| 00:00.38 | Turl | mnemoc: ever seen this? [ 0.000000] Memory: 760MB = 760MB total |
| 00:00.52 | Turl | I disabled mali, cedar and all the things |
| 00:02.10 | mnemoc | show the rest |
| 00:02.25 | mnemoc | mali is clearly disabled, there is no gap for it there |
| 00:02.36 | mnemoc | but still too much stuff reserved |
| 00:03.21 | Turl | [ 0.000000] Truncating RAM at 40000000-7fffffff to -6f7fffff (vmalloc region overlap). |
| 00:03.22 | Turl | :< |
| 00:04.03 | mnemoc | eh? |
| 00:04.20 | mnemoc | what bootloader? |
| 00:05.34 | Turl | hno's |
| 00:05.51 | mnemoc | mmc or nand? |
| 00:06.13 | mnemoc | what board? |
| 00:09.34 | mnemoc | also, which hno branch |
| 00:10.29 | Turl | mnemoc: mmc, cubie, whatever you built for the hwpacks |
| 00:10.58 | Turl | mnemoc: apparently it's the 3G/1G split so the max mem I can have is 1G-vmalloc |
| 00:17.47 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 00:24.26 | slapin_ | mnemoc: I don't have resources to boot android on this board now |
| 00:25.18 | mnemoc | slapin_: no problem. but you can mount nanda from linux too |
| 00:25.50 | slapin_ | mnemoc: busily hacking u-boot at the moment |
| 00:26.20 | mnemoc | no rush |
| 00:27.05 | slapin_ | mnemoc: mtest proves very good for memory settings |
| 00:27.06 | mnemoc | it's only to keep consistency between the boards supported by u-boot-sunxi and sunxi-boards/sunxi-bsp |
| 00:28.13 | slapin_ | what is sunxi-boards/sunxi-bsp? |
| 00:29.31 | mnemoc | the first a repository of .fex files per board, the second a tool to generate hardware packs per board. |
| 00:30.09 | mnemoc | there are quite a few repos at https://github.com/linux-sunxi |
| 00:31.58 | Turl | mnemoc: VMSPLIT_2G and a recompile after I can use all 1GB of it as lowmem :) |
| 00:32.01 | mnemoc | and those .fex will become .dts some day in future |
| 00:32.24 | mnemoc | Turl: i don't understand why you had that problem |
| 00:32.40 | Turl | mnemoc: I have HIGHMEM disabled |
| 00:33.04 | mnemoc | ok |
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| 00:47.57 | slapin_ | what is this stuff: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1346624/ ? it doesn't match settings I see in nand_sunxi dir... |
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| 01:01.54 | Turl | mnemoc: do cubies have a preset mac addr? |
| 01:06.33 | libv | hrm, got the base ioquake3 commit and am now reducing the changes in the rpi code |
| 01:08.22 | libv | in a few days we hopefully have a gles1 capable port of ioquake3 running on our allwinner with mali libs :) |
| 01:08.29 | Turl | can rpi run quake? :o |
| 01:09.04 | orly_owl | Is anyone using an A10 tablet or just hacking/developing on it? |
| 01:09.16 | libv | its videocore mess is emulating gles1/gles2 |
| 01:10.12 | Turl | libv: have you seen http://git.linaro.org/gitweb?p=people/fboudra/ioquake3-gles.git;a=summary ? |
| 01:11.08 | Turl | orly_owl: o/ |
| 01:12.16 | slapin_ | libv: /me votes for q2 as well... |
| 01:12.43 | libv | Turl: oh no, another idiot who pulled the same shit :( |
| 01:12.48 | libv | Turl: but thanks |
| 01:13.10 | libv | maybe this is a quicker route indeed |
| 01:13.54 | orly_owl | Turl: gday mate |
| 01:14.29 | orly_owl | A7HD vs Novo7 Aurora? |
| 01:15.01 | Turl | libv: maybe this https://github.com/Cpasjuste/ioquake3/commit/c97d354166cbf983f4a98714237f79bb696265b1 |
| 01:15.13 | Turl | other than the idiocy that he commited temp *~ files >.< |
| 01:15.15 | Turl | looks saner |
| 01:17.43 | orly_owl | A10-MID is 7 or 10"? |
| 01:17.57 | orly_owl | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:18.05 | orly_owl | http://linux-sunxi.org/A10-MID has no info |
| 01:18.15 | orly_owl | ah 7" |
| 01:19.54 | libv | Turl: i have the rpi code at 5.5kloc+ 123loc- |
| 01:20.27 | libv | once some further broadcom idiocy has been removed, the changes look kind of good |
| 01:20.43 | libv | oh, and i need to remove etc support :) |
| 01:21.10 | libv | that just gets in the way of lima work :) |
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| 01:22.13 | libv | ah, more like 2800loc+, as one is a copy of a makefile |
| 01:23.20 | libv | so i got the diff down to something workable, and the gles port seems more trustworthy than the code i am seeing in the thatsnotright (which is what this guys nick translates to) repository |
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| 01:27.24 | Turl | libv: https://github.com/turl/ioquake3/commit/5ff94ad5b1497cd601a9c3d9135c3c362121a65f is +3.3K-32 after nuking all the *~ crap |
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| 01:46.33 | jlj | why does ioq3 need changes to run? cause the a10 doesn't have full opengl support? |
| 01:47.48 | Turl | jlj: mali supports GLES, not GL |
| 01:48.08 | Turl | jlj: https://www.khronos.org/opengles/ |
| 01:48.36 | jlj | yeah, kinda figured. thanks |
| 02:07.29 | slapin_ | ahahaha, first part of NAND init sequence seems to work. >9000 to go. |
| 02:07.39 | slapin_ | gnight, all! |
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| 09:46.14 | mnemoc | http://dpaste.com/828619/plain/ <--- what is the purpose of this asm chunk? I don't now asm but it looks like if (*(NULL) != 0) return *(NULL); which is kind of wtfing from a C perspective |
| 09:47.00 | mnemoc | but I've seen it very often |
| 09:48.55 | Triffid_Hunter | mnemoc: the end result of a chain of macros? |
| 09:50.41 | mnemoc | .oO |
| 09:52.09 | mnemoc | but if the var behind r3 is hardcoded to 0, a C compiler wouldn't accept to dereference it |
| 09:52.35 | mnemoc | and that is supposed to come from C code |
| 09:53.02 | mnemoc | scratches his arm-analphabet head |
| 09:53.06 | mnemoc | asm* |
| 09:54.24 | Triffid_Hunter | mnemoc: looks like a lookup for an unresolved symbol.. is that in an object or a final linked elf? (or something else?) |
| 09:54.57 | mnemoc | a gpl-violating built-in.o |
| 09:55.08 | mnemoc | mach-sun5i/built-in.o |
| 09:56.00 | mnemoc | from the function to distinguish between A13, A12 and A10s |
| 09:56.44 | mnemoc | (note A10s != A10) |
| 09:57.23 | mnemoc | if it wasn't hardcoded to 0 I would tell it's a cache |
| 09:57.46 | mnemoc | memoizing |
| 09:57.57 | mnemoc | but it wouldn't be unresolved |
| 09:58.27 | jinzo | maybe it relies on some quirk in the hardware for detection? |
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| 10:06.30 | Turl | mnemoc: that code seems to r3=0; r0=*r3; if(r0<op>0) jump somewhere |
| 10:13.49 | RaYmAn | when is that code running? before or after mmu setup? |
| 10:14.08 | mnemoc | after |
| 10:14.23 | mnemoc | it's used by /proc/cpuinfo and some drivers |
| 10:15.18 | RaYmAn | weird |
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| 10:17.08 | RaYmAn | you almost won't if it relies on specific behavior from npr.. |
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| 10:37.35 | rz2k | hm |
| 10:38.44 | rz2k | lkcl: you didnt know that kernel\drivers discussion for linux-sunxi moved to our own ML because arm-netbook became A10 place only (which it must not be)? |
| 10:40.42 | mnemoc | i guess he missed a sort of "official" announcement |
| 10:42.05 | mnemoc | that list has never been "announced" anywhere.... |
| 10:43.01 | rz2k | it was announced for people who watch linux-sunxi at github in one of the issues opened. :3 |
| 10:43.12 | mnemoc | :) |
| 10:43.42 | mnemoc | yes, it's more of a "those who care know it" |
| 10:44.53 | mnemoc | but there are different levels of "caring" |
| 10:45.07 | mnemoc | i doubt luke is following the issue trackers |
| 10:47.37 | mnemoc | he is busy on a completely different layer |
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| 11:31.09 | rellla | to help improving playing videos on a10, i decided to create kind of a matrix, listing container|codec|profile|bitrate....|audiocodec....|demo-file|working yes/no|issues. test could be done with xbmc or vlc (if working already). would linux-sunxi-wiki be the right place to start, or would that be too xbmc-specific? |
| 11:32.01 | mnemoc | I would say the sunxi wiki |
| 11:33.20 | mnemoc | it's far more relevant to people reading the sunxi wiki than to people reading xbmc specific places |
| 11:34.17 | rellla | main goal would be to collect infos. atm there is no concept in testing. xbmc-forum-users only say works, works not, i have artefacts. this infos could grow more relevant if they are listed together with demo files and codec infos. |
| 11:35.03 | mnemoc | +1 |
| 11:35.26 | mnemoc | we can host the demo files in dl.linux-sunxi.org too |
| 11:35.28 | rellla | so it's easier for developers to improve, i think. issue page on github is to confusingly imho. |
| 11:36.20 | rellla | there are a few on samplemedia.linaro.org already. but not too much different codecs. |
| 11:36.51 | mnemoc | want a samplemedia.linux-sunxi.org ? give me your ssh public key |
| 11:38.06 | mnemoc | http://thenextweb.com/google/2012/11/09/chinese-government-blocks-google-com-gmail-google-maps-docs-analytics-drive-more/ |
| 11:38.56 | rellla | let me first do the wiki entry and check if it's needed. thanks anyway. |
| 11:39.15 | mnemoc | ok |
| 11:39.38 | rellla | very strange, these chinese :-( |
| 11:41.01 | rellla | i checked out http://mediainfo.sourceforge.net for video analysis. any suggestions? |
| 11:42.05 | Gumboot | 10 01:08 <Turl> can rpi run quake? :o |
| 11:42.16 | Gumboot | I think that was one of the original test cases in getting the driver up. |
| 11:48.13 | rellla | mnemoc: samplemedia.linux-sunxi.org would be cool. mediainfo can produce .html analysis overviews. those could be linked to the matrix/samplefiles. i'll call you later... |
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| 12:25.19 | rm | <Gumboot> 10 01:08 <Turl> can rpi run quake? :o |
| 12:25.33 | rm | RPi may run Quake, but A10 will (hopefully) run OpenArena! :) |
| 12:25.46 | orly_owl | rm: link to your site/blog? |
| 12:25.52 | orly_owl | i want the mk802 page |
| 12:26.08 | rm | orly_owl, http://romanrm.ru/en/a10 |
| 12:26.28 | orly_owl | ty |
| 12:27.00 | rm | OpenArena is a fully free (GPLed) derivative/clone of Quake 3 |
| 12:32.59 | hno | mnemoc, Can you make a hires picture of the cubieboard backside please? Mine is a bit hidden now. |
| 12:42.57 | mnemoc | hno: light is pretty bad at the moment but I'll try |
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| 13:03.32 | mnemoc | hno: how about http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/pictures/cubieboard-2012-08-08/DSCF4274.JPG ? |
| 13:04.24 | libv | hrm, ioquake3.arm has linked ok now.... |
| 13:12.14 | libv | still needs to be hacked for mali_native_window, but otherwise things seem to be ok |
| 13:13.08 | libv | broadcom specific code seems to be quite limited |
| 13:16.30 | mnemoc | libv: will merge your patchset for mali-libs now unless you want me to wait for something |
| 13:16.58 | libv | nope, nothing there yet, Turl can still add his own additions when he gets round to testing it |
| 13:17.21 | libv | i was hoping for some more feedback though, as this really makes things easier for a lot of people |
| 13:17.33 | libv | and it definitely will not do the right thing for quite a few people |
| 13:19.49 | mnemoc | what about using two .s for testing if it's armhf or arm at all |
| 13:20.21 | mnemoc | without fancy flags |
| 13:20.29 | libv | .s means gcc |
| 13:20.32 | mnemoc | ok |
| 13:20.44 | libv | gcc -dumpmachine is pretty reliable when gcc is there |
| 13:21.16 | libv | Turl his route sounds ok too, but will also need lots of system dependant tuning |
| 13:21.29 | libv | a combination of the two will be used in the end |
| 13:21.46 | libv | first gcc -dumpmachine (with even more triplets added) |
| 13:22.05 | libv | when that fails, looking at ldconfig naming |
| 13:22.35 | libv | gcc, when there, is very reliable, so we patch up the other case only when gcc is not there |
| 13:22.58 | libv | the version code is also likely to fail for various reasons |
| 13:23.15 | libv | the mali module might not be loaded, /dev/mali might not be accessible |
| 13:23.31 | libv | a c compiler might not be installed, libc-dev might not be installed, etc |
| 13:24.28 | libv | but it still is a very sane route to take, save DKMS mali modules |
| 13:30.09 | mnemoc | hno: sightly better front http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/pictures/cubieboard-2012-08-08/DSCF4279.JPG and back http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/amery/pictures/cubieboard-2012-08-08/DSCF4280.JPG |
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| 13:34.17 | specing | RoHS compliant... |
| 13:34.21 | specing | Oh my. |
| 13:35.32 | mnemoc | libv: eventually we will have packages and the problem will be solved |
| 13:35.56 | mnemoc | specing: you expected it wasn't? |
| 13:36.05 | libv | mnemoc: true |
| 13:37.43 | libv | hrm, i will need to find a way to first make ioquake3 happy, and then to reduce the dataset, the zipped data of the original q3a (which i own since half a year or so, for lima) is currently like 500MB |
| 13:38.17 | mnemoc | uh |
| 13:38.34 | libv | the timedemo requires original q3a though |
| 13:38.50 | libv | as the map is not available in the q3a demo data |
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| 13:51.51 | rm | why not OpenArena, which I mentioned just earlier... |
| 13:52.05 | libv | rm: because most of the work has already been done. |
| 13:52.21 | libv | rm: and because i can clearly spot the code where ioquake3 was altered |
| 13:52.29 | libv | rm: you might be missing the point here |
| 13:52.44 | libv | rm: i am not doing this to play quake |
| 13:52.59 | libv | rm: i couldn't care less about gaming |
| 13:53.14 | libv | rm: i am, however, intending to do lima driver development |
| 13:53.40 | rm | I am just sick of how Raspberry Pi gives so much spotlight to a proprietary game |
| 13:53.45 | libv | if _you_ prefer openarena, then by all means, _you_ can port openarena |
| 13:53.51 | libv | proprietary? |
| 13:53.56 | rm | when there's a perfect Free Software version of it (better in many ways) |
| 13:53.57 | libv | it's GPLed. |
| 13:54.07 | rm | I am afraid that the situation repeats with A10 |
| 13:54.20 | libv | wtf are you rambling on about? |
| 13:54.21 | rm | "Cubieboard now runs Quake3, yaaaay!" |
| 13:54.29 | rm | libv, data files are proprietary |
| 13:54.39 | rm | engine might be GPLed |
| 13:54.41 | libv | rm: and? |
| 13:54.52 | rm | but you can't play the game without having proprietary data files |
| 13:55.04 | libv | rm: you do know that i have done quite a lot of insane open source work right? |
| 13:55.07 | rm | so the whole product is in effect proprietary, because without the data files you have no game |
| 13:55.16 | rm | .....so? |
| 13:55.18 | libv | rm: from REing bioses to REing whole graphics driver stacks |
| 13:55.30 | rm | you need to stop pushing yourself at every opportunity |
| 13:55.33 | libv | rm: and i am perfectly happy with some of q3a data being proprietary |
| 13:55.57 | rm | I don't care who you are and the point we are discussing has nothing to do with you, your personality or your past work |
| 13:56.10 | libv | again, _you_ are missing the point |
| 13:56.16 | libv | i am doing this to do lima work |
| 13:56.22 | libv | not to run q3a on this hw |
| 13:56.25 | rm | I already had that "you know who I am right" from you before |
| 13:56.34 | rm | and back then it was also not relevant to the discussion |
| 13:56.39 | rm | that's what I mean, nothing more |
| 13:56.47 | libv | running q3a in a hackable tree is an intermediate goal for me |
| 13:57.14 | libv | and i do not care whether that fulfills your goal of free data |
| 13:57.24 | rm | so you are just as misguided as the Raspberry Pi people, this is sad |
| 13:57.27 | rm | carry on |
| 13:57.28 | libv | music is copyrighted, as it should be. |
| 13:57.32 | rm | afk |
| 13:57.46 | libv | hah. |
| 13:58.06 | libv | rm: go crusade as much as you want, but do not stop people from doing real work. |
| 14:07.51 | libv | cool, without mali_native_window code, at least hello triangle finally vanished :) |
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| 14:47.21 | libv | woohoo. |
| 14:54.03 | libv | :( no input |
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| 15:36.01 | libv | yay, now q3a is set up enough to run, but there are... issues :) |
| 15:37.44 | libv | ah, textures are broken, we'll soon fix that :) |
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| 15:42.09 | arete | hi, ubuntu 12.04 is good for build android? |
| 16:04.28 | hno | mnemoc, thanks, perfect. |
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| 16:40.15 | cheng | last time i saw ubuntu12.04 is armel, but nowadays seems like change to armhf |
| 16:41.39 | sv | yesyes |
| 16:41.40 | jelly-home | don't they have both? |
| 16:41.41 | sv | yes* |
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| 16:49.05 | cromo | Hi, two problems I have here with Mele A1000. I wanted to try the new xbmc for armhf, so I did compile the newest one along the sunxi-3.0 kernel. The work, except for the xbmc rendering slowly using software ("A10: using software rendering" in xbmc logs) and my script.bin not setting the 1080 resolution anymore. Any ideas? I could see the software rendering was already discussed here with empat0, however no solution was mentioned |
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| 17:01.34 | cromo | OK, I got the first issue solved (rendering) - did not have the A10HWR environment variable set properly |
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| 18:06.12 | vgrade | mele a1000 hangs at DRAM: with mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.11.10.7z any ideas guys? |
| 18:06.45 | vgrade | my a1000 is quite an old one does that metter? |
| 18:06.48 | vgrade | matter? |
| 18:07.55 | hno | vgrade, first version of mele should work fine. |
| 18:08.23 | hno | what does it say on the console? |
| 18:09.14 | vgrade | U-Boot SPL 2012.10.g832a8e5-dirty (Nov 10 2012 - 04:00:35) |
| 18:09.20 | vgrade | DRAM: |
| 18:12.00 | hno | odd. that should work.' |
| 18:12.26 | vgrade | will try an earlier hw pack |
| 18:23.12 | vgrade | ok different result |
| 18:24.14 | vgrade | U-Boot SPL 2011.09-00000-g8d13bc8-dirty (Jul 20 2012 - 14:00:25) |
| 18:24.39 | vgrade | MMC: SUNXI SD/MMC: 0 |
| 18:24.55 | vgrade | Loading U-Boot... OK! |
| 18:25.06 | vgrade | Jumping to U-Boot... |
| 18:25.10 | vgrade | hang |
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| 19:14.39 | vgrade | ls |
| 19:18.17 | libv | vgrade: i had massive issues with my mele, but that was due to too weak a power supply |
| 19:18.34 | libv | vgrade: building uboot worked well for me |
| 19:22.35 | vgrade | libv: I did some work with it when Tom posted the initial ubuntu image and there was always something I could not put my finger on with it. |
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| 19:23.55 | vgrade | I'll have a look at power but I have a 5A voltage selectable unit |
| 19:29.34 | libv | vgrade: it needs to deliver 2A |
| 19:29.44 | libv | err, right :) |
| 19:29.58 | libv | i of course read that as 5V :) |
| 19:30.36 | libv | vgrade: clearing the first sectors is crucial, and dding in the right bits at the right place |
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| 19:32.58 | libv | vgrade: you know mo (maurice), right? from basyskom? |
| 19:33.04 | empat0 | help! got a new a10 android box (stv-301), u-boot+sunxi-3.0 from today, box boots, i can ssh into it, but no hdmi signal! any ideas? |
| 19:33.44 | vgrade | libv: I worked with him on Plasma yes, I met you at fosdem last year also :) |
| 19:33.52 | libv | empat0: modprobe disp; modprobe lcd; modprobe hdmi |
| 19:33.58 | vgrade | I was with mdfe |
| 19:34.04 | libv | vgrade: i remember meeting you, but i am not sure who introduced us |
| 19:34.10 | libv | ah, he did indeed |
| 19:34.17 | libv | last fosdem was a bit of a blur :) |
| 19:34.23 | empat0 | libv: all loaded - no signal# |
| 19:34.38 | vgrade | yea it was maurice, I hear he's moved on from basyskom. Do you still see him in the pub ? |
| 19:35.02 | libv | empat0: can't help you any further then, i think i am the closest to disp stuff today, and i still have barely a clue of what is going on :) |
| 19:35.22 | libv | vgrade: yeah, well, it's been a few weeks (i had flu, and now he is off to cuba) |
| 19:35.34 | libv | but yeah, he went to openexchange |
| 19:35.58 | vgrade | good guy |
| 19:36.06 | libv | openexchange was bumped from suse as it was in competition with novell products |
| 19:36.15 | libv | and now it is doing quite well |
| 19:36.28 | libv | and vacuming up quite a lot of good people here in the nue area :) |
| 19:36.37 | rellla | empat0: no/wrong output settings in script.bin? |
| 19:37.03 | libv | apparently has a good atmosphere, and i am sure that mo will be happy there |
| 19:37.11 | empat0 | rella: i used the one from android nanda. looks reasonable. |
| 19:37.16 | vgrade | libv: good to hear |
| 19:37.37 | vgrade | hope to see him at a conf soon |
| 19:38.01 | libv | sadly he is lost to linux on embedded devices now, but he will be happy |
| 19:38.18 | libv | i'll whine at him when he gets back from cuba :) |
| 19:38.51 | libv | i am sure that he can be badgered into coming to fosdem again :) |
| 19:40.10 | vgrade | We had a good night out there last year :) |
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| 19:43.52 | libv | mo moved to nue about two years ago, and somehow he fit right in with the usual (ex)suse drinking suspects :) |
| 19:44.25 | libv | so high probability of 3 fun nights in brussels in february :) |
| 19:46.13 | hno | is mnemoc around? |
| 19:47.09 | vgrade | lets try doing the sdcard creation wihout the script |
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| 20:19.55 | empat0 | hno: i am playing with a new a10 device (stv-301). i got u-boot+kernel running, but i do not have any uart access. can i somehow provide you the exact data for u-boot? is dram.c the only board specific file or are there more? |
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| 20:22.54 | Mehhh | Holy god yes |
| 20:23.42 | Mehhh | Is anyone here doing MK802 / lapdock |
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| 20:27.36 | libv | empat0: have you opened it up already? |
| 20:28.41 | libv | empat0: hno was able to provide the missing information for a7hd, once the make & model and count of dram chips was known |
| 20:28.58 | libv | empat0: since this is a stb, chances are that you can solder serial to it |
| 20:30.43 | empat0 | libv: yes, i opened it. nothing that looks like uart. |
| 20:31.03 | Mehhh | Hey guys |
| 20:31.05 | Mehhh | http://i.imgur.com/NlthE.jpg |
| 20:31.14 | Mehhh | doing internal |
| 20:34.09 | empat0 | libv: i used the dram.c from mini-x, it seems to run fine - besides hdmi |
| 20:43.20 | hno | empat0, boards.cfg and dram_boardname.c is the only board specific details currently See sunxi-current branch in my u-boot repository. |
| 20:43.37 | hno | Layout is a bit different in the "stable" sunxi branch. |
| 20:45.21 | hno | empat0, provide your dram configuration, what chips you have on the board, and your script.bin. And preferably also boot1 header as instructed in sunxi u-boot wiki. |
| 20:48.32 | empat0 | hno: boot1 is a little difficult - i do not have uart, sd-breakout or a livesuit image. is there any chance to get it from nand within android? |
| 20:49.12 | empat0 | hno: or linux-sunxi? i guessed the mini-x configuration and it seems to work ... |
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| 20:50.32 | hno | empat0, have no other way at the moment. But hope to get ready to extract it from NAND shortly, in which case there will be a FEL tool to extract the NAND boot block. |
| 20:51.38 | hno | empat0, please check what dram_para you have in script.bin. It's not 100% reliable, but often good enough. |
| 20:53.59 | Mehhh | When you short pin4/5, why doesn't the screen come on? |
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| 20:57.08 | empat0 | hno: thats what i used. problem is it boots, i can ssh into it, but i do not get hdmi output - i used the script.bin from android. |
| 20:58.10 | hno | There is nothing in u-boot related to HDMI. |
| 20:58.43 | jlj | so I tried ./configure gooseberry_A721 with sunxi-bsp and it said No rule to make target `gooseberry_A721' |
| 20:59.02 | jlj | am I doing something wrong? seems to work for the other boards |
| 21:00.16 | empat0 | hno: so, from u-boot point of view, i'm ready? |
| 21:00.34 | hno | jlj, Is that listed as a supported board? there is no gooseberry_A721 in sunxi u-boot. |
| 21:00.38 | hno | empat0, yes. |
| 21:00.46 | hno | only not verified. |
| 21:01.26 | empat0 | hno: shall i mail script.bin and dram.c? |
| 21:01.56 | hno | empat0, yes, and a note of what DRAM chips you have on the board. |
| 21:02.08 | j^ | i'm able to boot my mk802ii with the sunxi-3.4 kernel but get only 448MB of my 1G ram, with the same u-boot setup i can boot an older kernel with 1G, any poitners what needs to be changed? |
| 21:02.40 | hno | j^, you need a newer u-boot. |
| 21:02.43 | jlj | hno: when I do a /sunxi-bsp$ ./configure it is listen in the supported boards |
| 21:03.19 | jlj | Usage: ./configure <board> supported boards: |
| 21:03.27 | jlj | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:03.32 | hno | j^, but so far no one have provided required MK802ii data for u-boot. |
| 21:03.53 | j^ | hno: so what would be needed? |
| 21:04.02 | hno | j^, do you have UART? |
| 21:04.06 | j^ | no |
| 21:04.24 | hno | j^, are you booting from NAND or SD? |
| 21:04.28 | j^ | SD |
| 21:04.53 | hno | Which u-boot version are you using? |
| 21:05.24 | empat0 | hno: will try to find a magnifying glass for the rams. thanks and good night. |
| 21:05.45 | hno | empat0, camera at slightly tilted angle usually works best. |
| 21:06.00 | j^ | hno: https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi mele_a1000 |
| 21:08.03 | j^ | trying to create a mk802ii config based on script.bin from http://blog.dryft.net/2012/08/v4-linaro-armhf-image-for-mk802.html |
| 21:08.08 | j^ | but that did not boot |
| 21:08.22 | hno | j^, better use your own script.bin. |
| 21:09.37 | j^ | hno: from nand? will have a look |
| 21:12.34 | slapin_ | hno: ping |
| 21:13.21 | hno | slapin_, half pong |
| 21:13.38 | hno | j^, yes from nanda. |
| 21:18.30 | focus_it | can cubieboard boot from its SATA? |
| 21:20.54 | focus_it | Also can Mele A2000 boot from sata? |
| 21:23.32 | j^ | hno: from script.bin on nanda i get http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349019/ but does not boot with it |
| 21:24.39 | hno | focus_it, kind of. You need to boot Linux kernel from SD/NAND. You can then kexec another Linux krenel from SATA if you prefer, or only have root on sata. |
| 21:27.47 | focus_it | hno: sounds reasonable - if booting from SD, will that Linux need to write to SD before kexec? i.e. end up wearing the SD card? |
| 21:31.53 | hno | focus_it, not at all. |
| 21:32.37 | focus_it | hno: that is a good answer - thanks! |
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| 21:32.59 | hno | j^, you need to fill in the NULL parameters. Which you can do if you know what RAM chips you have. |
| 21:34.36 | hno | j^, how many RAM chips is there? 2 or 4? |
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| 21:38.24 | Gumboot | rm: I thought the quake business model was a free engine and commercial maps but with freedom for others to create their own maps if they wanted. |
| 21:38.51 | Gumboot | Has nobody created free maps, or is that not the model for q3a? |
| 21:39.20 | rm | that's what people did, created a complete dataset (not just maps are the issue! also textures, models, sounds), paired it with the freed engine and the result is OpenArena |
| 21:41.55 | hno | j^, if 2 DRAM chips then try copying those NULL parameters from cubieboard. |
| 21:43.59 | j^ | hno: hno http://r-w-x.org/mk802ii.jpg |
| 21:45.10 | hno | j^, 4 chips then. |
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| 21:46.19 | Mehhh | Hello |
| 21:46.33 | Mehhh | Any lapdock people here, or mk802 owners |
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| 21:49.06 | slapin_ | hno: please apply my pull request re mk802 |
| 21:49.14 | hno | j^, density = 2048, io_width=8, bus_width=32, size=1024, rank = 1. |
| 21:49.20 | hno | slapin_, I have a pull request? |
| 21:49.43 | slapin_ | hno: github pull request |
| 21:51.11 | hno | I see it now. It won't work for the MK802ii discussed tonight. |
| 21:52.11 | slapin_ | it is not mk802ii |
| 21:52.25 | slapin_ | it is mk802 with 512MB RAM |
| 21:52.52 | slapin_ | I don't have any clue about mk802ii |
| 21:53.27 | slapin_ | it is separate hardware |
| 21:53.36 | hno | slapin_, merged. |
| 21:53.53 | slapin_ | some of mk802s are based on rockchip, not A10. |
| 21:53.57 | slapin_ | hno: thanks |
| 21:54.08 | hno | This one is A10. |
| 21:54.38 | hno | slapin_: See <j^> hno: hno http://r-w-x.org/mk802ii.jpg |
| 21:54.39 | Mehhh | Why isn't the A10 mk802 going into OTG when i short pin4/5? |
| 21:55.08 | hno | Mehhh, what do your script.bin say? |
| 21:55.18 | Mehhh | I';m running stock |
| 21:55.18 | hno | it is possible the port is configured as device only. |
| 21:55.30 | Mehhh | Huh? |
| 21:55.37 | hno | have no idea what stock means. |
| 21:55.41 | Mehhh | stick firmware |
| 21:55.44 | Mehhh | stock* |
| 21:55.47 | Mehhh | from the actory |
| 21:55.49 | Mehhh | factory* |
| 21:55.56 | hno | I got that, but have no idea what the factory put in your firmware. |
| 21:56.11 | j^ | hno: ok http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349089/ boots it up with 448+512=960, now need some way to test if it actually works |
| 21:56.34 | Mehhh | ok, so do you have a firmware you know that works with OTG for keyboard AND power? |
| 21:56.41 | Mehhh | I'm trying to connect to lapdock off one cable |
| 21:56.45 | Mehhh | errr |
| 21:56.47 | Mehhh | one USB |
| 21:58.22 | hno | j^, when tested please submit is as a patch or github pull request, based on sunxi-current branch. |
| 21:58.23 | slapin_ | hno: I also would like to discuss the clock part on http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1346624 it is quite different from setup on http://ossfans.org/nand_registers.ps |
| 21:58.29 | Mehhh | See: http://i.imgur.com/NlthE.jpg |
| 21:59.49 | hno | Mehhh, with the right script.bin you can set the port as a HOST port if you like. |
| 22:00.14 | Mehhh | Is there a list of them somewhere or do I have to manually edit? |
| 22:00.26 | hno | OTG is also supported, but there is some reports on OTG mode not being entirely stable when unplugging devices. |
| 22:00.28 | Mehhh | Also, will the script.bin work for android on nand AND linux on microsd? |
| 22:00.35 | slapin_ | ah mk802ii is so cool, it have axp209 part. how hot it is? |
| 22:00.49 | slapin_ | any links where to buy it? |
| 22:01.01 | hno | slapin_, seen it on aliexpress many times. |
| 22:01.17 | slapin_ | how hard it is to solder battery pins to axp209 |
| 22:01.51 | hno | I do not dare to solder on axp209. Far too small pins for me. |
| 22:01.53 | slapin_ | hno: I do too, but there are too many variants, most without axp209, and many without A10 |
| 22:02.22 | slapin_ | hno: if they had pads a bit longer... |
| 22:02.31 | slapin_ | ah |
| 22:02.38 | slapin_ | this one seems solderable |
| 22:04.16 | slapin_ | I dunno why they don;t make 4 1mm pads for battery attachment, I'd be very thankful..., even if price increased for $10... |
| 22:04.29 | j^ | hno: sunxi-current is in your uboot-allwinner? why not https://github.com/linux-sunxi/u-boot-sunxi |
| 22:05.15 | slapin_ | j^: do you still have link where you got mk802ii with nice and shiny axp209? |
| 22:06.03 | j^ | slapin_: http://r-w-x.org/mk802ii.jpg |
| 22:06.30 | slapin_ | j^: I mean where you bought it |
| 22:08.08 | slapin_ | my board have CPU NAND and RAM chips on the same side, among with wifi module |
| 22:08.12 | j^ | ah, slapin_ http://www.w2comp.com/detail.asp?catid=74585&Pdtid=630954 |
| 22:11.50 | Mehhh | does anyone have a script.bin that supports host |
| 22:11.58 | Mehhh | or know where to get one |
| 22:14.17 | hno | j^, sunxi-current is only in my repository, and is where current work is being done. The other is the "stable" branch. They differ a bit in the DRAM part. |
| 22:15.48 | hno | j^, you are welcome to submit to both. Saves me a bit of work. |
| 22:16.00 | hno | the same goes for slapin_ |
| 22:17.13 | j^ | hno: how do i build in your branch? make 'boardtype' CROSS_COMPILE=... does not work |
| 22:17.22 | hno | j^, tjat e2comp link says it's Rikomagic now. |
| 22:17.49 | hno | j^, that works. Have you added the board to boards.cfg and the dram file in board/sunxi/ |
| 22:18.06 | hno | plus matching board/sunxi/Makefile change. |
| 22:19.30 | slapin_ | hno: about clocks... |
| 22:19.40 | slapin_ | 16:58 < slapin_> hno: I also would like to discuss the clock part on http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1346624 it is quite different from setup on http://ossfans.org/nand_registers.ps |
| 22:20.15 | hno | The part left in my u-boot tree is not verified. |
| 22:20.17 | j^ | hno: mk802 is from Rikomagic no? |
| 22:20.24 | hno | Right. |
| 22:21.08 | hno | a bit tired, both Rockchip and Rikomagic starts with R.. |
| 22:23.52 | hno | slapin_, but I don't see any clock setup in your .ps. Only the gating. |
| 22:35.02 | hno | slapin_? |
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| 22:36.45 | j^ | hno: pull for your branch https://github.com/hno/uboot-allwinner/pull/2 |
| 22:37.07 | slapin_ | hno: see init sequence |
| 22:37.21 | slapin_ | hno: I try to understand why so different |
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| 22:37.52 | slapin_ | in init sequence NAND clock seems to be sourced from 24 * PLL5 |
| 22:39.32 | slapin_ | hno: |
| 22:40.19 | slapin_ | hno: see 1.2 |
| 22:40.56 | slapin_ | AHB_GATING_REG0 |= (1<<13) <--- this enables clock gating |
| 22:41.39 | hno | Of the AHB clock yes. Also needs the NAND clock. |
| 22:41.46 | slapin_ | but next clock value is calculated from PLL5 values and stored to NAND_SCLK_CFG_REG |
| 22:41.55 | slapin_ | which is NAND clock |
| 22:42.15 | hno | In the PS you only have XX = PLL5_CFG_REG, NAND_SCLK_CFG_REG = YY |
| 22:42.32 | slapin_ | hno: refresh it please |
| 22:42.51 | hno | I have only seen NAD_SCLK_CFG_REG set to use OSC24M as reference. |
| 22:43.54 | slapin_ | hno: you might be right, but I need full understanding |
| 22:44.05 | slapin_ | hno: could you please see updated .ps |
| 22:44.07 | hno | it can use OSC24/PLL6/PLL5 as upstream clock source. |
| 22:45.11 | slapin_ | in original u-boot and your nand branch I see what I have in .ps |
| 22:45.59 | slapin_ | so I want to understand what happens there. |
| 22:48.10 | hno | http://fpaste.org/ifkY/ is what I have in lichee-dev. |
| 22:48.53 | hno | slapin_, which of my nand branches? |
| 22:50.13 | hno | Same in nandtrace branch. |
| 22:50.32 | hno | Where did you find anything else? |
| 22:52.48 | slapin_ | hno: I'll check |
| 22:54.28 | slapin_ | nand_sunxi/nand_drv/nand_osal_uboot.c, function NAND_GetCmuClk() |
| 22:54.31 | slapin_ | hno: |
| 22:55.12 | slapin_ | hno: branch - explorenand |
| 22:56.31 | slapin_ | hno: it seems nand_sunxi dir assumes clocking from pll5 |
| 22:57.16 | slapin_ | or there is some global synchronisation problem |
| 22:58.09 | slapin_ | even with this settings the controller allows to reset itself and do various setings |
| 22:59.19 | slapin_ | hno: as I see, your code provides gating, so I don't need to do my own, isn't it? |
| 23:02.28 | hno | slapin_, it is possible nand_sunxi also sets up the clock. Have not looked in detail there. |
| 23:03.00 | hno | It does not mattre very much. The clock just needs to be <200MHz or so. |
| 23:03.33 | hno | AHB and NAND clocks are separate. Both needs to be enabled. |
| 23:04.04 | hno | The AHB clock is system wide, the NAND clock only used by the NAND controller internally. |
| 23:04.05 | slapin_ | hno: it doesn't set it up, it assumes pll5 is configured. |
| 23:04.16 | hno | where? |
| 23:04.58 | slapin_ | hno: do I need to do AHB_GATING_REG0 |= (1<<13)? or it is done already? |
| 23:05.13 | slapin_ | hno: look at init sequence |
| 23:05.45 | slapin_ | hno: it just configures GPIO, enables clock gating and configures NAND clock. |
| 23:06.14 | slapin_ | it soesn't configure PLL5 and AHB clock. |
| 23:07.16 | slapin_ | if NAND clock is enabled, would reset sequence work for the controller? |
| 23:07.47 | hno | Are we talking about NAND_SetClock call in the driver? |
| 23:09.20 | slapin_ | hno: yes |
| 23:11.21 | slapin_ | hno: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1349289/ this seems to work, so I just want to be sure is clocking allright... |
| 23:12.35 | vgrade | hno: looks like mu serial converter is the issue, not getting any serial now but latest hwpack boot to hdmi console |
| 23:13.13 | Turl | vgrade: is it connected correctly? |
| 23:13.20 | hno | As I said the clocking is not that critical. Too low and performance suffer. Too high and things fail. |
| 23:13.47 | vgrade | tried all the usual swap 2/3, with without gnd |
| 23:13.59 | vgrade | 115200 baud right |
| 23:14.04 | Turl | yes |
| 23:14.13 | Turl | make sure they're connected correctly on the board |
| 23:14.27 | Turl | and don't plug vcc |
| 23:15.16 | slapin_ | hno: so in my case it seems everything is done and all necessary clock work is made, so I just need to proceed with NAND initialization, right? |
| 23:15.19 | vgrade | yea looked at the triangle as pin 1 vcc, pin 2 / 3 tx/rx, pin4 gnd |
| 23:15.26 | hno | slapin_, but yes seem the driver uses PLL5. No idea how that can work unless something enabled PLL5 first. |
| 23:16.20 | Turl | vgrade: try unplugging board and uart from your computer |
| 23:16.23 | Turl | turn board on |
| 23:16.28 | slapin_ | hno: could you please investigate into pll5 issue, since you know the code better than me? |
| 23:16.31 | Turl | then plug and launch screen /dev/ttyUSB0 115200 |
| 23:16.35 | Turl | or whatever you use |
| 23:17.19 | hno | slapin_, I have never tried that code when booted from SPL. It's quite likely left configured by the Allwinner bootloader when chainloading u-boot. |
| 23:17.20 | vgrade | Turl: ok |
| 23:18.30 | hno | slapin_, md.l 0x1c20020 1 |
| 23:21.06 | slapin_ | hno: I tried, it works and displays proper NAND configuration. |
| 23:21.19 | hno | Odd.. I get b1059491, not the expected default 0x11049280 |
| 23:21.31 | slapin_ | sun4i#md.l 0x1c20020 1 |
| 23:21.31 | slapin_ | 01c20020: b1058f91 .... |
| 23:21.55 | hno | how did you boot? |
| 23:22.01 | slapin_ | probably bootrom configures it? |
| 23:22.08 | slapin_ | hno: from SD card |
| 23:22.19 | slapin_ | hno: via SPL |
| 23:22.20 | hno | Odd. Why do ours differ. |
| 23:23.04 | slapin_ | my board's uptime is 2 days already |
| 23:24.12 | hno | Ah, wait. Ofcourse it's configured. PLL5 is the DRAM clock. |
| 23:24.37 | slapin_ | hno: then it is very good source to clock NAND from |
| 23:25.50 | slapin_ | hno: I just have trouble understanding why bits are different in nand_sunxi and your code to configure NAND clock, regardless of clock source |
| 23:27.27 | hno | Well, the bits in board.c is not used. overwritten by NAND_SetClock |
| 23:28.12 | hno | It's there in all versions. Only have not deleted it in sunxi branch. |
| 23:28.28 | hno | just #if 0 commented it out as the NAND driver is not there. |
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| 23:32.34 | hno | slapin_, a guress is that it's good if the nand clock is enabled when the ahb gate is opened. |
| 23:33.58 | slapin_ | hno: did you mean clock.c? |
| 23:34.18 | slapin_ | hno: I quite don't understand why gate is enabled before clock is enabled |
| 23:34.54 | slapin_ | hno: I might try a bit different approach |
| 23:39.54 | slapin_ | hno: how does sr32 macro work? I loke it more than shifting values directly... |
| 23:40.04 | slapin_ | s/loke/like/ |
| 23:45.10 | libv | vgrade: is this a run of the rs232 to usb? |
| 23:45.22 | libv | vgrade: or is this a specific ttl to usb adapter? |
| 23:45.44 | libv | run of the mill |
| 23:45.47 | libv | even |
| 23:47.25 | vgrade | libv: its the ttl to usb adaptor which tom sent with the early mele |
| 23:48.13 | libv | :( |
| 23:48.25 | libv | hrm, weren't you seeing something on it previously? |
| 23:48.27 | vgrade | I can progress without serial for now but its awlays better to have |
| 23:49.06 | vgrade | yes but very intermittent, a few chars then looked like it had hung. |
| 23:49.33 | vgrade | One time I went for a drink and I had console on hdmi |
| 23:50.17 | vgrade | so thing was booting but something wrong with ttl to usb. probably blown it up swapping tx/rx |
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