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| 00:40.33 | RITRedbeard | colors? |
| 00:40.47 | RITRedbeard | on my IRC network?! |
| 00:40.53 | RITRedbeard | it's more likely than you think. |
| 00:51.34 | lkcl | :) |
| 00:52.09 | lkcl | it's life jim, but not as we know it |
| 00:52.23 | lkcl | there's colour on that page, too.... but watch your eyes... |
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| 00:57.38 | *** topic/#arm-netbook by lkcl -> EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 CPU Card http://rhombus-tech.net/freescale/iMX6/news - Flying Squirre |
| 00:58.32 | lkcl | hmm... buggered that up |
| 00:58.47 | *** topic/#arm-netbook by lkcl -> EOMA: Embedded Open Modular Architecture - Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 CPU Card http://rhombus-tech.net/freescale/iMX6/news - Flying Squirre |
| 00:58.53 | lkcl | achh, too long |
| 00:59.32 | *** topic/#arm-netbook by lkcl -> arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 CPU Card http://rhombus-tech.net/freescale/iMX6/news - Flying Squirrel http://rhombus-tech.net/comm |
| 01:00.25 | *** topic/#arm-netbook by lkcl -> arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - http://elinux.org/Embedded_Open_Modular_Architecture/EOMA-68 - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 CPU Card http://rhombus-tech.net/freescale/iMX6/news - Flying Squirrel http://rhombus-tech.net/comm |
| 01:02.40 | *** topic/#arm-netbook by lkcl -> arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook or http://irclog.whitequark.org/arm-netbook/ - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 EOMA68 CPU Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 EOMA68 CPU Card http://bit.ly/z |
| 01:03.56 | *** topic/#arm-netbook by lkcl -> arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY |
| 01:04.03 | lkcl | yaay |
| 01:04.06 | lkcl | whew |
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| 01:11.02 | *** topic/#arm-netbook by lkcl -> arm-netbook: Don't ask to ask. Just ask! - EOMA68 spec http://bit.ly/ZHqfxA - ML arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk - Logs http://bit.ly/XELKJq or http://bit.ly/15OCYPD - For Allwinner/sunxi discussions prefer #linux-sunxi - iMX6 Card http://bit.ly/XAUGCD - Flying Squirrel http://bit.ly/WgOYaR - Allwinner A10/A20 Card http://bit.ly/zBLAbY - http://rhombus-tech.net |
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| 04:30.28 | Skaag | Is it generally a convention that I have to compile as a module if I want support for something? |
| 04:30.56 | Skaag | for example usblp doesn't show up when I modprobe it, and the printer I hooked up to my A13 is not detected |
| 04:31.13 | Skaag | I had the same issue with the touchscreen module |
| 04:31.29 | Skaag | when it was built into the kernel, it didn't work, but when compiled as a module, it works |
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| 08:47.38 | focus | OMG! Ubuntu now available on dozens of tablets and phones! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices#Work_in_progress |
| 08:48.13 | focus | Original link http://liliputing.com/2013/02/ubuntu-touch-preview-daily-builds-now-available-for-phones-tablets.html |
| 08:48.59 | RaYmAn | they just link to xda though, lol |
| 08:49.25 | RaYmAn | (incidentally, it should be trivial to port it to *any* cyanogenmod supported device) |
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| 08:52.06 | focus | RaYmAn: is it Ubuntu proper that is running or is it something on top of Dalvik/Android? |
| 08:53.05 | RaYmAn | it is ubuntu proper |
| 08:53.10 | focus | Wow! |
| 08:53.14 | RaYmAn | The graphics drivers are just hacked in through android |
| 08:53.47 | RaYmAn | (it's a fancy linker hack that allows glibc based programs to load the bionic based graphics drivers) |
| 08:54.56 | focus | Hmmm - does that mean A10 could probably run ubuntu proper? :) - please say yes... |
| 08:55.07 | RaYmAn | theoretically |
| 08:55.16 | focus | yeaaaa! |
| 08:55.27 | RaYmAn | can't it already though? |
| 08:55.38 | RaYmAn | without hacky android shit mingled? |
| 08:55.52 | rm | define |
| 08:55.53 | rm | "proper" |
| 08:56.14 | RaYmAn | ubuntu itself is running natively and it accesses the screen directly |
| 08:56.27 | RaYmAn | (as opposed to running in a chroot and allowing access over vnc to localhost) |
| 08:56.42 | focus | A10 runs linaro as far as I know, but lots of work with pengpod to make it easy to use |
| 08:57.27 | focus | The ubuntu team sorting all that out - still not there yet - for example, to log in requires real keyboard!! :( |
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| 08:58.05 | focus | RaYmAn: +1 proper |
| 08:58.27 | rm | you could download a number of distros that run natively and access the screen directly |
| 08:58.45 | rm | including Ubuntu https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/1 |
| 08:59.15 | rm | and the post says it was created "9 months ago" |
| 08:59.46 | RaYmAn | with 3d accel? (9 motnhs ago?) |
| 08:59.46 | rm | but yeah, none of those were tablet-optimized out of the box |
| 08:59.50 | rm | if that's what you meant |
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| 09:00.05 | rm | RaYmAn, who said anything about 3D accel? :) |
| 09:00.23 | RaYmAn | it was implied :P |
| 09:00.25 | RaYmAn | 'proper' |
| 09:00.39 | rm | <rm> define "proper" |
| 09:00.40 | rm | <RaYmAn> ubuntu itself is running natively and it accesses the screen directly |
| 09:00.46 | rm | then that wasn't a complete definition :) |
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| 09:01.46 | focus | rm: I tested those distros, and for whatever reason they were unusable, only the linaro was usable and I managed to do a lot with it http://www.gplsquared.com/mk802/mk802.html |
| 09:02.19 | RaYmAn | rm: meh :P It's super easy to get most ubuntu dists running on any arm board with fbdev |
| 09:02.35 | rm | exactly |
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| 13:44.40 | fossxplorer | Hi |
| 13:45.49 | fossxplorer | There are news about an upcoming Quad Core Exynos device: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/26/f9-android-set-top-box-features-samsung-exynos-4412-processor/ |
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| 14:36.47 | L84Supper | http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Unii-GK802-Fresscale-i-MX6-Quad-Dure-Cortex-A9-DDR3-1GB-RAM-8GB-ROM-TV-Box-Dongle----Black-312807.html |
| 14:36.57 | L84Supper | only $93 |
| 14:37.21 | L84Supper | any news on the pricing for the Quad Core Exynos device? |
| 14:38.53 | L84Supper | no SATA on either device :( |
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| 16:39.53 | fossxplorer | Exynos device is coming soon |
| 16:40.05 | fossxplorer | So i've not seen the device for sale nor the price |
| 16:41.09 | fossxplorer | GK802 i getting cheaper likely because the F9 is coming |
| 16:41.15 | fossxplorer | I'd rather go for F9 |
| 16:41.26 | RaYmAn | F9? |
| 16:41.35 | fossxplorer | http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/02/26/f9-android-set-top-box-features-samsung-exynos-4412-processor/ |
| 16:42.06 | fossxplorer | get 13132 to 13500 in Antutu :) |
| 16:42.43 | RaYmAn | I don't see any price mentioned anywhere |
| 16:42.48 | fossxplorer | Nope |
| 16:43.09 | fossxplorer | should not be too much above GK802's |
| 16:43.29 | fossxplorer | IMHO, 100 bucks for GK802 is too much |
| 16:43.56 | rm | agreed |
| 16:44.06 | rm | remember that the old A10 MK802 started at $74 |
| 16:44.13 | fossxplorer | Ha, that's crazy |
| 16:44.24 | RaYmAn | performance should be well, four times better ;P |
| 16:44.27 | rm | and became a hit even for that price (well, many thousands of orders) |
| 16:44.30 | rm | now it's $35 |
| 16:44.32 | fossxplorer | I wasn't "into" Android devices at that time :) |
| 16:44.52 | fossxplorer | what a price drop |
| 16:45.12 | rm | yes |
| 16:45.22 | rm | and it also gained RAM |
| 16:45.27 | rm | 512 -> 1GB |
| 16:45.32 | fossxplorer | Also when i comes to quality and warranty...you are left on your own |
| 16:45.50 | fossxplorer | It's part of the game of Chinese products |
| 16:46.17 | fossxplorer | I'm not saying Chinese products are necessarily bad, but there is a difference! |
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| 16:53.29 | buZz | ehr |
| 16:53.44 | buZz | most chinese sellers i have done business with just give warranty? |
| 16:53.57 | buZz | wonders what dubious sellers fossxplorer uses |
| 16:54.30 | buZz | most even just send a new device when the old is not working, without asking returns |
| 16:54.37 | mnemoc | problem with chinese retailers is that shipping things back is awfully expensive |
| 16:55.13 | mnemoc | i've also got new devices sent just by showing pictures of the defect |
| 16:55.35 | buZz | they are really friendly |
| 16:55.45 | buZz | better than the deaththreats i've gotten from US sellers :D |
| 16:55.52 | mnemoc | uh |
| 16:56.51 | fossxplorer | buZz, mnemoc is point + some blame on you for broken devices i've read on web |
| 16:57.25 | fossxplorer | yeah, i don't have any personal experience yet, but read some dreadful stories on forums |
| 16:57.55 | buZz | you are blaming me for broken devices? O_o |
| 16:58.01 | fossxplorer | buZz, which stores do you guys buy from. I've only bought stuff from dx.com |
| 16:58.16 | buZz | ebay, aliexpress |
| 16:58.27 | buZz | cubieboard.org :) |
| 16:58.41 | fossxplorer | So aliexpress is trustable? |
| 16:58.47 | buZz | why wouldnt it be? |
| 16:58.57 | mnemoc | focalprice, priceangels and lightake are great too |
| 16:59.08 | mnemoc | fossxplorer: aliexpress is the most trustworthy of all |
| 16:59.10 | fossxplorer | you can't trust chinese online sellers blindly, can you? |
| 16:59.25 | mnemoc | fossxplorer: sellers don't get paid until you are happy |
| 16:59.28 | buZz | it helps to be able to make concious decisions |
| 16:59.37 | fossxplorer | yeah |
| 16:59.47 | buZz | and not just read something on a forum and assume it to be true in 100% of cases |
| 16:59.55 | fossxplorer | mnemoc, that means there is some sort of holding back payment? |
| 17:00.11 | mnemoc | fossxplorer: yes. until you receive the product and report to be happy with it |
| 17:00.32 | fossxplorer | mnemoc, that sounds like a good way to buy stuff |
| 17:00.46 | mnemoc | but very stressful for seller |
| 17:00.47 | mnemoc | s |
| 17:01.05 | fossxplorer | I hope F9 will be available at aliexpress :) |
| 17:01.11 | mnemoc | also, your feedback has direct impact on the future of that seller |
| 17:01.13 | buZz | what is an F9? |
| 17:01.28 | fossxplorer | see link above |
| 17:01.34 | buZz | dont have a browser :P |
| 17:01.48 | buZz | ah |
| 17:01.53 | buZz | settop box using old exynos |
| 17:01.56 | mnemoc | a mele-like device made with exynos4 |
| 17:02.04 | buZz | why buy exynos4 ow |
| 17:02.05 | buZz | now* |
| 17:02.15 | buZz | exynos5 is coming sooooooooon |
| 17:02.29 | fossxplorer | then you gotta wait rest of your life |
| 17:02.53 | buZz | thats not so long |
| 17:03.02 | fossxplorer | When exynos5 devices hit chinese market, then there a new chips already on market i guess |
| 17:03.24 | fossxplorer | exynos5 is already in ArmBrix, but the shipping from Korea is another story |
| 17:03.41 | fossxplorer | IMHO, way to much of shipping costs |
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| 17:04.25 | fossxplorer | Back |
| 17:04.37 | buZz | i guess you are quite young fossxplorer ;) |
| 17:04.56 | fossxplorer | what makes you say that? |
| 17:05.26 | fossxplorer | Age doesn't matter when i say $30 for shipping is too much for a device that costs $100 |
| 17:05.35 | buZz | no i didnt refer to that |
| 17:05.38 | buZz | just general |
| 17:05.41 | buZz | doesnt matter |
| 17:05.44 | fossxplorer | :) |
| 17:05.49 | fossxplorer | I'm not "young" |
| 17:06.43 | fossxplorer | Anyone here with MK808B? |
| 17:06.59 | fossxplorer | thinking to buy http://www.aliexpress.com/item/MK808B-with-BLUETOOTH-Mini-PC-Android-TV-box-4-1-Dual-Core-1-6-GHz-RAM/720606501.html to test out |
| 17:07.17 | fossxplorer | Not sure if that can run Linux |
| 17:07.33 | fossxplorer | vs the MK808 which i know can |
| 17:08.38 | buZz | what chip is in it? |
| 17:08.45 | fossxplorer | rk3066 |
| 17:08.53 | buZz | google rk3066 linux |
| 17:09.23 | fossxplorer | IIRC, that's got no HW XBMC support in Linux, but in Android |
| 17:09.30 | buZz | i think the rk devices are quite brickable |
| 17:09.39 | fossxplorer | buZz, picuntu supports that |
| 17:10.13 | buZz | well, then you answered your own question |
| 17:10.48 | fossxplorer | but there are some differences on mk808 vs 808b |
| 17:11.30 | buZz | of course |
| 17:11.36 | buZz | its a totally different device |
| 17:11.41 | fossxplorer | https://code.google.com/p/rk3066-linux/#Hardware_Tested |
| 17:11.46 | buZz | oh wait, not 802 |
| 17:11.50 | buZz | still dont have a browser |
| 17:11.54 | fossxplorer | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:11.58 | fossxplorer | Hehe |
| 17:12.22 | fossxplorer | 808 and 808B are based mostly on the same HW |
| 17:12.30 | buZz | but? |
| 17:12.55 | fossxplorer | there could be some differences like the WIFI chip, bluetooth e.g |
| 17:13.22 | buZz | could be?? |
| 17:13.26 | fossxplorer | yes |
| 17:13.32 | buZz | you are not certain? |
| 17:13.38 | fossxplorer | i need to confirm if ^ works with Linux |
| 17:13.46 | fossxplorer | Nope, that's why i'm asking |
| 17:13.55 | SPG | 03lkcl 05master e0f2a22 06rhombus 10community_ideas/kde_tablet/pcb_development.mdwn * 14http://git.hands.com/?p=rhombus.git;a=commitdiff;h=e0f2a22 |
| 17:14.10 | fossxplorer | But 808 looks like a sure bet to run Linux |
| 17:21.15 | buZz | is waiting for hardkernel to make an odroid-u3 with exynos5octa |
| 17:21.47 | fossxplorer | buZz, yeah, that would be awesome release! |
| 17:22.00 | buZz | its coming ;) |
| 17:22.03 | rm | > exynos5octa |
| 17:22.06 | rm | and 1 GB of RAM! |
| 17:22.07 | fossxplorer | for sure? |
| 17:22.10 | rm | mwahahahaha~ |
| 17:22.11 | rm | :) |
| 17:22.12 | buZz | well, at least exynos5 |
| 17:22.18 | buZz | according to hardkernel |
| 17:22.21 | fossxplorer | why not at least 2GB ram? |
| 17:22.35 | buZz | because a lot of these devices have 1GB ram as max ;) |
| 17:22.44 | rm | I dunno, I was just kidding, is it really going to be 1GB of RAM? :O |
| 17:22.52 | buZz | dno, havent asked :) |
| 17:23.08 | buZz | i know Allwinner A10 doesnt support over 1GB ram |
| 17:23.18 | fossxplorer | too bad |
| 17:23.44 | fossxplorer | Any links to your rumors about U3? |
| 17:23.51 | buZz | just chat in #odroid |
| 17:23.58 | buZz | hardkernel visits that channel aswell |
| 17:24.12 | fossxplorer | ok |
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