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| 00:30.52 | niftylettuce_ | oliv3r: https://teelaunch.com/#pricelist added our pricelist /cc Mehhh |
| 00:31.06 | niftylettuce_ | oliv3r: do you know contact info for drachensun and hipboi? |
| 00:34.13 | mnemoc | hipboi cubieboard org |
| 00:34.34 | mnemoc | for drachensun, check pengpod site |
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| 00:45.24 | ganbold | hi |
| 00:54.28 | niftylettuce_ | awesome cool :) |
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| 01:03.15 | buZz | wow! |
| 01:03.18 | buZz | awesome :D |
| 01:03.29 | buZz | is building a motorola lapdock laptop ;) |
| 01:33.07 | Marex | buZz: that's completely s00per ! |
| 01:44.03 | buZz | hehe, s00p |
| 01:44.20 | buZz | actually, i could use some soup, bbiab |
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| 02:15.01 | xxiao | A1x is merged to 3.8 kernel |
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| 03:41.50 | ganbold | why u-boot loads script.bin? is it needed for later OS except linux? |
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| 03:56.46 | WarheadsSE | it sets up the parameters for the kernel on the a1x chips |
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| 04:08.40 | ganbold | WarheadsSE: without it linux doesn't boot further except printing few messages |
| 04:08.54 | WarheadsSE | correct. |
| 04:11.07 | ganbold | WarheadsSE: which basically means linux doesn't find necessary addresses etc |
| 04:11.54 | WarheadsSE | it looks, its empty, problem. |
| 04:15.02 | ganbold | WarheadsSE: I see, when I try to run other OS with script.bin, it seems like problem too |
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| 04:17.03 | WarheadsSE | Kernels (linux or android) need that to be loaded. |
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| 04:18.59 | WarheadsSE | WarheadsSE | it sets up the parameters for the kernel on the a1x chips |
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| 12:12.40 | oliv3r | hipboi: I think my payment didn't properly go through, my bank still says it's on hold by ali-express though, so can't pay it a second time? I think it failed due to not matching postal addresses. Let me know if I need to do something again? |
| 12:15.06 | mnemoc | oh, a hipboi! :) |
| 12:18.16 | orly_owl | \o/ |
| 12:25.29 | hipboi | oliv3r: what do you refer? |
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| 13:10.52 | andoma | anyone ever seen this? dma11: channel has nothing loaded |
| 13:11.00 | andoma | related to HDMI audio |
| 13:11.25 | andoma | hm |
| 13:11.28 | andoma | seems easy to reproduce |
| 13:11.40 | andoma | just pause/unpause alsa playback fast |
| 13:12.00 | andoma | this is on 3.0 |
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| 13:20.21 | oliv3r | hipboi: i received an e-mail from ali-express that my payment was not successfull, but my bank shows my money still on hold by ali-express |
| 13:22.18 | rz2k | banks release money from hold within two weeks |
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| 13:40.33 | Yaku | hey there, btw. does anyone know if the mele got gpio´s ? |
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| 13:49.38 | mnemoc | no |
| 13:53.50 | Yaku | thx, was just thinking if it´s possible to somehow attach a 433mhz transmitter to it but i guess in that case i really need to get a rPI or arduino |
| 13:54.36 | Yaku | would be nice to remoteswitch all poweradapters or recieve temperatures from the wireless temperature and humity transmitters around the house |
| 13:55.26 | mnemoc | you have the cubieboard and the olinuxinos for that |
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| 16:00.26 | Turl | nice trailer http://www.indiegogo.com/SoftwareWars |
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| 16:28.00 | L84Supper | are the cubieboards actually shipping yet? |
| 16:28.06 | buZz | mine is on a plane! |
| 16:28.09 | buZz | towards me |
| 16:28.10 | buZz | so, yes |
| 16:28.19 | focus_well | where is mine then |
| 16:28.27 | L84Supper | so shipping and almost arriving |
| 16:28.36 | buZz | did you nag to get the tracking number? |
| 16:28.37 | buZz | i did :P |
| 16:29.11 | focus_well | :( I want one on a plane |
| 16:29.24 | L84Supper | they didn't "sell out" after the first 100 orders? :) |
| 16:29.31 | buZz | there are over 1000 made now |
| 16:29.40 | buZz | i think mine is number ~800 something |
| 16:31.52 | L84Supper | have the Hackberry boards shipped yet? |
| 16:33.14 | L84Supper | and is it true that the Hackberry has no GPIO? |
| 16:33.23 | buZz | i thought hackberry was just the mele a1000 ? |
| 16:33.31 | buZz | without a case |
| 16:33.38 | jinzo | it's the LY-F1 board yes |
| 16:33.55 | focus_well | hackberry has no sata - a1000 has sata - strange |
| 16:33.58 | buZz | so i am right? |
| 16:34.00 | buZz | ah |
| 16:34.36 | L84Supper | wasn't there a third a10 board that is just the board from a tablet? |
| 16:34.53 | buZz | there are many a10 boards |
| 16:35.26 | jinzo | and many of them are LY-F1 like board |
| 16:36.19 | L84Supper | any GPIO on those tablet boards? |
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| 16:36.49 | jinzo | afaik no |
| 16:37.13 | mnemoc | L84Supper: the gooseberry |
| 16:37.32 | L84Supper | yeah, thats the one |
| 16:37.49 | mnemoc | then miniand decided to make a tablet board without tablet... |
| 16:38.03 | mnemoc | weird people |
| 16:38.12 | jinzo | I think that currently the only way to get A1X board with gpio is A13 olinuxino from olimex |
| 16:38.21 | jinzo | but I may be wrong |
| 16:38.55 | L84Supper | cubioboard says it has GPIO |
| 16:39.03 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:39.12 | mnemoc | but availability is still scarse |
| 16:39.40 | Turl | mnemoc: are we listing all the A1X devices on the front page? |
| 16:39.43 | jinzo | that's what I was thinking |
| 16:39.43 | L84Supper | http://gooseberry.atspace.co.uk/?page_id=13 |
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| 16:40.03 | jinzo | something you can actually order/get in reasonable time |
| 16:40.19 | mnemoc | Turl: the idea was to list the boards developed by the community directly and then a category tree for the rest |
| 16:40.52 | Turl | mnemoc: what's this Net'sPC 2 then? :) |
| 16:40.57 | mnemoc | spam |
| 16:41.08 | Turl | want me to drop it from the home page? |
| 16:41.47 | mnemoc | unless someone here considers it worthy of frontpage space... |
| 16:44.34 | focus_well | if one of us make a tablet make sure it has flap that opens and a generous number of GPIO pins available to hand :-) |
| 16:45.15 | traeak | make sure the tablet actually works :-p |
| 16:45.27 | Turl | lol traeak |
| 16:45.37 | libv | the net'spc website is pretty... hairy |
| 16:45.43 | libv | so not community at all. |
| 16:46.48 | L84Supper | somebody should change the Topic to linux-sunxi.org |
| 16:47.53 | L84Supper | it still lists a bunch of vapor |
| 16:50.03 | Turl | libv: yeah it looks like scammy to me |
| 16:51.48 | Turl | the guy writing the wiki page also wrote a translation to zh_tw |
| 16:53.31 | jinzo | oh also as a side note mnemoc - TSevan |
| 16:53.41 | jinzo | s/TSevan/tsvetan/ |
| 16:54.08 | jinzo | at olimex said they have a A10s board in developement (but they don't know if they'll even producte the A10 or A10s version) |
| 16:54.30 | jinzo | but, this means A10s is truly in the wild, even if allwinner is joking around with the product pages |
| 16:56.00 | mnemoc | jinzo: he needs to make something very special to compete with the cubieboard, and that's hard |
| 16:56.27 | mnemoc | 2GB and full IO would make a nice diff |
| 16:56.38 | mnemoc | the cubie misses tons of pins |
| 16:56.43 | jinzo | yeah I know I know, just saying - if nothing else they have quite a lot of experiance with manufacture and that's a plus too. |
| 16:56.49 | mnemoc | but no one has ever made a 2GB A10 |
| 16:57.24 | mnemoc | jinzo: not sure if 4 layers was a good idea :| |
| 16:57.50 | L84Supper | olimex also decided to layout in 4 vs 6 layers using kicad and also go with 2GB ddr3 |
| 16:58.12 | L84Supper | nothing like changing several variables at once on the first try |
| 16:58.24 | jinzo | probably a cost reduction (or raither they can produce 4layer PCBS and not 6 ones - who would know) |
| 16:58.31 | L84Supper | on a cpu with virtually no docs |
| 16:58.55 | mnemoc | L84Supper: he hates to follow reference designs |
| 16:58.59 | L84Supper | if you're making boards in volume 6 is about the same price as 4 |
| 16:59.29 | jinzo | I'm preatty sure he didn't do it "for the kicks" - or maybe he did, who would know :D |
| 17:00.00 | mnemoc | i guess his usual factory can't do 6 |
| 17:00.03 | L84Supper | they only make simple boards, this one looks like a stretch for them, have to see what trouble they get into |
| 17:00.58 | L84Supper | https://www.olimex.com/ AM3352-OLinuXino preliminary schematic is complete |
| 17:01.30 | jinzo | yep, that's beaglebone SoC |
| 17:02.05 | L84Supper | I wonder if the olimex form factor will be any better than the beaglebone |
| 17:03.19 | L84Supper | the only way the beaglebone could have been worse is it if was curved or had something like a steering wheel permanently attached |
| 17:03.37 | jinzo | haha :D |
| 17:07.48 | Turl | mnemoc: I'm attempting to clean up the bug tracker a bit |
| 17:07.58 | Turl | mnemoc: was this merged/sent to ML? https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/issues/99 |
| 17:08.28 | Turl | libv: ^ |
| 17:10.53 | slapin_ | hi, all! |
| 17:11.50 | slapin_ | can anybody explain me how NTP works, especially about loop filter. I'm going to intervew and need to have some charm |
| 17:12.25 | slapin_ | I need offsec calculation algorithm, not average papers... |
| 17:13.06 | slapin_ | and yes, I've read RFC, but probably did not understood it fully, and read ntpdate source, which is even more intriguing |
| 17:13.11 | slapin_ | Marex: |
| 17:23.17 | Turl | techn is on a roll :) |
| 17:23.54 | techn | Turl: I noticed that you killed couple issues.. and started look them my self :p |
| 17:27.26 | mnemoc | Turl: no, it hasn't |
| 17:28.02 | mnemoc | Turl: mostly because it works just fine on my builds |
| 17:28.24 | Turl | are you building disp? |
| 17:28.38 | mnemoc | I hope so |
| 17:28.44 | Turl | drivers/video/sunxi/disp# ls ../../../../power/axp_power/axp-gpio.h |
| 17:28.44 | Turl | ls: cannot access ../../../../power/axp_power/axp-gpio.h: No such file or directory |
| 17:28.44 | Turl | drivers/video/sunxi/disp# ls ../../../power/axp_power/axp-gpio.h |
| 17:28.44 | Turl | ../../../power/axp_power/axp-gpio.h |
| 17:28.47 | mnemoc | i build defconfigs |
| 17:28.51 | Turl | the patch does make sense |
| 17:29.01 | Turl | are you building disp on sun5i? |
| 17:29.03 | mnemoc | if disp is not in defconfig that's also a bug |
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| 17:53.34 | L84Supper | http://www.eetimes.com/electronics-news/4403161/Intel-leapfrogs-ARM-for-now-with-Atom-server-SoC?pageNumber=1#190099 |
| 17:54.12 | L84Supper | these articles are so deceptive |
| 17:55.28 | L84Supper | http://semiaccurate.com/2012/12/14/intel-and-arm-vendors-start-server-war-of-words/ |
| 17:58.13 | L84Supper | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/08/13/xeon_vs_calxeda_arm_apache_bench/ |
| 18:03.49 | mnemoc | Turl: http://www.amazon.com/Kaser-NetsPC-YF810-8G-Desktop-Black/dp/B008PJV77S Processor 1 GHz A-Series Eight-Core A10-5700 |
| 18:04.07 | mnemoc | now cortex-a8 means 8 cores?!?! |
| 18:04.44 | Turl | ha |
| 18:04.48 | Turl | 0 GB 1 rpm Hard Drive8 GB Solid State Drive! |
| 18:05.00 | Turl | I bet I can store a lot of stuff on a 0GB disk |
| 18:05.24 | slapin_ | Turl: as your imagination permits |
| 18:05.35 | slapin_ | Turl: all of it is imaginary anyway |
| 18:05.53 | slapin_ | 1 rpm is interesting too |
| 18:06.42 | Turl | yeah they spin it 1 time per minute just for the lulz |
| 18:06.45 | Turl | as it's solid state :) |
| 18:07.20 | slapin_ | my old DAT drive seems to rotate 80 times faster, that's cool! |
| 18:08.07 | slapin_ | mean the one used for backups verly long time ago |
| 18:08.42 | slapin_ | Turl: solid state doesn't mean you can't spin it! |
| 18:09.02 | slapin_ | Turl: why 1 rpm? I bet I can spin it 1000 rpms! |
| 18:09.27 | slapin_ | would be dead bored of something spinning at 1rpm |
| 18:09.32 | slapin_ | damnit |
| 18:12.49 | L84Supper | so 8GHz ARM (8 cores x 1 ghz) :) |
| 18:13.58 | L84Supper | but it's a solid state drive, they spin really slow, that's how they load balance the flash |
| 18:14.04 | lkcl__ | all right! board compile time! |
| 18:14.25 | Turl | lkcl__: mnemoc was worried it doesn't look pcmciaish |
| 18:14.55 | L84Supper | "0 GB 1 rpm Hard Drive8 GB Solid State Drive" not sure what good a 0 GB SSD drive is even if it's 1 RPM |
| 18:16.13 | lkcl__ | Turl: it isn't. it's too big. we know |
| 18:16.35 | lkcl__ | this is revision 0 |
| 18:16.43 | Turl | :) |
| 18:17.24 | lkcl__ | *shrug*. i made a mistake. told wits-tech "it has to be 85x55mm and here's the contact for litkconn" |
| 18:17.57 | lkcl__ | then they made the PCB 85x55mm and i assumed that they'd know to contact litkconn and ask what the PCB size should be |
| 18:17.58 | lkcl__ | oops. |
| 18:18.16 | slapin_ | lkcl__: and what happened? |
| 18:18.27 | lkcl__ | slapin_: they made the PCB 85x55mm |
| 18:18.52 | lkcl__ | when it should be around 75mm x 48mm in order to fit into a litkconn case. |
| 18:18.53 | lkcl__ | whoops :) |
| 18:19.03 | Turl | if they can charge you for the work twice it's better for them :P |
| 18:19.18 | lkcl__ | we kinda worked it out with them - no there's no charge |
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| 21:38.02 | Marex | slapin_: wat ? |
| 22:11.44 | techn_ | Turl: |
| 22:12.11 | techn_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:12.58 | WarheadsSE | those are always fun! |
| 22:13.25 | WarheadsSE | techn_: what prog |
| 22:17.07 | techn_ | android |
| 22:17.37 | techn_ | in function WebCore::DOMWindowAttrs:V8DOMWindow.cpp |
| 22:22.18 | WarheadsSE | mm |
| 22:22.23 | WarheadsSE | slightly out of my area |
| 22:22.49 | techn_ | packages/apps/Settings/src/com/android/settings/bluetooth/BluetoothPermissionActivity.java:101: cannot find symbol |
| 22:22.49 | techn_ | symbol : variable REQUEST_TYPE_MESSAGE_ACCESS |
| 22:22.56 | techn_ | another problem.. :p |
| 22:23.20 | techn_ | Turl: should that android bsp work? |