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| 12:27.42 | jinzo | Hm, does anyone have any good articles comparing the performance of new(er) SoC's? A20, A31, RK3188? |
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| 17:05.44 | SPG | Jos_Luis master 4e36eae rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/jose.laica__64__gmail.com.html * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=4e36eae |
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| 17:12.39 | hramrach | jinzo: I could not find even any rk31 benchmarks :/ |
| 17:13.03 | jinzo | damn :/ |
| 17:13.16 | jinzo | I'm a bit behind and don't have the time to keep up with all this stuff |
| 17:13.29 | hramrach | A20 and A31 did not turn out that nice. A20 more cores but not much more memory bandwidth than A10 |
| 17:13.57 | hramrach | A31 has theoretically wider memory bus but there are some issues too. don't follow that one becasue it has lame graphics |
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| 17:14.35 | jinzo | yeah, but at least A20 truly is priced very near A10 |
| 17:15.03 | jinzo | RK doesen't leave good taste in the mouth with linux support (and performance was not that stellar in previous chips too) |
| 17:15.08 | hramrach | it's drop-in replacement potentially improving mp performance at the cost of up performance |
| 17:15.58 | jinzo | but it looks like RK3188 is the go-to SoC for cheap stuff on quad cores - and supposedly better than the ATM shit |
| 17:16.06 | hramrach | the arch is updated since a10 so some things are better but there is potential for new bugs |
| 17:16.24 | hramrach | why would you want quad? |
| 17:16.46 | hramrach | if it has more memory bandwidth than A20/A31 then sure |
| 17:16.53 | hramrach | if not the cores will idle |
| 17:17.00 | hramrach | most likely |
| 17:17.12 | jinzo | I don't specificly want quad, but just interested in performance aspects |
| 17:17.29 | hramrach | I am interested in perf aspects of rk too |
| 17:17.32 | jinzo | and which SoC to suggest to friends/relatives to look into |
| 17:17.44 | hramrach | but the linux support is not even at the point you could measure the performance |
| 17:18.26 | jinzo | yeah I know |
| 17:18.32 | hramrach | the kernel does not support cpufreq scaling yeat and the SoC does not default to max from the bootloader (which is closed) |
| 17:18.45 | jinzo | I would go with Exynos/i.mx6 if I would look performance + linux |
| 17:19.06 | hramrach | likes exynos performance |
| 17:19.40 | jinzo | the new Octa's look sexy, and ODROID even has a board out now. |
| 17:19.45 | jinzo | which is nice. |
| 17:19.57 | jinzo | s/ODROID/hardkernel/ |
| 17:20.42 | jinzo | I think we're closing on the "this is usable as a limited workstation" milestone with those SoCs |
| 17:20.50 | hramrach | typing on a chromebook |
| 17:21.44 | hramrach | yes, the exynos really looks usable |
| 17:21.52 | hramrach | with small screen at least |
| 17:22.15 | hramrach | still problems with video playback and 3d, though |
| 17:22.25 | jinzo | :/ |
| 17:22.42 | hramrach | 3d is probably doable but video :/ |
| 17:22.43 | jinzo | the new chromebook pixel is x86? |
| 17:22.57 | jinzo | googles |
| 17:23.02 | hramrach | pixel is x86 I think |
| 17:23.10 | jinzo | because that has a big ass screen resolution :D |
| 17:23.38 | jinzo | yeah, i5 even :/ |
| 17:23.39 | hramrach | but there is this arm netbook from samsung shipped with chromeos preinstalled |
| 17:23.49 | jinzo | and acer too afaik? |
| 17:24.06 | hramrach | yes. probably |
| 17:24.15 | jinzo | anyway I have to run, it was a pleasure. |
| 17:24.39 | hramrach | won't touch anything from Acer unless I can see it in advance and it has *lots* of *very* positive reviews |
| 17:29.23 | Gumboot | I see a fan! |
| 17:29.34 | Gumboot | CA15 _can_ be run fanless at full speed, right? |
| 17:37.21 | Gumboot | Also wondering how Dual and Octa compare for OpenCL-style tasks. |
| 17:39.00 | WarheadsSE | jinzo: samsung is the ARM |
| 17:39.03 | WarheadsSE | series 3 |
| 17:39.46 | WarheadsSE | Gumboot: yup, it has a fan, between the CPU & power monitoring chip |
| 17:40.35 | Gumboot | Kind of spoils the point of it all, for me. |
| 17:40.46 | WarheadsSE | hramrach: video playback should be mostly portable as lima comes along, and we get some access to the decoders |
| 17:40.57 | Gumboot | Well, half of it. The other half is that x86 is a horrible ISA. |
| 17:41.13 | WarheadsSE | well, the S4(intl) is thermal throttled a bit, and has the beauty of being rested right afainst the frame for heat dissipation |
| 17:41.50 | WarheadsSE | pepperflash does work fairly well hramrach but I wouldn't attempt a 720p playback.. |
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| 19:07.08 | hramrach | WarheadsSE: lima does not do video, it does 3d |
| 19:08.23 | hramrach | and 720p is lame. today common content is 1080p. if you can't play that you don't have a video player . |
| 19:22.32 | WarheadsSE | hramrach: I wouldn't want to use this non-1080p screen for viewing, tbh |
| 19:23.07 | hramrach | WarheadsSE: so would you want to recode? |
| 19:23.25 | hramrach | it's not about getting the supreme quality. it's about getting any playback at all |
| 19:24.02 | hramrach | plus you ahve a HDMI connector :p |
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| 19:24.59 | WarheadsSE | hramrach: I have tv's for movies |
| 19:25.15 | WarheadsSE | for which I have chromecast && WDTV Live attached |
| 19:25.58 | hramrach | I don't. And you can't pack a TV into a laptop bag |
| 19:29.12 | WarheadsSE | Yeah, but I can pack my tablet |
| 19:29.37 | hramrach | which has totally 1080p screen |
| 19:34.27 | WarheadsSE | close |
| 19:35.26 | WarheadsSE | or as close as you're going to really get. |
| 19:36.29 | hramrach | there are 1080p tablest these days |
| 19:37.31 | WarheadsSE | I can't remember.. is the new nexus7 1080? .. i just said shuttup and take my money.. |
| 19:37.36 | hramrach | but the point is not that you can packa a tablet. The point is that if you pack a device you either can play 1080p on it (even if the screen has lower res) or it's useless for media playback/review/.. |
| 19:38.01 | WarheadsSE | Yeah, I don't use my hromebook for media |
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