45`	`iiano`	`doughecka: but really, if you are doing a single simple mount, it is easy.`
`21:02.07`	`doughecka`	`ah, well, I just want this so I dont have to ftp all my stuff to the server`
`21:02.17`	`doughecka`	`tis a snap server (NAS)`
`21:02.30`	`doughecka`	`so it supports samba, ftp, appletalk, etc`
`21:02.47`	`doughecka`	`oh my`
`21:02.49`	`doughecka`	`this is fuun`
`21:03.03`	`iiano`	`doughecka: wait - when you say automount...do you mean when someone accesses the drive, or just on boot?`
`21:03.07`	`doughecka`	`typing in a serial number on a keyboard that has all the letters scrambled`
`21:03.22`	`doughecka`	`iiano: well, whats better?`
`21:04.12`	`iiano`	`doughecka: what are you running? some linux I assume?`
`21:04.30`	`doughecka`	`redhat 9`
`21:05.25`	`iiano`	`do you just want your box to a) mount the drive when it boots, or do you want it to b) mount the drive whenever someone tries to use a file there, and unmount it afterwards?`
`21:05.31`	`*** join/#asterisk JerJer (~NunYoBizN@pppoe-66-112-51-206-rb2.grp.centurytel.net)`
`21:05.33`	`iiano`	`a is _very_ simple.`
`21:05.38`	`doughecka`	`ah, well, mount when it boots`
`21:05.47`	`doughecka`	`ooh, I could put my home dir on it..`
`21:05.52`	`doughecka`	`interesting`
`21:05.55`	`iiano`	`you want to edit /etc/fstab`
`21:06.08`	`levon`	`bye folks, nice rest of WE to you`
`21:06.12`	`doughecka`	`cya`
`21:06.18`	`doughecka`	`iiano: ah, ok`
`21:06.35`	`iiano`	`the line you add will look like:`
`21:07.00`	`]data[`	`beer does that to you :/`
`21:07.12`	`doughecka`	`ahah`
`21:07.44`	`iiano`	`fileservername:/path/to/mount /local/mount/path nfs defaults,ro 0 0`
`21:07.58`	`*** join/#asterisk cypromis (~michael@217.11.142.161)`
`21:08.14`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`21:08.41`	`doughecka`	`so I could set 2 of those, one in /mnt/snap and another with another folder in THERE, pointed at /home/user?`
`21:09.19`	`iiano`	`yes.`
`21:10.02`	`doughecka`	`cool`
`21:10.20`	`JerJer`	`moo`
`21:10.27`	`af_`	`moo@!`
`21:10.29`	`iiano`	`don't put your mail spool nfs. that's all.`
`21:10.35`	`wasim`	`hear ye, hear ye, ScaredyCat and wasim did first eeks conversation :)`
`21:10.48`	`doughecka`	`but what happens to the files in the dir that I am pointing it to?`
`21:10.52`	`doughecka`	`wasim: SWEET!`
`21:10.54`	`doughecka`	`one way?`
`21:11.07`	`iiano`	`and be aware that nfs does not act gracefully if you just shut down the nfs server without unmounting first.`
`21:11.08`	`wasim`	`no, doughecka, both ways`
`21:11.13`	`ScaredyCat`	`:D`
`21:11.14`	`doughecka`	`BOOYEA`
`21:11.21`	`doughecka`	`iiano: what if I reboot it?`
`21:11.31`	`doughecka`	`this is just for one user`
`21:11.42`	`doughecka`	`so I bet I wont be accessing the files if I am rebooting it`
`21:12.05`	`iiano`	`doughecka: if you use a local mountpoint that has files in it, you won't be able to see them until you unmount it. best to make a dir you won't put anything in.`
`21:12.06`	`bkw_`	`ok enya makes me wanna crap my pants`
`21:12.13`	`doughecka`	`wasim: too bad you cant call me... I am not at work :(`
`21:12.20`	`doughecka`	`unless you call my snap server :)`
`21:12.22`	`doughecka`	`errr`
`21:12.29`	`bkw_`	`snap servers are gay`
`21:12.35`	`doughecka`	`call the * server, and I route the call back to my house`
`21:12.35`	`iiano`	`doughecka: reboot the nfs server or your client?`
`21:12.40`	`doughecka`	`iiano: nfs`
`21:12.53`	`doughecka`	`bkw_: eh?`
`21:13.05`	`doughecka`	`I can only get 4 mbs when transfering files to it`
`21:13.10`	`doughecka`	`I think they are`
`21:13.47`	`mrhyd3`	`anyone in here using a ATA 186?`
`21:14.14`	`bkw_`	`mrhyd3 who isn't would be a better question`
`21:14.52`	`mrhyd3`	`oh, uh...that would be me :)`
`21:15.00`	`doughecka`	`and me`
`21:15.03`	`doughecka`	`send me one`
`21:15.04`	`doughecka`	`:P`
`21:15.35`	`iiano`	`doughecka: it'll prob be okay.`
`21:15.41`	`doughecka`	`ok`
`21:15.48`	`doughecka`	`its setup..`
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`21:16.14`	`doughecka`	`it would suck if it didnt boot up, since I am not local to it :)`
`21:20.49`	`doughecka`	`interesting, the snap server need me to configure the each user for nfs`
`21:21.07`	`doughecka`	`by giving it a UID and ip address`
`21:24.52`	`doughecka`	`now what happens when I boot it up, and it automounts it using fstab? what user mounts it? root?`
`21:25.33`	`voidptr`	`whiii`
`21:25.44`	`blitzrage`	`weeeee!`
`21:25.49`	`voidptr`	`interfaced with eeks!`
`21:25.55`	`doughecka`	`wasim: so anything else work?`
`21:26.23`	`bkw_`	`blitzrage what up`
`21:26.33`	`doughecka`	`wasim: :)`
`21:26.42`	`blitzrage`	`bkw_: what's up guy? I just rolled out of bed :)`
`21:26.50`	`wasim`	`17002820628, first come, first served, eeks inn`
`21:26.52`	`blitzrage`	`bkw_: didn't get home until 8am. Was playing poker all night`
`21:26.53`	`doughecka`	`wasim: bleh, the phone line is used up, so you cant call me`
`21:27.07`	`wasim`	`and dial 6 when you hear words you don't understand`
`21:27.18`	`ScaredyCat`	`pffttt.`
`21:27.39`	`ScaredyCat`	`first come, first served ...`
`21:27.44`	`doughecka`	`wasim: hahahah`
`21:28.37`	`iiano`	`doughecka: you don't want to use the term automount here, it means something different from what you are doing.`
`21:28.42`	`ScaredyCat`	`just the one doughecka?`
`21:28.48`	`doughecka`	`iiano: indeed`
`21:28.52`	`iiano`	`if it is in your /etc/fstab right, mount -a will mount it.`
`21:28.58`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`21:29.05`	`doughecka`	`it reloads fstab and commits the changes?`
`21:29.06`	`iiano`	`your machine does a mount -a when it boots.`
`21:29.17`	`ScaredyCat`	`yes, saying automount in asstricks is dangerous`
`21:29.26`	`doughecka`	`bleh, it cant resolve the name`
`21:30.06`	`JerJer`	`yeeeeehaw`
`21:30.07`	`iiano`	`you committed it when you saved your fstab. you're thinking too complicated. mount just uses fstab for looking up mount points. mount -a mounts all points.`
`21:30.18`	`wasim`	`excellent!`
`21:30.18`	`mrhyd3`	`with Redhat changing all their "stuff" is anyone choosing another distro?`
`21:30.23`	`wasim`	`third call in a row`
`21:30.28`	`mrhyd3`	`or favoring another distro?`
`21:30.34`	`doughecka`	`iiano: interesting :)`
`21:30.34`	`iiano`	`what is my channel if I want to dial out on a SIP line?`
`21:30.58`	`ScaredyCat`	`gentoo!!!`
`21:30.58`	`doughecka`	`iiano: SIP/channel?`
`21:30.58`	`mrhyd3`	`gentoo?`
`21:31.00`	`ScaredyCat`	`gentoo`
`21:31.01`	`doughecka`	`SIP/sip address?`
`21:31.01`	`mrhyd3`	`never used it`
`21:31.04`	`iiano`	`SIP/sipline/phoneno?`
`21:31.18`	`bevins`	`slackware`
`21:31.18`	`ScaredyCat`	`mrhyd3: I run it on my laptop with *`
`21:31.43`	`mrhyd3`	`i started w/ Slack years ago..then Suse,RH, Caldera`
`21:32.10`	`doughecka`	`wasim: you avalible?`
`21:32.28`	`doughecka`	`wasim: gonna try calling PSTN > x100p > iaxtel :)`
`21:32.31`	`bevins`	`yeah I started with slak mandrake redhat. I allways used slack for servers`
`21:32.42`	`wasim`	`doughecka: sure sure`
`21:36.09`	`wasim`	`ok, you need to turn the MIC VOL up!`
`21:36.11`	`doughecka`	`bleh`
`21:36.17`	`wasim`	`but, its works :P`
`21:36.31`	`doughecka`	`this is a regular phone, let me tweak my gain on the x100p`
`21:36.52`	`l-fy`	`so`
`21:36.53`	`wasim`	`blood stains on the bed sheet!`
`21:37.08`	`l-fy`	`anyone who can help me with my dialogic card?`
`21:37.43`	`wasim`	`but, the quality to jerjer was the best so far`
`21:37.54`	`ScaredyCat`	`ahahah....`
`21:37.55`	`blitzrage`	`wasim: what are you testing?`
`21:37.59`	`doughecka`	`his iax phone`
`21:38.06`	`voidptr`	`quality to me was outstanding!`
`21:38.08`	`voidptr`	`dammit :P`
`21:38.24`	`blitzrage`	`wasim: ooooo.. can I give it a test call?`
`21:38.26`	`doughecka`	`where do I increas the gain?`
`21:38.30`	`doughecka`	`zapata?`
`21:38.33`	`ScaredyCat`	`zapata`
`21:38.40`	`ScaredyCat`	`and u need to restart *`
`21:38.43`	`doughecka`	`ok`
`21:38.50`	`doughecka`	`rxgain=20?`
`21:38.53`	`doughecka`	`like that?`
`21:39.01`	`blitzrage`	`isn't that a touch high? :)`
`21:39.10`	`doughecka`	`oh, I wont do it that high yet :)`
`21:39.32`	`wasim`	`blitzrage: sure, 17002820628, then 6 when the gibberish starts`
`21:39.35`	`blitzrage`	`I don't know actually... but I have always seen the gain increased to only like, .5, 1.0`
`21:39.41`	`blitzrage`	`wasim: wicked.. calling now.`
`21:40.33`	`wasim`	`?`
`21:40.41`	`blitzrage`	`wasim: hrm... hit 2, just keeps looping back to the beginning... ?`
`21:40.49`	`wasim`	`6`
`21:40.52`	`blitzrage`	`doh!`
`21:40.53`	`blitzrage`	`lol`
`21:40.55`	`doughecka`	`hahaha`
`21:40.56`	`blitzrage`	`hehe`
`21:41.04`	`blitzrage`	`I just woke up... leave me alone :)`
`21:41.26`	`blitzrage`	`ring`
`21:42.37`	`*** join/#asterisk bradwell (~bradwell@hoochie.digium.com)`
`21:43.23`	`bradwell`	`newbie here having problems compling wct1xxp.c .... any one can help?`
`21:43.43`	`l-fy`	`bradwell > what problem?`
`21:44.05`	`blitzrage`	`hey.. that phone sounds pretty good!`
`21:44.13`	`bradwell`	`I was told I have to do a modprobe -av wct1xx.p`
`21:44.18`	`wasim`	`hey :P`
`21:44.22`	`wasim`	`thanks :)`
`21:44.24`	`l-fy`	`yes bradwell ?`
`21:44.25`	`bradwell`	`but all I have is a .c file, do I need to complie it?`
`21:44.34`	`l-fy`	`bradwell try make`
`21:44.38`	`l-fy`	`and the make install`
`21:44.42`	`blitzrage`	`anyways.. I'm off getting ready now! I'll be looking forward to getting one of those IAX phones (especially if it supports IAX2 as well... ;))`
`21:44.58`	`doughecka`	`wasim: hmm, gonna try in a moment, once I make a menu option so I dont have to enter my credentials to make an outgoing call :)`
`21:45.14`	`wasim`	`iax2 we start working on now that iax is workig properly`
`21:45.19`	`bradwell`	`I-fy: so make wct1xxp.c then a make install on the same file?`
`21:45.33`	`WizardX`	`have probs with DTMF and SJPhone. Any help?`
`21:45.52`	`doughecka`	`wasim: how soon can I get a prototype? :)`
`21:46.19`	`blitzrage`	`wasim: me too :)`
`21:46.23`	`JerJer`	`i already got dibbs on serial number 2`
`21:46.27`	`doughecka`	`JerJer: bah`
`21:46.34`	`doughecka`	`I got dibs on serial number 4!`
`21:46.46`	`doughecka`	`wasim: ok, calling again`
`21:46.52`	`wasim`	`wait, wiat`
`21:46.56`	`doughecka`	`ok`
`21:47.00`	`wasim`	`i'm testing something else`
`21:47.03`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`21:47.11`	`bkw_`	`GOD DAMN IT.. ya know it would be good if I would do this right.`
`21:47.27`	`blitzrage`	`bkw_: usually the way it works :)`
`21:47.48`	`blitzrage`	`i'm outta here to get ready for bar night. Lata sucka's! :)`
`21:47.59`	`bradwell`	`I-fy: I think the make is failing, I get one error...`
`21:48.02`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`21:48.08`	`doughecka`	`ok, once I finish my call, and get my rxgain up, I will post my pstn number for people to call, if they dont have iaxtel setup`
`21:48.14`	`JerJer`	`has anyone acutally gotten Asterisk to work on FreeBSD?`
`21:48.14`	`wasim`	`tomorrow we'll have the phone register to your asterisk servers, so you can interface with it directly`
`21:48.17`	`bkw_`	`I forgot to allocate for the query.. so it was bringing * down.. and causing me much pain`
`21:48.26`	`bkw_`	`:P`
`21:48.28`	`wasim`	`ok, doughecka, call`
`21:48.34`	`doughecka`	`allrighty`
`21:48.36`	`JerJer`	`malloc`
`21:50.01`	`bradwell`	`anyone know why I might be getting an error when I do a make on zaptel?`
`21:50.02`	`bkw_`	`ya that`
`21:50.04`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`21:50.10`	`bradwell`	`zaptel.o?`
`21:51.45`	`doughecka`	`er`
`21:51.46`	`wasim`	`m00`
`21:51.46`	`bkw_`	`haha`
`21:51.47`	`doughecka`	`rxgain`
`21:51.57`	`wasim`	`no, txgain, i can't hear you`
`21:52.00`	`JerJer`	`meep meep`
`21:52.01`	`doughecka`	`yea`
`21:52.17`	`doughecka`	`wait..`
`21:52.18`	`]data[`	`moo moo`
`21:52.24`	`doughecka`	`I want to change rxgain, or txgain..`
`21:52.34`	`wasim`	`]data[: 17002820628 ext 6`
`21:52.34`	`JerJer`	`20 is hardcore too much`
`21:52.36`	`doughecka`	`txgain is what the card is sending to the PSTN... right?`
`21:52.41`	`]data[`	`wasim: pardon ?`
`21:52.50`	`doughecka`	`JerJer: heh`
`21:52.57`	`bkw_`	`OMG THIS THING WORKS!`
`21:53.00`	`iiano`	`It is still unclear to me how to specify the channel for an outgoing SIP call. I can't seem to get the format right.`
`21:53.01`	`doughecka`	`yay`
`21:53.24`	`doughecka`	`iiano: so you have a sip phone wanting to make a call to a channel or what?`
`21:53.36`	`doughecka`	`or you want to dial a sip phone?`
`21:54.00`	`iiano`	`doughecka: I want to dial a real phone through a SIP service.`
`21:54.06`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`21:54.11`	`doughecka`	`I dont know about that :P`
`21:54.15`	`*** join/#asterisk imcdona (~imcdona@000C414824D3.cpe.mvllo.al.charter.com)`
`21:54.33`	`imcdona`	`is anyone here??`
`21:54.37`	`doughecka`	`]data[: heh`
`21:54.41`	`iiano`	`my asterisk is a SIP client for one of our lines. I'd like to call out that line.`
`21:54.56`	`wasim`	`]data[: we're testing eeks`
`21:55.00`	`doughecka`	`hmm, JerJer might know :)`
`21:55.05`	`]data[`	`wasim: eeeeeeeeeks`
`21:55.07`	`imcdona`	`Has anyone got IAXTEL incoming to work???`
`21:55.15`	`wasim`	`imcdona: eeks has :P`
`21:55.25`	`imcdona`	`who is eeks??`
`21:55.53`	`]data[`	`eeks = IAX`
`21:56.10`	`doughecka`	`I allways called it IAX`
`21:56.10`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`21:56.13`	`doughecka`	`I.A.X`
`21:56.17`	`imcdona`	`ohh okk....`
`21:56.20`	`imcdona`	`hehe`
`21:56.29`	`bkw_`	`muahhahahahahahahhaha`
`21:56.33`	`wasim`	`i really should change the name now`
`21:56.34`	`imcdona`	`so IAX has :)???`
`21:56.46`	`wasim`	`it'd get confusing for no reason`
`21:57.03`	`wasim`	`although that should appeal to women`
`21:57.09`	`imcdona`	`I am going to set up a free PSTN node.....`
`21:57.20`	`imcdona`	`call my IAX number and get dialtone.....`
`21:57.27`	`imcdona`	`call anywhere in the USA`
`21:57.34`	`imcdona`	`for testing purposes`
`21:57.36`	`doughecka`	`imcdona: expensive`
`21:57.37`	`doughecka`	`:P`
`21:57.42`	`imcdona`	`that was FWD and IAXTEL could use it`
`21:57.45`	`doughecka`	`BAH!`
`21:57.47`	`imcdona`	`well........`
`21:58.00`	`imcdona`	`ATT CDS told me to use the product as much as`
`21:58.01`	`imcdona`	`I could`
`21:58.05`	`doughecka`	`I keep forgetting my username and password for the eeks forum`
`21:58.06`	`imcdona`	`:)`
`21:58.11`	`doughecka`	`wasim: so what do I want to change?`
`21:58.16`	`doughecka`	`rx or txgain?`
`21:58.17`	`imcdona`	`so I am going to do just that`
`21:58.21`	`wasim`	`doughecka: txgain`
`21:58.28`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`21:58.40`	`doughecka`	`so rxgain is what gets sent OUT the pstn?`
`21:58.46`	`wasim`	`no`
`21:58.54`	`doughecka`	`no`
`21:59.05`	`wasim`	`its what you receive, thus the rx`
`21:59.11`	`wasim`	`and tx gain is what you send`
`21:59.17`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`21:59.22`	`imcdona`	`Can anyone help me???`
`21:59.24`	`doughecka`	`so its from the remote ends perspective`
`21:59.29`	`doughecka`	`confusion`
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`21:59.39`	`wasim`	`doughecka: , nono`
`22:00.06`	`doughecka`	`ok, this time I changed txgain`
`22:00.10`	`doughecka`	`to 5`
`22:00.12`	`wasim`	`doughecka: you have the X100P, your voice gets controlled by txgain, what you hear gets controlled by rxgain`
`22:00.19`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`22:00.29`	`wasim`	`doughecka: and its db, so +3 is 100% increase`
`22:00.35`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`22:00.44`	`doughecka`	`what do you think I should try?`
`22:00.53`	`wasim`	`so, if you want to quadruple it youd put 6.0`
`22:01.01`	`imcdona`	`wasim......let me know when you can talk.......`
`22:01.04`	`doughecka`	`ok, so try 6?`
`22:01.35`	`doughecka`	`wasim: oh yea, and your connection sucks :P`
`22:01.45`	`doughecka`	`when is pk getting another pipe?`
`22:01.49`	`wasim`	`yeah, but i have an eeks phone, so that makes up for it`
`22:01.55`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`22:01.59`	`wasim`	`doughecka: soon, i think in another 3 months`
`22:02.07`	`doughecka`	`thats cool`
`22:02.19`	`doughecka`	`so the overload will be on both pipes`
`22:02.48`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`22:02.52`	`doughecka`	`I saw someone on the webcam`
`22:03.17`	`bradwell`	`hey all, if I do a make install etc for zaptel, libpri, and asterisk should I have a wct1xxp.p file somewhere?`
`22:03.36`	`bradwell`	`so I can so a modprobe on it?`
`22:03.43`	`imcdona`	`in usr/src/zaptel I belive`
`22:03.56`	`bradwell`	`ah, merci..I will check`
`22:04.31`	`imcdona`	`I have a wcfxo and I did a mobprobe on it and it loaded just fine`
`22:04.43`	`imcdona`	`althugh I did not sepcity the .p`
`22:05.07`	`]data[`	`omg`
`22:05.20`	`]data[`	`JerJer: just for a laugh, i just tried compiling asterisk on my bsd box`
`22:05.44`	`]data[`	`JerJer: it failed to compile the db1 support, due to some errors to do with QUEUES and BSD`
`22:05.54`	`bradwell`	`imcdona: I dont seem to have a zaptel dir under src....any ideas?`
`22:05.56`	`]data[`	`JerJer: i removed db1 from the Makefile and recompiled, its running :-)`
`22:06.05`	`doughecka`	`]data[: ahaha`
`22:06.25`	`imcdona`	`I followed the directions for getting the latest CVS at asterisk.org`
`22:06.44`	`imcdona`	`http://www.asterisk.org/index.php?menu=download`
`22:06.46`	`]data[`	`its working fine`
`22:06.53`	`doughecka`	`wasim: ok, gonna try again in a few min`
`22:06.55`	`bradwell`	`I will look for that, many thanks......`
`22:07.12`	`imcdona`	`when I did the CVS download it created all three directories asterisk libpri and zaptel`
`22:08.02`	`imcdona`	`CAn someone tell me how to get IAXTEL working for incoming calls??`
`22:08.22`	`imcdona`	`Even in IAX debug I see no info when I ring the #`
`22:08.32`	`imcdona`	`although Outgoing works just fine`
`22:08.47`	`bradwell`	`imcdona: Thanks....I followed those directions, but no luck.....I'll have to keep looking`
`22:08.57`	`wasim`	`doughecka: hurry up, i wanna get into bed, its freezing`
`22:09.05`	`imcdona`	`good luck`
`22:09.22`	`doughecka`	`wasim: hahah, you can go, I can talk tomorrow/tuesday if you want`
`22:09.27`	`doughecka`	`or can`
`22:09.42`	`wasim`	`(well not really freezing, its 13/55)`
`22:09.48`	`doughecka`	`hah`
`22:10.40`	`wasim`	`but that's freezing for us sun worshippers...`
`22:10.59`	`doughecka`	`bah`
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`22:11.03`	`doughecka`	`its still quiet!`
`22:11.05`	`many`	`hehe`
`22:11.12`	`doughecka`	`I cant figure that out... :)`
`22:11.14`	`many`	`~root`
`22:11.15`		`[root] not a Good Thing to use when using IRC. Please use a different account.`
`22:11.15`	`doughecka`	`er, :(`
`22:13.23`	`doughecka`	`thats at 10!`
`22:13.26`	`doughecka`	`txgain=10`
`22:13.28`	`doughecka`	`I dont get it`
`22:13.37`	`doughecka`	`wasnt someone having this problem before?`
`22:16.51`	`doughecka`	`and wasim is asleep`
`22:17.00`	`wasim`	`no, he's only pretending`
`22:17.21`	`doughecka`	`lights are out`
`22:17.22`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`22:17.33`	`wasim`	`lol, yeah, upstairs`
`22:17.36`	`doughecka`	`ah`
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`22:17.52`	`doughecka`	`well, I dont understand why its so quiet`
`22:18.08`	`wasim`	`it could be two things, a) your phone b) zapata`
`22:18.18`	`doughecka`	`it maybe my phone...`
`22:18.27`	`doughecka`	`since its a cordless`
`22:18.39`	`doughecka`	`but we call other people all the time`
`22:19.53`	`doughecka`	`oh, bloody thing, it works now`
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`22:21.21`	`oki`	`Hello. Anyone up for a definity->T1->Digicom T1 connection issue?`
`22:22.09`	`oki`	`I can actually get the Asterisk box to pick up, but the sound is so bad that you can hardly understand it`
`22:22.28`	`izo`	`oki : you may have synronization issue`
`22:22.35`	`izo`	`as well as ulaw/alaw mismatch`
`22:23.00`	`doughecka`	`woo, I was the 3rd`
`22:23.02`	`oki`	`I've tried all the sync options on the asterisk side. I can't find anything on the Definity to allow me to change sync`
`22:23.04`	`doughecka`	`4th`
`22:23.51`	`oki`	`does anyone know how the definity should be set up? I've configured it as a trunk-group and routed everything through that`
`22:25.21`	`doughecka`	`oooh`
`22:25.41`	`doughecka`	`wasim: if your still there, I applaud the i2c support it will have`
`22:26.11`	`wasim`	`thank you ...`
`22:26.51`	`wasim`	`doughecka: its called a keyboard`
`22:26.54`	`wasim`	`doughecka: and a PC`
`22:26.57`	`doughecka`	`hahah`
`22:27.18`	`doughecka`	`hmm, our pbx at work has text on the phones, it has like 20 preprogrammed messages in it`
`22:27.45`	`wasim`	`doughecka: you can SendTEXT to kingdom come`
`22:27.46`	`doughecka`	`so if someone calls in while your on the line, you can send a message like, call me later or something`
`22:28.08`	`doughecka`	`hmm, iax phone/text messaging boxen`
`22:28.33`	`doughecka`	`can I send text from a sip/iax client, if it supported it? or can the server only send it?`
`22:28.35`	`wasim`	`yeah, i'm evening thinking of an intelligent dictionary like on cell phones`
`22:28.46`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`22:29.02`	`wasim`	`so, text entry is simpler, but i dunno the RAM requirements for a dictionary`
`22:29.05`	`doughecka`	`wow, thats alot of programmable buttons`
`22:29.11`	`oki`	`wow. I changed to mulaw on the Definity and it started working!!! After about 60 hours of playing w/ it. So happy :))) Thanks.`
`22:29.13`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`22:29.33`	`doughecka`	`wasim: so will a few of these buttons be "soft buttons"`
`22:29.44`	`wasim`	`doughecka: all of them`
`22:29.47`	`doughecka`	`so they will mean something on the screen`
`22:30.00`	`wasim`	`doughecka: if you want`
`22:30.32`	`doughecka`	`well, like have 3 buttons near the bottom of the screen, and it will list something above it, like save number, or whatever`
`22:31.04`	`doughecka`	`hey kram`
`22:31.08`	`doughecka`	`hows the iaxy going? :P`
`22:31.08`	`kram`	`greetings`
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`22:32.18`	`mawali`	`kernel: T1: Lost our place, resyncing, why does this happen?`
`22:32.18`	`kram`	`iaxy's coming along well`
`22:32.28`	`kram`	`wish i could get this external flash to work so i could soft upgrade it in the field`
`22:32.31`	`doughecka`	`kram: cool, can I get one yet? :)`
`22:32.46`	`kram`	`:)`
`22:32.57`	`kram`	`well the RJ45's are apparently not going to be in before december`
`22:33.01`	`doughecka`	`!`
`22:33.05`	`doughecka`	`sucks`
`22:33.05`	`kram`	`so that's highly going to delay our 100 prototype construction`
`22:33.18`	`doughecka`	`what are they, rj45 pcm mounts?`
`22:33.28`	`kram`	`with integrated LED's and magnetics`
`22:33.31`	`doughecka`	`oh`
`22:33.34`	`doughecka`	`ooh`
`22:33.36`	`kram`	`yah :)`
`22:33.45`	`doughecka`	`we like lights`
`22:34.11`	`doughecka`	`100 prototypes.. how much do you think they will be?`
`22:34.30`	`voidptr`	`iaxy, is a iax ata right?`
`22:34.36`	`doughecka`	`yah`
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`22:37.06`	`doughecka`	`why 2 layer pcb though?`
`22:37.33`	`kram`	`the prototypes will be $99 just like the final units in single quantity`
`22:37.38`	`DisCorDia`	`anyone an idea if speak-freely is SIP compatible ?`
`22:37.48`	`kram`	`(unless we get some big surprises along the way, which we hope we don't)`
`22:38.04`	`doughecka`	`kram: cool. when is the now revised prototype release date?`
`22:38.25`	`zonyl`	`I tried changing default context to be different between for my x100p and td400 in the zapata.conf file but it doesnt seem to work. Is that possible?`
`22:38.32`	`doughecka`	`btw, do ata devises have echo problems too?`
`22:38.52`	`izo`	`kram: how is echo canceler doing ?`
`22:39.51`	`zonyl`	`context=default\|channel=>1\|context=local\|channel=>2`
`22:40.19`	`zonyl`	`My FXS (channel 2) is using the default context instead of local`
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`22:40.53`	`iiano`	`I'm not having any luck finding the right format for calling a phone number through an outbound SIP line. Any wisdom?`
`22:40.55`	`bradwell1`	`Hi All, anyone know why when I do a modprobe -a wct1xxp.o I get an error stating it cant find the module?`
`22:41.20`	`iiano`	`bradwell: you prob don't need the .o`
`22:41.30`	`bradwell1`	`ah, thank you my friend`
`22:41.56`	`iiano`	`bradwell: well. See if it works. ;)`
`22:42.07`	`zonyl`	`Does anyone know of a zapata.conf / extensions.conf example for someone who has a simple analog FXO and FXS and wants voicemail?`
`22:44.21`	`mawali`	`is anything special to be done to do DTMF detection through a digium T1 card?`
`22:44.48`	`heller`	`plug it in?`
`22:44.51`	`doughecka`	`iiano: exten => _9.,1,Dial(SIP/${EXTEN:1}@sip.provider.com`
`22:45.06`	`mawali`	`thats very special`
`22:45.16`	`doughecka`	`haha`
`22:45.25`	`mawali`	`for soem reason IVR wont respond to DTMF`
`22:45.28`	`doughecka`	`why wouldnt dtmf work?`
`22:45.30`	`doughecka`	`hmm`
`22:45.38`	`doughecka`	`so its not going over any voip?`
`22:45.47`	`mawali`	`no idea, it works fone on non-digium hw`
`22:46.02`	`mawali`	`oh no, strait to T1`
`22:46.16`	`doughecka`	`odd`
`22:46.24`	`doughecka`	`I dont have a T1, so I cant say`
`22:46.33`	`iiano`	`doughecka: so in an outbound call file I could use the channel: SIP/phonenumber@sip.provider.com ?`
`22:46.37`	`imcdona`	`anyone know how to get incoming IAXTEL to work?`
`22:46.47`	`mawali`	`get too may, T1 lost place type errors in debug`
`22:46.47`	`doughecka`	`iiano: hmm`
`22:46.54`	`Mike`	`bkw_: alive?`
`22:47.08`	`doughecka`	`iiano: yes... you may need to put your credentials in there too`
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`22:47.12`	`doughecka`	`I forget how`
`22:47.16`	`doughecka`	`search archives`
`22:47.32`	`mawali`	`hmm doing that`
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`22:48.09`	`blll`	`iaxy?`
`22:48.13`	`doughecka`	`iax ata`
`22:48.18`	`doughecka`	`by digium`
`22:48.29`	`doughecka`	`I can sell you one for 300 dollars`
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`22:48.43`	`doughecka`	`delivery date sometime 3 years from now`
`22:48.44`	`doughecka`	`:)`
`22:49.02`	`blll`	`oh`
`22:49.07`	`blll`	`that's kind of cool`
`22:49.12`	`doughecka`	`j/k`
`22:49.26`	`doughecka`	`I dont have one, but digium really is working on one`
`22:50.16`	`iiano`	`doughecka: I can find some formatting in rfc2543 for it, but I don't think that's correct for this application.`
`22:50.31`	`doughecka`	`rfc?`
`22:50.45`	`doughecka`	`!info sip`
`22:50.51`	`doughecka`	`~sip`
`22:50.53`		`X11 PPP dialer interface written in gtk+. URL: http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/3104/sip/`
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`22:51.11`	`doughecka`	`I never used a sip provider`
`22:52.17`	`bkw_`	`blah timmah`
`22:52.41`	`bkw_`	`ok this is has puzzled me`
`22:52.47`	`bkw_`	`first time around.. valid query`
`22:52.51`	`bkw_`	`still says NO NO NO`
`22:52.52`	`doughecka`	`I thought you got it working`
`22:53.01`	`bkw_`	`second time around the loop its fine.. same query`
`22:54.02`	`adam_gafachi`	`bkw_: are you talking sql?`
`22:54.05`	`bkw_`	`yes`
`22:54.08`	`royk_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.11`	`doughecka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.12`	`bkw_`	`you any good wif this?`
`22:54.20`	`royk_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.22`	`adam_gafachi`	`yeah, hit me`
`22:54.32`	`bkw_`	`ok`
`22:54.55`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.56`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.56`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.56`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.56`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.56`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:54.58`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:55.00`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:55.04`	`bkw_`	`yes tell me what i'm doing wrong`
`22:55.09`	`bkw_`	`doh`
`22:55.15`	`royk_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:55.16`	`bkw_`	`take that free(encdata); out`
`22:56.18`	`adam_gafachi`	`ah, unfortunately I'm not familiar with c's api to mysql...`
`22:56.30`	`bkw_`	`stupid thing will work the second go around`
`22:57.28`	`adam_gafachi`	`why are you allocating a string for the acct_num`
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`22:57.57`	`adam_gafachi`	`why not just use %whatevertheformatting is on the integer`
`22:58.09`	`adam_gafachi`	`acct_number is always going to be an integer?`
`22:58.17`	`bkw_`	`nope`
`22:58.19`	`bkw_`	`its not an int`
`22:58.25`	`bkw_`	`its in the form of 1234-12341234`
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`22:58.33`	`adam_gafachi`	`oh ok`
`22:58.54`	`Mike`	`bkw_: i cant wait no longer for my x100p my friend over usa is coming in 3weeks what can i do mean while???`
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`22:59.04`	`Mike`	`bkw_: why doesnt * support all voicemodems?`
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`22:59.13`	`atacomm`	`grrr, sometimes the people on the Mono project piss me off`
`22:59.18`	`daork`	`Mike: voice modems for the most hard are half duplex`
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`22:59.25`	`daork`	`AFAIK`
`23:00.03`	`daork`	`atacomm: welcome to opensource, the land of zealots.`
`23:00.19`	`adam_gafachi`	`bkw_: have you put a debug line in there to make sure acct_num has a value before that code?`
`23:00.23`	`daork`	`bkw_: what are you working on?`
`23:01.20`	`bkw_`	`oh yes`
`23:01.24`	`Mike`	`daork: theres alot that are not halfduplex`
`23:01.30`	`Mike`	`daork: i have a couple in here`
`23:01.36`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:01.37`	`bkw_`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:01.45`	`bkw_`	`that query is valid`
`23:01.49`	`bkw_`	`and does return results`
`23:01.49`	`daork`	`Mike: so code in support for them`
`23:02.00`	`daork`	`bkw_: does it need a semi-colon after it?`
`23:02.06`	`bkw_`	`nope`
`23:02.12`	`bkw_`	`not in the c api`
`23:02.19`	`atacomm`	`daork: well, its a quite simple problem i had. CultureInfo is an important class in .NET, used by many other classes. In Mono, it relies on an external project called ICU to be installed. If its not, Mono crashes when the class is used saying InvalidArgument. They claim its correct, cuz it doesnt recognize the culture.....i tell them no, because .NET has built in culture lists, they aren't following the specs, and if they have no cultures, they should`
`23:02.24`	`bkw_`	`it executes the query`
`23:02.31`	`daork`	`hmm`
`23:02.42`	`bkw_`	`031115 17:00:39 11 Connect root@localhost on asterisk`
`23:02.42`	`bkw_`	`031115 17:01:02 11 Query SELECT zip FROM customers WHERE acct_number='1234-12341234'`
`23:02.42`	`bkw_`	`031115 17:01:33 11 Quit`
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`23:04.22`	`atacomm`	`daork: i mean, CultureInfo is used by classes like the HttpRequest/Response classes and datasets, all built in classes in the class library...figuring out whats wrong if they dont tell you its because you didnt install an option, is hell...`
`23:04.31`	`bkw_`	`mysql_real_query(MYSQL mysql, const char query, unsigned long length)`
`23:05.46`	`bkw_`	Executes the SQL query pointed to by query, which should be a string length bytes long. The query must consist of a single SQL statement. You should not add a terminating semicolon (`;') or \g to the statement.
`23:06.36`	`daork`	`bkw_: im wondering it its the strlen(query)+255 thats causing a problem ?`
`23:06.55`	`daork`	`heh, bkw_ read the next paragraph`
`23:06.55`	`atacomm`	`why is he adding 255?`
`23:07.04`	`daork`	`about why its faster than mysql_query()`
`23:07.06`	`daork`	`;P`
`23:07.18`	`bkw_`	`daork not sure...`
`23:07.23`	`bkw_`	`but i'm trying mysql_query`
`23:07.26`	`daork`	`bkw_: take of the +255`
`23:07.33`	`bkw_`	`oh did that moments ago`
`23:07.36`	`bkw_`	`still does the same thing`
`23:07.39`	`atacomm`	`heh`
`23:07.40`	`daork`	`hmmm`
`23:07.42`	`daork`	`weird`
`23:08.00`	`daork`	`atacomm: what is a 'culture'`
`23:08.18`	`vindex`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:08.23`	`atacomm`	`you know, thats why i love languages that are higher-level than C....no length of string requirements....no need to remember to place a null at the end.......damn I hated that about C`
`23:08.24`	`royk_home`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:08.37`	`daork`	`atacomm: i like c`
`23:08.38`	`doughecka`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:08.39`	`daork`	`err`
`23:08.53`	`daork`	`atacomm: i like c's rawness, requiring you to do that stuff`
`23:08.56`	`atacomm`	`daork: such as en-US .... it basically sets some things for interopability between multiple systems with data......sets default encoding, etc`
`23:09.05`	`daork`	`oh ok`
`23:09.17`	`bkw_`	`daork me too.. I'm new to c..`
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`23:09.34`	`atacomm`	`daork: dont get me wrong, C rocks, had a 2-year project of mine where i built an in-house kernel, until i lost the last 4 months when my laptop was stolen 3 years ago....then i gave up, lol`
`23:09.46`	`ricky`	`hello`
`23:09.49`	`doughecka`	`hahaa`
`23:09.49`	`daork`	`bkw_: its got a certain 'im in control' feeling huh`
`23:09.53`	`daork`	`atacomm: :/ doh`
`23:10.15`	`daork`	`bkw_: what are you writing?`
`23:10.42`	`atacomm`	`daork: wonder what exactly i have backed up, i got PnP and PCI configuring working, but i'm not sure whether that part was on the backup, or lost`
`23:10.58`	`ricky`	`hello...i got asterisk installed along with adtran750 channel bank`
`23:10.59`	`bkw_`	`usr/sbin/safe_asterisk: line 77: 4514 Segmentation fault asterisk ${ASTARGS} 1>&/dev/${TTY} </dev/${TTY}`
`23:10.59`	`bkw_`	`Asterisk ended with exit status 139`
`23:11.02`	`bkw_`	`LOVE THAT`
`23:11.15`	`ricky`	`want to test DIAX`
`23:11.27`	`atacomm`	`rofl.....nice that you dont get better debug info heh`
`23:11.28`	`ricky`	`i am not sure how to set-up iax.conf for such testing`
`23:11.30`	`bkw_`	`daork i'm writing our account payment and info ivr in c`
`23:11.40`	`daork`	`atacomm: hmm. what were you writing your own kernel for`
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`23:11.45`	`ricky`	`any help would be appreciated`
`23:12.06`	`lecram`	`ricky: did you look at the sample iax.conf ?`
`23:12.16`	`ricky`	`i want to be able to access outside line using DIAX when i am on the road`
`23:12.25`	`ricky`	`i have a sample file but can not understand`
`23:12.31`	`Lafinion`	`hallo all.`
`23:12.31`	`ricky`	`just started asterisk stuff`
`23:12.44`	`ricky`	`let me paste my current iax.conf`
`23:12.54`	`mawali`	`is t100p full duplex?`
`23:13.01`	`atacomm`	`daork: for a while wanted to do my own OS.....it was based on a modified design of MS's COM. The COM engine actually loaded before the kernel, everything including memory management was all object oriented....was pretty cool....actually, even COM was object oriented.....it was pretty complex to load that because I had to initialize several COM objects manually :)`
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`23:13.06`	`lecram`	`ricky: that would not be a good idea`
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`23:13.31`	`daork`	`atacomm: crazy shit. what was the application? if i am allowed to ask :)`
`23:13.54`	`ricky`	`okay`
`23:14.09`	`atacomm`	`daork: I was planning on building it as a windows replacement.....i had NDAs with NVidia and ATI and Creative at the time to develop drivers for their hardware....got close to that point, but never made it that far`
`23:14.11`	`lecram`	`can you put it up somewhere, and paste a link?`
`23:14.16`	`ciy_`	`optimized athlon kernel still a prolem, manual is from 2002`
`23:14.17`	`ricky`	`is there a step by step instruction on how to set-up iax.conf for my purpose`
`23:14.40`	`ricky`	`basically, i would like to set-up something like dialpad`
`23:14.49`	`daork`	`cool`
`23:14.55`	`imcdona`	`speaking of IAX`
`23:15.07`	`wasim`	`iax rules`
`23:15.09`	`imcdona`	`anyone know hwo to get incoming IAXTEL to work???????`
`23:15.33`	`doughecka`	`did you put the iaxtel entry at the bottom of iax.conf?`
`23:15.37`	`imcdona`	`wasim....you know how???`
`23:15.38`	`ricky`	`hello lecram....can you point me to a sample set-up`
`23:15.40`	`lecram`	`imcdona: http://www.iaxtel.net/setup.html`
`23:15.43`	`ciy_`	`any1 use an optimized athlon kernel`
`23:15.47`	`atacomm`	`daork: the sucky part that slowed me down was manually creating the stupid COM definition files....each method was given a UUID....it became a pain (I had my own tools to compile the definitions into special headers, etc....) .... if I had to do it all over, istead of COM i'd build the OOP model on .NET, which uses a much cleaner and advanced object model`
`23:15.51`	`doughecka`	`wasim is asleep`
`23:15.53`	`wasim`	`ciy_: yes`
`23:16.01`	`doughecka`	`or not`
`23:16.05`	`imcdona`	`that does not cover the INCOMING iax`
`23:16.07`	`wasim`	`no, he's asleep`
`23:16.13`	`imcdona`	`incominf IAX works from voicepulse`
`23:16.14`	`doughecka`	`oh, this is his AI`
`23:16.19`	`imcdona`	`just not IAXtel`
`23:16.21`	`wasim`	`resdiue`
`23:16.23`	`Mike`	`bkw_: a quicknet card can be used to put in a phone line?`
`23:16.30`	`doughecka`	`ah`
`23:16.59`	`daork`	`atacomm: i have no idea about COM and .NET and stuff like that, so nods and looks like he knows whats going on`
`23:17.05`	`wasim`	`Mike: fleabay it, and buy an X100P`
`23:17.25`	`mawali`	`could the reason for DTMF with my IVR not working that T100P T1/PRI is half duplex??`
`23:17.27`	`Mike`	`fleabay?`
`23:17.38`	`Mike`	`sorry about my english dont understand`
`23:17.52`	`ciy_`	`ebay but funny like`
`23:18.01`	`Mike`	`wasim: i did but i live in mexico a friend in usa has them and its coming in 3 weeks cant wait longer`
`23:18.03`	`mawali`	`he meant e-bay type of service`
`23:18.55`	`atacomm`	`daork: hehe....well, lets just put it this way. .NET stores so much MetaData in a file header that you dont need pre-built interface code...or headers..... object layout, enums, etc, are all stored in binary form in the executable header...meaning for example if Enums change after your app is compiled, and you get the new binary library....the app will take the new enum values because they are late bound......very slick`
`23:19.02`	`lecram`	`ricky: http://www.sprackett.com/asterisk/`
`23:19.14`	`daork`	`ah, nice`
`23:19.35`	`ciy_`	`wasim manual says to not use optimized athlon, says to compile as 686 :( , do u use hardware as well?`
`23:19.48`	`wasim`	`ciy_: what manual?`
`23:19.51`	`ricky`	`thanks lecram`
`23:19.56`	`ricky`	`i will check this out right now`
`23:20.06`	`atacomm`	`daork: and as long as an executable isnt encrypted, you can open it in a debugger, and view all the classes inside it, all the members, the functions and what their parameters are, etc.....very slick`
`23:20.29`	`ciy_`	`asterisk_project_handbook_v1.pdf`
`23:20.42`	`mawali`	`yup anything from M$ seems cool but craps out when put in real world`
`23:20.56`	`lecram`	`imcdona: check out the same link I just pasted`
`23:20.59`	`learath`	`there has been cool MS software? When?`
`23:21.12`	`mawali`	`sounds cool i said`
`23:21.28`	`mawali`	`or seems sorry`
`23:21.31`	`atacomm`	`lol, mawali: .NET doesnt crap out.... but Mono seems to be a very good clone of it so far.....i'm building monitoring software for * and Linux in .NET and running it under Mono on RH9`
`23:21.37`	`wasim`	`ciy_: that's kinda old ... i'd read it dilligently, but not everything is the same with current cvs, athlon kernels are just fine`
`23:21.42`	`imcdona`	`thanks lecram......I will check that out`
`23:21.46`	`ciy_`	`u rock`
`23:21.55`	`mawali`	`;-)`
`23:22.18`	`ciy_`	`really didn't want to recompile for a 686 processor`
`23:22.36`	`ciy_`	`ew ew and ew`
`23:22.41`	`atacomm`	`mawali: of course that does have a negative, if you arent paying attention and release an executable without encryption, it makes it very easy for a decompiler to get perfect source back.....`
`23:22.54`	`daork`	`learath: windows is very cool IMO it beats XFree86 as a desktop hands down.`
`23:23.06`	`zygut_`	`daork: blah on tha`
`23:23.08`	`zygut_`	`t`
`23:23.16`	`daork`	`heh`
`23:23.16`	`atacomm`	`lol`
`23:23.28`	`mawali`	`what. windows is an OS and xfree86 is just X, how can you compare them??`
`23:24.04`	`mawali`	`oh now it was wondows vx X (correction) ;-)`
`23:24.05`	`zygut_`	`troll: An electronic communication which is intentionally incorrect, but not overtly controversial , or the act of sending such a message. Trolling aims to elicit an emotional reaction from those with a hair-trigger on the reply key.`
`23:24.07`	`ciy_`	`windows has the new splashguard keyboards for those who drool`
`23:25.03`	`learath`	`daork: yes, I remember you. Go admin for a few years and come back when you've learned.`
`23:25.31`	`daork`	`learath: i have :)`
`23:25.57`	`learath`	`you may have admined for a few years, but you have yet to learn. I required both.`
`23:25.59`	`wasim`	`i thought we laid to rest this windows vs linux nonsense with 0.99, that kernel had more features and was more stable ...`
`23:26.07`	`atacomm`	`i actually hate X.....too bad other better projects were so late .....`
`23:26.10`	`learath`	`wasim: it took till .99?`
`23:26.16`	`mawali`	`I am not in a position to compare anyway, I havent used wondows since 3.1`
`23:26.17`	`daork`	`learath: windows is great as a desktop OS. :)`
`23:26.27`	`learath`	`daork: right.`
`23:26.41`	`atacomm`	`my two Win2k servers actually do great.....`
`23:26.48`	`ciy_`	`for gaming, yes, just from selection`
`23:27.14`	`atacomm`	`of course, i've also got 4 linux servers and 2 OS X servers`
`23:27.31`	`bkw_`	`SMACK`
`23:27.37`	`atacomm`	`lol`
`23:27.47`	`atacomm`	`only 1 is being used`
`23:27.58`	`atacomm`	`the other one has been idling for 13 months`
`23:28.02`	`daork`	`ciy_: i also find that the UI is alot more responsive than anything else. and im not talking about servers, im talking about desktop machines.`
`23:28.14`	`mawali`	`I work for Genome Sequencing we use all linux workstations and do stuff windows would never be able to, depends on application, for a regular user wondows is sufficient`
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`23:29.08`	`mawali`	`that said, any T100P users here?`
`23:29.26`	`atacomm`	`daork: actually it will be interesting to see what happens no. MS has a project related to Longhorn called Avalon, adds a QuartzExtreme type technology to .NET....Mono guys are scratching their heads how to do this on Linux because there are so many other projects they have to interact with to pull it off..... now that is a definate disadvantage for X-Windows/Linux on the GUI front`
`23:29.53`	`daork`	`quartzextreme?`
`23:30.18`	`atacomm`	`daork: Apple's rendering engine.....does translucency and layering and scaling.......at very high speeds`
`23:30.34`	`daork`	`haha, the second hit on google is that damned wlug wiki again!`
`23:30.45`	`atacomm`	`daork: its what makes OS X's graphics systems superior to Windows and X right now`
`23:30.53`	`daork`	`ahh`
`23:31.12`	`daork`	`i have yet to try an os X machine. i've actaully been considering purchasing a G5`
`23:31.19`	`atacomm`	`(which, i've got to admit is cool, that apple's whole rendering engine and GUI is based on PDF)`
`23:32.28`	`daork`	`?`
`23:33.10`	`mawali`	`Gentoo and Os-X on the same machine show that actually Linux/X has lesser latency for smaller processors`
`23:33.26`	`mawali`	`and lesser memory`
`23:33.59`	`atacomm`	`daork: its pretty cool, apple's rendering engine is based on PDF....i think its a compiled form....but it uses PDF operations and commands to build the graphics displayed on screen....infact, you can easily with one command on their programming enviroment save the graphics buffer to a PDF file`
`23:34.03`	`mawali`	`Also linux give really good performance on Opteron`
`23:34.23`	`atacomm`	`I see Sun is going Opteron....kind of surprised me`
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`23:34.30`	`daork`	`yeah? weird`
`23:34.40`	`daork`	`atacomm: they have been muttering about it for a while`
`23:34.40`	`wasim`	`mawali: who has an opteron handy, lets do some ilbc tests on that`
`23:35.03`	`mawali`	`for the same price Opteron is 4times fatrer for genetic processing than any Xeon and has similer price`
`23:35.15`	`daork`	`yep`
`23:35.20`	`mawali`	`I can get you access to one`
`23:35.31`	`daork`	`also, they rock for IP packet processing`
`23:35.45`	`atacomm`	`daork: well i guess its not totally new....cant remember which UNIX system it is, but one of them (It isn't X is it?) works with PostScript internally.....or maybe that was NeXTStep....which OSX is based on and was upgraded to PDF from`
`23:36.06`	`daork`	`hmm, i've no idea`
`23:36.16`	`daork`	`its a really cool idea though`
`23:36.21`	`mawali`	`SOlaris works with display postscripts so did nextStep`
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`23:36.47`	`daork`	`whats up with these 'emac' things`
`23:36.49`	`atacomm`	`mawali: right, but is Solaris's graphics pipeline based on postscript? the OSX graphics pipeline is based on PDF`
`23:36.57`	`daork`	`thats uh, an interesting name for a mac..`
`23:37.33`	`beorn`	`Has anyone been able to get two machines to talk to each other with IAX? (Two X100P cards in different locations, want to make a long distance call)`
`23:37.46`	`daork`	`atacomm: a graphics system based on pdf cant be too fast, surely`
`23:37.46`	`mawali`	`not sure since solaris uses X, but I know OSX is pdf`
`23:37.51`	`atacomm`	`they are missing amac, omac, and umac`
`23:38.20`	`atacomm`	`daork: oh, its mighty fast....PDF is actually quite simple, commands for setting brush color, brush movements, etc..... in compiled form, it would be very fast`
`23:38.55`	`daork`	`hmm, i guess so`
`23:38.55`	`Celtic`	`beorn: whdaya mean two X100Ps in different places`
`23:39.21`	`beorn`	`Celtic, I have two computers in different cities`
`23:39.25`	`beorn`	`Each has an X100P`
`23:39.34`	`beorn`	`I can into the first computer's phone #`
`23:39.38`	`Celtic`	`beorn:If you want a phone in place connected to one * to use a PSTN line attached via an X100P to another * box that works fine`
`23:39.41`	`beorn`	`and I want to make a call in the othe rcity`
`23:39.58`	`Celtic`	`Do it every day`
`23:40.13`	`beorn`	`Did you ever get this error?`
`23:40.15`	`beorn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:40.39`	`mawali`	`I have not been able to bake a T1 loop back call through T100P or make it work fdx`
`23:40.44`	`Celtic`	`Don't know but it looks like a warning rather than an error`
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`23:41.00`	`beorn`	`Celtic, Can I show you my conf files quickly?`
`23:41.04`	`Carp`	`new CVS trees, whats this mean?`
`23:41.07`	`beorn`	`I must have an eror`
`23:41.21`	`atacomm`	`Carp: seeds dropped on the ground, new CVSs are sprouting`
`23:41.33`	`Celtic`	`beorn: Dialplan in city 1 needs to identify traffic it wants to send to second * and then send it via IAX`
`23:41.51`	`beorn`	`Here's what I got off of hacklocalhost's IAX alpha script`
`23:42.02`	`Celtic`	`beorn:each * box needs IAX ogin on the other`
`23:42.17`	`mawali`	`since 1 T1 channel is half duplex how do we map a conversation in zaptel???`
`23:43.15`	`mawali`	`suppose I land at Zap/1-1, where would be my transmit channel, since Zap/1-1 is receive it that right??`
`23:44.04`	`beorn`	`Celtic, I copied it to ya`
`23:44.06`	`beorn`	`I want to pick up a regular phone in my city, call the phone number of the X100P card, type some digits that correspond to a number that is local in the SECOND city`
`23:45.11`	`Celtic`	`beorn - yeah but I'm not gonna read through it all ! Tell me the errors you see and I'll comment - if you don't see errors but the calls don't work switch on debug so you see if the IAX calls are getting through`
`23:45.14`	`mawali`	`you shoudl make an extensio with Dial(IAX/<IP_ADD>) or something like that, just look at the demo that connects you to digium`
`23:45.30`	`beorn`	`Celtic, I pasted to you the error`
`23:46.09`	`beorn`	`Celtic, since both terminal's show an error and the other a warning, I am guessing the SOMETHING is getting passed between them`
`23:46.24`	`heller`	`iax debug`
`23:46.28`	`heller`	`then see what it says.`
`23:46.35`	`beorn`	`how do I turn that on?`
`23:46.44`	`heller`	`talk sexy to it.`
`23:46.46`	`Celtic`	`beorn: What context do you think you are placing calls to`
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`23:47.11`	`beorn`	`context mtlott`
`23:47.26`	`beorn`	`heller, what command to start debugging`
`23:47.46`	`Celtic`	`iax debug`
`23:48.05`	`beorn`	`oh ok`
`23:48.28`	`beorn`	`Tx-Frame Retry[002] -- Seqno: 01 Type: IAX Subclass: LAGRQ`
`23:48.28`	`beorn`	`<PROTECTED>`
`23:48.32`	`beorn`	`What is all this stuff?`
`23:48.38`	`heller`	`the debug info.`
`23:49.15`	`beorn`	`It is showing that there is another friend pinging it??`
`23:50.30`	`Celtic`	`beorn: If these boxes are actually in different cities are they behind firewalls ?`
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`23:51.41`	`beorn`	`Celtic, they are behind firewalls, but the facts that the second box puts a 'warning' just as a place the call into the first one . . .suggests that they ARE talking.`
`23:53.00`	`Celtic`	`beorn: Well place safe and use iax show registry so we know they are registered and keeping a hole punched through the fw`
`23:53.35`	`Celtic`	`what do you dial from sys 1 to place a call out through sys 2`
`23:54.01`	`beorn`	`*CLI> iax show registry`
`23:54.01`	`beorn`	`Host Username Perceived Refresh State`
`23:54.01`	`beorn`	`64.26.147.52:5036 otter <Unregistered> 60 Request Sent`
`23:54.16`	`beorn`	`Celtic: I dial 6 and then the local phone number in city 2`
`23:54.33`	`Celtic`	`Unregistered isn't good :-)`
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`23:54.51`	`beorn`	`Oh man`
`23:54.53`	`beorn`	`hmmmm...`
`23:56.36`	`beorn`	`It is doing PING, LAGRQ, REGREQ, ACK over and over`
`23:56.40`	`beorn`	`What does that mean?`
`23:56.47`	`beorn`	`It can't register??`
`23:57.06`	`Celtic`	`Isn't registered - check the other one`
`23:57.28`	`Celtic`	`In your extensions.conf it looks like only 2222 hits the X100P on the remote anyway`
`23:57.55`	`beorn`	`Oh hmmmm....`
`23:58.05`	`Celtic`	`Have you tried dialing 62222`
`23:58.12`	`beorn`	`Lemme try`
`23:58.26`	`Celtic`	`and all that will get is dial tone prob`
`23:58.30`	`beorn`	`BTW, they are both doing that whole ping, ACK stuff`
`23:58.42`	`zygut_`	`anyone gotten kphone to work?`

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