IRC log for #arm-netbook on 20120804

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07:15.55hipboi_WarheadsSE: i tried the arch
07:16.18hipboi_i got INIT: Id "s0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes
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07:56.48hipboi_Turl: ping
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10:20.06mnemochipboi_: hi, do you know if there is something one (kernel) can read to know if certain CPU is an A10, A12, A13... ?
10:22.50hipboi_as far as i know,
10:22.54hipboi_no...
10:22.59hipboi_i have complained this
10:29.02mnemoc:(
10:30.03specingA12?
10:30.12specingThere is A12?
10:33.32mnemocthe a12_defconfig is a13+hdmi
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11:55.02hnomnemoc, do we have an pinoutes for the a13 boards?
11:58.23hnofound it. https://raw.github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUXINO/master/HARDWARE/A13-OLinuXino/A13-OLinuXino_Rev_A.sch.pdf
11:58.49mnemoc:)
12:00.12hnoand notices not all of PF is available on pins.
12:00.35hnodo not have a uSD breakout
12:01.02mnemocuhm.. he said there will be an uart on the "uext" connector
12:01.48hnoYes, those 2 are on the UART pins. But I plan to attempt to JTAG it and need the other pins..
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12:07.45mnemocnot having all pins for jtag in the only A13 dev board sounds like a bit #fail :<
12:07.52mnemocs/bit/big/
12:08.53mnemocRaYmAn bought a cheap uSD breakout from dealextreme but I can't find the picture or link now
12:09.14RaYmAnhttp://www.dealextreme.com/p/sd-to-microsd-transflash-card-converter-module-27001
12:10.16mnemocthanks :)
12:10.24RaYmAnyou can easily detach the top part of the SD socket, so you get "springs" where a standard jumper cable work ok
12:10.41RaYmAnit's nowhere near as nice as the 'real' uSD breakout though
12:19.17CIA-121rhombus-tech: webwombat master * r51f4bdbbb8b3 /allwinner_a10/orders/webwombat.mdwn:
12:28.13mnemocbut for a fraction of the final cost sparkfun's
12:47.33Turlhipboi: pong
12:48.28Turlmnemoc: shouldn't bootloader tell you machine number?
12:48.45TurlScepterr: ping
12:51.15mnemocTurl: yes, but it was about merging mach-sun4i and mach-sun5i
12:51.45mnemocin which case the machine number would be the same
12:52.10Turlso, they used the same mach # for two diff hw? :|
12:54.29Turlmnemoc: maybe you can do black magic with brom code if they're not identical
12:55.53mnemocthere is tons of work to do in plat-sunxi before thinking in merging both mach- anyway
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12:59.40zoobab_hello from my a10 tablet
13:00.11zoobab_trying to find a decent telminal app for android
13:00.26zoobab_connectbot is not that cool to switch the fonts
13:00.57Turlzoobab_: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=jackpal.androidterm
13:05.55zoobab_and a command line ssh client, cause androidterm does not has one
13:07.25Turlzoobab_: dropbear
13:17.05zoobab_dropbear server wants root access
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13:30.19mnemocwhat a10-table doesn't come with `su` ?
13:35.23Turlzoobab_: and you wanted a client, why would you run dropbear server? o.O
13:37.49zoobab_su is present in /system/bin/busybox but no way to find a path to make a symlink
13:39.08zoobab_and the sdcard is mounted with noexec
13:39.39mnemocfrom a terminal, use bb's su, the bb's mount to remount /system as rw, then make your symlink
13:39.46mnemocand the remount /system as ro
13:39.53mnemocthen*
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14:00.01hnoTurl, sunxi kernels ignores what bootloader says.
14:01.52hnomachine id is is hardcoded in kernel/head.S
14:12.47hnomnemoc, A13 do not officiially have JTAG, or even debug uart...
14:14.32mnemochno: :<
14:15.25hnoIn same spirit as the SDK do not include arc/mach-sun5i/ sources.
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15:23.46bobbiotarget SharedLib: bluetooth-health (out/target/product/zatab/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/bluetooth-health_intermediates/LINKED/bluetooth-health.so)
15:23.48bobbiotarget SharedLib: input (out/target/product/zatab/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/input_intermediates/LINKED/input.so)
15:23.48bobbiotarget SharedLib: network (out/target/product/zatab/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/network_intermediates/LINKED/network.so)
15:23.48bobbiotarget Strip: audio.primary.sun4i (out/target/product/zatab/obj/lib/audio.primary.sun4i.so)
15:23.50bobbiotarget Strip: libdrm1_jni (out/target/product/zatab/obj/lib/libdrm1_jni.so)
15:23.53bobbiotarget Strip: libexif (out/target/product/zatab/obj/lib/libexif.so)
15:23.57bobbiocollect2: ld 以信号 9 [已杀死] 退出。
15:24.00bobbiomake: *** [out/host/linux-x86/obj/EXECUTABLES/clang_intermediates/clang] 错误 1
15:24.03bobbiomake: *** 正在等待未完成的任务....
15:24.07bobbiotrue
15:26.18TurlI cannot read chinese, but you have a problem linking clang
15:26.29Turl(is that chinese?)
15:28.28bobbioyes. The error was reported when I was compiling the anrdoid4.0 with ics branch. Have anyone met with this issue ?
15:28.31specingwhois says so
15:28.53Turlbobbio: what do the chinese symbols say?
15:29.03Turland how much ram do you have?
15:29.07bobbiokilled by signal 9
15:29.16specinglol
15:29.19Turlbobbio: you probably have too little ram
15:29.22Turlgetting OOM'd
15:29.25Turlclam is huge :)
15:29.30Turlclang*
15:30.08bobbioMy compiling notebook has 2GiB ram
15:30.23Turlyeah, it's not a lot
15:30.27TurlI bet you don't have swap :)
15:30.35Turladd swap, and close any apps you're not using
15:30.37bobbiono swap
15:31.36TurlI don't recall exactly, but I'm pretty confident you need >1G to link clang alone
15:34.56bobbioquery Turl
15:35.12Turlmissing a / bobbio? :)
15:39.39WarheadsSEhipboi_: oops, looks like i forgot to edit a setting. I'll fix that.
15:50.43hipboi_WarheadsSE: ok
15:57.38WarheadsSEShould be S0, so I have a feeling I botched converting the omap rootfs :)
15:58.01hipboi_ok, i will change myself
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16:09.18WarheadsSEhipboi_: etc/inittab & etc/securetty
16:09.23WarheadsSEchange tty)2 to S0
16:09.27WarheadsSE*O2
16:09.31ScepterrTurl: pong
16:10.47Scepterrfound  a demo of somebody using a wusb dongle on an android tablet
16:10.55Scepterrnow just need to find the drivers/sw ;/
16:18.37WarheadsSEhipboi_: fixed for future downloaders :)
16:19.04TurlScepterr: you wanted CM for A10? http://linux-sunxi.org/Starting_a_CyanogenMod_device_tree
16:24.18Scepterrawesome
16:24.27Scepterrwhats not working
16:28.56mnemocTurl: what about reworking the tutorial to encourage sharing by starting with a github fork of the example repo?
16:33.37TurlScepterr: on cm9 it's pretty much all working
16:33.58Turlthe cam app has some layout glitch, the overlay covers part of the controls, but it works
16:34.58RaYmAnhno: hmm..the functional block diagram for A13 seems to mention JTAG
16:36.19hipboi_WarheadsSE: thanks
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17:20.05ScepterrTurl: didnt tablets have that issue before ?
17:20.46TurlScepterr: idk
17:21.01TurlScepterr: my layout-fu is very poor though, couldn't get it displaying nicely
17:21.29Scepterrmeh couldnt care less about cam :p
17:21.38Turlyeah same :P
17:22.27Turland cedar doesn't like being fed with content:// uris, so stuff like tapping videos on gallery won't play them
17:22.44Turlyou need to use something that sends full filesystem paths, eg a file manager
17:23.07Scepterrare you using 3rd party video players or just the oem one ?
17:23.10Turl(cedar is A10's stagefright replacement >.< Y U NO OMX >.<)
17:23.21Turlthe CM one works
17:23.35Scepterrgoogle stock Video Player ?
17:23.40Turlif you feed it a full path (file:///sdcard/..) instead of a content:// uri
17:23.50Turlidk, the aosp one, part of gallery is it?
17:23.55Scepterryah
17:24.05Scepterrdoes hw decode
17:24.06Scepterr?
17:24.09Turlyeah
17:24.25Turlif you send a content uri it says it cannot open the stuff and doesn't play at all
17:24.26Scepterrwierd could only get sw decoding on mc player
17:24.28Scepterrmx player*
17:24.35Scepterrplaying 720/1080 ?
17:24.37Turlyeah because mx player and all those use omx
17:24.47Turlthere's no OMX here
17:25.10Turland yeah last I checked 720p played fine
17:25.15Scepterrwierdness
17:25.26Turlover cifs :)
17:25.34Scepterryah i was playing 1080p bluray over dlna yesterday
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17:27.11Turlhey gimli :)
17:29.36gimlihi
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17:35.10Turlgimli: any news from allwinner on cedar?
17:35.23gimlinope
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19:46.26hnoRaYmAn, yes, but the pinout nor reference schematics does.
19:47.18RaYmAnyeah :/
19:47.28hnoThe only mention of JTAG in the datascheet is in the block diagram.
19:47.29RaYmAndid you ever get it working on any a10 device?
19:47.53hnos/sc/s/
19:48.44RaYmAnAs far as I understand, at boot, microsd 0 pins are set to JTAG (and then changed by boot0 or later to sd)
19:48.46hnoHave not tried seriously yet. Will look into it in more detail when back from vacation.
19:48.49RaYmAnor bootrom, not sure
19:48.52RaYmAnokay
19:49.15hnoRaYmAn, yes, seems so. And on A10 there is also a second JTAG port.
19:49.37hnos/second/other/
19:49.47hnothe SD one is the second..
19:49.55RaYmAnJTAG seems a bit useless if you have to pinmux it first :P but might just be me - I'm not very familiar with JTAG
19:50.32hnoOn A10 there is also two JTAG port select pins with unknown function.
19:51.05RaYmAnah, hm
20:00.02hnoJTAG_SEL0/1, JTAG port Select bit0/1. Pin R8,R9.
20:06.58RaYmAnI guess it selects jtag port ;P
20:14.29hnoThat's quite likely yes.
20:15.58hnoHm.. R8 is defined as NC and R9 as VDD PWR. Confusing.
20:16.47hnoBut that's the datasheet, which is mostly for show and not a reference.
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20:19.08rz2kI have dead ly-f1, I can check jtag_sel trace if you need.
20:19.14rz2khno: ^
20:19.32rz2k(I mean I can desolder A10 and trace whats happening)
20:22.58hnoMost likely wired with R8 NC and R9 VDD. Which would select JTAG Port #1 if our guesses are right.
20:24.21hnoWould be interesting to wire R8 to VDD and see what happens. But it's a little harder.
20:25.12RaYmAndo we have schematics for any a10 device?
20:28.38phhgroumpf, my H24/MiniX's /data partition is dead (can't really tell what precisely), i tried to make a usb male male cable, it didn't work (not detected), i tried erasing data, didn't work either, any idea on how to fix that ? :)
20:29.45phhi just need a damn shell, but i can't install any app /o\
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20:33.00hnoAt least two public ones. EOMA68 module and the FCC one linked from http://www.rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/pcb/
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20:34.21hnoHmm.. in the FCC schematics R8 & N8 is listed as SDBG0, SDBG1, and not connected.
20:40.43hnoSDBG0/1 do not exists in the datasheet pinout.
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21:47.17Turlphh: adb? :)
21:47.33phhTurl: cf what i said about male male :D
21:47.43phhH24 has only an otg male port +  usb host port
21:47.54phhno mini/micro usb
21:48.04Turlphh: yeah it's inside the mele
21:48.05Turla header
21:48.23phhTurl: it's not a mele, it doesn't have any header accessible
21:48.28phhwell i'll give it another look in case.
21:48.49Turlah confused male with mele >.<
21:49.48phhah
21:50.21Turlyou could make a sophisticated SD card that booted linux and ran a custom script :P
21:50.39Turlall a10 devices prefer booting from SD instead of internal nand
21:51.31phhwell i don't need "a custom script"
21:51.35phhi just need any linux
21:52.06phhbut i tried mk802 image
21:52.09phhwithout much success
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