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| 07:11.36 | damo22 | when did EOMA68 spec get written? |
| 07:11.56 | damo22 | i think it's brilliant |
| 07:12.38 | damo22 | a socket and compute card model, |
| 07:16.22 | damo22 | is there a socket view of the micro desktop? |
| 07:16.35 | damo22 | i want to see what connectors are on the socket |
| 07:16.58 | damo22 | eg power vga |
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| 07:27.41 | damo22 | i had an idea to increase the potential user base |
| 07:27.56 | damo22 | maybe i can design a sound card addon |
| 07:28.05 | damo22 | for capture/playback |
| 07:28.29 | damo22 | via I2C ? |
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| 09:11.50 | lkcl | demo22: over the past 5 years. |
| 09:12.22 | lkcl | damo22: sorry dark in here, late night/early morning |
| 09:12.54 | lkcl | damo22: http://rhombus-tech.net/community_ideas/micro_desktop/news/ |
| 09:13.12 | damo22 | 5 yearssSsSS |
| 09:13.19 | damo22 | you legends |
| 09:13.30 | damo22 | !!! |
| 09:13.35 | lkcl | :) |
| 09:13.55 | damo22 | just saw cedrus video |
| 09:13.59 | lkcl | you may find the ecocomputing white paper interesting |
| 09:14.13 | lkcl | http://rhombus-tech.net/whitepapers/ecocomputing_07sep2015/ |
| 09:14.22 | lkcl | gives the background |
| 09:15.32 | damo22 | lkcl: what about retrofitting old thinkpads to eoma68 socket? |
| 09:15.49 | damo22 | options are endless |
| 09:16.14 | damo22 | eg, ones that cant be librebooted |
| 09:16.21 | damo22 | like x201 and greater |
| 09:16.24 | lkcl | damo22: nooooo. |
| 09:16.36 | damo22 | no? |
| 09:16.54 | lkcl | damo22: it'd take about 8-12 months of work, most of that involving component sourcing |
| 09:17.10 | damo22 | okay |
| 09:17.13 | damo22 | i have no idea |
| 09:17.29 | lkcl | damo22: it's just not worth the effort.... and you'd end up driving up the 2nd-hand market in whatever it is that was chosen |
| 09:17.54 | lkcl | looked into it about 4 years ago |
| 09:18.08 | lkcl | because yeah i thought, "surely it would be easier", right? :) |
| 09:18.13 | lkcl | wrongggg :) |
| 09:18.21 | damo22 | well i happen to know that the EC used in thinkpads is mostly the same model... doesnt help? |
| 09:19.24 | lkcl | damo22: it's the connectors and the PCB layout that's the main issue |
| 09:19.29 | damo22 | i mean to gut the whole electronics |
| 09:19.31 | lkcl | that, and the reverse-engineering that's needed |
| 09:19.41 | damo22 | and just use the plastic enclosure |
| 09:20.22 | damo22 | but i have no idea how one might use the keyboard |
| 09:20.26 | damo22 | which is main feature |
| 09:21.05 | lkcl | damo22: have the keyboard connections been reverse-engineered? if no, then one of them needs to be destructively-analysed to find out the pinouts. |
| 09:21.28 | lkcl | also, what's the *exact* height of the PCB inside, will the connectors fit |
| 09:21.35 | damo22 | there are schematics available for some thinkpads |
| 09:21.42 | lkcl | have there been any specialist connectors designed to fit *exactly* at the right height |
| 09:21.45 | lkcl | if not |
| 09:21.48 | damo22 | yeah ok |
| 09:21.50 | damo22 | idk |
| 09:21.53 | lkcl | where can you get equivalents... |
| 09:21.54 | lkcl | etc. |
| 09:21.59 | damo22 | buger |
| 09:22.15 | lkcl | it *literally* takes months to go over absolutely every single detail |
| 09:22.19 | damo22 | 3d print new laptop enclosure might be better anyway |
| 09:22.25 | lkcl | only to find that suppliers won't talk to you!!! |
| 09:22.29 | lkcl | eexactly.... |
| 09:22.39 | lkcl | now you have control over the positions of the holes |
| 09:22.42 | damo22 | you guys already have this figured out |
| 09:22.45 | damo22 | its cool |
| 09:22.56 | lkcl | so you can choose *your* own connectors that *you* can get easily... |
| 09:22.59 | lkcl | :) |
| 09:23.01 | damo22 | :D |
| 09:23.14 | lkcl | that's why it's been 5 years because i had to work all this out |
| 09:23.23 | damo22 | i respect that |
| 09:23.51 | damo22 | what about a sound card addon |
| 09:24.00 | damo22 | that has some preamps |
| 09:24.15 | damo22 | that would blow everything on the market out of the water |
| 09:24.18 | lkcl | the main high-speed data bus that could cope with sound is audio |
| 09:24.19 | lkcl | :) |
| 09:24.38 | damo22 | ? |
| 09:24.49 | damo22 | audio data bus? |
| 09:24.51 | lkcl | sorry - usb. |
| 09:24.54 | lkcl | tired. |
| 09:24.56 | damo22 | ah |
| 09:25.02 | lkcl | must go back to sleep very shortly |
| 09:25.05 | damo22 | np |
| 09:25.13 | damo22 | thanks for being available for a few minutes |
| 09:25.42 | damo22 | which one should i buy |
| 09:25.45 | damo22 | i want to support |
| 09:25.58 | lkcl | you join the mailing list? link in the irc window i think |
| 09:26.02 | damo22 | socket + compute card |
| 09:26.12 | lkcl | suggest getting the microdesktop and the libre tea |
| 09:26.16 | damo22 | ok |
| 09:26.19 | damo22 | will do |
| 09:26.26 | lkcl | cable set might be useful too |
| 09:26.34 | damo22 | sure |
| 09:26.43 | lkcl | but you can get the same stuff on amazon if you prefer :) |
| 09:26.47 | damo22 | nahhhh |
| 09:26.56 | damo22 | screw amazon |
| 09:26.59 | lkcl | lol |
| 09:27.11 | lkcl | alright ttyl damo22 |
| 09:27.14 | damo22 | thanks |
| 09:27.15 | damo22 | bye |
| 09:41.38 | damo22 | pledged! |
| 09:42.16 | orly_owl | lemon pledge? |
| 09:43.10 | damo22 | ? |
| 09:46.57 | orly_owl | are you using lemon pledge? |
| 09:47.11 | damo22 | i dont know what is it |
| 09:47.39 | orly_owl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uklF7VtqJq8 |
| 09:48.08 | orly_owl | that should explain |
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| 10:02.55 | arossdotme | damo22, its things like the lcd cable connector, them things are show stoppers |
| 10:03.08 | arossdotme | i think that was one thing anyway (?:) |
| 10:07.20 | damo22 | ok |
| 10:08.32 | damo22 | the only thing i might miss is the thinkpad keyboard |
| 10:08.55 | damo22 | the rest i can live with |
| 10:09.14 | damo22 | even lower quality video |
| 10:09.22 | damo22 | and slower cpu |
| 10:11.01 | orly_owl | what craptop are you buying |
| 10:11.14 | damo22 | like the only reason i would use a laptop over a desktop is portability, but i wouldnt want to compromise on the tactile feel of a decent keyboard otherwise i would stay with a desktop + usb keyboard |
| 10:11.30 | orly_owl | oh, EOMA68 |
| 10:11.37 | damo22 | yes |
| 10:11.53 | damo22 | eoma68 is brilliant, i only discovered it |
| 10:12.06 | damo22 | today |
| 10:13.19 | damo22 | i imagine one day you can plug your compute card into a sound card with preamps or into a digital camera |
| 10:13.51 | damo22 | to get custom functionality |
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| 10:15.43 | damo22 | i guess for people like me someone will make a cool keyboard dock for the compute card so i can type properly |
| 10:18.22 | damo22 | i wonder if the compute card be powered via usb so you can use it standalone without the socket as well |
| 10:18.39 | damo22 | that would be ultimate |
| 10:20.52 | damo22 | lol id love one day to hijack power from someones iBad |
| 10:20.57 | damo22 | to run my main system |
| 10:20.59 | orly_owl | stick PCs are pretty close |
| 10:21.05 | orly_owl | like MK802 |
| 10:21.18 | arossdotme-planb | yea the a20 card can be powered via the micro OTG usb on the edge of it |
| 10:21.34 | damo22 | hahaha wicked |
| 10:21.34 | arossdotme-planb | thats what the cable set option in the crowd fund is for |
| 10:21.43 | damo22 | ok i just ordered that too |
| 10:21.53 | arossdotme-planb | or ya could power it from the breakout board |
| 10:22.21 | arossdotme-planb | with a 5v power suppy |
| 10:22.37 | arossdotme-planb | so 2 ways of powering it, |
| 10:23.12 | arossdotme-planb | the breakout will work with any eoma-68 card wheres the micro OTG usb depends on the soc |
| 10:23.22 | damo22 | im tempted to give up developing libreboot |
| 10:23.30 | arossdotme-planb | aww |
| 10:23.32 | orly_owl | some monitors and tvs have usb ports, so thats always a nice power option |
| 10:24.47 | damo22 | im currently working on a x86 AMD board but ram wont work yet :( |
| 10:24.52 | damo22 | its painful |
| 10:25.25 | damo22 | ive made almost zero progress for months |
| 10:26.05 | damo22 | its actually a waste of time |
| 10:27.31 | orly_owl | which one? |
| 10:27.34 | damo22 | i should give it up and see if i can contribute to this instead |
| 10:28.02 | damo22 | Asus F2A85-M with Trinity processor |
| 10:28.29 | orly_owl | did you work on the D510 at all? |
| 10:28.40 | damo22 | i completed the D510 from scratch |
| 10:29.03 | orly_owl | heh right |
| 10:29.04 | damo22 | i completed the g41m from scratch |
| 10:30.49 | damo22 | anyway, this project is future proof |
| 10:31.00 | damo22 | mine only works on some second hand market |
| 10:31.16 | damo22 | which is almost gone |
| 10:34.54 | damo22 | is there any hardware i can buy off the shelf today that will help this project get certified if i do some reverse engineering? |
| 10:35.46 | damo22 | or a status page for the hardware/software/firmware support? |
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| 11:40.19 | Tsutsukakushi | lkcl: about the crowdsupply tor thing |
| 11:40.49 | Tsutsukakushi | lkcl: you know how to explain to them that requiring captcha is blocks any tor users, right? |
| 11:41.19 | Tsutsukakushi | that means you have to be identified with 100% accuracy or you won't be let in |
| 11:51.47 | arossdotme-planb | Tsutsukakushi, +1 bloody cloudflare grrrr |
| 11:52.16 | arossdotme-planb | .onion version would be great |
| 11:52.36 | arossdotme-planb | damo22, well i admire your efforts. |
| 11:52.59 | arossdotme-planb | i guess if ya can revese engering the 3d gpu stuff that would be great :) |
| 11:53.59 | arossdotme-planb | people used the mele box to play with a10/20(?) originally theres info in the wiki |
| 11:54.49 | arossdotme-planb | firmware wise its diy with a arduino thingy to do all the odd bits |
| 11:55.46 | arossdotme-planb | idk what to suggest |
| 11:56.33 | arossdotme-planb | msg lkcl ^ |
| 12:00.11 | Tsutsukakushi | :o |
| 12:00.50 | arossdotme-planb | sorry gets me wound up |
| 12:01.11 | arossdotme-planb | annoyed |
| 12:08.33 | damo22 | heh cool |
| 12:25.46 | damo22 | arossdotme-planb: mele a2000 has allwinner a20? |
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| 12:38.06 | damo22 | i know raspberry pi requires a proprietary blob as bootloader and i heard someone is untangling the mess with cpu part and gpu part that initialises the ram, what is the story for the a20 compute card? is the bootloader libre? |
| 12:50.42 | damo22 | for example i wonder if it makes any sense at all to port libreboot to your a20 compute card so you can do things like install grub as a payload on the compute module itself to boot any media that is plugged into it |
| 12:59.24 | jelly | damo22, uboot is used and you can boot off a sd card by default |
| 13:03.43 | damo22 | i am used to x86 where there is a flash chip containing the startup code, is that the case on arm? sorry where is uboot stored? |
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| 13:26.29 | Emulatorman1 | is building iceweasel for Parabola adapted for ARMv7 machines, it will be useful for Libre Tea Computer Card ;) |
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| 14:14.12 | SirCmpwn | so what can we expect the audio deal to be for the EOMA68 |
| 14:14.21 | SirCmpwn | I guess USB audio or maybe bluetooth will be the only way? |
| 14:21.12 | damo22 | i wrote a few linux drivers for usb sound card peripherals, that might help |
| 14:23.25 | damo22 | (i added them on h-node.org the other day) |
| 14:24.37 | damo22 | although low latency might be an issue for some people who want to do serious recording |
| 14:26.01 | damo22 | i can get sub 10ms with my current set up on usb1 |
| 14:26.13 | damo22 | (using x86 hw) |
| 14:28.30 | damo22 | however people who do serious recording, usually need huge processors for the extra DSP they do on the cpu, so you cant really win both games with freedom right away |
| 14:31.16 | damo22 | i would love to try libre tea computer card with my usb audio interface |
| 14:31.33 | damo22 | :D |
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| 14:58.24 | damo22 | looks like my friend did most of the a20 coreboot port https://github.com/mytbk/coreboot/tree/cubie_mmc_ct/src/mainboard/cubietech/cubietruck |
| 14:58.51 | damo22 | something like that might just work for libre tea computer card |
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| 15:26.52 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: did you email joshua and erik back, explaining that the captcha doesn't work? |
| 15:28.02 | lkcl | damo22: see if you can get hold of a cubietruck - it's one of the few A20 boards that has 2GB of RAM. |
| 15:30.45 | damo22 | lkcl: welcome back! thanks, id be keen to hear your opinion of the usefulness of coreboot/libreboot on a libre tea card |
| 15:32.16 | Tsutsukakushi | i feel like they would listen to you better |
| 15:32.42 | lkcl | damo22: honestly... u-boot has it covered. |
| 15:32.45 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: ok man |
| 15:35.30 | Tsutsukakushi | >.> |
| 15:35.36 | Tsutsukakushi | the captcha doesn't fail |
| 15:35.39 | Tsutsukakushi | you can't even load |
| 15:35.40 | Tsutsukakushi | it |
| 15:35.48 | Tsutsukakushi | because you shouldn't have javascript enabled |
| 15:36.03 | Tsutsukakushi | because there are several ways to 100% accurately identify a person using javascript |
| 15:36.40 | Tsutsukakushi | one person i know had a nice theory about CF just being a front for the NSA |
| 15:37.15 | Tsutsukakushi | it's really effectife way to deanonymize most users and they voluntarily let you mitm them as well |
| 15:37.34 | Tsutsukakushi | that's why i like to call CF a mitm-as-a-service |
| 15:40.35 | damo22 | maybe my second compute card can have libreboot on it... when sata connector is available, it would make more sense then so you can boot off ahci? |
| 15:42.44 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: okay so you're not running javascript. i'm not sure what do do, there, or what to suggest, other than perhaps going to a library or using archive.org? hmmm let's check that... |
| 15:44.16 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: how does this look https://web.archive.org/web/20160810003112/https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop [-] |
| 15:44.54 | lkcl | sounds to me like you'll need to use bitcoin, money order or bank transfer |
| 15:45.22 | lkcl | damo22: sata will never be available on eoma68. it's on the faq as to why we had to remove it. |
| 15:45.51 | lkcl | damo22: but also, you will find that the number of embedded SoCs that actually *boot* off of SATA can be counted on ... err... one finger. |
| 15:46.40 | damo22 | :) i was going to help increment, but never mind |
| 15:46.46 | lkcl | damo22: LITERALLY the ONLY embedded processor known to be capable directly off of SATA is the Freescale iMX6. it has a rather... quirky (obviously first revision) UEFI implementation in its on-board ROM |
| 15:47.17 | lkcl | damo22: embedded processors are a whole new world where things like "BIOSes" just don't exist. if you want a BIOS, you write it yourself (!!!) |
| 15:47.37 | damo22 | because if libreboot can be ported to a20, you can run grub as a payload |
| 15:47.56 | damo22 | so yes, i would write a whole bios in effect |
| 15:47.58 | lkcl | damo22: u-boot can already run grub as a payload. it's been ported to ARM already |
| 15:48.02 | damo22 | ohhh |
| 15:48.39 | damo22 | ok np |
| 15:48.46 | lkcl | damo22: nobody uses grub because u-boot can boot a direct kernel, and it's simpler |
| 15:49.05 | damo22 | i see |
| 15:49.20 | lkcl | damo22: these are resource-constrained machines and there are literally something like a thousand separate licensees of the ARM processor design |
| 15:49.25 | lkcl | all of them under NDA.... |
| 15:49.33 | lkcl | **NONE** of them collaborate or cooperate... |
| 15:49.45 | damo22 | geez |
| 15:49.50 | lkcl | **ALL** of them do things **TOTALLY** in secrecy and completely their own way |
| 15:50.10 | damo22 | :( |
| 15:50.15 | lkcl | then leave the u-boot and linux community to pick up the pieces of the debris that they leave behind |
| 15:50.29 | lkcl | usually years after the product's release |
| 15:50.39 | damo22 | sad story |
| 15:50.43 | lkcl | times HUNDREDS of processors. |
| 15:50.50 | Tsutsukakushi | i don't mind running javascript for a few minutes to order it |
| 15:50.52 | Tsutsukakushi | but |
| 15:50.53 | lkcl | no wonder russell king's totally overloaded |
| 15:50.59 | Tsutsukakushi | i don't want to run javascript just to read about it |
| 15:51.01 | Tsutsukakushi | that's a big problem |
| 15:51.10 | Tsutsukakushi | and no one using tor should |
| 15:51.32 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: i can email you a wget --r -l 3 copy of the pages :) |
| 15:51.43 | Tsutsukakushi | you don't seem to understand the cloudflare problem very well |
| 15:52.49 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: it's not my web site, i would never use cloudfare - i run my own server. |
| 15:53.04 | lkcl | have done for 10 years. |
| 15:53.10 | Tsutsukakushi | you still need your own server even with cloudflare |
| 15:53.17 | Tsutsukakushi | ffs |
| 15:53.22 | Tsutsukakushi | do you even know what cloudflare is? |
| 15:53.26 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: how crowdsupply run their web services is up to them. |
| 15:53.32 | Tsutsukakushi | yes |
| 15:53.59 | Tsutsukakushi | and you shouldn't use their site if it means that people can't read about your thing without giving away their whole identity |
| 15:54.04 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: only vaguely - i've heard of it enough to know that i am not the slightest bit interested (ever) in using it, so have not made room in my brain for anything to do with it :) |
| 15:54.16 | Tsutsukakushi | you use it every day probably |
| 15:54.17 | Tsutsukakushi | well |
| 15:54.27 | Tsutsukakushi | definitely since your thing is on a site that uses it |
| 15:54.49 | Tsutsukakushi | don't be so wilfully ignorant about this subject please |
| 15:54.51 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: *sigh*.... |
| 15:55.19 | lkcl | is dealing with too much |
| 15:55.37 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: i'll do a clone of the pages and email them to you |
| 15:55.57 | Tsutsukakushi | you should just consider moving away from crowdsupply |
| 15:56.05 | damo22 | Tsutsukakushi: how would you suggest to gain enough popularity to get funded quickly for EOMA68 without using that site? |
| 15:56.08 | Tsutsukakushi | we need a more freedom respecting alternative |
| 15:56.32 | Tsutsukakushi | damo22: are most of the people who ordered something from the site or from somewhere else? |
| 15:56.39 | Tsutsukakushi | as in |
| 15:56.53 | Tsutsukakushi | did they discover it from crowdsupply or from reddit or something like that? |
| 15:57.02 | Tsutsukakushi | my bet is on the latter |
| 15:57.16 | Tsutsukakushi | so the answer to your question is "the same way it was done this time" |
| 15:57.45 | damo22 | i found similar projects by perusing the other projects that were being funded on the same site |
| 15:57.56 | Tsutsukakushi | but how many people do that |
| 15:58.04 | damo22 | probably lots |
| 15:58.34 | Tsutsukakushi | i doubt |
| 15:59.22 | damo22 | i actually found out about this project today because the FSF sent me an email about it, and i followed the links to the crowdsupply site, it could have been any site really, but others may find it other ways that involve the site directly |
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| 16:06.19 | damo22 | its good to keep your wits about you on the internet, but this eoma68 project seems really good, im a bit confused why you find it vital to be anonymous to pledge your support for such a thing? |
| 16:07.12 | damo22 | doesnt your name go on the pledgers list anyway? |
| 16:07.24 | lkcl | damo22: he's made that decision, and it's important to respect that. |
| 16:07.53 | lkcl | damo22: not if he doesn't want it to - there are ways to be anonymous and we actually require this for the FSF to be able to endorse the campaign. |
| 16:08.00 | damo22 | oh i see |
| 16:13.47 | Tsutsukakushi | damo22: i find it vital for me to be able to learn about it anonymously |
| 16:13.56 | Tsutsukakushi | are you fucking retarded or something |
| 16:14.01 | Tsutsukakushi | it's not about the pledging |
| 16:14.09 | Tsutsukakushi | you can't even learn about it anonymously |
| 16:14.22 | damo22 | i didnt know you needed js just to read the page |
| 16:14.22 | Tsutsukakushi | because every link that people give is to crowdsupply |
| 16:14.26 | Tsutsukakushi | you do |
| 16:14.44 | Tsutsukakushi | i just told lkcl to not be willfully ignorant about this topic, and same applies to you |
| 16:15.55 | Tsutsukakushi | have you never used tor? |
| 16:36.58 | lkcl | damo22: cloudfare detect tor, then require a captcha. the captcha runs non-free javascript. Tsutsukakushi does not permit javascript to be run as it can be used for identity-tracking. |
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| 16:37.33 | Tsutsukakushi | yes |
| 16:37.42 | Tsutsukakushi | and this also applies to viewing the page |
| 16:43.43 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: i'm emailing you the mdwn page that generated the main content |
| 16:45.00 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: although i wrote all of them, the updates were done as emails and were transferred to mdwn text files by the crowdsupply team then copy-edited. |
| 16:45.30 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: i've asked them if they can tar all those up. |
| 16:48.39 | Tsutsukakushi | since you have a lot of experience running your own servers why not set up a server and generate the pages and put them there? |
| 16:48.43 | Tsutsukakushi | that's like 10 minute job |
| 16:51.20 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: because i'm under contract not to create any competing site. i'm pushing my luck by maintaining http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/ as it is |
| 16:52.03 | lkcl | honest / direct answer :) |
| 16:53.13 | Tsutsukakushi | it's not a competiting site |
| 16:53.24 | Tsutsukakushi | they aren't competing for the page views since they block them |
| 16:53.41 | Tsutsukakushi | it's just information |
| 16:53.45 | lkcl | apologies, still running a fever. exhausted. going to lie down again - back later. |
| 16:53.52 | Tsutsukakushi | i'm not telling you to make site where they could be purchased |
| 16:54.02 | Tsutsukakushi | just something where the information is available for people |
| 16:54.05 | Tsutsukakushi | that is not competiting |
| 16:54.18 | lkcl | Tsutsukakushi: let me know if you received the mdwn page i'll be back later, ok? |
| 16:59.40 | Tsutsukakushi | yeah |
| 16:59.41 | Tsutsukakushi | i did |
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| 19:51.15 | SPG | Luke Leighton master ee89790 source crowdsupply/assess_campaign.py update assessment * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=ee89790 |
| 19:51.15 | SPG | Luke Leighton master 8bdb769 source Merge branch 'master' of ssh://free.hands.com/source * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=8bdb769 |
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| 20:39.01 | hwpplayer1 | Hi people , what's going on here |
| 20:39.46 | hwpplayer1 | how many people know assembly here ? especially nasm and gnu asm |
| 20:53.46 | hwpplayer1 | see you later bye |
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| 21:28.15 | ngaioles | hi people anybody study assembly here ? |
| 21:42.46 | ngaioles | talk to you later thanks |
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| 23:43.46 | arossdotme-planb | while i hope crowdsupply change and replace cloudflare. i understand while luke uses crowdsupply. in the big skeem of things its a pain for now but hopefully can be imporved in the future. lkcl struggle is not perfecting crowdsupply but progressing project eoma-68, while yes cloudflare is a put off unless ya know its worth getting past it, so i simperfise with that but we, us tor users can get around that, ive been using ran |
| 23:43.47 | arossdotme-planb | dom proxy lists lately to get around this sort of bs. right now things are as they is, and i execpt that, i feel for luke and the strain hes under, theres only so much one can do but unlike others that say that for say an excuse for non-free software lukes done bloody well at being far better than that. to my knowage cloudflare on the crowdsupplly website is the last technical pain, which thankfully is a indirect one to the |
| 23:43.47 | arossdotme-planb | project. the rest is important marketing stuff. which me thinks could do with more people to help off load too :) |
| 23:45.14 | arossdotme-planb | *i understand why |