| 00:00.53 | techn_ | libv takes first couple peaces of that cake :) |
| 00:10.51 | Gumboot | I want cake. |
| 00:11.43 | Turl | the cake is a lie |
| 00:12.11 | libv | gets out his father ted DVDs for relaxing later, before sleeping |
| 00:12.19 | Gumboot | Does that mean it has fewer calories? |
| 00:12.29 | libv | has it got cocaine in it? |
| 00:12.57 | Gumboot | I'm sure I read somewhere that cocaine is mostly ineffective if you eat it. |
| 00:13.25 | libv | it's like dried grapes :) |
| 00:19.55 | libv | youtube, "ms.doyle cocaine cake", for those who do not know father ted |
| 00:22.01 | Sv | is there anything special i need to do to make sound work on A10 with debian armhf? i'm not sure if there's a module i need to modprobe for alsa/pulseaudio to work or what |
| 00:22.04 | Gumboot | "blocked in your country on copyright grounds" |
| 00:22.42 | Turl | Sv: you should load the audio modules, yeah |
| 00:22.57 | Turl | or make them builtin when building the kernel |
| 00:23.13 | Sv | what's the name of the module |
| 00:23.52 | Sv | oh i got tem nvm |
| 00:23.53 | Sv | them |
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| 00:40.58 | drachensun | so I needed the next-mali kernel but now xbmc is working perfect |
| 00:43.04 | Sv | did you compile it yourself |
| 00:43.11 | drachensun | yup, on the device |
| 00:43.16 | drachensun | took awhile |
| 00:43.46 | Sv | what does next_mali have above the current mali/mali_drm |
| 00:44.55 | drachensun | I'm not sure exactly but I was getting "EGL failed to initialize" with the sunxi-3.0 |
| 00:45.34 | drachensun | the stage/sunxi-3.0 might work too, I thought I was trying it but my copy script had a bug so I'm not sure if it failed or I was still using the stable kernel |
| 00:47.47 | Turl | stage/ has next_mali inside |
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| 00:49.20 | rz2k | Sv: ARM released new drm drivers with stuff from 2004 era |
| 00:49.31 | rz2k | like drm_calloc(); |
| 00:49.52 | rz2k | so previous versions should work up to r3p1-rel0 |
| 00:50.57 | rz2k | drachensun: are you sure you either did chmod 777 /dev/ump && /dev/mali or created a rule for udev so it will do it automaticly? |
| 00:53.15 | drachensun | yeah, the stage kernel is probably fine, I'm pretty sure I wasn't really testing it when I thought I was. |
| 00:53.41 | drachensun | rz2k: yeah, I have a script doing that and its working |
| 00:53.57 | Sv | i'm going to try the stage kernel |
| 00:55.08 | drachensun | yeah, I'm going to have to also as thats the version has the touch screen fix I need too |
| 00:55.39 | Sv | is 3.0 better than 3.4 |
| 00:55.50 | Sv | i can't find much infos on 3.4 being used |
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| 00:55.58 | rz2k | wifi is dead in 3.4 |
| 00:56.15 | Turl | 3.0 is the 'stable' branch |
| 00:56.23 | Sv | ah, right |
| 00:56.41 | Turl | 3.4 is the way forward |
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| 00:56.59 | Turl | it's supposedly missing some stuff on USB though |
| 00:57.09 | Turl | I used USB devices on it and it worked, however |
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| 01:10.42 | Turl | lundman: ping |
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| 01:17.50 | libv | yay, extra h of hacking :) |
| 01:21.20 | drachensun | ok confirmed, the stage/sunxi3.0 kernel works too |
| 01:22.21 | Turl | libv: ? |
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| 01:25.32 | libv | daylightssaving time in CET |
| 01:26.45 | Turl | ah :P |
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| 01:34.21 | Sv | stage is compiling right now |
| 01:34.27 | Sv | it's pretty fast when crosscompiling on a quad-core cpu |
| 01:38.18 | lundman | turl |
| 01:48.30 | Sv | woo compiled |
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| 01:53.06 | Turl | lundman: PM? |
| 01:54.21 | lundman | Mayor |
| 01:54.28 | lundman | but sure:) |
| 01:54.29 | Turl | lol |
| 02:13.24 | Sv | and works perfectly too |
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| 02:49.45 | Gatsby | does sun4i support thumbee instructions? |
| 02:49.56 | Gatsby | or only thumb2 |
| 03:07.39 | hno | It's a Cortex-A8 so yes. |
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| 03:27.26 | Turl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeXMxuNNlE8&feature=player_embedded |
| 03:31.46 | orly_owl | any a10 device with gigabit network? |
| 03:34.23 | hno | orly_owl, hard to fit a gigabit interface on A10. |
| 03:34.46 | orly_owl | what's the hurdle? |
| 03:35.25 | hno | There is no I/O interface that can keep up with gbit. The fastest I/O bus on A10 is USB2.0. |
| 03:35.34 | orly_owl | ah right |
| 03:36.28 | orly_owl | so a gigabit to usb 2.0 adapter would be faster then a2000 ethernet |
| 03:36.37 | hno | For most applications the 100Mbps built in NIC is quite sufficient. It's not exacly a blazingly fast CPU. |
| 03:36.41 | orly_owl | limited by usb 2.0 bandwidth of course |
| 03:36.49 | orly_owl | also a good point |
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| 03:37.05 | orly_owl | id like an a10 nas, that's all |
| 03:37.13 | hno | Maybe faster. But USB has quite a lot of overhead. |
| 03:37.35 | orly_owl | hmm yes |
| 03:37.37 | lundman | needs more sata :) |
| 03:37.46 | lundman | 6x 6gbps sata ports would benice |
| 03:37.47 | orly_owl | and the a10 has to deal with that |
| 03:37.56 | orly_owl | 6 sata would be nice |
| 03:37.57 | lundman | "wake up lundman, you are having a nightmare" |
| 03:38.08 | hno | yes, that would be an idea. SATA connected Ethernet. |
| 03:39.19 | hno | don't know what the application would be. Usually when needing fast ethernet you also need fast storage. |
| 03:39.37 | orly_owl | it shall be a slow nas then |
| 03:39.44 | lundman | if it had two nics, it could be a router |
| 03:40.03 | orly_owl | add a usb nic |
| 03:42.09 | hno | or two. |
| 03:42.28 | hno | but a router only needs one if you have a switch. |
| 03:43.12 | orly_owl | mhm |
| 03:43.15 | hno | s/a s/a managed s/ |
| 03:43.48 | orly_owl | the new ibot from apple? |
| 03:48.35 | hno | ibot <3 |
| 03:48.35 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, <3 is love |
| 03:50.29 | orly_owl | ibot stole my baby |
| 03:50.37 | hno | bad ibot |
| 03:50.37 | orly_owl | hmmmm |
| 03:50.47 | orly_owl | it's not aussie enough |
| 03:50.49 | orly_owl | ibot: gday |
| 03:50.50 | ibot | G'day mate, how's the fishin' and the sheila? |
| 03:50.57 | hno | we love ibot |
| 03:51.01 | orly_owl | you beaut |
| 03:51.06 | orly_owl | ibot: weather |
| 03:51.51 | hno | ibot: gone fishing? |
| 03:52.16 | orly_owl | ibot fished in pm |
| 03:52.25 | orly_owl | <ibot> no help on weather. Use 'help' without arguments. |
| 03:54.04 | hno | wikipedia Allwinner A10 |
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| 03:55.22 | hno | ibot: wiki Allwinner A10 |
| 03:55.59 | hno | anyone: wiki Allwinner A10 |
| 04:01.04 | hno | What is Allwinner A10? |
| 04:02.32 | hno | hmm.. |
| 04:02.42 | hno | where can I find Allwinner A10 |
| 04:03.11 | hno | ibot: Allwinner A10 |
| 04:03.11 | ibot | hmm... allwinner a10 is a System on a Chip manufactured by Allwinner. See http://linux-sunxi.org/A10 |
| 04:03.45 | hno | ibot is not the most friendly bot today. |
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| 04:16.31 | Turl | ibot: wiki wiki |
| 04:16.45 | Turl | ouch |
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| 10:49.07 | hno | techn_, did not get anything for mini-x |
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| 10:56.08 | techn_ | hno: seems that mailing to dev@linux-sunxi.org misses mails :( |
| 10:57.25 | mnemoc | i'll install a real mailserver once hetzner gives me the new server. currently dev@ uses a forward provided by the free dns hosting (pointhq.com) |
| 10:59.13 | hno | forwarders fail if there is SPF on the sender domain. |
| 10:59.56 | hno | and gmail have SPF. |
| 11:01.06 | hno | techn_, mail diretly to linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com |
| 11:01.32 | lundman | i have spf! |
| 11:04.22 | hno | Quite many uese SPF today. For good and bad. |
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| 11:21.24 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: finally caved :P And a day too late :( The delivery date moved 7 days since yesterday :( |
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| 12:02.22 | libv | pfff. finally looking good. |
| 12:02.25 | libv | now for some testing |
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| 12:31.34 | hno | libv, disp? |
| 12:32.48 | techn_ | http://pastebin.com/uPuDCgCp |
| 12:32.59 | techn_ | googlegroups is shit |
| 12:36.11 | libv | yeah |
| 12:36.40 | libv | 188 files changed, 32610 insertions(+), 48920 deletions(-) |
| 12:36.51 | libv | lindent accounts for a bit of that though |
| 12:37.12 | libv | big pain, but life definitely will be easier afterwards |
| 12:37.44 | hno | techn_, mini-x added. |
| 12:37.50 | techn_ | hno: thanks |
| 13:00.21 | libv | the diff against the original libv_disp reveals nothing spectacular |
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| 14:14.25 | asdftrip | hello |
| 14:14.45 | asdftrip | i am completely new to linux kernel compiling and all that, can anyone assist me with the Allwinner A10 platform? |
| 14:16.00 | lundman | githib clone, make sun4i_defconfig |
| 14:17.08 | asdftrip | i finished that part already |
| 14:17.17 | asdftrip | my question is how to send the uImage and the modules to the device |
| 14:17.21 | asdftrip | (in this case, a tablet) |
| 14:17.40 | lundman | ah cant help, no tablet.. i thought they booted SD |
| 14:18.04 | asdftrip | i think they do, however I've compiled the kernel for android, so I thought i could avoid u-boot |
| 14:18.34 | lundman | ah, then you can dd to the /dev/nand device. either using android (and adb), or boot a linux, then do it |
| 14:19.43 | asdftrip | nand...which? is it the same partition that holds script.bin? |
| 14:20.28 | lundman | kernel is on nandc, in the ANDROID header format |
| 14:20.31 | lundman | ie, mkbootimg |
| 14:20.56 | asdftrip | oh.... so i'd need to pull script.bin first then mkbootimg, right? |
| 14:21.18 | lundman | if you want to change it? I only replaced kernel, so I just changed nandc |
| 14:21.30 | lundman | script.bin is on nanda, fat |
| 14:21.58 | asdftrip | oh... that is true, sorry, i confounded them for a bit there |
| 14:22.12 | asdftrip | i am very inexperienced with linux, so i tried mounting nandc to check out its contents but failed |
| 14:22.50 | lundman | nah, just dd it in as a raw file, it has the android header if you look at it in hexdump |
| 14:23.11 | lundman | then you can use split_mkbootimg into kernel and rootfs |
| 14:23.20 | lundman | replace kernel, and use mkbootimg to put kernel and rootfs back |
| 14:23.25 | lundman | then dd that image to nandc |
| 14:23.48 | asdftrip | much appreciated, thank you |
| 14:23.59 | asdftrip | i am unsure however how large is nandc, and what may happen if i cross the space limit |
| 14:24.12 | lundman | it will stop you |
| 14:24.27 | lundman | you can dd the whole partition in, it'll be more than you need |
| 14:24.37 | lundman | then when you mkbootimg, it'll be smaller/right-size |
| 14:24.57 | asdftrip | ok, thank you |
| 14:25.00 | lundman | some quick notes on my wiki, and most likely on the sunxi wiki] |
| 14:25.48 | asdftrip | i will check them out again - thx for your wiki btw |
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| 14:28.15 | asdftrip | it seems i am doing something wrong, so i will dare to check with you |
| 14:28.23 | asdftrip | where should i get split_mkbootimg from? |
| 14:29.12 | lundman | found it on some random place, perl script.. actually it was called |
| 14:29.49 | lundman | ./split_bootimg.pl nandc |
| 14:30.10 | lundman | looks like I have a copy too |
| 14:30.11 | lundman | http://www.lundman.net/ftp/mele/ |
| 14:30.42 | asdftrip | thanks again |
| 14:42.36 | asdftrip | is the mkbootimg on your ftp valid for A10? |
| 14:43.17 | lundman | mkbootimg I think I got from apt-get |
| 14:43.40 | asdftrip | hm |
| 14:43.43 | asdftrip | can't find it on ubuntu 12.04 |
| 14:44.10 | lundman | or it comes with android sdk |
| 14:45.24 | asdftrip | i found a package named abootimg that claims it can write /and/ extract boot.img |
| 14:45.31 | asdftrip | i think i will give that one a try |
| 14:46.01 | lundman | good luck |
| 14:46.08 | lundman | the header is not complicated |
| 14:46.29 | asdftrip | thanks, will report back - also, do you happen to know if the android ramdisk requires any special compression? |
| 14:46.41 | asdftrip | i might want to edit the one for my tablet but i am not sure about creating the new archive |
| 14:46.48 | lundman | nah, i took theirs, cpio |
| 14:47.47 | asdftrip | ok, will research that |
| 14:48.19 | asdftrip | er, is it normal if my new boot.img is very small? |
| 14:48.26 | asdftrip | it seems the ramdisk is only 533 kb in size |
| 14:52.46 | libv | hrm, mmc is always shaky with me it seems |
| 14:52.58 | libv | same toolchain and same u-boot though |
| 15:00.20 | asdftrip | seems i did something wrong, the tablet is stuck on the first boot logo |
| 15:00.28 | asdftrip | oh well, time to restore backups i guess |
| 15:05.53 | lundman | ramdisk is usually just busybox and init script to mount the real root |
| 15:07.33 | libv | hrm, this new reboot it is much more stable... strange |
| 15:12.17 | asdftrip | i am wondering why it was stuck at the first boot logo |
| 15:12.37 | asdftrip | ... there might be something wrong with the ramdisk after all, since the second android logo is in there i believe |
| 15:12.39 | asdftrip | the .rle file |
| 15:12.59 | lundman | did you set the boot address correctly? |
| 15:13.21 | asdftrip | if i recall correctly it was the same as the original (as reported after make) |
| 15:13.56 | lundman | android, you did make with sun4i_crane_defconfig? |
| 15:14.02 | asdftrip | yep |
| 15:14.08 | lundman | huh |
| 15:14.18 | asdftrip | the only issue i can imagine... |
| 15:14.25 | asdftrip | make returned an error inside kpanic.c |
| 15:14.43 | asdftrip | i am guessing related to android kernel panic handling |
| 15:14.45 | lundman | I had toenable ATAG to boot linux, or it would stop |
| 15:14.51 | asdftrip | i could not find the appropriate parameter in config to disable it |
| 15:14.58 | asdftrip | so i commented out the line in the source file |
| 15:15.02 | asdftrip | after that make completed succesfully |
| 15:15.10 | asdftrip | perhaps it still tries to initialize kpanic? |
| 15:15.14 | asdftrip | as for atag, i believe it was enabled |
| 15:15.18 | lundman | SUNXI_something_ATAG |
| 15:17.32 | asdftrip | funny, i can find nothing related to ATAG in the config |
| 15:17.43 | asdftrip | perhaps i should clone the git again and start over |
| 15:18.09 | asdftrip | unless it's CONFIG_SERIAL_8250_SUNXI=y |
| 15:18.36 | lundman | nor mine |
| 15:18.40 | lundman | hmm |
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| 15:19.29 | lundman | nevermind that one then :) |
| 15:19.33 | lundman | thought I did |
| 15:20.24 | asdftrip | i will probably leave this for another day and compare my boot.img and its contents to the boot.img in a CM9 port |
| 15:20.33 | asdftrip | and figure out what went wrong |
| 15:21.06 | asdftrip | what i know for sure is that ROMs flashed with custom recoveries do not modify the nanda partition, so they probably don't change the boot address either |
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| 15:30.01 | asdftrip | okay, i saw what happened |
| 15:30.23 | asdftrip | during the boot process, bImage is no longer loaded as per tutorials online |
| 15:30.27 | asdftrip | now the tablet actually loads u-boot |
| 15:30.39 | asdftrip | which means i should probably compile it as well before i can run my own kernel |
| 15:31.03 | lundman | android loads 2 uboots, then kernel, or something |
| 15:31.25 | asdftrip | root@android:/sdcard/nanda/linux # cat linux.ini |
| 15:31.26 | asdftrip | cat linux.ini |
| 15:31.26 | asdftrip | [segment] |
| 15:31.26 | asdftrip | img_name = c:\linux\u-boot.bin |
| 15:31.26 | asdftrip | img_size = 0x80000 |
| 15:31.26 | asdftrip | img_base = 0x4A000000 |
| 15:31.26 | asdftrip | [script_info] |
| 15:31.27 | asdftrip | script_base = 0x43000000 |
| 15:31.27 | asdftrip | script_size = 0x10000 |
| 15:31.28 | asdftrip | [logo_info] |
| 15:31.28 | asdftrip | logo_name = c:\linux\linux.bmp |
| 15:31.29 | asdftrip | logo_show = 1 |
| 15:32.07 | asdftrip | i had followed the boot process on rhombus-tech |
| 15:32.08 | asdftrip | which was |
| 15:32.09 | asdftrip | [segment] |
| 15:32.10 | asdftrip | img_name = c:\linux\bImage |
| 15:32.10 | asdftrip | img_size = 0x2000000 |
| 15:32.10 | asdftrip | img_base = 0x40008000 |
| 15:32.10 | asdftrip | [segment] |
| 15:32.10 | asdftrip | img_name = c:\linux\params |
| 15:32.10 | asdftrip | img_size = 0x100 |
| 15:32.11 | asdftrip | img_base = 0x40000100 |
| 15:32.11 | asdftrip | [script_info] |
| 15:32.12 | asdftrip | script_base = 0x43000000 |
| 15:32.12 | asdftrip | script_size = 0x10000 |
| 15:32.13 | asdftrip | [logo_info] |
| 15:32.15 | libv | asdftrip: stop this. |
| 15:32.23 | libv | use pastebin |
| 15:32.29 | asdftrip | 'scuse me, i'm done |
| 15:33.14 | libv | hrm, the prebuilt image is very happy with mmc |
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| 15:38.25 | libv | so it is not a hw issue |
| 15:44.35 | libv | any ideas what i should look into to get my mele stable? hf toolchain? fex? u-boot? or is this just a kernel thing? |
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| 15:57.43 | Hexxeh | do you guys have any neat tricks for getting a shell on a device with no serial or usb host ports? |
| 16:00.12 | RaYmAn | what device and what do you have? :) |
| 16:00.22 | Hexxeh | device is a nexus 7 |
| 16:00.34 | Hexxeh | i just have a regular microusb cable |
| 16:00.41 | RaYmAn | I haven't gotten around to testing it yet, but it should be possible to get serial over the uart port |
| 16:00.42 | Hexxeh | got a usb otg cable on order, but it'll take like a week to arrive |
| 16:00.50 | RaYmAn | acccording to kernel source anyways |
| 16:01.07 | RaYmAn | fbcon doesn't work? |
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| 16:01.23 | Hexxeh | well it does, but i can't type anything |
| 16:01.27 | Hexxeh | it's just a touchscreen |
| 16:01.32 | Hexxeh | i need a shell to debug what's going on with the UI |
| 16:01.41 | RaYmAn | ah, right |
| 16:01.42 | Hexxeh | can't even connect network to get SSH |
| 16:02.09 | RaYmAn | otg is probably only way then :/ |
| 16:02.15 | Hexxeh | dayum |
| 16:02.20 | RaYmAn | you got the new chromebook yet? =P |
| 16:02.34 | Hexxeh | i'm blindly throwing userdata images at it trying different things in the hope that one works |
| 16:02.40 | Hexxeh | but at 800MB a pop, it's slow :P |
| 16:02.41 | Hexxeh | not yet |
| 16:02.52 | libv | so a usb keyboard doesn't work either? |
| 16:03.03 | RaYmAn | kind of requires a usb otg cable :P |
| 16:03.09 | Hexxeh | yeah, which i don't have yet |
| 16:03.17 | Hexxeh | atm i'm blindly trying to get wifi connected |
| 16:03.20 | Hexxeh | so that i can get SSH |
| 16:04.11 | RaYmAn | actually |
| 16:04.18 | RaYmAn | you have a regular usb cable to host, yes? |
| 16:04.24 | Hexxeh | yeah |
| 16:04.33 | libv | ok :) |
| 16:04.38 | RaYmAn | setup kernel to do cdc or serial gadget |
| 16:04.41 | RaYmAn | instead of android gadget |
| 16:04.51 | RaYmAn | then make your init setup console on that |
| 16:04.52 | Hexxeh | i uh, have no idea how to do that :P |
| 16:05.07 | Hexxeh | basically trying to do chromium os for tegra 3 devices |
| 16:05.11 | RaYmAn | step 1 is change kernel config in usb gadget setup |
| 16:05.13 | Hexxeh | but this happens to be the only tegra 3 device i have handy |
| 16:07.12 | libv | Hexxeh: give up! |
| 16:07.32 | libv | Hexxeh: and send it to some guy in norway who will hack tegra3 and who will be very grateful :p |
| 16:08.58 | RaYmAn | Hexxeh: basically setup serial gadget (Documentation/usb/gadget_serial.txt ) |
| 16:09.13 | RaYmAn | and make sure you setup something to listen on that serial port |
| 16:09.18 | Hexxeh | downloading kernel source now |
| 16:09.19 | RaYmAn | then you should be able to just connect from host pc |
| 16:11.22 | Gumboot | Does the whole L4T thing not cover ChromeOS? I thought I saw something about it in there, but I really wasn't paying attention. |
| 16:11.57 | Gumboot | Maybe it was Android. I just remember seeing two options. |
| 16:12.01 | RaYmAn | the tegra3 device tree in chromeos does use the L4T drivers. |
| 16:13.00 | RaYmAn | waluigi |
| 16:14.11 | RaYmAn | nvidia kernels & drivers are rather...particular about versions. Every last revision seems to break binary drivers :/ which kind of kills community support a lot. |
| 16:14.12 | Gumboot | OK, initially that looks like a cat jumped on your keyboard, but it's a Nintendo thing, right? |
| 16:14.30 | RaYmAn | It's a google thing presumably |
| 16:14.38 | RaYmAn | some device codenamed waluigi |
| 16:15.07 | Gumboot | Yeah, waluigi as in Wario and Waluigi -- some kind of bad versions of Mario and Luigi. |
| 16:15.14 | RaYmAn | http://git.chromium.org/gitweb/?p=chromiumos/overlays/board-overlays.git;a=tree;f=overlay-waluigi;h=c1eb09b7ad0b28548d4dbdb7dad609e18c4f77bd;hb=HEAD |
| 16:15.17 | Gumboot | Kind of guessing, here. |
| 16:15.38 | RaYmAn | shrugs |
| 16:15.39 | RaYmAn | I guess. |
| 16:22.04 | libv | even though the nightly builds are broken, i want to give them a go to have some solid starting point for testing my mmc |
| 16:24.30 | libv | is there any info on what image does what? |
| 16:24.34 | libv | yergh, 7z |
| 16:24.54 | Hexxeh | RaYmAn: okay, built with that option enabled, what device does it appear as that I can spawn a shell on? |
| 16:25.37 | RaYmAn | I'm guessing it is in the documentation .txt I pointed to - I don't remember |
| 16:27.05 | RaYmAn | looks like it's ttyGS0 on device and ttyACMX on host |
| 16:29.10 | libv | hrm, just grabbed a hyundai a7hd on ebay |
| 16:29.21 | libv | guess i won't be getting an aurora after all |
| 16:39.30 | Hexxeh | hm, abootimg doesn't want to let me build a boot image without a ramdisk |
| 16:40.44 | RaYmAn | just put in a small 1-byte file |
| 16:40.49 | RaYmAn | kernel doesn't seem to care |
| 16:41.00 | Hexxeh | nah, it's failing to boot and dropping me to busybox |
| 16:41.09 | RaYmAn | on tf201, the bootloader is buggy, so that if you don't include a ramdisk, it fails |
| 16:41.12 | Hexxeh | host machine is showing the serial device though which is a good sign |
| 16:41.28 | RaYmAn | oh, so you can build a bootimage, it just doesn't work, or? |
| 16:41.33 | Hexxeh | yeah |
| 16:41.58 | RaYmAn | well, as I said, I had huge issues on tf201 with empty ramdisk. Using a 1-byte ramdisk fixes it |
| 16:42.14 | RaYmAn | (literally nothing happens if you don't have a ramdisk *sigh*) |
| 16:42.46 | Hexxeh | trying that now |
| 16:44.15 | Hexxeh | it's failing to mount root and bailing |
| 16:44.20 | Hexxeh | does fastboot choke on large files? |
| 16:44.25 | Hexxeh | my userdata image is like 800MB |
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| 16:46.32 | Turl | Hexxeh: it used to, at least on some devices |
| 16:47.56 | Hexxeh | any workaround? |
| 16:48.30 | Turl | well, there was a fastboot that did partial uploads for my motorola, but no idea if that required bootloader support or something |
| 16:48.38 | Turl | Hexxeh: what device are you working on? |
| 16:48.41 | Hexxeh | nexus 7 |
| 16:49.00 | Turl | can't you use dd? :P |
| 16:49.25 | Hexxeh | to what? :P |
| 16:49.27 | Hexxeh | all i have is fastboot |
| 16:50.03 | Turl | fastboot flash a recovery |
| 16:50.11 | Turl | then boot into it and dd whatever partition you need |
| 16:50.43 | Hexxeh | hmm, i need to keep this install process simple for people though |
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| 16:52.36 | Hexxeh | btw, how do you repartition these devices? |
| 16:52.45 | Hexxeh | it'd be useful to split userdata into two partitions |
| 16:52.51 | RaYmAn | without nvflash it's a bit annoying |
| 16:53.04 | Hexxeh | eh, i'll leave that and use my hack then |
| 16:53.04 | RaYmAn | tbh, if you want to go that direction, I'd say just stuff an LVM on top of userdata |
| 16:53.20 | Hexxeh | well i can squeeze cros into two partitions |
| 16:53.25 | Hexxeh | and 1 with some patches |
| 16:53.35 | Hexxeh | minimum is really a root and a stateful |
| 16:53.48 | Hexxeh | but if the root is rw you can make stateful a loop mounted file on the root |
| 16:55.16 | Turl | don't you have a system partition though? |
| 16:55.30 | Hexxeh | i do, not using it atm |
| 16:55.36 | Hexxeh | thinking of using it to cache updates on |
| 16:56.30 | RaYmAn | wishes google would let us have nvflash on n7 :( |
| 16:56.54 | Hexxeh | it doesn't work? |
| 16:57.03 | RaYmAn | it's locked down. |
| 16:57.07 | Hexxeh | SBK? |
| 16:57.10 | RaYmAn | yeah |
| 16:57.30 | Hexxeh | is it device specific? |
| 16:57.43 | RaYmAn | not sure |
| 16:58.08 | RaYmAn | but given it is on e.g. tf201, I'd imagine it would be per-device |
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| 17:00.23 | RaYmAn | As far as I have gathered, it's usually set during provisioning (Except samsung who was clevar enough to set it after release through a publicly released bootloader ;)) |
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| 20:13.04 | drachensun | anyone tried a touch screen with xbmc? mine will slide around but wont click like the mouse |
| 20:14.37 | WarheadsSE | what driver are you using it |
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| 20:33.21 | drachensun | ft5x_ts |
| 20:34.25 | WarheadsSE | K, and using evtouch? |
| 20:34.34 | drachensun | I dont think so |
| 20:34.45 | drachensun | will that do it? |
| 20:35.09 | WarheadsSE | it think that is more designed for touch usage as such |
| 20:35.20 | WarheadsSE | I dont have any touch screens myself :/ |
| 20:35.26 | WarheadsSE | at the moment at least |
| 20:35.49 | drachensun | ok, worth a try |
| 20:35.59 | WarheadsSE | or at least a look |
| 20:36.06 | WarheadsSE | one more part of X11 to config. |
| 20:36.34 | drachensun | I had the modify the driver to perform inverts as specified in the fex file and I read on miniand another guy fixed that with evtouch, so it would be a good thing to have working |
| 20:36.39 | drachensun | ugh yeah |
| 20:36.51 | drachensun | I was trying to get the screen to rotate with xrandr, wasted hours and no luck |
| 20:37.03 | drachensun | I can rotate it in the xorg.conf but not on the fly |
| 20:37.10 | drachensun | so no using the g sensor yet |
| 20:38.19 | WarheadsSE | I need to get back to the Mele soon |
| 20:43.59 | drachensun | its been pretty exciting lately, getting xbmc was big too me. |
| 20:44.09 | drachensun | its streaming online videos and everything |
| 20:46.53 | WarheadsSE | It wil be big to our users @ ALARM too |
| 20:47.12 | WarheadsSE | I can *possibly replace my bluray in the living room |
| 20:49.37 | techn_ | WarheadsSE: ALARM? |
| 20:50.44 | WarheadsSE | Arch Linux ARM |
| 20:50.48 | WarheadsSE | acronym |
| 20:51.36 | techn_ | thanks |
| 20:51.47 | WarheadsSE | techn_: np |
| 20:52.04 | WarheadsSE | you'd be surprised the occasional noob that freaks out |
| 20:52.29 | WarheadsSE | think they must have some nasty hacker on their network because their router is displaying "alarm" |
| 20:52.38 | techn_ | :D |
| 20:54.50 | jlj | will it be possible to boot any allwinner A10 system using a single image at some point? |
| 20:55.23 | jlj | seems a lot of them are really similar, but still require different distributions..ie script.bin and stuff |
| 20:56.16 | jlj | would be neat |
| 20:56.50 | drachensun | I doubt the script.bin is going away, it defines physical differences between the boards and there are lot of different ones running around |
| 20:57.55 | jlj | was hoping it maybe could be auto generated at boot or something like that |
| 20:59.12 | jlj | but guess the script.bins are here to stay huh.. oh well they work I guess |
| 21:00.48 | drachensun | well there is a theory the live suit program can autoprobe the settings somehow |
| 21:00.52 | techn_ | jlj: I think current solution is to have general rootfs and hwpack which is device specific |
| 21:01.26 | drachensun | if so, that would mean it might possible to do the same |
| 21:02.19 | jlj | drachensun: that would be nice |
| 21:03.48 | jlj | techn_: yeah I've seen that in some distros. some just seem to have large .imgs for each device type though. |
| 21:04.15 | jlj | might be unofficial ones or something |
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| 21:49.58 | Turl | fuu |
| 21:50.06 | Turl | mnemoc: the sata fix is overclocking my mali >.< |
| 21:55.29 | techn_ | Turl: my mali runs @400Mhz |
| 21:55.53 | techn_ | on mini-x |
| 21:56.38 | Turl | yeah that's 'overclocked' :( |
| 21:56.52 | Turl | causes it to fail after a while of GL ops |
| 21:57.17 | Turl | at 320Mhz (ie, before sata patch) it works fine |
| 22:00.09 | libv | techn_: i am pretty happy with my disp changes atm, things are much more logical, and much cleaner. it will be a big break though |
| 22:00.24 | libv | i am currently struggling with getting mmc stable on the mele, and trying to debug things |
| 22:01.00 | libv | who here is currently actively building and running (stage/)sunxi-3.0 on a mele? |
| 22:01.12 | Turl | mali is sourced from pll4 |
| 22:01.14 | libv | what toolchain, what u-boot, what fex, etc... |
| 22:01.57 | Turl | libv: I ran both 3.0 and 3.4 on mele, it worked fine |
| 22:02.11 | libv | Turl: toolchain, u-boot version? |
| 22:02.37 | Turl | toolchain.. arm-eabi- 4.4.3 from android prebuilts tree |
| 22:02.48 | Turl | uboot, the prebuilt one hno has on its website |
| 22:02.55 | libv | i have the lkcl ubuntu image running stable (armel), but my armhf direct build has a very shaky mmc |
| 22:02.58 | Turl | fex, whatever came in it iirc |
| 22:02.58 | techn_ | libv, I'm using sunxi-bsp with mini-x and a13_mid |
| 22:03.47 | techn_ | toolchain 4.6.3 linaro |
| 22:04.33 | libv | ok, so the first thing to try would be armel? |
| 22:06.11 | techn_ | my u-boot is armel.. rootfs/kernel armhf |
| 22:06.23 | libv | ok? |
| 22:06.57 | techn_ | no problems |
| 22:06.59 | libv | goes and tries that one |
| 22:08.04 | techn_ | full setup is linaro alip + hwpack build with sunxi-bsp where linux branch is changed to stage |
| 22:13.04 | libv | techn_: how are you not running into linking issues with your hf toolchain? |
| 22:13.17 | libv | on uboot |
| 22:13.27 | techn_ | I'm using armel u-boot |
| 22:13.45 | libv | so you built against a completely different toolchain |
| 22:13.58 | techn_ | everthing else is armhf |
| 22:14.01 | libv | than against which you built the kernel |
| 22:16.36 | Turl | techn_: were you hit by 'the sata issue' previously? |
| 22:16.53 | techn_ | Turl: no I don't have sata on my devices |
| 22:18.14 | techn_ | Ok.. sata is on chip but still didn't have any issues |
| 22:18.28 | libv | techn_: if you build uboot with -soft-float against the linaro armhf toolchain, it refuses to link against the libgcc.a in that toolchain |
| 22:18.43 | libv | techn_: so you must've built your uboot against a different toolchain |
| 22:19.13 | techn_ | libv: oh.. I have armel separate toolchain |
| 22:19.23 | libv | ok |
| 22:19.36 | techn_ | *separate armel :) |
| 22:19.47 | libv | :) |
| 22:23.31 | libv | grabs the last linaro armel toolchain and tries uboot with that |
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| 22:41.02 | Turl | I sent a patch to the ML, I'd appreciate testing from people who had the sata issue earlier :) |
| 22:54.27 | ZaEarl | how are we on installing to nand? can we install and run Linux from nand? |
| 22:55.49 | hno | libv, I build u-boot using the linary bare-metal toolchain. |
| 22:56.01 | libv | hno: so hf? |
| 22:56.02 | hno | s/ry/ro/ |
| 22:56.44 | hno | libv, no, soft. GCC supports both. |
| 22:57.09 | libv | yes, but then linking falls over |
| 22:57.09 | hno | but for some reason the armhf toolchain picks up the wrong libs. |
| 22:57.17 | libv | ok |
| 22:57.27 | libv | so "bare-metal" is a special version |
| 22:57.39 | libv | (it is kind of a dubious statement and bad naming then :)) |
| 22:58.19 | libv | or? |
| 22:58.34 | hno | Hmm.. probably the bare-metal toolchain is soft-float by default even. Have never investigated in detail. |
| 22:59.04 | libv | well, the el/hf mix so far is not working well for me, but creating the sd from scratch now |
| 22:59.09 | hno | http://www.linaro.org/downloads/ bottom of the page. |
| 23:00.20 | libv | cool, will give that a whirl soon |
| 23:00.35 | hno | The gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf is supposed to work as well, but something is confused and it picks the wrong gcc libraries at linking. |
| 23:15.43 | Gumboot | Does u-boot actually use floating-point code? |
| 23:16.29 | Gumboot | I guess that's not an issue, is it. The linker will fall to pieces whether it's relevant or not. |
| 23:18.01 | Gumboot | Is there a tool to scratch that information out of the objects so that things can just be got-on-with? |
| 23:20.54 | Turl | hno: it probably lacks the softfp libs |
| 23:21.01 | Turl | like when you use -m32 without gcc-multilib |
| 23:25.47 | Gumboot | I remember seeing the command line option to point the linker at the right files, and was really pleased to finally have that mystery solved, but I then forgot what it was and where I saw it. |
| 23:28.30 | Turl | try installing gcc-multilib package if you're building on linaro |
| 23:38.10 | libv | heh, i do not know what of my poking made it different, will now try again with hf |
| 23:38.14 | libv | mmc seems ok now |
| 23:39.21 | libv | uboot is now armel, image is alip though as i was tired of waiting for the full image to be copied over to the sdcard |
| 23:42.14 | libv | day and night difference though, cpufreq at 'ondemand' seems very fast to 'performance' |
| 23:50.46 | hno | Turl, no, it has the softfp libs, but it's nearly impossible to make it select them. |
| 23:52.35 | hno | *multilib: |
| 23:52.35 | hno | .::arm-linux-gnueabihf !marm !march=armv4t !mfloat-abi=soft;arm-linux-gnueabi marm march=armv4t mfloat-abi=soft; |
| 23:53.18 | hno | seems to only trigger if ALL of -marm -march=armv4t -mfloat-abi=soft, not the expected if any of them is specified. |
| 23:53.52 | hno | s/,/ is specified, |
| 23:54.53 | hno | canging that to ".::arm-linux-gnueabihf !marm !march=armv4t !mfloat-abi=soft;arm-linux-gnueabi mfloat-abi=soft;" works. |
| 23:59.43 | hno | Good, that fixed the linaro 2012.10 toolchain. |