| 03:01.53 | jfred[m] | Ugh, I hate that so many devices now feel the need to advertise at you and force logins to network services |
| 03:01.56 | jfred[m] | it's insufferable |
| 03:02.30 | jfred[m] | makes me really appreciate the free software community, but also makes me sad for all those niche markets where free software hasn't taken hold |
| 03:02.51 | jfred[m] | well, I suppose ebook readers aren't really a niche anymore, heh |
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| 05:25.04 | TorC | jfred[m]: Time to think about an EOMA68 driven ebook reader, is it? I'd like that (well, more like a tablet format computer with full USB host capabilities including a few ports), preferably with a power draw <1W. |
| 05:25.54 | jfred[m] | yeah - it'd be nice with a keyboard attachment too, so you could use it like a very low-power e-ink laptop |
| 05:26.18 | jfred[m] | I hear the displays are really hard to get though |
| 05:27.46 | TorC | That's about what I would hope for. |
| 05:28.10 | TorC | I've done some reading, but I don't have the electronics-fu to put it together. |
| 05:28.40 | TorC | From what I've read, they're not quite so hard to source as they were a couple years ago. |
| 05:34.26 | TorC | Here's one screen http://www.good-display.com/products_detail/productId=325.html . IIUC, these guys sell e-paper tags/billboards, so the controller may be "corruptible" to our purposes. I could be misremembering which source was who, though. |
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| 05:37.01 | TorC | I'd earlier wanted about 10", though I'm now kind of thinking a 13.3" or so might be nice, because it could be easily turned into a music viewer to play with if the refresh isn't too slow. |
| 05:37.12 | TorC | It's a bit bulkier to carry, though. |
| 05:37.27 | TorC | I also want Emacs running on such a display. |
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| 08:31.33 | ericxdu | TorC: I'd love an EOMA68 e-reader |
| 08:31.46 | ericxdu | Or a multi-purpose device that's similar |
| 08:32.04 | ericxdu | The e-ink screen seems to be a massive power-saver |
| 08:33.38 | C-Keen | it is also massively expensive still and highly proprietary |
| 08:35.12 | ericxdu | One can dream |
| 08:35.40 | ericxdu | It seems very new, so maybe in a few years |
| 08:36.01 | ericxdu | In the meantime: an EOMA68 tablet would be *quite* nice |
| 08:39.08 | C-Keen | indeed |
| 09:04.26 | TorC | ericxdu: I agree - though if I want to use it as a music reader as well, then the ability for it to be legible under bright lights would be worth something. The multi-purpose device is the direction I'd prefer to go, though I think I'd rather forgo the touchscreen for anti-glare. |
| 09:05.15 | TorC | C-Keen: It is still on the proprietary side for now, though it seems there is (finally) some competition coming in. |
| 09:05.58 | TorC | From my reading, the basic technology was devised and patented in the mid-90s, so I think there may be some hope for something soon. |
| 09:06.13 | C-Keen | TorC: patents must die |
| 09:06.54 | TorC | Yep. I think e-paper may have missed the chance to go big because it was locked up by patents during the critical window. |
| 09:07.14 | TorC | Now all that's left is to play catch-up with the power savings. |
| 09:07.42 | TorC | The mostly static display front is where that's taking hold now, from my reading. |
| 09:10.03 | ericxdu | TorC: before touch screens devices has trackballs and trackpads which seem to not be terrible |
| 09:10.17 | ericxdu | The trackpad/clicker on my Blackberry Curve at least was nice |
| 09:12.32 | TorC | ericxdu: There is also the trackpoint. Just a little nub and a couple buttons |
| 09:13.40 | TorC | It will be a bit, but the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard is coming out soon, and hopefully at the end of June there will be all three pointing device options as add-on modules for it. |
| 09:14.31 | TorC | I have in my mind that keyboard, and EOMA68, and an e-paper display as a rather nice little combo. |
| 09:15.21 | TorC | Might look a bit hackish, but the elegant implementation can be left for later. I want what I want now! :) |
| 09:16.38 | ericxdu | Does sound like a nice project |
| 09:18.54 | TorC | Unfortunately, if I'm to do it, I need the display already interfaced to a standard display input. From my reading that interface might consume more power than I'd like. |
| 09:18.59 | TorC | I might be able to follow in someone's footsteps, though. |
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