| 00:05.32 | arossdotme-planb | come on lets see 101% heh |
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| 01:42.02 | jfred[m] | Woooo watching those numbers go up! :D |
| 01:46.17 | jfred[m] | I'm ashamed to say that I wasn't sure the campaign would get this far, but I'm glad I was wrong :) |
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| 01:57.43 | curtis22 | 100% :) |
| 01:57.47 | mozzwald | yay! |
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| 02:27.16 | damo22 | hooray |
| 02:40.28 | jfred[m] | Heck yeah! :D |
| 02:45.15 | lkcl | yippee! |
| 02:48.14 | ericxdu | Wooooo! |
| 02:48.43 | MistahDarcy | :) |
| 02:50.39 | MistahDarcy | Now we just gotta wait 'til the end of March. |
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| 16:05.16 | *** topic/#arm-netbook is arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY - http://rhombus-tech.net |
| 16:35.27 | lkcl | adrianlang: get the cable kit, it contains the micro-hdmi and special OTG-Host-Power cable |
| 16:40.38 | arossdotme-planb | fitzsim, i expect so, its part of the hdmi standard |
| 16:41.04 | arossdotme-planb | yea i remmber a20 does audio over hdmi |
| 16:41.34 | fitzsim | ok, one of the update videos -- gcompris, I think -- had no audio in the games |
| 16:41.53 | arossdotme-planb | that was for different reasons i believe |
| 16:42.23 | fitzsim | and I also saw mentions of USB audio dongles for audio elsewhere |
| 16:42.51 | arossdotme-planb | might be audio related software needs to be worked on maybe or that for gcompris audio related stuff needed working or or compiling |
| 16:43.16 | fitzsim | yeah, that's what I was wondering, where the limitation was |
| 16:44.13 | fitzsim | I'm wondering if a "card & cables" EOMA-68 connected via HDMI to a TV will have audio output for these gcompris games |
| 16:44.31 | arossdotme-planb | yea if the eoma-68 card does not have hdmi on the side which is a optinoal extra -only extra connections on the outer edge of the card are optional- the eoma-68 standard and those 68 pins on the eoma-68 connector are not optional btw |
| 16:45.18 | arossdotme-planb | i expect so, providing the software is sorted out, which i expect it will be at some point, its another thing on lukes todo list ;) |
| 16:46.01 | fitzsim | ah, ok -- glad to hear it's just a "simple matter of coding" |
| 16:46.33 | arossdotme-planb | so devices can do audio via usb audio or for a simper option i think the arduino-like thingy chip can do basic audio out. |
| 16:46.41 | arossdotme-planb | too |
| 16:47.12 | arossdotme-planb | usb audio has the advantage of its plug and plug/just works :) |
| 16:48.01 | fitzsim | yeah, but then you need a powered hub and extra speaker/headphone wires |
| 16:48.13 | fitzsim | but yeah, understood that there's lots of flexibility here |
| 16:48.42 | arossdotme-planb | (providing its usb audio class compliant which some pro stuff is not, but newer stuff i think is going the way of class compliant) |
| 16:48.53 | arossdotme-planb | i belive the laptop has audio built in |
| 16:49.25 | arossdotme-planb | the micro desktop doesnt, more basic in that regards |
| 16:49.46 | arossdotme-planb | maybe a little desktop in the future can have usb 7.1 built in :) |
| 16:50.27 | arossdotme-planb | like a what i like to call a mox -Media bOX- |
| 16:51.33 | fitzsim | yeah, that'd be nice; I like the "mini desktop" idea; I think I would miss integrated audio on the micro desktop |
| 16:52.11 | arossdotme-planb | so yea if your using a device, like the micro desktop or using the card standlone and if the card doesnt have micro hdmi like the a20 card then usb audio would be the easiest way to go |
| 16:52.24 | arossdotme-planb | micro desktop was something to get started with |
| 16:53.24 | arossdotme-planb | when ive thought about audio, ive realised that its not so simple cus do you add stero with or with-out mic? 5.1 or 7.1? which chip? audiophile level or cheap? |
| 16:53.40 | fitzsim | oh, completely agree |
| 16:53.59 | fitzsim | audio is insanely complicated, even though at first thought, it seems simple |
| 16:54.29 | fitzsim | I remember fixing a routing issue on my laptop and digging through alsa configuration -- it's amazingly detailed |
| 16:54.40 | arossdotme-planb | so i can see the attachion for why the micro desktop is as it is. sorry, ive pondered about audio decisions too, first time im sharing my ponders :) |
| 16:55.01 | arossdotme-planb | attachion=attraction |
| 16:55.11 | fitzsim | BTW, EOMA-68 == EOMA-68-A20 ? |
| 16:55.22 | fitzsim | or EOMA-68 is the form factor? |
| 16:55.32 | arossdotme-planb | yes 2rd option |
| 16:55.39 | fitzsim | is there a standard short handle for the A20 EOMA-28? |
| 16:55.44 | fitzsim | er, 68 |
| 16:55.46 | arossdotme-planb | http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 |
| 16:55.56 | arossdotme-planb | thats the spec of the stanard |
| 16:56.00 | arossdotme-planb | standard |
| 16:56.37 | arossdotme-planb | so EOMA-68-A20 is a eoma-68 compliant card feature the all winner a20 SOC/cpu/brain |
| 16:57.33 | arossdotme-planb | makes sense? me thinks this might have not been made as clear as maybe it should have been :) in the marketing |
| 16:58.01 | fitzsim | yeah, that makes sense |
| 16:58.07 | fitzsim | it didn't matter to me; I funded 4 :-) |
| 16:58.28 | fitzsim | EOMA-68-A20 is fine |
| 16:58.50 | fitzsim | I think the general name got across the concept of creating a sustainable platform and ecosystem |
| 16:58.56 | arossdotme-planb | made sense to me but then ive followed the project from near the beginning so i have to wonder how/what new people see it/understand it |
| 16:59.07 | arossdotme-planb | arr good |
| 16:59.48 | arossdotme-planb | wow funded 4, more than me :) heh |
| 17:00.31 | arossdotme-planb | hmm mini desktop could be called a slang name of Mini âD hehe |
| 17:01.26 | arossdotme-planb | fitzsim, i started a list of goodies to go with peoples eoma-68 cards: https://public.pad.fsfe.org/p/rhombus-tech_accessories-list |
| 17:01.42 | arossdotme-planb | mainly got usb audio stuff atm |
| 17:02.51 | fitzsim | nice |
| 17:03.02 | arossdotme-planb | feel free to add to it :) |
| 17:22.25 | mozzwald | arossdotme-planb: we should make a replacement zipit eoma pcb |
| 17:29.49 | mozzwald | hm, except prolly cant get the lcd connector unless you buy bulk from manuf :( |
| 17:46.59 | lkcl | fitzsim: cool! |
| 17:48.59 | lkcl | mozzwald: i found a supplier willing to hand-make the cable for $20 each roughly they'd like me to make an order for minimum 100, ideally. i'll get some spares |
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| 17:51.01 | SPG | Luke Leighton master 2765b6b source Merge branch 'master' of ssh://free.hands.com/source * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=2765b6b |
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| 18:00.12 | Tsutsukakushi | lkcl: gz on the successful campaign |
| 18:00.48 | Tsutsukakushi | lkcl: one idea for a device that could be of interest to people is a dragonbox pyra style minilaptop |
| 18:00.53 | Tsutsukakushi | or microlaptop |
| 18:01.45 | Tsutsukakushi | oh |
| 18:01.50 | Tsutsukakushi | you're already planning that :o |
| 18:02.00 | Tsutsukakushi | or at least thinking |
| 18:02.01 | Tsutsukakushi | cool |
| 18:02.43 | arossdotme-planb | mozzwald, yea |
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| 18:05.51 | Tsutsukakushi | Bad cert ident from rhombus-tech.net: dNSName=hands.com www.hands.com : accept? (y/n) |
| 18:05.51 | Tsutsukakushi | :/ |
| 18:11.20 | Gamayun | Tsutsukakushi: I guess the SSL setup needs fixed... |
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| 18:12.51 | Gamayun | I believe it is the same server though... |
| 18:13.02 | Tsutsukakushi | yeah |
| 18:13.04 | Tsutsukakushi | but |
| 18:13.07 | Tsutsukakushi | that shouldn't be too hard |
| 18:13.41 | Tsutsukakushi | hosting multiple sites on same machine is pretty easy with nginx or apache |
| 18:15.07 | Tsutsukakushi | some kind of groupbuy of the microdesktops would be nice |
| 18:15.49 | Tsutsukakushi | sorry, i mean micro engineering boards |
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| 18:17.21 | Gamayun | Tsutsukakushi: Which ones? |
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| 18:24.21 | Tsutsukakushi | the site won't load |
| 18:24.24 | Tsutsukakushi | so can't find you a link |
| 18:24.27 | Tsutsukakushi | oh |
| 18:24.29 | Tsutsukakushi | now it loaded |
| 18:24.31 | Tsutsukakushi | took a while |
| 18:25.21 | Tsutsukakushi | http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/micro_engineering_board/ |
| 18:25.22 | Tsutsukakushi | this |
| 18:39.33 | arossdotme-planb | mozzwald, theres a discussion on the mailing list |
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| 19:05.22 | arossdotme-planb | lkcl, was there a post where you mention your initial motivations for starting the project and creating eoma-68? its deep in the mail list archive ant it? |
| 19:13.39 | Gamayun | Tsutsukakushi: Ah, right, yes :) |
| 19:15.03 | Tsutsukakushi | i was asking lkcl about such thing quite a few times... |
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| 19:25.14 | arossdotme-planb | i think it was not under a thread title. it was mixxed into replys to other stuff |
| 19:25.34 | arossdotme-planb | time to become a historian hay? :) |
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| 21:22.33 | mozzwald | lkcl: zipit specific cable? probably easier to incorporate same FPC on the replacement zipit/eoma mainboard. idea is to swap zipit z2 mainboard with a new one that has power/ports/keypad and 3d print new bottom shell. keep the rest of zipit same if possible |
| 21:23.43 | mozzwald | arossdotme-planb: i see a new discussion. is that the one? or is there some older zipit related one? |
| 21:24.27 | arossdotme-planb | mozzwald, yes |
| 21:24.36 | arossdotme-planb | no older one to my knowlage |
| 21:24.43 | arossdotme-planb | *knowledge |
| 21:25.07 | mozzwald | ok. I thought you'd be pushing a zipit eoma alreayd :D |
| 21:25.22 | arossdotme-planb | heh add a wiki page for it |
| 21:25.30 | arossdotme-planb | under community ideas |
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| 21:25.52 | mozzwald | it probably doesn't make sense anyway tho. can't really get them anymore |
| 21:26.25 | arossdotme-planb | eoma-68 cards are longer than the zipit eoma-cf would fit in the zipit sized square. eoma-68 i guess means having a extra wide or long zipit bottom case |
| 21:26.43 | mozzwald | i just want a upgraded zipit |
| 21:26.44 | arossdotme-planb | idk how much longer they are than the zipit |
| 21:26.47 | arossdotme-planb | so do i |
| 21:26.47 | mozzwald | or similar |
| 21:27.13 | lkcl | arossdotme-planb: somewhere.... |
| 21:27.54 | mozzwald | i have a pcmcia modem here and it's smaller than zipit. depends on measurements of the socket I spose |
| 21:28.48 | arossdotme-planb | id buy it or if there isnt one id hack something togeather with a tiny usb hub and solder usb things together and a adfruit powerboost 2in1 thingy |
| 21:29.13 | arossdotme-planb | mozzwald, oow |
| 21:29.54 | arossdotme-planb | lkcl, somewhere? A. re past posts of initial motivations or B. zipit stuff? |
| 21:32.19 | mozzwald | also, this form factor might be easier to design with https://hackaday.io/project/5081-malti |
| 21:35.06 | arossdotme-planb | looks like it can be a source of work to reuse :) |
| 21:35.37 | arossdotme-planb | in the future may there be eoma-cf: http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/CompactFlash |
| 21:35.54 | arossdotme-planb | but for now id prefer a handheld using eoma-68 than not :) |
| 21:36.11 | arossdotme-planb | really dont want to be stuck with $SBC |
| 21:36.53 | lkcl | mozzwald: i loooove the malti |
| 21:37.10 | mozzwald | yeah. when I saw eoma, first thought was ooo, new zipit :) |
| 21:38.40 | mozzwald | i have tested out the tca8418 with a small matrix of buttons on raspi. it would be easy to implement for eoma |
| 21:39.37 | mozzwald | i found malti while searching for tca8418 drivers. they had same idea as me :P |
| 21:39.43 | arossdotme-planb | arr pictures, i see ooww https://hackaday.io/project/5081/logs |
| 21:46.22 | SPG | astr master 3737034 source community_ideas/clamshell_microlaptop.mdwn pad link * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=3737034 |
| 21:54.40 | SPG | astr master ebf8064 source community_ideas/clamshell_microlaptop.mdwn added < > around links * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=ebf8064 |
| 21:57.07 | fitzsim | another wild idea: Librem 15 chassis (with 1920x1080 screen), but with EOMA-68 adapter |
| 21:57.22 | fitzsim | I want an EOMA-68 laptop, but with an HD screen |
| 21:58.13 | arossdotme-planb | heh |
| 21:58.30 | arossdotme-planb | lkcl, cant create new page, i get 404 |
| 21:58.45 | arossdotme-planb | lkcl, can you create http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/zipit_refit |
| 21:59.01 | lkcl | fitzsim: it'll need about.... $50k and about... 18 months |
| 21:59.09 | lkcl | arossdotme-planb: ack |
| 21:59.43 | arossdotme-planb | have been able to edit existing pages at least on the bright side |
| 21:59.58 | SPG | Luke Leighton master bb96977 source crowdsupply/zipit_refit.mdwn add zipit page * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=bb96977 |
| 21:59.58 | SPG | Luke Leighton master 86c2f35 source community_ideas/zipit_refit.mdwn crowdsupply/zipit_refit.mdwn move zipit page * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=86c2f35 |
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| 22:00.07 | lkcl | arossdotme-planb: done |
| 22:00.14 | arossdotme-planb | lkcl, brill thx |
| 22:08.58 | SPG | astr master 178be7a source community_ideas/zipit_refit.mdwn zipit handheld/clamshell refit upgrade via eoma-* card standard. * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=178be7a |
| 22:10.24 | SPG | astr master f9c57e5 source community_ideas/zipit_refit.mdwn * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=f9c57e5 |
| 22:11.49 | SPG | astr master a1255c7 source community_ideas/zipit_refit.mdwn * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1255c7 |
| 22:13.34 | SPG | astr master d6c9122 source community_ideas/zipit_refit.mdwn mozzwald link * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=d6c9122 |
| 22:14.10 | arossdotme-planb | mozzwald, wiki page http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/zipit_refit |
| 22:17.18 | mozzwald | awesome |
| 22:39.02 | arossdotme-planb | mozzwald, feel free to edit it |
| 22:40.31 | mozzwald | k. i think it all comes down to the lcd connector. if we can't get them, it's not worth it. i have datasheet somewhere and need to figure out # of pins |
| 22:41.51 | SPG | astr master 123f8df source community_ideas/clamshell_microlaptop.mdwn added Malti link * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=123f8df |
| 22:42.53 | SPG | astr master 7e96136 source community_ideas/zipit_refit.mdwn * http://source.rhombus-tech.net/?p=source.git;a=commitdiff;h=7e96136 |
| 23:05.45 | Emulatorman | lkcl: ping |
| 23:06.47 | Emulatorman | lkcl: Parabola news about eoma68 in https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop should be upgraded |
| 23:08.21 | Emulatorman | lkcl: our current url is "/new-ryf-seeking...", not "/new-libre..." |
| 23:08.29 | Emulatorman | lkcl: https://www.parabola.nu/news/new-ryf-seeking-hardware-crowdfunding-project-with-parabola-pre-installed/ |
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| 23:43.10 | mozzwald | arossdotme-planb: ^^ updated infos |
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