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| 00:14.07 | lkcl | mozzwald: we're getting this question a lot, and it's not an appropriate one. the question that should be asked, is, "how can i help make sure that the campaign succeeds". |
| 00:15.29 | lkcl | mozzwald: sorry, i've had to answer that question about 8 times in the past 3 days, so i'm going to answer it by asking people to redirect their time and energy - especially not wasting MY time and energy - and to focus on helping spread the word instead. much better and more productive use of time, yes? |
| 00:26.27 | mozzwald | lkcl: i understand, and figured it had been asked, but couldn't find an answer |
| 00:27.46 | mozzwald | curious because lilliputing states that if you hit 100k then you have enough to produce, but crowd supply docs say you must hit the goal |
| 00:31.01 | mozzwald | anyways, i'm doing what i can to spread the word and I hope it succeeds |
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| 03:06.52 | lkcl | mozzwald: thx mozzwald |
| 03:07.56 | lkcl | mozzwald: i've spoken privately to joshua - with a "normal" crowdfunding campaign, you have a spread of pledges that accurately reflect the items. |
| 03:08.43 | lkcl | and usually you have a single item anyway |
| 03:09.28 | lkcl | or, if there are two (or more) they're roughly the same cost... or at the absolute most they're like 5:1 |
| 03:09.52 | lkcl | *or* you're just not expecting there to be that many of the "minor, low-cost" items |
| 03:09.57 | lkcl | here it's totally different |
| 03:10.17 | lkcl | the discrepancy is 20:1 between the highest and lowest |
| 03:10.33 | lkcl | and the number of small items (computer cards) is WAY higher. |
| 03:11.13 | lkcl | so, counter-intuitively, if we get a larger number of Computer Cards, the maths shows us that the available cash goes *DOWN* not up! |
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| 09:22.29 | buZz | lkcl: but that doesnt really mean anything , does it? |
| 09:22.44 | buZz | lkcl: i mean, will the campaign work with less than 100% funding or not, is the question |
| 09:23.15 | buZz | just that the laptop costs more |
| 09:23.18 | buZz | yeh we can see that :P |
| 09:23.38 | buZz | so will the laptop costing more drag down the entire campaign and cause it to not happen? |
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| 13:06.13 | lkcl | buZz: i don't know!! |
| 13:06.39 | lkcl | buZz: what i do know is, if we stop fricking focussing on the fricking question which is taking up my fricking time fricking answering it |
| 13:06.49 | lkcl | buZz: and fricking well help with the fricking campaign instead |
| 13:06.59 | lkcl | buZz: it's much more likely to be a success!!!! |
| 13:07.27 | lkcl | buZz: the laptop costing more **INCREASES** the success of the campaign |
| 13:08.41 | lkcl | buZz: i've written that program http://rhombus-tech.net/crowdsupply/assess_campaign.py - please run it and experiment for yourself instead of forcing me to keep on answering the question |
| 13:08.50 | lkcl | buZz: or, better yet, *help with the campaign*!!!! |
| 13:11.48 | Gamayun | Hit 65k! :) |
| 13:15.55 | buZz | well i've been spamming it around ;) |
| 13:15.58 | SPG | Luke Leighton master fa45295 source crowdsupply/assess_campaign.py add moq assessment * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=fa45295 |
| 13:16.22 | lkcl | Gamayun: yehhh - nearly there for the MOQ on PCMCIA sockets. 86%. |
| 13:17.18 | lkcl | Gamayun: 288 on the computer cards - that means we get a much better rate on them than i previously estimated (MOQ 250) |
| 13:18.25 | lkcl | buZz: ^^^^ can you see, as the numbers go up, the assessments go down... but i *can't tell you* because it takes a good 2-4 weeks for the factory to redo the pricing based on the new quantity? |
| 13:19.01 | lkcl | buZz: so the answer is, *i don't know and can't tell you*. what i do know is: above a certain threshold the answer's guaranteed to be "yes". |
| 13:19.09 | buZz | heh |
| 13:19.13 | lkcl | buZz: yeh? :) |
| 13:19.17 | buZz | yeah i wanted to know if you knew the threshold |
| 13:19.51 | lkcl | buZz: not at all. i'm guessing somewhere north of $100k. |
| 13:20.18 | buZz | aw ok |
| 13:20.24 | buZz | well i'll keep spamming |
| 13:20.38 | lkcl | buZz: all my time and energy right now is focussed on answering questions, creating videos, thinking of things to do, and so on. |
| 13:20.52 | buZz | yeah thats running a crowdfunding |
| 13:20.55 | lkcl | buZz: i can't even remember how to deal with git right now :) |
| 13:21.08 | buZz | no worries |
| 13:21.11 | lkcl | buZz: i can manage "git commit, push and pull" :) |
| 13:23.02 | lkcl | buZz: http://hands.com/~lkcl/scrn.png - that's my screen at the moment |
| 13:23.54 | lkcl | buZz: notice the THIRTY "pinned" tabs at the top? 18 of those are for the campaign... i have around 200 "unpinned" tabs... :) |
| 13:24.13 | buZz | ;) i'm also addicted to manytabs |
| 13:28.24 | Gamayun | lkcl: Maybe more people can be directed here or to mailing list for answers. Only found the channel when I realised there must be one and went looking ;) |
| 13:34.32 | buZz | i remember it existing from what lkcl mentioned in a video |
| 13:34.37 | buZz | but been idleing here a while |
| 13:45.49 | lkcl | Gamayun: heh. it's mentioned... but there's a lot to read. can't really simplify things! the mailing list is there on the faq, i just added the irc |
| 14:00.24 | Gamayun | :) |
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