IRC log for #asterisk-doc on 20070423

00:08.30blitzragenop
00:08.31blitzragenope*
00:08.41blitzrageI just finished writing another section though
00:16.18bkruse_homeawesome!
00:16.21bkruse_homerock on
00:16.30bkruse_homepublishers not getting on ur butt yet are the?
00:16.32bkruse_homethey*
00:31.45blitzragea bit
00:31.55blitzragebut I can't write all day... I got a real job too :)
00:32.36blitzrageoff to make dinner now...
00:34.47bkruse_homekk, have fun bud!
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13:30.15jsmithHello everyone
13:30.19blitzragehoi hoi
13:30.34blitzragew00t!
13:30.41blitzragecan you live in it yet? :)
13:30.48jsmithNo... not for another 6 weeks or so
13:30.53jsmithWanna see pics?
13:30.56blitzragesure!
13:31.21blitzragemy new E61i arrives today!!!
13:31.36blitzrageso I better make an invoice so I can pay for it... :)
13:31.42blitzragenot that I get paid on time or anything
13:32.01jsmithI'm so jealous....
13:32.11jsmithLet me know when you get it, and I'll point you at all the cool software for it.
13:32.19blitzragesweet!
13:32.23blitzrageI need an ssh client for sure
13:32.40blitzragewhen it gets here, that's pretty much what I'll be playing with for part of the day I imagine....
13:33.05blitzragecost me like $100 to get it across the border though :(
13:33.14blitzrageexpensive phone....
13:33.29blitzrageguess I'll just have to hold onto it for 5 years just like my other Nokia
13:35.38blitzrageApr 23, 2007    9:07 AM  
13:35.38blitzrage
13:35.38blitzrageOn FedEx vehicle for delivery  
13:35.38blitzrage
13:35.38blitzrageTORONTO, ON  
13:35.38blitzrage
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13:35.44blitzrage
13:35.46blitzrageAt local FedEx facility  
13:35.48blitzrage
13:35.50blitzrageTORONTO, ON
13:35.54blitzragew00t!
13:35.58blitzrageit left the depot 30 mins ago!
13:38.28jsmithw00t!
13:39.16jsmithhttp://s2putty.sourceforge.net/
13:39.20brac[PuTTY for Symbian OS]
13:41.29blitzragewicked!
13:51.43filegot some bank drafts to keep the rental company happy
13:51.45filesafe deposit box
13:51.52fileit's all good
13:52.02blitzragehandy
13:52.13blitzrageanyone wanna move in with me at the end of August?
13:52.32fileanyone who does is CRAZY
13:53.08blitzrage...yes
13:53.50filenow to get my landlord over here
13:57.40blitzragegrrrr
13:59.25jsmithIn Canada, or the US?
14:01.22blitzragein the US
14:01.36blitzragehttp://www.myworldphone.com/nokia_n61i.html?gclid=CKmUxtmB2YsCFQ1HQQodsCohVQ
14:01.41brac[Nokia E61i, 2.0 MP Camera, 3.5G, WLAN]
14:01.43blitzrage$499 instead of the $549 I paid
14:22.40blitzragefile: you ever get that GROUP() stuff merged into 1.2/1.4 ?
14:22.46blitzrageor is there still an outstanding issue?
14:22.57filestill an outstanding issue, last week was all training
14:23.05blitzrageoh yes, that's right
14:23.12blitzragethinking you're going to get back on that horse this week?
14:23.17fileyes
14:23.19blitzragesweet
14:23.22filehave a critical lumenvox bug too...
14:23.27blitzragepossibly merged in by the end of the week?
14:23.39blitzrageor maybe a 1.4 branch I can test?
14:23.43fileyarrrrrrrrrrr
14:23.51filesacrifice a muffin to thy god
14:23.53blitzragedon't do it now -- do your lumenvox bug first
14:24.14blitzrageI'm just curious because we're getting close to rolling out to production, and I saw GROUP() crash my asterisk at high load....
14:24.17blitzragealthough it only did it once...
14:31.35blitzrageI need food I think
14:42.02blitzragejsmith: did you notice I opened that two Asterisk boxes registration bug that oej closed a while back?
14:51.09jsmithblitzrage: I did
14:52.33blitzrageI couldn't get the domain auth stuff to work
14:53.01blitzrageI had to use the register => asterisk_a:welcome@asterisk_b_ip/asterisk_b trick to make it all work
14:53.13blitzragenothing else would work for me
14:53.28blitzrageso that's how I documented it in chapter 4 since I don't expect much to happen for a while
14:53.45jsmithYeah... it's an architecture issue, and nobody wants to address it
14:53.56blitzragenot ideal, but it works, so I documented what works, and not how it *should* work :)
14:53.57jsmithHopefully fixed in chan_sip[34]
14:54.39filejsmith!
14:54.48blitzrage:D
14:54.48jsmithGood morning file
14:55.00filehow are we today?
14:59.47blitzragebreakfast time!
15:00.49jsmithGee... I've already had my *second* breakfast
15:00.56jsmith(and that was sausage and eggs)
15:01.47blitzragegonna have eggs and hashbrowns here
15:01.59blitzragejsmith: what would be a good AMI function to simply check if Asterisk is alive?
15:02.04blitzrageis there like... a Ping function?
15:02.07jsmithblitzrage: Ping
15:02.09blitzragelol
15:02.11blitzragethere is!
15:02.12jsmithAction: Ping
15:02.13blitzrageAsterisk kicks ass
15:02.36jsmithOf course
15:03.54blitzragenice -- ok, I'll have to write a script that checks for Asterisk connectivity and rebuilds the distribution.list file for OpenSER when a server falls down
15:07.37jsmithToo bad SER is just a proxy... otherwise it could periodically send out OPTIONS packets and look for the response.
15:09.13blitzragetrue
15:09.33blitzrageI think a script running on the SER box should be fairly light...
15:09.41blitzrageany idea if you can make PHP a daemon?
15:09.54blitzrageI guess I could just make an infinite loop with sleep()
15:10.20blitzrageWhile(1) { do_stuff;\n sleep(30); }
15:14.24russellbwhat language is that?
15:14.52russellbcapital While?  explicit \n?  :-p
15:15.01blitzrage:)
15:15.09blitzragepseudo :)
15:15.20russellbah yes
15:22.53Juggieblitzrage is a haxor
15:23.25blitzragehack teh planet!
15:24.17Juggiei've been tempted to try chan_bluetooth
15:24.23Juggiedoes it work well?
15:25.39russellbchan_cellphone?
15:25.51Juggie?
15:25.56russellbit's on the bug tracker
15:26.01russellbtry that one
15:26.03Juggiei've never heard of a chan_cellphone
15:26.13russellbit's hot
15:26.29russellbusing cell phones as an FXO basically
15:26.42Juggiei thought thats what chan_bluetooth did
15:26.56russellbbut this one is going to get merged into the tree
15:27.00Juggieer nm, i just have a bad memory i guess.
15:27.05Juggiei was looking @ this bug
15:27.08russellbah
15:27.30Juggiei setup BT at home and i can sync anywhere in my house
15:27.33Juggiei was quite impressed.
15:27.39Juggie(i know i know, welcome to 2007)
15:30.16blitzrage(yet!)
15:30.25Juggieyou should find yourself a BT2.0 adapter
15:30.34Juggieyou will want to have one for your E61
15:30.41blitzrageyep, for sure
15:30.55blitzragesince the desktop n'or laptop have BT
15:31.04Juggiebestbuy has a BT2.0 adapter, keyboard and mouse for 59
15:32.31Juggieblitzrage, cbc showed a classic game last night, flames vs oilers 1986 game7.
15:32.49Juggieit was the one where steve smith scored on his own net trying to make a pass out which hit of fuhr
15:35.43jsmithblitzrage: Your laptop doesn't have Bluetooth?
15:35.55Juggieblitzrage's laptop is like 10 years old
15:36.06jsmithI know.
15:36.09jsmithI've touched it.
15:36.23jsmithI've taught it's who's boss.
15:36.28jsmithI've even reformatted it
15:36.37Juggiemy laptop doesnt have BT either
15:36.51jsmithMine does :-)
15:36.54jsmithI love bluetooth
15:37.11Juggiejsmith, i payed 0$ for mine :)
15:37.27blitzrageno BT in my laptop sadly
15:37.36jsmithI didn't pay for this laptop either
15:38.39Juggiemines a dell d600
15:38.42Juggiework didnt buy the bt option
15:38.47Juggiei could buy it i guess, but meh.
15:39.03jsmithMine is a hand-me-down, but I love it
15:41.31Juggiehmmm
15:41.36Juggiethe adapter is only 25$ on ebay
15:43.14Juggiebut its not worth that, i can get a usb bt2.0 for that price
15:45.55blitzrageI wish I remembered to ask the Bell guy for a DSL filter while he was here
15:47.54Juggieblitzrage, go to bell world and ask for some.
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15:53.30blitzragegood idea... I might try that
16:00.52blitzragesweet
16:01.04filemy taxes were ... accessed as what I thought!
16:01.10fileaccessed? acessed?
16:01.11filewhatever
16:01.20blitzrageassessed?
16:01.26blitzragethat doesn't look right either
16:01.28filethere we are!
16:01.32filegetting better
16:01.36blitzrageclose enough :)
16:06.43jsmithfile: Yes?!?
16:07.21jsmith100 Trying
16:09.15filestatus of house?
16:13.15blitzrageChecked out revision 1337.
16:13.15blitzragelol
16:18.37jsmithfile: http://beta.zooomr.com/photos/jsmith
16:21.17fileoooooooh
16:21.41jsmithYou like?
16:21.59fileyes
16:22.04fileand *gasp* jsmith's child processes
16:22.26jsmithYup...
16:23.16blitzragelol
16:24.24Juggieblitzrage, this is fantastic weather
16:24.32blitzrageJuggie: its amazing out
16:24.37blitzrageI'm going for a bike ride in a bit
16:24.44blitzrageI should probably go sooner rather than later... it looks like it wants to rain
16:25.10Juggiemeh a bit of rain coudnt hurt.
16:25.35blitzrageunless I fall off my bike
16:25.45Juggiethat would be your own dumb fault
16:26.21Juggieyou know what i hate, money.
16:26.45Juggieonly another 1.2weeks until payday! :(
16:27.01Juggienext month is 3 payday month.
16:27.17Juggiewhich is nice, means i can pay off some debt!
16:32.15blitzragehrmmmm.... what would I be missing here... ?
16:32.17blitzrageautoconf
16:32.17blitzrageautoconf: no input file
16:32.17blitzragemake[3]: *** [config.h] Error 1
16:32.17blitzragemake[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk-1.4-mix-development/menuselect/mxml'
16:32.17blitzragemake[2]: *** [mxml/libmxml.a] Error 2
16:32.18blitzragemake[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk-1.4-mix-development/menuselect'
16:32.20blitzragemake[1]: *** [all] Error 2
16:32.22blitzragemake[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/asterisk-1.4-mix-development/menuselect'
16:32.24blitzragemake: *** [menuselect/menuselect] Error 2
16:32.28fileyou had it happen too!
16:32.32blitzrageyep!
16:32.34fileI Fixed it via doing a make distclean
16:32.47blitzragewierd... this is a clean checkout... :)
16:32.48filedid you do a make update, or clean checkout?
16:32.52blitzrageclean
16:33.01fileaha'
16:33.08blitzrageactually... I might have done a ./configure then an update
16:34.11Juggieblitzrage, damin had that problem last night.
16:34.21Juggiehe fixed it by going into menuselect/mxml
16:34.26Juggieand running ./configure
16:36.53filejsmith: what an ugly ugly light
16:38.22jsmithfile: You think so too, eh?
16:38.23jsmithfile: But aren't the cabinets nice?
16:38.23fileyes
16:39.40filehow long till you are able to live in it?
16:43.48jsmith5 or 6 weeks
16:44.19jsmithStill gotta do electricity, propane, generator, porches, flooring, cooling & heating, well, septic tank, etc.
16:44.55blitzrageshooting range
16:45.09blitzragestocked pong
16:45.11blitzragepond*
16:45.25jsmithblitzrage: Did I tell you I took the shotgun out the other morning?
16:45.42blitzrageto shoot groundhogs right?
16:46.16jsmithYup
16:46.42filehrm
16:46.51filethe only New Brunswick based Asterisk company I know of just emailed me
16:47.22jsmithfile: They want you to go to work for them, obviously
16:47.34filethey are in Fredericton
16:47.37jsmithfile: You're too good to be a slave to a US company... that's what they'll tell you.
16:50.27filejsmith: you should work for Telcomjoshleifvoxmartenterprisesinc
16:50.59jsmithI already work for Leif...
16:54.03fileooh, they want to... call me
16:56.15jsmithTell them you'll only accept the call over videophone through Asterisk
16:56.25jsmithIf they can't get video working through Asterisk, they shouldn't be bothering you
16:56.32jsmithSpeaking of which... guess what I've got now!
16:57.32blitzragea videophone? :)
16:58.50jsmithblitzrage: Uh-huh!
16:59.56blitzragewhich one?
16:59.57blitzragelink?
17:00.18blitzragetoo bad my phone doesn't have the camera on the front so it could be a video phone
17:00.39jsmithGrandstream
17:09.50fileI Was just on the phone with Randal... and I came to a stunning conclusion
17:10.06fileTilghman + Randal at AstriDevCon!
17:10.07jsmithThat he knows more about Asterisk now that he's been to my class?
17:10.26jsmithAh... well.... um....
17:11.23fileit's going to be interesting!
17:11.38jsmithIsn't the word I'd choose... but...
17:11.53blitzragethey don't get along?
17:12.01blitzrageor they get along too well... ? :)
17:12.53fileand now their email is playing "rename the tarballs" with my emails
17:13.43jsmithOh, joy!
17:13.56jsmithfile: So, I learned some new things while I was teaching this LumenVox module.
17:14.08jsmithfile: I thought you *had* to specify the grammars in lumenvox.conf
17:14.15filejsmith: it's best if you do
17:14.40jsmithfile: Well, if I have the students load them at runtime, won't they be able to see then and there that the grammar failed
17:14.49jsmith(instead of having to pay attention when Asterisk started)
17:15.17fileyes, it just takes longer... and if you load them locally you have to unload them afterwards or risk a memory leak
17:15.36jsmithRight.
17:15.48jsmithI'm fine with that (for instruction purposes)
17:16.06jsmithI just had a whole class of people asking "Why did the dialplan stop right after I loaded my grammar?"
17:16.30jsmithSo they'd reload the lumenvox module, and see that it couldn't load the grammar.
17:16.38file"this is why you have development machines to experiment on!"
17:17.12jsmithAnd of course, the error message says it couldn't load their grammar, so they'd freak out and think they'd mistyped the filename.
17:17.47fileif you are using a relatively recent it will tell you exactly why
17:17.57filethere's 5 possible errors :D
17:18.22jsmithOh, nice!
17:18.37jsmithThis was the latest version of the connector, but Asterisk 1.4.0
17:18.53filethen your message should have told you exactly why
18:11.49filewow
18:12.11fileChristen butchered my address
18:12.46file"80 Pine Gelnn Road"
18:15.16jsmithSpeaking of butchering... it's time for lunch!
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18:51.08jsmithAlric!
18:51.17jsmithI was just thinking about how you never show up in here anymore
18:52.23fileI'm back!
18:52.25AlricOh yeah?
18:52.27AlricWell
18:52.27fileand I'm clean!
18:52.28fileAND
18:52.32fileI'm wearing shorts
18:52.40AlricWithin the next 40 days I'm graduating, closing on a house and getting married.
18:52.50AlricTimes are a busy!
19:01.58jsmithI have a house now, and in the next 40 days I should be moved in.
19:07.25AlricCool :)
19:48.34Juggieblitzrage, torrents are actually fast for me again
19:54.27Uatec_torrents suck
19:54.29Uatec_usenet ftw
19:55.02filehuzzah
19:55.08fileI think I found this Lumenvox issue
19:57.04Juggieif downloading an iso @ 600kb/s sucks then just call me mr. sucky.
19:57.41Juggiei'm capped @ that :P
19:57.44AlricI mean, ISOs.  Yeah.  Linux ISOs.
19:57.52Juggiei am actually downloading centos5
19:57.54Juggiehonestly.
19:59.29Alric:)
19:59.39AlricHavne't touched that yet.
19:59.53Juggiei started it just to test the torrent speeds
19:59.56Juggiebut i'll let it finish.
20:00.03Juggiei've had no problems with it.
20:00.08Juggieits working ok for me
20:00.26Juggie[root@DONNY-CENTOS ~]# uname -a
20:00.26JuggieLinux DONNY-CENTOS 2.6.18-8.1.1.el5 #1 SMP Mon Apr 9 09:46:54 EDT 2007 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
21:05.21AlricGotta try upgrading a test machine to see how that goes.
21:34.36jsmithblitzrage: Fedex couldn't find your apt?
21:35.02blitzragejsmith: no.... *grumble*
21:35.07blitzragehe went to the wrong building
21:35.16blitzragethen marked it as I wasn't available
21:35.25blitzragethe building is clearly marked as 219
21:35.25jsmithDid you call and complain?
21:35.28blitzrageI did
21:35.34jsmithIf you call and complain, they'll often redeliver it
21:35.44blitzragethey just said they'd send a msg and see if the driver will come back
21:36.29blitzrage[root@miami6 ~]# yum
21:36.29blitzrage-bash: /usr/bin/yum: Input/output error
21:36.30blitzrageeh?
21:36.33blitzragewtf?
21:38.00jsmithNever seen that one before
21:38.05jsmithcd /var/lib/rpm
21:38.15jsmithrm -i __db*
21:38.40jsmithyum check-update
21:39.59Alricdisk full?
21:40.51AlricActually, I have seen that before... on a machine that had a failing HD :)
22:58.41blitzragejsmith: guess my phone isn't coming till tomorrow afternoon...
23:00.14filewhat happened?
23:04.53blitzrageFedEx screwed up and went to the wrong building
23:05.01filebastards
23:05.03blitzrageso I've called like 3 times and made sure they go to the right building
23:05.06blitzragefile: that's what I said
23:05.28blitzragegood thing I work from home and didn't take a day off or something
23:06.46filestabbbbbbbb them
23:27.16blitzrageI wish
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