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| 00:37.13 | TestModule_ | Is USB (mouse) support not baked in in defconfig? |
| 00:37.31 | TestModule_ | it's getting power but not data over a hub that's on the OTG port |
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| 04:44.24 | TestModule_ | My mk802 1gb is showing 306MB total in free -m, but i edited the fex and i'm using the mini-x-1gb uboot >.> |
| 04:51.32 | WarheadsSE | doesn't the SPL setup the ram, though |
| 04:53.25 | TestModule_ | Where does the BSP put that? Is it supposed to be in a sep partition or in with the script.bin / u-boot? |
| 04:56.25 | WarheadsSE | it gets written to block 8 |
| 04:56.31 | WarheadsSE | it's on the wiki. |
| 05:00.16 | TestModule_ | I don't see that within the partitions, or the file within either |
| 05:05.07 | rm | because it is not a file |
| 05:05.26 | rm | it is written with 'dd' directly to the SD card, into space before the first partition |
| 05:05.34 | rm | https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi/wiki |
| 05:05.40 | TestModule_ | During the uboot |
| 05:05.46 | TestModule_ | Which i set to mini-x-1gb |
| 05:06.13 | TestModule_ | so if it's pulling the info from the config and not the manual input, is that not a bug? |
| 05:06.39 | rm | how do you "set it to"? |
| 05:07.48 | TestModule_ | make mini-x-1gb CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf- |
| 05:08.06 | TestModule_ | whilst set after an interupt |
| 05:08.27 | TestModule_ | I did as told |
| 05:10.05 | rm | told by whom/where |
| 05:10.06 | rm | make of what |
| 05:10.09 | rm | of which sources |
| 05:10.20 | rm | you give zero details, just some scraps of I dunno what |
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| 06:14.16 | libv | hrm, colours suck. |
| 06:15.55 | libv | is that telling us that maybe linux-sunxi should not happen in the eoma channel of #arm-netbook? |
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| 06:29.43 | TestModule_ | rm -> HNO |
| 06:35.29 | rm | I could point out that you answered only 1 out of 4 questions I asked |
| 06:36.33 | rm | but to not waste more time on this, I will guess that you are probably following something like http://linux-sunxi.org/First_Steps |
| 06:36.50 | rm | sorry, http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps * |
| 06:37.20 | rm | this "make" command is executed in a directory with the u-boot source code |
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| 06:37.59 | rm | so if you scroll down the instruction, the actual installation of the U-boot SPL and U-boot that you have built, is: |
| 06:38.03 | rm | dd if=/home/blah/bleh/u-boot-sunxi/spl/sunxi-spl.bin of=/dev/mmcblkx bs=1024 seek=8 |
| 06:38.03 | rm | dd if=/home/blah/bleh/u-boot-sunxi/u-boot.bin of=/dev/mmcblkx bs=1024 seek=32 |
| 06:38.12 | rm | have you done both of those |
| 06:38.15 | rm | ? |
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| 07:36.26 | TestModule_ | It should be in the BSP |
| 07:36.29 | TestModule_ | rm |
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| 08:09.35 | br- | anyone know of an eink controller with a usb interface? |
| 08:09.54 | br- | thinking of a neat hack involving a framed eink display to act as a hanging calendar |
| 08:10.03 | br- | (tied to internetty calendars) |
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| 08:17.19 | RaYmAn | not as fun, but I suspect it might be easier/cheaper to get a hackable ereader and do it on that =P |
| 08:17.58 | br- | seems i.mx6 has integrated EPD |
| 08:18.46 | br- | RaYmAn: looks like you're right |
| 08:19.07 | br- | would be super neat to have something solar powered that woke up once an hour or something |
| 08:19.19 | br- | no input, just static display |
| 08:19.59 | RaYmAn | with a cheap ereader you could even have simple touch input |
| 08:23.13 | rm | TestModule_, if you are using a BSP, do you really need to also compile u-boot yourself... |
| 08:23.35 | TestModule_ | uhhhh yes. |
| 08:23.50 | TestModule_ | because of the RAM |
| 08:24.44 | rm | as WarheadsSE said above the RAM might be handled by SPL |
| 08:25.16 | rm | SPL should be also created when you compile u-boot, no? |
| 08:25.27 | TestModule_ | Since i cannot do this the BSP way then, how is it corrected (both parts)? |
| 08:25.40 | TestModule_ | Here is what i see |
| 08:25.42 | TestModule_ | two partitions |
| 08:25.55 | TestModule_ | first one, fat, script.bin , u-boot, uimage |
| 08:26.08 | TestModule_ | 2nd, filesystem + hwpack mali , etc |
| 08:26.11 | TestModule_ | that's it |
| 08:26.37 | rm | u-boot is not in a partition |
| 08:26.58 | rm | it's placed in the gap between the disk start and the first partition |
| 08:27.04 | rm | first the SPL, then U-boot there |
| 08:40.57 | TestModule_ | i know i can see it rm |
| 08:41.57 | TestModule_ | i can't see the gap, so if you can tell me how to just dd to that block, that would be great |
| 08:42.08 | TestModule_ | i know where it is |
| 08:42.19 | TestModule_ | i don't know what needs to be there vs what is there |
| 08:42.44 | TestModule_ | or why it did that in the first place given the edited fex which i thought identified which spl |
| 08:42.49 | TestModule_ | or what in the spl |
| 08:42.58 | rm | <rm> so if you scroll down the instruction, the actual installation of the U-boot SPL and U-boot that you have built, is: |
| 08:42.58 | rm | <rm> dd if=/home/blah/bleh/u-boot-sunxi/spl/sunxi-spl.bin of=/dev/mmcblkx bs=1024 seek=8 |
| 08:42.58 | rm | <rm> dd if=/home/blah/bleh/u-boot-sunxi/u-boot.bin of=/dev/mmcblkx bs=1024 seek=32 |
| 08:42.58 | rm | <rm> have you done both of those |
| 08:42.58 | rm | <rm> ? |
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| 08:50.12 | TestModule_ | yes, but it is incorrect |
| 09:07.08 | TestModule_ | Not the method, but the result |
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| 09:25.17 | RaYmAn | so by any chance, anyone have a tegra2 or tegra3 devboard/device with JTAG access? :P |
| 09:40.18 | libv | RaYmAn: they were handing out tegra2s like candy mints at embedded world in nue last march |
| 09:40.37 | libv | http://www.toradex.com/products/colibri-arm-modules/colibri-arm-computer-modules/colibri-t20 |
| 09:42.46 | libv | you'll have to dig through its datasheets to find whether it has jtag exposed or not |
| 09:42.59 | RaYmAn | yeah, I have far too many tegra devices already, but no JTAG :( I just need a dump of some stuff tbh |
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| 10:24.41 | mnemoc | any comments regarding merging the stage branches? |
| 10:53.29 | rm | TestModule_, I just tested this for myself |
| 10:53.42 | TestModule_ | and? |
| 10:53.45 | rm | downloaded and unpacked http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/sunxi-3.0/latest/a10_mid_1gb_hwpack.tar.xz |
| 10:53.53 | TestModule_ | i'm running 3.4 |
| 10:53.56 | rm | got the bootloader/*.bin files from there |
| 10:54.08 | rm | wrote them to my SD card as mentioned above |
| 10:54.14 | rellla | mnemoc: haven't tried the latest, but so far no issues here with (3.0) |
| 10:54.19 | rm | and after a reboot I got 1 GB of RAM instead of 512 |
| 10:54.32 | rm | TestModule_, the kernel version is irrelevant, u-boot and u-boot SPL are the same |
| 10:54.53 | TestModule_ | i did it right because i literally copy/pasted from HNO |
| 10:55.06 | TestModule_ | literally whilst submitting the 1gb MK802 info |
| 10:55.07 | mnemoc | rellla: when was your last update of stage? |
| 10:55.38 | buZz | hmmm, what about iMX6 ? |
| 10:55.43 | buZz | is it a nice platform? |
| 10:55.48 | rm | TestModule_, you seem to be more interesed in proving that you are "right" or you are doing it "correctly", rather than solving the problem... |
| 10:55.54 | mnemoc | buZz: yes |
| 10:56.14 | rm | why do you compile u-boot in the first place? there is a pre-compiled one with 1GB of RAM support, by the link I posted above |
| 10:56.33 | TestModule_ | because it is flawed, as stated by HNO |
| 10:56.46 | buZz | hmmm |
| 10:56.54 | buZz | not so many imx6 devices on aliexpress |
| 10:57.05 | rm | mkay, wait for hno then, maybe he will be able to help you better :) |
| 10:57.13 | TestModule_ | which is why he told me to use the mini-x one |
| 10:57.44 | mnemoc | buZz: the hi802 is kind of the only one :p |
| 10:58.03 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: there are a few tablets as well afaik |
| 10:58.19 | buZz | mnemoc: well i am hunting for a 'debian-capable tablet' |
| 10:58.29 | rm | MiniX has 512 MB of RAM http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/07/minix-tv-box-lets-run-android-linux-tv/ |
| 10:58.45 | mnemoc | rm: there is a 1GB model too |
| 10:59.29 | rm | in any case, when something is labeled just "MiniX" it is unsafe to assume it's the 1GB variant |
| 10:59.36 | mnemoc | true |
| 11:00.23 | mnemoc | TestModule_: http://linux-sunxi.org/Submitting_Boards |
| 11:00.35 | TestModule_ | did already |
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| 11:01.00 | mnemoc | TestModule_: name? |
| 11:01.01 | TestModule_ | you were here |
| 11:01.29 | TestModule_ | no idea. i sent the info in a pastebin and a wikisend.com to HNO |
| 11:01.34 | TestModule_ | in this chat |
| 11:01.46 | TestModule_ | he said ok, downloaded, said my script.bin was shit because of the pmu being fubar |
| 11:02.07 | TestModule_ | said someone would add a 1gb |
| 11:02.07 | rellla | mnemoc: oops. seems that my version of stage has already been merged... so no feedback from me. |
| 11:02.51 | mnemoc | rellla: :< |
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| 11:09.56 | hno | TestModule_, what are you trying to do? |
| 11:10.35 | TestModule_ | replace the spl of a mk802 1gb that shows up as 1gb |
| 11:11.09 | TestModule_ | right now it is at 512 (306) |
| 11:12.33 | rellla | mnemoc: imo https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/issues/102 could be closed. someone should provide a patch to fix the fex-file and remove the emac_power-line. |
| 11:13.07 | rellla | on my boxes and on ml, it was reported to work. |
| 11:13.52 | mnemoc | rellla: it's kind of disturbing to need to take that out... |
| 11:14.03 | mnemoc | emac_power is supposed to be a real thing |
| 11:14.25 | mnemoc | and NULL/undefined if not wired |
| 11:14.53 | mnemoc | but in your cases the .fex was explicitly pointing out of a GPIO |
| 11:14.59 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:16.56 | rellla | in mele_a1000g.fex -> emac_power = "" |
| 11:16.56 | rellla | in cubieboard.fex -> no emac_power - line |
| 11:17.09 | rellla | so what is it for? |
| 11:17.56 | mnemoc | iirc the hackberry and others use a gpio to enable/disable the PHY |
| 11:18.33 | mnemoc | unless they disabled it in source and "forgot" to remove the line from .fex |
| 11:26.07 | Gumboot | Who owns the linux-sunxi.org wiki? Can it be modified to accept .patch files? |
| 11:28.13 | mnemoc | Gumboot: would prefer to get "patches" commited instead of attached |
| 11:28.39 | Gumboot | Patches against third-party code. |
| 11:31.48 | Gumboot | Bad ones. |
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| 11:32.12 | mnemoc | Gumboot: try |
| 11:35.13 | Gumboot | Try to upstream a bad patch into third-party code? |
| 11:35.55 | mnemoc | try to upload the patch to the wiki |
| 11:36.02 | Gumboot | Javascript stopped me. |
| 11:36.08 | Gumboot | Oh, or have you changed it? |
| 11:36.18 | mnemoc | yes. try |
| 11:37.42 | Gumboot | Yep, cool, that worked. |
| 11:40.38 | mnemoc | gut |
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| 11:56.37 | buZz | hehe hansg |
| 11:56.47 | buZz | i saw you also bought an OYO ebookreader :D |
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| 12:00.31 | RaYmAn | Gumboot: do you happen to know if the bootrom is protected from being read back on tegra2/3? :P The TRM's indicates access should be possible, but having issues accessing anything past the first page :( (it reads back as the hex equivalent of 'b .' instruction) |
| 12:00.58 | Guest53385 | Hi all, If the new A31 tablet still use text-based configuration file for boot device/pin selection like A10, and we can get UART/JTAG using microsd? |
| 12:01.38 | RaYmAn | it definitely still uses script.bin if that's what you mean (someone posted one on the mailing list) |
| 12:02.24 | Guest53385 | RaYmAn, thank you. sorry for my english |
| 12:02.51 | Guest53385 | RaYmAn, i will check the port right now |
| 12:03.12 | Guest53385 | i will check the post right now |
| 12:04.38 | RaYmAn | oh, wasn't ml actually, https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-tools/issues/9 |
| 12:09.45 | Guest53385 | RaYmAn, thanks. |
| 12:10.28 | Gumboot | RaYmAn: Haven't looked at bootloader stuff, sorry. |
| 12:12.12 | RaYmAn | Gumboot: okay, np - was worth a shot :) Also attempted bothering srwarren about it, but he hasn't responded yet |
| 12:12.32 | Guest53385 | it seems A31 will still use script.bin, so we can still get UART/JTAG by using pin on MicroSD slot, am i right? |
| 12:12.52 | RaYmAn | assuming they haven't changed pinmux configuration too much |
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| 12:14.31 | Guest53385 | RaYmAn, Is it will clear when datasheet of A31 is available? |
| 12:18.02 | RaYmAn | I don't think they ever release the datasheet for a10 publicly, so no. iirc it was leaked |
| 12:18.11 | mnemoc | only if a device manufacturer decides to share it |
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| 12:19.26 | slapin | is there any AW CPU in -40 +60 C thermal range? |
| 12:19.53 | slapin | wants to start a new project to replace s3c24xx |
| 12:21.26 | mnemoc | slapin: will need to ask wits |
| 12:22.06 | hansg | buzz, yeh but I plan to just use it as an (extra) e-reader not to do much hacking on it, the A1x stuff takes all of my spare time already ... |
| 12:22.45 | mnemoc | hansg: any feeling regarding a merge of the stage branches? |
| 12:24.02 | hansg | mnemoc, let me check what is in there ... |
| 12:28.17 | buZz | hansg: thats fine ;) i think there are many in hands of ppl that do want to do something like that with it |
| 12:28.47 | hansg | mnemoc, go for it :) |
| 12:31.02 | mnemoc | hansg: cool |
| 12:33.15 | slapin | can anybody advice non-crap laptop? with RS232 included? |
| 12:33.27 | mnemoc | rs232??? |
| 12:33.42 | slapin | mnemoc: yes the requirement |
| 12:33.49 | rellla | buZz: do you have cedarx working with vlc or xbmc? |
| 12:33.53 | hansg | slapin, better to just buy a *good* usb <-> rs232 converter |
| 12:34.02 | mnemoc | +1 |
| 12:34.10 | buZz | rellla: with vlc |
| 12:34.21 | rellla | ok. and none of the reported issues? |
| 12:34.23 | mnemoc | has a nice usb to 4xDB9 |
| 12:34.29 | slapin | hansg: such things doesn't exist and is too tender for field work |
| 12:34.31 | buZz | which are the reported issues? |
| 12:34.53 | hansg | So none of that chinese crap. And in general anything below 20 usd is crap |
| 12:35.08 | buZz | mnemoc: at the hackerspace we have some usb to 16x DB9 device, totally bizar :P |
| 12:35.15 | buZz | 1U 19" device |
| 12:35.20 | hansg | slapin, such a thing does exist, and to tender for field work is sort of a non argument |
| 12:35.46 | mnemoc | uh |
| 12:36.01 | buZz | rellla: i dont see any actual problem on that page |
| 12:36.16 | hansg | has been dissecting a lot of usb <-> serial converters since they need special handling wrt usb redirection to a vm |
| 12:36.17 | rellla | buZz: e.g. http://linux-sunxi.org/CedarXVideoRenderingChart sample 4+7+8? i haven't tried vlc, but xbmc (empat0) runs in productive state. |
| 12:36.18 | mnemoc | slapin: http://dx.com/p/z-tek-ze552-usb-2-0-to-4-x-rs232-serial-adapter-cable-black-118302 |
| 12:36.23 | buZz | rellla: all those 'issues' are just facts, questions or weird stuff |
| 12:36.39 | buZz | rellla: ah, i just tried some samples i found on my harddrive |
| 12:36.51 | buZz | i dont really even desire to play 1080p video :P |
| 12:37.16 | buZz | i could try those samples this evening if you want? |
| 12:37.58 | buZz | rellla: anyway, all the tools using CedarX use the exact same decoding, so if a video doesnt work in one player, it will not work in all players |
| 12:42.45 | rellla | buZz: imo it's not clear, if the binary is broken, or it's faulty implemented in e.g. xbmc. |
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| 12:42.53 | slapin | mnemoc: ast lenovo e43 was killed by field people and I need something new. USB stuff just dies too fast and can't br relied upon. |
| 12:43.05 | slapin | s/ ast/last/ |
| 12:43.38 | buZz | rellla: for me its clear, CedarX has limited support, the XBMC people wanted better support, Allwinner said 'oh sure!' and then later said 'HAHAHA FOOLED YOU' and now XBMC devs are pissed like some teenage girl |
| 12:44.55 | rellla | buZz: anyway. most of the codecs work. at least the most common. surely it would be better for devs to have some sources. |
| 12:45.03 | rellla | gimli not here ^^ ;-) |
| 12:45.15 | buZz | well of course it would be better, but very NOT plausible |
| 12:45.41 | buZz | its like asking McDonalds for the recipe for their Special Sauce |
| 12:45.45 | buZz | it would be nice to have |
| 12:45.50 | buZz | but not likely you will get it |
| 12:46.05 | libv | not all is bad in the userspace driver world, i am now hitting 212fps for the spinning companion cube while the gles2 equivalent on the binary drivers are hitting 145 :) |
| 12:46.06 | slapin | buZz: or want it knowing what's inside... |
| 12:46.14 | andoma | libv: \o/ |
| 12:46.16 | buZz | libv: sweet :) |
| 12:46.39 | buZz | any idea when lima driver will be usuable? :D |
| 12:46.41 | libv | limare is not a driver though, so it can cut corners that the opengles2 driver cannot |
| 12:46.48 | slapin | hates compainon cube |
| 12:47.02 | libv | i will soon stop the research phase and start implementing an actual driver |
| 12:47.08 | buZz | awesome |
| 12:47.17 | slapin | cool |
| 12:48.04 | libv | but it is still nice to have higher performance than the original driver, this means that no secrets are there or have been overlooked |
| 12:48.42 | libv | we could be just as fast in free software as with the binary blobs |
| 12:48.49 | libv | but of course, mesa will try to work against that |
| 12:49.14 | libv | and we have the proof in hand to stop moping, and actually go and fix mesa :) |
| 12:50.25 | rellla | buZz: i'm good with libs, as long you can fit them together with some wrapper and get a working result. the result. is good enough for me here. |
| 12:50.26 | rellla | anyway, someone should test, if the problem-sample-files work with mxplayer/android, so libcedar can basically handle them... |
| 12:50.41 | rellla | s/libs/binarys/ |
| 12:51.00 | buZz | mxplayer doesnt use CedarX |
| 12:51.20 | buZz | the 'hw accel' in mxplayer is just NEON |
| 12:51.33 | rellla | ah. |
| 12:52.14 | rellla | so all the a10-android- video-hw accel is based on NEON? |
| 12:52.22 | buZz | what? |
| 12:52.27 | buZz | which is 'all' ? |
| 12:52.46 | rellla | video decoding |
| 12:52.54 | buZz | which? |
| 12:53.34 | rellla | how is the decoding of h264-files handled on a10 devices running android? |
| 12:54.15 | buZz | maybe through stagefright? |
| 12:54.16 | buZz | http://linux-sunxi.org/Stagefright |
| 12:54.22 | buZz | i dont know, i dont run android |
| 12:58.55 | buZz | rellla: http://linux-sunxi.org/CedarX#Benefits_to_Allwinner.27s_CedarX_technology_and_libraries: |
| 12:59.10 | buZz | rellla: that mentions that all the interfacing happens within the media player |
| 13:02.47 | rellla | i wanted to say, that i would be interested, if this files work with this media player, or if there is also an error in implementation or cedarx-code. |
| 13:03.36 | buZz | well, go boot android then :P |
| 13:03.48 | rellla | ;) |
| 13:03.49 | buZz | i really doubt the latter |
| 13:04.03 | buZz | (that there is an error with implementation) |
| 13:04.37 | rellla | me too |
| 13:05.02 | buZz | i discovered that WMV9 files for example work fine with CedarX |
| 13:05.06 | buZz | but WMV8 files dont |
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| 13:09.00 | rellla | why do you think, they don't? regarding to docs, libcedar should be able to handle it. |
| 13:09.47 | buZz | they dont what? |
| 13:10.08 | buZz | wait, which doc are you talking about? |
| 13:11.08 | rellla | https://github.com/linux-sunxi/cedarx-libs/blob/master/doc/Libve%20User%20Guide-2011.7.6.pdf |
| 13:11.57 | buZz | ah didnt read that |
| 13:14.25 | buZz | i dont see conclusively mentioned in that file which codecs with which parameters are supported |
| 13:14.40 | buZz | just saying 'MPEG4' doesnt say anything about it |
| 13:15.08 | buZz | like they say > In MPEG4 decoder, we implement several standards |
| 13:15.09 | buZz | such as XVID, DIVX3, DIVX4, DIVX5, H263, VP6 and so on. |
| 13:15.17 | rellla | wmv7/8 is only mentioned in the "preface" |
| 13:15.19 | buZz | mainly those last 3 words ;) |
| 13:15.36 | buZz | yeah the document is totally vague |
| 13:15.47 | buZz | anyway the document is about the interface |
| 13:15.52 | buZz | not about the actual decoding |
| 13:16.17 | rellla | but in the headers you can define a CEDARV_MPEG4_SUB_FORMAT_WMV1 or CEDARV_MPEG4_SUB_FORMAT_WMV1, whatever codec is meant there. |
| 13:17.08 | buZz | > The first version of the codec, WMV 7, was introduced in 1999, and was built upon Microsoft's implementation of MPEG-4 Part 2. |
| 13:18.45 | buZz | so actually, its quote possible that the 1st WMV, WMV7 is called WMV1 by Allwinner, and is actually decoded with the mpeg4 decoder |
| 13:18.52 | buZz | who knows, this document will not tell us |
| 13:20.38 | buZz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Media_Video <- shows you a lot |
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| 13:31.51 | rellla | you probably are right. could be that fourcc is meant. can you check out the fourcc-identifier for your WMV9-file? |
| 13:34.04 | buZz | not now |
| 13:34.09 | buZz | maybe tonight |
| 13:34.30 | rellla | don't hurry and feel free to edit the wiki-chart ;-) |
| 13:34.36 | buZz | ;) |
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| 14:07.26 | slapin | dunno what is wiki-chart |
| 14:11.24 | slapin | that is so cool - you just need to type a lot, say 1-2 obscene workd per minute, and nobody disturbs you thinking you're busy working instead of trying not to fall asleep. |
| 14:24.52 | Workboot | Only 1-2 per minute? |
| 14:25.40 | buZz | hehe |
| 14:25.52 | buZz | we call that 'epibreren' in dutch |
| 14:26.07 | buZz | working really hard at pretending to be working |
| 14:27.20 | Workboot | My old boss back in NZ showed me how to roll up a piece of paper, drop a biro in the middle of it, and hold it in such a way as to prop up your chin while you slept. |
| 14:27.35 | Workboot | The idea was that any disturbance at all would leave everything in position to look like you'd been working all along. |
| 14:28.06 | Workboot | And with no evidence that you had something propping up your chin while you slept. |
| 14:34.28 | slapin | wow, cool technique, I accidentally fell asleep at this workplace several times already - keyboard imprints on face are not nice :( |
| 14:35.52 | slapin | especially my desk is trashed with heaps ov various crappy hardware no one knows from where, so it is dangerous to have uncontrolled sleep these days |
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| 14:37.48 | slapin | and these materials control girls tend to do pranks on sleeping people leaving lipstick spots on face or something more evil |
| 14:38.28 | slapin | needs to hide somewhere and get at least 2hr sleep |
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| 14:40.23 | rm | "no one knows from where" <- I'm going to bet on 'from China' |
| 14:40.24 | rm | :) |
| 14:40.30 | Workboot | Get an out-of-order sign and hang it on a toilet stall door. Then lock yourself in. |
| 14:40.53 | rm | doing things Out-of-Order is useful in CPUs, not so much in toilet |
| 14:41.02 | rm | imagine if you would... err |
| 14:41.03 | rm | ok nevermind |
| 14:41.24 | Workboot | Even more incentive for nobody to open that door! |
| 14:43.34 | slapin | rm: this is domestic hardware, made in Russia, s3c24xx, Wavecom, atmel, telit, Geostar, and damn wtf who knows what, antennas, etc, all in heaps on table, as returning this to store is too much hussle - I will have to explain too much. |
| 14:45.08 | Workboot | Better yet; in some airports they have diagrams onthe doors indicating what kind of toilet it is. Make up your own nonsense diagram and put it on the door to scare people off. |
| 14:45.08 | slapin | Workboot: I've got electric hazard sign somewhere here, for up to 1000V DC, but that requires reader knowledge what that means... |
| 14:45.33 | Workboot | Something acrobatic, perhaps. |
| 14:46.20 | Workboot | With a trapezium and a vertically-mounted seat. |
| 14:47.35 | slapin | Workboot: also I've got one of these "you don't exist, please go away" T-shorts, might hang it on the door, as they all are S-sized |
| 14:48.22 | slapin | probably I can print something on printer and laminate it, but can't find anything creative |
| 14:48.56 | slapin | also I need to think of some excuses for building guards |
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| 16:28.29 | leowt | are AMLogic "hackable"? |
| 16:28.38 | leowt | or is it too closed? |
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| 16:38.02 | drachensun | they opened some source |
| 16:39.24 | drachensun | http://openlinux.amlogic.com/download/linux/GPL_code_release/2012-11-20/ |
| 16:39.51 | drachensun | big gaps between releases |
| 16:40.07 | leowt | i see |
| 16:40.18 | leowt | well, ill keep a10 |
| 16:40.19 | leowt | =P |
| 16:40.20 | leowt | tnks |
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| 16:59.16 | Jonathan_Eyre | I have compiled aosp and have made a system.img and a boot.img. I have also used the A10 linux flash kitchen to create an image based on a working image, and the images I compiled. |
| 16:59.21 | Guest19014 | Hi, all. Is there a way that we can get the pinmux configuration of the running SoC? |
| 17:00.09 | Jonathan_Eyre | I used PhoenixCard to place the livesuit flash kitchen output on my sdcard. The checksums in phoenix said the image was good. |
| 17:00.26 | mnemoc | Guest19014: you mean documentation? http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/A10s/A10s%20Datasheet%20-%20v1.20%20%282012-03-27%29.pdf and http://linux-sunxi.org/A10/PIO |
| 17:01.13 | mnemoc | Guest19014: or you want to read the "current state" of them? |
| 17:01.40 | Guest19014 | mnemoc, sorry, i mean i want to get the "current state" |
| 17:01.51 | Jonathan_Eyre | I then plugged the sdcard into the A10 laptop, and it ran through the installer for about two-three minutes. The green progressbar was going across the screen and there was a constant clicking sound. So it seemed like all was good. |
| 17:01.52 | mnemoc | Guest19014: `pio -m` from sunxi-tools lets you look and play from userspace |
| 17:02.25 | Jonathan_Eyre | Then, I got the error "sprite update error: fail to open part file i@@m" and on the secind line "CARD OK" |
| 17:02.35 | Jonathan_Eyre | Does anyoen know what this error means? |
| 17:02.52 | Guest19014 | mnemoc, thanks, but if not A10 chip, is there a more generic way? |
| 17:03.38 | mnemoc | Guest19014: if your soc is mainlined and properly maintained you can see the pinctrl info in /sys |
| 17:05.49 | Guest19014 | mnemoc, thanks, i found some resources by using the keyword "pinctrl" |
| 17:06.54 | mnemoc | yw |
| 17:11.22 | Jonathan_Eyre | In using the A10 flash kitchen, just extracting and creating an image on the output results in a much smaller image... |
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| 18:50.07 | netchip | hi |
| 18:50.23 | netchip | how can i install kernel-headers (manually) on ARMHF (Debian)? |
| 18:57.00 | netchip | I guess it's make install_headers? ... |
| 18:57.10 | netchip | Although I didn't compile on that phone |
| 18:57.30 | jelly-home | netchip: do you know there's a make deb-pkg |
| 18:57.56 | zumbi | netchip: apt-get install linux-headers ? |
| 18:58.16 | netchip | zumbi, It's a custom rootfs :) |
| 18:58.28 | netchip | jelly-home, nope... |
| 18:59.04 | netchip | zumbi, If I do that, I can choose between OMAP etc, but I have an Exynos :P |
| 18:59.21 | jelly-home | whether it works in a crosscompiling env. is a different thing |
| 18:59.35 | zumbi | it does ;-) |
| 18:59.43 | netchip | well, I can't compile kernel because missing kernel-headers... |
| 18:59.50 | jelly-home | ? |
| 18:59.50 | netchip | Hell, I can't compile anything |
| 19:00.04 | netchip | jelly-home, doesn't compiling things need kernel-headers? |
| 19:00.06 | netchip | because |
| 19:00.19 | netchip | scripts/basic/fixdep.c:106:23: fatal error: sys/types.h: No such file or directory |
| 19:00.23 | netchip | etctera |
| 19:00.25 | netchip | etcetera* |
| 19:00.41 | jelly-home | netchip: no, those are the _result_ of compiling a kernel. You need basic devel packages instead |
| 19:00.50 | zumbi | uhm.. sys/types.h is libc |
| 19:00.57 | jelly-home | on a debian system, you could install build-essential |
| 19:01.13 | netchip | lol.... |
| 19:01.15 | netchip | fails |
| 19:01.18 | zumbi | for sys/types.h install libc6-dev |
| 19:01.28 | netchip | doing build-essential now |
| 19:01.38 | netchip | thanks both |
| 19:01.42 | zumbi | netchip: ooi, which devices is it? |
| 19:01.47 | zumbi | is an arndale board? |
| 19:01.56 | netchip | Samsung Galaxy S3 ;-) |
| 19:02.05 | zumbi | and you got debian on it? |
| 19:02.29 | jelly-home | sounds expensive for a dev board |
| 19:02.42 | netchip | zumbi, chroot for now |
| 19:02.48 | netchip | doing experiments on it :) |
| 19:02.53 | netchip | and if it works well |
| 19:02.55 | zumbi | nice |
| 19:02.59 | netchip | I'll export & make a initrd |
| 19:03.06 | netchip | :P |
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| 19:03.32 | netchip | main problem is storage for kernel source code etc |
| 19:03.36 | netchip | because NFS = :'( |
| 19:04.01 | zumbi | NBD? |
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| 19:04.42 | netchip | zumbi, it's basically the same as NFS, isn't it? :) NFS is working good, but slow |
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| 19:05.08 | jelly-home | no, it's not "basically the same" |
| 19:05.22 | zumbi | netchip: it's not the same at all |
| 19:05.32 | netchip | ah |
| 19:05.40 | jelly-home | it's basically different, one is a filesystem, the other is a block device. |
| 19:05.44 | zumbi | maybe from user point of view, it can do the same for you |
| 19:05.49 | netchip | you can mount a device node on another device? |
| 19:06.29 | netchip | WiFi = hell |
| 19:06.58 | netchip | it's probably OK for listening music etc |
| 19:07.11 | netchip | but don't try to compile kernels via NFS over WiFi |
| 19:09.43 | netchip | hum |
| 19:09.49 | netchip | they say NBD is much faster than NFS |
| 19:10.01 | netchip | it probably is, but it doesn't make my wifi quicker ;) |
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| 19:27.11 | Jonathan_Eyre | What would make me get the error: "sprite update error: fail to open part file i@@m"?? |
| 19:28.03 | Jonathan_Eyre | My sd card gets most of the way through the install, then shuts down on this error. |
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| 19:58.59 | Jef91 | So I have my debian file system booted on the MK802 |
| 19:59.08 | Jef91 | but I can't seem to get the wireless detected - any suggestions? |
| 19:59.55 | mnemoc | load the module manually |
| 20:00.53 | mnemoc | by default boards come configured (script.bin) to have disabled the usb controller where the wifi is connected |
| 20:01.10 | mnemoc | and the "allwinnerized" driver turns it on/off |
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| 20:17.48 | netchip | Jef91, I talked with codeworkx, from the CyanogenMod team, and source compiled kernel is a no-go for NAND/WiFi driver. |
| 20:17.57 | netchip | so use prebuilt one ;-) |
| 20:18.25 | netchip | oh wait |
| 20:18.27 | netchip | it's a sunxi? |
| 20:18.33 | netchip | or a Rockchip? |
| 20:23.51 | fragmint | om nom nom |
| 20:23.54 | fragmint | dericious rockchip! |
| 20:30.03 | netchip | Allwinner > rockchip |
| 20:30.06 | netchip | for now |
| 20:30.15 | netchip | because rockchip violates the gpl |
| 20:31.20 | Jef91 | netchip: allwinner |
| 20:31.22 | Jef91 | a10 |
| 20:31.46 | netchip | Allwinner A31, that with SATA is what I want ;P |
| 20:31.55 | netchip | Jef91, Ah |
| 20:32.07 | mnemoc | A31 has pvr instead of mali |
| 20:32.09 | netchip | then just modprobe module :P |
| 20:32.58 | Jef91 | yea netchip, I need to figure out which module I need to load |
| 20:33.03 | rm | Jef91, which kernel and script.bin do you use? |
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| 21:06.36 | netchip | An interesting question: do you think there will be superintelligent robots, in less 100 years? Superintelligent robots are better at things than humans. |
| 21:06.48 | netchip | There are also more clever. |
| 21:06.57 | netchip | And they can evolve theirselfs. |
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