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| 04:37.05 | drachensun | I've got a commit which is too big to email |
| 04:37.23 | drachensun | it adds 4 new wifi drivers from the ionik.de source |
| 04:37.24 | drachensun | https://github.com/npeacock/linux-sunxi/commit/d37e534b012904c9ac69635120a88864a21341b7 |
| 04:40.49 | drachensun | I tried a pull request but that brings along a lot of unrelated baggage from my repo |
| 04:41.30 | drachensun | so anyway, let me know if there is something if anyone else is interested in this and some thoughts on how I might send it |
| 04:42.20 | drachensun | ugh, its too late, I meant "If this is something anyone else is interested in" |
| 04:42.36 | drachensun | I've got a nand driver merge also |
| 04:42.45 | drachensun | but that wont email because a line is too long |
| 04:48.34 | drachensun | never find, it looks like the nand driver merge sent ok |
| 04:48.50 | drachensun | nevermind, ugh I'm going to sleep |
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| 05:16.48 | Triffid_Hunter | drachensun: make a new branch from an upstream branch, then cherry-pick the relevant commits into it, /then/ send a pull req |
| 05:17.15 | Triffid_Hunter | if upstream accepts your pull req, rebase your local branches on top and it'll automatically remove the duplicate commits |
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| 08:17.55 | oliv3r | GOogle working on Android 3.8 kernel now, does that mean we'll have a 3.8 tree soon too? :) |
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| 09:03.15 | libv | drachensun: #linux-sunxi :) |
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| 10:03.00 | dw | excuse my hardware ignorance, but in current generation arm socs, there seems to be some limit of 2GB RAM. i think i read somewhere this was hardware related. is there some complexity or efficiency problem with supporting large physical address space? |
| 10:03.13 | dw | or am i totally imagining this :) |
| 10:03.57 | dw | i guess arm has nothing like PAE, so there's an obvious limit at 4gb |
| 10:04.52 | dw | oh, woah. /me learns about LPAE |
| 10:13.24 | libv | i think a15 is able to use some sort of pae |
| 10:13.34 | libv | and then therefor also a7 |
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| 10:26.55 | mripard | dw: there's actually two things to consider |
| 10:27.17 | mripard | the first one is how much different address you can have on your system |
| 10:28.21 | mripard | this is what set the maximum memory usable to 4GB on a 32bits system |
| 10:28.44 | mripard | and this is what LPAE/PAE is for, to extend the number of addresses you can use, and thus the amount of memory |
| 10:29.11 | mripard | but your hardware also restricts you on how much memory you can use |
| 10:29.40 | dw | mripard: yes its the latter part i don't understand |
| 10:29.47 | mripard | libv: yes, A7 and A15 have LPAE |
| 10:29.59 | mripard | and some marvell SoCs as well |
| 10:30.10 | mripard | and probably some others I'm not aware of |
| 10:31.50 | mripard | dw: there's two thing: your memory controller could handle less than 4GB of RAM |
| 10:32.34 | mripard | or, since most of the devices in a SoC are mapped to a memory address, it restricts also the amount of addresses you could use |
| 10:32.54 | mripard | and this is basically what happens to most of the modern SoCs |
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| 14:55.10 | *** topic/#arm-netbook is arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY - http://rhombus-tech.net |
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| 15:44.34 | w00tc0d3 | omg |
| 15:44.47 | w00tc0d3 | STUPID OPENVZ |
| 15:45.12 | w00tc0d3 | Why can't I find 1GB KVM VPS for 4$ a month?... :( |
| 15:47.07 | rm | because KVM is trickier to oversell than OpenVZ |
| 15:47.28 | rm | have more realistic expectations and you might find something, http://www.lowendbox.com/tag/kvm/ |
| 15:47.32 | rm | also, #lowendbox |
| 15:47.39 | w00tc0d3 | i know that site |
| 15:48.55 | rm | then surely you are subscribed to their RSS and did not miss this? :D http://www.lowendbox.com/blog/front-range-hosting-3-usd-month-512mb-kvm-vps-in-colorado/ |
| 15:49.01 | rm | oh, still 512 |
| 15:49.12 | rm | 1GB is likely really impossible for $4 |
| 15:49.23 | w00tc0d3 | well for that price, IDGAF |
| 15:49.32 | w00tc0d3 | i'll be looking to order one |
| 15:50.19 | w00tc0d3 | oh yeah, ofc, they're sold out |
| 15:51.31 | w00tc0d3 | haha |
| 15:51.31 | w00tc0d3 | 80USD for a VPS |
| 15:51.31 | w00tc0d3 | how naive xD |
| 15:52.08 | w00tc0d3 | well |
| 15:52.25 | w00tc0d3 | TBH I'd think it'd be much cheaper to run a cubieboard here @ home |
| 15:52.42 | w00tc0d3 | how many watt/h is a cubieboard? |
| 15:52.55 | w00tc0d3 | i guess around 5? |
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| 16:44.46 | buZz | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/free-shipping-Dual-core-tablet-pc-8-inch-android-4-0-Capacitive-Screen-4GB-Camera-WIFI/739352999.html |
| 16:44.50 | buZz | A20 device? |
| 16:46.01 | mnemoc | the A20 lets them revive "old" A10 designs |
| 16:46.33 | buZz | yeah, but i thought A20 was still not being shipped? |
| 16:46.48 | buZz | or not on rail yet, still just samples |
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| 16:47.44 | mnemoc | afaik it's expected for march |
| 16:47.51 | buZz | hmm nice |
| 16:49.39 | mnemoc | they haven't re-uploaded the A20 product page yet |
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| 18:39.22 | mnemoc | http://www.iambrix.com/?p=82 ... armbrix was "requested" to rename itself... |
| 18:39.49 | mnemoc | ugly arm :< |
| 18:40.59 | RaYmAn | not really surprising |
| 18:41.07 | mnemoc | true |
| 18:42.27 | mnemoc | how should we call the thing between the shoulder and wrist? |
| 18:42.42 | RaYmAn | i've been told that if you don't actively defend trademarks in us, you risk losing it |
| 18:42.56 | RaYmAn | not exactly same category ;) |
| 18:43.00 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 18:49.02 | RaYmAn | im sure you could get away with calling yourself apple if you only sold apples (the fruit) |
| 18:52.03 | L84Supper | http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/norfolk-apple-shop-changes-name-we-sell-cider-not-ipads-50010447/ |
| 18:53.23 | RaYmAn | yep.they choose to change name |
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| 19:06.47 | traeak | hmmm |
| 19:07.02 | traeak | allwinner a31s with quad cortex a7 and powervr part |
| 19:12.20 | RaYmAn | it finally came out? |
| 19:13.24 | traeak | http://liliputing.com/2013/02/allwinner-launches-quad-core-a31s-cpu-for-phablets.html#comments |
| 19:16.07 | RaYmAn | the specs for that came out at least a month ago if not longer :) |
| 19:16.11 | w00tc0d3 | lol a31s |
| 19:16.24 | w00tc0d3 | they have to launch quad A15 :( |
| 19:16.29 | w00tc0d3 | for a reasonable price |
| 19:16.35 | RaYmAn | oh.. s |
| 19:16.42 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: the 's' variant is new |
| 19:16.58 | mnemoc | less monster display capabilities |
| 19:17.04 | w00tc0d3 | 80 euro at total or something, SATA, Mali T-604, Cortex A15 quad, 2GB RAM. Should be doable for 80 euro, a Cubieboard |
| 19:17.43 | traeak | 64bit baby! |
| 19:17.53 | traeak | (not a15 of course) |
| 19:18.05 | w00tc0d3 | yeah ARMv8 could be kickass |
| 19:18.15 | w00tc0d3 | IF there's compatible software |
| 19:18.33 | traeak | wait one |
| 19:19.18 | traeak | someone has already released an arm64 linux image |
| 19:19.24 | traeak | trying to find that one |
| 19:19.33 | w00tc0d3 | it's for QEMU |
| 19:19.52 | traeak | yeah |
| 19:20.01 | traeak | so of course no specialized drivers |
| 19:20.21 | w00tc0d3 | it's useless as shit |
| 19:20.37 | traeak | you said "if there's compatible software |
| 19:20.41 | w00tc0d3 | only interesting to learn new ARMv8 ARM instrcutions |
| 19:20.42 | traeak | uhh....recompile? :-p |
| 19:20.46 | w00tc0d3 | ASM* |
| 19:21.02 | w00tc0d3 | I meant ASM code etc |
| 19:21.09 | w00tc0d3 | so it becomes quicker |
| 19:23.02 | w00tc0d3 | and GCC also needs to be updated :-P |
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| 21:52.19 | libv | rz2k: odroid is pretty piss-poor |
| 21:52.31 | libv | rz2k: linux-sunxi is nice and easy and pretty complete in comparison |
| 21:52.40 | rz2k | mmm? |
| 21:53.00 | libv | rz2k: you have an odroid as well, right? |
| 21:53.00 | rz2k | and yes |
| 21:53.11 | rz2k | hdmi is v4l2 :// |
| 21:53.19 | rz2k | yeah, the X2 version |
| 21:53.46 | libv | apparently, linux equals ubuntu, and nothing else. |
| 21:53.52 | libv | no docs are there |
| 21:53.55 | buZz | hdmi is v4l2? |
| 21:53.57 | buZz | wtf |
| 21:53.58 | libv | u-boot is a gpl violation |
| 21:54.04 | buZz | how does that work? |
| 21:54.08 | rz2k | thank samsung for that |
| 21:54.19 | libv | whatever docs were there have vanished with this forum crap vanishing |
| 21:54.43 | rz2k | they decided to distribute only signed u-boot |
| 21:54.51 | buZz | hehe lol |
| 21:54.56 | rz2k | after something changed their mind |
| 21:54.59 | buZz | no freedom for you! |
| 21:55.08 | rz2k | for X version you have gpl u-boot |
| 21:55.13 | rz2k | and binary loader for it |
| 21:55.17 | rz2k | no trustzone crap |
| 21:55.40 | libv | i am slowly piecing together info on how to set things up from scratch: http://limadriver.org/OdroidSetup/ |
| 21:56.16 | rz2k | I've updated the mali-400 driver in odroid kernel some time ago |
| 21:56.24 | rz2k | it should both have r3p2 and r2p4 functional |
| 21:56.31 | rz2k | r2p4 using our libs |
| 21:56.53 | rz2k | r3p2 is from odroid and distributed with some lame EULA |
| 21:57.23 | libv | if that eula prohibits REing, then is invalid anyway |
| 21:57.31 | libv | +it |
| 21:57.54 | libv | hey, they ship binary only u-boot. |
| 21:58.22 | rz2k | yeah |
| 21:58.27 | rz2k | I'm not happy with it too |
| 21:58.31 | libv | so what are they going to do :) |
| 21:58.37 | rz2k | no idea |
| 21:58.54 | rz2k | sell stuff to people who dont understand that binary stuff is bad? |
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| 22:00.00 | libv | i really love how they state "community based support" as a selling point |
| 22:00.21 | libv | "help yourselves, you idiots, we cannot be bothered" |
| 22:02.25 | mnemoc | *g* |
| 22:04.40 | libv | rz2k: what are you running on yours btw? |
| 22:04.49 | rz2k | linaro |
| 22:04.53 | rz2k | I'm lame :( |
| 22:05.14 | libv | you just dumped the hardkernel image on an sd? |
| 22:05.36 | rz2k | yeah, and compiled own kernel |
| 22:06.04 | libv | ok, well, i have the thing booting reliably now |
| 22:06.18 | libv | and collected all necessary info on that wiki page |
| 22:06.32 | libv | up next is this v4l lunacy |
| 22:06.41 | libv | and then hopefully mali binaries |
| 22:07.03 | libv | of course, there will be no fb binaries provided |
| 22:07.25 | rz2k | fb6 is hdmi v4l2 |
| 22:07.36 | rz2k | it cant do anything except yuv444 |
| 22:07.47 | libv | ? |
| 22:08.04 | libv | *sigh* |
| 22:08.08 | rz2k | and yes, they only made X11 libs |
| 22:08.19 | libv | rz2k: have you found out what the reset and power buttons are for? |
| 22:08.25 | libv | because they do not seem to do anything for me |
| 22:08.36 | rz2k | power for 5 sec is power-cycle reset |
| 22:08.41 | rz2k | iirc |
| 22:08.50 | libv | that's what i expected |
| 22:09.00 | libv | but i have not observed that behaviour so far |
| 22:09.47 | libv | ah, os is dead |
| 22:10.02 | libv | usb is still powered as my fan is still running. |
| 22:10.20 | libv | ok |
| 22:11.48 | libv | oh well, more complaining tomorrow. night. |
| 22:13.42 | rz2k | good night |
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| 22:18.47 | rz2k | libv: also check this later https://github.com/Gu1-/linux/commits/odroid-3.7.y |
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