| 00:03.17 | jelly-home | only during the retelling of a greek myth, wasn't it |
| 00:03.47 | ManoftheSea | No. Butterfly wings. |
| 00:04.01 | jelly-home | that was the one |
| 00:04.08 | ManoftheSea | oh, Icarus, yes. |
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| 00:52.09 | joe1 | im running into some trouble building a kernel for an mk802 is anyone around who might be able to help? |
| 00:53.32 | joe1 | it builds, and even boots but USB doesn't seem to be working |
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| 03:12.22 | ManoftheSea | hey joe1. I'm working on the mk802ii myself. |
| 03:12.34 | joe1 | I actually found the issue since then |
| 03:12.38 | joe1 | I was on just an mk802 |
| 03:12.39 | ManoftheSea | cool. |
| 03:12.45 | joe1 | but its somewhat documented |
| 03:13.04 | joe1 | https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/issues/103 |
| 03:13.05 | ManoftheSea | I'm not able to get a full system up on the first try, so now I'm waiting for a usb-ttl-uart |
| 03:13.35 | joe1 | does it boot enough to get a boot log? |
| 03:13.50 | joe1 | I fortunately was getting far enough that the OS was booted it just wasn't getting on to the wifi |
| 03:13.58 | ManoftheSea | where would I find that? on the SD? |
| 03:14.04 | joe1 | yeah |
| 03:14.06 | joe1 | in /var/log |
| 03:14.14 | joe1 | if you're running arch its either boot.log or boot |
| 03:14.29 | ManoftheSea | debian. I hadn't thought to check that. |
| 03:15.23 | ManoftheSea | nah, it's not getting the kernel up. |
| 03:15.40 | joe1 | bummer |
| 03:16.57 | ManoftheSea | I don't suppose the a10 does anything over USB as it comes up? |
| 03:17.17 | joe1 | no not that ive seen |
| 03:18.04 | joe1 | what I've been doing is starting from a working image and making relatively small changes |
| 03:18.41 | joe1 | I've not bothered soldering lines onto uart yet, hoping I don't have to those pads are awfully small |
| 03:18.49 | ManoftheSea | hmm. I should try that then. |
| 03:19.06 | joe1 | for somereason i thought the mk802ii was an A13 is that true? |
| 03:19.21 | ManoftheSea | um. |
| 03:19.26 | ManoftheSea | It has HDMI |
| 03:20.35 | ManoftheSea | where are the builds? |
| 03:20.47 | joe1 | oh jeez i dunno |
| 03:21.55 | joe1 | hmm |
| 03:22.06 | joe1 | have you tried out the default ubuntu image? |
| 03:22.10 | ManoftheSea | what working image did you use? |
| 03:22.18 | ManoftheSea | No, that's what I'm saying I'm looking for right now. |
| 03:22.24 | ManoftheSea | cnx-software? |
| 03:22.26 | joe1 | http://liliputing.com/2012/07/new-ubuntu-image-for-the-mk802-is-pretty-usable.html |
| 03:22.26 | joe1 | gotcha |
| 03:23.35 | joe1 | I've been working with this image (boots on my mk802) http://blog.kernelpicnic.net/2012/08/28/arch-linux-on-the-mk802-part-6/ but it requires some tweaking to get it onto a network, and doesn't have a display |
| 03:24.26 | ManoftheSea | um, so I found dl.linux-sunxi.org/nightly/ |
| 03:24.35 | ManoftheSea | but all the mk802 images are .log files |
| 03:25.58 | joe1 | https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/1 |
| 03:26.04 | joe1 | so I'd suggest starting from here |
| 03:26.24 | joe1 | because I'm not sure you can use mk802 images on an mk802II |
| 03:28.25 | ManoftheSea | If I just put it on an SD, it won't hurt, right? |
| 03:28.30 | joe1 | right |
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| 07:46.32 | guesticulate | hi all! how do I get armhf in Debian for compiling a10? instructions anywhere? |
| 07:50.04 | rellla | guesticulate: http://linux-sunxi.org/Debian |
| 07:52.47 | guesticulate | rellla |
| 07:52.49 | guesticulate | Thanks! |
| 07:53.14 | guesticulate | nice name ... Ummmb rellla :D |
| 07:53.50 | rellla | never thought about it ;) |
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| 08:54.59 | Lantizia | i've pulled apart my netbook hoping to find a port i can use to reflash it with something else... can't see anything on the internal board itself |
| 08:55.33 | Lantizia | however there is an external port I could never figure out... it kinda looks like a microsd port but isn't - it had a usb logo next to it but they put a black dot over the symbol to cover it up |
| 08:55.37 | Lantizia | any ideas what it might be? |
| 09:01.31 | guesticulate | hey, I modprobed touchscreen ft5x_ts ... loaded successfully... touch still not working. any ideas? i'm using 3.0.52 and def_config |
| 09:03.04 | guesticulate | syslog says: 'CONFIG_FT5X0X_MULTITOUCH is defined.' |
| 09:21.59 | Lantizia | this mysterious port I'm trying to identify seems to have been made by 'astron' - but it doesn't say what it is |
| 09:22.32 | Lantizia | however flip the board over and it's right on top of the nand flash i think - a hy27ut088g2a |
| 09:32.20 | oliv3r | so it looks like SD and USB but it is niether? |
| 09:32.28 | oliv3r | can you trace the connections and see where it goes? |
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| 09:41.26 | binarym | hi, i bought an arm netbook from french online store Cdiscount. Brand is "oceanic", hard is CortexA9 1.5.ghz with 1Go RAM |
| 09:41.37 | binarym | does anybody got some infos about this hardware ? |
| 09:41.44 | binarym | (it runs Android ICS) |
| 09:42.00 | binarym | i'm looking for the key press to get recovery menu |
| 09:42.12 | binarym | or UBoot/whatever hack to boot from ssd |
| 09:43.32 | mnemoc | you'll probably have to open it and see |
| 09:44.36 | binarym | mnemoc: really ? but ... see what ? |
| 09:45.19 | mnemoc | the SoC and the posibility of getting an uart |
| 09:45.56 | binarym | hmmm ... this is a bit overkill for me :( (and i have no skills in electronic ... ) |
| 09:46.13 | binarym | i just want to gain root on my ICS to install "debian kit" on it :( |
| 09:46.38 | mnemoc | in general, unless your device is VERY well supported by open communities, you can't do much without a serial console |
| 09:47.45 | binarym | i'm quite sure that bootloader is UBoot |
| 09:47.59 | binarym | since i saw some messages in dmesg about uboot parameters |
| 09:48.00 | mnemoc | gpl violating one most likely |
| 09:48.29 | mnemoc | first of all you need to indentify the SoC |
| 09:50.14 | binarym | mnemoc: what you call SoC is cpu ? |
| 09:50.55 | mnemoc | the SoC is a big chip with several controllers inside, one of them is the general purpose processor normally called cpu |
| 09:51.02 | binarym | ok |
| 09:51.18 | binarym | i can browse /proc fs on my android device |
| 09:51.44 | binarym | for CPU, i got "ARMv7 Processor rev 0 (v71)" and "Hardware: WMT" |
| 09:52.28 | binarym | in /proc/devices i have many mentions of "wmt-*" devices |
| 09:53.10 | binarym | i see a "rda5990_power_ctrl" device too |
| 09:53.56 | mnemoc | probably a WM8850 then |
| 09:54.18 | binarym | is VT1603 a valid SoC name ? |
| 09:54.25 | binarym | i can see that on my dmesg |
| 09:54.43 | mnemoc | google says VT1603 is your TS |
| 09:55.26 | mnemoc | you can probably find how to root WM8850 android devices googling a bit |
| 09:56.15 | binarym | ok, i'm gonna do that thx for the pointers :) |
| 09:57.19 | mnemoc | yw |
| 09:58.12 | binarym | it seems as if the solution is on the SD port ... |
| 10:03.28 | binarym | mnemoc: it seems that i have to write some uboot commands to a wmt_scriptcmd |
| 10:03.48 | binarym | is it possible to write a wmt_scriptcmd that would only dump uboot config to screen ? |
| 10:07.03 | mnemoc | binarym: the "screen" is not a natural periferal of arm devices. it's very unlikely you can get u-boot writing anything there |
| 10:07.24 | mnemoc | at most a bitmap, but most of the times not even that |
| 10:07.40 | binarym | i guess there's no way to make uboot dump its config to SD too ? |
| 10:07.59 | binarym | my pb is that i would like to save config at first, to be able to rollback |
| 10:08.15 | binarym | i could dump /dev/mtd/mtd<device of uboot> |
| 10:08.35 | binarym | but since i'm not root on the device (android shit) i can't access this files |
| 10:08.38 | mnemoc | find out where u-boot's env is stored too |
| 10:09.44 | mnemoc | getting something written to the card is less unlikely, but still not likely |
| 10:10.04 | binarym | cat /proc/mtd tell me "mt3 size1 size2 "u-boot env. cfg 1-SF" |
| 10:10.11 | binarym | s/mt3/mtd3/ |
| 10:10.32 | binarym | and i have the same for mtd4, with 2-SF |
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| 10:10.57 | binarym | oh and i have mtd2 with "u-boot-SF" |
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| 11:32.31 | aholler | binarym: search for something called fw_env. it's part of u-boot. |
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| 11:55.38 | libv | something tends to go and eat up quite a lot of memory on my mele |
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| 11:57.19 | libv | my feeling is that disp is not cleaning up properly |
| 11:59.03 | libv | it stops me from compiling a 4096x4096*3 texture at this time :( |
| 12:00.27 | libv | 290MB used after a few days uptime and whatnot, 69 used after a fresh boot |
| 12:08.17 | libv | mkswap to the rescue it seems |
| 12:11.49 | libv | as even 245MB free is not enough for gcc to generate this 48MB .o |
| 12:14.24 | Mehhh | zRam? |
| 12:15.06 | libv | dd, mkswap, swapon should do the trick |
| 12:15.23 | rz2k | looks like libv trying to break my A10 load average record? http://distilleryimage11.s3.amazonaws.com/e4c63ac6227f11e2900e22000a1cbaa0_7.jpg :p |
| 12:15.36 | libv | i only need to this a few times until i have figured out mipmapping |
| 12:15.47 | libv | rz2k: nope, not even close |
| 12:16.03 | libv | rz2k: 70% waiting for swap to be written out to mmc |
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| 12:16.28 | libv | 580MB virtual already for compiling this file |
| 12:16.33 | libv | ooh, 640 |
| 12:16.43 | libv | it must've just mmapped the output file |
| 12:17.26 | libv | i am such a tosser, i could compile this just fine in ram on my a7hd |
| 12:17.32 | libv | why am i wasting my time on the mele |
| 12:17.45 | libv | *sigh* |
| 12:22.10 | Mehhh | 512 device? |
| 12:22.27 | libv | 1GB meles are very rare still |
| 12:22.33 | libv | so yes |
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| 12:38.18 | rz2k | we had around a guy with one |
| 12:38.23 | rz2k | he posted pics at wiki |
| 12:38.44 | libv | yeah, he had the 3700 |
| 12:39.07 | libv | i have 30MB swap left at this point, and it is still compiling |
| 12:39.11 | libv | 830MB virtual |
| 12:39.40 | libv | it's just a big array, wtf is it wasting its time on |
| 12:40.04 | andoma | hno: the mk802ii in u-boot is for devices with 1gb ram, right? |
| 12:41.03 | andoma | from what i can understand in board/allwinner/mk802ii/dram.c |
| 12:41.24 | andoma | and for the 512 MB verions there would need to be an additional dram setup function |
| 12:41.32 | andoma | s/an additional/a different/ |
| 12:43.52 | rz2k | libv: when you RE'd the original Mali libs, did you found any hardcoded register/platform definitions? |
| 12:45.09 | libv | rz2k: there are some |
| 12:45.16 | libv | rz2k: which i probably did not encounter |
| 12:45.18 | rz2k | I'm asking that out of interest for the exsynos4 future with mali-400mp4 linux missing at all, only libs for vithar module (that combined mali-t6xx/400/200 kernel driver) are available. |
| 12:45.27 | libv | rz2k: it's worth a try |
| 12:45.38 | libv | rz2k: but it could very well be that only a single pp is used at all times |
| 12:45.39 | rz2k | they didnt even try to load the mali-400 only drivers |
| 12:45.52 | rz2k | my odroid will arrive at monday |
| 12:46.29 | libv | hrm... the question is, does the allwinner egl use fb or disp? |
| 12:46.52 | rz2k | android one? |
| 12:47.08 | rz2k | linux lib uses fb hardcoded, afaik. |
| 12:47.38 | libv | fb |
| 12:47.43 | rz2k | I believe our libs are just plain DDK output without anything changed. |
| 12:47.44 | libv | strings confirms that |
| 12:48.13 | libv | the few registers that are passed to kernel space are pretty standard across mali400 |
| 12:48.21 | libv | the rest is kernel interface |
| 12:48.35 | libv | where memory lives and how much is available is also passed from the kernel to userspace |
| 12:48.50 | libv | so it should be mostly SoC agnostic |
| 12:49.00 | rz2k | interesting, so there is chance for making something out of exynos... |
| 12:49.45 | libv | ok, 13mb swap left, it will kill itself soon |
| 13:05.10 | mnemoc | andoma: there are 512MiB versions of the mk802ii?? |
| 13:07.11 | andoma | maybe it's a mk802i ? |
| 13:07.44 | andoma | i have two . the look exactly the same except that one says "mk802+" on front (1gig ram) and one says "mk802" (512mb ram) |
| 13:08.30 | mnemoc | thenthe mk802+ is an mk802/1GiB + PMU |
| 13:08.36 | mnemoc | s/then// |
| 13:08.52 | mnemoc | the mk802ii is a different animal (ports wise) |
| 13:09.04 | andoma | ah ok |
| 13:09.55 | andoma | so there's no support for those mk802 in u-boot or can another board be used for those |
| 13:10.12 | mnemoc | the mele's should run fine |
| 13:10.26 | andoma | ah, both for 512 and 1gig? |
| 13:10.30 | mnemoc | or you can submit mk802 support |
| 13:10.49 | mnemoc | no, only for the 512 |
| 13:11.10 | andoma | ok i'll play around with that a bit then thanks |
| 13:12.54 | mnemoc | the easiest path is to extract the script.bin, convert it to .fex, then run a10-meminfo on android, fix the [dram_para] section, submit the .fex to sunxi-boards, and then I add support for it in both, the bsp and u-boot-linux |
| 13:20.35 | Mehhh | ibot what |
| 13:20.35 | ibot | idk |
| 13:20.58 | Mehhh | yes you can |
| 13:21.35 | Mehhh | look in the folders i literally just did them and edited a few |
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| 13:37.51 | slapin | mnemoc: hi |
| 13:38.03 | slapin | mnemoc: I want to clarify a few things |
| 13:39.43 | slapin | mnemoc: I now have 3 variants of mk802* clones - one with 512MB / no PMU, one with 1GB / no PMU, one with 1GB and PMU. |
| 13:39.54 | slapin | mnemoc: which one is which? |
| 13:41.20 | slapin | they all were in the same green boxes with android 4.0 mini pc |
| 13:42.00 | slapin | non-PMU versions have the same board layout. |
| 13:42.20 | slapin | actually, the same board |
| 13:43.46 | mnemoc | afaik no PMU means mk802 |
| 13:43.55 | mnemoc | 1GB+PMU = mk802+ |
| 13:44.13 | mnemoc | 1GB+PMU+extra usb = mk802ii |
| 13:44.16 | mnemoc | afaik |
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| 13:51.42 | rz2k | why just dont name it mk802_<ramsize>_pmu and mk802_ramsize_nopmu ? |
| 13:51.50 | rz2k | in u-boot configs |
| 13:52.19 | rz2k | 1gb pmu and no pmu will probably have same dram config. |
| 13:54.12 | mnemoc | i try to keep 1:1 mapping between u-boot board names and fex files... |
| 13:59.41 | mnemoc | wants a power bank with 18650 batteries than can be used "online" .... sniff sniff sniff |
| 14:01.02 | slapin | mnemoc: if you find one, pklease let me know |
| 14:01.12 | slapin | s/pklease/please/ |
| 14:07.32 | libv | yay. |
| 14:07.45 | libv | killed the kernel with a 4096x4096 texture :) |
| 14:08.24 | libv | got it to oops on the big texture :) |
| 14:10.05 | slapin | strange |
| 14:14.28 | rz2k | who oopsed? |
| 14:14.30 | rz2k | mali? |
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| 14:32.01 | libv | mali, yes |
| 14:32.59 | slapin | mnemoc: extra USB on mk802ii = 4 x usb ports, am I right? |
| 14:33.56 | slapin | mnemoc: 1xotg + 1 x host + 1 x wifi + 1 extra? |
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| 14:50.59 | andoma | slapin: looks like we're in the same boat |
| 14:51.15 | andoma | i've different mk802 as well trying to figure out what is what |
| 14:53.59 | mnemoc | slapin: i don't know in detail. I've never cared about those dongles |
| 14:54.20 | mnemoc | slapin: the but mk802ii has at least one extra usb port |
| 14:54.38 | mnemoc | while the ports of the other two are identical |
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| 16:07.07 | Mehhh | Guys, the MK802 has mini usb, MK802 II uses micro |
| 16:07.12 | Mehhh | what's so hard |
| 16:08.08 | Manofthe1ea | hmm? |
| 16:08.13 | Manofthe1ea | This seems relevent to my interests. |
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| 16:08.38 | Mehhh | also, the MK802's have two ram portions |
| 16:08.46 | Mehhh | the mk802ii's have 4 |
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| 17:42.01 | techn_ | mnemoc: is there something more blocking 3.4 kernel than that usb bug? |
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| 17:45.55 | mnemoc | techn_: the gadget code still hasn't been ported at all |
| 17:46.14 | mnemoc | needs to be factored out of android.c |
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| 18:28.48 | lkcl_ | first post on a slashdot article, w00t! wanted to do that for a looong time ha ha |
| 18:30.50 | traeak | sadly the rate of new SOC releases seems to be outpacing your ability to put them into a platform |
| 18:32.43 | traeak | btw i hope the best with that new more open SOC that has more integrated vector type instructions |
| 18:32.49 | lkcl_ | traeak: we'll get there. hey, you wanna do me a favour and point that out on slashdot? |
| 18:33.06 | traeak | pint out which ? the rate of soc releases you mean? |
| 18:33.21 | traeak | i gave up posting on /. you have to be one of the cool kids to ever get anywhere |
| 18:34.44 | L84Supper | don't feed the trolls |
| 18:35.11 | lkcl_ | traeak: what the heck - both of them. make them anonymouse. |
| 18:36.02 | traeak | sure |
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| 19:11.47 | lkcl_ | ta traek |
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| 19:19.01 | traeak | heh |
| 19:25.47 | Manofthe1ea | Anonymouse? Is that a squeek in the dark? |
| 19:26.34 | jelly-home | one step to tasty Anonymousse |
| 19:29.34 | Manofthe1ea | So... if I have an mk802ii, and I use the evb.bin from the mele... the worst that happens is that it doesn't boot, right? I'm not going to damage the board? |
| 19:29.43 | Manofthe1ea | I see I should probably modify the dram_size... |
| 19:30.02 | Manofthe1ea | Is there a reference for getting the script.bin from the mk802ii through the loaded android? |
| 19:30.05 | Manofthe1ea | googles. |
| 19:31.19 | RaYmAn | Manofthe1ea: mount nanda somewhere (can be done through a rooted adb shell), then copy it |
| 19:31.48 | Manofthe1ea | oh, cool. Thanks |
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| 20:11.19 | traeak | isn't USB3 fairly cpu intensive or does it have some new modes which offload better? |
| 20:11.32 | traeak | just reading about hanging sata, gigabit, etc off the usb3 host |
| 20:17.39 | lkcl_ | honestly don't know. it's pretty heavy-duty data rates so... |
| 20:18.20 | lkcl_ | isn't the data going over DMA in USB, so nothing to do with the processor? |
| 20:19.07 | traeak | ugh i'm over my head. if the usb3 implementation is clean (unlikethe lame assed raspberry pi) i think it should be mostly okay |
| 20:19.35 | lkcl_ | traeak: me too :) |
| 20:20.10 | lkcl_ | well... that's the fun part: this is entirely new. no kernel drivers. at all. pretty wild, huh? |
| 20:20.11 | traeak | so it sounds like the new SOC will be ready soon, just the fun of cost per unit and getting stuff manufactured with the new SOC |
| 20:20.43 | lkcl_ | yeah. it's going to *have* to be out fast. even 8 cores won't have a long shelf-life. |
| 20:20.58 | lkcl_ | it's a stepping-stone / proving-ground for the route to 28nm. |
| 20:23.14 | traeak | so my guess is that this will be smaller and more efficient than arm, etc |
| 20:23.42 | traeak | and hopefully they have proper licenses, etc with mips (or whoever) so there's no ip headaches |
| 20:25.19 | lkcl_ | in a word, yes. but not smaller and more efficient than a combined SoC+proprietary-GPU. but, there, we win on "ease of programming" and therefore on time-to-market |
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| 21:04.37 | Manofthe1ea | what are you referring to? |
| 21:04.46 | Manofthe1ea | no drivers, USB3? |
| 21:20.26 | Manofthe1ea | hmm... now I need help rooting the mk802. To GOOGLE! |
| 21:21.54 | Manofthe1ea | looks like it's pretty simple... "Type su" |
| 21:54.06 | jinzo | mnemoc, http://linux-sunxi.org/A10s#Comparison |
| 21:54.18 | jinzo | mnemoc, had the time to reformat it and add some additional information |
| 21:54.41 | jinzo | mnemoc, if it's good/better than before - copy it to the Main page and delete it from here |
| 21:55.15 | jinzo | ofcourse there is a lot of room for improvement |
| 21:56.10 | jinzo | and I'll try to work on it, maybe even something that can be auto generated from the templates that are used - will look into it |
| 21:57.10 | jinzo | mnemoc, and I think see also should be done as wikipedia has on some articles (eg, processors, and then all of them are listed instead of listing them) |
| 22:04.13 | jinzo | and it would probably be good idea to start categorizing information (for example A10:JTAG, boards/products with product:CubieBoard) |
| 22:04.37 | jinzo | or even A10:products:something, so we can do a good see also |
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| 22:18.50 | mnemoc | we have [[Category:Cubieboard]] and [[Category:A10]] and [[Category:Tutorial]] many other categories, but I've probably missed some pages |
| 22:19.33 | mnemoc | there is also a products category tree with [[Category:A10 Tablet]] for example |
| 22:19.54 | mnemoc | but sure it needs tons of love |
| 22:20.40 | mnemoc | the table looks nice, but misplaced |
| 22:21.07 | mnemoc | vertical is looks far nicer than before |
| 22:21.15 | mnemoc | like it :) |
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| 22:24.25 | mnemoc | wonders if http://dx.com/p/jesurun-j18-android-4-0-google-tv-player-w-wi-fi-1gb-ram-4gb-rom-hdmi-av-white-173109 is real A10s |
| 22:31.52 | jinzo | yes I know it's misplaced - but if I started there.. :P |
| 22:32.03 | jinzo | so I'll move it then |
| 22:32.30 | libv | mnemoc: ebay.de has a 10" netbook with boxchip a10 wm8850... |
| 22:33.00 | jinzo | there, moved it |
| 22:33.05 | libv | of course, the idiot selling it does not answer emails :( |
| 22:33.17 | libv | ah, i have seen similar devices with similar description |
| 22:33.45 | jinzo | mnemoc, in a week or so (when I have time, and if noone else does it before) I'll put some more work into it |
| 22:33.52 | libv | someone just has to bite the bullet and buy it i guess |
| 22:33.57 | jinzo | then I'll tackle the categories and stuff if you don't mind |
| 22:34.45 | jinzo | libv, you should see what I had to do to get some half-decent tablets for a company that asked me to order them from within of Slovenia |
| 22:34.52 | jinzo | like people don't want money or something |
| 22:37.01 | jinzo | on the side note: I can't believe it, two Allwinners SoCs have the same style of Block diagram |
| 22:37.25 | jinzo | surreal feeling that they in fact, can manage at least some consistency :D |
| 22:38.22 | lerc | Somewhere in China there is a company running a business model of having a customer base made entirely of people buying their products to see what they actually are. |
| 22:48.25 | libv | yeah, it is amazing the descriptions those chinese throw out |
| 22:48.32 | libv | that they have any sales at all |
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| 23:34.54 | hno | andoma, yes. |
