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| 00:21.23 | nulluser | Greetings, I was wondering if anyone has been able to get the realtek 8192cu drivers to compile in linux-sunxi-3.4. I'm having a lot of trouble with the module dropping out under heavy load. Had the same problem in 3.0.52, with the realtek driver. Any other suggestions for that wifi module would be very welcome. |
| 00:22.55 | nulluser | Here is what I'm working on if any one is interested. Just need to setup an onboard regulator and it's done. http://www.junklet.net/html/make_page.php?n=xbot |
| 00:23.12 | nulluser | Provided I can keep the wifi link up for more than a few minutes at a time ;) |
| 00:41.14 | libv | which einstein created a wikipage with openssl info in our wiki? |
| 00:43.56 | libv | ah, it seems that there is supposed to be some hw support... but why these separate pages? |
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| 02:04.52 | techn_ | nulluser: you can try to drop power save functinonality |
| 02:05.55 | nulluser | You mean tx power? |
| 02:06.16 | nulluser | The driver ignores when I try to iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M |
| 02:06.23 | nulluser | But I will check out tx power |
| 02:06.49 | techn_ | or try to increase idle mhz |
| 02:07.58 | nulluser | You think it's an over heating problem? |
| 02:08.31 | techn_ | I'm thinkin that cpu cant handle incoming trafic at proper speed |
| 02:08.43 | nulluser | I got ya |
| 02:09.41 | nulluser | I did compile cpufreq in, but the data is not listed in /proc I think I'm going to go back to 3.0.52 for now |
| 02:11.01 | nulluser | Interesting, it does crash faster at higher data rates. Like it can handle X data, and then drops |
| 02:11.07 | nulluser | Which is actually very possible ;) |
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| 06:14.24 | orly_owl | os seagate goflex the only external hdd that fits into the sata dock on mele a1000/2000? |
| 06:15.07 | orly_owl | s/os/is/ |
| 06:16.00 | orly_owl | =D |
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| 06:42.53 | toxicpsion | anyone in here happen to have a handy link for the mele/a2000 GB 1.6 Firmware? getting 404 on mele.cn |
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| 08:37.14 | RITRedbeard | is there an up-to date mk802 sdcard image hosted somewhere? |
| 08:52.13 | orly_owl | maybe |
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| 09:04.26 | _xvilka | moin |
| 09:04.58 | _xvilka | where is link for EOMA68 schematics/pcb? i've seen it before, but can't find right now |
| 09:07.52 | rm | RITRedbeard, I'd point you to mine, but if you are picky and need "up-to-date" then it probably wouldn't be good enough for you |
| 09:08.59 | rm | e.g. a 3.0.42 kernel and Debian Wheezy from couple of months ago are up-to-date or not |
| 09:09.24 | rm | and if they aren't, is it really difficult to run apt-get upgrade |
| 09:09.31 | rm | and install a new kernel |
| 09:09.59 | RITRedbeard | I have friends on slashnet having wireless problem |
| 09:10.27 | RITRedbeard | i'm going to try the nightly hwpack and use linaro as rootfs |
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| 13:05.48 | slapin | hi, all! |
| 13:05.58 | slapin | is Christmas over, or not yet? |
| 13:06.19 | penguin42 | yep |
| 13:06.53 | slapin | cool, I can read mail then |
| 13:07.07 | penguin42 | yep |
| 13:12.30 | specing | finaly |
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| 14:11.22 | slapin | got another scsi streamer |
| 14:11.42 | slapin | hates russian post |
| 14:11.52 | slapin | s/streamer/tape drive/ |
| 14:39.47 | Turl | hi everyone :) |
| 14:41.47 | mnemoc | hi Turl, slapin, penguin42 |
| 14:42.59 | Turl | hopefully I'll have some time today to finish DT-izing my minimalistic clock driver :) |
| 14:43.32 | penguin42 | hey mnemoc |
| 14:43.55 | penguin42 | bah the supermarket was out of their dirt cheap tablets; apparently they went in 2 hours this morning |
| 14:44.02 | Turl | heh |
| 14:44.36 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:44.41 | Turl | is still waiting for omap5 devices |
| 14:45.00 | penguin42 | these were dual core A9 (1.6GHz) rockchip things for 49GBP |
| 14:45.26 | mnemoc | my daughter loves her exynos5 chromebook :) |
| 14:46.06 | Turl | mnemoc: you make me want a chromebook :< |
| 14:46.30 | Turl | wonder how well would it run gnome3 |
| 14:46.35 | specing | Omap5 is a dead end |
| 14:46.47 | specing | TI fired 1700 people off their OMAP devision |
| 14:46.55 | penguin42 | specing: True, however it's not a bad chip as is |
| 14:47.26 | Turl | specing: it's been in the making for ages, that makes omap6 a dead end |
| 14:47.42 | specing | yup |
| 14:47.56 | specing | is currently playing with TI's stellaris :) |
| 14:48.10 | Turl | btw |
| 14:48.23 | Turl | I still haven't seen the 'year of the linux desktop' prophecies yet |
| 14:49.07 | mnemoc | techn_: hi, can you take a look at hdegoede's hdmi patchset? |
| 14:49.17 | jelly-home | Turl: here's a prophecy: it will never happen, the desktop will die before linux gets there |
| 14:49.50 | Turl | it's highly unlikely that the desktop will die |
| 14:50.12 | jelly-home | die for common usage; developers and IT workers will still have a need for it |
| 14:50.28 | Turl | still doubt it |
| 14:50.33 | penguin42 | even there the laptop might win |
| 14:50.40 | Turl | it's like saying tv will die because of the internet, idk |
| 14:51.07 | jelly-home | Turl: when you say desktop, you mean the UI paradigm, right? |
| 14:51.09 | penguin42 | most devs like laptops, and these days a laptop with 16GB RAM and a quad core and decent graphics is easy to get |
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| 14:52.10 | Turl | jelly-home: I mean the black box with one or more monitors, a keyboard and a mouse that you have on a physical desk at home/work/office |
| 14:52.47 | penguin42 | Turl: I think the black box might die to be replaced by laptop, but still with a physical desk, monitor/keyboard |
| 14:52.53 | jelly-home | Turl: yeah, you don't need a keyboard or a mouse to use a tablet or a larger tactile input/output device |
| 14:53.31 | penguin42 | slaps jelly-home with my Model-M |
| 14:53.32 | jelly-home | and that's what people will use to consume their cat videos in 5 years time |
| 14:53.35 | slapin | mnemoc: hi |
| 14:53.40 | Turl | yeah but tactile I/O and tablets aren't good at all for data entry, word processing, long emailing, etc |
| 14:54.16 | Turl | and gamers will still buy PCs |
| 14:54.23 | jelly-home | Turl: which is what IT workers, from data entry upwards, will keep using |
| 14:54.30 | mnemoc | even my 8yo prefers to connect a usb keyboard to her tablet when writing an email... |
| 14:55.25 | Turl | tablet/phone email usage is useful at most for acking or small comments |
| 14:56.01 | jelly-home | who uses email? People write short senseless messages on their facebook or twitter. |
| 14:56.19 | penguin42 | jelly-home: Oh yeh. |
| 14:56.53 | jelly-home | is a mail admin, trying to get himself out of the job |
| 14:58.11 | Turl | I use email still |
| 14:58.12 | jelly-home | 90% of the business correspondents can't even read or write mail properly if it's longer than half a screen. I'm not deluding myself things will get better. |
| 14:58.18 | Turl | jabber for the senseless short messages |
| 14:58.28 | jelly-home | of course you do, you're a developer of some sort |
| 14:58.51 | jelly-home | but think 5-10 years ahead |
| 14:59.52 | Turl | yeah, for programming and academic stuff, main communication media is email |
| 15:00.10 | jelly-home | and that's where it's going to remain |
| 15:00.31 | Turl | for small messages, jabber on android devices |
| 15:00.38 | Turl | SMS is dead :) |
| 15:00.42 | penguin42 | although lots of programming gets done via irc/chat and messages on bug tracking/sourec control systems |
| 15:01.09 | Turl | irc is good, yeah |
| 15:01.26 | Turl | it can be quicker than email at times |
| 15:02.28 | penguin42 | where I work we have internal irc and internal IM stuff, and frankly there are plenty of people who NEVER reply to email |
| 15:03.58 | jelly-home | how do you keep track of stuff wirtten over IM? |
| 15:04.18 | Turl | usually if I can reach people over IRC I don't mail them much |
| 15:04.25 | Turl | jelly-home: logs? every IM client/service has them |
| 15:04.52 | Turl | it's not the most functional thing ever, but it can come in handy |
| 15:05.15 | jelly-home | aggregating the text sources and finding where something was said can be tricky |
| 15:05.49 | Turl | gmail makes it easy |
| 15:06.09 | penguin42 | jelly-home: Stuff that needs to get tracked happens in comments in bug trackers etc, and documents, and yes some email |
| 15:07.02 | penguin42 | jelly-home: But it really works being able to go 'hey what did you actually mean by that paragraph in that design' and then have a chat via IM before they nail in a revised doc, especially since I work mostly with people in different countries/continents |
| 15:08.22 | penguin42 | Turl: One problem is that the black boxes have stopped getting much faster; I bought this i7-860 desktop 3 years ago, it would be a push for me to get a machine twice as fast at a similar price point |
| 15:08.23 | jelly-home | penguin42: that's what we have at work; ideally if it didn't happen in the tracker, it doesn't exist; still the stuff you worked out over IM or mail needs to be commented on in a more "official" way |
| 15:09.03 | penguin42 | jelly-home: Yep, although the IM works a lot better than a teleconference say |
| 15:09.34 | penguin42 | used to buy a new desktop every 3-4 years and hope for a 4-5 times performance improvement |
| 15:09.58 | Turl | penguin42: that was like.. ultimate top of the line 3 years ago, no wonder it's still fast :) |
| 15:10.23 | penguin42 | Turl: Not quite, the i7-9xx series were the top, this was a good 200gbp less |
| 15:10.39 | Turl | 9xx was last year wasn't it? |
| 15:10.44 | penguin42 | Turl: but what would be ultimate top of the line now? I think you can get a 6 core 3.5GHz sandybridge |
| 15:10.52 | penguin42 | Turl: No, they've gone to 4 digit now |
| 15:11.06 | Turl | http://ark.intel.com/products/41316/Intel-Core-i7-860-Processor-8M-Cache-2_80-GHz |
| 15:11.14 | penguin42 | yep, that's the fella |
| 15:11.15 | Turl | Q3'09 |
| 15:11.26 | Turl | so it was fresh out of the gate |
| 15:11.53 | Turl | penguin42: sandy is old, latest is ivy bridge |
| 15:13.02 | Turl | this is top of the line I'm guessing http://ark.intel.com/products/71096/Intel-Core-i7-3940XM-Processor-Extreme-Edition-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz |
| 15:13.52 | Turl | their embedded graphics have improved quite a bit, might be worth the swap if you use them |
| 15:14.39 | penguin42 | Turl: Except you can't get the ivy in 6 core - so it's a hard toss up |
| 15:16.29 | Turl | but it has 8 threads!1one! |
| 15:16.42 | penguin42 | my current i7 has 8 threads |
| 15:17.04 | Turl | this one is their top of the line for us people without golden trees on their backyard http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz |
| 15:17.16 | Turl | /their/our/ |
| 15:18.21 | penguin42 | Turl: The i7-860 was a lot cheaper than the http://ark.intel.com/products/37153/Intel-Core-i7-975-Processor-Extreme-Edition-8M-Cache-3_33-GHz-6_40-GTs-Intel-QPI that was the top of the line at the time |
| 15:18.45 | penguin42 | Turl: I tend to go for the ones that are the fastest before the price starts going up silly |
| 15:19.01 | jelly-home | huh, that "extreme edition" doesn't have AES-NI and my i5-660 does |
| 15:19.42 | Turl | jelly-home: eh? I see it listed |
| 15:20.21 | Turl | ah, the one penguin42 linked |
| 15:20.33 | Turl | jelly-home: notice the launch date, Q2'09 |
| 15:20.58 | penguin42 | yeh, that was the fastest at the time I got my i7-860 |
| 15:22.13 | jelly-home | Turl: ah. Mine's newer, Q1'10 |
| 15:23.17 | jelly-home | 6 months apparently gives you things VT-d and AES-NI even in the older generation cpus |
| 15:23.37 | penguin42 | slightly more on topic, I don't suppose anyone happens to know any Aarch64 machine code? |
| 15:24.33 | Turl | nope |
| 15:24.44 | Turl | but assembly all looks alike |
| 15:25.27 | penguin42 | I've got a little Android disassembler app that I was going to add aarch64 to and wanted an instruction to test with |
| 15:27.05 | Turl | http://board.flatassembler.net/download.php?id=5698 |
| 15:27.09 | Turl | maybe it'll help |
| 15:28.16 | penguin42 | yeh, I'll probably find a kernel or soemthing and disassemble - there must be one around - I like to find a neat sounding instruction as an example |
| 15:31.51 | penguin42 | what boring instruction names |
| 15:34.05 | penguin42 | old arm at least you could get a SWINE instruction |
| 15:35.19 | Turl | can't beat intel's SCASB I guess |
| 15:35.53 | penguin42 | scasb? |
| 15:36.27 | Turl | SCAn String Byte |
| 15:36.57 | penguin42 | Turl: http://www.treblig.org/pocketdisassembler/ are my current examples; PPC has it's famous eieio, s390 has a zap |
| 15:38.01 | Turl | nice :) |
| 15:39.10 | penguin42 | hmm, Aarch does have zip1, I wonder if I can get that |
| 15:40.52 | Turl | VRSQRTS |
| 15:40.58 | Turl | nice instruction |
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| 15:41.40 | Turl | the SIMD mnemonics are fun to read |
| 15:41.46 | linaro | do you know if any webcams work with the Allwinner A10? I seem to be getting errors when I try |
| 15:42.25 | linaro | mostly this sw_hcd_urb_enqueue, ep packet is too big, maxpacket = 5120 |
| 15:42.57 | penguin42 | Turl: Yeh |
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| 17:52.30 | jelly-home | would MK802 sticks have a tendency to overheat? I'm not sure why mine's stuck in a sort of reboot loop (no SD card, default firmware, still haven't wired up jtag) |
| 17:53.24 | jelly-home | ambient temp is around 20°C, not too much |
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| 18:00.31 | nulluser | Yes, there are overheating problems with the MK802 |
| 18:01.16 | mnemoc | jelly-home: A10 devices without apx tend to overheat |
| 18:01.23 | mnemoc | axp* |
| 18:02.40 | mnemoc | it was a bad idea and they fixed it with their mk802+ |
| 18:03.27 | jelly-home | guess I'll have to take the board out of the case and stick a small heatsink on the soc |
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| 18:05.41 | mnemoc | people suggested injecting a gel or something like that |
| 18:05.52 | mnemoc | but i'm not familiar with the topic |
| 18:14.58 | penguin42 | you can get some heatconducting special rubber pads that might be easier to retrofit |
| 18:23.18 | jelly-home | there seem to be metal-less thermal gels that are not electrically conducive |
| 18:23.56 | jelly-home | I could fill the box with that crap... that's what Commodore 64 power bricks did ;-) |
| 18:26.24 | nulluser | That overheating drove me nuts because I was messing with newer kernels, and could not figure out if the kernel or the device was causing the problem. |
| 18:31.11 | nulluser | I finally figured out that is ran fine outside of the case with a fan blowing on it |
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| 19:52.40 | techn_ | mnemoc: have you seen Hans in irc? |
| 19:53.01 | mnemoc | not that I know |
| 19:53.23 | penguin42 | Turl: I went with ubfiz in the end http://www.treblig.org/pocketdisassembler/ |
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| 21:09.20 | Turl | penguin42: :) |
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