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| 00:08.41 | Marex | mnemoc: fucked up |
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| 02:19.52 | WarheadsSE | woo nitrogen6x... |
| 02:19.54 | WarheadsSE | woosh |
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| 06:22.08 | hno | Marex, have not had time to look at u-boot after getting the A13 to run stable, and have a bit of work remaining there which applies on both A13 and A10. |
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| 06:24.09 | hno | Marex, and calris is working on cleaning up the current A10 tree a bit. Need to coordinate a bit there. |
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| 07:18.52 | mnemoc | Marex: :-) |
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| 07:35.21 | RaYmAn | hno: not exactly easy on nordic keyboards ;) |
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| 07:59.37 | blahee | seconded. When i do want to browse back with screen, i usually just use the log feature as in CTRL-a H |
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| 08:16.20 | Marex | hno: yea, I know ... he's whining into my gtalk all the time, not only about a10 ;-) |
| 08:17.33 | lundman | M-p (esc-p) is scrollback in irssi |
| 08:17.49 | lundman | C-a [ is scrollback in screen. |
| 08:17.51 | lundman | :) |
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| 08:22.00 | hno | RaYmAn, the screen combo? no... but you don't use that often. But being a C programmer on nordic keyboards is... |
| 08:23.14 | lundman | main() á printf("hiö"); ä |
| 08:24.13 | lundman | å |
| 08:24.16 | lundman | ahh found it |
| 08:24.26 | lundman | C-a C-v aa |
| 08:27.13 | calris | lol |
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| 08:37.48 | calris | hno: ping? |
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| 10:08.29 | calris | Quiet night... |
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| 10:46.27 | calris | thinks hno must be asleep |
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| 10:53.32 | calris | popolon: wb - short trip ;) |
| 10:57.28 | Mazon | calris, well, it is broad daylight ;) |
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| 10:58.53 | calris | Mazon: not here - 9:00pm |
| 11:10.13 | mnemoc | calris: .jp? |
| 11:11.03 | calris | aus |
| 11:11.08 | mnemoc | :) |
| 11:11.28 | calris | Newcastle |
| 11:11.37 | mnemoc | needs to fix his mental model of the continents |
| 11:12.23 | calris | East coast - North of Sydney |
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| 11:13.33 | mnemoc | calris: my brain had decided australia was more to the right and .nz was "aligned" with .jp... shame |
| 11:17.06 | rm | mnemoc, are you in Chile? |
| 11:17.13 | mnemoc | rm: .es |
| 11:18.05 | rm | also your website is a http://geeks.cl/ nginx error, and a http://www.geeks.cl/ github error :) |
| 11:20.47 | mnemoc | rm: I have it set to return 503 |
| 11:21.19 | rm | boooring |
| 11:22.22 | mnemoc | rm: I only use the mail address |
| 11:23.16 | rm | but why .cl? :) |
| 11:23.29 | mnemoc | I'm from there |
| 11:23.34 | rm | oh, I see |
| 11:23.40 | mnemoc | but i live in .es |
| 11:24.04 | mnemoc | and the server is in .de... |
| 11:24.43 | mnemoc | and irsii runs in .us ... connecting to a znc in that server.. |
| 11:24.45 | mnemoc | messy |
| 11:25.54 | mnemoc | and to add more mess, i'm italian :| |
| 11:26.16 | mnemoc | by passport at least |
| 11:28.34 | rm | well, I have a similar configuration regarding servers, don't think it's a mess though |
| 11:31.59 | mnemoc | a .de server with .cl PTR serving nothing related to the .cl domain it reverses to? |
| 11:32.05 | mnemoc | messy :p |
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| 11:40.36 | popolon | calris_away,a reboot resoleved my problem with my intel opensource driver :/ |
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| 11:48.08 | rm | mnemoc, I am from Russia and have a server in France serving my .hk domain |
| 11:49.07 | mnemoc | :D |
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| 11:57.31 | hno | calris_away, pong |
| 11:58.02 | hno | yes I was asleep. Had a quite messed up night so took a lunch nap. |
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| 12:54.05 | arete74 | http://melea1000.blogspot.it/ xmbc support for xmbc |
| 12:58.40 | mnemoc | arete74: j1nx made a post about how to use MX (cedarx power) as external player for xmbc too |
| 12:58.47 | mnemoc | powered* |
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| 13:10.27 | mSquare | hello, I have compiled kernel & module from source (https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/tree/lichee-3.0.8-sun4i) & trying to boot allwinner a10 device...SurfaceFlinger keep crashing and seeing "eglInitialize(0x1) failed (EGL_BAD_ALLOC)" error in logcat...Any clues on how to resole them? (Google search wasn't successful for me) |
| 13:13.37 | rm | xmbc support for xmbc <- a case of "Yo Dawg"? :) |
| 13:15.43 | mnemoc | mSquare: be sure to use sun4i_crane_defconfig for android |
| 13:16.45 | mnemoc | mSquare: but anyhow that branch isn't recommended. try to use the default one instead (allwinner-v3.0-android-v2) |
| 13:17.08 | mnemoc | the lichee branch is there only for people who needs to add new modules to the gpl-violating kernel distributed with devices |
| 13:17.21 | mnemoc | not for full builds |
| 13:18.15 | mSquare | mnemoc: I first tried with allwinner-v3.0-android-v2, but kernel is not booting..with lichee-3.0.8-sun4i able to boot kernel though... |
| 13:20.20 | mSquare | mnemoc: will try with sun4i_crane_defconfig ( used sun4i_defconfig before) |
| 13:20.39 | mnemoc | sun4i_defconfig is for normal linux |
| 13:20.53 | mSquare | mnemoc: oh.. |
| 13:22.24 | mnemoc | also, if using the stock uboot in nanda you'll probably need to enalbe the ignore atag mem config option |
| 13:22.42 | mnemoc | in 3.0-v2, not lichee3 |
| 13:34.00 | mSquare | mnemoc: ok |
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| 14:32.00 | Marex | mnemoc: you know this "mem=<size>M@0xaddress" command line option, right ? |
| 14:32.19 | mnemoc | sure |
| 14:32.49 | mnemoc | Marex: why? |
| 14:33.23 | Marex | it overrides the mem atag |
| 14:34.11 | mnemoc | Marex: the stock bootloader from allwinner passes the mem info encoded in a magic address |
| 14:34.45 | mnemoc | Marex: and the original kernel is set to trash mem atag |
| 14:35.04 | mnemoc | Marex: that config option is to resurect that behavior |
| 14:36.31 | mnemoc | also, in A10 mem= is quite risky because the mali driver expects the kernel doesn't know about the last 64M of the first 512M bank |
| 14:36.39 | mnemoc | tons of hardcoded stuff |
| 14:37.25 | mnemoc | we tried to reserve that chunk "properly" but every experiement ended up in the kernel driver or the user space libs crashing |
| 14:37.49 | mnemoc | awful |
| 14:39.33 | hno | mnemoc, have anyone looked into how other soc kernels handle the mali memory? |
| 14:41.33 | mnemoc | i don't remember the details, but at least the integration of linaro maintained mali-socs are very different than stock |
| 14:42.36 | mnemoc | was* |
| 14:43.23 | mnemoc | after merging/testing r3p0 (https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/69) we can try again to get rid of all that junk |
| 14:45.18 | mnemoc | we froze the effort because some demi-god from ARM was going to receive a free mele from hiptop and then fix our libs and kernel integration.... |
| 14:45.33 | mSquare | mnemoc: Thanks a bunch..Have successfully booted with allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 kernel.. |
| 14:45.48 | mnemoc | mSquare: great |
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| 14:54.06 | mnemoc | iirc rm tried to get 1G working passing two mem= (448+512) and didn't work :< |
| 14:54.11 | mnemoc | 1GB* |
| 14:55.46 | rm | because mine is hard-locked at 512 |
| 14:55.56 | rm | even boot0/whatever see only 512MB |
| 14:55.59 | rm | and initialize |
| 14:56.10 | mnemoc | ouch |
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| 15:35.06 | hno | rm, boot0 have the memory size configured in it's header.- |
| 15:37.16 | hno | it does not try to detect, only set things up per it's configuration. |
| 15:38.13 | hno | boot1 and script.bin also includes memory configuration, not yet sure why it's in boot1. |
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| 15:44.17 | rm | I still haven't figured out how to fix that preferrably without fiddling with LiveSuit and Android firmwares |
| 15:51.25 | CIA-14 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r80923642b3d2 /: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus |
| 15:51.26 | CIA-14 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r7060f6bb3bba /allwinner_a10/news/a10.eoma68.pcb.png: update |
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| 15:55.18 | CIA-14 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * re2d582c98c4b / (3 files in 3 dirs): CPU Card Schematics done |
| 15:57.59 | CIA-14 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rbdfe5c8c082a /allwinner_a10/news/a10.eoma68.pcb.png: CPU Card Schematics done |
| 15:58.18 | mnemoc | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/news/a10.eoma68.pcb.png \o/ |
| 15:58.53 | mnemoc | very weird wits ended up doing it |
| 16:00.16 | Quarx | mnemoc: hello, i'm soo long no check changes in v2 branch... |
| 16:00.25 | Quarx | but now it won't boot:) |
| 16:01.16 | mnemoc | Quarx: if you are using the sick stock bootloader you need to enable the ignore atag mem config option |
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| 16:04.17 | mnemoc | Quarx: if not it will trust there is a sane bootloader properly passing the mem info, which by default you don't have |
| 16:05.08 | Quarx | mnemoc: yea, thanks, it works:) |
| 16:05.24 | mnemoc | Quarx: cool :) |
| 16:05.39 | Quarx | spi patch still not merged |
| 16:05.59 | mnemoc | some parts of it yes |
| 16:06.18 | mnemoc | techn is working on doing it in a way that works for other devices too. not only aurora |
| 16:07.50 | Quarx | ah, ok :) |
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| 16:16.40 | techn | mnemoc: just got info that I won bid for two allwinner tablets.. a10 and a13.. so I can test changes :) |
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| 16:22.34 | mnemoc | techn: \o/ |
| 16:41.07 | rz2k | anyone tried to test this? https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/61#post-1251 mali400 2d accel., I've got mele a2000 yesterday, now playing with linaro 12.08 and xorg. when I try to set resolution in xorg.conf, mali drivers accept new resolution, but real resolution stays the same. |
| 16:41.30 | rz2k | here is my xorg log http://pastebin.com/RN2t11H7 |
| 16:42.13 | rz2k | my output is VGA and kernel/modules is latest from cnxsoft daily builds. |
| 16:43.41 | rz2k | my xorg config http://pastebin.com/u3znHi0v |
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| 16:58.18 | Tsvetan | hi |
| 16:58.49 | mnemoc | wb Tsvetan |
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| 17:42.52 | rm | I did not try the mali driver at all |
| 17:43.10 | rm | and the only way to switch resolutions properly with fbdev, seemed to be via editing the script.bin |
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| 18:03.48 | techn | rm you can use that tool to switch resolution.. i'll try to search.. |
| 18:05.31 | rm | it did not work completely |
| 18:05.54 | rm | I was either getting a 1280x720 window in the lower-left corner of my monitor |
| 18:06.16 | rm | or a full resolution, but only that window was visible, with the rest of desktop being black screen |
| 18:06.36 | techn | for me it did change the resution.. atleast in fbcon :) |
| 18:06.49 | techn | hmm |
| 18:07.05 | techn | change that resolution and restart lightdm ? |
| 18:07.19 | techn | or I mean restart X :) |
| 18:07.19 | rm | restarted lots of times |
| 18:08.05 | techn | or change x driver to fbdev (if you are using mali?) |
| 18:08.40 | techn | a10_display was that tool I ment |
| 18:09.02 | techn | http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?6,9002,9002,quote=1 |
| 18:09.16 | rm | ohh |
| 18:09.19 | rm | that's a new one |
| 18:09.20 | rm | for me |
| 18:09.37 | techn | fbset doesn't work yet |
| 18:09.49 | techn | it seems to change only virtual resolution |
| 18:09.54 | traeak | heh |
| 18:10.05 | rm | I only used "vga_on" |
| 18:11.07 | rm | anyways |
| 18:11.18 | rm | the most important question for me regarding the built-in video |
| 18:11.24 | rm | does mali support DPMS? |
| 18:11.29 | rm | the mali driver |
| 18:11.43 | rm | anyone uses it here? |
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| 18:14.34 | rz2k | seems like nobody is interested in mali anymore.. |
| 18:15.25 | hno | rm, no idea if the mali driver supports DMPS. In fact not even sure the hardware does support all levels of DMPS other than on and off. |
| 18:15.48 | rm | on and off would be good enough |
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| 18:16.28 | hno | on and off are easy to implement. on = normal, off = output disabled (no sync signals) |
| 18:18.14 | hno | standby and suspend modes requires control of the sync signal states. It probably is possibe as well by playing with sync signal polarity, but not sure. |
| 18:18.15 | rm | but are you sure you even get that level of control with A10 |
| 18:18.29 | rm | considering it has this table of fixed video modes |
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| 18:18.44 | hno | yes, ofcourse you can disable/enable the video ports individually. |
| 18:18.54 | rz2k | hm, seems like doozan has great amount of mele scripts and stuff, why he didnt announce them here? or he did and I'm blind? |
| 18:19.09 | hno | and even shut down the video entirely. |
| 18:19.30 | hno | and hardware do not have any fixed video modes, that's a driver artefact. |
| 18:22.56 | hno | rz2k, there is interest in mali, but not quite sufficient manpower to finish it off. |
| 18:23.39 | hno | it's a little difficult with the half-closed nature of things as outsiders can't even get information what is needed and have to guess. |
| 18:24.43 | rz2k | j1nx some time ago said that ARM will recieve mele and look whats up, but no news about that. |
| 18:27.58 | rz2k | I just dont believe that with amount of mk802/mk802II sales manufacturers are not interested in having x11 support. |
| 18:29.46 | traeak | believe |
| 18:30.10 | traeak | never overestimate incompetence |
| 18:30.20 | rz2k | and talking about sales, seems like eoma68 netbook is expected to be sold with android? |
| 18:30.26 | traeak | i mean you can't normally overestimate incompetence |
| 18:30.40 | traeak | heh |
| 18:33.09 | rz2k | if it will, I dont get who will buy it, there is new archos ti4430 based tablet with qwerty dock/case, asus transformer on tegra and chinese-crap a10 netbooks. only free market is native linux arm netbooks, sort of, geek stuff. |
| 18:33.39 | rm | "mk802/mk802II play youtube and angry birds just fine. what is x11, is it on google market?" |
| 18:33.51 | rz2k | lol |
| 18:37.32 | traeak | the a10 netbooks would be interesting if they had sata and if the damn x11 drivers were more interesting |
| 18:37.40 | traeak | of course assuming they would have 20hrs battery life |
| 18:38.12 | rz2k | check eome68 spec for sata |
| 18:39.25 | rz2k | for now, 3000mAh battery drives A13 for 3 hours with semi-full load |
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| 18:40.46 | rz2k | time to have some sleep, good night. |
| 18:41.54 | rm | nite |
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| 18:58.32 | hno | Why would anyone want a laptop with Android? A convertible tabled I get, but laptop? |
| 19:00.12 | xxiao | hno: that puzzles me too |
| 19:00.19 | traeak | hno: boneheaded brain dead marketing folks |
| 19:00.49 | xxiao | other than a toilet reader i use my netbook way more than that wifi-tablet |
| 19:01.32 | xxiao | netbook + AWS is the best for on-the-go devel |
| 19:03.46 | rm | AWS, Amazon? |
| 19:04.11 | xxiao | right |
| 19:04.23 | xxiao | my vps has limited memory for build stuff |
| 19:05.09 | traeak | wth tls |
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| 19:13.47 | hno | traeak, getting a fully accelerated 2D X11 driver for A10 is only a matter of doing. The g2d API is relatively easy to follow, fully open source and exported by the framebuffer driver, only missing X11 side. |
| 19:14.22 | hno | sadly A13 do not have g2d, so mali have to be used for any acceleration there. |
| 19:15.09 | hno | and mali400 is not very good at 2d stuff. |
| 19:15.36 | hno | plus the driver hell. |
| 19:16.58 | mnemoc | i've been told that EXA drivers are "very easy to write".... |
| 19:18.43 | Quarx | mnemoc: i opened new issue |
| 19:19.00 | Quarx | about last commit |
| 19:22.56 | techn_ | Quarx: you are using android? |
| 19:23.05 | Quarx | techn_: yes 4.1 |
| 19:25.15 | techn_ | try removing Fb_wait_for_vsync(info); from panning or FBIO_WAITFORVSYNC |
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| 19:27.47 | Quarx | ok |
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| 19:29.02 | techn_ | most propably removing from pan is the right way :) |
| 19:30.35 | techn_ | dunno why it was suggested in that patch I was send.. propably fixed something the wrong way :/ |
| 19:31.01 | mnemoc | should I revert? :< |
| 19:31.37 | techn_ | that one line.. yes.. Quarx is currently testing that change :/ |
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| 19:31.54 | Turl | mnemoc: mali? :P |
| 19:31.56 | mnemoc | that line is the only real change in the commit |
| 19:32.22 | mnemoc | Turl: ehm uhm ... tonight or tomorrow morning, with the next 3.0.x |
| 19:33.31 | Turl | ok |
| 19:33.51 | Turl | mnemoc: there's some work to do still, config wise, as ARM implemented proper kconfigs |
| 19:34.11 | Turl | namely change the deps on fb or whatever to CONFIG_MALI400 instead of _MALI iirc |
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| 19:42.54 | Quarx | techn_: yes, after remove Fb_wait_for_vsync(info), no problems |
| 19:43.16 | techn_ | from pan? |
| 19:43.30 | Quarx | yes, Fb_pan_display |
| 19:44.24 | techn_ | thanks :) |
| 19:44.35 | Quarx | my aurora always have problems:D |
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| 19:51.36 | Quarx | Turl: mali 3.0 works:) |
| 19:52.38 | Quarx | now i can use this kernel too... problems with battery consumption is gone (don't know which commit fix it) |
| 19:54.05 | techn_ | Quarx: nice :) can't wait to get my tablets :) |
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| 21:41.50 | WarheadsSE | coughs |
| 21:44.11 | specing | sneezes |
| 21:45.11 | WarheadsSE | oh look, more devices have arrived |
| 21:45.15 | WarheadsSE | heh. |
| 21:45.31 | WarheadsSE | mumbles about mounting piles of unopened hardware |
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| 23:16.24 | hno | WarheadsSE, you are welcome to send some over here. |
| 23:22.19 | WarheadsSE | :p |
