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| 05:45.59 | rm | https://dx.com/p/mini-stm32-stm32f103rbt6-development-board-w-2-8-tft-lcd-touch-screen-157301 |
| 05:46.05 | rm | seems quite cheap for a board+LCD |
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| 06:42.16 | oliv3r | where is linux-sunxi chan! |
| 06:44.32 | rm | right here |
| 06:44.42 | rm | I do not see the value in multiplying a 1000 channels |
| 06:45.09 | rm | with 5 people on each |
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| 07:01.15 | oliv3r | though I agree ith this initially, the channel name is quite missleading and not exactly true :) |
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| 07:31.25 | Tradie | hey i need help with the 1cm on screen shift |
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| 07:31.57 | Tradie | anyone? |
| 07:34.31 | rellla | anyone tried xbmca10 with empatzero's newest commit? |
| 07:34.55 | Tradie | i need help with an a13 |
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| 08:04.18 | lundman | ok |
| 08:06.37 | rm | I wonder why my cross-compiled kernel modules' sizes are 10x smaller |
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| 08:10.01 | aexl | hello |
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| 08:12.35 | rm | hi |
| 08:13.13 | aexl | i've got a microsd sniffer. i can get kernel output. is it possible to get uboot output? |
| 08:18.11 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-Shipping-10pcs-Lot-USB-Female-to-Mini-USB-OTG-Adapter-for-Tablet-PC/542486650.html?cn=null&PID=5374793&tp1=null&tracelog=null&src=ale&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aliexpress.com%2Fitem%2FFree-Shipping-10pcs-Lot-USB-Female-to-Mini-USB-OTG-Adapter-for-Tablet-PC%2F542486650.html&cv=10975781&af=cj_5374793&vd=30 |
| 08:18.14 | rm | this looks nice |
| 08:18.20 | rm | for the MK802's side port |
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| 08:30.08 | Tradie | can anyone help with an a13 with screen issues |
| 08:30.41 | Tradie | i got told to find a guy who can help here |
| 08:35.27 | aexl | @Tradie: and what is the problem |
| 08:37.29 | aexl | i'm no expert. let's keep this public. maybe others can jump in. |
| 08:38.13 | Tradie | no worries. well, my tablet died. i fixed it. theres two roms that take. one has no touchscreen. the other, the actual display is off to the left and up about 1 centimitre |
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| 08:40.58 | aexl | i guess you don't have an original firmware from the vendor? |
| 08:41.08 | Tradie | they woulnt supply it |
| 08:41.27 | aexl | is touchscreen supposed to work in the first rom? |
| 08:41.43 | Tradie | but im getting the exact same tablet off a mate tomorrow, and ill grab the firmware from that. only problem is that i dont know how to make that into a flashable image |
| 08:41.51 | Tradie | and yes it is |
| 08:42.47 | Tradie | and another question, could i add the touchscreen modules from the second rom to the first one? |
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| 08:44.43 | aexl | could be possible. can you boot from sd card? |
| 08:45.11 | Tradie | i have no idea... its just an android tablet if your wondering :P |
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| 08:46.25 | aexl | the only possible way that i know of to copy an existing system is to grab everything from nand via linux from sd card. |
| 08:46.55 | Tradie | i can do system dumps! |
| 08:48.11 | aexl | ?how? |
| 08:48.27 | Tradie | theres is a tool that uses adb to make it all automated |
| 08:48.44 | aexl | what is the output format? |
| 08:49.20 | Tradie | each partition gets pulled to the following files |
| 08:49.35 | Tradie | boot.img data.tgz recovery.img system.tgz |
| 08:50.07 | aexl | then it should be possible to build a new flashable image. |
| 08:50.16 | Tradie | but im not sure how |
| 08:50.58 | aexl | or do you want to use another rom? |
| 08:52.28 | Tradie | i want to add the ts modules from this dump, into a dump of the correct screen placement one, then repackage |
| 08:53.38 | oliv3r | morning everybody :) |
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| 08:55.19 | aexl | hello. |
| 08:55.19 | aexl | @Tradie: hardware is defined in a file in the boot partition (script.bin or such) usually /dev/nanda or /dev/block/nanda. you could also try to edit its display section. |
| 08:56.29 | Tradie | @aexl ive tried that, but every time i go to open the file it is just a bunch of jibberish that notepad++ cant understand |
| 08:56.37 | aexl | copying modules from one to the other should also be possible. /lib/modules/{kernel version}/drivers/input/touchscreen |
| 08:57.05 | oliv3r | So i'm going over some code in drivers/video/sun4i/disp/de_bsp/de/disp_display.c and notice they very clearly define sizes (which is really good I suppose). The A10 manual mentions however very 'wide' sizes. for example a lot of registers are defined as 1KiB in size, when only 12Bytes are being used (See A10/PWM for example). Not now, but in the future, do we want to have proper definitions on the A10 registers page? Or leave them as per datasheet at |
| 08:57.48 | aexl | you'd have to translate the bin with https://github.com/amery/sunxi-tools |
| 08:58.09 | Tradie | is that a linux commandset |
| 08:58.18 | Tradie | or can i load it in cygwin or just windows |
| 08:58.26 | Tradie | i dont want to reboot to linux |
| 08:59.46 | aexl | i suppose that's what cygwin was made for. i'm guessing there is also a win tool for that ... |
| 08:59.48 | oliv3r | setup a simple VM for that kinda of stuff :) |
| 09:00.04 | oliv3r | or, run windows in a linux VM! |
| 09:00.18 | Tradie | my pc can handle vms easy so i probably should |
| 09:00.36 | Tradie | but another point... will a .fex be readable by notepad++ |
| 09:00.58 | aexl | notepad2 is my choice. |
| 09:01.02 | oliv3r | gvim for windows? |
| 09:01.22 | Tradie | notepad++ is like the ulitmate text editor ive ever found |
| 09:02.14 | oliv3r | na, vim :p |
| 09:02.19 | Tradie | ill take a look :) |
| 09:02.48 | Tradie | could you give me a rundown on that package you gave me |
| 09:02.55 | Tradie | like what commands do i use |
| 09:03.02 | aexl | as long as it can handle unix line endings ... |
| 09:04.16 | aexl | make and https://github.com/amery/sunxi-tools#readme ;) |
| 09:04.46 | Tradie | thanks |
| 09:05.32 | aexl | welcome |
| 09:05.57 | Tradie | ill be back to tell you how it goes later :) |
| 09:06.25 | aexl | good luck |
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| 09:27.12 | oliv3r | someone able to share some insights? THere's a timer IRQ enable register. it has two options, 0 and 1; if I write 1 to it, it should enable the interrupt for the timer, but writting 0 has no effect. So once enabled, how would I disable said interupt? |
| 09:29.02 | oliv3r | if in doubt, check the source! |
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| 09:38.20 | rm | did you try "2" or "-1"? :P |
| 09:38.21 | mnemoc | oliv3r: try the linux-sunxi mailing list |
| 09:38.43 | mnemoc | -1 is a bit large... |
| 09:39.13 | oliv3r | i don' thave hardware :p |
| 09:39.24 | mnemoc | oliv3r: get one :) |
| 09:39.28 | oliv3r | i'm reading the datasheet, and it says 0 no effect, 1 interupt enable |
| 09:39.33 | oliv3r | mnemoc: I know! |
| 09:39.42 | oliv3r | mnemoc: a bit strapped on cash at the moment :) |
| 09:39.45 | oliv3r | and time :p |
| 09:40.00 | oliv3r | mnemoc: I will sign up to the linux-sunxi mailing list however :) |
| 09:40.15 | oliv3r | i'll study sunxi-wdt.c atm to find out how hno did it |
| 09:46.51 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 09:56.43 | mnemoc | hipboi: hi, is it possible to get some feedback from matson hall about the last sata fix patch on the ML? |
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| 09:57.38 | mnemoc | :( |
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| 10:28.35 | mnemoc | hno: when you get a minute, can you comment on the latest "sata fix" patch from guillaume? It's totally out of scope for me so I don't know what to do |
| 10:30.52 | hno | oliv3r, the wdt is documented in my little register guide. |
| 10:31.55 | oliv3r | ah, should have looked there |
| 10:32.24 | oliv3r | well i haven't (yet) found any interupt enable/disable reference in the wdt, but i guess makes sense, if it's enabled/disabled globally on a higher lvl |
| 10:32.54 | oliv3r | IntCtl is undefined :( |
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| 10:52.09 | oliv3r | hno: nope can't find any reference in your code to 0x000; IntCtl (under Interrupt?) |
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| 10:57.23 | lundman | interupt control! |
| 10:57.25 | lundman | there, I helped |
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| 11:13.09 | oliv3r | :D |
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| 11:13.38 | oliv3r | CNTL or CTRL; i think the linux kernel generally uses 'CTNL' as abbreviation? |
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| 13:55.07 | Turl | CTRL sounds more natural to me, it's what's written on the 'Control' key |
| 13:57.10 | mnemoc | ctnl sounds more like "controller" to me |
| 13:58.04 | mnemoc | cntl* |
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| 14:14.00 | oliv3r | so CNTL for controller, and CTRL for control? |
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| 14:15.10 | aexl | hello again |
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| 16:51.52 | Turl | mnemoc: ping |
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| 17:09.59 | mnemoc | Turl: |
| 17:13.23 | Turl | mnemoc: any idea what's that pirateish-shaped thing next to the sata connector on cubieboard? |
| 17:13.46 | Turl | http://cubieboard.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/cubieboard_coin2.jpg next to the coin |
| 17:14.01 | mnemoc | Turl: IR |
| 17:14.19 | mnemoc | an annoyingly tall IR receiver |
| 17:17.57 | rm | and yay, another +32 MB |
| 17:18.02 | rm | by disabling Mali |
| 17:18.34 | mnemoc | with mali disabled you can make fb mem dynamic |
| 17:18.42 | rm | now I have [ 0.000000] LCD : 0x5a000000 - 0x5bffffff ( 32 MB) |
| 17:18.46 | rm | how to get rid of that? |
| 17:18.58 | mnemoc | that's FB |
| 17:21.48 | mnemoc | if you want to use an smaller fbcon, disable CONFIG_FB_SUNXI_RESERVED_MEM |
| 17:22.49 | mnemoc | if you don't want FB at all, disable CONFIG_FB_SUNXI itself |
| 17:24.31 | rm | mnemoc, I do not have *FB_SUNXI* in my config |
| 17:24.41 | mnemoc | branch/ver? |
| 17:24.47 | rm | 3.0.42 |
| 17:25.06 | rm | the default branch I believe, "....v2" |
| 17:25.28 | mnemoc | CONFIG_LYCHEE_FB_SUN4I |
| 17:25.48 | rm | # CONFIG_LYCHEE_FB_SUN4I is not set |
| 17:26.02 | mnemoc | updat your tree :) |
| 17:26.54 | mnemoc | .oO |
| 17:26.56 | mnemoc | 1m |
| 17:28.45 | hno | oliv3r, the sunxi wdt is very simple. A countdown timer with IRQ and RESET connected to it's output pin. |
| 17:28.49 | mnemoc | Turl: annoyingly tall. http://i.imgur.com/Lu5uEh.jpg |
| 17:29.13 | hno | for use as WDT you enabled the RESET function. Not sure when one would like to use IRQ instead. |
| 17:29.23 | rm | thanks, actually I did check out the tag "3.0.42" |
| 17:30.03 | mnemoc | rm: doth |
| 17:30.06 | mnemoc | doh* |
| 17:30.32 | mnemoc | rm: this change comes right after the sunxi-v3.0.42-r1 tag, so you need the HEAD of the branch |
| 17:30.39 | rm | also, I have another problem (h/w) |
| 17:30.54 | rm | mk802 reboot does not seem to work when a powered USB hub is connected |
| 17:30.58 | rm | not sure this is solvable |
| 17:31.05 | rm | the hub seems to power mk802 as well |
| 17:31.11 | rm | in addition to the PSU |
| 17:31.30 | rm | because when unplugging the PSU but not the hub, the mk802 LED stays on |
| 17:31.34 | mnemoc | and the hdmi, and the uart :p |
| 17:31.51 | rm | no workaround? |
| 17:31.58 | mnemoc | fix hw |
| 17:32.22 | mnemoc | but the SoC better really powered off regardless the led |
| 17:32.28 | mnemoc | s/better/gets/ |
| 17:35.59 | mnemoc | Turl: it's unfair, my IR doesn't have eyes |
| 17:39.23 | Turl | mnemoc: :) |
| 17:42.34 | rm | mnemoc, awesome, thanks - Mem: 507952 |
| 17:43.34 | mnemoc | rm: yw :) |
| 17:43.53 | rm | uploaded to http://media.romanrm.ru/a10/server/3.0.42-rm3+/ |
| 17:45.02 | rm | config now also has USB sound cards, USB DisplayLink (VGA), USB 3G Modems enabled |
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| 18:04.02 | drachensun | Anyone know what rootfs I should get to pull one with HF? |
| 18:04.16 | drachensun | I've been getting the linaro alip origen 12.09 |
| 18:04.33 | drachensun | which works well but I think empat0 needs the armel not armhf |
| 18:04.58 | drachensun | maybe that is wrong too though, and it I don't need armel, I will just take another run at building it |
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| 18:06.17 | rm | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_image/ here's a good one in the bottom part (Debian Wheezy) |
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| 18:10.18 | Turl | rm: ipv6, nfs? :) |
| 18:10.26 | cromo | hi. I have set up xbmca10 and it seems to work except for a sound lagging behind and video stuttering a bit. It seems it only starts to stutter after the sound kicks in. I am not sure whether it's only me here or is just the current state of xbmca10? other than that, it's quite impressive I must say |
| 18:10.54 | rm | Turl, yes, and.... |
| 18:11.08 | rm | yes. |
| 18:11.14 | drachensun | cromo: did you build on hard float libraries? |
| 18:11.23 | Turl | rm: nfs server right? |
| 18:11.24 | cromo | drachensun: AFIK there are none? |
| 18:11.26 | rm | Turl, my mk802 is the IPv6 VPN router in my LAN |
| 18:11.33 | Turl | nice |
| 18:11.39 | cromo | I mean, cedarx is only available as armel at the moment |
| 18:11.58 | rm | CONFIG_NFS_V3=y # CONFIG_NFSD is not set |
| 18:12.57 | rm | will enable nfsd next time |
| 18:13.21 | Turl | it'd be good to maintain a single "A10-server" config |
| 18:13.27 | drachensun | cromo: ok, so if the rest of my system is setup for hard float, will that cedar driver work with it? |
| 18:13.29 | Turl | I have my own too :P |
| 18:13.51 | rm | oh and it also handles a webcam and an LCD screen displaying a weather report |
| 18:13.53 | cromo | drachensun: I am same here, I run xbmc from within armel chroot |
| 18:14.13 | rm | and an USB temperature sensor |
| 18:14.15 | rm | so it's a "server" in a broad sense of the word, a home automation server of sorts :) |
| 18:14.21 | drachensun | ahh ok |
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| 18:15.05 | Turl | free on my mele shows 511820 |
| 18:15.17 | drachensun | I think I will just setup a second card with this debian image and use that to try it |
| 18:21.40 | cromo | drachensun: what distro are you normally on? |
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| 18:48.23 | drachensun | cromo: I'm using linaro alip 12.09. Which I think really means Im on ubuntu |
| 18:49.18 | cromo | use debootstrap and schroot |
| 18:49.18 | drachensun | I was thinking they probably had a non-hf package running around but I haven't found it. I'm starting to think they upgraded at some point and stopped having the armel version |
| 18:49.50 | cromo | non-hf package needs non-hd dependencies |
| 18:50.02 | cromo | *non-hf dependencies |
| 18:50.20 | cromo | add ubuntu sources to apt/sources.list |
| 18:50.30 | cromo | use debootstrap to create armel chroot |
| 18:50.51 | cromo | use schroot for ease things up with mounting dev, proc, sys |
| 18:51.01 | drachensun | Ok, I haven't used it before but I've got a page up now, it looks pretty straight forward |
| 18:51.07 | cromo | it is |
| 18:51.42 | drachensun | well thats a perfect solution then, i can keep it on the same image |
| 18:51.54 | cromo | my schroot.conf: http://pastebin.com/mZXkBBNq |
| 18:52.00 | drachensun | so does xbmc not use anything from x or is it going to have its own copy? |
| 18:52.10 | cromo | no, it uses framebuffer |
| 18:52.15 | cromo | no X dependencies |
| 18:54.21 | cromo | my /etc/schroot/xbmc/fstab : http://pastebin.com/dij4wcvc |
| 18:54.34 | cromo | the rest in /etc/schroot/xbmc is copied over from /etc/schroot/default |
| 18:55.33 | drachensun | ok cool, I'll try that tonight. thanks for the advice. |
| 18:55.44 | drachensun | is that fstab right? a delay loop? |
| 18:56.42 | hno | that's not an fstab. |
| 18:56.44 | cromo | it's not usable on its own, schroot uses it |
| 18:57.23 | cromo | wtf is that |
| 18:57.30 | cromo | hold on, wrong paste |
| 18:58.02 | cromo | http://pastebin.com/bmrzyrkB |
| 18:58.29 | drachensun | yeah, that makes a lot more sense |
| 18:58.50 | drachensun | ok, thanks, I gotta run the office is calling... |
| 18:58.56 | cromo | sure |
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| 19:00.29 | Xlab | Hi all. I wonder if there are any differences between r2p3/r2p4/r3p0 etc mali drivers, who can help? |
| 19:02.25 | techn | Xlab: yes there are differences.. there is even multiple different lib for every release |
| 19:02.42 | Xlab | Oh, I mean any improvements |
| 19:02.52 | techn | armel, armhf, with/without X support |
| 19:02.54 | Xlab | not only numbers & compatibility stuff |
| 19:02.56 | Turl | nobody knows, they are proprietary |
| 19:03.15 | Xlab | okay :/ |
| 19:04.37 | Turl | it'd be stupid to introduce bugs only on newer releases, so one can suppose they're incrementally better |
| 19:05.37 | rm | from what I understand the r3p0 is the latest and also it is the one people had some good success with getting X11 acceleration going |
| 19:05.45 | techn | best lib currently is r2p4 armhf if you want x11 support.. r2p4 armel if you want armel support without x11.. |
| 19:06.16 | rm | techn, why not r3p0 for armhf x11? |
| 19:06.21 | Turl | r3p0 if you want android |
| 19:06.39 | Xlab | I'm bulding OE, so will try r2p4 armel then |
| 19:06.42 | techn | rm: I used r2p4 |
| 19:07.02 | techn | we dont have r3p0/1 armel libs or x11 support |
| 19:08.06 | rm | afaik rz2k had success with armhf x11 and r3p0 even getting DRI to work |
| 19:08.24 | techn | but I'm hoping to get proper libs for x11 armhf this week |
| 19:10.49 | rz2k | rm: dri is first part of the story, second is proper libs and ump stuff. |
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| 19:26.57 | afgdsgh | hi |
| 19:27.06 | afgdsgh | whats the difference between RK3066 and A10 winner ? |
| 19:27.34 | techn | http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400, I updated my knowledbe of the libs |
| 19:28.52 | techn | Turl: I'll update that android knowledge there too |
| 19:31.02 | techn | Turl: In theory r3p1 should work with android too? |
| 19:37.04 | Turl | yeah but tom didn't build r3p1 for android as far as I know |
| 19:38.33 | techn | ok.. where is r3p0 libs you are using? |
| 19:39.28 | Turl | they're posted on the wiki I think |
| 19:42.27 | techn | I checked.. and it's build with same flags, so it should work ;) |
| 19:42.42 | Turl | but it's linked to bionic I'm guessing :) |
| 19:46.17 | RaYmAn | minor issue! Libhybris to the rescue :P |
| 19:47.14 | Turl | ha |
| 19:47.30 | Turl | RaYmAn: isn't libhybris for the opposite direction? |
| 19:47.39 | Turl | (android libs over typical distro) |
| 19:48.01 | RaYmAn | It's for using android libs from a plain linux distro, yes |
| 19:48.27 | Turl | we're talking of running distro libs on top of android :p |
| 19:48.47 | RaYmAn | shrugs |
| 19:49.05 | RaYmAn | that's kind of pointless when we have fully functional android libs and crappy semi working distro libs :P |
| 19:51.10 | Turl | my point :P |
| 19:53.06 | L84Supper | http://slashdot.org/topic/cloud/motorolas-whacked-lapdock-can-make-raspberry-pi-base/ no more Webtops to play with |
| 19:54.08 | L84Supper | on the other hand, the tooling should be a bargain now |
| 19:55.04 | RaYmAn | oooh, my Stellaris LaunchPad's shipped :D |
| 19:55.31 | L84Supper | http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57527168-94/motorola-confirms-death-of-webtop-laptop-accessories/ |
| 19:56.48 | L84Supper | "Motorola was killing off Webtop at Google's behest, citing unnamed sources. " |
| 19:57.00 | L84Supper | so Google has other plans |
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| 19:57.38 | TomNL | guys, i updated my mele to latest android..now i dont het any serial out any more and cant seem to boot of SD...anyone familiar with this? |
| 19:57.41 | L84Supper | I gues they want everyone to buy Chromebooks |
| 20:20.25 | Turl | ha http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57527782-94/lawmakers-to-u.s-companies-dont-buy-huawei-zte/ |
| 20:28.21 | jelly-home | pfft |
| 20:28.38 | jelly-home | a bit too late for that |
| 20:35.31 | afgdsgh | hey what graphic card it has Cortex-A5 Telechip TCC892 ? |
| 20:38.36 | mnemoc | a card inside a chip? |
| 20:41.20 | mnemoc | quick googling suggests the TCC892 has a Mali400 GPU |
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| 20:54.05 | WarheadsSE | steev: ding |
| 20:54.21 | steev | what? |
| 20:54.52 | steev | unless you meant ping |
| 20:54.55 | WarheadsSE | turns out I had a few slipshod capacitor solders on my n6x, hence my fu-whaaa?! problems with SATA/uSD |
| 20:54.57 | steev | in which case, still, what? |
| 20:55.01 | steev | ahh |
| 20:55.51 | WarheadsSE | I have the picture on G+, but limited |
| 20:56.54 | WarheadsSE | hmm, should be able to get this .. pm |
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| 21:18.40 | L84Supper | mnemoc, just FYI, getting money into China is easy, it's the getting it out part that can be difficult at times |
| 21:19.39 | mnemoc | :) |
| 21:20.17 | L84Supper | the $50K limit applies to citizens of China per year |
| 21:20.35 | L84Supper | expats are limited only by their tax receipts |
| 21:20.48 | L84Supper | as far as transferring money out |
| 21:20.59 | L84Supper | you can transfer any amount in to China |
| 21:21.30 | mnemoc | case 1 was to get the bitcoin money turned into pounds and then wired to china |
| 21:21.57 | L84Supper | businesses have different rules, they have no real limits unless things look odd to the banks |
| 21:22.02 | mnemoc | case 2 get the bitcoins converted to yuan in china and someone there paying the factory |
| 21:22.46 | L84Supper | any currency can come in and be exchanged for RMB |
| 21:23.06 | mnemoc | but bitcoins coming from worldwide converted to pounds and then wired to china doesn't make the uk tax office nervious? |
| 21:23.13 | L84Supper | ot sure if anyone recognizes bitcoin in China yet though :) |
| 21:24.04 | L84Supper | it's the bitcoins showing up in the UK that will probably get the attention |
| 21:24.09 | mnemoc | https://btcchina.com/ |
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| 21:24.54 | L84Supper | not sure about UK law, but there might just be paperwork to file to transfer very large sums out to China |
| 21:25.19 | mnemoc | ~70 yuan = 1 bitcoin puts that in something like $10 instead of the $2.5 I thought they were |
| 21:25.34 | L84Supper | there are stories about 500K transactions being held and accounts frozen until everything is clear about liability |
| 21:26.35 | L84Supper | commercials banks can handle all of this |
| 21:26.36 | mnemoc | i doubt we can raise 500k :p |
| 21:26.51 | L84Supper | why collect bitcoins? |
| 21:27.20 | L84Supper | paypal china can convert to RMB and pay the vendor |
| 21:27.46 | L84Supper | you just need somebody in china to trust with the collection efforts |
| 21:27.53 | mnemoc | that thread was started by the bitcoin guy |
| 21:27.59 | L84Supper | same for anywhere really |
| 21:28.01 | mnemoc | and I suggested paypal :p |
| 21:28.32 | L84Supper | banks in Hing Kong as well |
| 21:28.49 | L84Supper | Hong Kong, not sure about Hing Kong :) |
| 21:29.16 | mnemoc | ideal seems to be to have an account in a .hk branch of a uk/us bank + paypal |
| 21:29.51 | L84Supper | HSBC |
| 21:29.52 | mnemoc | fees and delays wise |
| 21:29.57 | mnemoc | yes |
| 21:30.19 | L84Supper | you can setup an account in China and wherever else they are |
| 21:30.46 | L84Supper | but getting money out of China is still the difficult direction |
| 21:30.53 | L84Supper | getting it in is easy |
| 21:31.17 | mnemoc | it might be because he is chinese, but Tom has been months waiting to get his company account approved |
| 21:31.32 | L84Supper | yes, he has to register |
| 21:31.45 | L84Supper | not sure how he handled that |
| 21:32.08 | L84Supper | or what class of company he registered as |
| 21:33.26 | L84Supper | AFAIK a high tech co needs 1,000,000 rmb in order to register, but thats the catch 22, how do you get 1M to start? |
| 21:33.45 | mnemoc | :< |
| 21:33.51 | L84Supper | you need the registration to get the bank account |
| 21:35.00 | L84Supper | IANAL esp a Chinese one, but he probably should have done this a bit differently |
| 21:35.35 | mnemoc | more than likely |
| 21:36.25 | L84Supper | is that the problem Tom is having? |
| 21:37.09 | mnemoc | afaik he is simply waiting to get the company account approved |
| 21:37.46 | mnemoc | and his personal bank doesn't want to give him the money he withdrew from paypal |
| 21:38.11 | L84Supper | the tax man |
| 21:38.40 | L84Supper | well it's tough since he already started down this path |
| 21:38.51 | mnemoc | otoh alibaba doesn't pay him until people receives the products, so doesn't help funding |
| 21:39.36 | L84Supper | yeah, he should have consulted with a financial expert first |
| 21:39.48 | mnemoc | eventually things will get solved |
| 21:40.22 | L84Supper | also depends on who is working with the get everything setup |
| 21:41.12 | L84Supper | that explains the sudden stop |
| 21:49.29 | mnemoc | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/crowdsource_funding/ still has only 3 people listed :< |
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| 22:12.07 | jelly-home | Please put your name (or other mnemonic) "mnemoc" # doin' it wrong! <g> |
| 22:13.00 | zub | http://linux.fjfi.cvut.cz/~zub/sun4i/0001-drivers-make-dependency-of-axp_power-on-INPUT-explic.patch ... a trivial one, but still :) |
| 22:13.25 | zub | created on top of linux-sunxi-3.4 |
| 22:15.09 | mnemoc | zub: valid for 3.0 too? |
| 22:15.17 | mnemoc | jelly-home: :) |
| 22:15.26 | zub | haven't tried... but I can have a look |
| 22:16.55 | zub | funny... stripping down defconfig I'm in a state that ifconfig and dhclient always die with some horrible kernel message. but defconfig itself works... |
| 22:19.03 | zub | CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INTEGRITY ... should this be enabled? it is in defconfig, and I had a config that dies on kernel startup when the option is off and works when it's on. but with a different config it seems to work when it's off. does the HW really have any support for this integrity stuff? |
| 22:21.19 | zub | mnemoc: the same issue (using input_* from drivers/power/axp_power/axp*-sply.c) is present in allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 + patch applies cleanly |
| 22:21.26 | zub | -> I'd say yup, also for allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 |
| 22:22.35 | Turl | mnemoc: do you want me to redo my patch in that other way? I don't have any preference for either format |
| 22:26.39 | mnemoc | Turl: I only made questions. I'm no dictator |
| 22:26.53 | mnemoc | zub: thank you! I'll apply it on both |
| 22:27.20 | zub | n/p, it's trivial anyway |
| 22:28.34 | mnemoc | trivial but missing |
| 22:29.45 | Turl | there's a lot of trivial stuff missing, and it's equally important :) |
| 22:36.00 | Turl | mnemoc: http://sprunge.us/DWBA |
| 22:41.43 | zub | http://linux.fjfi.cvut.cz/~zub/sun4i/mk802-eth-crash.log any idea? |
| 22:42.08 | zub | (look at "zub@mk802:~$ /sbin/ifconfig") |
| 22:42.37 | mnemoc | Turl: ML, but the first question remains unanswered, and the "likely" seems unneeded |
| 22:42.52 | zub | just the ifconfig process dies. the same happens for dhclient, so it seem anything accessing the network interfaces dies |
| 22:43.43 | Turl | mnemoc: the likely is a compiler optimization hint |
| 22:43.48 | zub | I can find the cause by going from defconfig (where it works) to mu stripped down config (where this happens), but I'm asking in case it was something obvious... |
| 22:44.08 | mnemoc | Turl: yes, to optimize branches, but in this case it doesn't give any gain imo |
| 22:44.20 | mnemoc | zub: weird |
| 22:44.46 | Turl | mnemoc: ==NULL happens only once on my testing |
| 22:44.51 | Turl | so it's unlikely |
| 22:44.57 | mnemoc | ok |
| 22:46.14 | zub | I'll try to figure the network issue tomorrow. 'night |
| 22:49.05 | mnemoc | i'm going to sleep too. good night |
| 22:49.26 | mnemoc | Turl: ML please ;-) there is an open thread to close :) |
| 22:49.45 | mnemoc | don't forget the reply-to argument |
| 22:51.03 | Turl | mnemoc: yep give me a minute |
| 22:51.24 | Turl | mnemoc: btw, "tty: sunxi-8250: fix something in the hackery with more hackery" doesn't seem to fix the issue with the console spamming those lines |
| 22:57.28 | mnemoc | :( |
| 22:57.35 | mnemoc | good to sleep now |
| 22:57.39 | mnemoc | good night |
| 22:58.20 | Turl | mnemoc: I'm sending it now |
| 22:58.26 | Turl | mnemoc: what should I type on message-id? |
| 23:09.22 | Turl | rm do you have your server config somewhere online? |
| 23:40.34 | Marex | Turl: that likely() is there mostly for intel |
| 23:40.53 | Marex | on intel, the in-CPU branch predictor can be programmed and can be hinted |
| 23:41.15 | Marex | so if you generate proper code, the CPU will execute the code a bit faster |
| 23:41.49 | Marex | if there's no hint, the CPU prefetches both results of the jump ... if there's hint, it prefetches only one (the expected one) and doesn't prefetch the other |
| 23:42.01 | Marex | in case the prefetch is incorrect, it's dropped and the correct one is fetched |
| 23:42.34 | Marex | but if it fetches the correct one n-times and 1 times the incorrect one, the sum gain is actually better |
| 23:42.51 | Marex | zub: you're fjfi ? :D |
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