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| 02:39.59 | Turl | \o |
| 02:40.05 | Turl | what did I miss this weekend |
| 02:40.07 | Turl | ? |
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| 04:46.10 | Turl | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE5Mjk might be cool for cedarx |
| 04:47.07 | lundman | ok, finally got an OS back on mele, to test empat0 |
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| 08:51.08 | akaizen | http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Yuandao-N101-10-1-tablet-pc-Window-Rockchip-dual-core-1-5GHz-Android-4-0-1280x800/590619081.html |
| 08:51.25 | akaizen | 10.1" IPS 32GB RK3306 + 4x MALI400 tablet |
| 08:51.36 | akaizen | **RK3066 |
| 08:52.09 | lundman | heh |
| 09:17.14 | cat1 | still too much expensive, i'd rather wait for a couple of months ;) |
| 09:17.41 | Mazon | with imx6 around the corner ... |
| 09:17.55 | mnemoc | die RK die |
| 09:19.22 | jelly | wow, prices of A10 sticks really have dropped http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale/wholesale-allwinner.html?SearchText=allwinner&CatId=0&manual=y&SortType=price_asc&SortType=y&filterCat=100005062,70803003,200003868 |
| 09:20.28 | cat1 | jelly isn't this amazing development? |
| 09:23.16 | cat1 | i wonder what i am doing wrong: |
| 09:23.16 | cat1 | [ 181.807] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0 |
| 09:23.16 | cat1 | [ 181.807] drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device) |
| 09:23.16 | cat1 | [ 181.807] drmOpenDevice: Open failed |
| 09:23.16 | cat1 | ... |
| 09:23.17 | cat1 | same for card[1..15] |
| 09:31.42 | cat1 | must be something that has to do with commit c8c9ae7ef2bec34dc529bba763f36e8d3b1b4266 in next_mali.. gotta check.. |
| 09:49.57 | cat1 | indeed, that was it.. |
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| 11:11.43 | cat1 | [ 688.450000] UMP<1>: Failed to allocate needed pages |
| 11:11.43 | cat1 | [ 688.560000] UMP<1>: _ump_ukk_allocate() failed in ump_ioctl_allocate() |
| 11:11.43 | cat1 | is thisp problem fixed in some branch? |
| 11:14.27 | mnemoc | cat1: there is a next_mali branch, and some patches from techn and rz2k.... but it's still a jungle |
| 11:14.49 | akaizen | cat1: Apparently if you buy 300 , they are ~$20/ea http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10-inch-Yuandao-N101-Android-4-0-rk3066-dual-core-1-6GHz-32GB-Dual-Camera-Bluetooth/646443349.html |
| 11:15.39 | mnemoc | akaizen: but still an evil-rockchip device |
| 11:16.29 | akaizen | mnemoc: true, can you extract needed files from android ROM? |
| 11:16.43 | rm | this is a scam |
| 11:16.49 | mnemoc | akaizen: to build your own android rom, maybe |
| 11:16.54 | mnemoc | akaizen: to run linux, no |
| 11:16.57 | rm | the seller has no feedback |
| 11:17.25 | akaizen | rm: thats what a couple people said, but aliexpress / alibaba has a guarantee that you wont get scammed |
| 11:17.59 | mnemoc | they don't release the money to the seller until you are happy |
| 11:18.03 | rm | indeed, but maybe they are trying because they know of some way |
| 11:18.18 | mysteryname | They're way too cheap to be legitimate... akaizen: there is the escrow service, however it'll be a long wait till anything happens. |
| 11:18.25 | akaizen | mnemoc: hmmm i thought android 4.x + merged with mainline kernel, so necessary kernel modules cant be use in regular linux? |
| 11:19.02 | mysteryname | They could have a really short "acceptance" time and it might be automatically verified. I know Tom cubie had 15 days till shipping. |
| 11:19.08 | mnemoc | akaizen: you can't extract kernel sources from a blob ;-) |
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| 11:19.42 | akaizen | oh, you expect that its baked into the kernel blob |
| 11:20.04 | akaizen | some android (my HTC phone) has modules but its also very old (2+ yrs) |
| 11:20.23 | akaizen | guess ill have to get my hands on a rockchip image and see |
| 11:20.44 | mnemoc | rk is a wellknown gpl violator |
| 11:20.49 | akaizen | Or wait for Allwinner to release a 28nm Dual / Quad A9 |
| 11:21.23 | mnemoc | from what i've read the next from allwinner will be a quad cortex-a7, not a9 |
| 11:21.23 | RaYmAn | which will ne roughly just as bad wrt gpl violations |
| 11:21.24 | RaYmAn | :/ |
| 11:21.31 | akaizen | All of China seems to be a GPL violator ;/ |
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| 11:21.50 | RaYmAn | Probably because it's unrealistic to pursue the GPL violations *sigh* |
| 11:22.10 | RaYmAn | I wonder if it would change anything if people went all-out on resellers wrt GPL |
| 11:22.11 | mnemoc | gpl is only honored by those who want to honor it |
| 11:22.15 | akaizen | And according to RMS: you either violate GPL or don't no 'degrees' |
| 11:22.48 | akaizen | Well GNU just needs a bunch of lawyers on retainer |
| 11:22.50 | RaYmAn | akaizen: it's still almost impossible to pursue it in china - from what I hear anyways |
| 11:23.04 | akaizen | can you image if FSF had as many lawyers as Apple lol |
| 11:23.08 | akaizen | imagine** |
| 11:23.22 | mnemoc | afaik tom shipped the rest of the cubieboards with a buildroot based system built from the open sources |
| 11:23.33 | RaYmAn | cool :) |
| 11:23.39 | mnemoc | except mine :< |
| 11:23.41 | akaizen | Tom used to work for Allwinner right? |
| 11:23.45 | mnemoc | akaizen: yes |
| 11:23.55 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: I'm sure you can get a copy though ;) |
| 11:24.09 | akaizen | So he re-implemented necessary parts for OSS version of system? |
| 11:24.44 | akaizen | mnemoc: Is he a hardware guy? |
| 11:24.49 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: I'm stuck on 2 options. 1) wait until hno gets uboot working there, 2) wait until tom revives and send me a dd-able phoenixcard installer |
| 11:24.50 | mysteryname | "used to work" so he left to make his own boards? |
| 11:25.10 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: u-boot fails? :S |
| 11:25.12 | lundman | hmm |
| 11:25.29 | mnemoc | akaizen: tom was working on the bootloader and then on the smp stuff for sun6i |
| 11:25.44 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: at least on the 1GB model it does |
| 11:25.55 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: gets hung after SPL |
| 11:25.57 | RaYmAn | meh |
| 11:26.32 | RaYmAn | did you dump boot0/boot1 to compare memory params? |
| 11:26.40 | mnemoc | mysteryname: he claimed family reasons. i believe he is moving to a different city |
| 11:27.02 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: if you tell me how to get boot0/boot1 using fel... |
| 11:27.38 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: oh, I thought you had jtag.. |
| 11:28.00 | mnemoc | i have the adapter, but my flyswatter is dead |
| 11:28.06 | RaYmAn | ah :/ |
| 11:28.08 | mysteryname | mnemoc: I see, so what is his current involvement in the A10 chips from the point he moves? |
| 11:28.33 | RaYmAn | presumably none since he quit his job? :P |
| 11:28.57 | mnemoc | iirc some of his former coworkers are also $involved$ in the cubieboard |
| 11:29.03 | mnemoc | but they don't speak english |
| 11:29.12 | mysteryname | presumably, he does seem very invested in the product with the cubie board. |
| 11:32.02 | akaizen | know of any info on how to get to kernel on all these ARM devices? from my understanding uboot -> sdcard -> kernel |
| 11:32.49 | RaYmAn | it's actually sdcard (uboot-spl) -> u-boot -> kernel |
| 11:32.54 | akaizen | I feel like I need to learn more about this uboot and loading the kernel and kernel mods |
| 11:33.02 | RaYmAn | or nand boot0 -> nand boot1 -> nand u-boot -> kernel |
| 11:33.30 | akaizen | Hrmm... let me recheck the boot flow chart from the A10 pdf |
| 11:34.19 | RaYmAn | bootrom decides whether to boot from sd or nand |
| 11:34.56 | akaizen | RaYmAn: Yup you are right SDC0 -> NAND -> NFC -> SDC2 -> SPIO -> SPI |
| 11:35.25 | akaizen | Is bootrom rewritable? |
| 11:35.44 | RaYmAn | no |
| 11:36.01 | akaizen | Part of the chip? or external ROM module? |
| 11:36.24 | RaYmAn | afaik part of the SoC chip |
| 11:38.08 | akaizen | So bootrom ~ BIOS and uboot ~ bootloader? |
| 11:38.25 | RaYmAn | pretty much |
| 11:38.43 | RaYmAn | and then there's an intermediary pre-bootloader bootloader :P |
| 11:38.52 | mnemoc | bios usually does dram initializion, in our case spl does that |
| 11:38.53 | RaYmAn | e.g. one that runs in SRAM and initialized external ram |
| 11:39.49 | akaizen | spl? |
| 11:41.12 | RaYmAn | ~ second program loader |
| 11:41.42 | mnemoc | brom -> u-boot-spl -> u-boot -> linux |
| 11:42.00 | mnemoc | when booting from the sd card |
| 11:42.51 | akaizen | RaYmAn: mnemoc: cool, got it |
| 11:43.01 | akaizen | How did you guys figure all this out? |
| 11:43.34 | mnemoc | the brom pokes around to see from where to boot, and also include the usb hardcode recovery method known as FEL |
| 11:44.25 | mnemoc | tom blessed us with a an small wiki document and a working u-boot mmc branch |
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| 11:45.01 | mnemoc | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_boot_process/ |
| 11:45.03 | akaizen | ah ok, so there were no oscilloscope, probes and logic tracing? |
| 11:45.18 | mnemoc | nope |
| 11:45.40 | mnemoc | but current u-boot work involves a lot of jtag |
| 11:46.11 | mnemoc | because tom's uboot-mmc had everything hardcoded and that limited it's usage across sunxi devices |
| 11:46.55 | mnemoc | akaizen: do you want to import that knowledge from the RT wiki into linux-sunxi's? :) |
| 11:47.45 | akaizen | Sure, I got the templates for boards and SoC working last night |
| 11:47.58 | akaizen | but then I decided to reorganize the info in a better way |
| 11:48.04 | mnemoc | :) |
| 11:58.24 | akaizen | off to sleep |
| 11:58.36 | akaizen | more wiki and boot stuff later |
| 12:00.18 | mnemoc | :) |
| 12:00.21 | mnemoc | good night akaizen |
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| 12:08.56 | Quinto | hi i have imx53 QSB with Linux, i have modified my mx53_loco.c for set SD2 pin for to use a wireless module but i have some problem, who help me? |
| 12:11.21 | zoobab_ | hi |
| 12:11.42 | zoobab_ | I am trying to upgrade a MiniX with this: |
| 12:11.43 | zoobab_ | root@buzek /home/zoobab/mt/projects/minix/a10-tools [31]# ./a1x-media-create.sh /dev/mmcblk0 mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.06.13.7z linaro-precise-ubuntu-desktop-20120524-177.tar.gz |
| 12:12.03 | zoobab_ | the "Extracting HW Pack mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.06.13.7z" takes forever |
| 12:12.05 | zoobab_ | any idea? |
| 12:13.19 | mnemoc | search for "Extracting HW Pack" within the script and add `set -x` right after it |
| 12:13.26 | zoobab_ | I already did that |
| 12:13.34 | zoobab_ | I added set -e set -x |
| 12:13.41 | zoobab_ | still hangs over there |
| 12:14.10 | mnemoc | `set -x` .... you don't want to impose a `set -e` there |
| 12:14.30 | mnemoc | and then see what is the real command that gets stuck |
| 12:14.34 | zoobab_ | + mkdir -p hwpack |
| 12:14.35 | zoobab_ | + pushd hwpack |
| 12:14.35 | zoobab_ | ~/mt/projects/minix/a10-tools/hwpack ~/mt/projects/minix/a10-tools |
| 12:14.35 | zoobab_ | + 7z x ../mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.06.13.7z |
| 12:14.38 | mnemoc | or if it's trapped on a loop |
| 12:14.42 | zoobab_ | there it runs for 2 hours now |
| 12:14.51 | zoobab_ | maybe the SD card is too small with 2GB? |
| 12:14.51 | mnemoc | uh |
| 12:15.05 | mnemoc | hwpacks are small |
| 12:15.14 | zoobab_ | will try by hand |
| 12:15.19 | mnemoc | abort and try to run that by hand |
| 12:15.22 | mnemoc | yes |
| 12:17.13 | zoobab_ | ah it logs into the logfile |
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| 12:20.38 | zoobab_ | I found the bug |
| 12:20.45 | zoobab_ | Processing archive: ../mele-a1000_hwpack_2012.06.13.7z |
| 12:20.45 | zoobab_ | file rootfs/lib/modules/3.0.31+/build |
| 12:20.45 | zoobab_ | already exists. Overwrite with |
| 12:20.45 | zoobab_ | rootfs/lib/modules/3.0.31+/build? |
| 12:20.45 | zoobab_ | (Y)es / (N)o / (A)lways / (S)kip all / A(u)to rename all / (Q)uit? |
| 12:20.59 | zoobab_ | and with the output the a log file it was not showing this |
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| 12:31.22 | zoobab_ | ================================================================ |
| 12:31.22 | zoobab_ | Copy U-Boot SPL to SD Card |
| 12:31.22 | zoobab_ | ================================================================ |
| 12:31.22 | zoobab_ | dd: opening `hwpack/bootloader/sunxi-spl.bin': No such file or directory |
| 12:31.31 | zoobab_ | where do I find this file? |
| 12:31.43 | lundman | 19th |
| 12:31.45 | mnemoc | i seems your hwpack is broken |
| 12:31.59 | lundman | hwpack has been non working since 19th |
| 12:32.00 | zoobab_ | sun4i-spl.bin |
| 12:32.21 | mnemoc | zoobab_: get http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/nightly/2012.09.26/ |
| 12:33.29 | mnemoc | zoobab_: lot of things have changed since 2012.06.13 |
| 12:33.42 | mnemoc | zoobab_: so you need a newer pack |
| 12:33.56 | mnemoc | as lundman mentioned since 19th they were broken |
| 12:34.01 | mnemoc | but the latest is fixed |
| 12:34.18 | lundman | only discovered today as I tried to get them :) |
| 12:34.29 | lundman | not that I could get it to work, so got miniand again |
| 12:34.57 | mnemoc | 2012.09.25 is emptyish |
| 12:35.02 | mnemoc | 2012.09.26 seems fine |
| 12:35.11 | zoobab_ | for the minix, should I take the hwpack of mele or the mk802? |
| 12:36.08 | mnemoc | in either case you'll need to copy the miniX's script.bin |
| 12:36.16 | zoobab_ | ah |
| 12:36.23 | zoobab_ | where is it? |
| 12:36.35 | mnemoc | in the nanda of your device |
| 12:36.50 | zoobab_ | how do I access it? |
| 12:37.09 | mnemoc | mount it, tar it, export it |
| 12:37.20 | zoobab_ | I can mount it in USB? |
| 12:37.47 | mnemoc | you can copy it into usb |
| 12:38.08 | zoobab_ | ah with the file manager |
| 12:38.25 | zoobab_ | there is USB OTG, but I need a special usb cable for that I think |
| 12:38.29 | mnemoc | nanda isn't normally mounted, so you need a shell prompt first |
| 12:38.52 | mnemoc | assuming android, use adb shell to mount /dev/block/nanda |
| 12:39.06 | mnemoc | then you can `adb pull` the files |
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| 13:10.31 | mnemoc | zoobab_: if you can tar all the files in the nanda, I can then add it to the stock-bin-archive so next time people can find it there |
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| 13:33.40 | penguin42 | http://www.embedded.com/electronics-products/electronic-product-reviews/prototyping-and-development/4397115/Sitara-AM335x-ARM-Cortex-A8-Starter-Kit-jumpstarts-development interesting dev board, slow A*, 2GB ram though, and 2x2GB ether |
| 13:33.48 | penguin42 | A8 that should be |
| 13:35.08 | mnemoc | afaik those sitara are for industrial applications, not fancy CE |
| 13:35.19 | penguin42 | nod |
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| 13:44.37 | Yakuzzi | did someone see this box before ? |
| 13:44.38 | Yakuzzi | http://www.ebay.de/itm/290780112052?nma=true&si=duiEafpEORHdl%2F7PeX%2BK5EBjeCM%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true |
| 13:45.45 | phh | penguin42: 2Gb |
| 13:45.47 | phh | not 2GB. |
| 13:46.33 | mnemoc | nice catch |
| 13:46.39 | phh | well i'm suprised AM335x is capable of 2x Ethernet and DDR3 |
| 13:47.00 | phh | so it could actually be just a typo |
| 13:47.18 | penguin42 | phh: Oh yes! The ti page actually says 256MB |
| 13:47.20 | phh | 256MB DDR3 on TI's site .. |
| 13:47.21 | phh | yeah |
| 13:47.34 | penguin42 | Yakuzzi: Heck that's cheap |
| 13:49.26 | mnemoc | but it's sold out :< |
| 13:49.39 | rm | Yakuzzi, looks totally awesome |
| 13:49.51 | penguin42 | only thing it's missing is the SATA port |
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| 13:50.29 | Yakuzzi | and it got 1gb memory, my mele only 512 |
| 13:51.12 | rm | http://www.ebay.com/itm/290780112051 |
| 13:51.16 | rm | here's what he still has in stock |
| 13:51.28 | cat1 | mnemoc: do i read your last comment as this: "yes, we'd rather keep these as cmdline params"? sorry for being slow though.. |
| 13:52.02 | rm | 512 MB RAM :/ |
| 13:52.28 | mnemoc | cat1: no problem. i expressed myself badly |
| 13:53.52 | penguin42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:54.25 | RaYmAn | not really - a lot of ebay has that restriction because apparently italy customs are horrific |
| 13:54.28 | cat1 | mnemoc: and the answer is?.. ;) |
| 13:54.33 | mnemoc | penguin42: unless you have lived in italy ;-) |
| 13:54.51 | rm | poor italians |
| 13:54.54 | penguin42 | RaYmAn: Ah |
| 13:54.58 | mnemoc | penguin42: packages have an strong tendency to get stolen |
| 13:55.26 | mnemoc | penguin42: or simply trashed to avoid the hassle of delivering them |
| 13:56.46 | mnemoc | cat1: i rather keep those as cmdline params, BUT been careful about what the values they can take... which is basically default or 0 |
| 13:57.01 | mnemoc | cat1: and I hate the prefix with all my guts :< |
| 13:57.13 | cat1 | mnemoc: which one, sunxi? |
| 13:57.18 | mnemoc | yes |
| 13:58.01 | cat1 | mnemoc: but how would you distinguish with other fbmem variants if any? |
| 13:58.01 | mnemoc | there is no way it could be confused with other driver as it's a platform thing |
| 13:58.09 | cat1 | mnemoc: ok |
| 13:58.12 | mnemoc | i mean |
| 13:58.53 | mnemoc | in a perfect multiplatform world, yes, we need prefixing |
| 13:59.39 | mnemoc | but... i don't know |
| 13:59.55 | mnemoc | in that perfect multiplatform world the prefix would be the driver name |
| 14:00.53 | cat1 | mnemoc: will keep them as you suggested for now.. just wonder if i need to come up with patch on top of patch or just patch, the latter will cost me force update on remote side :) |
| 14:01.53 | mnemoc | there is only one working copy involved |
| 14:02.40 | mnemoc | so I would prefer to get the fix squashed :p |
| 14:03.10 | mnemoc | also, you made this for your 3.6, while I'm going to merge them into 3.4 |
| 14:03.24 | cat1 | mnemoc: true |
| 14:03.49 | Yakuzzi | i wonder if the offers of that guy are for real, this looks too good to be true |
| 14:03.51 | Yakuzzi | http://www.ebay.com/itm/Smart-Mini-A10-Android-4-0-ROM-4GB-Google-TV-Box-Companion-Logitech-Keyboard-/290780112053?pt=US_Internet_Media_Streamers&hash=item43b3d864b5 |
| 14:04.09 | Yakuzzi | not that i need the box but the keyboard costs the same as the box usually |
| 14:05.11 | rm | 99.2% Positive feedback |
| 14:05.13 | rm | legit |
| 14:08.11 | rm | but yeah |
| 14:08.21 | rm | this keyboard alone is worth a lot |
| 14:09.47 | rm | Yakuzzi, do you recognize which keyboard model is that? |
| 14:10.13 | Yakuzzi | http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040QE998/sr=1-4/qid=1348668288/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1348668288&seller=&sr=1-4 |
| 14:10.40 | rm | AA batteries |
| 14:10.41 | rm | perfect |
| 14:10.42 | Yakuzzi | think this one, really thinking about it, and it got a unifying adapter if it´s this |
| 14:11.30 | Yakuzzi | i want the other box with this keyboard :P |
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| 14:28.30 | VarmVaffel | anyone know of any good free TFTP servers for windows? |
| 14:29.12 | mnemoc | for what? |
| 14:30.19 | popolon | :)) |
| 14:30.48 | popolon | windows have only glass, wood or plastic and a handler |
| 14:31.01 | popolon | no network connection for tftp service |
| 14:31.38 | popolon | FoWtp (file over Window protocol ?) |
| 14:32.47 | mnemoc | i suppose one can glue an small arm board with wifi to a window and use it a tftp server, but sounds like a weird choice |
| 14:37.26 | VarmVaffel | jesus :P |
| 14:39.25 | VarmVaffel | how about for linux then |
| 14:40.37 | mnemoc | tftp-hpa |
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| 14:53.55 | Yakuzzi | did anyone yet try a gigabit to usb 2 adapter and knows how much is possible on his device of the theoretical 480mbit |
| 14:54.27 | Yakuzzi | talking of a10 devices |
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| 17:27.17 | vinifr | have someone IBIS model of A13? |
| 17:29.31 | mnemoc | you would need to contact allwinner for that |
| 17:48.10 | popolon | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2ono28J_Yk&feature=relmfu |
| 17:48.17 | popolon | blender on galaxy tab |
| 17:48.35 | popolon | in fact blenderplayer need to be removed before install the good file ? |
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| 18:59.49 | vinifr | where i could find the map gpio to a13? |
| 19:02.15 | mnemoc | http://linux-sunxi.org/A13/PIO <--- wip |
| 19:02.54 | mnemoc | info comes from http://linux-sunxi.org/images/e/eb/A13_Datasheet.pdf and the a13-olinuxino's datasheet |
| 19:02.59 | mnemoc | schematics |
| 19:03.09 | mnemoc | because the datasheet is likely to have mistakes |
| 19:04.32 | vinifr | sorry, i mean the address map, like: "#define GPIOAOUT 0x1060" |
| 19:04.54 | mnemoc | afaik there is no such thing |
| 19:05.32 | mnemoc | GPIOs in allwinner's kernel are configured by script.bin, |
| 19:06.54 | mnemoc | using port notation, not a number |
| 19:07.57 | vinifr | so, could i use: "gpio_set_value(103, 1);" |
| 19:08.05 | mnemoc | you can't |
| 19:08.47 | vinifr | PB2103I/OPWM |
| 19:10.08 | mnemoc | and? |
| 19:10.27 | vinifr | so, could i use: "gpio_set_value(PB2, 1);"? |
| 19:10.33 | mnemoc | no, you can't |
| 19:10.45 | mnemoc | until the core of the allwinner kernel is entirely rewritten |
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| 19:11.59 | mnemoc | what you can do is to enable the sun4i-gpio driver and pre-configure the pins in script.bin |
| 19:12.17 | mnemoc | [gpio_para] section |
| 19:13.27 | mnemoc | then you'll get some basic control over them over /sys |
| 19:13.47 | mnemoc | but only those pin you set in the [gpio_para] section of script.bin |
| 19:16.44 | mnemoc | these are very flexible SoCs. but the kernel code is design for strictly preconfigured products |
| 19:22.32 | mnemoc | if you do C, and assuming the risk of been able to easily fry your board, it's compoennts and anything connected to it, you can take a look at pio.c in https://github.com/amery/sunxi-tools |
| 19:23.10 | mnemoc | and implement something to allow raw changes over /dev/mem |
| 19:24.11 | RaYmAn | the script.bin implementation does have on advantage - you can pretty much take any generic kernel with the right modules enabled and it'll boot, regardless of how things are connected |
| 19:24.30 | RaYmAn | that is a frigging pain on tegra...Have to hack up board files to get things even vaguely booting :P |
| 19:24.43 | RaYmAn | but I suppose device trees do the same, and in a much nicer way |
| 19:25.37 | mnemoc | DT + pinctrl allows the same |
| 19:25.58 | RaYmAn | yeah |
| 19:27.14 | vinifr | 1 question, how do i edit the script.bin? |
| 19:27.20 | vinifr | :) |
| 19:27.35 | mnemoc | vinifr: same repo, bin2fex and fex2bin tools |
| 19:31.42 | cat1 | guys, maybe this was answered already, but what one can do about this error: |
| 19:31.42 | cat1 | [ 163.530] (EE) MALI(0): [maliModifyPixmapHeader:205] UMP failed to retrieve secure id |
| 19:32.17 | RaYmAn | what are you trying to do? |
| 19:32.37 | cat1 | RaYmAn: just start xorg :) |
| 19:32.48 | cat1 | nothing special though |
| 19:32.59 | RaYmAn | mali drivers aren't exactly working well yet |
| 19:33.08 | RaYmAn | as far as I can understand at least |
| 19:33.19 | cat1 | so i may consider this error harmless? |
| 19:33.47 | cat1 | does not have access to hdmi capable screen and cannot see what is happening there :) |
| 19:33.59 | RaYmAn | I doubt it's harmless. It probably means a lot of stuff doesn't work - but as far as I know, a lot of stuff doesn't work :P as in, most stuff. |
| 19:34.36 | cat1 | RaYmAn: actually xorg dies once in a while, and i believe this is the reason.. |
| 19:34.44 | cat1 | but not sure |
| 19:37.00 | RaYmAn | what drivers are you using? |
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| 19:39.12 | mnemoc | cat1: poke techn or rz2k |
| 19:39.15 | cat1 | kernel from next_mali and userspace r3p1.. well, it does not really match the kernel version but i think it does not really matter for this problem |
| 19:39.38 | RaYmAn | right, so known broken drivers :P |
| 19:39.43 | RaYmAn | but yeah, techn or rz2k |
| 19:39.46 | RaYmAn | :) |
| 19:39.47 | cat1 | :D |
| 19:39.48 | techn | zup |
| 19:40.19 | techn | next_mali is for r3p0 |
| 19:40.25 | cat1 | techn: right |
| 19:40.43 | cat1 | i just do not see that much difference, ioctl should be same |
| 19:41.30 | techn | yep.. they could fit together.. but anyway libs we got are not ment for x11 |
| 19:41.43 | cat1 | btw, i had another problem with ump memory allocations, luckily fix was easy: |
| 19:41.43 | cat1 | modprobe ump ump_memory_size=256000000 |
| 19:42.27 | cat1 | techn: actually what i want to achieve now is just to keep xorg alive |
| 19:42.46 | cat1 | do not expect from it anything more atm :) |
| 19:43.23 | Turl | cat1: the mem allocation on the libs is hardcoded to 64M as far as I recall |
| 19:43.41 | Turl | do you really want to allocate half/a quarter of the ram to the gpu anyway? :P |
| 19:43.41 | cat1 | Turl: i am talking about ump not mali |
| 19:43.55 | techn | cat1: but for that secureid(buf2) problem you could apply patch from my repo |
| 19:44.05 | cat1 | Turl: is it just safety limit, will be tuned later |
| 19:44.06 | Turl | cat1: the userspace libs have the address and size hardcoded on them afaik |
| 19:44.36 | cat1 | Turl: hmm.. |
| 19:44.37 | Turl | I tried to move the allocation once and it complained because the address wasn't the one it had hardcoded on the libs |
| 19:44.45 | techn | https://github.com/techn/linux-allwinner/commits/wip/mali_buf |
| 19:44.46 | cat1 | techn: what is the patch id? |
| 19:44.52 | cat1 | techn: thx |
| 19:45.47 | cat1 | wonder if he can cook git am friendly stuff from github.. |
| 19:46.15 | Turl | cat1: add ".patch" to the commit view url |
| 19:46.29 | techn | I should propably do pull request/ patch review.. but I'd rather wait until we got working libs |
| 19:46.32 | Turl | like https://github.com/techn/linux-allwinner/commit/e7e2feb36a66f19cb53e31e27e101fc66456be82.patch |
| 19:46.44 | mnemoc | techn: mailing list please |
| 19:46.46 | cat1 | Turl: just recalled it from earlier discussions! :) |
| 19:50.32 | techn | cat1: what's that ump memory allocation problem.. I havent seen it |
| 19:53.06 | cat1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.06 | cat1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:54.49 | Turl | fuu nand :( |
| 19:57.33 | cat1 | techn: your patch helped, there is no error anymore, but xorg dies regardless.. |
| 19:57.33 | cat1 | [...] |
| 19:57.33 | cat1 | [ 61.038] (II) MALI(0): MaliHWSaveScreen: ENTER |
| 19:57.33 | cat1 | [ 108.977] (II) MALI(0): MaliCloseScreen: ENTER |
| 19:57.33 | cat1 | [...] |
| 19:57.34 | cat1 | for some reason screen gets closed.. maybe this is mer specific.. |
| 20:01.38 | techn | cat1: are you loading windowing? |
| 20:01.53 | cat1 | techn: what's that? |
| 20:01.57 | techn | if just plain x would start without problems |
| 20:02.33 | cat1 | techn: it is plain xorg, i can even run plain xterm on it, but it does not last long :( |
| 20:03.35 | cat1 | techn: but i suspect that there is something mer specific... will try to figure out |
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| 20:15.40 | cat1 | techn: yeah, that was something else that killed xorg; will bisect the ux startup sequence ;) |
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| 20:28.45 | cat1 | techn: was easy to find, mcompositor is to blame.. it gives spews interesing error before it dies: |
| 20:28.46 | cat1 | UMP: ump_arch_open() failed to open UMP device driver |
| 20:28.46 | cat1 | QEgl::display(): Cannot initialize EGL display: "Bad alloc (0x3003)" |
| 20:29.43 | techn | great.. are you able to use mer mcompositor without x? |
| 20:30.21 | cat1 | techn: not sure if this is possible.. |
| 20:30.37 | techn | .. after thinking.. debug that error ;) |
| 20:30.40 | cat1 | need to ask on #mer channel :) |
| 20:30.46 | captainigloo | i guess it's not |
| 20:30.59 | captainigloo | unless it can be used with wayland |
| 20:31.14 | cat1 | captainigloo: they say it can |
| 20:31.26 | captainigloo | ah great |
| 20:31.27 | techn | wayland or directfb |
| 20:31.28 | cat1 | captainigloo: but wayland is no help here |
| 20:32.00 | captainigloo | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10/ <= you get the 0x3003 error |
| 20:32.04 | captainigloo | like me :) |
| 20:32.54 | captainigloo | in the last part of this wiki page |
| 20:32.59 | cat1 | captainigloo: indeeeeed :D |
| 20:33.17 | captainigloo | i tries with EFL and i get the same problem |
| 20:33.32 | captainigloo | i even write a small test program that only initialize egl |
| 20:33.36 | captainigloo | but same problem |
| 20:33.58 | cat1 | techn: there is also some glestest tool that tells me: Got no EGL display. wonder, what in Xorg.log would indicate that i do have one. |
| 20:34.31 | cat1 | captainigloo: did you try directfb instead of xorg? |
| 20:34.51 | captainigloo | nope |
| 20:35.25 | captainigloo | but somebody has accelerated graphics on top of frabuffer and eGL |
| 20:35.27 | captainigloo | without X |
| 20:35.30 | zoobab_ | l |
| 20:35.31 | captainigloo | with xbmc |
| 20:35.42 | captainigloo | let find the git repo |
| 20:35.43 | techn | cat1: I tried directfb way.. but directfb which comes with ubuntu is really old.. so I gave up since there is api breaks |
| 20:35.46 | captainigloo | let me* |
| 20:36.15 | captainigloo | https://github.com/empatzero/xbmca10 here it is |
| 20:36.24 | cat1 | wonder is i should re-compile xorg with --disable-glx.. |
| 20:36.28 | techn | http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400#r2p4 , there is differences with currect userspace libs.. I managed to get r2p4 working |
| 20:36.45 | techn | with X |
| 20:36.52 | cat1 | techn: with recent kernel drivers or with old ones? |
| 20:36.53 | captainigloo | cat1: i already do that, but without success, but i may missed something :) |
| 20:37.03 | cat1 | captainigloo: oh :) |
| 20:37.10 | techn | cat1: v2 branch |
| 20:40.05 | captainigloo | http://linux-sunxi.org/Mali400#r2p4 <= So there is finally opengl es working with x11 ? |
| 20:40.55 | techn | captainigloo: I used libs from cnxsoftware's repo.. is that you? ;) |
| 20:41.36 | captainigloo | iirc this libs are for armhf only |
| 20:41.41 | captainigloo | i was using softfp one |
| 20:42.02 | techn | hmm.. I'll update that wiki a bit |
| 20:42.21 | captainigloo | but yes they should come from cnxsoftware repo |
| 20:42.36 | captainigloo | i thinkk there is no other sources, as it's proprieraty software |
| 20:43.28 | captainigloo | techn: what's the cnxsoftware repo you are talking about ? |
| 20:44.54 | techn | https://github.com/cnxsoft/a10-bin/tree/master/armhf/lib |
| 20:45.30 | captainigloo | yep that on, but i tried with armel version |
| 20:45.55 | captainigloo | as i'm using a toolchain for armv7a softfp |
| 20:47.42 | techn | hmm.. you could check build command from binary |
| 20:47.48 | techn | if it's ment for x11 |
| 20:49.04 | captainigloo | how to do that ? |
| 20:50.28 | techn | I used just notepad and it's there as plain text |
| 20:51.43 | captainigloo | i'm sorry what do you mean, which build command ? |
| 20:54.34 | zoobab_ | @mnemoc how can I dump the NAND on the minix? |
| 20:55.31 | zoobab_ | minix has some OTG with probably adb shell |
| 20:55.44 | zoobab_ | don't know if I need a particular usb cable |
| 20:55.47 | mnemoc | zoobab_: please call it miniX, not minix. minix is an OS |
| 20:56.02 | techn | captainigloo: in that binary you can find build flags.. it's in plain text format |
| 20:56.18 | captainigloo | ahhh ok :) |
| 20:56.35 | mnemoc | zoobab_: i've never used that device, but I suppose it's just like any other A10 with android |
| 20:57.23 | techn | good night |
| 20:57.26 | zoobab_ | miniX sorry |
| 20:57.42 | mnemoc | zoobab_: the stock gpl-violating kernel does let you see the whole logical nand, so you have to go partition my partition (/dev/block/nand[a-j]) dd'ing it to a file in /sdcard/ |
| 20:58.06 | zoobab_ | how can I access it if I do not have adb shell access? |
| 20:58.35 | zoobab_ | if I install consolebot on it, with local shell I do not think I have enough rights to dump the nand |
| 20:59.01 | captainigloo | techn: yes you're right armel version is not meant for X11 ! |
| 20:59.39 | mnemoc | zoobab_: all A10 devices I know come with `su` |
| 20:59.49 | zoobab_ | trying |
| 20:59.58 | mnemoc | zoobab_: without root access you can't make a backup |
| 21:08.16 | cat1 | techn: heh, was trying to mix r2p4 user with r3p0 kernel -- no luck! get this: |
| 21:08.17 | cat1 | [nemo@localhost ~]$ glestest |
| 21:08.17 | cat1 | UMP: ump_arch_open() failed to open UMP device driver |
| 21:09.14 | mnemoc | cat1: that smells to permissions |
| 21:09.28 | cat1 | mnemoc: good idea! |
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| 21:11.56 | cat1 | now it confirms incompatibility: |
| 21:11.56 | cat1 | Device driver API mismatch |
| 21:11.56 | cat1 | Device driver API version: 14 |
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| 21:30.23 | zoobab_ | dumping the nand* partitions |
| 21:32.16 | Turl | cat1: yeah don't mix mali versions |
| 21:32.24 | Turl | that's asking for trouble :) |
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| 21:41.41 | zoobab_ | is there a more recent rootfs then linaro-precise-ubuntu-desktop-20120524-177.tar.gz ? |
| 21:42.29 | mnemoc | there is a version from sept. |
| 21:42.34 | zoobab_ | url? |
| 21:42.50 | mnemoc | on the phone, sorry :< |
| 21:43.02 | zoobab_ | ok |
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| 22:45.10 | L84Supper | http://tinyurl.com/8cbe42z A10 Mini PC's in a USB stick are down to $33, are they dumping the A10's in favor of something else already? |
| 22:45.19 | traeak | a13 ? |
| 22:48.42 | Turl | dual core chips? I saw some dual core "mini pc"s |
| 22:49.02 | traeak | rockchip maybe? |
| 22:49.29 | Turl | yeah possibly |
| 22:49.47 | Turl | if empat0 xmbc works as advertised though, these might make a sweet deal for some :) |
| 22:50.02 | projectgus | there could be other explanations, like cheaper ram prices or economies of scale |
| 22:51.33 | traeak | empat0? |
| 22:51.41 | Turl | I'm asking a random seller on alibaba now |
| 22:52.56 | projectgus | in my experience alibaba sellers will tell you anything non-commital that they think you want to hear |
| 22:53.08 | projectgus | traeak: https://github.com/empatzero/xbmca10 |
| 22:58.01 | Turl | meh the trademanager thingy on web went on maintenance |
| 22:59.58 | L84Supper | maybe they are bracing for the coming storm of A10 cards that will forever change the the face of ARM Linux ..... naahh |
| 23:00.42 | L84Supper | are there similar low cost A13 products? |
| 23:02.01 | L84Supper | cubieboards are all sold out, anyone hear when they be available? |
| 23:03.48 | projectgus | have any cubieboards shipped yet? |
| 23:10.48 | penguin42 | https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/cubieboard/769gAAzl45g says next week |
| 23:13.16 | L84Supper | the order button returns with: Cubieboard is sold out now. Please add your email address to our list. We will inform you when cubieboard is available. |
| 23:13.55 | L84Supper | does they only have a limited supply of parts? |
| 23:17.33 | penguin42 | L84Supper: I think they made a first batch of 100 or something, and that sold out |
| 23:17.45 | penguin42 | L84Supper: It's always a good idea to do one batch first and see what the problems are |
| 23:18.42 | L84Supper | we usually make a batch to test in-house before unleashing them on the public |
| 23:23.45 | penguin42 | L84Supper: I guess also it's difficult to guage how popular they would be |
| 23:23.56 | L84Supper | maybe |
| 23:40.08 | zoobab_ | got the X running on the miniX |
| 23:40.21 | zoobab_ | in 1280x800 though |
| 23:40.42 | zoobab_ | any idea if it can go higher? |
| 23:41.10 | zoobab_ | installing chromium on the miniX |
| 23:52.57 | ZaEarl | I don't see why not. All A10s should be able to do at least 1920x1080. |
| 23:54.15 | lundman | yeah but they cant :) |
| 23:54.19 | lundman | (right now) |
| 23:55.00 | ZaEarl | due to framebuffer driver limits? |