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05:56.29lundmandid we got new files from allwinner today?
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07:18.46hipboilundman: there are still bug of the lib
07:21.08TomNLhipboi
07:21.18hipboihi
07:21.21TomNLhipboi: they are still working on it?
07:21.25hipboiyes
07:21.34hipboibut slowly with complaining
07:21.47hipboiat a lower priority
07:22.01TomNLah ok :) hehe
07:23.04TomNLat least it's still progressing
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07:42.04hipboianyone knows barebox?
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08:50.34popolonhttp://cubieboard.org/author/cubieboard/ <= wtf ???
08:53.59popolonhttp://cubietech.com/ <= some spams here :D
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09:00.39Mazonlol, impending spam bomb? : http://linux-sunxi.org/Special:RecentChanges
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11:08.36zenitraMTurl: didn't bring my Mele, definetly should have
11:09.02zenitraMnow i'm waiting for a workshop by @dcuartielles with Arduino and some sort of new GSM module they're giving out
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23:06.42lercAnyone got to doing any gpu benchmarks on the R-Pi?  I'm interested to see how it really compares to mali.
23:07.25Dandel_lerc: got the benchark?
23:08.33lercNot on hand.  but I assume they exist :-)
23:11.14popolonwhich gpu is there on rPi => ok videocore IV
23:11.19popolonhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VideoCore
23:11.51popolonhttp://www.broadcom.com/products/Cellular/Mobile-Multimedia-Processors/BCM2763
23:12.37lercIt gets talked up a lot, but I han't seen any decent tests of it.   If it is good as touted it may make up for the Arm11
23:15.24TurlzenitraM: pi+arduino+GSM? sounds like a deal :P
23:16.27zenitraMTurl: this thingy http://blog.mx510.com/2012/08/24/arduino-gsmgprs-shield-gets-helping-hand-from-telefonica-for-data-remote-control/
23:17.11zenitraMwe played with them this morning, and being able to http GET with a few lines of code is pretty cool
23:19.44zenitraMthey will sell them with SIMs with not so expensive international roaming which is pretty cool
23:22.45Dandel_lerc: speed wise, the cpu is definitely slow... a basic graph test shows that it's easily 3 to 10 times slower than a desktop.
23:23.14Turlfree data sims for life too? :)
23:23.28penguin42Turl: Yeh like that deal will last long!
23:23.44lercYeah,  but I remember what the Archimedes could do without a GPU.
23:24.24penguin42lerc: Not through a full modern GUI stack
23:24.53penguin42lerc: (i.e. bloated and slow...)
23:26.49GumbootDandel_: It appears to be open to an awful lot of overclocking.
23:27.22lercit's a gumboot!
23:27.24GumbootAlthough I couldn't say for sure that that's the same geometry as used in the pi.
23:27.37zenitraMTurl: I hope so :P
23:27.39GumbootNo it's not.
23:27.43Dandel_Gumboot: if you have good opengl es demos, I'll gladly try em
23:28.00GumbootOK, I'm not wearing a neck tie, so I guess it is.
23:28.07lercWhere do you live now Gumboot?
23:29.40GumbootCambridge.
23:31.03GumbootHere's _almost_ a reference: http://www.mobilistaan.com/nokia-808-pureview-review.html
23:32.13GumbootOK, if I kept searching I'd probably find someone writing down all on the same page that there's an 1176 in the 808, and that it's running at 1.3GHz.
23:32.51GumbootThere's some debate over whether or not that's the same ARM1176 as is present in the BCM2763, which I might find mentioned on the same page as well if I search hard enough.
23:33.10GumbootIf it could do 1.3GHz then it probably wouldn't suck.
23:33.28GumbootExcept on the power rails.
23:33.38Gumbootapologies.  That was uncalledfor.
23:34.00Gumbootlerc: Cambridge UK, that is.  I missed the boat for the valley this year.  Will take another shot next year.
23:34.22popolonBCM2835 not 2735
23:34.36popolonhttp://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs <= here
23:34.47popolonbut still videocore IV inisde
23:35.10GumbootOh.  Oh well.
23:35.38GumbootBroadcom might tabulate the differences on their site.  I wouldn't want to be caught discussing things at that level, myself.
23:38.51lercI'm still in Christchurch,  such that it is these days.
23:41.19lundmanits identical to before :)
23:45.30popolonhttp://www.broadcom.com/products/BCM2835
23:46.16popolonOpenGL-ES® 1.1/2.0 VideoCore GPU. 1 Gigapixel per second fill rate.
23:46.20popolonnot too bad
23:46.40popolonfar less (1/3.2) than a mali 400
23:47.06popolonprobably the level of some ATOM GPU
23:48.04Dandel_popolon: it's about on the same as the mali400 using 1 pixel processor.
23:48.35popolon???
23:48.45popolondon't understand
23:49.07lercok That's a lot less than I thought it would be givent the way people talk about it.
23:49.20popolonon low end SoC, with Mali 400MP, the fill rate is about 3,2 Gpixel/s
23:50.05popolonbut the intel HD3000 included in my core i7 is less than the mali 400MP in low end ARM SoC
23:50.21popolonalread able to trace lot of 3d stuff
23:50.33ZaEarlpopolon, isn't that the rate for a 4-core mali? Most mali soc's aren't 4-core.
23:50.36Turlat what resolution?
23:50.46popolonfor a 2 core Mali on armlogic
23:51.19popolon2 http://www.uplaytablet.com/compare-soc-cpus-used-in-ainol-elf-aurora-ii-amlogic-8726-mx-wopad-i7-i8-rock-chip-rk-2918-and-wopad-a10-allwinner-a10/
23:51.36popolonAmlogic (not armlogic)
23:52.08popolonand that's only about pixel fill rate
23:52.26popolonshould look at global capacities
23:52.42popolonshould be about the same with allwinner A10
23:53.25popolonblender should run fluently on a raspberry Pi or a allwinner A10 :)
23:53.36popolonat list for simple to medium models
23:54.00lercI thought the A10 was a single core Mali400
23:54.09popolondon't know at all
23:54.11Turlit is afaik
23:54.30popolonMP doesn't mean multicore ?
23:54.33ZaEarlhttp://tomkanok.wordpress.com/2012/04/13/amlogic-aml8726-mx-architecture/ seems to correct those figures quite a bit
23:54.34popolonmultiprocessor
23:54.51ZaEarl800 MPixel/s.
23:55.18ZaEarla10 is single-core mali
23:55.27popolonwhere do you see 800 mp/s ?
23:55.39popolonoops
23:55.47popolonI clicked on picture to fast
23:55.51ZaEarlthe mali design is designed for 4-core, that's why it's called mp, even when it isn't implemented that way
23:56.22Turlif 4core@200Mhz is 3.2GP, shouldn't 2 core @400Mhz be 3.2GP too?
23:56.31popolonokok
23:56.51popolonhéhé not wrong
23:57.09popolonperhaps little less, perhaps little more
23:57.48ZaEarlI'd love to see some real-world tests
23:58.27popolonallwinner Mali 400MP is at 300MHz

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