| 00:32.13 | Turl | hno: checked msm and apparently it does the same as I was doing |
| 00:32.17 | Turl | hno: ended up with this https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/1e7105fcb1869de76a2e530d2bac6c21dee15574 |
| 02:14.30 | ZaEarl | WARNING IRQ 23 crazy! |
| 02:14.34 | ZaEarl | lol |
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| 07:05.06 | zub | hno: aaah, I recall seeing something about that; got more info? also, from a practical standpoint, how can I access these... I guess I'd need some "connector-style" uSD |
| 07:06.44 | zub | anyway, I got my mk802-turned-headless-wifi-router running :) |
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| 07:16.59 | hno | zub, http://linux-sunxi.org/MicroSD_Breakout |
| 07:17.33 | oliv3r | hipboi schoud have those in his shop :D |
| 07:17.49 | oliv3r | The ali-express link no longer works |
| 07:18.23 | oliv3r | the deal-extreme one is 'messy' but cheap and could work; and the ....forgot the name one is expensive :( |
| 07:18.38 | zub | hno: thanks |
| 07:18.56 | hno | I think Tom have breakout boards available on request. |
| 07:21.43 | rm | zub, also using the MK802 as your AP? |
| 07:21.58 | zub | rm: yes |
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| 07:22.32 | rm | nice |
| 07:22.38 | rm | is reception any good? |
| 07:23.06 | zub | rm: signal strength seems quite high... ok even on my wifi-challenged HTC phone |
| 07:23.28 | zub | as for speed... didn't do any tests apart for clicking youtube, but I don't care much, as long as it's not terribly slow |
| 07:23.42 | zub | ~ seems to work ok enough for me |
| 07:24.24 | zub | rm: did you add a heat sink? I haven't... but I feel uneasy about how hot does the CPU (and RAM) get |
| 07:25.11 | zub | haven't had any stability issues... but I haven't been using it for long periods of time yet, and didn't do anything too cpu-intensive |
| 07:25.24 | rm | zub, no |
| 07:25.28 | rm | use cpufreq |
| 07:25.39 | rm | also use a kernel with Mali disabled |
| 07:26.03 | rm | http://linux-sunxi.org/Cpufreq |
| 07:26.16 | rm | => mine runs mildly warm |
| 07:26.17 | lundman | and fixed nic driver for more smooth throughput |
| 07:26.27 | rm | it was extremely hot in Android while driving a HDMI display |
| 07:26.39 | zub | I tried to kill some config options in kernel, but ran into missing dependencies... fixed these, then had a kernel that freezes; but yup, I'll work on slimming it down to remove unneeded garbage |
| 07:26.51 | rm | lundman, that's mk802, no wemac here :p |
| 07:27.00 | lundman | huh |
| 07:27.04 | lundman | i assumed it has some ether |
| 07:27.07 | lundman | er same |
| 07:27.14 | rm | it has if you add an USB dongle |
| 07:27.22 | zub | what's wemac? I remember seeing some such config option in kernel, but it was 3am, so I don't remember much :) |
| 07:27.32 | rm | it's the A10's built in NIC |
| 07:27.37 | lundman | ah |
| 07:27.46 | lundman | yeah the usb ethers ran pretty well |
| 07:28.28 | zub | rm: so that's the eth0... something partially present in CPU but not connected on the mk802? |
| 07:35.58 | rm | yeah |
| 07:36.18 | rm | it's fully present in the CPU, but not connected to anything out of it |
| 07:43.19 | zub | ok, I'll remove it from config to get rid of the ghost eth0 :) |
| 07:44.04 | andoma | hi, i boot my allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 kernel with console=ttyS0,115200 to gain console access for login. "problem" is that the kernel outputs all messages twice. seems once from some low level console output and once from the ttyS0 console driver |
| 07:44.08 | andoma | any clues how to fix this? |
| 07:45.05 | andoma | also it panics unless i disable some PM code in drivers/tty/serial/8250_sunxi.c |
| 07:45.24 | andoma | those things might be related. i'll continue to dig but i just wanted to check if anyone knows anything about it |
| 07:49.42 | hno | andoma, the double output is a known problem. iirc it's due to how allwinner added their low level debug output support in combination with other allwinner hacks needing low level debug output to always be compiled i. |
| 07:50.10 | hno | not familiar with PM related panics there. |
| 07:52.28 | rz2k | <rm> it's fully present in the CPU - still needs realtek rtl8201cp :3 |
| 07:52.41 | rz2k | check cubieboard\mele pcb's. |
| 07:52.44 | zub | what is the origin of git://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner.git? and is there any support/participation from Allwinner? Or is it just based on tarballs they have released over the time? |
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| 07:53.30 | hno | zub, there is currently no active participation by Allwinner. But it's a long story. |
| 07:53.59 | rz2k | only official participation from allwinner is https://github.com/allwinnerwk |
| 07:54.15 | zub | the quality of the allwinner-specific code seems... well, worse than the upstream code. reminds me of freescale's hacks. |
| 07:55.16 | zub | I saw some comments in chinese in the sources :) |
| 07:55.18 | andoma | hno: mkay i'll guess i'll just live with it for now then |
| 07:55.40 | hno | zub, it's a small chineese fabless semiconductor company.. their focus is on delivering at low cost not code quality. |
| 07:56.13 | zub | m'kay... /me just hates ugly code |
| 07:57.07 | andoma | so the plan is to rewrite all code from allwinner into decent style? |
| 08:25.25 | mnemoc | it's not only about style. it has to be rewritten using the common frameworks instead of their "homegrown" ways |
| 08:28.36 | mnemoc | i hope to be able to have a semi-working pinctrl driver this weekend |
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| 08:39.00 | TomNL | lundman: is it possible to use your wemac patched kernel to boot android from nand? |
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| 09:08.16 | TomNL | guys, how is android jellybean doing for a10? |
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| 09:09.43 | mnemoc | TomNL: poke Quarx |
| 09:18.31 | lundman | ah |
| 09:18.50 | lundman | I made my patch for android too, but I'm not sure how you are connecting nand intoit |
| 09:19.43 | TomNL | http://lundman.net/wiki/index.php/MeLe_A2000#Android_4_ICS_wired_NIC_patch |
| 09:20.03 | TomNL | i can use this image to use patched kernel right? |
| 09:20.18 | TomNL | i will try and built xbmca10 for xbmc |
| 09:21.12 | TomNL | did you test? Mele_HTPC_120907_Ver1.2.rar, is this the image with the chinese ad's on the main screen? |
| 09:22.13 | lundman | if you have the ICS "good" version on your mele, boot linux, mount the nand and dd the new kernel over |
| 09:22.28 | TomNL | ok thnx |
| 09:22.39 | lundman | ie, Mele_HTPC_Android_4.0_V1.ddimg.bin.bz2 |
| 09:32.29 | orly_owl | rm: did you get that mini a10 box? |
| 09:32.52 | rm | the one sold with a keyboard? |
| 09:33.03 | orly_owl | i think yeah |
| 09:33.10 | rm | no, that might have been a scam |
| 09:33.12 | orly_owl | it had 2 usb ports on front |
| 09:33.16 | orly_owl | and an antenna |
| 09:33.18 | orly_owl | oh >_> |
| 09:34.03 | orly_owl | are mk802+ and mk802 II the same? |
| 09:34.12 | mnemoc | no |
| 09:34.27 | orly_owl | whats the difference then |
| 09:39.25 | mnemoc | orly_owl: http://blog.mcbub.com/index.php/new-items/u-host-vs-mk802-vs-rikomagic-mk802-ii-what-is-the-winner/ |
| 09:46.34 | jelly | 1.5GHz? |
| 09:50.22 | rm | the article kind of sucks |
| 09:50.34 | rm | does not contest that it's "1.5 GHz" |
| 09:51.04 | rm | lists a number of irrelevant firmware features like "3G support" and "Skype" |
| 09:51.19 | lundman | i ran skype on mele, whats the big deal |
| 09:51.19 | mnemoc | i only looked at the pictures and specs table :< ... should have lmgtfy instead :< |
| 09:51.29 | lundman | got camera working too |
| 09:52.39 | mnemoc | above 1.2 the A10 is unusable. chine marketing adds up the Hz of the arm core and the gpu, that's how the come up with the 1.5 |
| 09:52.50 | mnemoc | chinese* |
| 09:53.19 | mnemoc | thing becomes funny with multicore chips |
| 09:54.18 | jelly | oh, just like my vSphere cluster runs on 160GHz |
| 09:54.44 | mnemoc | :) |
| 09:55.17 | oliv3r | Time to work on some more doc wiki-ing :) |
| 09:55.45 | oliv3r | How long will the A10 be usefull at all? (Maybe assuming the A15 will be quite the same) how much of this doc work will be in feign? |
| 09:55.50 | mnemoc | oliv3r: don't forget the A10/PIO tables :) |
| 09:56.56 | mnemoc | oliv3r: there are many uses for inexpensive cortex-a8. ... not in fancy tablets or laptops, but in industrial applications |
| 09:58.23 | mnemoc | the next soc from allwinner will most likely keep everything from the a10 except the gpu and arm parts |
| 09:59.44 | mnemoc | if you look at the datasheet of it's predecessor, the f20, they are very similar |
| 10:03.28 | mnemoc | same comparing sun3i and sun4i drivers |
| 10:05.23 | oliv3r | i figure, but i don't wanna spend all this time wikifying it, just to have nobody actually look at it : |
| 10:06.53 | mnemoc | oliv3r: we need to rewrite almost every single piece of code. believe me, we will look at it |
| 10:07.52 | oliv3r | good good |
| 10:08.20 | oliv3r | is there a 'todo/done' page (thought of) allready? |
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| 10:08.51 | mnemoc | there is so much to do that is hard to make a list :| |
| 10:11.29 | oliv3r | well, there's two seperate things right? if not 3, u-boot, nand-boot and linux-kernel :) |
| 10:12.51 | mnemoc | the first two are the same thing |
| 10:13.49 | mnemoc | nand comes with a proprietary bootloader (boo0/boot1) which eventually we will replace |
| 10:13.59 | mysteryname | I can host a redmine for the A10 to create a todo list |
| 10:15.06 | mnemoc | thanks, but both have issue trackers on github already |
| 10:15.16 | mysteryname | Ah true |
| 10:18.02 | rm | mnemoc, what about merging next_mali |
| 10:18.24 | rm | will that be done and when? |
| 10:24.15 | mnemoc | i can't before there are working libs for linux and android... |
| 10:24.55 | mnemoc | assuming, obviusly, it works at least as "good" as the current |
| 10:26.51 | mnemoc | rm: it's mostly a decision that techn_ and rz2k will do, not me |
| 10:27.37 | mnemoc | s/do/take/ |
| 10:30.53 | oliv3r | do we know of any hardware using the A10 PWM? |
| 10:32.24 | mnemoc | afaik the axp209 (included in all devices) was specially designed for working with A1X, so I would say... all of them? |
| 10:32.52 | mnemoc | unless i'm misunderstanding the PWM term |
| 10:33.08 | RaYmAn | you're thinking of PMU :P |
| 10:33.24 | RaYmAn | PWM is Pulse-Width modulation usually.. |
| 10:33.29 | mnemoc | ah, ok |
| 10:34.10 | mnemoc | neat feature |
| 10:35.56 | mnemoc | the cubieboard has a pin called pwm-bl on the lcd segment, and the a13 olinuxino has one called pwm0 also in the lcd connector |
| 10:36.14 | RaYmAn | it's usually used for controlling backlight, yes |
| 10:36.31 | RaYmAn | or servos |
| 10:44.00 | oliv3r | they probably control brightness of the backlight using the PWM then |
| 10:44.19 | oliv3r | what is a good english technical term for 'does nothing, no effect' etc? |
| 10:44.28 | mnemoc | NOP? |
| 10:45.19 | mnemoc | "No Operation" |
| 10:45.35 | oliv3r | yes! that is good |
| 10:46.39 | oliv3r | I prefer noop and the full string :) but yes |
| 10:47.02 | mnemoc | NOP is assembly :p |
| 10:47.30 | lundman | best opcode ever! |
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| 11:04.54 | oliv3r | this one time, at computercamp, I designed an entire Exaflop supercomputer chip. it was super small and very power efficient. only catch was, you had to do everything with one op-code. noop. |
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| 11:12.19 | oliv3r | Help! :( |
| 11:16.59 | oliv3r | The datasheet mentions that each PWM is a dedicated internal 16bit up counter. The value to which it needs to count is stored in the PWM_CH0_PERIOD register. The PWM Channel0 period register is actually split up into 4 sections however 8bits for the active cycles (no idea what is ment there) which is odd, as it should be 16 bits? Then 8 unused bits. Followed by 8bits for something called 'entire cycles'. also again followed by 8 unused bits. Which is |
| 11:17.52 | oliv3r | also it is mentioned that the pulse-width depends on the period stored in the register at [0:15], so either there's a bug in the datasheet (likly) or I don't understand how a 16bit counter works (even more likly) |
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| 11:49.12 | oliv3r | don't go all silent on me :( |
| 12:10.02 | oliv3r | mnemoc: I may need a page rename again :) |
| 12:17.54 | oliv3r | I have created the A10/TIMER section. (Proofreading required! :D) but i'm a little puzzled still. The Timer register is actually split up into two parts, the first 512Bytes is for the Timers etc, while the second half is for the pwm |
| 12:18.42 | oliv3r | i've split them up as such in the register document, as it makes sense. what is the best way programatically, I don't know. E.g. reading/writing 4k pages, aligning at 1k for better reads, or using it as it is, at the 512Bytes marker. |
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| 13:01.43 | mnemoc | oliv3r: what do I rename? |
| 13:11.59 | oliv3r | if you agree, A10/TIMER -> A10/PWM |
| 13:13.10 | mnemoc | done |
| 13:13.19 | mnemoc | but there are links from the register page |
| 13:14.25 | oliv3r | yeah, I allready edited that page to point to them :) |
| 13:14.42 | oliv3r | but split timer/pwm or not? |
| 13:14.47 | oliv3r | do I* |
| 13:14.57 | oliv3r | the rename depends on that :) |
| 13:15.24 | mnemoc | sure |
| 13:40.53 | oliv3r | so anybody got an idea on the PWM thing i mentioned above? :) |
| 13:49.35 | mnemoc | not me |
| 13:49.53 | RaYmAn | I'd imagine it should be testable? |
| 13:50.36 | oliv3r | I don't have any A10 hardware :) |
| 13:50.41 | RaYmAn | ah |
| 13:52.10 | oliv3r | and there's only reference to the PWM in sunxi-4i.c i think in drivers/rtc on an old branch |
| 13:52.14 | oliv3r | but it remained unused |
| 14:19.56 | techn_ | oliv3r: check sun5i branch..and lcd changes |
| 14:20.28 | techn_ | or disp change commit |
| 14:26.52 | oliv3r | ah, intersting, will check there |
| 14:27.11 | oliv3r | it's not on hno's branch is it? |
| 14:27.15 | oliv3r | amery's branch? |
| 14:27.20 | oliv3r | repo* |
| 14:29.17 | techn_ | yes.. arery's repo |
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| 14:29.23 | techn_ | amery's |
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| 15:11.51 | jquip | Hallo there gentlemen :) ... A Question: I received an h6 netbook, which had a chainloaded uboot( linux.ini pointed to uboot, not kernel Image) And yet, it did not boot up when I put the sdcard, it did not boot to android either... That means the boot process has been rerouted right? I dont have a serial logger... I wonder how to debug this... |
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| 15:53.32 | RITRedbeard_ | Question: Does MK802/A10 downclock itself it isn't receiving sufficent power from USB or is this image of Puppy Linux just really buggy? |
| 15:59.21 | mnemoc | by default `ondemand` keeps A10 devices at 60MHz when idling |
| 16:01.23 | drachensun | hno: you had a hex dump from the AXP the other day, how did you get that? I'm trying i2cdump but I keep getting device busy. |
| 16:01.40 | drachensun | I can get a nice set of data from the gsensor though |
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| 16:21.01 | jelly | well, ondemand picks the lowest available freq; it doesn't mean that's the optimal for any specific hardware setup |
| 16:21.45 | mnemoc | the values on http://linux-sunxi.org/Cpufreq work quite well for me |
| 16:31.46 | Turl | hi mnemoc :) |
| 16:32.46 | drachensun | wow if you build without that AXP driver is just all kernel faults |
| 16:33.48 | Turl | mnemoc: have a look at https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/1e7105fcb1869de76a2e530d2bac6c21dee15574 when you get a chance |
| 16:36.41 | mnemoc | Turl: ML |
| 16:36.51 | Turl | mnemoc: and re. the failure to build, I used my old 'mele as server' defconfig + make oldconfig |
| 16:37.02 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 16:37.34 | Turl | mnemoc: https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/74c0cd3f992c480f33ffccf96fa157261e8c5317 here's the config if you want to play with it later |
| 16:37.50 | mnemoc | Turl: patch to the ML please, config to the ticket :) |
| 16:39.32 | mnemoc | Turl: thanks |
| 16:40.08 | Turl | mnemoc: how do you send patches to the ML The Right Way(TM)? |
| 16:40.21 | mnemoc | sure if it's nice or evil to have 3 devices dinging at the same time when a mail arrives "| |
| 16:40.24 | mnemoc | :| |
| 16:40.36 | Turl | :P |
| 16:40.36 | mnemoc | git format-patch + git send-email |
| 16:40.47 | mnemoc | s/sure/unsure/ |
| 16:43.28 | mnemoc | Turl: https://filetea.me/t1sc0bb2 <--- the .config I use on my mele and cubie |
| 16:43.59 | mnemoc | 3.4's |
| 16:44.32 | traeak | mnemoc: ahh, using a cubie more now? |
| 16:45.28 | mnemoc | traeak: not really.... pretty busy with $work$ at the moment :< |
| 16:46.38 | mnemoc | but I have xubuntu running there for the sake of it... and recompiled the kernel and tools a couple of times |
| 16:46.41 | mnemoc | nothing exciting |
| 16:47.22 | traeak | sure, well it's probably simpler than the mele i would gather...no wireless |
| 16:47.24 | traeak | anyawys |
| 16:47.32 | traeak | work is a bitch (and so are kids!) |
| 16:47.37 | mnemoc | :) |
| 16:48.22 | mnemoc | I use my laptop to share "internet" to an ethernet hub on my desk |
| 16:51.59 | mnemoc | so i prefer wired in general.... wifi setup kinds of sucks |
| 16:55.00 | traeak | at work here everything is wired |
| 16:55.15 | traeak | well laptop isn't it, i carry it around and plug stuff into it (usb) |
| 16:55.19 | traeak | at home everythign is wireless |
| 16:56.23 | mnemoc | have both worlds merged in the same room |
| 16:57.08 | mnemoc | half office, half bedroom |
| 16:57.17 | mnemoc | sucks too :-\ |
| 16:57.19 | traeak | ahh |
| 16:57.53 | traeak | one house we looked at directly adjoining the bedroom was an elevated room almost hte same size |
| 16:58.11 | traeak | would have been awesome for a family without little kids (older or teenagers) |
| 16:59.25 | traeak | i prefer an extra open area where the bedrooms are...place to do stuff in the lateevening/early morning |
| 17:00.44 | mnemoc | too |
| 17:06.17 | Turl | mnemoc: patch sent, got git send-email set up now :) |
| 17:06.54 | mnemoc | wiki wiki :) |
| 17:08.24 | Turl | it's too person-dependant a config :P you need an smtp server |
| 17:09.05 | mnemoc | :( |
| 17:09.39 | Turl | mnemoc: if you give me an URL I can write a couple of lines on how to go about getting it running anyways |
| 17:10.13 | mnemoc | /Sending_Patches ? |
| 17:10.53 | Turl | ok :) |
| 17:10.54 | mnemoc | OT: what does people use (on linux) to make models for custom cases? |
| 17:15.54 | cat1 | techn_: looking into include/linux/drv_display_sun4i.h at __disp_init_mode_t: what is SCREEN0/1 there? physical head? area in fb? I am trying to make some sense from comments, but fail, please help :) |
| 17:18.13 | techn_ | cat1: SCREEN0/1 loops are support for two heads and one framebuffer |
| 17:18.53 | cat1 | techn_: so it is simply area in video memory? |
| 17:18.59 | techn_ | SCREEN0/1 and "sel" defines different heads |
| 17:20.20 | cat1 | techn_: still do not get it. this is how i see it: |
| 17:20.20 | cat1 | 0 -- single head, screen0 |
| 17:20.20 | cat1 | 1 -- single head, screen1 |
| 17:20.20 | cat1 | 2 -- dual head, different screens (fb0, fb1) |
| 17:20.20 | cat1 | 3 -- dual head, cloned screen (fb0 up and fb1 down) |
| 17:20.20 | cat1 | 4 -- dual head, cloned screen (fb0 - normal, fb1 - scaled) |
| 17:21.57 | techn_ | I think it's part of control code.. "sel" 0/! defines register offset and SCREEN0/1 stuff controls which register is used |
| 17:22.46 | techn_ | I haven't looked how framebuffer memory itself maps into this |
| 17:23.06 | mnemoc | Turl: where did you send the patch? i don't see it |
| 17:23.20 | cat1 | techn_: ok, but what would be the end result in terms of seeing something of display |
| 17:23.24 | cat1 | s/of/on |
| 17:27.13 | Turl | mnemoc: dev@linux-sunxi.org |
| 17:27.29 | Turl | mnemoc: http://linux-sunxi.org/Sending_patches |
| 17:27.58 | cat1 | techn_: i mean that i can understand this that in case of dual head it would imply two screens seen on sepearate head, but in case you have this sort of mapping: fb0 --> screen0 or fb0 --> screen1 -- fail to imagine any practical result of it :) |
| 17:28.27 | cat1 | techn_: but it might be so that I somewhat overcomplicate my vision of all this.. |
| 17:28.35 | drachensun | just a heads up, I tried video mode 3 and 4 and there is some bug in the FB array initialization |
| 17:28.57 | drachensun | it initialzes buffer 0 then tries to initialize buffer -123012312312 |
| 17:28.58 | techn_ | mnemoc: has propably knowledge how framebuffer memory is mapped to display.. but it seems really complicated.. part of display chain is display(hdmi/lcd/tv/vga), mali, g2d(on a10), FE(scaler), BE(colorspace converter), layers and framebuffer |
| 17:29.13 | drachensun | so its corrupting the pointer somewhere |
| 17:30.01 | hno | drachensun, I used a logic probe on the i2c bus. |
| 17:30.11 | drachensun | ahhh |
| 17:30.28 | drachensun | I figured out the kernel power driver is talking to the AXP |
| 17:30.39 | drachensun | and bumping me out of the way, and I cant boot without it |
| 17:30.42 | techn_ | cat1: + I'm propably even missing some stuff on that chain :p |
| 17:31.01 | Turl | mnemoc: maybe it's stuck on moderation? |
| 17:31.06 | drachensun | so I figured it out it does have a GPIO interface like I really wanted in the first place but I can't seem to get good values out of it |
| 17:31.21 | mnemoc | Turl: nope |
| 17:32.53 | techn_ | cat1: I'll check if I can find how fb memory is mapped.. but first idea is that memory is mapped to layers which are runned through BE and FE, which propably are some hardware accelerators for mali 2d |
| 17:32.59 | Turl | mnemoc: want me to resend without the alias? :| |
| 17:33.21 | mnemoc | try to send it to your own alias |
| 17:33.26 | mnemoc | to see if it works |
| 17:33.42 | Turl | mnemoc: the sending did take place because I cc'd another email of mine on tuxfamily and it arrived just fine |
| 17:34.23 | mnemoc | ok, let's wait then |
| 17:34.25 | cat1 | techn_: ok, but what actually confuses me is that they opeare with SCREEN definition in terms of Xorg. but who promised that it is going to be easy, heh.. |
| 17:34.35 | hno | drachensun, kernel should boot without AXP provided it's configured by the bootloader. u-boot don't yet but the allwinner bootloader do. |
| 17:35.20 | techn_ | cat1: so you are testing Xorgs dual head? |
| 17:35.44 | techn_ | cat1: Does it operate/need two framebuffers or just one |
| 17:36.03 | hno | it's still a mystery how u-boot SPL can work on mele v1.3 without kernel crash at boot. |
| 17:36.36 | drachensun | hno: it boots it just gets an endless string of kernel null point errors afterward, I think something ELSE in the kernel is hardcoded for it to be there even if removed in config. I'm not sure though, it was so many dumps I couldn't save it and see the original errors. |
| 17:36.44 | cat1 | techn_: nope, i am trying to start writing disp_core module that would provide infra for others, no real testing. |
| 17:37.36 | drachensun | techn_: Im interested in having that, but like I said my first attempts ran into an init error, do you want the log from it? |
| 17:37.58 | drachensun | techn_: I'm willing to help test, I've got a tablet with hdmi out and LCD and I would like to have both at the same time |
| 17:39.28 | cat1 | drachensun: curious what tablet you have. i probably need to order something similar as i am too interested in the same stuff :) |
| 17:39.44 | techn_ | drachensun: I'm currently implementing EDID support.. while waiting mali libs to get gles2 for X.. but dual head stuff is on the list ;) |
| 17:41.54 | drachensun | cat1: Its a generic one, I import this stuff directly, I'm willing to sell it at cost if you are in the US since its for development. |
| 17:42.43 | cat1 | drachensun: nope, i am on the other end of the world, and just a bit up north :) |
| 17:43.29 | hno | drachensun, did not see any such hardcoding when doing my minimal linux-3.3 branch long ago. |
| 17:43.49 | hno | how are you booting? |
| 17:43.57 | drachensun | SD card |
| 17:44.10 | hno | using which u-boot version? |
| 17:44.11 | drachensun | with my older version of you sunxi branch |
| 17:44.21 | drachensun | I'm basically just before the dram changes now |
| 17:44.47 | hno | then all bets are off with no pmu support in kernel. should not work. |
| 17:45.28 | drachensun | gotcha |
| 17:45.56 | hno | as i said it's still a mysery why thar spl versin at all works on mele c1.3 hardware. should crash, and do crash on many other boards. |
| 17:46.09 | hno | s/c1/v1/ |
| 17:47.06 | gzamboni | hno meant: mystery |
| 17:47.06 | hno | a method that should work is to boot u-boot from nand, insert the sdcard and ask u-boot to reboot. |
| 17:47.13 | hno | yes |
| 17:47.44 | techn_ | drachensun: "p, I tried video mode 3 and 4 and there is some bug in the FB array initialization" whats that? :p |
| 17:48.38 | drachensun | its more a curiosity now, I figured out my tablet buttons feed through the AXP chip so first I wanted direct i2c access but the driver makes them available |
| 17:48.51 | drachensun | so now I just have to figure out if I am using it wrong or it needs a patch |
| 17:49.04 | Turl | hm |
| 17:49.09 | Turl | where's wemac on 3.4? |
| 17:49.42 | Turl | nvm found it |
| 17:49.49 | drachensun | cat1: gotcha, its probably cheaper shipping to buy direct on aliexpress or something but I don't know who sells them in small volumes, I couldn't find them that way last time I looked |
| 17:51.20 | drachensun | techn_: I tried the dual monitor thing before, mode 3 and 4 and it was crashing. Its specific to those modes because its starts running a loop to initial all the buffers and screws up the pointer after the first one. I didn't dig any farther than that |
| 17:51.57 | techn_ | drachensun: when? :) |
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| 17:53.37 | drachensun | techn_: looking through my log captures now.... |
| 17:54.35 | techn_ | drachensun: I'm asking becouse today came patch which could have some effect to it |
| 17:57.06 | drachensun | techn_: Ok, it was last week sometime, I'll try that since I can't seem to find the log anyway |
| 18:02.12 | drachensun | techn_: Are they in allwinner-v3.0-android-v2? |
| 18:04.27 | techn_ | drachensun: yes |
| 18:12.10 | drachensun | hno: So you were saying you weren't sure why it could boot without PMU settings. So does that mean you added PMU configuration along with the DRAM changes? |
| 18:12.54 | techn_ | cat1: yes.. framebuffer memory pointer it goes to colorspace converter first.. dunno how it goes from there.. |
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| 18:22.13 | hno | drachensun, the current SPL keeps the CPU running at lower speed matching the default voltage levels for both CPU and DRAM. |
| 18:22.53 | hno | when PMU support have been added which is not far away now then clocks will be trimmed up again to full speed. |
| 18:27.02 | drachensun | ok, I was hoping I had another lead for why mine isn't booting. I'll probably dig into that next week. |
| 18:28.17 | hno | mostly focusing on A13 until I get PMU in shape, as that's the board I have a good debugging setup running for. |
| 18:30.42 | hno | so it's quite possible there is issues for A10 at the moment. |
| 18:32.14 | drachensun | techn_: That one crashes too at BSP_disp_get_screen_width |
| 18:34.13 | drachensun | Here is the log if you are interested: http://pastebin.com/9BmQKkAf |
| 18:45.00 | techn_ | drachensun: thanks for testing.. I'll put that behind my ear ;) |
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| 19:04.11 | cat1 | mnemoc: do you like sx_ prefix? i am planning to use it sunxi structures. |
| 19:05.57 | mnemoc | nothing against, should probably be discussed in the ML, but they already use "sw" |
| 19:06.39 | cat1 | mnemoc: what it stands for? |
| 19:06.45 | mnemoc | softwinner |
| 19:07.04 | cat1 | mnemoc: ah, ok, makes sense to keep in sync then |
| 19:07.47 | mnemoc | no clue what softwinner is legally speaking, but the pre-GPL headers used it as (C) holder |
| 19:08.19 | cat1 | hmm.. |
| 19:08.31 | cat1 | back to sx_ then :D |
| 19:08.43 | cat1 | i feel it needs to be short |
| 19:15.44 | mnemoc | self-convinced that short is good? :) |
| 19:17.46 | Turl | just don't go and short all the things to "sx_fb_d" style :P |
| 19:18.20 | RaYmAn | thinks sunxi is more clear |
| 19:19.02 | RaYmAn | In my experience, you almost always regret two-letter abbreviations at some point in the future :P |
| 19:21.00 | techn_ | sunxi_framebuffer_display_pointer against sx_fb_d_p.. or somewhere middle ;) |
| 19:21.15 | RaYmAn | sunxi_fb_display_ptr :D |
| 19:21.33 | RaYmAn | fb and ptr are pretty standard abbreviations ;) |
| 19:24.18 | mnemoc | +1 for sunxi_ |
| 19:29.37 | cat1 | ok, s/sx_/sunxi_/g |
| 19:31.18 | mnemoc | sunxi_ has the same length than omap4_ and friends |
| 19:32.55 | rz2k | mnemoc: I believe softwinner is prefixes for stuff before SoChip/BoxChip and Allwinner detached from each other |
| 19:33.14 | rz2k | meaning boxchip sold the silicon, softwinner wrote... soft. |
| 19:34.25 | mnemoc | rz2k: uh. it seems you have the right knowledge to http://linux-sunxi.org/Allwinner#History :) |
| 19:34.43 | mnemoc | i had they idea those were just renames... |
| 19:35.20 | rz2k | no, I cant count my thoughts as right knowledge without sources that prove them. :) |
| 19:36.32 | mnemoc | http://linux-sunxi.org/User:Osbornehede .... interesting way of spamming |
| 19:59.04 | hno | mnemoc, http://linux-sunxi.org/index.php?title=User:Osbornehede&action=info |
| 19:59.41 | mnemoc | uh |
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| 20:00.13 | jelly-home | heh, undercovered |
| 20:01.47 | hno | mnemoc, that was subtle spam indeed. |
| 20:02.22 | hno | probably SEO tacticts. |
| 20:02.46 | mnemoc | yes |
| 20:03.29 | mnemoc | "greeting, this is me, and this is my homepage *puff* spam link" |
| 20:04.42 | hno | "Got nothing to say about me really.<br>Hurrey Im here and a member of this community.<br>I really hope I am useful in some way here.<br><br>My web-site: [****** Aktueller Strompreis]" |
| 20:05.45 | hno | Next time they pick something sensible as link description as well. |
| 20:05.57 | mnemoc | i only reacted after seeing the "billiger" word in the url |
| 20:09.33 | hno | Confused. That is a link to a spam in a blog. Ah, the link makes the page public. It's otherwise not reachable (held for moderation). |
| 20:09.47 | mnemoc | rz2k: thank you for the replies :) |
| 20:10.12 | rz2k | I've wrote him to post in english, he seems to have problems with writing on it, so he saw a russian name and wrote on russian. |
| 20:10.12 | hno | so pure SEO tacticts to make search engines find the page. |
| 20:10.55 | hno | prefer russian over silence. |
| 20:11.28 | mnemoc | rz2k: but if everyone starts writting in their own language communication would be far worse than if bad english is used |
| 20:11.34 | mnemoc | hno: true |
| 20:11.36 | rz2k | yeah |
| 20:13.23 | rz2k | good night. |
| 20:17.42 | mnemoc | good night rz2k |
| 20:46.56 | cat1 | maybe i have asked already, but do we have fix for this: |
| 20:46.57 | cat1 | make[4]: *** [drivers/net/wireless/rtl8192cu/os_dep/osdep_service.o] Error 1 |
| 20:46.57 | cat1 | it is linux-sunxi-3.4 branch and related to wakelocks stuff. |
| 20:47.28 | mnemoc | yes, disable it :) |
| 20:47.53 | cat1 | mnemoc: so we do not have wlan working in 3.4? |
| 20:48.06 | mnemoc | mainline's ? :< |
| 20:48.21 | cat1 | i remember some problems with that as well |
| 20:48.32 | cat1 | 3.6 looks better from this pov |
| 20:49.04 | mnemoc | http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/1249726 |
| 20:49.28 | mnemoc | wakelocks seem to have been mainlined on 3.4 ... but sigthly modified |
| 20:49.37 | mnemoc | so we need to adapt the driver |
| 20:50.21 | cat1 | or forget allwinners implementation. though it works in 3.6 at least. |
| 20:50.39 | cat1 | i decided to stick with 3.4 for now, too lazy to merge newly arrived patches from you guys :) |
| 20:50.47 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 21:45.30 | alcides | http://www.muktware.com/4485/samsung-creates-new-file-system-f2fs-linux-good-news-android#.UG9UfU1cEht |
| 21:53.17 | hno | alcides, interesting. |
| 21:57.55 | mnemoc | looks nice |
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| 22:12.24 | cat1 | mnemoc: shall we take it in already? ;) |
| 22:14.36 | cat1 | yawns |
| 22:14.44 | mnemoc | not sure if it's a good idea to import more stuff into our tree |
| 22:17.34 | cat1 | mnemoc: i was kind of kidding. it should be other way around.. anyway, i think it is just right time to get some sleep. |
| 22:25.06 | mnemoc | cat1: :) |
| 22:25.08 | mnemoc | good night |
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| 23:34.22 | rm | any good howto on cross-compiling an armhf kernel on debian amd64? |
| 23:34.46 | rm | the emdebian repo does not seem to have armhf cross-tools |
| 23:38.52 | rm | I think I saw one recently, but don't remember where, was it cnx-software or one of the wikis... |