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| 09:30.28 | slapin_nb | hi, all! anybody knows some cheap ethernet phy for single-mode fiber? |
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| 10:34.09 | PoWeRKiLL | hi cnxsoft are you there ? |
| 10:34.17 | cnxsoft | yes |
| 10:54.48 | PoWeRKiLL | can you help me with compiling a firmware for tcc8925 device |
| 10:55.53 | PoWeRKiLL | I have a this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=36982255 I manage to follow your tutorial for compiling a zImage of Linux 3.0.8 |
| 10:56.10 | PoWeRKiLL | now I wish to create a true linux image |
| 10:57.55 | projectgus | PoWeRKiLL: what do you mean by a true linux image? |
| 10:59.07 | PoWeRKiLL | yes |
| 10:59.13 | PoWeRKiLL | it's should be possible no ? |
| 10:59.23 | PoWeRKiLL | like the xbmc linux of pivos |
| 10:59.37 | PoWeRKiLL | https://github.com/Pivosgroup |
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| 11:04.19 | projectgus | oh, i see, you mean gnu/linux as opposed to android |
| 11:04.39 | projectgus | should certainly be possible, I'm afraid I don't know anything about tcc8925 though - sorry |
| 11:06.23 | PoWeRKiLL | projectgus do you know how to create a firmware image based on the zImage already created ? |
| 11:08.17 | PoWeRKiLL | cnxsoft may be you can help ? |
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| 11:14.43 | projectgus | PoWeRKiLL: the zimage is just the kernel, the thing you need is usually called a 'rootfs' - it's a filesystem that you point the kernel to when it runs |
| 11:14.53 | projectgus | exactly how to do this so it works on a tcc8925, i do not know, sorry |
| 11:17.28 | lkcl | i believe they do a digital signature / checksum on the sdcard so that'll need to be removed. |
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| 12:05.02 | focus | lkcl: what is your official position on someone like me making a few of your boards as samples through my CN partner company? I need the gerbers and BoM. I can fund 10 pieces max. |
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| 12:58.04 | cnxsoft | PoWeRKiLL: I've never gone as far as trying a rootfs |
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| 13:52.15 | PoWeRKiLL | cnxsoft sorry got disconnected you read my question ? |
| 13:52.35 | cnxsoft | PoWeRKiLL: I've never gone as far as trying a rootfs |
| 13:54.35 | PoWeRKiLL | how to make a rootfs once I got the zImage ? |
| 14:07.14 | rz2k | PoWeRKiLL: grab linaro https://releases.linaro.org/latest/ubuntu/quantal-images/alip |
| 14:07.41 | rz2k | also you need bootloader |
| 14:07.56 | rz2k | configured and working, which can boot your kernel image |
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| 14:10.20 | PoWeRKiLL | rz2k will try right now |
| 14:14.06 | PoWeRKiLL | lkcl I follow http://lkcl.net/reports/odroid-u2.html now I'm running debian inside Android |
| 14:14.19 | PoWeRKiLL | running uname -a give me Linux localhost 3.0.8-tcc #364 PREEMPT Fri Nov 16 20:51:49 CST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 14:15.33 | PoWeRKiLL | but apt-get update give nothing cause source.list is empty with source do I have to add ? |
| 14:16.59 | PoWeRKiLL | I add squeeze source |
| 14:18.42 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: :) |
| 14:18.50 | lkcl | yes. |
| 14:18.54 | lkcl | /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:18.57 | PoWeRKiLL | lklc your tut rocks |
| 14:19.08 | PoWeRKiLL | I'm compiling the kernel on the stick :D |
| 14:19.13 | lkcl | i just copied other peoples!! |
| 14:19.17 | PoWeRKiLL | hope it will work till the end |
| 14:19.45 | PoWeRKiLL | what I don't understand if I'm already under Linux localhost 3.0.8-tcc #364 PREEMPT Fri Nov 16 20:51:49 CST 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 14:20.05 | PoWeRKiLL | why don't use this kernel it's seems already here somewhere no ? |
| 14:20.12 | lkcl | i have this in the /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:20.19 | lkcl | deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 14:20.19 | lkcl | deb-src http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 14:20.20 | lkcl | that's all |
| 14:20.29 | lkcl | yes - you could. it's pretty recent. |
| 14:20.47 | PoWeRKiLL | how ? |
| 14:21.11 | lkcl | the only thing is: if it's compiled for android it will have all sorts of weirdness in it. |
| 14:21.34 | lkcl | "security" such as stopping users from gaining access to network unless they are in group 3003 |
| 14:21.43 | lkcl | or something weird like that, you'll have to look it up |
| 14:21.45 | PoWeRKiLL | ok I understand so better recompile it |
| 14:22.03 | lkcl | yes... *if* it doesn't need digital signatures etc. etc. |
| 14:22.18 | lkcl | but, now you are on the box, look up some debian commands for accessing the NAND flash |
| 14:22.20 | lkcl | directly |
| 14:22.29 | lkcl | or just use dd or hexdump etc. etc. etc. |
| 14:22.48 | PoWeRKiLL | I think that this is the right kernel to use apt-get build-essential git ncurses-dev |
| 14:22.55 | PoWeRKiLL | sorry bad copy paste |
| 14:23.09 | PoWeRKiLL | https://github.com/cnxsoft/telechips-linux |
| 14:23.14 | lkcl | those are the commands you'll need to do the compiling |
| 14:23.16 | lkcl | oo! |
| 14:23.37 | lkcl | good stuff! |
| 14:23.48 | focus | lkcl: what is your official position on someone like me making a few of your boards as samples through my CN partner company? I need the gerbers and BoM. I can fund 10 pieces max. If too difficult to answer now, just say too difficult to answer now. |
| 14:24.43 | PoWeRKiLL | lkcl you are a board maker ? |
| 14:24.45 | lkcl | focus: let me think and talk with my partners. the next main thing to do is to get an online "store" set up somewhere |
| 14:25.09 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: i can do 98% of PCB design stuff |
| 14:25.12 | focus | lkcl: ok thanks, I respect that. |
| 14:25.22 | PoWeRKiLL | wow |
| 14:25.49 | lkcl | focus: so we can get a little more than 10 units :) i think a safe first run would be around 100 |
| 14:25.58 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: it's mostly cut/paste of other peoples' stuff :) |
| 14:26.03 | PoWeRKiLL | lkcl what board do you advise I'm looking for a good setopox that can read HLS stream |
| 14:26.20 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: i apply the same software-engineering skills to using PCB layout software :) |
| 14:26.29 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: what's HLS? |
| 14:26.49 | lkcl | ok HTTP live streaming |
| 14:26.58 | PoWeRKiLL | HLS is a streaming format from apple H264 video + AAC Audio |
| 14:27.00 | focus | lkcl: 10 units first, then 100 units, then 1000. The first 10 units are produced with everyone in production line present and then after verification, some 2 to 3 days to a week later, the 100 are made |
| 14:27.03 | PoWeRKiLL | yes exactly |
| 14:27.13 | lkcl | well, that's applications-level, and i'm not so hot on that kind of thing |
| 14:27.35 | lkcl | focus: well, we've got 5 going, so we're onto the next phase |
| 14:28.10 | focus | lkcl: is that with entire production staff present - or just one or two engineers dabling |
| 14:28.47 | focus | lkcl: not to worry I thought 5 is OK! :) |
| 14:30.17 | PoWeRKiLL | What kind of board do you produce ? |
| 14:30.44 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: *deep breath*.... :) |
| 14:30.59 | PoWeRKiLL | :) |
| 14:31.07 | lkcl | start from the links here: |
| 14:31.07 | lkcl | http://slashdot.org/submission/2599017/rhombus-tech-2nd-revision-a10-eoma68-card-working-samples |
| 14:31.33 | focus | PoWeRKiLL: here be mine: http://www.gplsquared.com/SoM2/SoM2.html#11April2013 |
| 14:31.46 | lkcl | and i'm also working on a new standard, http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-200 |
| 14:32.25 | lkcl | focus: from what i understand, that's 5 PCBs auto-populated with SMT machinery |
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| 14:33.05 | focus | lkcl: that be perfect - they went through the entire procedure. |
| 14:33.17 | lkcl | :) |
| 14:33.51 | PoWeRKiLL | I'm talking with electronics genius :D |
| 14:34.02 | lkcl | hack-it more like ha ha |
| 14:36.09 | focus | lkcl: we were all hacking it when we started out :) |
| 14:36.21 | focus | I got so interested I did a degree |
| 14:36.23 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: don't be fooled. there are people out there who've achieved more than i have! |
| 14:36.33 | lkcl | focus: cool. intriguing. |
| 14:36.50 | focus | MIT do online electronics degree free |
| 14:40.58 | PoWeRKiLL | Cloning into telechips-linux... |
| 14:40.59 | PoWeRKiLL | remote: Counting objects: 40010, done. |
| 14:40.59 | PoWeRKiLL | remote: Compressing objects: 100% (36096/36096), done. |
| 14:40.59 | PoWeRKiLL | Receiving objects: 2% (872/40010), 2.00 MiB | 16 KiB/s |
| 14:41.02 | PoWeRKiLL | too slow :( |
| 14:42.13 | PoWeRKiLL | lklc if I already cross compiled it on my ubuntu thanks to this tuts http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/18/building-linux-kernel-3-0-8-for-telechips-tcc8925-mini-pcs-cx-01-z900-tizzbird-n1/ I can copy directly the file right ? |
| 15:00.29 | PoWeRKiLL | lklc i got this FATAL: Could not load /lib/modules/3.0.8/modules.dep: No such file or directory when runing the mkinitramfs :( |
| 15:07.10 | PoWeRKiLL | lklc do I have to use that wget http://www.mdrjr.net/odroid/mirror/BSPs/Alpha4/unpacked/boot.tar.gz ? |
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| 15:42.50 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: use git clone --depth=1 |
| 15:43.31 | lkcl | PoWeRKiLL: NO. don't use that - it's custom-designed for the exynos 4412. DO NOT use it on a different system!! |
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| 16:46.58 | Turl | https://www.edis.at/en/server/colocation/austria/raspberrypi/ |
| 16:47.12 | Turl | free server colocation :P |
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| 19:50.51 | lkcl | could people please help me to track down the VIA OPenbook Creative Commons CAD/CAM files? |
| 19:54.28 | SPG | Antoine master a1f19a1 rhombus allwinner_a10/orders/conorta.mdwn * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=a1f19a1 |
| 19:55.45 | L84Supper | VIA OPenbook Creative Commons CAD/CAM files IIRC were only STL's , no source or even parasolids that you could easily modify |
| 19:57.04 | L84Supper | they were created in Pro/ENGINEER TM Wildfire 2.0 |
| 20:04.49 | L84Supper | you're better off finding someone with tooling for a current enclosure and just making some mods |
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| 20:48.48 | lkcl | L84Supper: ahh ok. hmmm |
| 20:49.40 | lkcl | L84Supper: yehhh, i was hoping to make something that made more sense profile-wise - the kind of thickness of a toshiba ac100 (which is mostly full of air!!) |
| 20:50.35 | lkcl | i don't know if you recall the beautiful-looking CT-PC89e, it was hilarious: there was hardly anything in it, and it was so light that if you opened it up it fell over backwards! |
| 20:51.14 | lkcl | the battery was 2000mAh yet lasted 2 hours+, yet because it was only 150 grammes it wasn't a big enough counterweight to stop the thing falling over! |
| 20:51.57 | lkcl | a beautiful 650 gramme laptop that needed an extra 100 gram lump of metal at the front. talk about irony |
| 20:53.39 | lkcl | anyway: if the VIA CC CAD/CAM files aren't useful then i'll stop looking for them... hmm... or maybe not. i've used programs to re-create 3D files that are alterable by using overlays. you use the STL file as a "ghost". |
| 20:53.44 | lkcl | i'll think about it :) |
| 20:53.47 | lkcl | see what happens |
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| 21:23.50 | L84Supper | the openbook website is gone |
| 21:31.09 | L84Supper | they are native Pro/ENGINEER TM Wildfire 2.0 files |
| 21:47.58 | SPG | lkcl master 9639ce2 rhombus allwinner_a10/order_processing.py * order processing add batch confirmation * http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=9639ce2 |
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