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| 01:16.51 | drachensun | techn_: makes sense, we aren't going to displace that driver. Did you try to compile it? I might give it a shot later |
| 01:17.29 | drachensun | techn_: I just got done hacking up my driver to add a scaling factor so it works when the tablet is rotated. https://github.com/npeacock/linux-sunxi/commit/2421905a0295ddd4bb0e85fece8075e7b39028f3 |
| 01:19.26 | ccssnet | nice |
| 01:20.40 | drachensun | didn't seem like good mailing list material, its an ugly hack and I think there is probably some userspace way to avoid all this, but I couldn't figure out how |
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| 02:32.31 | WarheadsSE | quick ? |
| 02:32.50 | WarheadsSE | can I compile the uboot for the a13 olinuxino from v5 |
| 02:37.25 | WarheadsSE | meh, ill try it. |
| 02:47.20 | WarheadsSE | hrmm fex2bin a13_olinuxino.fex script.bin |
| 02:47.22 | WarheadsSE | E: a13_olinuxino.fex:227: invalid character at 13. |
| 03:44.35 | xenoxaos | WarheadsSE: do you need a v7 to compile on? |
| 03:44.48 | WarheadsSE | I can probably fire up my A100 |
| 03:44.59 | WarheadsSE | since my nitros are a bit wonk. |
| 03:45.04 | xenoxaos | k |
| 03:45.13 | WarheadsSE | fighting the SPL atm. |
| 03:45.26 | WarheadsSE | got a bootloop on the 512 SPL from the std a13-olinuxino |
| 03:46.09 | xenoxaos | just checkin |
| 03:49.21 | WarheadsSE | hmm.. still got a 512 spl. |
| 03:49.54 | xenoxaos | doesnt it have only 512? |
| 03:50.02 | WarheadsSE | no, the micro is 256 |
| 03:50.15 | WarheadsSE | the a13-olinuxino is 512 |
| 03:50.26 | xenoxaos | ahhh |
| 03:50.28 | xenoxaos | k |
| 03:53.44 | WarheadsSE | I grabbed the script.bin from olimex's git, since the linux-sunxi for the a13-olinuxino apparently has ^ that error |
| 03:54.28 | WarheadsSE | it may yet not match the micro, but I'll work from it, after I can at least get past SPL loop. |
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| 04:38.11 | Turl | servili007: ping, you've got mail |
| 04:38.41 | servili007 | Turl: Roger, thanks :) |
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| 04:41.15 | Turl | servili007: let me know if you need anything else, I'll be around for a bit |
| 04:42.57 | servili007 | Turl: Sounds good, may or may not have some time for it tonight, depends on what the woman dictates hehe |
| 04:43.37 | Turl | :) |
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| 10:02.08 | cholo | oola |
| 10:03.08 | cholo | como puedo instalar ubuntu 12.04 desde ubuntu 10.04 desde pen desde la bios a q boton le tengo que dar |
| 10:03.19 | cholo | para q se instale |
| 10:03.42 | cholo | ya tengo la iso y descomprimida de universal usb en un pen de 8g |
| 10:15.03 | rellla | cholo: try english please. you'll get more help then. |
| 10:15.06 | specing | blablabla |
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| 12:22.06 | Turl | morning |
| 12:30.17 | mnemoc | moin |
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| 13:35.07 | hansg | Hi guys, I'm working on getting an A10s to boot "our" u-boot and uImage from sdcard. So far I'm moving carefully, a10-meminfo shows the same settings as we've for the a13_mid / a13_olinuxino |
| 13:35.55 | hansg | Except that the io_width / bus_width for the 2 a13 boards is 8 / 16, and for my a10s it is 16 / 32. |
| 13:36.39 | mnemoc | hansg: any thought regarding the led-ata patch? |
| 13:37.47 | mnemoc | hansg: if you have a cubieboard hno documented the way of getting the nand replaced with a second mmc and so been able to breakout jtag |
| 13:37.59 | mnemoc | err |
| 13:38.01 | mnemoc | ignore that |
| 13:38.13 | mnemoc | stupid comment. you need jtag on your A10S stick |
| 13:38.19 | hansg | mnemoc, no not really, sorry I don't have any background info / knowledge on it, so no opinion, other then that I like the functionality it offers, but it seems that the discussion is about some renaming going on, not the functionality ? |
| 13:38.23 | mnemoc | f* migrane |
| 13:38.55 | mnemoc | hansg: in general I don't feel confortable adding non-sunxi patches to our tree |
| 13:39.29 | mnemoc | so i would like to know what other devs feel about crossing the line for this particular feature |
| 13:39.39 | hansg | I understand, so maybe ask the submitter if it is possible to do a patch which gives the hdd led without doing the rename stuff ? |
| 13:40.02 | mnemoc | we will still be patching libata |
| 13:41.09 | mnemoc | sounds like a reasonable patch to be mainlined |
| 13:41.56 | hansg | Right, I would like to suggest the following: 1) ask the submitter to do a minimal patch, so without renaming etc, just the minimum necessary to get the functionality. 2) then I'll happily give it a quick review to see if it does not impact things speedwise |
| 13:42.44 | hansg | WRT mainlining, I agree. But this is a chicken and egg problem, mainlining likely won't happen until there is a user for it, and that user would be sunxi ata code which is far from upstream |
| 13:43.01 | mnemoc | :) |
| 13:43.18 | Turl | why not make it work with generic ata devices on mainline? |
| 13:43.24 | Turl | mainline that |
| 13:43.29 | Turl | then backport to sunxi tree |
| 13:43.38 | hansg | My main worry is the patch may end up doing too much work in a hot path in libata slowing things down, which is a reason why getting it mainlined would be really good, because then people who actually know the code will look at it |
| 13:43.39 | mnemoc | is alergic to lkml |
| 13:44.10 | hansg | Turl, I'm not sure if they will take a patch adding a led-trigger without also adding at least 1 consumer of that trigger in the same patch-set |
| 13:44.36 | Turl | hansg: maybe I got the patch wrong |
| 13:45.23 | Turl | but I supposed there was a led trigger framework of sorts, where devices might "trigger_led()" of some such, and that would generate an user specified action? |
| 13:45.43 | Turl | so the consumer would be the ata code |
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| 13:48.41 | hansg | Turl, no the ata code is the producer of the trigger... |
| 13:51.49 | hansg | OK, so I've just taken a look, and the rename although sensible is not something which we should carry without it going through upstream, the rest is basically a 1 line libata change which although outside of the sunxi realm is something which we could carry IMHO, just the 1 line change is worth the added functionality. And we can then also ask the submitter to send the full version with rename upstream ... |
| 13:52.03 | hansg | So back to the a10s: I would like to get the boot0 from there any ideas for doing that ? |
| 13:53.49 | Turl | now that I've read the code, looks like a sensible patch for upstream |
| 13:54.20 | Turl | I doubt there would be much, if any, opposition to it |
| 13:55.08 | Turl | it could be separated I guess (rename and move in one, add the call on the ata path in a second patch) |
| 13:56.34 | hansg | Turl, agreed. So we will need to have someone to submit it upstream, we could ask the original submitter, but I'm not sure he groks the process, so any takers ? |
| 13:57.29 | hansg | In the mean time we could carry a minimal version which just adds the 1 line call of ledtrig_ide_activity(); to libata-core.c |
| 13:58.10 | mnemoc | hansg: see hno's allwinner-info repo. he has toys to grab raw nand stuff from a running system iirc |
| 13:58.34 | Turl | hansg: I can submit it if I get permission from the author |
| 13:59.15 | mnemoc | hansg: also, the lichee-dev branch in u-boot-sunxi has nand support. you can hack something up to extract the first raw block from the nand using it |
| 13:59.31 | mnemoc | hansg: it's intended as a drop-in replacement for nanda's linux/u-boot.bin |
| 13:59.43 | hansg | Turl, the author is unknown, so probably best to just redo from scratch, all it is a git mv + s/ide/disk/ then you're the author :) |
| 14:00.03 | mnemoc | :D |
| 14:01.36 | Turl | hansg: :) I guess, will do then |
| 14:01.54 | Turl | btw, at anyone with a cubie, how many leds is it supposed to have? |
| 14:02.00 | Turl | and what colors? |
| 14:03.02 | mnemoc | https://groups.google.com/d/topic/cubieboard/IhkQN2dDFL0/discussion |
| 14:03.20 | mnemoc | I think we should rename the script.bin section to leds_para for consitency |
| 14:04.50 | Turl | I'm asking because I saw people talk about green leds and cubie having two leds |
| 14:05.03 | mnemoc | see that post |
| 14:05.05 | Turl | but I've only seen a red one to indicate power |
| 14:05.22 | mnemoc | red seems to be connected to the axp iirc |
| 14:05.34 | hansg | Turl, according to the ml-thread on the patch this is the source: http://dev.gentoo.org/~josejx/ata.patch so you could try mailing this josejx ... |
| 14:06.26 | hansg | Turl, I've a feature request for the Fedora A10 images to make the green led light on boot "like the build-in android does", so it definitely has a green led :) |
| 14:06.39 | hansg | will have his own cubie soon(ish) |
| 14:08.47 | Turl | well, my cubie didn't come with android but with some factory test image |
| 14:08.54 | mnemoc | that post on the cb list includes .fex stuff for a blue and a green led |
| 14:09.16 | Turl | btw, I saw the patch missed a couple of renames on the leds.h, nobody seems to have noticed :P |
| 14:09.17 | mnemoc | back in 20m |
| 14:10.33 | Turl | I think I found the leds, they're labelled led1 and led2 |
| 14:10.41 | Turl | needed to look more carefully :) |
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| 14:21.15 | WarheadsSE | anyone know the reasoning behind not accepting the patches for the a13_onlinuxino_micro from a while back? |
| 14:22.10 | Turl | WarheadsSE: patches to what? |
| 14:22.22 | WarheadsSE | linux-sunxi kernel |
| 14:22.30 | WarheadsSE | supposedly they were sent |
| 14:22.49 | WarheadsSE | and someone rejected them, ffrom what I understand from olimex |
| 14:23.21 | Turl | what kind of patches were them? and to what tree? |
| 14:25.24 | Turl | disregard the 2nd question |
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| 14:27.17 | Turl | WarheadsSE: I don't see any olinuxino patches for linux-sunxi |
| 14:32.01 | WarheadsSE | apparently the -micro has no AXP, and a few other differences from the a13-olinuxino |
| 14:32.06 | WarheadsSE | and yeah, Turl, I know |
| 14:32.21 | WarheadsSE | idk if this what when it was under the amery repos |
| 14:33.31 | Turl | it was probably lost/forgotten then I guess |
| 14:33.50 | WarheadsSE | quick ? then |
| 14:34.39 | WarheadsSE | I modified a local copy of the uboot, adding the dram.c differences for the -micro (256M), but my eventual SPL always comes up 512. Thoughts? |
| 14:35.12 | Turl | did you configure uboot with the right board (the new one you added)? |
| 14:35.20 | WarheadsSE | yup |
| 14:35.32 | Turl | and did you make clean or equivalent? |
| 14:36.27 | WarheadsSE | copy & duplicate a13_olinuxino to a13_alinuxino_micro, boards.cfg, baords/allwinner/a13_olinuxino to a13_olinuxino_micro, make clean, make mrproper, make a13_olinuxino_micro |
| 14:37.06 | Turl | boards.cfg with correct data? |
| 14:37.25 | WarheadsSE | I can't right now, but I will get a diff for you to review |
| 14:37.28 | WarheadsSE | (but yes) |
| 14:37.44 | WarheadsSE | it comes up with the modified name, just 512, and SPL loop |
| 14:38.23 | br- | hmms. what is the name for the action of converting something into a set of pronouncable words. in this case, say mapping the bits of an md5sum on to english words |
| 14:38.51 | Turl | encoding? |
| 14:38.56 | br- | pgpphone used to do it. short of irc channels full of nerds, so asking here :) |
| 14:39.05 | br- | Turl: there's a commonly used name for it |
| 14:39.09 | br- | trans-something |
| 14:39.16 | Turl | transcode? |
| 14:39.29 | br- | like transliteration, but not that |
| 14:41.36 | br- | finds http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1751 , appears satisfied |
| 14:42.27 | br- | wouldn't it be nice if there was a totally legal GPL'd android market app that you could bootstrap with a useful software list using only a handful of english words (aka. md5sum reference to bittorrent DHT) |
| 14:43.00 | br- | so the key encodes a .torrent containing a package respository, device fetches that, provides nice UI to user |
| 14:43.06 | Turl | there's fdroid |
| 14:43.48 | br- | aah :) yes.. i'm more interested in interesting ways to make it convenient to get google apps and suchlike installed on AOSP builds without undue suffering |
| 14:47.02 | mnemoc | beware the a13-micro doesn't have pmu so it's .fex needs to be adjusted for that |
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| 15:13.52 | hansg | I've just finished modifying my A10s stick, so now it has a serial console "connector" on it. Lrarning some interesting stuff, IE the kernel outputs messages about axp15_xxx and indeed upon examing the pmu it is an axp152, for which we don't have a driver yet ... |
| 15:14.10 | hansg | Are there any good pictures of A13 pcb-s out there ? Good enough to see the pmu they use ? |
| 15:14.46 | hansg | I guess I'dd better disable the axp driver for now, leaving the axp run at its defaults ... |
| 15:16.04 | hansg | guesses the axp152 is a stripped 202 to match the stripped A10 |
| 15:18.01 | hansg | mnemoc, does anyone have a linux-sunxi kernel running successfully on a13 based machines ? (just wondering) |
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| 16:02.48 | ZaEarl_ | my a13 tablet uses axp20 |
| 16:18.28 | Quarx | Someone know, which function can be replace this : dma_cache_maint ? Driver from 2.6.32 use this, but since .35+ this func is static and can't be used in drivers. |
| 16:30.10 | Turl | Quarx: /* * Make an area consistent for devices. * Note: Drivers should NOT use this function directly, as it will break * platforms with CONFIG_DMABOUNCE. * Use the driver DMA support - see dma-mapping.h (dma_sync_*) */ void dma_cache_maint(const void *start, size_t size, int direction) |
| 16:35.53 | Turl | Quarx: one of these I guess http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/linux/dma-mapping.h#L38 |
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| 16:45.05 | bsdfox | ganbold: is there any support for the onboard ethernet phy in freebsd? why are people using the usb nic? |
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| 16:48.51 | provel_ | any new about mali or A10 CEC drivers/documentation? |
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| 16:53.38 | Quarx | Turl: yes, but which.. |
| 16:54.06 | rz2k | provel_: ssvb made new drivers that are not so crappy as official ones |
| 16:54.30 | rz2k | provel_: 40fps in glmark2 made it to 290 |
| 16:55.06 | Turl | Quarx: depends on use case I guess |
| 16:55.52 | provel_ | fbdev ones? how I can use? need kernel drivers updated |
| 16:55.55 | provel_ | ? |
| 16:55.57 | Quarx | provel_: https://github.com/Quarx2k/jordan-kernel/blob/2.6.32/drivers/usb/ipchost/ipc_dma.c#L117 |
| 16:55.59 | Quarx | oops |
| 16:56.04 | Quarx | Turl: https://github.com/Quarx2k/jordan-kernel/blob/2.6.32/drivers/usb/ipchost/ipc_dma.c#L117 |
| 16:56.49 | rz2k | provel_: yes, kernel update is needed |
| 16:57.35 | rz2k | provel_: http://cgit.freedesktop.org/~siamashka/xf86-video-fbdev/log/?h=wip-sunxi-mali https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/commit/89a5378dd5ef60c1d3fba0aa96cc543dfe65266c |
| 16:57.51 | rz2k | dont forget to remove xf86-video-mali |
| 16:57.58 | rz2k | since you will not need it |
| 16:58.22 | provel_ | ehrr....ok... but linux-sunxi 3.4 kernel is the only thing I need? |
| 16:58.43 | rz2k | needed patch was pushed in all working branches |
| 16:58.49 | rz2k | 3.4 too |
| 16:58.53 | rz2k | just git pull and rebuild |
| 16:59.04 | rz2k | I thought you have custom kernel and linked a patch :) |
| 16:59.11 | provel_ | ok.... thank you very much... I have already |
| 17:01.00 | mnemoc | hansg: iirc the A10S uses a different AXP which we haven't imported yet |
| 17:01.10 | Turl | Quarx: sync_single_for_cpu / sync_single_for_device I guess |
| 17:01.14 | mnemoc | hansg: the A13 uses the normal axp209 |
| 17:01.37 | Quarx | Turl: ok, thanks, i'll try it:) |
| 17:01.59 | rz2k | hansg: techn_: still no luck with that X issue :( |
| 17:02.28 | provel_ | hum, how I remove xf86-video-mali ? |
| 17:02.54 | Turl | Quarx: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/include/asm-generic/dma-mapping-common.h#L97 |
| 17:03.26 | provel_ | I suppose is /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers |
| 17:04.01 | provel_ | thanks bye |
| 17:06.11 | WarheadsSE | hansg: yup. running stable on an a13-olinuxino-micro atm. |
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| 17:07.02 | WarheadsSE | mnemoc: Okay, re: micro/pmu I'm aware of that one, but I cheated and snagged the one out of the debian prelim, bin2fex'd it |
| 17:08.07 | fragmint | raises his hand |
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| 17:10.01 | provel_ | hum, ssvb driver give me issue : 61.186] (EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOPUTCMAP: Invalid argument |
| 17:10.18 | provel_ | repeated over and over ..... framebuffer mali r3p1 |
| 17:10.30 | fragmint | is this channel for those wm8650 netbooks? |
| 17:11.05 | ssvb | provel_: it's not an issue |
| 17:11.31 | Turl | fragmint: it wouldn't be off topic, but I haven't heard of many people with those in here |
| 17:11.33 | ssvb | provel_: btw, framebuffer mali will not work |
| 17:11.40 | fragmint | chromebooks? |
| 17:11.46 | rz2k | fragmint: for everything ARM-linux-embedded related |
| 17:11.55 | fragmint | yaaay! |
| 17:12.23 | Turl | fragmint: most people in here work on allwinner devices, but the channel isn't really limited to them |
| 17:12.54 | ssvb | provel_: I don't think you even need X server for framebuffer mali |
| 17:13.02 | WarheadsSE | waves to fragmint |
| 17:13.12 | fragmint | I got two literati ereaders from my local microcenter for $9/ea and am fiddling with them. they have specs similiar to most wm8650 netbooks. (800x480 color display, 600-800mhz armv6, 64mb/ram, 256mb internal SD + ext SD slot, built in keyboard/wifi) |
| 17:13.35 | WarheadsSE | armv6l w/ vfp, btw |
| 17:13.49 | Turl | 9USD each? |
| 17:13.52 | fragmint | yep |
| 17:13.53 | Turl | talk about cheap :O |
| 17:14.27 | provel_ | ssvb : I must remove all the maly drivers, even fb, for your driver to work? |
| 17:14.59 | provel_ | I get that error repeated multiple times and then no X appears |
| 17:15.06 | fragmint | the updates for them are just a .tgz file with the rootfs. It just flashes those to internal SD on the update process. I slapped netcat from an old version of arm angstrom in there and got a remote shell going. |
| 17:15.09 | provel_ | and xorg is not anymore running |
| 17:15.33 | Turl | fragmint: similar to how kindle does it |
| 17:15.51 | RaYmAn | and kobo |
| 17:15.51 | provel_ | configuration has shadowFB-false row commented |
| 17:16.16 | rz2k | provel_: you might step into the same issue I have right now on my device |
| 17:16.22 | rz2k | I cant launch xorg at all |
| 17:16.28 | provel_ | ok same here |
| 17:16.32 | ssvb | provel_: just use whatever works for you, framebuffer mali should be already fast, it is not like X server is going to accelerate anything |
| 17:16.36 | rz2k | it just segfaults or locksup harder |
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| 17:16.57 | provel_ | mine freezes ... and log state only that issue |
| 17:17.06 | fragmint | I'd like to get another distro running on there but at the moment I'm just fiddling with it until I can get a serial cable with level shifter so I can image the darn thing |
| 17:17.09 | provel_ | maybe it's because this is precise |
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| 17:17.20 | provel_ | I'll update ubuntu/linaro lately |
| 17:17.35 | rz2k | remove /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/99-mali.conf |
| 17:17.37 | rz2k | if you have it |
| 17:17.47 | rz2k | you dont need it for ssvb's driver |
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| 17:18.05 | fragmint | I'm trying to get a shell to display on the ereader itself but chvt/openvt seems to have no effect. I don't see any traces of X on there. was wondering if anyone had any suggestions |
| 17:18.23 | provel_ | removed |
| 17:18.24 | rz2k | also we have r3p0 drivers in our kernel, so you need x11 mali libraries with same version |
| 17:18.26 | Turl | application writing directly to frambuffer? |
| 17:18.40 | provel_ | also addedd 99-fbdev ... I can remove it too? |
| 17:18.51 | fragmint | was that to me or rz2k? |
| 17:19.30 | Turl | to you fragmint |
| 17:20.06 | fragmint | believe so. I see directfb/qt on there and thats about the only thing related to graphics I can find |
| 17:20.30 | Turl | well, if you see directfb then it's likely using it |
| 17:21.13 | penguin42 | lkcl: Have you looked at 'electric' for schematic wrangling; I know it's primarily designed for chip stuff - don't know what it's PCB skills are? |
| 17:22.06 | ssvb | rz2k: does X work for you in any other configuration (different resolution, VGA output, ...)? |
| 17:23.39 | provel_ | ssvb: maybe this helps, my log latest row is: (==) FBDEV(0): DPMS enabled |
| 17:25.19 | ssvb | provel_: first try to get the standard xf86-video-fbdev driver up and running, if it fails, then the problem is not in my code |
| 17:25.53 | provel_ | ssvb: I was trying to get it up and running |
| 17:26.08 | provel_ | ah standard one... ok |
| 17:26.35 | ssvb | provel_: xf86-video-fbdev should be normally compatible with pretty much any system unless something is really wrong with it |
| 17:27.06 | aexl1 | lo. is there a way to boot android from sd card on a10? |
| 17:27.40 | Turl | it should be doable, yes |
| 17:27.51 | aexl1 | Turl: any links? |
| 17:28.30 | ssvb | provel_: yes, the standard one, and right now I'm preparing a proper release of the driver with its own name (in order to avoid any confusion with the standard xf86-video-fbdev), so you might actually want to wait until it is ready |
| 17:28.31 | Turl | not that I know of, but it shouldn't be any much different that a normal distro |
| 17:29.01 | Turl | adjust the mountpoints on the init.sun*i.rc file, repackage ramdisk and then have uboot boot kernel with ramdisk |
| 17:29.47 | rz2k | ssvb: nope |
| 17:29.57 | rz2k | I tried vga and hdmi 720p |
| 17:30.20 | ssvb | rz2k: did bisecting reveal anything useful? |
| 17:31.11 | aexl1 | Turl: how do i repackage ramdisk? |
| 17:31.14 | rz2k | need to setup NFS and testing scripts |
| 17:31.34 | Turl | the normal way, cpio + gzip |
| 17:31.42 | rz2k | I will do it later, someday :) |
| 17:32.01 | aexl1 | Turl: thx. sounds good. will take a look! |
| 17:33.55 | aexl1 | Turl: there should already be a ramdisk in ICS right? |
| 17:35.22 | Turl | yes, android usually contains the ramdisk inside the boot image (boot.img) |
| 17:35.30 | Turl | you can extract it using the 'unpackbootimg' tool |
| 17:35.47 | Turl | that will get you the kernel and ramdisk out of the boot image |
| 17:36.17 | aexl1 | Turl: thx. brb. |
| 17:39.08 | ssvb | rz2k: btw, this is how I'm building my kernel for Mele A2000 - https://gist.github.com/4573851 (if you don't have NFS, you can make a tarball with the modules, scp them to the device and use ssh to extract, all from the same script) |
| 17:39.46 | ssvb | rz2k: no SD card swapping necessary, that is until the system fails to boot :) |
| 17:41.26 | ssvb | rz2k: bisecting is reasonably fast in this setup |
| 17:41.35 | rz2k | I will try it |
| 17:41.47 | rz2k | want to finally get NFS since we have u-boot with network |
| 17:41.56 | aexl1 | Turl: can't find boot.img on nanda. but i will look into this further. thx again! |
| 17:42.44 | Turl | aexl1: boot.img is on a separate partition |
| 17:42.54 | Turl | nandc iirc |
| 17:43.35 | Turl | cat /dev/block/nandc > boot.img |
| 17:44.05 | aexl1 | Turl: oh then i have to connect again. :D |
| 17:44.55 | ssvb | rz2k: do you mean u-boot can load the kernel over ethernet now? sounds good |
| 17:45.16 | rz2k | it should, what stops that if we have network :p |
| 17:45.24 | Turl | it can |
| 17:45.26 | Turl | I do it :D |
| 17:45.28 | rz2k | If I remember u-boot functions correctly |
| 17:45.52 | ssvb | Turl: great, is there any wiki page explaining the details? |
| 17:46.05 | Turl | I tftp 3.8-rc4 with devicetree |
| 17:46.17 | Turl | ssvb: not really, but it's not hard |
| 17:46.30 | rz2k | if it uses standard u-boot commands, it should be simple |
| 17:46.35 | Turl | first you need to set up a tftp server on your pc |
| 17:46.46 | Turl | to serve the kernel/ramdisk/whatever you need loaded |
| 17:46.57 | Turl | then build the latest u-boot-sunxi for your device and flash it on a card |
| 17:47.34 | Turl | then all you need are proper rules for your environment, I can share you the ones I have on my cubie |
| 17:47.46 | Turl | I dropped them on uEnv.txt, works like a charm :) |
| 17:48.07 | Turl | (and well then you need an ethernet cable to plug your device on the same network as your tftp server) |
| 17:50.28 | WarheadsSE | mnemoc / turl .. would I need to compile without the AXP in the kernel for the micro, since it isn't there, or will it safely ignore it. |
| 17:50.43 | ssvb | Turl: ok, thanks a lot |
| 17:52.54 | Turl | WarheadsSE: theorically it should ignore it |
| 17:53.02 | WarheadsSE | good |
| 17:53.06 | Turl | WarheadsSE: on practice, however.. you never know :P |
| 17:53.33 | Turl | WarheadsSE: so try and see if you get random cpu eaters or other weird stuff/crashes |
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| 17:59.01 | WarheadsSE | heh |
| 17:59.12 | WarheadsSE | death |
| 18:03.41 | penguin42 | hmm, 1st time I've seen someone selling something with an A5 core; http://www.scan.co.uk/products/nurvo-mini-google-tv-stick-wireless-android-40-ics-full-hd-1080p-coretex-a5-cpu-wifi |
| 18:03.57 | Turl | ssvb: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/557c575f/ |
| 18:04.19 | fragmint | those have been around for awhile |
| 18:04.58 | fragmint | don't think they predate the mk802 but as soon as it came out those a5 ones started showing up on some sites when you searched for tv sticks on price low to high |
| 18:05.45 | Turl | mripard: ping |
| 18:09.28 | rm | penguin42, http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/06/14/52-99-usd-cx-01-mini-android-4-0-tv-box-powered-by-telechips-tcc8923-cortex-a5/ |
| 18:09.35 | rm | that's from 6 months ago |
| 18:09.49 | penguin42 | huh yeh |
| 18:10.01 | fragmint | shudders |
| 18:10.03 | lkcl | penguin42: not heard of it |
| 18:10.06 | fragmint | ewww... telechips |
| 18:10.47 | penguin42 | lkcl: apt-get install electric |
| 18:10.53 | penguin42 | lkvl: Been around for many years |
| 18:10.54 | fragmint | on the subject of tv-sticks. be careful if looking for mk808/mk802v3/ug802/etc. bunch of clones have been popping up everywhere in the past few weeks |
| 18:11.59 | rm | it is silly to talk about "clones" where there might be not one true "original device" in the first place |
| 18:12.02 | penguin42 | lkcl: Whether it has what you need I don't know http://www.staticfreesoft.com/productsFree.html |
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| 18:37.09 | leowt | hi |
| 18:37.29 | leowt | what are the current issues with 3.4 branch? |
| 18:50.26 | Turl | usb gadget is not ported yet |
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| 19:56.01 | fragmint | raises his hand |
| 19:57.10 | fragmint | busybox with static libraries/uclibc... waste of mem? |
| 19:58.13 | Turl | depends on what you're going to do with it, what is it going to run on |
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| 20:09.04 | aexl_ | gnexus build a 'static' busybox = 2.1MB |
| 20:10.10 | specing | thats huge? |
| 20:10.22 | specing | My whole coreutils install is 4M :) |
| 20:10.40 | specing | (Though I have to admit busybox contains much more functionality) |
| 20:14.47 | fragmint | oh sorry Turl, that little ereader (666 bogomips ArmV6, 64mb/ram, 256mb storage built in) |
| 20:15.40 | fragmint | I assume my best bet is to build a loaded busybox/rootfs, throw it in qemu and see if things work then flash it to the thing and spend the next week figuring out why stuff doesn't work on it |
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| 20:18.16 | Turl | depending on what use you're going to give to busybox, it might be better to make it static and avoid the headache of mismatching libs and stuff |
| 20:18.23 | Turl | 64mb is not that little |
| 20:18.28 | Turl | it's not a lot either though |
| 20:19.51 | fragmint | pretty much what I was thinking |
| 20:20.05 | fragmint | I would like to see if I couldn't get VNC going on it |
| 20:20.13 | penguin42 | should be plenty for that |
| 20:20.23 | fragmint | maybe an NES emulator or doom |
| 20:21.04 | penguin42 | since my 1st x86 Linux box had 16MB I think, and I did used to run ARM Linux on 4MB - although that was a long time ago :-) |
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| 20:43.21 | aexl_ | Turl: regarding the android sd card: do i adjust the init.sun4i.rc from the ramdisk or from the system partition? i started a wip here: http://linux-sunxi.org/User:äxl/Android_on_SD_card |
| 20:43.42 | fragmint | oh sweet |
| 20:43.58 | fragmint | busybox has an option to compile doom built in... and it auto-fetches the shareware WAD! |
| 20:44.39 | aexl_ | fragmint: :D |
| 20:44.42 | Turl | fragmint: lol |
| 20:44.59 | Turl | aexl_: system partition has init.sun4i.rc? o.O |
| 20:45.20 | aexl_ | well / is system right? |
| 20:45.35 | Turl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.42 | Turl | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:45.43 | aexl_ | ooooh :D |
| 20:45.55 | fragmint | yay, this reminds me of the first time I built a kernel |
| 20:46.05 | Turl | run 'mount' to see the list |
| 20:46.10 | fragmint | I have no idea what I'm doing... I'm just hitting options like "oooh, that looks like i might want it someday" |
| 20:46.32 | aexl_ | Turl: right but it does not say ramdisk ;) |
| 20:46.40 | aexl_ | fragmint: :D again |
| 20:46.46 | Turl | fragmint: haha |
| 20:59.37 | aexl_ | it's a little bit confusing since system is nandc is boot.img is ramdisk |
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| 21:41.12 | fragmint | have any of you folks tried using amazon ec2 for building rootfs's? |
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| 21:47.20 | techn_ | aexl_: could you send patch to sunxi-media-create.sh? :) |
| 21:49.15 | specing | fragmint: What, you don't have a real computer? |
| 21:49.39 | fragmint | no. =( |
| 21:49.55 | fragmint | I mean I have a computer, its just not horribly quick or anything |
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| 21:51.04 | specing | well my 4 years old core2duo is enaugh to keep 4 Gentoo systems updated (2 compiled in a qemu-arm chroot, other in a i586 chroot) while Im playing games |
| 21:51.31 | specing | so not an excuse! |
| 21:51.39 | specing | just let it run overnight |
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| 21:52.14 | specing | (if your current computer is a pentium 4 then I don't know what is keeping you from buying something newer) |
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| 21:59.17 | aexl_ | techn_: if i'm ever able to complete the mess i started. :D |
| 21:59.27 | techn_ | :) |
| 22:00.41 | techn_ | that worked for cwm recovery img http://pastebin.com/5Gb83G99 |
| 22:01.03 | aexl_ | specing: i wouldn't buy a pc just for compiling. |
| 22:01.12 | specing | aexl_: me neither |
| 22:12.57 | fragmint | does a little jig |
| 22:13.10 | fragmint | all this fiddling with crosscompiling to get a more complete busybox on this ereader |
| 22:13.36 | fragmint | just snatched busybox-static out of debian armhf, transferred it via netcat and now I'm busyboxing away |
| 22:15.44 | WarheadsSE | Turl: in re earlier convo: https://github.com/hehopmajieh/linux-sunxi/commits/sunxi-3.0 -- commits from 2012-12-03 |
| 22:21.43 | aexl_ | fragmint: only 780.5 kB - is it complete? |
| 22:22.06 | fragmint | seems to be. |
| 22:22.14 | aexl_ | and what about doom?!? |
| 22:23.05 | fragmint | compiles keep on failing |
| 22:23.21 | fragmint | and I want more info on this thing... the busybox I put on there has lspci/lsusb/top/etc |
| 22:23.36 | aexl_ | ;) sure |
| 22:24.31 | fragmint | pretty much tripled the available tools on that thing with a 1mb file |
| 22:27.19 | aexl_ | nice. it's not android is it? |
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| 22:31.53 | WarheadsSE | I never got a model # from your fragmint |
| 22:32.32 | fragmint | model of? |
| 22:32.46 | Turl | WarheadsSE: "Setting i2c speed to 100KHz" looks like a hack to me |
| 22:33.09 | Turl | the defconfig should be probably savedefconfig'ed before merging |
| 22:33.20 | fragmint | aexl_, nope, linux |
| 22:33.26 | WarheadsSE | Turl: it is, I am told, because some of the i2c's for the exp can't talk that fast |
| 22:33.37 | Turl | the other one looks sensible although a better commit message would be appreciated |
| 22:33.42 | WarheadsSE | Aside from that, the others look okay, afai am seeing |
| 22:34.01 | WarheadsSE | yeah, not my repo :) |
| 22:34.26 | WarheadsSE | But those are the changes that are "needed" to the stable branch |
| 22:34.51 | WarheadsSE | I'm leery of the i2c bus change myself, that is a bad method. not ifdef based on config, etc. |
| 23:17.04 | WarheadsSE | Turl: thoughts on proper way to ifndef around CONFIG_AXP209_POWER in uboot? |
| 23:17.27 | WarheadsSE | Looks like most of what i need is already there, except for jumping that ship. |
| 23:19.20 | Turl | WarheadsSE: got a link? |
| 23:19.23 | WarheadsSE | The demonstrated method from this uboot is just as hackish by wrapping it in a #ifndef CONFIG_NO_AXP |
| 23:19.28 | WarheadsSE | https://github.com/hehopmajieh/uboot-allwinner/commit/c95a05639147b3cb45a651bf397c2a90bc1c396a |
| 23:19.54 | WarheadsSE | The rest of that is, afaict, already done, only that CONFIG_AXP209_POWER needs to be jumped. |
| 23:22.11 | Turl | no idea if there's any recommended style for that stuff on uboot |
| 23:22.26 | Turl | WarheadsSE: hno might know |
| 23:22.49 | techn_ | WarheadsSE: why not remove CONFIG_AXP209_POWER from general config and add that to boarch which has it |
| 23:22.50 | WarheadsSE | mm |
| 23:23.12 | WarheadsSE | because, AFAICT, I am not seeing one config/board |
| 23:24.02 | WarheadsSE | eg make a13_olinuxino works, but I see no matching configs/*.h for it, of any kind. |
| 23:24.18 | Turl | WarheadsSE: is the og mk802 supported on uboot now? |
| 23:24.30 | Turl | that one didn't have axp I think |
| 23:24.42 | WarheadsSE | is it an a13? |
| 23:25.11 | techn_ | a10 |
| 23:25.47 | techn_ | hmm.. it should auto detect if there is axp |
| 23:25.51 | WarheadsSE | I see mk802/mk802ii board files |
| 23:26.06 | Turl | WarheadsSE: there should be a includes/config/sun5i.h |
| 23:26.17 | WarheadsSE | yeah, i am looking at it. |
| 23:26.52 | Turl | well, you could make a sun5i-noaxp.h with #..... #include "sun5i."..#undef CONFIG_AXP209_POWER ..#.... |
| 23:27.02 | Turl | then use sun5i-noaxp:...... instead of sun5i:... |
| 23:27.09 | Turl | but it still feels hacky |
| 23:27.24 | WarheadsSE | right |
| 23:27.37 | WarheadsSE | although, that would sort-of solve the issue. |
| 23:27.46 | WarheadsSE | all the ways seem hackish. |
| 23:28.31 | techn_ | hmm.. I think if (!power_failed) clock_set_pll1(1008000000); partly a bug :/ usually when there is no axp voltages are freezed high enough for higher clocks |
| 23:29.35 | Turl | yeah but if it there's an axp and it fails you don't want to raise the clock |
| 23:29.53 | techn_ | yeah.. partly :) |
| 23:30.03 | Turl | WarheadsSE: what's the trouble though? I'm not seeing any problem that could come from the lack of axp |
| 23:30.14 | Turl | all the axp function would fail, your clock would be left slow |
| 23:30.31 | Turl | but it shouldn't fail |
| 23:30.42 | Turl | unless the axp functions are fatal |
| 23:31.19 | WarheadsSE | idk, I am just looking at the modifications, considering what happened with AXP not being present causing massive kernel failures. |
| 23:33.12 | WarheadsSE | I've made the minor adjustment for RAM to ro the dram.c & adjusted the name in board.c of board/allwinner/a13_olinuxino_micro/ |
| 23:33.21 | WarheadsSE | and boards.cfg of course. |
| 23:34.26 | techn_ | Turl: mk802 users would propably want this CONFIG_NO_AXP feature |
| 23:34.51 | Turl | does their spl work as of today? |
| 23:35.00 | WarheadsSE | I could see anyone who has a board that craps |
| 23:35.08 | WarheadsSE | (because of no AXP0 |
| 23:36.37 | WarheadsSE | going the route of sun5i_noaxp & include/undef is looking more likely a decent idea. |
| 23:39.52 | WarheadsSE | Then mirror that for sun5i was well |
| 23:39.57 | WarheadsSE | err, sun4i |