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| 00:30.20 | Maqs | mnemoc: just take the one of the mk802 in the wiki. it's the same except for the ram, nand chips and pcb color ;) |
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| 00:37.15 | takatuk | hi, is it possible to run stock android kernel completely from sd card? boota? |
| 00:38.38 | takatuk | anyone out there? |
| 00:41.08 | TestModule | Yes |
| 00:41.16 | TestModule | There is an article on miniand forums about it |
| 00:42.49 | takatuk | can u provide the link? me is not talking about recovery from sd btw |
| 00:43.59 | TestModule | kk |
| 00:44.59 | TestModule | https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/development/topics/can-i-mount-the-android-image-to-an-sd-card |
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| 01:17.42 | nemik | anyone got these errors: "arm-linux-androideabi-ld: error: no memory region specified for loadable section `.got'" when trying to build sunxi image? |
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| 01:27.04 | nemik | huh so it went away by switching to the 4.7 version of android prebuilt from 4.4.3 |
| 01:54.24 | bsdfox_ | hmm none of the new allwinner chips are going to support sata? |
| 02:49.08 | dw | bsdfox_: i'm in prepurchase phase, have yet to find anything resembling ioperf output for the onboard sata |
| 02:49.24 | dw | you'd think if it made such a difference over usb, someone would've written something somewhere |
| 02:49.54 | WarheadsSE | get me a board with sata, i'll get it for you |
| 02:49.59 | WarheadsSE | I suspect it is noticable |
| 02:50.14 | dw | ordered one and it was seized by customs :( currently about to order another |
| 02:50.29 | WarheadsSE | lol |
| 02:50.37 | WarheadsSE | ive never had anything seized |
| 02:50.55 | dw | apparently estonian customs got real tight after the credit crunch. ordering the new one to the uk |
| 02:51.14 | dw | (and flying to pick it up, sigh) |
| 02:52.28 | WarheadsSE | lol |
| 02:52.37 | WarheadsSE | sry, that does suck though |
| 02:53.16 | dw | aliexpress also have some insane 3 month refund policy, so i haven't got money back yet |
| 02:53.41 | bsdfox_ | dw, I get reasonable sata performance on my mele a2000 |
| 02:53.47 | bsdfox_ | ~40MB/s writes |
| 02:54.00 | dw | what is cpu like? |
| 02:54.37 | dw | for big sequential io it probably wont beat usb on throughput, but on load it may do |
| 02:55.54 | dw | also, any experience with A2000G? seems you can now get 1gb ram since i ordered my last one :) |
| 02:56.56 | bsdfox_ | dw, http://pastebin.com/xV7Qv52N |
| 02:57.32 | bsdfox_ | 4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 115.713 s, 37.1 MB/s |
| 02:57.40 | bsdfox_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:57.56 | dw | dles |
| 02:57.56 | bsdfox_ | and no, I've got the 512mb one |
| 02:58.05 | dw | doesn't saturate the cpu :) |
| 02:58.31 | bsdfox_ | dles? |
| 02:58.34 | dw | type :) |
| 02:58.40 | dw | damnit. typo. |
| 02:59.10 | WarheadsSE | bsdfox_: only 40MB/s writes? |
| 02:59.41 | WarheadsSE | damn |
| 02:59.45 | WarheadsSE | that sucks |
| 03:00.08 | bsdfox_ | WarheadsSE, [ 2.560000] ata1.00: ATA-8: WDC WD2500BEVS-60UST0, 01.01A01, max UDMA/100 |
| 03:03.51 | bsdfox_ | I haven't tried a usb hd yet.. I will |
| 03:08.25 | dw | would be interested in if it's worse or not. just because it has onboard sata doesn't mean the controller isn't the dumbest silicon ever etc :) |
| 03:08.53 | dw | but those numbers are already better than i expected |
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| 04:48.31 | rz2k | is that ok that I cant start Xorg with both xf86-video-mali and xf86-video-fbdev (both standard and from ssvb) when using VGA output? |
| 04:49.15 | rz2k | probably one of the Hans patches killed it. |
| 04:52.23 | rz2k | mnemoc: techn: ssvb: ^ |
| 04:52.42 | rz2k | stage branch by the way |
| 04:55.14 | ssvb | rz2k: right at this moment I'm running the latest sunxi-3.0 branch with VGA+HDMI dual monitor setup and successfully loading/unloading disp/lcd/hdmi modules |
| 04:55.37 | ssvb | rz2k: does the framebuffer console work? |
| 04:55.43 | rz2k | yes |
| 04:56.00 | rz2k | I have segfault after DPMS init |
| 04:56.11 | rz2k | or after fbdev_crtc_config_resize |
| 04:56.18 | ssvb | rz2k: check dmesg log |
| 04:56.44 | rz2k | also disp yells with fail to give a layer |
| 04:56.52 | rz2k | I have something weird going on, surely |
| 04:57.12 | rz2k | could you please share a .config? |
| 04:57.24 | rz2k | I can miss something entirely obvious |
| 04:58.02 | rz2k | also as you seem to have vga/hdmi, you are using mele, could you please post a .fex for this setup? |
| 04:58.11 | rz2k | I didnt try to do this |
| 05:00.52 | ssvb | rz2k: I also had troubles with the mali blob for dual monitor setup (before and after this merge), but at least simple fbdev works |
| 05:03.18 | ssvb | rz2k: for dual monitor setup, I'm using this fex file - https://gist.github.com/4481360 |
| 05:04.41 | ssvb | rz2k: found it by trial and error method, and only vga for /dev/fb0 and hdmi for /dev/fb1 actually seemed to work (changing the order of vga and hdmi fails) |
| 05:07.09 | ssvb | rz2k: if using modules, they can be loaded as "modprobe lcd && modprobe hdmi" ("disp" and "fb" are pulled automatically), any other order seems to also have glitches :) |
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| 05:35.47 | rz2k | recompiling everything right now |
| 05:35.56 | rz2k | I didnt use modules |
| 05:36.08 | rz2k | just everything compiled in |
| 05:53.42 | ssvb | mnemoc: do you know anything about the LTSI project and their kernels? http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/consumer-electronics/ltsi-overview |
| 05:55.03 | ssvb | mnemoc: I have just found that they apparently have backported CMA to linux-3.4 : http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/ltsi-dev/2012-October/000668.html |
| 05:56.45 | ssvb | mnemoc: if their patchset is good, we may solve problems related to memory reservations for the framebuffer, g2d and the other things :) |
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| 06:15.55 | rz2k | interesting |
| 06:16.06 | rz2k | I have http://pastebin.com/e59BYHUD with sun4i_defconfig on stage/sunxi-3.0 |
| 06:21.44 | ssvb | rz2k: any overclocking? |
| 06:23.18 | rz2k | nope |
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| 06:26.22 | rz2k | ssvb: do you have earlyprintk enbled in your kernel? |
| 06:28.16 | ssvb | rz2k: it's not in the default config? |
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| 06:28.58 | ssvb | rz2k: sorry, it is enabled |
| 06:32.09 | ssvb | rz2k: boots fine for me |
| 06:32.45 | ssvb | rz2k: I guess bisecting may help to find something |
| 06:37.08 | nemik | so in hwpack for android, sunxi-bsp says it cannot find build/boot.scr, anyone know what this is where i could find/generate it? |
| 06:40.47 | rz2k | nemik: https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi/wiki |
| 06:44.26 | nemik | so i can ommit it? |
| 06:54.58 | rz2k | you can generate it with mkimage |
| 06:56.29 | rz2k | ssvb: I'm giving up, I've tried both 3.4 and 3.0 sun4i_defconfigs with two different .fex'es (mine and yours). I cant get Xorg to display something. Right now I have [DISP] not supported scaler input pixel format:0 in Scaler_sw_para_to_reg1 in dmesg with 3.4 and your drivers |
| 06:56.45 | rz2k | ARM's just segfault |
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| 07:15.13 | rz2k | ssvb: could you please grep your dmesg for '[ccmu] try to set apb1 parent to sata_pll failed!' ? |
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| 09:03.53 | mnemoc | ssvb: I'm not very fond to import not-sunxi patchsets, but if the ML agrees... |
| 09:08.20 | mnemoc | nemik: boot.scr is optional, sunxi-bsp will build the hwpack fine anyway |
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| 15:34.06 | libv | hramrach: when X is up and running with mali, porting the test should be rather trivial |
| 15:35.29 | libv | figure out the proper nativewindow type for it, and find out how to set it up properly when you do so, then figure out a way to switch between both window types |
| 15:37.05 | libv | i am sure that the X11 native window type is going to pretty standard and definitely not as obscure and as the mali native window type was |
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| 16:07.44 | nemik | mnemoc: thanks, i commented out those lines from the hwpack script and it did build fine |
| 16:08.15 | mnemoc | you shouldn't need to comment out anything |
| 16:09.06 | mnemoc | the script will not fail if boot.scr is missing, it will only rant |
| 16:11.15 | nemik | oh? it failed for me, maybe it needs a fix. |
| 16:12.53 | mnemoc | Debian/Ubuntu hwpack |
| 16:12.54 | mnemoc | cp: cannot stat `build/boot.scr': No such file or directory |
| 16:12.54 | mnemoc | Done. |
| 16:13.00 | mnemoc | ^--- that is a success |
| 16:13.14 | mnemoc | output/ will have your hwpack |
| 16:14.15 | nemik | ahhh my bad, i was misreading it then |
| 16:14.30 | nemik | thanks |
| 16:14.36 | mnemoc | if you see the "Done." it went fine |
| 16:15.46 | nemik | so now that I have a hwpack, i'd like to compile android to make my own firmware i could flash with LiveSuite. so i did 'make android'. it was retrieving the CM repo for a while and then stopped at |
| 16:15.48 | nemik | build/core/product_config.mk:189: *** _nic.PRODUCTS.[[device/*/mk802ii/cm.mk]]: "device/*/mk802ii/cm.mk" does not exist. Stop. |
| 16:16.46 | mnemoc | sunxi-bsp still doesn't learn to generate device trees |
| 16:17.01 | mnemoc | you (still) need to make your own device/allwinner/$board/ |
| 16:18.06 | nemik | so in my case 'device/allwinner/mk802ii/' and then fill it with Android.mk and all that? is there a reference for the MK802 for this? |
| 16:19.00 | nemik | ah https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/android_device_allwinner_mk802ii this one? |
| 16:19.32 | mnemoc | that should work.... i think |
| 16:19.36 | mnemoc | it's from Turl |
| 16:20.59 | nemik | what is Turl btw? i hear it mentioned a lot |
| 16:21.11 | libv | nemik: /whois Turl |
| 16:21.53 | mnemoc | Turl: sorry, you are an "it" now |
| 16:23.30 | nemik | hah sorry, i thought it was a name for a service of some kind. hello Turl! thank you for the device tree |
| 16:24.14 | libv | what kind of services does Turl provide? |
| 16:24.27 | libv | or nm, i do not want to risk finding out |
| 16:25.05 | nemik | yea, this place doesn't quite have the same vibe as the fserve/xdcc channels |
| 16:26.52 | libv | well, there is always the nouveau fuc and the pvr perfserv |
| 16:27.42 | libv | oh, and pvr pdump |
| 16:29.05 | nemik | BTW, are you all using gcc-4.7 for the arm eabi builds? the sunxi uboot was failing with 4.4.3 for me, didn't try the ones inbetween |
| 16:29.29 | mnemoc | 4.6 here |
| 16:29.50 | nemik | hmm ok, i'll see how 4.7 turns out and re-compile if it's bad. |
| 16:30.13 | nemik | also, last night i had an error with: error: arch/arm/boot/compressed/piggy.gzip.o: unknown CPU architecture |
| 16:30.26 | nemik | applying this patch fixed it https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_kernel_samsung_tuna/commit/ec1ac589d49081286164246fbaaba0012ae7ecac |
| 16:31.18 | mnemoc | nemik: please send a mail to the ML about it |
| 16:31.46 | nemik | should i file a github issue? |
| 16:31.57 | mnemoc | no, ML |
| 16:32.27 | nemik | will do, any specific format to follow or just what i told you guys? |
| 16:32.52 | mnemoc | describe the problem and point to the proposed fix |
| 16:33.14 | nemik | sorry, which ML, the sunxi one or general arm-netbook@lists.phcomp.co.uk ? |
| 16:33.24 | mnemoc | linux-sunxi one |
| 16:33.54 | nemik | alright |
| 16:43.06 | hramrach | libv: you will probably have to open a X window and pass it the the GL call |
| 16:43.24 | hramrach | not hard but Mesa demos do that so just use those |
| 16:44.01 | hramrach | so in the end the demos work but gnome refuses to start the accelerated WM |
| 16:44.14 | hramrach | and does not tell you why, of course. |
| 16:45.37 | nemik | oh goddamnit, android requires x64 doesn't it? |
| 16:46.28 | nemik | no wonder the prebuilts aren't executing :( |
| 16:47.34 | buZz | can pandaboard do lvds + hdmi dual output? |
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| 17:30.51 | mnemoc | techn: hi, what was the patchset from you I still have pending? |
| 17:31.47 | mnemoc | techn: serial driver patches 1,2 and 3? |
| 17:32.12 | techn | mnemoc: One moment.. I'll eat first :) |
| 17:32.18 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:32.23 | techn | 30mins or so :) |
| 17:32.28 | libv | hramrach: _i_ would first have to set up things properly to work with X, which means more time away from lima. |
| 17:32.30 | mnemoc | np |
| 17:33.06 | libv | which is why i am hoping that someone else will port this for X, so that people can quickly and easily test that things work |
| 17:33.12 | hramrach | libv: things work with X just fine |
| 17:33.31 | libv | if you have done the setup, yes- |
| 17:33.42 | hramrach | just a note somewhere that the test program only works with bf so far is fine |
| 17:34.00 | hramrach | I did no setup |
| 17:34.01 | libv | i have q3a running just fine on FB, and i am now working on bringing it up on lima. |
| 17:34.23 | hramrach | not more than replacing the libmali |
| 17:34.46 | hramrach | they smehow can't combiine the X11 EGL and fb EGL in one lib |
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| 17:37.09 | libv | the note will never happen. |
| 17:37.15 | libv | the test should get fixed. |
| 17:37.49 | libv | if people depend on it only working on fb, it will never get fixed. |
| 17:38.41 | libv | it's like with the openchrome people and my stance on modesetting |
| 17:38.48 | libv | the whole planet took up my view on modesetting |
| 17:38.59 | libv | but not before openchrome forked away |
| 17:39.33 | libv | and openchrome is still struggling to put their mess together, they have 3 independent codepaths to do modesetting and none works properly |
| 17:39.55 | libv | as the users just try one of them until it works, only when none of them works is there a complaint |
| 17:49.13 | techn | mnemoc: food is cooking.. [PATCH 0/4] Serial driver patches -> 1, 3 |
| 17:49.51 | techn | hans implemented 2 a bit differently.. let's use that so it wont conflict |
| 17:50.01 | mnemoc | ok |
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| 18:37.30 | barqux | uhm, ok. So whats really required to draw some sort of graphics in the framebuffer |
| 18:37.32 | barqux | ? |
| 18:38.21 | barqux | I'm thinking opengl/video |
| 18:43.41 | andoma | barqux: nothing really .. just setup opengl and draw |
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| 18:50.12 | barqux | andoma: and with mali400? since we all want hardware acceleration? |
| 18:54.52 | andoma | barqux: yeah sure |
| 18:56.22 | andoma | look at some examples |
| 18:56.25 | andoma | http://malideveloper.com/files/Mali_OpenGL_ES_2.0_SDK_for_Linux_On_ARM_v1.2.0.9310_Linux.tar.gz |
| 18:56.28 | andoma | there's something |
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| 18:59.53 | barqux | and I need to handle the driver aswell.. Which I've read is a proprietary blob? |
| 19:00.24 | mnemoc | that's all in the inocent "just setup opengl" part of the reply |
| 19:01.24 | mnemoc | see http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400 for details |
| 19:01.25 | andoma | i don't have a good example right now |
| 19:02.16 | mnemoc | asuming you are asking about allwinner socs |
| 19:04.32 | mnemoc | techn: manager? :< |
| 19:04.47 | techn | mnemoc: you are ;) |
| 19:04.52 | mnemoc | doh |
| 19:04.53 | techn | kinda |
| 19:06.25 | techn | correct that if you feel bad :) |
| 19:06.45 | mnemoc | nah |
| 19:07.47 | mnemoc | i'm kind of fuzzy about what's my current "role" here... but just didn't expect to be the manager-wannabe :p |
| 19:08.15 | RaYmAn | you can be 'our' linus ;) |
| 19:08.22 | mnemoc | *g* |
| 19:08.24 | techn | well.. someone needs to be guardian :) |
| 19:09.22 | mnemoc | :) |
| 19:12.59 | techn | mnemoc: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/linux-sunxi/DTc9HkzzNdE/KXNVNs3nCj8J ( PATCH 1/2 ) , should be good too :) |
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| 19:13.48 | mnemoc | welcome ithamar |
| 19:13.57 | ithamar | hello mnemoc |
| 19:14.56 | techn | ithamar: hi :) |
| 19:15.29 | ithamar | hi techn |
| 19:15.47 | barqux | mnemoc: yes, the allwinner a10, ty |
| 19:16.35 | techn | ithamar: your image unpacking/packing tool is the best.. It works with a13 images too :) |
| 19:17.06 | ithamar | techn: nice! Only tested it with a10 images so far (have 8 A10 tabs here) |
| 19:17.42 | ithamar | would have done more work on it, but got distracted by a payed contract (non-Allwinner related sadly) |
| 19:18.06 | techn | I haven't tested image flashing yet.. how well that part works? |
| 19:18.19 | ithamar | that's the biggest part that's work in progress |
| 19:18.20 | nemik | so the android code contains "android/device/allwinner/mk802ii/BoardConfig.mk:TARGET_KERNEL_CONFIG := mk802ii_crane_defconfig" |
| 19:18.27 | libv | ithamar: hrm... your ip is dutch. |
| 19:18.36 | ithamar | libv: I _am_ dutch |
| 19:18.48 | libv | ithamar: then hi, i believe we talked about some telechips tablets soon 2 years ago |
| 19:19.52 | nemik | but that does not seems to exist in linux-sunxi/arch/arm/configs/. should i change this to 'sun4i_crane_defconfig'? |
| 19:20.05 | libv | i sending that "smartbook" mess i was trying to use over to naobsd, and then used a haipad over adb instead of trying to hook up serial |
| 19:20.24 | libv | +ended up |
| 19:20.39 | techn | ithamar: now I got that other mail :D |
| 19:20.58 | mnemoc | nemik: yes, that should do |
| 19:21.11 | ithamar | libv: I'm still hoping to get around to pushing my Telechips mainline support (tcc92xx,tcc88xx) |
| 19:21.33 | libv | ithamar: really? |
| 19:21.44 | ithamar | libv: yup, have all the basics running |
| 19:21.48 | libv | i have three haipads here now, simply because that's what my documentation was written on |
| 19:22.21 | libv | ithamar: i do not suppose that there is working userspace mali drivers available for a gnu system? |
| 19:22.45 | ithamar | techn: I'm hoping to have some time for the flashing part for A10 tabs over the weekend.... assuming RL leaves me alone ;) |
| 19:22.54 | libv | that would mean that i might be more tempted to keep mali200 support up to date |
| 19:23.41 | ithamar | libv: not that I am aware of currently :( |
| 19:24.32 | libv | crap, little chance of ever having fully tested mesa support for mali-200 then |
| 19:24.43 | ithamar | libv: Now I must be honest and say that I've only been doing Android lately, so I might have missed out on something |
| 19:25.26 | libv | you're statement just now was the first useful sign of life i noticed on telechips in a year |
| 19:25.39 | ithamar | heh |
| 19:25.42 | libv | that soc is soon, what, 3 or 4 years old |
| 19:25.56 | ithamar | well, there's the 8920 or such |
| 19:26.01 | libv | i grabbed one of those square tv boxes off of ebay as well |
| 19:26.09 | libv | ah, but those are already mali-400 i suppose |
| 19:26.22 | ithamar | I think they are indeed |
| 19:26.29 | ithamar | have one 7" tab with that, but haven't had the chance to look closer |
| 19:27.16 | libv | the only secret that hw different than the A10 can offer me on the mali side is mp2-4, and even then it will not be too earthshattering :) |
| 19:27.26 | libv | so the a10 does me well for mali work in the meantime :) |
| 19:28.24 | ithamar | yeah I can imagine libv |
| 19:28.46 | libv | ithamar: get yourself a proper irc client (irssi), and run it in screen somewhere, there's loads of interesting stuff flying past in this channel. |
| 19:29.30 | ithamar | libv: will do, just doing the web thing right now as I'm in a hotel on my laptop |
| 19:29.34 | libv | the freenode web interface is not going to suit things too well |
| 19:29.36 | ithamar | will set things up nicely over the weekend |
| 19:29.41 | libv | ok :) |
| 19:29.41 | ithamar | hehe I know |
| 19:31.18 | ithamar | so should my image packing/repacking stuff be merged into sunxi-tools? |
| 19:31.35 | ithamar | what would be the best place to put it? |
| 19:32.13 | techn | ithamar: it would be great.. your repo would be great replacement of https://github.com/linux-sunxi/allwinner-tools |
| 19:32.33 | ithamar | well, it is a start at least |
| 19:33.07 | techn | that repo is closed source only.. but since your repo has everything allwinnet-tools has.. we don't need that :/ |
| 19:33.30 | ithamar | please understand awutils is very much a work in progress... |
| 19:33.44 | ithamar | lots of time spent in IDA and such to figure things out |
| 19:33.50 | ithamar | pets UsbSnoop too ;) |
| 19:34.34 | mnemoc | please add http://linux-sunxi.org/LiveSuit_images to your TODO :p ... that page is begging for some info about the format |
| 19:35.24 | ithamar | mnemoc: ah yeah that page ;) |
| 19:35.49 | andoma | ithamar: is it possible to read out data using the same protocol? |
| 19:36.19 | techn | ithamar: do you know something about those other tools.. seems that they are trojans? |
| 19:36.33 | ithamar | andoma: yes it is, I've seen traces of that |
| 19:36.55 | mnemoc | ithamar: :) |
| 19:37.35 | techn | atleast f-secure antivirus warned about trojan :( |
| 19:37.54 | ithamar | techn: unimg.exe is not, it is probably picked up by anyvirus because it has some smart "obfuscating" applied |
| 19:38.19 | ithamar | techn: it did not look nice in IDA either |
| 19:39.55 | ithamar | techn: unimg.exe is okay, but generates absolutely useless filenames... |
| 19:40.22 | ithamar | techn: imgrepacker.exe was my initial reference, much more useful, but crashed on a couple of my images :( |
| 19:41.43 | ithamar | andoma: techn: once I can find some time I'll update the fes tool with the new commands I discovered |
| 19:42.26 | ithamar | the tool currently uses AW_FEL_1_READ/WRITE commands, but there seems to be a version "2" of those commands these days |
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| 19:43.19 | Marex | fuck :/ |
| 19:43.25 | mnemoc | amen |
| 19:43.26 | ithamar | LiveSuit also seems to be writing a SYS_PARAM structure to the storage that includes the "add sum" checksums of images |
| 19:43.29 | Marex | android 4.1.2 won't fit the MK802 anymore |
| 19:43.39 | Marex | I just rebuilt it from scratch and the flash is too small |
| 19:43.44 | ithamar | Marex: start slimming it down |
| 19:44.04 | ithamar | Marex: probably the media (ringtones and such) would be an easy way to start |
| 19:44.05 | Marex | ithamar: yea, that's about the only option |
| 19:44.23 | ithamar | Marex: there's plenty of "fluff" in a full AOSP build |
| 19:44.24 | mnemoc | ithamar: is it possible (for future) to extend your tools to support larger partitions? |
| 19:44.37 | techn | Cool.. does awutils have tools to replace these https://github.com/linux-sunxi/allwinner-tools/tree/master/bins (re-checked repo) |
| 19:44.45 | ithamar | mnemoc: should not be a problem |
| 19:44.52 | mnemoc | awesome |
| 19:44.59 | techn | or are those even needed when we have your way to flash? |
| 19:45.05 | ithamar | mnemoc: the SYS_PARAM thing I just mentioned contains the partition layout too |
| 19:45.24 | mnemoc | iirc allwinner tools have arbitrary limits |
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| 19:46.29 | mnemoc | but having free software tools, who cares about the limits of the proprietary ones |
| 19:46.32 | mnemoc | :) |
| 19:46.42 | ithamar | hehe |
| 19:47.12 | ithamar | techn: they might be needed at first, but integrating them into the flashing tools would be pretty easy |
| 19:47.31 | ithamar | techn: some of those I already have sources for |
| 19:47.42 | ithamar | FileAddSum is really stupidly simple |
| 19:48.10 | ithamar | mkbootimg is probably just the one from the AOSP tree |
| 19:48.32 | ithamar | u_boot_env_gen is in the u-boot source tree I think |
| 19:49.17 | techn | yes :) I was going to replace those with opensource ones when I have booting image |
| 19:49.25 | ithamar | and there's already mbr tooling in https://github.com/linux-sunxi/sunxi-tools iirc |
| 19:50.27 | Marex | I take it for android, I still need the old allwiener kernel binary, right ? |
| 19:50.46 | ithamar | so all the tabs in the sunxi-boards dir boot from with linux-sunxi kernel repo? |
| 19:51.20 | ithamar | Marex: that's what I am interested in as well ;) |
| 19:52.39 | ithamar | Marex: In theory you should be able to use a self-build kernel, as long as it has the Android "extensions" enabled |
| 19:52.54 | ithamar | Marex: But I have not tried that in practice yet so far |
| 19:53.05 | ithamar | sees a busy weekend coming up |
| 19:53.07 | Marex | let's see where I can get with all this crap |
| 19:53.15 | techn | ithamar: these we have "nb's" http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/sunxi-3.0/latest/ |
| 19:54.04 | techn | ithamar: but I think those all should work fine, if there is u-boot implementation for that board |
| 19:54.38 | mnemoc | I only build hwpacks for boards with u-boot config and verified .fex... |
| 19:55.32 | ithamar | There's a real prob with those chinese tab manf. |
| 19:55.37 | mnemoc | but the kernel defconfig needs so serious love to be interesting for real life |
| 19:56.04 | ithamar | If they change the hardware, they only update the kernel, and not the sys_config stuff on a regular basis |
| 19:56.27 | ithamar | have two tabs with different touchscreen chips, but the sys_config is exactly the same |
| 19:56.49 | ithamar | they just insmod a different driver in the init.rc in android :( |
| 19:57.05 | mnemoc | :| |
| 19:58.46 | ithamar | well, soon there are 3 POV tablets and 3 Coby MIDs supported in your tree |
| 19:59.34 | ithamar | have the hardware back home, will see if I can get booted on those from SD card first |
| 20:00.10 | ithamar | promises to send a pull request ;) |
| 20:00.58 | mnemoc | please use a10meminfo to get proper dram_para info and verify/complete the .fex |
| 20:01.21 | ithamar | there are instructions about that on the wiki? |
| 20:02.18 | mnemoc | not yet... but it's basically to run https://github.com/maxnet/a10-meminfo/blob/master/a10-meminfo-static as root on android |
| 20:02.46 | mnemoc | and then compare the output with the script.fex's [dram_para] section |
| 20:04.00 | techn | get that .fex to correct folder, add board to u-boot, http://linux-sunxi.org/FirstSteps#sunxi-bsp .. use ie. http://releases.linaro.org/12.11/ubuntu/precise-images/alip as rootfs .. and voila you should have booting linux sdcard |
| 20:04.42 | techn | we need samekind system for android too :) |
| 20:04.54 | techn | and also flashable images :) |
| 20:05.03 | ithamar | hehe |
| 20:05.15 | ithamar | I'll do my best to get things started on that |
| 20:05.16 | mnemoc | we need a hell of a lot of things :) |
| 20:05.23 | ithamar | but I'll probably need some help |
| 20:06.04 | mnemoc | the linux-sunxi ML and this channel is eager to help you ;-) |
| 20:06.24 | ithamar | appreciated ;) |
| 20:07.09 | techn | no presure anyways.. great to have you onboard :) |
| 20:07.20 | ithamar | okidoki, thanks for all the information guys (and girls, in the odd chance that there's one here) |
| 20:07.36 | ithamar | I have to get off but.... I'll be back ;) |
| 20:08.33 | mnemoc | wonders if the is a girl here |
| 20:09.02 | mnemoc | cu ithamar |
| 20:09.14 | ithamar | well, a friend of mine in Canada can confirm that there _are_ women interested in this stuff.... just not many :P |
| 20:09.24 | ithamar | cu mnemoc ! |
| 20:09.29 | mnemoc | :) |
| 20:27.59 | barqux | how come I don |
| 20:28.04 | barqux | *don |
| 20:28.17 | barqux | **don't have a /dev/mali |
| 20:33.00 | mnemoc | maybe you didn't load the module? |
| 20:34.15 | barqux | I don't have a module although CONFIG_MALI=m |
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| 20:40.39 | WarheadsSE | if you don't have the module, then you're missing something |
| 20:41.08 | mnemoc | barqux: find /lib/modules -name 'mali.ko' |
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| 20:46.55 | barqux | mnemoc: yes, just put CONFIG_MALI400=m, rebuilt all and found it. Turns out that there is no r3p0 for armel, which means that I'll have to redo this with armhf :D |
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| 21:16.55 | WarheadsSE | kernel is float agnostic. |
| 21:17.42 | andoma | r3p0 for armel would be sweet |
| 21:17.52 | andoma | i'm stuck with armel for other reasons |
| 21:20.28 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 21:20.34 | barqux | actually, I was just thinking about building r3p2 for armel but I'm wondering about the arch config.h needed by UMP |
| 21:21.18 | mnemoc | barqux: unless you have access to the NDAed DDK you can't build the libs yourself |
| 21:22.08 | barqux | well that |
| 21:22.14 | barqux | is not going to happen then |
| 21:27.24 | mnemoc | techn: why the 2/2 input:touchscreen:ft5x_ts not? |
| 21:29.33 | techn | mnemoc: drachensun reported some regression.. havent yet investigated it |
| 21:29.52 | mnemoc | ok |
| 21:30.26 | barqux | mnemoc: btw, where does the mali/ump libs currently offered come from? |
| 21:30.39 | mnemoc | barqux: allwinner |
| 21:30.53 | mnemoc | via the cubieboard team |
| 21:30.59 | drachensun | The one patch had x stop treating the touch as a mouse point, which seemed to not work as well |
| 21:31.36 | mnemoc | drachensun: if you have kernel commits pending, now is the time :) |
| 21:32.43 | drachensun | gotcha, I'll get back to today then |
| 21:33.32 | drachensun | get back to that today I mean |
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| 22:27.16 | buZz | does A10 support hotplugging SATA? :D |
| 22:28.10 | traeak | i think so |
| 22:28.18 | buZz | ha, sweet |
| 22:28.21 | techn | hmm.. latest kernel seems pretty snappy |
| 22:28.22 | buZz | lemme try |
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| 22:29.30 | buZz | ah |
| 22:29.39 | buZz | at least cubie didnt crash when plugging it in (Y) |
| 22:29.54 | mnemoc | o.o |
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| 22:37.34 | buZz | and works fine :) |
| 22:45.11 | nemik | hello, trying to compile android for sun4i_crane is failing for me at : make[1]: *** No rule to make target `/home/build/code/sunxi-bsp/android/out/target/product/mk802ii/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libMali_intermediates/export_includes', needed by `/home/build/code/sunxi-bsp/android/out/target/product/mk802ii/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/gralloc.sun4i_intermediates/import_includes'. Stop. |
| 22:45.37 | nemik | i've been googling the problem for a while but have not yet found any solution. has anyone encountered this before? |
| 22:59.23 | traeak | when i used to have just home on sata i do recall plugging/unplugging the drive occasionally |
| 23:03.51 | nemik | traeak: yup, i hotplugged them too, in fact the ports were external |
| 23:07.50 | hramrach | libv: I guess it's more useful to try and make mesa demos compile on non-mesa |
| 23:08.27 | hramrach | looking at the code cahnges required to build it will just run if I install Mesa egl/gles/ compile, install malie, run |
| 23:08.43 | hramrach | which is stupid |
| 23:09.06 | hramrach | and it will be all moot when lima is there |
| 23:09.17 | hramrach | no demo for *** blob required anymore |
| 23:09.56 | libv | it's not a demo |
| 23:10.01 | libv | it's a quick test. |
| 23:10.56 | nemik | so this is probably cheating, but i 'solved' the above problem by making that /home/build/code/sunxi-bsp/android/out/target/product/mk802ii/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/libMali_intermediates/ directory |
| 23:11.07 | libv | a quick test to verify that the freshly installed binaries are working. |
| 23:11.21 | nemik | and then inside just 'touch'ing import_includes and export_includes |
| 23:11.31 | hramrach | mesa-demos has several such tests |
| 23:11.48 | libv | actually, a quick test of env for DISPLAY, should provide the runtime switching |
| 23:12.00 | libv | hramrach: which work oh so nice on the fb version of the mali libs. |
| 23:12.19 | hramrach | yes, they don't work at all there |
| 23:12.56 | hramrach | I could import the code to do the X11 stuff from mesa butthen I would have to reserach licensing |
| 23:13.05 | hramrach | which is immensely stupid too |
| 23:14.05 | hramrach | the file says (c) tungsten graphics. All rights reserved :s |
| 23:17.45 | libv | eglplatform.h has the definitions for X |
| 23:18.40 | hramrach | I mean the code that uses them |
| 23:19.52 | libv | all you need is get a display and a window |
| 23:21.10 | hramrach | yeah, of courese. it's like a screenful or two of code. And debugging until it does what the mesa demos do |
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| 23:38.33 | libv | hramrach: http://www.opengl.org/wiki/Programming_OpenGL_in_Linux:_GLX_and_Xlib |
| 23:38.42 | libv | works for me on my main machine |
| 23:39.06 | libv | i am sure that the relevant parts can be plucked from that |
| 23:39.34 | nemik | damnit, i think i'm stuck now. i got "No rule to make target `/home/build/code/sunxi-bsp/android/out/target/product/mk802ii/obj/lib/libMali.so', needed by `/home/build/code/sunxi-bsp/android/out/target/product/mk802ii/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/gralloc.sun4i_intermediates/LINKED/gralloc.sun4i.so'. Stop." |
| 23:39.59 | nemik | is this where i have to use ADB to pull out the libmali.so inside the actual device? with extract-files.sh? |
| 23:40.01 | libv | there is some noise when closing it, but otherwise it seems quite fine |
| 23:40.22 | nemik | and if i do that, won't it not be compatible with the new kernel? |
| 23:40.38 | rz2k | nemik: contact Turl and Quarx |
| 23:40.51 | rz2k | they did android for a10 for quite long time |
| 23:41.39 | nemik | so should i contact them directly rather than post to this channel? |
| 23:41.39 | libv | goes back to kicking lima varying mapping until it works |
| 23:45.43 | rz2k | Turl is here right now, he reads the logs |
| 23:47.28 | rz2k | nemik: also try https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team |
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| 23:51.48 | nemik | thanks. Turl: would copying the existing libMali.so libs from a 3.0.8 lichee stock build work when trying to build latest sunxi-bsp android ? i thought the kernels were different |
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