| 00:20.14 | furan | hno not much, just info about what stage it's at |
| 00:20.58 | furan | I'll copy a log |
| 00:24.15 | furan | trying my hand at upgrading NANd |
| 00:24.28 | furan | turns out i had a bad usb cable the other day (what luck) |
| 00:25.02 | furan | anyway, I've got the new entry for the 32gig chip I'm using in every place that references it (including the code used to flash, etc) |
| 00:25.17 | furan | and it flashes successfully, but then boots back into fel again |
| 00:25.30 | furan | so I have to ask, does brom have a list of supported nand? that can't be true. |
| 00:26.19 | Turl | furan: can you boot an sdcard still? |
| 00:26.41 | furan | fel sd card works, cwm one doesn't, yet |
| 00:27.02 | Turl | furan: because you could try an sdcard + linux and see if nand works |
| 00:28.59 | furan | well I think the device is good |
| 00:29.04 | furan | just need to get the nand info correct |
| 00:29.16 | furan | (id is fine, block count/die count aren't) |
| 00:29.20 | furan | here's the debug output of livesuit |
| 00:29.22 | furan | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1145957/ |
| 00:29.35 | furan | there's a little loader noise in there, you can ignore that |
| 00:35.56 | furan | not sure if it's useful for anything but there it is :P |
| 01:25.01 | steev | specing: on the LY-F1, factory image, which partition is considered recovery |
| 01:25.57 | steev | furan: iirc, you may have to hack up the fex a bit, if you haven't. istr something about telling it how much nand you have |
| 01:34.31 | furan | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.10 | furan | basically just patched everywhere that used a specific nand id with a new nand id and fixed table entries |
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| 02:27.03 | Boulet | hi everybody |
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| 02:50.17 | tristezo2k | hello everybody, I need so help to make spdif work on my a10 |
| 02:50.31 | tristezo2k | I found a log of this room at |
| 02:50.37 | tristezo2k | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23arm-netbook/20120716.html.gz |
| 02:51.00 | tristezo2k | I have an a10-media-pc booted with debian |
| 02:51.13 | tristezo2k | and spdif is not starting properly |
| 02:51.35 | tristezo2k | according to the room log it might be something on the script.fex |
| 02:51.59 | tristezo2k | I am no so sure where to go from there :) |
| 02:58.58 | Turl | do you get audio on any of the other outputs? |
| 03:00.09 | tristezo2k | I don´t have any other output |
| 03:00.22 | tristezo2k | my ddevice doesn´t have analogic outputs |
| 03:00.30 | tristezo2k | and I don´t have an hdmi monitor :-S |
| 03:00.55 | tristezo2k | however |
| 03:01.08 | tristezo2k | audio seems to run, I mean mixer and such |
| 03:01.22 | tristezo2k | it looks to me that the spdif is not being recognized |
| 03:01.30 | tristezo2k | checking boot logs from android and debian |
| 03:01.37 | tristezo2k | I see an error message in debian |
| 03:01.45 | tristezo2k | http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?6,9197,9269#msg-9269 |
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| 03:51.11 | orly_owl | any NAS devices using allwinner? |
| 03:54.20 | lundman | great idea, I already ported zfs |
| 03:55.25 | orly_owl | i hear that's good for nas |
| 03:59.01 | lundman | very |
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| 04:07.03 | Turl | I use mine as NAS |
| 04:07.19 | Turl | have a 1T USB disk attached to it and share it over NFS |
| 04:10.08 | orly_owl | your what |
| 04:12.52 | lundman | zpool 4.53T 2.53T 2.00T 55% 1.00x ONLINE - |
| 04:12.54 | lundman | woo |
| 04:13.00 | lundman | oh wait, that's the smallone |
| 04:13.36 | Turl | lundman: no compression? :) |
| 04:14.01 | lundman | heh yeah mkv dont compress so much :) |
| 04:14.47 | Turl | :) |
| 04:14.57 | lundman | zpool1 31.2T 1.70T 29.5T 5% ONLINE - |
| 04:14.58 | lundman | woo |
| 04:15.10 | Turl | I was thinking of installing Debian/kFreeBSD on my new PC |
| 04:15.16 | Turl | just for the sake of trying it out :) |
| 04:15.32 | orly_owl | is there an arm port? ^^ |
| 04:15.40 | Turl | idk |
| 04:15.48 | Turl | never heard of bsd on arm |
| 04:15.49 | Turl | :P |
| 04:16.11 | lundman | free andnet both have armports |
| 04:16.15 | lundman | i used tobe allnetbsd |
| 04:16.23 | lundman | getting tired of this space |
| 04:16.32 | lundman | dontbuy luxeed u7 keyboard |
| 04:19.21 | Turl | looks... interesting |
| 04:19.22 | Turl | http://www.devicenation.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/LUXEED-U7-Crossover2.jpg |
| 04:19.51 | Turl | I see it has no numpad though, not a chance I'll ever buy it :) |
| 04:22.23 | lundman | yeah the leds worked for about 2 months |
| 04:22.31 | lundman | now they blink like it had a storke |
| 04:22.34 | lundman | er stroke |
| 04:27.18 | orly_owl | or a stork delivering a baby |
| 04:27.56 | Turl | lundman: how can you survive without a numpad? :P |
| 04:28.08 | lundman | never use them.. |
| 04:28.19 | lundman | but I know some people only use them |
| 04:28.29 | orly_owl | you just type numbers like so: one, two, three... |
| 04:29.35 | Turl | lundman: I find it heavily inconvenient to use the numbers over the a-z keys |
| 04:30.16 | Turl | if it weren't for the non-a-z chars that are shift combos over there I'd nuke that row |
| 04:30.37 | lundman | yeah, I learnt my typing on C64, so its not like I learnt to uyse them |
| 04:30.43 | lundman | but numpadis good when gaming |
| 04:31.02 | Turl | I never use the numpad with games :| |
| 04:31.08 | Turl | games should use the arrow keys |
| 04:31.35 | Turl | or wasd if it's some shooter for right handed people :) |
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| 04:37.09 | lundman | ye |
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| 06:46.12 | Mazon | "Gimli and Peter will receive a new version of libVE within today so that you can move on. Allwinner is redeveloping the cedarX by following OPENMAX too and will share with the community once available. " <- yeah |
| 06:46.19 | Mazon | about f* time :) |
| 06:46.43 | Boulet_ | oh nice |
| 06:46.44 | Mazon | interresting that they're switching to openmax |
| 06:46.49 | Boulet_ | yeah |
| 06:47.22 | Boulet_ | but openmax already has some optimization for neon, i wonder if they will really use their CedarX processor in those new libs..... |
| 06:47.45 | Mazon | I don't know much about the openmax api, but the fact that it's used throughout bodes well for the use of allwinner SoCs in xbmc systems |
| 06:48.03 | Mazon | and other media decoder uses |
| 06:48.09 | Mazon | and encoder? |
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| 08:05.17 | specing | steev: I have no idea :| |
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| 08:15.16 | Mazon | so, the front page of http://www.geniatech.com says: "Android 4.1 is now available on Android TV Box ATV1200 and ATV1600" - but where can you actually BUY the ATV1200 ? |
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| 08:17.33 | RaYmAn | it'd be nice to know what SoC it actually uses |
| 08:17.44 | Mazon | amlogic m6 |
| 08:17.58 | Mazon | afaik |
| 08:18.10 | Mazon | so, dualcore and 1GB ram ... what the mele should have had :) |
| 08:18.28 | Mazon | just dont know whats on the board, development wise |
| 08:18.37 | RaYmAn | yeah |
| 08:18.59 | RaYmAn | and whether amlogic is opensource friendly or not (probably not) |
| 08:19.13 | Mazon | they will be demoing it at IFA come september |
| 08:19.15 | orly_owl | does elinux.org have a list of allwinner hardware |
| 08:19.21 | orly_owl | or is therre another site |
| 08:19.26 | Mazon | afaik, amlogic is not that friendly, according to luke |
| 08:19.55 | orly_owl | ah http://elinux.org/Products |
| 08:20.19 | Mazon | orly_owl, http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page |
| 08:20.19 | RaYmAn | Mazon: btw, where did you hear about openmax vs cedarx thing? |
| 08:20.30 | orly_owl | ty |
| 08:20.32 | Mazon | RaYmAn, xbmc forum |
| 08:21.00 | RaYmAn | ah |
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| 11:35.35 | hipboi_ | anyone has nexus 7? |
| 11:35.42 | RaYmAn | yup |
| 11:35.57 | RaYmAn | not with me though - at home |
| 11:50.12 | hipboi_ | i have played with it a little bit |
| 11:50.59 | hipboi_ | i feel it's not very good... |
| 11:51.17 | RaYmAn | How so? |
| 11:51.27 | RaYmAn | I was quite impressed tbh (and I have uhm, 6 other tablets) |
| 11:52.42 | hipboi_ | it's thick |
| 11:52.50 | hipboi_ | and many buttons, input field are very small |
| 11:53.02 | hipboi_ | like in google play, install button |
| 11:53.32 | RaYmAn | I'll admit those are a bit small, yeah |
| 11:54.09 | hipboi_ | and the inform center |
| 11:54.30 | hipboi_ | looks not good |
| 11:55.21 | specing | yeah, all these consumer devices are crap anyway |
| 11:56.11 | RaYmAn | really? I'm quite happy with my n7.. The size is quite nice - it's really designed for portrait usage only - landscape isn't that great. It plays videos nicely, has an awesome quality screen with a relatively high res |
| 11:56.20 | RaYmAn | and it's speedy and batteyr is pretty decent |
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| 13:19.50 | WarheadsSE | Mazon: Arch Linux ARM is working with a person in teh company to get as much open as possible. Their video stack blows for accessibility at the moment. |
| 13:21.23 | Marex | cedarX |
| 13:21.24 | Marex | ? |
| 13:27.48 | Mazon | WarheadsSE, great to hear |
| 13:28.09 | WarheadsSE | Not cedarX, the amlogic chips |
| 13:29.57 | Turl | zomgwtfbbq!!11 http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=126995&pid=1168824#pid1168824 |
| 13:30.12 | Turl | Allwinner going to use OMX? :D |
| 13:30.15 | Mazon | Turl, bit slow today ? :) |
| 13:30.21 | Turl | yeah |
| 13:30.22 | Turl | :P |
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| 13:32.05 | Turl | I'll believe it when I see it though :P |
| 13:32.25 | Turl | the only company that ever delivered on time in my experience has been authentec :P |
| 13:33.31 | Turl | hipboi why did you say on the ML that Mali performance is bad on JB? |
| 13:33.47 | hipboi | not bad? |
| 13:33.53 | hipboi | from your experience? |
| 13:34.13 | Turl | it's the same or better than on ICS |
| 13:34.19 | hipboi | ok |
| 13:34.36 | hipboi | it will be a long time for arm to release a new driver for JB |
| 13:35.12 | RaYmAn | ICS drivers work pretty well on JB for e.g. tegra2/3 |
| 13:35.26 | RaYmAn | obviously tegra != mali, but still. |
| 13:35.41 | Turl | there's no change 'required' for JB afaik |
| 13:35.48 | hipboi | yes |
| 13:35.58 | RaYmAn | Turl: there is the vsync stuff - but not really required |
| 13:36.05 | hipboi | but there are improvement |
| 13:36.08 | Turl | yeah, other than VSYNC, but it works without it |
| 13:36.16 | hipboi | like triple buffer |
| 13:37.30 | RaYmAn | yeah, should make it more smooth |
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| 13:40.42 | hipboi | Turl: is your repo of JB built successfully? |
| 13:43.21 | Turl | hipboi yes |
| 13:43.33 | Turl | no cedar though |
| 13:43.44 | WarheadsSE | Turl: its step 1 on breakig the cedarX down.. i dont see where Allwinner is switching |
| 13:44.01 | Turl | it'd be really good if that piece of news that allwinner is switching to OMX were true hipboi :) |
| 13:44.02 | WarheadsSE | OH, THERE Turl |
| 13:44.43 | hipboi | i don't think there will turn to OMX |
| 13:44.47 | hipboi | they |
| 13:45.12 | WarheadsSE | https://github.com/iainb/CedarXWrapper |
| 13:45.27 | WarheadsSE | Just received an additional message: |
| 13:45.29 | WarheadsSE | "Gimli and Peter will receive a new version of libVE within today so that you can move on. Allwinner is redeveloping the cedarX by following OPENMAX too and will share with the community once available. |
| 13:45.31 | WarheadsSE | Best regards, |
| 13:45.33 | WarheadsSE | Eva" |
| 13:45.38 | Turl | ^ hipboi that |
| 13:45.55 | hipboi | really? |
| 13:45.59 | hipboi | today? |
| 13:46.05 | Turl | switching to OMX is a win for allwinner on the long run really |
| 13:46.13 | Turl | less maintenance cost for new android versions |
| 13:46.18 | Turl | OMX api is stable |
| 13:46.51 | hipboi | is today in the message means today? |
| 13:47.14 | Turl | hipboi probably |
| 13:47.27 | Turl | I saw it on a post on xbmc forum dated today too |
| 13:48.18 | Boulet | "is a win for allwinner" |
| 13:48.29 | Boulet | allwinner wins it all, so that was expected :o) |
| 13:48.42 | Turl | lol |
| 13:50.59 | hipboi | http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=126995&page=76 |
| 13:51.15 | Turl | yeah there's where I saw it :) |
| 13:58.26 | Turl | ouch 7.3 earthquake on Japan & Russia |
| 14:00.06 | Marex | Turl: again ? |
| 14:00.47 | Turl | cnn entry is dated last night |
| 14:01.33 | WarheadsSE | http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/usc000bz29 |
| 14:03.06 | lundman | i felt thatone |
| 14:03.12 | lundman | but quite gentle down here |
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| 14:16.48 | Marex | lundman: :-( |
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| 14:23.51 | WarheadsSE | http://txlab.wordpress.com/2012/08/01/cvji-e212-one-more-cheap-allwinner-a10-media-player/ |
| 14:23.54 | WarheadsSE | yet another A10 |
| 14:24.02 | WarheadsSE | lol @ "Boxchip A10" |
| 14:24.33 | WarheadsSE | Apparently it boots with the evb.bin setup ok. unlike the LY-F1 A721 .... |
| 14:25.51 | orly_owl | looks nice |
| 14:27.43 | WarheadsSE | its "purdy" |
| 14:28.52 | WarheadsSE | I'm noticing only spl issues with these boards that are dual banked as 2x2x128M vs 2x1x256M, everything else seems to be working ok when it |
| 14:29.02 | Boulet | has JTAG and uart, nice |
| 14:29.08 | WarheadsSE | Have to figure that out later |
| 14:29.24 | WarheadsSE | it's got samsung dram, so at least that is not total shit |
| 14:32.14 | tristezo2k | I got it running over my table right now :) |
| 14:32.43 | tristezo2k | it is playing jason becker right now with mpd |
| 14:33.35 | Boulet | what is that huge capacitor for ?? (that they did not populate on the board) |
| 14:33.54 | Boulet | oops battery |
| 14:33.56 | Boulet | ;) |
| 14:35.11 | tristezo2k | yes, it is at the power input, this is the backside |
| 14:35.18 | tristezo2k | https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/sxluPad-Y7gjHUCE0FVP5dMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink |
| 14:46.30 | WarheadsSE | tristezo2k: which tablet |
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| 14:54.11 | WarheadsSE | taps screen |
| 15:00.41 | tristezo2k | SOorry, The one you pointed, the a10 media pc |
| 15:01.01 | tristezo2k | I used three days to make it work :) |
| 15:01.39 | tristezo2k | it presents itself as Board: A10-EVB at the serial console |
| 15:02.03 | RaYmAn | that string is hardcoded in uboot |
| 15:02.27 | RaYmAn | it also says that if I boot hno's u-boot on my a13 tablet :P |
| 15:02.54 | tristezo2k | sorry, it has been three days learning how to make this things work too |
| 15:02.59 | tristezo2k | starting from 0 :P |
| 15:03.15 | RaYmAn | serial console helps a lot =P |
| 15:03.49 | tristezo2k | this is the complete boot sequence on serial |
| 15:03.50 | tristezo2k | http://pastebin.com/bAaPnqGR |
| 15:06.22 | tristezo2k | I had to extract the script.bin from the original android, and put it along the debian it is now running to make spdif work. |
| 15:07.37 | WarheadsSE | mm, yeah, 1 bank of 512 |
| 15:08.02 | WarheadsSE | the A721 LY-F1 A10 tablet seems to be 2 banks of 256 |
| 15:08.17 | WarheadsSE | doesn't init right, takes a massive crapola |
| 15:08.46 | WarheadsSE | Would be nice if you add it's bin converted to fex to the wiki or somewhere. |
| 15:08.56 | tristezo2k | ok |
| 15:09.31 | WarheadsSE | I'll need to do that when I get time to actually futz with the gooseberry |
| 15:09.42 | tristezo2k | on which oage? |
| 15:09.44 | tristezo2k | page? |
| 15:09.47 | tristezo2k | http://linux-sunxi.org/Main_Page ? |
| 15:09.54 | WarheadsSE | tristezo2k: idk |
| 15:11.11 | tristezo2k | idk ? |
| 15:11.17 | WarheadsSE | if anyone ever wants to send ne of these to an Arch Linux ARM dev, we'll make it happy ... https://www.miniand.com/products/Hackberry%20A10%20Developer%20Board |
| 15:15.12 | hno | tristezo2k, mnemoc collects bin files for various devices. |
| 15:16.22 | tristezo2k | mnemoc? looks like menmonics :) |
| 15:19.00 | tristezo2k | mnemonics, sorry, ok it is here http://pastebin.com/a7NTDWP9 |
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| 16:13.06 | RaYmAn | hno: oh, btw. Before I booted kernel directly, I was using u-boot, halted at serial. U-boot loaded over fel that is. might be able to get more info on what breaks that way? |
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| 16:21.03 | o00owooto00o | Hi, anyone around to give some assistance? A10 tablet, flashing CM10 - was advised i need to increase /system size, however not told what ROM would allow me to do this... any help would be great |
| 16:21.11 | o00owooto00o | ly-f1 tablet |
| 16:29.39 | Turl | o00owooto00o: no ROM will let you repartition as far as I'm aware |
| 16:32.06 | hno | o00owooto00o, best way to repartition is to have a livesuite image with suitable partitioning, and select for format the flash when running livesuite. |
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| 16:41.02 | Turl | if you don't want to livesuite you can use a super ultra fresh recovery built by yourself with the latest amery kernel + something like http://turl.linux-sunxi.org/repartition-zatab-jb.zip |
| 16:41.10 | Turl | adjust the size of the partitions on the script |
| 16:41.24 | Turl | then format data & system and reflash your rom of choice |
| 16:50.02 | o00owooto00o | okay. i dont mine livsuite. just dont know what img has the right system size |
| 16:50.59 | furan | wish I could get this nand upgrade working |
| 16:51.18 | furan | livesuit flashes now, and it takes a lot longer since the chip is much larger |
| 16:51.22 | furan | but brom reboots into fel |
| 16:51.30 | furan | which makes me wonder if brom has supported nand hardcoded |
| 16:51.39 | furan | otherwise I am not sure how it is able to read the first page |
| 16:52.12 | furan | I guess if I can get everything working I could have an sd card with u-boot on it that jumps to u-boot on the nand |
| 16:53.10 | furan | yeah I should try to get sd card boot working today |
| 16:54.30 | hno | RaYmAn, test1 + u-boot.bin over fel? |
| 16:55.13 | Boulet | in the USB branch of u-boot, there is a fastboot.c |
| 16:55.34 | Boulet | with it is it possible to load a kernel via usb without flashing it ? |
| 16:56.57 | o00owooto00o | Turl any idea where to get an IMG with bigger /system ? |
| 16:57.10 | Boulet | it should be possible to boot everything without flashing isn't it ? |
| 16:57.49 | Boulet | maybe load test1, come back to fel, load the kernel to DDR3 via fel, load u-boot and u-boot executes kernel ? |
| 17:00.38 | hno | Boulet, no idea. It's a pretty mutilated fastboot. |
| 17:01.13 | hno | Boulet, there is also the option of loading kernel over serial. No hacks needed |
| 17:01.31 | Boulet | serial, you mean UART ? gosh... |
| 17:01.37 | hno | yes |
| 17:01.39 | Boulet | i am not sure i have that patience ... |
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| 17:02.49 | furan | I should also figure out the uart... |
| 17:05.15 | hno | Boulet, it's only 5min for the kernel. |
| 17:05.46 | Boulet | right but would be 5sec by fel ;) |
| 17:05.54 | furan | btw does brom/fel output anything over uart? |
| 17:05.58 | Boulet | as long as we tell u-boot to just execute and not load anything |
| 17:06.04 | hno | furan, no |
| 17:06.07 | furan | ok |
| 17:07.34 | hno | Boulet, you can't fel to u-boot. You would need to fel copy the kernel before starting uboot |
| 17:07.49 | hno | but then, why uboot? |
| 17:07.57 | Boulet | yes, that's what i said :) |
| 17:08.17 | Boulet | hno, right, why uboot .... |
| 17:08.43 | Turl | o00owooto00o: I'm not aware of any in existence |
| 17:08.49 | furan | another question, when I look at the boot partition, linux.ini references u-boot, but where does u-boot decide to boot from nand? is it hardcoded? |
| 17:09.11 | furan | (e.g. there is no boot.scr or whatever0 |
| 17:09.16 | hno | o00owooto00o, easy t build one from the SDK. |
| 17:13.05 | hno | furan, ther is both a default environment, and an environment partition in the nand. |
| 17:13.45 | hno | furan, halt u-boot and then printenv to see how yours is configured. |
| 17:13.59 | hno | requires uart. |
| 17:16.01 | o00owooto00o | hno... not sure how to do it? Turl gave me this link. http://turl.linux-sunxi.org/repartition-zatab-jb.zip but not sure what to do |
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| 17:49.14 | hno | o00owooto00o, get an A10 Android SDK. edit the fex with your desired partitioning. Build. flash with livesuit |
| 17:50.14 | hno | then flash again with the rom you want to use |
| 17:58.01 | o00owooto00o | A10 SDK? from android website? not sure where? |
| 17:59.54 | RaYmAn | hno: yeah - it seemed to work fine here... with u-boot.bin :) Just load it at same address as boot1 does (e..g linux.ini thing) |
| 18:07.22 | furan | thanks hno |
| 18:07.33 | furan | I just killed a board by ripping a pad |
| 18:07.47 | furan | just got a microscope for soldering and ordered finer tips |
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| 18:33.18 | hno | furan, get a board with an uart header, there is two known ones. Or do the SD breakout trick. |
| 18:35.04 | furan | in this case it was nand flash pad |
| 18:35.17 | furan | I am normally good at smt, just been a few years |
| 18:35.37 | furan | basically I am working on having a 64gb nand flash allwinner device |
| 18:36.00 | furan | but I can use mk802 to get it working |
| 18:36.20 | furan | so going to solder a tsop socket on the mk802 board and use the well-known uart pads on it |
| 18:36.36 | hno | is an smt novice. Components had 2.54mm spacing when I did most my soldering. |
| 18:36.46 | tristezo2k | :) |
| 18:43.16 | hno | those 0805 sized resistor mats with 4 resistors each on the A13 Olinuxino board looks scary to solder with a solder iron. |
| 18:44.53 | tristezo2k | there is a technique... you just put solder on all legs and then remove what shouldn´t be there |
| 18:45.33 | L84Supper | i didn't know that tubes had smt pads :) |
| 18:47.18 | hno | tristezo2k, Yes, learnt that the hard way yesterday in a little accident while soldering leads to a 1206 sized mat nearby.. |
| 18:50.53 | tristezo2k | learning the hard way is mostly the only way :) |
| 18:51.40 | L84Supper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uiroWBkdFY SOIC QFP etc is not to hard to get the hang of |
| 18:52.25 | furan | tristezo2k: yeah I use that |
| 18:54.42 | L84Supper | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NN7UGWYmBY checkout 0603 howto @ 1:50 |
| 18:55.25 | hno | RaYmAn, looking at the JTAG page. you say one should connect nTRST and nRESET to GND? |
| 18:56.32 | RaYmAn | hno: no, sorry. I'm saying if you use the microsd breakout, they are connected to that |
| 18:57.17 | hno | L84Supper, the 0603 resistor mat is 4 resistors in 0603 package. Each resistor i like 0402 |
| 18:57.44 | RaYmAn | In practice I'm only connecting TDI,TDO,TMS,TCK, GND and VDD |
| 18:58.23 | hno | By VDD you mean Vref to the probe I? |
| 18:58.30 | RaYmAn | I guess |
| 18:58.43 | RaYmAn | it's called VTG on the jtag pinouts I've seen |
| 18:58.50 | hno | The same. |
| 18:58.59 | hno | target voltage reference |
| 18:59.03 | RaYmAn | okay |
| 18:59.19 | RaYmAn | http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0499e/BEHEIDDH.html |
| 18:59.22 | RaYmAn | I see :) |
| 18:59.27 | RaYmAn | I guess that explains why it wasn't working without :P |
| 18:59.46 | L84Supper | hno: you'll get the hang of it, it takes a steady hand but I've been able to fix routing mistakes in proto's even under BGA's |
| 18:59.57 | RaYmAn | I really had very little clue about JTAG before I started on this :P |
| 19:01.33 | hno | L84Supper, under? How do one do that? |
| 19:02.16 | hno | desolder the BGA, rework the board, resolder? |
| 19:03.21 | L84Supper | hno: pretty much :) cut trace, drill hole etc, solder 40 ga wire, reball resolder |
| 19:04.28 | L84Supper | there are a few youtube vids on howto |
| 19:06.22 | hno | L84Supper, do that wire fit under the BGA? |
| 19:08.01 | L84Supper | hno: yeah, it's tight, 40 ga is ~0.003" (0.08mm) dia + 10um of enamel insulation |
| 19:09.40 | L84Supper | hno: you can get even finer wire, they use <25um dia wire for wire bonding inside BGA packages to the die |
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| 23:23.25 | WarheadsSE | split of the A10 stuff in the Arch Linux ARM forums |
| 23:23.31 | WarheadsSE | I suppose it is about time. |
