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| 18:56.32 | jsmith | blitzrage: I've got some AstriCon feedback for ya :-) |
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| 18:59.04 | Alric | Ugh. |
| 18:59.11 | Alric | On-call got added to my job :( |
| 18:59.53 | jsmith | Woo hoo! |
| 18:59.57 | jsmith | Just got taken off of mine! |
| 18:59.57 | Alric | Yeah. |
| 19:00.05 | Alric | So now I've gotta figure out wtf to do when I'm in class. |
| 19:00.22 | jsmith | Uh, yuck. |
| 19:00.28 | Alric | Yeah. |
| 19:00.29 | jsmith | You're on call while you're in class. |
| 19:00.32 | Alric | Yep. |
| 19:00.35 | jsmith | Double yuck. |
| 19:00.38 | Alric | Thursday till Thursday |
| 19:00.39 | jsmith | I'd quit :-) |
| 19:01.15 | Alric | I try to pick and choose the battles I escalate... I've never actually escalated something like this before. |
| 19:01.34 | Alric | You know, so when the important ones come around, I'm 110% more likely to win those :) |
| 19:02.39 | jsmith | Yeah, I'd escalate. |
| 19:05.32 | jsmith | DarkFlibble: Welcome back then... |
| 19:05.41 | DarkFlibble | thank jarad |
| 19:06.00 | jsmith | I know that I should know who you are -- but my memory is failing me... |
| 19:06.08 | DarkFlibble | the project has moved quite a lot since I left... |
| 19:06.20 | jsmith | Uh, yeah... things are just a little different now. |
| 19:06.26 | jsmith | Well, with the book and all.. |
| 19:06.29 | DarkFlibble | my name used to be on one copy of the docs... |
| 19:06.35 | DarkFlibble | mike preston |
| 19:06.40 | jsmith | Oh, that's right... |
| 19:06.46 | DarkFlibble | but that was a long time back |
| 19:06.51 | jsmith | Yeah, it's been a little while. |
| 19:07.00 | DarkFlibble | 2 years at a quick guess |
| 19:07.16 | DarkFlibble | leif probably remembers me better |
| 19:07.19 | jsmith | Yeah, probably just over two years... |
| 19:07.25 | DarkFlibble | he did my first dial plan... |
| 19:07.46 | DarkFlibble | back when I was still a newbie |
| 19:07.51 | Alric | And I don't have any idea who you are :) |
| 19:08.37 | DarkFlibble | Alric, I tend to blend into the shadows well... |
| 19:08.39 | DarkFlibble | :P |
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| 19:19.24 | blitzrage | DarkFlibble: Mike -- what company are you with again... ? |
| 19:19.42 | DarkFlibble | now? none... |
| 19:19.45 | blitzrage | I recognize the name... but I can't place my finger on the name :) |
| 19:20.03 | DarkFlibble | blitzrage, custom dial plan... uk based... |
| 19:20.31 | DarkFlibble | it was a personal asterisk box... |
| 19:20.40 | blitzrage | gotcha... I totally know the name, but my memory sucks :) |
| 19:20.42 | blitzrage | welcome back! :) |
| 19:20.45 | DarkFlibble | thnx |
| 19:21.15 | blitzrage | jsmith-lunch: comments rock :) |
| 19:21.46 | DarkFlibble | been getting my home network back up... and installed asterisk yesterday... |
| 19:21.55 | blitzrage | nice! |
| 19:21.59 | DarkFlibble | its changed sooo much |
| 19:22.02 | blitzrage | I'm in class helping the students |
| 19:22.12 | blitzrage | DarkFlibble: oh yah... 1.2.x is sooooo much different |
| 19:22.18 | blitzrage | its like a brand new Asterisk :) |
| 19:22.19 | DarkFlibble | most of the old dialplans I had (based on your example) didn't work anymore |
| 19:22.28 | blitzrage | DarkFlibble: I wouldn't doubt that... |
| 19:22.36 | blitzrage | the new dialplan logic can be much more complicated |
| 19:22.44 | DarkFlibble | it barfed on timeouts... |
| 19:22.47 | blitzrage | doesn't have to be... but can be |
| 19:22.51 | DarkFlibble | okay... I'll noop it... |
| 19:23.00 | DarkFlibble | then it barfed on DBget... |
| 19:23.04 | blitzrage | exten => t,1,NoOp(timeout!) should work |
| 19:23.09 | DarkFlibble | so I noop'd that... |
| 19:23.17 | blitzrage | haha... DBget has been replaced with a function |
| 19:23.23 | DarkFlibble | then I just rewrote the dialplan |
| 19:23.30 | DarkFlibble | yeah |
| 19:23.32 | DarkFlibble | DB |
| 19:23.39 | blitzrage | exten => Set(MYVAR=${DB(family/key)}) |
| 19:23.44 | blitzrage | oops |
| 19:24.02 | blitzrage | exten => 1000,1,Set(MYVAR=${DB(family/key)}) |
| 19:24.20 | DarkFlibble | It actually didn't feel like I'd been away that long... working abroad and all that... |
| 19:24.39 | DarkFlibble | yeah... thats roughly what i've got now leif |
| 19:24.56 | blitzrage | nice |
| 19:25.46 | DarkFlibble | started reading the book this morning... |
| 19:25.50 | DarkFlibble | I'm impressed |
| 19:26.27 | DarkFlibble | its a real contrast to most of the others out there... |
| 19:40.49 | blitzrage | awesome! glad to hear it |
| 19:40.56 | blitzrage | feel free to write a positive review on amazon.com :) |
| 19:41.24 | DarkFlibble | I might just do that |
| 19:42.46 | Alric | Cause Leif wants his royalties! |
| 19:42.54 | Alric | Think of the poor, starving Canadians! |
| 19:43.17 | Alric | Don't do it for Leif, do it for the kids. |
| 19:43.35 | blitzrage | reviews don't pay me royalties ;) |
| 19:43.43 | blitzrage | but I do like to see that people are enjoying the book |
| 19:44.03 | DarkFlibble | I could always just send you a pound by paypal... that must be worth millions in canadian dollars.... |
| 19:44.05 | DarkFlibble | :P |
| 19:44.10 | Alric | Leif, leif, leif. Must I explain this in detail? Okay. Positive reviews = more potential buyers = more potential sales = more potential royalties. |
| 19:46.49 | DarkFlibble | a long time ago... |
| 19:49.01 | blitzrage | Alric: I suppose you're right... but when you get paid pennies per book, you hardly care about that :) |
| 19:49.13 | Alric | pennies? |
| 19:49.16 | Alric | I thought it was a full dollar. |
| 19:49.46 | DarkFlibble | if its a canadian dollar then it would be pennies... :P |
| 19:50.21 | blitzrage | DarkFlibble: not true -- the USD sucks compared to the CAD -- only 15% difference. |
| 19:50.41 | blitzrage | I wish people would actually look at the conversion amount before using that joke :) |
| 19:51.08 | DarkFlibble | compared to sterling most stuff is pretty low |
| 19:51.15 | blitzrage | Alric: full dollar if purchased at retail -- which hardly happens. Amazon is like 50% off the MSRP |
| 19:52.28 | DarkFlibble | most of my oreilly books have been bought for £2.99 surplus... |
| 19:52.37 | DarkFlibble | doubt if the author gets much then |
| 19:56.20 | DarkFlibble | http://gateway.technomonk.com/images/DSCI0001-small.JPG <-- taken last year... it grown since then |
| 19:56.39 | DarkFlibble | almost doubled |
| 20:00.33 | blitzrage | DarkFlibble: by the time you buy the book for that price, the author had probably already been paid |
| 20:00.57 | DarkFlibble | maybe... but many of them are only a year old... |
| 20:00.59 | blitzrage | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.06 | DarkFlibble | ahhh... |
| 20:01.24 | DarkFlibble | so the author would have been paid when the book store didn't send it back |
| 20:01.29 | DarkFlibble | gotcha |
| 20:01.58 | blitzrage | yah, exactly |
| 20:02.28 | blitzrage | we actually only get paid on what O'Reilly makes off the book, so when you buy it from Amazon for $20, O'Reilly would have sold it to them for less than that -- and that is what we make the commision off of :) |
| 20:02.37 | blitzrage | so you can imagine that we don't make much -- but we never did it to get rich |
| 20:03.45 | DarkFlibble | if they sell 20,000 books you are only likely to get 1,000... so it'd need to be a pretty popular book.... |
| 20:03.56 | blitzrage | DarkFlibble: yah.. .something like that |
| 20:09.40 | Alric | Ugh. |
| 20:09.45 | Alric | This is going to be a maintenance PITA |
| 20:11.10 | DarkFlibble | based on oreilly's other book sales I would probably guess the circulation of this boot would be in the 80,000 ball park... |
| 20:11.40 | DarkFlibble | still not a lot of comission |
| 20:13.26 | Alric | better than nothing! |
| 20:13.32 | DarkFlibble | yeah |
| 20:13.59 | DarkFlibble | I'd guess the social elevation would be enough payment on its own... |
| 20:14.02 | DarkFlibble | :P |
| 20:14.29 | DarkFlibble | ..since its lonely being a geek... |
| 20:15.32 | DarkFlibble | anyway... to finish correcting this work for the morning... |
| 20:15.37 | DarkFlibble | so bbl |
| 20:27.16 | blitzrage | lates |
| 20:38.33 | blitzrage | jsmith: wb! |
| 20:38.48 | jsmith | blitzrage! |
| 20:39.06 | blitzrage | ooooo... nap time |
| 20:40.28 | jsmith | No, not until I start my new job :-) |
| 20:40.42 | blitzrage | lol |
| 20:43.29 | Alric | New employee smokes and uses Trillian, sound on, and is going back and forth with someone :P |
| 20:43.46 | jsmith | Alric: Yell. Now. Otherwise, it'll only get worse. |
| 20:44.31 | blitzrage | yah -- you have to put a stop to that right away |
| 20:44.34 | blitzrage | you can be nice about it thoguh :) |
| 20:44.58 | blitzrage | "excuse me, would you mind turning off the sound on your IM client? Its distracting" |
| 21:01.06 | Alric | ugh. |
| 21:01.15 | Alric | gotta go test something, it'll sever my network connection. |
| 21:01.16 | Alric | brb. |
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| 21:48.59 | jsmith | http://radar.oreilly.com/archives/2006/01/voip_handset_on_sale_in_uk_sup.html |
| 21:49.14 | *** topic/#asterisk-doc by jsmith -> http://www.asteriskdocs.org || Asterisk: The Future of Telephony published by O'Reilly Media -- http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/asterisk/ -- neary 10,000 copies sold! |
| 21:55.31 | blitzrage | jsmith: how did you find that out? :) |
| 21:56.37 | blitzrage | oh nice! |
| 21:56.43 | blitzrage | I see it in the link there :) |
| 22:00.13 | Alric | Grrr. |
| 22:03.13 | jsmith | blitzrage: Yeah, came as a shock to me :-) |
| 22:03.22 | jsmith | blitzrage: I guess that means Tim owes us dinner in SFO, right?!? |
| 22:04.17 | blitzrage | jsmith: did you not get the invite? A bunch of us are going out on Thursday nigth with Mike -- you're invited |
| 22:04.38 | jsmith | blitzrage: Yeah, I just got an invite from Mike. |
| 22:04.43 | blitzrage | gotcha |
| 22:04.46 | blitzrage | ok cool |
| 22:04.55 | blitzrage | guess Tim owes us food too :) |
| 22:04.58 | jsmith | blitzrage: But it was like "Oh, Jim and Leif and Surj and Nat and I are going out to dinner --- I guess you can tag along if you want" |
| 22:05.16 | jsmith | blitzrage: It was like "Oh, yeah... I guess we can drag Jared along too..." |
| 22:05.38 | blitzrage | nah, wasn't like that at all. Mike just didn't know you were going to Etel |
| 22:05.48 | jsmith | blitzrage: But I did accept the invitation, and asked Surj if there was anything I could help out with. |
| 22:06.14 | jsmith | blitzrage: I told Mike a week ago that I was going... I guess he's just too busy editing "Head First" books to keep the details straight. |
| 22:06.54 | blitzrage | yah, I imagine so |
| 22:07.03 | blitzrage | he really hasn't been that good at remembering everything :) |
| 22:10.37 | jsmith | True, that... |
| 22:41.46 | jsmith | About? To whom? |
| 22:48.54 | blitzrage | jsmith: you were included ;) |
| 22:49.18 | jsmith | blitzrage: Just skimmed it. |
| 22:49.29 | jsmith | blitzrage: But dang you --- now you got me wanting to write, and I don't have time. |
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| 22:55.10 | jsmith | Hello Mats |
| 22:55.21 | jsmith | MatsK: How is Sweden treating you? |
| 22:56.07 | MatsK | Good, have started the new project Asterisk4SoHo, and how is USA for jsmith ? |
| 22:56.27 | jsmith | MatsK: It's snowing like mad, so I'm happy. |
| 22:56.43 | jsmith | MatsK: I had over 5 inches of new snow this morning, and it's been snowing all day |
| 22:56.49 | jsmith | MatsK: Link to the project? |
| 22:57.00 | MatsK | asterisk4soho.sf.net |
| 22:57.09 | MatsK | but its not mutch there yet |
| 22:57.50 | Alric | Snow! |
| 22:58.03 | jsmith | Alric: Yes! |
| 22:58.08 | Alric | I want snow! |
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| 22:58.56 | jsmith | Sure... get kicked for flooding, without anything even showing up! |
| 22:59.16 | jsmith | http://asterisk.pastebin.com/ |
| 23:01.27 | MatsK | There is a lot of snow here Aleric, so just go north and you will find it ;-) |
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| 23:25.27 | Alric | Whee. Dell PowerConnect! |
| 23:25.42 | Alric | Its unmanaged, but it does QoS. Explain that to me please? :) |
| 23:28.28 | jsmith | Yeah, right... |
| 23:28.58 | Alric | Honors IEE 802.1p values. |
| 23:28.59 | Alric | Hmm |
| 23:31.46 | jsmith | Oh, so it respects the ToS bits, but you can't change what it gives priority to. |
| 23:32.33 | Alric | I guess. |
| 23:33.04 | Alric | Its like one of those sales pitches "Oh, just enable QoS and you don't have to worry about it..." |
| 23:33.12 | Alric | With little idea of how thats actually accomplished :) |
| 23:33.33 | jsmith | Yup. |
| 23:33.43 | jsmith | Why not just buy a cheap DLink managed switch, and call it good? |
| 23:33.49 | Alric | Yeah! |
| 23:34.05 | Alric | Better yet, Linksys. |
| 23:34.53 | MatsK | I like SMC, have the power built in the switch |
| 23:35.13 | Alric | Heard 1.2.2 got released. |
| 23:35.23 | MatsK | yep, yesterday |
| 23:35.35 | Alric | I have a Catalyst 3524 poe thats pretty cool. |
| 23:35.41 | Alric | Its like overkill though. |
| 23:36.35 | MatsK | poe is nice but few that has it yet |
| 23:45.54 | blitzrage | Alric: sheesh... that was soooooooooooooooooo yesterday |
| 23:47.04 | Alric | What was? |
| 23:47.08 | Alric | 3524? |
| 23:47.49 | blitzrage | 1.2.2 |
| 23:47.53 | blitzrage | try and keep up |
| 23:47.54 | blitzrage | :) |
| 23:47.54 | Alric | Oh. |
| 23:49.37 | Alric | We'll make it the 51st state above Michigan. |
| 23:53.36 | jsmith | Alric: No, Alberta is the one with the oil |
| 23:53.44 | jsmith | Alric: (Too bad it's all locked up in tar sands) |
| 23:54.14 | jsmith | Alric: Besides, Iraq already has dibs on becoming New Texas, so Alberta would have to settle for New Oklahoma |
| 23:54.20 | Alric | Yes, but Ontario has their capital, right? |
| 23:54.35 | Alric | Take the head, the body follows. |
| 23:55.00 | blitzrage | Alberta hates Ontario |
| 23:56.33 | Alric | So? |
| 23:56.36 | Alric | Alberta likes the US. |
| 23:56.44 | Alric | So we'll just pick up both of them. |
