| 00:03.04 | L84Supper | ^^ looks and smells like a dongle |
| 00:06.33 | Mehhh | yeh |
| 00:06.46 | Mehhh | I can't wait for an A15 quad stick |
| 00:07.31 | discopig | that would be nice |
| 00:07.41 | discopig | and more ram |
| 00:07.51 | Mehhh | 2GB is plenty |
| 00:08.02 | Mehhh | considering, 32bit |
| 00:08.27 | discopig | yeah 2gb is what i meant |
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| 00:32.56 | L84Supper | http://www.technologyreview.com/news/508061/custom-chips-could-be-the-shovels-in-a-bitcoin-gold-rush/ CPU's that will pay for themselves |
| 00:34.12 | Turl | L84Supper: hasn't that been happening for like a year already? :) |
| 00:34.44 | L84Supper | Turl: I think they were only FPGA's until now |
| 00:37.15 | Turl | they killed bitcoin anyway, mining with 'normal' equipment is worth nothing these days :P |
| 00:37.59 | L84Supper | it's about the only thing not mentioned in yesterdays Slashdot article about the open CPU :) |
| 00:39.42 | Turl | L84Supper: lkcl_ hasn't offered a comment on his email signature yet :P |
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| 00:57.31 | Mehhh | XeonPhi /bitcoin |
| 01:47.56 | Mehhh | Does Lima work yet? |
| 01:48.12 | Mehhh | I stayed up all night watching someone in here talk about it but i passed out drooling on my keyboard |
| 01:49.44 | orly_owl | your kb still works then |
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| 03:51.14 | Mehhh | lol yes |
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| 06:00.15 | rm | http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/12/06/240-onda-v972-allwinner-a31-quad-core-android-tablet-with-9-7-retina-display/ |
| 06:00.31 | rm | so the next Allwinner chip uses PowerVR? |
| 06:01.29 | orly_owl | let's wait for the fsf soc |
| 06:01.53 | Mehhh | what about the a40? |
| 06:04.17 | orly_owl | link? |
| 06:06.16 | orly_owl | tablet has good specs though |
| 06:16.41 | Mehhh | http://www.new-dragon.cn/product.asp?id=74 |
| 06:22.11 | orly_owl | what vpu and gpu? just says opengl |
| 06:22.30 | libv | rm: ouch |
| 06:22.46 | libv | rm: imagination must be really desparate to sell it then |
| 06:24.34 | orly_owl | are there any nice ~7" allwinner tablets with good specs? |
| 06:25.43 | libv | ainol? |
| 06:25.57 | libv | get the aurora, 1024x600 IPS |
| 06:26.03 | libv | still needs bringup though |
| 06:26.24 | libv | hyundai A7HD has a weird layout, but is known good already |
| 06:26.59 | libv | every day i have to convince myself to not buy an ainol device for tablet bringup |
| 06:27.01 | Mehhh | holy crap |
| 06:27.02 | Mehhh | http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/12/03/2d3d-graphics-linux-demo-x11-egl-gles2-qt4-on-allwinner-a10-tablet/ |
| 06:27.32 | libv | Mehhh: that's using our code |
| 06:27.45 | Mehhh | I saw you guys talking about it last night. |
| 06:27.48 | Mehhh | :> |
| 06:27.51 | Mehhh | didn't realize that was you |
| 06:27.51 | libv | Mehhh: i'll make some noise today on phoronix |
| 06:27.54 | Mehhh | I love you. |
| 06:27.55 | libv | i have q3a |
| 06:27.58 | libv | no, that is not me |
| 06:28.07 | Mehhh | Oh, well then. It's complicated. |
| 06:28.15 | libv | but we have had some things working for a while already |
| 06:28.16 | orly_owl | is that demo using non-free code or blob for gpu or vpu? |
| 06:28.27 | libv | orly_owl: it is using the arm binary |
| 06:28.34 | libv | and gears is actually not that hard |
| 06:28.51 | libv | i just haven't bothered |
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| 06:29.07 | libv | multiple draws with a highish triangle count and lighting... |
| 06:29.12 | orly_owl | k |
| 06:29.40 | libv | i was at that stage at linuxtag already, but with a texture thrown into the mix |
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| 06:35.15 | Mehhh | so, can i throw these mali drivers on a deb image after dd |
| 06:35.34 | Mehhh | for use in the LXDE Deb image |
| 06:38.18 | libv | Mehhh: we would very much like this thing to be properly debianized |
| 06:38.53 | Mehhh | Oh, I was just going to throw them on there in my attempt at getting a #bodhilinux image working correctly |
| 06:39.09 | libv | i could do so, as i am the author of the only xorg drivers which ever got a debian/ tree included, namely unichrome and radeonhd, but i could do so many things |
| 06:39.52 | libv | and i would take as much time as anyone else doing so as well, as it's been 5ys |
| 06:43.11 | Mehhh | honestly, what i want doesn't exist, and that's X / framebuffer / deb / newwer kernel :P |
| 06:43.18 | Mehhh | So i'm trying to go back to the future |
| 06:43.46 | libv | so if anyone wants to spend an afternoon with debian packaging, this would be a real boon for linux-sunxi |
| 06:43.46 | orly_owl | get it up to 88mph then |
| 06:44.24 | Mehhh | libv, for the next two weeks i have all the time in the world |
| 06:44.33 | jquip | libv: am up for it |
| 06:45.08 | jquip | but no prior exp in debian packaging... can learn |
| 06:45.25 | libv | first make sure that you can use mali-libs as is |
| 06:45.45 | Mehhh | jq, deb is ez |
| 06:45.49 | Mehhh | apt ;P |
| 06:46.18 | jquip | haha :D Yeahhh |
| 06:46.25 | jquip | Mehhh |
| 06:48.24 | jquip | am working on u-boot-up-right-now-or-i-will-break-u |
| 06:49.00 | jquip | so i did this nice thing... i have a device which i have removed all the android partitions except nanda |
| 06:49.15 | jquip | nandb is my big fat rootfs |
| 06:49.32 | jquip | --------fastboot partitions-------- |
| 06:49.34 | jquip | -total partitions:2- |
| 06:49.37 | jquip | -name- -start- -size- |
| 06:49.38 | jquip | bootloader : 100000 1000000 |
| 06:49.41 | jquip | LROOTFS : 1100000 7c300000 |
| 06:49.43 | jquip | ----------------------------------- |
| 06:50.27 | jquip | copied files over.. |
| 06:50.30 | Mehhh | Has anyone tried compiling mainline? |
| 06:50.45 | jquip | but idiot that I am... i did not read up on u-boot |
| 06:51.38 | jquip | am a little lost on boot params.. |
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| 07:10.56 | jquip | any good reference guide to u-boot?? |
| 07:46.27 | Mehhh | i saw a good post about it on doozan |
| 07:46.42 | Mehhh | are you working with the mk802? |
| 07:50.23 | jquip | nope Mehhh sir :) its the h6 netbook |
| 07:50.41 | jquip | my kernel is loading bootm 48000000 |
| 07:51.00 | jquip | VFS: Cannot open root device "(null)" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 07:51.03 | jquip | Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available partitions: |
| 07:51.04 | jquip | nanda nandb |
| 07:51.12 | jquip | one step away!! |
| 07:51.41 | jquip | adding to bootargs nowww |
| 07:51.59 | Mehhh | did you compile the latest kernel? |
| 07:52.16 | jquip | nope |
| 07:52.19 | Mehhh | I def want to see if 3.6~ runs like a champ |
| 07:52.25 | jquip | its very old actually |
| 07:52.53 | jquip | 3.6 works fine? |
| 07:53.32 | jquip | i'm running it on 3.0.36+ ... will change once i get the boot sequence.. will try for 3.6 |
| 07:54.36 | Mehhh | No idea, which is why i asked ;) |
| 07:54.41 | jquip | sorry.. just put that one in there... and had to leave it for a while |
| 07:54.56 | jquip | Mehhh goodness! |
| 07:55.15 | Mehhh | :P |
| 07:57.06 | jquip | actually I have learnt so very much here... its been fun tinkering around .. what with all the brilliant ppl around... i get to do this as a job!!! yay! |
| 07:58.47 | jquip | and I knew zilch before ... still haven't even touched kernel code... but will... hopefully.. * need much reading |
| 08:05.57 | jquip | erm!! sorry that wasnt meant for this channel :) |
| 08:07.06 | jquip | was a PM, |
| 08:08.26 | jquip | but was referring to arm-netbook :P |
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| 08:27.07 | jquip | oh yeah! sweet -> linux running off the nand! thanks mnemoc libv hno |
| 08:27.15 | jquip | that was fun... |
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| 08:31.42 | jquip | mtd driver |
| 08:33.32 | jquip | next step |
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| 09:08.25 | Mehhh | jquip, what kernel are you using? |
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| 09:33.11 | jquip | Mehh: the normal one? this one was old.. 3.0.36+ from amery's tree.. |
| 09:33.25 | jquip | sorry was away |
| 09:37.05 | jquip | dont' ask why so old... it was just there... and I flashed it and left it.. |
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| 10:21.07 | Mehhh | amery's tree jquip? Link? :D |
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| 10:22.20 | mnemoc | jquip: use linux-sunxi's tree, not mine |
| 10:23.38 | mnemoc | that branch is probably in your local cache because I deleted the not-wip branches from my repo long ago |
| 10:23.50 | Mehhh | oh true |
| 10:27.18 | mnemoc | if you want to boot recent kernels from nand you either need to replace nanda's u-boot with one built from the lichee-dev branch <https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi/commits/lichee-dev> (pre-built at http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/testing-3.4/u-boot.bin) or enable allwinner boot hacks when configuring the kernel (CONFIG_SUNXI_IGNORE_ATAG_MEM) |
| 10:32.08 | mnemoc | obviusly replacing the broken stock bootloader is recommended |
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| 10:52.15 | Mehhh | Is there a prebuilt 3.5 or 3.6? |
| 10:52.22 | Mehhh | and do they support the MK802 |
| 10:52.29 | Mehhh | mnemoc is the man/woman |
| 11:02.15 | jquip | TIL: mnemoc is amery :D |
| 11:06.07 | jquip | ohkie doh mnemoc ... |
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| 11:06.45 | Mehhh | o |
| 11:07.21 | Mehhh | I guess what i need to do is get 3.6/7, build boot hacks, mk802 compat, deb sys, mali, and.... is the framebuffer working yet? |
| 11:09.44 | Mehhh | I guess no-one else likes to get nerdy at 6AM |
| 11:09.56 | hno | Mehhh, 3.7 tree have barely no drivers at all yet. |
| 11:10.27 | libv | hrm, now my quake runs at half the speed it did a month ago :( |
| 11:10.36 | Mehhh | Ah |
| 11:10.38 | rz2k | hey libv |
| 11:10.42 | rz2k | read my pm? |
| 11:10.47 | libv | rz2k: ah, you're back |
| 11:10.53 | libv | rz2k: try make ARCH=arm |
| 11:11.39 | Mehhh | Are the drivers from the working video compatible with 3.6? |
| 11:11.49 | Mehhh | the X / 2d/3d accell demo |
| 11:11.57 | libv | Mehhh: why not use what everyone else uses? |
| 11:11.58 | rz2k | Mehhh: highest somewhat working stuff is 3.4.x |
| 11:12.42 | Mehhh | I wanted to have kernel compat with my desktop distro |
| 11:13.03 | libv | Mehhh: "compat with" means what exactly? |
| 11:13.05 | Mehhh | also, speed / compat with LTS / Wheezy |
| 11:13.09 | Mehhh | compatible |
| 11:13.27 | libv | so you want to load x86 modules in an arm kernel? |
| 11:13.32 | Mehhh | No |
| 11:13.51 | Mehhh | I'm trying to make my arm env similar to my desktop |
| 11:13.51 | libv | what do you want then? |
| 11:13.58 | Mehhh | in as many ways as possible |
| 11:14.06 | libv | oh, and the version of the kernel will make all the difference there? |
| 11:14.18 | Mehhh | No, but 3.0 does make a difference |
| 11:14.22 | libv | why? |
| 11:14.28 | rz2k | may be Mehhh uses btrfs :p |
| 11:14.28 | Mehhh | considering some of the packages i need are 3.2+ |
| 11:14.32 | Mehhh | ROFL |
| 11:14.40 | libv | Mehhh: which packages? |
| 11:14.54 | mnemoc | uses btrfs on 3.0 ;-) |
| 11:15.09 | Mehhh | obscure python libs and programs that use post-patched EXt4 fixes |
| 11:15.39 | libv | ? |
| 11:16.22 | libv | what do you depend on ext4 for? and what does post-patched mean? |
| 11:17.03 | Mehhh | I think one part was fixed at |
| 11:17.07 | Mehhh | 3.0.49 or something |
| 11:17.11 | Mehhh | but the other was 3.2 |
| 11:18.12 | mnemoc | you are welcome to fix the usb issues in sunxi-3.4 |
| 11:18.22 | libv | i am quite certain that you have little solid idea as to why you absolutely need the latest kernel version, apart from it being the highest number |
| 11:18.24 | Mehhh | What is the problem? |
| 11:18.39 | Mehhh | libv, it's for a prop openstack program that i can't talk about |
| 11:18.40 | Mehhh | under NDA |
| 11:18.42 | libv | because you are being very vague as to why you absolutely need this |
| 11:18.47 | Mehhh | yeh, no kidding |
| 11:19.08 | libv | good luck fixing/porting then |
| 11:19.10 | Mehhh | I was just asking a question |
| 11:19.24 | Mehhh | That's fine, what is the issue? |
| 11:19.41 | Mehhh | I haven't git the repo yet to see |
| 11:20.51 | hno | Mehhh, which of the issues? |
| 11:21.00 | Mehhh | with the USB in 3.4 |
| 11:21.50 | Mehhh | Holy crap, you're on the repo. Nice. |
| 11:22.45 | Mehhh | [06:18] <mnemoc> you are welcome to fix the usb issues in sunxi-3.4 |
| 11:23.21 | mnemoc | the usb gadget integration was done straight into android.c |
| 11:23.49 | mnemoc | so needs to be factored out to be able to forward port it |
| 11:24.09 | hno | mnemoc, is there issues with the USB host as well? |
| 11:24.10 | mnemoc | also OTG mode switching crashes |
| 11:24.15 | Mehhh | Crap |
| 11:25.18 | mnemoc | hno: people has reported problems in usb host even in 3.0... but haven't looked in deep... it seems script.bin related |
| 11:25.40 | mnemoc | from manufacturers "adjusting" the sources instead of the script.bin file |
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| 11:25.48 | libv | crap, i got 41.6 fps on q3a last time round |
| 11:25.49 | hno | I know of the request_irq issue. Any other? |
| 11:26.06 | mnemoc | don't remember at the moment |
| 11:26.28 | rz2k | allwinerized wifi module is dead in 3.4 |
| 11:26.44 | mnemoc | i thought i had fixed that one... |
| 11:26.52 | rz2k | really? |
| 11:26.54 | mnemoc | libv: what counts as good? |
| 11:27.01 | rz2k | I didnt check it long time |
| 11:27.07 | libv | i have 19.7 now |
| 11:27.07 | Mehhh | 60-80? |
| 11:27.31 | libv | so the last time counts as good |
| 11:28.09 | Mehhh | Is there a 3.2.x? What was the demo video done under? |
| 11:28.15 | oliv3r | my android tablet has wifi issues coming out of sleep. It is connected via USB , but uses an old kernel, i still have to build my own :) |
| 11:28.35 | mnemoc | Mehhh: no, 3.0, 3.4 and arm-soc's for-next (3.8) |
| 11:29.26 | Mehhh | is there a reason why .36 and not .4x on the 3.0.xx |
| 11:30.12 | mnemoc | Mehhh: you are probably using the wrong tree |
| 11:30.16 | rz2k | we are .52 |
| 11:30.22 | rz2k | use sunxi-3.0 |
| 11:30.38 | Mehhh | Crap, I believe i am |
| 11:30.57 | Mehhh | Sorry I was going after the version that the image i tested used and got that tree |
| 11:31.04 | Mehhh | i assumed it was the highest |
| 11:31.18 | libv | ah, kernel debug printing! |
| 11:31.22 | libv | hah |
| 11:31.38 | libv | my cube should gain a few fps on that too |
| 11:32.10 | rz2k | wait, you run ioquake on lima? :p |
| 11:32.54 | libv | rz2k: not yet |
| 11:32.58 | libv | rz2k: be patient :) |
| 11:33.13 | libv | i have to fully figure out mipmapping before i can realistically look into that |
| 11:34.04 | Mehhh | So wait, libv, is your demo running from Android or LoA? |
| 11:34.19 | Mehhh | or Linux |
| 11:34.48 | rz2k | ioquake runs on our framebuffer libs |
| 11:34.51 | rz2k | for mali400 |
| 11:35.02 | rz2k | that came from Tom, who got them from Allwinner |
| 11:35.23 | rz2k | libv: I've build successfully with arch=arm |
| 11:35.53 | libv | rz2k: now buy full q3a to run the timedemo |
| 11:36.52 | libv | this is what i did :) |
| 11:37.14 | libv | it's a bit bad if you are proclaiming freeness of driver code, when you illegally acquired the game data :) |
| 11:38.06 | rz2k | I have q3a CD somewhere, so I'm in the clean. |
| 11:38.19 | libv | cool :) |
| 11:38.50 | libv | rz2k: you will need to stick the key in the file directly though |
| 11:38.56 | libv | rz2k: as no input has been wired up |
| 11:39.09 | libv | again, if anyone feels like hooking evdev into this code directly, please do |
| 11:42.55 | libv | hah, looks alot better already |
| 11:43.22 | libv | 39.4 :) |
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| 11:43.49 | mnemoc | by removing printk() abuse? |
| 11:43.51 | libv | rz2k: at 720p: 1260 frames 32.0 seconds 39.4 fps 10.0/25.4/80.0/8.2 ms |
| 11:44.32 | libv | mnemoc: yeah, i needed that printk stuff to find out why my code just wouldn't work, the reason was the shifted ioctls |
| 11:44.58 | libv | 2-3 printfs per ioctl, of which there are at least 2 per frame |
| 11:45.02 | libv | ah, 4 |
| 11:45.16 | Mehhh | Does this SoC get the operating Mhz @ V from script.bin or the kernel itself? |
| 11:46.31 | libv | f me. 320fps for the cube companion |
| 11:47.27 | libv | looks horrible |
| 11:47.57 | libv | i have 2 buffers |
| 11:48.25 | libv | and i start rendering to one, then tell fbdev to use this one, then render the next one, then tell fbdev to use the next one |
| 11:48.37 | libv | no waiting for anything, no dropping of frames |
| 11:49.01 | libv | at 330 fps, i render to a buffer 5.5 times per actual frame displayed |
| 11:49.23 | libv | so i pass 2.25 times over each frame while it is being displayed |
| 11:50.05 | rz2k | hm 1080p 10fps or so |
| 11:50.33 | rz2k | I should turn on the fb_scaler_layer probably :p |
| 11:50.45 | libv | it's a good thing that i am not suffering from epilepsy |
| 11:51.16 | Mehhh | or dyslexia |
| 11:51.29 | libv | 2.75 even |
| 11:53.13 | Mehhh | github doesn't let you view RAW files in the code-viewer? |
| 11:53.16 | libv | rz2k: for full screen? |
| 11:53.22 | libv | rz2k: i doubt that it will help |
| 11:54.27 | rz2k | lots of tearing without it |
| 11:54.45 | rz2k | also it finished, I was overestimating, its 5fps :p |
| 11:55.57 | libv | it looks ok at 720p |
| 11:56.05 | libv | no tearing being noticed |
| 11:56.19 | Mehhh | So the new framebuffer libs display CLI? |
| 11:56.52 | libv | Mehhh: the acronym command line interface makes no sense with respect to mali fb libs |
| 11:57.28 | libv | mali fb libs means: mali opengles user space graphics drivers with an egl based on framebuffer |
| 11:57.43 | Mehhh | That's exactly how the "issue" was commented |
| 11:58.10 | libv | what issue? |
| 11:58.11 | Mehhh | when (if not still) for prompt |
| 11:58.23 | Mehhh | for deb |
| 12:00.43 | Mehhh | That was the claim in relation to why only a headless deb was released |
| 12:00.58 | Mehhh | or rather, DE or HL only |
| 12:06.19 | hno | Mehhh, you are talking about fbconsole? |
| 12:06.49 | rz2k | libv: tried to launch ioquake without X in background? I have segfault after FBIOPAN_DISPLAY ioctl being rejected by /dev/fb0 with operation not permitted |
| 12:06.52 | Mehhh | yes |
| 12:06.55 | Mehhh | bingo |
| 12:07.04 | hno | Mehhh, completely unrelated to mali. |
| 12:07.14 | Mehhh | Rats, I assumed he was talking about the same thing |
| 12:07.31 | libv | rz2k: works on the framebuffer libs |
| 12:07.58 | hno | Mehhh, mali is the GPU doing OpenGLES, leaching off an existing framebuffer for displaying the result. |
| 12:08.32 | hno | if you want. |
| 12:08.33 | rz2k | libv: this ioctl goes right after fbioget_f/vscreeninfo |
| 12:08.53 | rz2k | interesting :/ |
| 12:09.00 | rz2k | you have a linaro setup? |
| 12:10.20 | libv | yeah, alip |
| 12:10.43 | Mehhh | Are you using Ub, or did you compile the toolchain for deb? |
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| 12:25.05 | Mehhh | Are the mali libs / etc from the demo page in the git i'm cloning atm? |
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| 12:45.40 | rz2k | libv: http://linux-sunxi.org/Ioquake3 |
| 12:52.11 | libv | ok |
| 12:52.19 | libv | so you really get no good values? |
| 12:52.26 | libv | at 1080p? |
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| 13:34.00 | libv | hrm, the issue with the higher framerates is not with the framebuffer itself |
| 13:35.14 | libv | this is geometry trouble. |
| 13:36.56 | rz2k | yep, 4fps |
| 13:37.08 | rz2k | I have around 11 fps in glmempfbench |
| 13:37.30 | rz2k | I believe we have something with video memory throughput |
| 13:38.15 | libv | that sounds quite wrong, but on the other hand, 2.25x the data that the fragment shader has to handle |
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| 13:47.34 | jquip | mnemoc: Is u-boot lichee-dev chainloaded by default? |
| 13:48.42 | jquip | I've been having some trouble with my booting sequences and it's a pain... So if I enable mmc_detect of sorts in the lichee-dev u-boot, i can pretty much override that? |
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| 14:00.54 | techn_ | rz2k: I tested bufferswap stuff last night.. it works but needs something to be drawn on gles.. |
| 14:01.31 | rz2k | techn_: I came to conclusion that dri2swapbuffers import in libmali.so is wrong |
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| 14:03.18 | rz2k | our demo programms dont import it, only mali.so wants it for some reason, and it is provided for x11 by dri2proto/libxcb-dri2 |
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| 14:15.32 | hno | jquip, lichee-dev do not have an SPL and needs to be chainloaded from some other primary bootloader. |
| 14:15.46 | hno | s/primary/initial/ |
| 14:16.40 | jquip | boot0 -> boot1 -> u-boot is already happening once it is inside right? |
| 14:16.44 | jquip | hno |
| 14:16.51 | hno | jquip, what problems do you have with the boot sequence? |
| 14:17.02 | hno | yes. |
| 14:17.52 | hno | or SPL -> u-boot if booting from SD. |
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| 14:19.35 | jquip | hno gimme a bit , will paste some logs in 15 min or so... |
| 14:19.43 | jquip | welcome back mnemoc :) |
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| 14:43.22 | jquip | hno: am trying mmc u-boot for now... sun4i-spl.bin does not get generated in u-boot/spl/ folder? |
| 14:46.47 | jquip | hno : if you remember, gnexus had made one u-boot-multi-allwinner ... you heard of that? |
| 14:48.58 | hno | there is no universal SPL. It needs board specific parameters. |
| 14:49.13 | hno | what board do you have? |
| 14:49.45 | jquip | h6-netbook? |
| 14:50.05 | jquip | pcb says hp1026A |
| 14:50.56 | jquip | and another tablet.. |
| 14:51.00 | jquip | a10_mid |
| 14:52.54 | Mehhh | are there premade kernel configs for compiling features / default sd vs nand boot? |
| 14:53.04 | Mehhh | errr models |
| 14:54.50 | jquip | nope Mehh |
| 14:55.22 | Mehhh | kk |
| 14:55.23 | jquip | if you search around ... some people might have some device specific blog posts or so.. |
| 14:55.47 | Mehhh | Yeh, I just didn't want to use a Mele setup for an MK802 ;) |
| 14:56.04 | Mehhh | If they aren't compatible (haven't checked, just finished cloning the entire repo) |
| 14:58.10 | jquip | mk802 ? miniand might have something.. |
| 15:02.00 | Mehhh | Yeh, checking. Most of it is old and was for files that now exist that didn't, or linaro stuff. |
| 15:02.28 | Mehhh | I found an old deb image i want to see if i can build from and replace kernel |
| 15:02.50 | Mehhh | rofl.... 4GB image is actually 4.1GB |
| 15:04.17 | Mehhh | Does the git repo allow people to add files / folders? |
| 15:05.04 | Mehhh | I want to add a tutorial when i'm done since apparently lots of people are asking for a non-headless deb tut / premade. Didn't see a tutorials folder. |
| 15:05.04 | slapin | hi, all! |
| 15:05.10 | Mehhh | :> |
| 15:05.34 | slapin | is there any USB SCSI (differential) controllers? |
| 15:05.52 | slapin | or UAS->SCSI converters? |
| 15:06.12 | slapin | wants to attach this one to stick for backups |
| 15:06.28 | slapin | or stick to it, for that matter |
| 15:06.43 | slapin | got cool IBM SCSI tape drive |
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| 15:14.29 | hno | jquip, a13_mid is in u-boot already. Not sure about h6 netbook. |
| 15:15.36 | hno | Mehhh, kernel is compatible across pretty much all A10 devices. Just need specific script.bin and u-boot SPL. |
| 15:16.22 | Mehhh | the voltage, mhz, and ddr speed is controlled within the kernel not script.bin though, right? |
| 15:16.31 | hno | Mehhh, we generally dump turotirals etc in the wiki at linux-sunxi.org. |
| 15:16.36 | Mehhh | ah |
| 15:16.37 | Mehhh | gotcha |
| 15:17.07 | hno | Mehhh, ddr speed and boot voltage & mhz is set by the initial bootloader (u-boot SPL or boot0/boot1) |
| 15:17.47 | hno | kernel cpufreq driver then takes over cpu voltage and mhz when started, but that's pretty late in the kernel startup. |
| 15:18.32 | Mehhh | so the kernel has the final say |
| 15:18.55 | Mehhh | and don't touch uboot so it has time to scale / not overheat on boot? |
| 15:19.36 | Mehhh | Sorry, I was reading into the voltages, going to put one kernel compile @ 1.2ghz / 1.4V. |
| 15:22.38 | hno | kernel can not touch DDR settings. |
| 15:23.07 | hno | and the bootloader generally configures the cpu @1.08GHz and suitable voltage for that |
| 15:24.53 | Mehhh | Yes. I saw that ummm http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?6,8529 here yes. |
| 15:27.03 | Mehhh | So if it is right, at 1008mhz it uses 1.4, but at 1056-1200 it uses 1.5 |
| 15:27.08 | mnemoc | Mehhh: having the output of https://github.com/maxnet/a10-meminfo of your devices and script.fex files with the info adjusted by the values output by a10-meminfo I can get you the hwpacks for them |
| 15:27.25 | Mehhh | That would be sick |
| 15:27.45 | mnemoc | .oO(sick?)o |
| 15:28.32 | Mehhh | nice |
| 15:28.47 | mnemoc | .oO(sick is nice???)o |
| 15:28.53 | Mehhh | Only in America |
| 15:29.00 | mnemoc | ok... |
| 15:29.17 | rz2k | lol |
| 15:29.31 | Mehhh | Ok so, is this over uart, ssh, jtag, etc |
| 15:29.51 | mnemoc | a10-meminfo? android+adb+su |
| 15:30.07 | Mehhh | awesome |
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| 15:42.53 | slapin | hno: so, no voltage scaling on A1X is performed by kernel then? |
| 15:47.58 | Mehhh | On the Mk802 it's crappy, not sure about on the Mele / etc, slapin |
| 15:48.34 | RaYmAn | iirc original mk802 had voltages hard-wired rather than use an actual PMU |
| 15:48.41 | RaYmAn | so not a lot of voltage scaling there ;) |
| 15:52.34 | Mehhh | exactly, it's set |
| 15:52.42 | Mehhh | oh wait |
| 15:52.47 | Mehhh | the cheap cheap original |
| 15:53.03 | Mehhh | I'm on the 1GB, pseudo gen1? |
| 15:53.40 | RaYmAn | I have a 1gb one too, that's gen1 |
| 15:54.50 | Mehhh | Well, you can switch gen 1 voltages. Not sure if on the fly, but in general. |
| 15:55.33 | Mehhh | Not sure if there is a limited amount, etc but for certain 1.4<->1.5 |
| 16:28.41 | Turl | allwinner moving to powervr? :| |
| 16:30.33 | Mehhh | Not sure, only saw the A31 specs on that not the A40 |
| 16:31.15 | mnemoc | there is no public official name for allwinner's quad cortex-a7 |
| 16:31.43 | mnemoc | some call it A15X, some A40, some A31.... but this A31 smells more reliable |
| 16:35.23 | L84Supper | A-BS until it's released, and probably more after |
| 16:44.20 | hno | slapin, cpu core voltage scaling is done bu the kernel. but it does not touch ddr settings. |
| 16:44.39 | jquip | hno: got mem-info in the script.bin for the 1GB a10_mid tablet http://sprunge.us/WNNV?ini |
| 16:45.02 | jquip | mnemoc: Over here it's marketed as Wishtel Ira Thing 2... But there are others in the market which seem to be similar... So I don't know what to call it.. |
| 16:46.08 | jquip | some pics shall follow soon...maybe tmrw... |
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| 16:48.49 | jquip | hno: custom SPL for each board differs in what way? |
| 16:50.12 | Mehhh | Did the branch just update? |
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| 16:55.46 | jquip | this h6 netbook does not support usb adb ... |
| 16:57.57 | mnemoc | install a terminal app or enable adb over tcp |
| 16:58.10 | jquip | had to use terminal app to run a10-meminfo, works fine :) |
| 16:58.24 | jquip | hah.. you typed before me! |
| 16:59.46 | Mehhh | :P |
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| 17:05.16 | Turl | facepalms @ newspaper |
| 17:05.52 | Max_nl | this h6 netbook does not support usb adb ... <- If you have a spare SD card, just download the berryboot installer .apk from http://get.berryboot.com/ |
| 17:06.05 | Max_nl | will put the information as meminfo.txt on the card |
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| 17:07.23 | Max_nl | along with a patched u-boot spl |
| 17:10.22 | jquip | hno mnemoc: http://sprunge.us/gPVD?ini for the h6-netbook meminfo verified |
| 17:11.06 | jquip | thanks Max_nl... |
| 17:15.01 | jquip | saw that earlier... but I wanna see what goes in getting there.. |
| 17:18.22 | libv | i fixed the rotating companion cube now. |
| 17:18.39 | libv | 9ms delay between gp job returning and submitting the pp |
| 17:19.04 | libv | now it looks golden, but of course, this is not very efficient |
| 17:20.42 | Turl | [dvfs_table] <- o.o |
| 17:20.46 | Turl | libv: :) |
| 17:24.15 | ZaEarl | jquip, try adb over wifi. I think this one worked for me: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ttxapps.wifiadb&hl=en |
| 17:24.44 | jquip | adb over wifi?? that's new... |
| 17:25.11 | mnemoc | it's just an app to enable adb over tcp |
| 17:25.31 | ZaEarl | without the app, it's not so easy |
| 17:28.39 | jquip | mnemoc: both the tablet and netbook are marketed (re)branded as Ira by Wishtel ... shall we name them thus? |
| 17:30.44 | jquip | what else? pics... yes... tmrw.. and have just opened the tablet... Clean PCB design IMO.. and now they have this rubber sticker over the CPU... |
| 17:30.57 | mnemoc | wiki wiki :) |
| 17:31.03 | jquip | ahahah :D |
| 17:31.05 | jquip | yes yes |
| 17:31.08 | jquip | new page? |
| 17:31.24 | mnemoc | unless there is one already.... |
| 17:31.31 | jquip | otay... |
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| 17:32.17 | Mehhh | Wait, i can ADB to the device over USB and mount the internal partition from a microsd on device? |
| 17:32.24 | Mehhh | non-nande |
| 17:35.55 | jquip | yes you can Mehhh |
| 17:36.42 | jquip | fat works |
| 17:36.56 | jquip | ext4 dont think so... |
| 17:37.06 | Mehhh | ext4 doesn't? crap |
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| 17:39.59 | mnemoc | jquip: can you give http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/sunxi-3.0/20121206-1739/ a try? |
| 17:41.39 | jquip | heys yessir... you mean a10_mid_1gb_hwpack.tar.xz righto? will try.. |
| 17:42.02 | mnemoc | and h6 |
| 17:43.36 | jquip | hah.. missed that one.. yes. |
| 17:43.55 | libv | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k16ve88d-L0 |
| 17:44.33 | jquip | libv: ahem, * gets out a bag of popcorn... |
| 17:45.00 | mnemoc | libv: cute heart :p |
| 17:48.15 | libv | now uploading q3a |
| 17:49.18 | jquip | wow!! q3a * pops a can of beer |
| 17:50.04 | libv | it's just the timedemo running on the arm binaries |
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| 17:52.24 | jquip | ah don't be so modest! its the RE effort that counts ... *throws a beer can to libv |
| 17:52.54 | libv | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4LbQGdwslA |
| 17:54.34 | Maqs | nice |
| 17:54.49 | Maqs | looks playable ;) |
| 17:55.24 | libv | if it had input hooked up, possibly |
| 17:56.44 | Maqs | input shouldn't be too complicated i guess :-) |
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| 18:31.57 | slapin | hno: so, ddr3 power saving methods are not implemented, am I right? |
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| 19:22.59 | libv | hah, the big imagination announcement was to do with their meta processor, and nothing to do with powervr |
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| 19:26.56 | Jef91 | hey libv I saw a video of 3D working on the mail 400 under Linux |
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| 19:31.50 | L84Supper | http://www.dailyfinance.com/2012/12/06/archos-gamepad-available/ |
| 19:32.58 | L84Supper | ^^^ does this use that new Rockchip? |
| 19:34.11 | Jef91 | that is a good find L84Supper |
| 19:34.14 | Jef91 | slick looking device |
| 19:35.11 | L84Supper | 1.5 GHz Rockchip RK3066 dual core processor with ARM Mali 400 according to http://liliputing.com/2012/10/archos-gamepad-tablet-crosses-the-fcc-threshold-on-way-to-us-launch.html |
| 19:36.43 | L84Supper | Archos was all about TI devices. I wonder what happened? |
| 19:36.57 | mnemoc | they got an A10-based now too |
| 19:37.30 | L84Supper | A10 in Archos or their low cost line of products under that other name? |
| 19:38.36 | mnemoc | charbax made some views about those, 1m |
| 19:38.48 | libv | L84Supper: i hope they will make a proper linux available for that soon |
| 19:39.02 | libv | archos tends to abide to the gpl, but usually with some delay |
| 19:39.21 | L84Supper | Arnova |
| 19:39.31 | L84Supper | http://armdevices.net/2012/12/04/299299e-arnova-familypad-launched/ |
| 19:40.30 | L84Supper | there are a few people in this channel i used to see in the archos device channels |
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| 19:47.43 | Welcome | Hi |
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| 20:07.17 | rz2k | omg |
| 20:07.26 | rz2k | Welcome to the "Steamlinuxbeta" mailing list |
| 20:07.33 | rz2k | finally |
| 20:21.05 | Jef91 | haha |
| 20:21.09 | Jef91 | I just got one too rz2k |
| 20:21.15 | Jef91 | they just have sent out a large wave this time |
| 20:21.23 | Jef91 | hopefully they just open it to the public soon |
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| 20:24.19 | RaYmAn | hm, I haven't gotten an email, but my steam linux client stopped complaining all the time |
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| 20:28.45 | Maqs | run 'steam steam://store' and it doesn't matter whether you have a beta tester account or not. it just works :P |
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