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00:11.13AlricFunny how your day can go from bad to hellua bad in the blink of an eye.
00:11.19Alricerr, from good to hellua bad :)
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00:51.53AlricThis is a roller coaster.
01:00.29jsmith-awayWhat is?!?
01:00.34AlricThis install
01:00.45Alricafk moving
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02:59.08blitzragewho the heck wants a girl who has no experience?
02:59.13blitzrageI for one, certainly do not
02:59.20blitzragethere's nothing wrong with a girl who likes sex
03:00.19blitzrageI guess I'm really just talkiing to myself and Juggie
03:09.10Juggie:)
03:09.18Juggiethere were no hotties @ the gym today
03:12.23blitzragethat sucks
03:12.32blitzrageI love going ot the gym and oggling
04:12.42Juggieyesterday was a good day
04:12.53Juggiealthough two good looking girls came in as i was leaving today
04:12.59Juggiebut they were probally 18,19
04:13.22Juggiea little young for me, well at least if my friends found out :)
04:17.36blitzrageJuggie: that's the perfect age
04:18.10Juggieshush :)
04:18.41blitzragelol
04:18.51blitzrageat least in looks -- they are stupid as fuck
04:19.03blitzrageif I found a genious 19 y/o... damn :)
04:19.38Juggiein my expirence anything younger then 23 is unstable.
04:21.24blitzragetotally agreed
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15:26.31blitzragejsmith: !!!
15:26.38blitzragecan I ask a stupid question?
15:26.53jsmithThere are no stupid questions...
15:28.11blitzrage...only stupid people :)
15:28.30blitzrageoh I think I just realized my issue...
15:29.44blitzrageI was wondering where Asterisk kept the database structure for members of a queue -- but it's just using the option names as the columns for the table, so it's not "statically" defined anywhere. It just says, "hey, I need the value for member 'foo' and the values for the following options"
15:30.09blitzrageso basically, to see the table structure, I just need to go look at the sample file and find which options there are :)
15:30.16blitzragethanks jsmith! :)
15:30.45jsmithIt's kept in AstDB
15:30.54jsmith'database show QUEUE'
15:32.08blitzragehrmmm... doesn't seem to be
15:32.10blitzrageeven when in a queue
15:32.34jsmithStatic queue members, or dynamic queue members, or agents?
15:32.47blitzragestatic queue members
15:33.15blitzragejust adding them to the ast_queue_members table, with the columns "queue_name", "interface", "penalty"
15:33.27blitzrageI guess that is dynamic right?
15:33.37blitzragewhere static is statically defined in the queue.conf file?
15:34.14jsmithNo.
15:34.35jsmithDynamic is adding them using the manager interface or "AddQueueMember" and "RemoveQueueMember" applications from the dialplan
15:34.41blitzrageaha -- gotcha
15:35.06blitzrageI do have those too in another area where I use the queue for something else
15:35.32blitzragethe reason I ask is because Paul wants to change the table stucture
15:37.30Juggiesounds like your talking about realtime queues?
15:38.19blitzrageindeed
15:38.27Juggierealtime is a monster i dont understand
15:38.38Juggiethat being said, you can add fields to the table
15:38.44Juggieand it wont break anything
15:39.07blitzrageI realize I can add them, but Paul wants to change the columns that Asterisk would actually be using
15:39.25blitzragerealtime isn't really all that bad -- it's reasonably intuitive
15:39.27Juggiechange the names?
15:39.35blitzragecorrect
15:39.40Juggiewhy?
15:39.41blitzrageit's still early :)
15:40.10blitzrageI won't get into it because its not really necessary, but basically its for DB design for the GUI
15:40.20blitzrageso the GUI is easier for him to code
15:40.35Juggiewell, he can do whatever he wants
15:40.38blitzrageso I was wondering if I could maybe change the SELECT statements Asterisk was using
15:40.58Juggieif only it were that easy :)
15:41.14Juggiewhat he could do would be to create a view for * to use which emulates the * table structure.
15:41.46blitzragehe can't "do whatever he wants" because I doubt Asterisk is going to go find which queue is being referenced in the "queue_name" table if there is just the ID number of the queue instead of the queue name in text
15:41.59blitzrageyah... I have a feeling he'll just end up working around it :)
15:42.26Juggieas i said, he can design his queue table in whatever way he desires so long as his view makes it look like the asterisk table.
15:43.39blitzragedamn you views! :)
15:43.48Juggiewell, think of a view like a fake table.
15:43.53blitzrageI know what a view is :)
15:44.03Juggieok then, well then you should understand why that would work just fine :)
15:44.03blitzrageO
15:44.24blitzrageyes, I can alter the view -- I can't just make the table anything I want, which is what you said
15:44.33blitzrageand then you mentioned view, which is different :)
15:44.54Juggieindeed, you can make it what you want, so long as within your view it looks like the old table, all will be good.
15:45.24Juggiehopefully your db of choice supports updating views too
15:45.29Juggieso if * tries to do that it will work
15:45.42blitzrageideally. Not sure if pgsql does that or not to be honest
15:47.05blitzrageok coolio -- thanks Juggie. I'm going to make eggs and hashbrowns now
15:47.24blitzrageI keep seeing these commercials for how eggs give you energy, so I'm gonna give it a shot :)
15:47.33Juggiehaha
15:47.40Juggiehave a bagle and penut butter
15:47.56blitzrageI have no bagels, and I don't like things with just peanut butter
15:48.29Juggiebagles are good for you, and they keep well in the freezer.
15:48.49blitzrageyah, my room mate buys
15:48.53blitzrage...them
15:49.00Juggieand they give you the craps
15:50.08blitzragefiber'll do that
15:50.11blitzrageok, back in a bit
15:50.17blitzragetime to go watch sportscentre
15:50.28blitzrageand food of course
15:50.32Juggiethe leafs suck as bad as they did last week :(
15:53.51jsmithblitzrage: Sorry, I wasn't ignoring you -- just had a couple of high-priority things I had to take care of :-(
15:58.08blitzragejsmith: totally understood
16:07.52jsmithJuggie: You haven't undergone your sensitivity training yet... let alone learned how to spell it ;-)
16:09.04Juggieummm, thats a canadian spelling :P
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16:19.35AlricHey
16:19.54AlricAnyone know how to override the Polycom's insistance on resetting the volume to its default level for each call?
16:19.56jsmithHey Alric!
16:20.06jsmithNo clue...
16:20.07AlricI know I've seen how to do it somehow...
16:20.11jsmithDid you look in the Admin guide?
16:20.40AlricDon't have one handy
16:20.51Alrichrm
16:20.53Alricthis is really strange.
16:21.54AlricA script I made to bring the pagers into their own conference rooms is running even when I tell it not to.
16:21.56AlricVery strange.
16:23.19jsmith<PROTECTED>
16:23.19jsmithdefault configuration parameters, the receive handset/headset volume resets to nomi-
16:23.19jsmithnal after each call to comply with regulatory requirements. Refer to 4.6.1.8.2 Volume
16:23.19jsmithPersistence <volume/> on page 110.
16:24.19AlricYeah, grabbing the admin guide too.
16:26.06Alricargh
16:26.06AlricTransitioning from a key system to a PBX is always such a hassle.
16:26.06jsmithvoice.volume.persist.handset
16:26.22jsmithvoice.volume.persist.headset
16:26.32AlricCool cool
16:26.58jsmithvoice.volume.persist.handsfree
16:28.18AlricGot employees harassing me to pick up "line 3"
16:28.18AlricThey want SLA.
16:28.19jsmithIt's coming...
16:28.19jsmith... very soon now...
16:28.19AlricExcept 1.4 doesn't work for me.
16:28.19AlricSo it doesn't matter anyway.
16:28.19jsmithYes... it's being rewritten
16:28.19jsmithIt'll be in 1.4.1
16:28.19AlricI can't imagine my audio problem will get fixed by 1.4.1
16:30.35jsmithNot until you can really show us the problem, no
16:30.54AlricI have full console debugs + ethereal traces.
16:30.57AlricBut only from my end.
16:31.01AlricI can't really get the other end.
17:05.53blitzragejsmith: another dumb question :)
17:06.02jsmithYes?!?
17:06.07blitzragethe msgnum column in the voicemessages table -- what is that for?
17:06.23blitzragebecause I see two msg's set as '0', which seems to indicate "read"
17:06.37blitzragebut if I switch the other two messages to 0 manually, my MWI doesn't go away..
17:06.38jsmithInteresting...
17:06.53jsmithWell, if they're still in the INBOX, the MWI won't go out
17:07.00jsmithYou have to move them to OLD
17:07.00blitzrageaha -- you're right
17:07.11blitzrageaha!!!
17:07.16blitzragethat is why I have two msg 0's
17:07.18jsmithbut I don't see why you'd have two of them set the msg 0
17:07.22blitzrageone is in Old, the other in INBOX
17:07.25jsmithOh.
17:07.29jsmithThen it's perfectly valid
17:07.31blitzrageso good -- no bug found! :)
17:07.33jsmithThe first message is 0
17:07.34blitzrageyep, you're right
17:07.35jsmithThe second is 1
17:07.37jsmithetc
17:07.38blitzrageI didn't see the dir column
17:07.52*** kick/#asterisk-doc [Alric!n=blitzrag@asterisk/documenteur-extraordinaire/blitzrage] by blitzrage (I still have ops suckah! :))
17:08.14blitzrageoh nice -- my rogers box just went down..
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17:08.28AlricYou mean "You still can powertrip"!
17:08.37blitzrageyes I can
17:08.53blitzrageyep -- that's what it looks like :)
17:09.46blitzragethey upgraded the FFWD the other day -- gave me a fourth speed so it doesn't take 3 minutes to FFWD to the end of a 30 minute show
17:09.51Alricline appearances, whatever
17:19.38Alricgosub() looks like goto to me.,
17:19.51AlricDoesn't have a built-in method of passing variables!
17:19.52blitzrageit is, but with a return
17:20.03blitzrageyes it does if you grab the app_stack from svncommunity
17:20.08Alricno no
17:20.14Alricpassing variables to it
17:20.15blitzrageyes it does -- I'm using it
17:20.16Alricnot getting them out
17:20.22blitzrageARGx is what you're talking about
17:20.25blitzrageadn yes, I'm doing that
17:20.26AlricARGs, yeah.
17:20.30Alricwith app_stack?
17:20.32blitzrageyes
17:20.35Alricoh
17:20.35blitzragefrom svncommunity
17:20.45AlricWhat the heck is svncommunity?
17:20.52blitzrageMacro(Macro(func_odbc())) == segfault
17:21.03AlricI don't stack Macros...NEXT!
17:21.05blitzrageGoSub(GoSub(GoSub(func_odbc)))) != segfault
17:21.24blitzragehttp://svncommunity.digium.com/view
17:21.38blitzrageI use both app_stack and func_odbc from there on 1.2
17:21.42blitzrage(and 1.4)
17:22.06Alricfunc_odbc isn't in 1.2?
17:22.23*** topic/#asterisk-doc by blitzrage -> Happy Asterisk 1.4.0! Without risk, we would never know the core learning of our mistakes.
17:22.36blitzragedon't think so
17:22.37AlricInspirational.
17:22.48blitzrageand not with DB failover
17:22.52blitzragenot even in 1.4
17:23.14Alricstrange.
17:23.25blitzragebecause it was made after feature freeze
17:23.27Alricdangit
17:23.27AlricI want 1.4
17:23.31blitzrageyou have it
17:23.35blitzrageit's call svn
17:23.39AlricI don't have functional 1.4 :(
17:31.07AlricThe problem is...
17:31.22AlricThey just say "if 1.2 works and 1.4 doesn't, its a PBX problem.  you fix it"
18:00.57blitzragethis laptop power brick is keeping my right foot warm :)
18:01.56Alrichehe
18:02.16Alricgotta go
18:56.07Alric-OfceAhem, I do.
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21:42.23Alric-OfceNoo
21:42.28Alric-OfceDon't leave us!
21:42.47jsmithGotta take the scouts camping (in the cold)
21:42.50jsmithBack tomorrow
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