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| 01:22.07 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi_: were you ever able to figure out the F10 charging cable confusion? |
| 01:22.23 | hipboi_ | no |
| 01:23.43 | hipboi_ | DonkeyHotei: can you look at this picture |
| 01:23.43 | hipboi_ | http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/583304547-Smallart-Uhost-mini-pc-Allwinner-A10-hackable-device-wholesalers.html |
| 01:23.54 | hipboi_ | the last one |
| 01:24.09 | hipboi_ | it's the picture of the usb port |
| 01:25.08 | DonkeyHotei | yes, that looks like the same connector as on the F10 |
| 01:25.23 | DonkeyHotei | the included cable has a different connector |
| 01:32.56 | hipboi_ | intresting, it works with mini usb cable |
| 01:33.13 | WarheadsSE | arg. |
| 01:33.21 | WarheadsSE | X aborts.. the hell. |
| 01:33.44 | WarheadsSE | These Mali drivers are annoying hipboi_ |
| 01:34.08 | hipboi_ | WarheadsSE: yes, i think so |
| 01:34.16 | WarheadsSE | Otherwise, we should have an offical set of instructions for the Mele's soon. |
| 01:34.26 | WarheadsSE | Gooseberry is being a pita though. |
| 01:34.42 | WarheadsSE | I just had this thing working too .. |
| 01:37.14 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi_: mini usb connectors are different. that is not a standard mini usb connector. the included cable is standard mini usb and does not fit |
| 01:44.38 | hipboi_ | DonkeyHotei: i can plug a mini usb cable into that port |
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| 01:45.28 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi_: i tried, does not fit |
| 01:47.48 | hipboi_ | strange |
| 01:47.56 | hipboi_ | let me take a picture for you |
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| 01:50.41 | WarheadsSE | root |
| 01:50.56 | WarheadsSE | :p |
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| 01:57.39 | Turl | hipboi_: you pinged? |
| 01:57.54 | lundman | poonnnggg |
| 01:58.50 | hipboi_ | Turl: no |
| 01:59.00 | lundman | pong denied |
| 01:59.26 | Turl | must've been a really old ping then :) |
| 02:06.33 | hipboi_ | http://picpaste.com/tmp-r60Hei8d.jpg |
| 02:06.39 | hipboi_ | can anyone make sure what are the two usb port? |
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| 02:07.40 | hipboi_ | <DonkeyHotei>: for me, the two ports in the pic fits |
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| 02:08.04 | WarheadsSE | Probably fit, but not identical |
| 02:08.44 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi_: those are the two i mean, and they do not fit at all |
| 02:09.01 | WarheadsSE | although looking at it, its almost like they just didnt crimp it |
| 02:09.26 | hipboi_ | but they do work if i plug one into another |
| 02:09.37 | DonkeyHotei | wait, i was connecting upside down all along |
| 02:09.44 | DonkeyHotei | *facepalm* |
| 02:09.54 | WarheadsSE | 0.o |
| 02:09.56 | Turl | really? |
| 02:09.59 | hipboi_ | -_-!! |
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| 02:10.03 | WarheadsSE | whiff |
| 02:10.37 | hipboi_ | <DonkeyHotei>: this bothered you many days.. |
| 02:10.42 | DonkeyHotei | yes |
| 02:11.02 | Turl | http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/nn90/MoutainFork/FACEPALM.png |
| 02:17.09 | lundman | http://marks.dk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/slow-clap.gif |
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| 02:26.54 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi: the only remaining issue is that i'm still going to need the usm-sata sleeve |
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| 02:34.48 | hipboi | DonkeyHotei: no problem |
| 02:35.13 | hipboi | DonkeyHotei: i have some remaining, i can send you one |
| 02:38.14 | DonkeyHotei | would this be the simple sleeve from the A1000, or the one that mele sells separately? |
| 02:39.35 | WarheadsSE | arg.. why the hell.. |
| 02:39.39 | WarheadsSE | stupid X |
| 02:39.48 | DonkeyHotei | WarheadsSE: ? |
| 02:40.00 | hipboi | DonkeyHotei: simple one |
| 02:40.11 | WarheadsSE | I had X11 & hdmi working a few days ago. now X just aborts? |
| 02:40.54 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi: that should be fine; less hassle. do you want me to paypal you directly? |
| 02:41.24 | hipboi | DonkeyHotei: pay me 4 bucks shipping cost is ok |
| 02:41.53 | DonkeyHotei | is USD ok? |
| 02:42.07 | hipboi | ok |
| 02:43.24 | DonkeyHotei | aliexpress charged my card directly without paypal, giving an amount in USD, and that was the exact amount charged to my card PLUS a separate currency conversion fee. wtf... |
| 02:46.14 | WarheadsSE | and. of course not it works?! grr. |
| 02:47.13 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi: sent |
| 02:47.49 | DonkeyHotei | WarheadsSE: i followed these instructions: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/nightly_build_images/ |
| 02:48.03 | DonkeyHotei | but X11 is stuck on fbdev |
| 02:48.16 | WarheadsSE | Yeah, my issue was that it magically *stopped* then *started again* |
| 02:48.41 | DonkeyHotei | i don't think it's supposed to be on fbdev |
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| 03:14.11 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi: received? |
| 03:14.21 | hipboi | DonkeyHotei: yes |
| 03:14.39 | hipboi | i will send in two or three days |
| 03:14.43 | DonkeyHotei | thanx |
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| 03:22.56 | DonkeyHotei | WarheadsSE: did you ever get it to NOT use fbdev? |
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| 05:01.55 | Turl | hey gimli |
| 05:03.13 | lundman | and my axe! |
| 05:04.23 | DonkeyHotei | so, about X11... |
| 05:15.39 | gimli | hi Turl |
| 05:16.11 | Turl | gimli: I saw allwinner pledged to support xbmc? :) |
| 05:18.37 | DonkeyHotei | on stock GB i tried an app that streams using flash and vitamio, opting for the ARMv7+NEON variant. video was very sluggish; no CedarX :( |
| 05:20.09 | Turl | armv7 + neon is not enough for HQ stuff |
| 05:23.56 | DonkeyHotei | yeah, but that was the most suitable vitamio plugin in the play store |
| 05:24.31 | gimli | Turl: yes. i'm off to work. cu |
| 05:24.42 | lundman | you work for us now. |
| 05:24.53 | Turl | I'm pretty much off to sleep :p |
| 05:29.19 | lundman | I'm still at work! |
| 05:29.25 | ZaEarl | DonkeyHotei, http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/ has a nice variety of test clips. |
| 05:37.34 | DonkeyHotei | but those are files |
| 05:38.23 | DonkeyHotei | there are a number of play store apps that stream using flash and the vitamio codec plugin |
| 05:38.44 | DonkeyHotei | anywho, back to gnu/linux |
| 05:39.03 | DonkeyHotei | who got X11 working with anything but fbdev? |
| 06:07.53 | rz2k | 9:50 <thefrog> rz2k are you cross compling ? |
| 06:07.55 | rz2k | yep |
| 06:08.05 | rz2k | renesas emma ev2 is dual core cortex a9 |
| 06:08.19 | rz2k | with powervr sgx-something inside |
| 06:08.52 | rz2k | I just had this tablet laying around for some time, then guy from forum sent me email of guy from China who actually designed this tablet |
| 06:09.12 | lundman | anything for me to help with |
| 06:10.47 | rz2k | ? you work with renesas stuff? |
| 06:12.00 | rz2k | 23:11 <steev> rz2k: wrt errata, just turn it all on, if it doesn't apply the kernel doesn't actually enable it |
| 06:12.24 | rz2k | I didnt understand that, what wrt means here? |
| 06:13.44 | DonkeyHotei | with regard to |
| 06:14.07 | rz2k | thanks DonkeyHotei |
| 06:23.39 | steev | Indeed |
| 06:23.56 | steev | Sorry, I've been really enjoying my nexus 7 |
| 06:24.49 | steev | Still use my mid970 for schematics though, they just don't look good at 7" and there is too much panning |
| 06:39.36 | orly_owl | is that the news 7" tablet that google stopped taking orders for |
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| 07:07.37 | DonkeyHotei | so, what's the deal with fbdev? |
| 07:25.23 | rm | fbdev just works (tm) |
| 07:25.29 | rm | but not on DisplayLink (tm) |
| 07:25.57 | rm | (the latter is contrary to my expectations) |
| 07:27.17 | DonkeyHotei | shouldn't there be some sort of more accelerated driver? |
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| 07:30.42 | rm | mali |
| 07:30.56 | rm | which almost almost almost works |
| 07:31.08 | orly_owl | X works on hdmi and displaylink? |
| 07:31.11 | rm | and afaik someone even got it to work |
| 07:31.49 | rm | orly_owl, the DisplayLink I use is just a third-party USB dongle |
| 07:31.58 | orly_owl | mhm |
| 07:32.07 | rm | but yeah, X.org should be able to use both the HDMI and that dongle |
| 07:32.12 | orly_owl | ok |
| 07:32.16 | rm | for a dual monitor setup |
| 07:32.34 | orly_owl | can you play video on both at the same time? |
| 07:32.38 | orly_owl | stress test it |
| 07:33.06 | rm | not sure about displaylink, but fbdev can't play videos at all, afaik |
| 07:33.12 | rm | or at 3-5 FPS |
| 07:33.16 | rm | did not try actually |
| 07:33.56 | orly_owl | let us know the results |
| 07:34.20 | DonkeyHotei | how do i get X to use mali? |
| 07:35.33 | rm | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/Compile_X11_driver_for_A10/ |
| 07:36.35 | DonkeyHotei | i followed these instructions: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/nightly_build_images/ |
| 07:38.34 | rm | these are for kernel, and the previous is for the X11 driver |
| 07:48.12 | DonkeyHotei | ah. is there no precompiled X11 driver anywhere? |
| 08:00.23 | hno | DonkeyHotei, not yet. |
| 08:03.52 | DonkeyHotei | then i will have to compile when i am more awake; it's after 1am |
| 08:28.44 | hno | video & mali is separate issues. |
| 08:31.50 | rm | well, if you'd get DRI and Xv with Mali |
| 08:32.04 | rm | you wouldn't need Cedar for some simple videos (SD) |
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| 09:26.36 | phh | [20:58:23] <rz2k> damn, I just got weirdest issue that I've ever seen. I have renesas emma ev2 device (tablet) that doesnt accept any kernels that is build with anything except codesourcery 2009 releases (4.4 gcc) <----- usually it's more something like a poorly coded driver, who does some assumption on the compiler, which he shouldn't do |
| 09:26.42 | phh | perhaps try building with O0 |
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| 09:38.53 | sspiff | anyone know why "make: *** No rule to make target `out/target/product/mk802/obj/lib/libMali.so', needed by `out/target/product/mk802/obj/SHARED_LIBRARIES/gralloc.sun4i_intermediates/LINKED/gralloc.sun4i.so'. Stop." would happen, if I have libMali.so in vendor/allwinner/mk802/proprietary/lib/? |
| 09:40.40 | hipboi | you need to pull the libs from your device with adb |
| 09:42.00 | sspiff | I can't, but I put all the required files in vendor/allwinner/mk802/proprietary |
| 09:42.21 | sspiff | I cant connect the device to my build server... |
| 09:43.11 | hipboi | then you need mkdir and put the lib in the build server |
| 09:43.36 | sspiff | I did, but I put them in a lib subfolder, and that seems to be the problem |
| 09:43.38 | sspiff | my bad! |
| 09:45.59 | hipboi | you can run that script first |
| 09:46.08 | hipboi | that will create the folders |
| 09:46.17 | hipboi | and failed because can not use adb |
| 09:46.39 | hipboi | then you can put the libs into the right folder |
| 09:49.16 | ZaEarl | hipboi, do you know what redistribution license those files are under? |
| 09:49.41 | hipboi | the mali lib? |
| 09:49.57 | hno | hi hipboi |
| 09:49.59 | ZaEarl | those and the allwinner-ril |
| 09:50.32 | hipboi | i am not sure |
| 09:50.36 | hipboi | i need to ask |
| 09:50.59 | ZaEarl | I don't know if they come from allwinner or arm. |
| 10:00.49 | sspiff | hipboi: who would you ask? |
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| 10:24.53 | hipboi | ZaEarl: allwinner-ril is from allwinner |
| 10:24.57 | hipboi | of course |
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| 10:28.42 | ZaEarl | is there a license with it? |
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| 10:41.31 | hipboi | ZaEarl: i think the license is it can only be used on allwinner devices |
| 10:47.29 | RaYmAn | hipboi: you familiar with the script.fex port:powerXYZ GPIO config that seems to be used on A13? |
| 10:47.57 | hipboi | not very familiar |
| 10:48.01 | hipboi | but why? |
| 10:48.08 | RaYmAn | I mean, port:power0 to port:power3 is fairly obvious - e.g. the four gpios on the PMU |
| 10:48.40 | hipboi | so? |
| 10:48.48 | RaYmAn | we stumbled upon a definition of port:power203 which is a bit harder to guess what means |
| 10:49.22 | RaYmAn | So i guess the question was if you had any clue what that would refer to :) |
| 10:49.33 | hipboi | ok |
| 10:49.45 | hipboi | just a minute |
| 10:50.47 | RaYmAn | I got a couple of A13 devices that uses the port:power syntax, so mnemoc and I were discussing adding support for it in the open source kernel |
| 10:51.22 | hipboi | sorry |
| 10:51.32 | hipboi | i need to go home now |
| 10:51.35 | RaYmAn | np :) |
| 10:51.41 | hipboi | i will look at it an hour later |
| 10:52.16 | RaYmAn | No rush :) Just figured I'd poke you about it as you seemed like the best bet for an answer :) |
| 10:59.41 | mnemoc | :) |
| 11:06.18 | RaYmAn | I'm still not convinced it's intended (the 203) ;) |
| 11:09.36 | mnemoc | hopefully |
| 11:14.39 | RaYmAn | I'm puzzled at the gpio implementationm tbh |
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| 11:20.08 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: It needs to be reimplemented |
| 11:20.42 | mnemoc | using gpiolib and all that jazz |
| 11:20.58 | RaYmAn | yeah |
| 11:21.12 | mnemoc | upstream won't accept another ad-hoc implementation |
| 11:22.28 | RaYmAn | I doubt they'd accept the script.bin implementation either :P |
| 11:22.34 | mnemoc | there is some cleanup-fail in the wip/3.4/plat branch. but haven't touched the gpio part of sys_config.c yet |
| 11:23.11 | mnemoc | right, so the cleanup needs to "align" with dt, so the final step is easier |
| 11:23.23 | RaYmAn | I'm thinking it makes sense to reimplement gpio as gpiolib based, and also add gpiolib based GPIO's to axp20 driver. This is how the usual PMU's expose gpios |
| 11:23.43 | mnemoc | yes, that's the right way |
| 11:24.04 | mnemoc | back in 15m |
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| 12:38.22 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * raaf78c82cefb /allwinner_a10/ (news.html news/titoma.eoma68.1.png): news update, titoma design |
| 12:45.20 | WarheadsSE | is back |
| 12:45.42 | WarheadsSE | DonkeyHotei: I had X11 working, with the complete stack of stuff from the X11 instructions |
| 13:04.26 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r3d81fb6e7aa4 /allwinner_a10/news.html: news update, titoma design |
| 13:06.14 | mnemoc | news~ |
| 13:06.16 | mnemoc | news! |
| 13:09.10 | WarheadsSE | cute |
| 13:09.25 | WarheadsSE | Looks like a pmcia |
| 13:10.01 | mnemoc | that's the form factor of eoma68 modules |
| 13:10.31 | WarheadsSE | Yeah |
| 13:13.14 | WarheadsSE | mnemoc: any thoughts on why X11 magically aborts on me? |
| 13:13.43 | mnemoc | OOM? |
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| 13:37.44 | WarheadsSE | Hmm |
| 13:37.47 | WarheadsSE | its possible.. |
| 13:40.26 | WarheadsSE | It's off at the moment |
| 13:41.33 | WarheadsSE | (and I am not near it..) |
| 13:41.44 | WarheadsSE | I suppose I could put swap somehwere and try again |
| 13:47.35 | mnemoc | in case of OOM you'll have a message of the kernel logs to confirm |
| 13:47.46 | mnemoc | on* |
| 13:47.53 | WarheadsSE | Yeah, odd part is it was working prior |
| 13:48.16 | mnemoc | wants a 1GB A10 dev board?! |
| 13:49.00 | WarheadsSE | also |
| 13:49.10 | mnemoc | s/..$/!!/ |
| 13:49.22 | mnemoc | slaps ibot |
| 13:49.49 | WarheadsSE | i dont think it likes your regex |
| 13:50.04 | WarheadsSE | s/regex/toldya/ |
| 13:50.42 | WarheadsSE | probably doing a de-taint preventing symbols |
| 13:50.52 | mnemoc | yup |
| 13:51.11 | mnemoc | slaps ibot anyway |
| 13:51.39 | WarheadsSE | I may have to rebuild my kernel to use fb=m |
| 13:51.43 | WarheadsSE | that could be a problem |
| 13:52.02 | mnemoc | fb can be y, but the LYCHEE_ things need to be m |
| 13:52.18 | mnemoc | because of the dependency on ump.ko |
| 13:53.41 | WarheadsSE | lychee_fb_ump_sun4i=y is built in, all other lychee = m |
| 13:54.11 | mnemoc | that's good |
| 13:54.19 | mnemoc | lychee_fb_ump_sun4i is a bool |
| 13:54.20 | WarheadsSE | https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/blob/master/core/linux-sun4i/config#L1736 |
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| 15:15.02 | hno | slaps ibot for ignoring /me expressions |
| 15:20.22 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 15:59.41 | WarheadsSE | von_fritz: hows it been working for you? |
| 15:59.56 | WarheadsSE | (aside from the video packages I need to find time to finish?) |
| 16:01.41 | von_fritz | WarheadsSE working what? |
| 16:06.29 | von_fritz | WarheadsSE I have told you that modprobe lcd gives segfault with archlinux linux-sun4i |
| 16:06.47 | WarheadsSE | Which I'm not sure why the hell that happens to you |
| 16:06.58 | WarheadsSE | I'm not having that occur, and can't replicate it |
| 16:08.38 | von_fritz | You have working X (fbdev) with linux-sun4i? |
| 16:09.10 | WarheadsSE | Its wonk on me again, I think my fex is misconfiged |
| 16:09.37 | WarheadsSE | But yes, but only after mali egl libs, UMP & x11 compiled against |
| 16:15.18 | von_fritz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:15.48 | WarheadsSE | Nope, I checked that was working. |
| 16:16.31 | WarheadsSE | You might need to bump your .bin to have screen0 @ 4 |
| 16:16.54 | WarheadsSE | alarm/sunxi-tools has bin2fex/fex2bin |
| 16:17.51 | traeak | i assume the bin2fex/fex2bin can be used to initialize the default hdmi resolution ? |
| 16:18.00 | traeak | or that's possible to do at runtime? |
| 16:22.03 | WarheadsSE | According to the Crane guide, it sets what it should be running at. |
| 16:22.18 | WarheadsSE | My attempts at changing the resolution @ runtime were.. flaky |
| 16:22.28 | traeak | uhoh, crane guide? |
| 16:22.41 | WarheadsSE | yeah, Crane fex guide |
| 16:23.04 | WarheadsSE | Have a look through this: https://raw.github.com/amery/sunxi-bin-archive/master/mele-a1000/sys_config1.evb.fex |
| 16:23.12 | WarheadsSE | ctrl-f disp_init |
| 16:23.26 | mnemoc | alarm/sunxi-tools? |
| 16:23.29 | WarheadsSE | screen0 output type & mode |
| 16:23.36 | WarheadsSE | just the repo its a part of |
| 16:23.37 | traeak | ahh sweet |
| 16:24.05 | traeak | too bad i expecgted to see 1920x1200 |
| 16:24.06 | WarheadsSE | mnemoc: https://github.com/archlinuxarm/PKGBUILDs/tree/master/alarm/sunxi-tools |
| 16:24.19 | mnemoc | WarheadsSE: ah, ok |
| 16:24.23 | WarheadsSE | traeak: if it is over hdmi, it just might, idk |
| 16:24.46 | WarheadsSE | I've made sure those are available on all arch's |
| 16:24.51 | mnemoc | WarheadsSE: i thought you meant "alarm/sunxi-tools" was your upstream |
| 16:24.55 | WarheadsSE | I suppose it might be useful to have in AUR .. |
| 16:25.12 | WarheadsSE | It's an archism |
| 16:25.18 | mnemoc | :) |
| 16:25.22 | WarheadsSE | core/linux-sun4i alarm/sunxi-tools |
| 16:25.54 | mnemoc | so you'll have a separated package for linux-sun5i ? |
| 16:26.03 | WarheadsSE | yes |
| 16:26.29 | WarheadsSE | unless they match exactly, then thre is a chance they might merge |
| 16:26.50 | WarheadsSE | The fact that the sun3i is a < armv7l, we can't just name it linux-sunxi |
| 16:27.15 | mnemoc | i see |
| 16:27.48 | WarheadsSE | Since the sun4i is single core, SMP isn't turned on at all, so the sun5i would have that |
| 16:27.52 | WarheadsSE | kinda large shift |
| 16:30.03 | traeak | mnemoc: much been done on the 3.4 branch of late? |
| 16:30.41 | mnemoc | traeak: not on my side at least, pretty busy with $work$ |
| 16:31.05 | mnemoc | I realized yesterday I used the wrong androidization branch :< |
| 16:31.18 | mnemoc | used android-3.4 and should have used android-3.4-compat |
| 16:31.34 | WarheadsSE | and von_fritz, I really do need to get those egl/ump/x11 drivers done |
| 16:31.35 | mnemoc | that's why the wifi driver fails |
| 16:31.38 | traeak | mnemoc: tell me about it |
| 16:31.58 | WarheadsSE | I jsut haven't had time to get them into a package. |
| 16:35.56 | mnemoc | traeak: do you think people will hate me if I redo the 3.4 branch? |
| 16:36.20 | mnemoc | traeak: I suppose not many people (if anyone) is using it |
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| 16:38.23 | traeak | mnemoc: don't worry, it's not like anyone depends on it |
| 16:38.32 | traeak | mnemoc: i'm running it right now but i'm not doing much with it |
| 16:38.37 | traeak | mnemoc: real life here as well :-p |
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| 16:43.33 | mnemoc | traeak: :) |
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| 16:48.47 | traeak | ahh |
| 16:48.59 | traeak | WarheadsSE: is there an armhf for rpi yet? |
| 16:49.24 | WarheadsSE | It's inbound |
| 16:49.42 | WarheadsSE | we're doing to farm re-working, one of those effects will be an armv6h |
| 16:50.03 | traeak | what type of compile farm? cross compilation ? |
| 16:50.07 | WarheadsSE | You have to keep in mind the evolution :) |
| 16:50.21 | WarheadsSE | https://github.com/archlinuxarm/plugbuild/ |
| 16:50.58 | traeak | pogo has a vfp? |
| 16:50.58 | WarheadsSE | mix of native/distcc auto-distribution |
| 16:51.18 | WarheadsSE | only pi & v7's have vfp |
| 16:51.31 | WarheadsSE | no other devices we've found have vfps |
| 16:52.01 | WarheadsSE | it's required to implement at least the vfpv3-d16 on v7's, v5 is was non-existant, and v6 it was optional. |
| 16:52.15 | traeak | cortex is a brand new architecture with some backwards compat |
| 16:52.47 | traeak | having neon would have been nice except nvidia with the tegra2 |
| 16:52.47 | traeak | hmm |
| 16:53.01 | traeak | although IMHO you can just abandon tegra2 :-p |
| 16:53.31 | WarheadsSE | yeah it would be |
| 16:53.44 | WarheadsSE | v7h is buitl armv7-a vfpv3-d16 |
| 16:54.00 | traeak | WarheadsSE: i'm probably the first person to get arch running on the mele a1000 |
| 16:54.08 | traeak | WarheadsSE: but haven't done so much with it (yet) |
| 16:54.14 | WarheadsSE | we have a split-brain happening that will kick off at the same time as the v6h, to burn out packages for v7n |
| 16:54.22 | WarheadsSE | traeak: nah.. |
| 16:55.19 | WarheadsSE | reads forums for who did it first. |
| 16:56.13 | traeak | http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2709&start=10#p17142 |
| 16:56.14 | WarheadsSE | looks like a "bnolsen" on 5/21 |
| 16:56.14 | traeak | :-p |
| 16:56.38 | WarheadsSE | see.. non-matching nicks is a pita |
| 16:56.52 | traeak | sure |
| 16:56.56 | traeak | i can hide that way somewhate |
| 16:56.58 | traeak | somewhat |
| 16:57.04 | traeak | i use this name for all my gaming |
| 16:57.24 | WarheadsSE | :p |
| 16:57.26 | WarheadsSE | me = me |
| 16:57.51 | WarheadsSE | But yeah, script.bin config for the X11, and I know it works when packaging all the bits |
| 16:58.00 | WarheadsSE | I have to make a "pretty package" of them yet |
| 16:58.00 | traeak | i probalby split because the first forums i went on were sort of work related so i stuck with that |
| 16:58.16 | traeak | i'm stuck on 720p for now |
| 16:58.23 | traeak | at one point i had the mele x11 drivers running |
| 16:58.33 | traeak | can't for the life of me remember what resolutoin that came up in |
| 16:59.22 | WarheadsSE | I had them running, 720, even 1080 |
| 16:59.30 | WarheadsSE | but atm, my hdmi isnt coming on |
| 16:59.47 | WarheadsSE | I was futzing with the fex |
| 16:59.53 | WarheadsSE | :/ broke something |
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| 17:00.42 | traeak | ahh so you have some specific mele packages going ? |
| 17:00.52 | traeak | compilation on the mele itself is pretty ugly slow |
| 17:01.13 | specing | It aint |
| 17:01.16 | RITRedbeard | really? |
| 17:01.37 | RITRedbeard | I would have thought the opposite but maybe with I/O bottleneck |
| 17:01.41 | RITRedbeard | ugly slow is on Raspberry Pi |
| 17:02.10 | WarheadsSE | Yeah, I have a class 10 sdhcI |
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| 17:03.59 | traeak | specing: i'm used to multi soceted xeons :-p |
| 17:04.21 | specing | lol |
| 17:04.35 | traeak | compiling on the rpi using sd or usb2.0 speed doesn't matter much |
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| 17:05.15 | WarheadsSE | lmao, no, the RPi doesn't matter much! |
| 17:05.29 | traeak | no it doesn't really |
| 17:05.33 | WarheadsSE | Seriously, it's made to be cheap, not uber-functional |
| 17:05.43 | specing | traeak: What do you need the mele for if you have multi-socketed xeons? |
| 17:05.49 | traeak | http://www.aliexpress.com/product-gs/599064031-Free-shipping-MK802-Allwinner-A10-Android-4-0-RAM-1GB-ROM-4GB-Mini-PC-TV-Box-wholesalers.html |
| 17:05.56 | traeak | specing: playing with arm stuff, etc |
| 17:06.02 | WarheadsSE | Do you know how many people have come into the alarm channel and asked "Y U NO GNOME3 DEFAULT?!?" |
| 17:06.13 | traeak | oh geez |
| 17:06.19 | WarheadsSE | yes.. |
| 17:06.23 | traeak | windowmaker for me |
| 17:06.35 | traeak | gnome could run on the 1gb mk802 |
| 17:06.39 | WarheadsSE | or better yet, ones that come one, and have broken their sd cards by not folowing instructions, and then DONT have serial? |
| 17:06.54 | WarheadsSE | I was running xfce4 on my mele |
| 17:07.07 | WarheadsSE | 2d was slow, but glxgears was > 100fps |
| 17:07.10 | traeak | i have that on my netbooks at home, but my wife and kids use those boxes |
| 17:07.16 | traeak | windowmaker would probably blow their minds |
| 17:07.38 | traeak | WarheadsSE: i had the same glxgears numbers. and use wireframe move/resize, helps a ton |
| 17:07.47 | traeak | but web browsers are brutal beasts |
| 17:08.04 | WarheadsSE | I didnt get that afar |
| 17:08.21 | WarheadsSE | was hilarious watching mplayer try to run 720p mkv |
| 17:08.30 | traeak | i didn't bother going that far |
| 17:08.38 | traeak | i *did* run jagged alliance 2 though |
| 17:08.40 | traeak | that ran great |
| 17:08.44 | WarheadsSE | I made sure sound worked & X came up |
| 17:08.46 | traeak | upped the resolution even |
| 17:08.52 | traeak | sdl game |
| 17:11.39 | traeak | worst case is my wife takes over the mele for home use |
| 17:15.16 | specing | WindowMaker looks very futuristic indeed... |
| 17:17.09 | steev | serial is for woosies, real men just guess why it doesn't work |
| 17:25.45 | specing | Yeah, like me... I still have no way of inputing anything to it :< |
| 17:29.49 | traeak | futuristic? |
| 17:29.50 | traeak | hehe |
| 17:30.13 | specing | It looks like some 1990 gui |
| 17:30.43 | specing | And I cant even imagine the ugliness at 1920x1200... |
| 17:30.47 | traeak | 1989 |
| 17:30.56 | traeak | i use it for pure development systems |
| 17:31.10 | traeak | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextstep |
| 17:31.39 | traeak | funny i hated the nextstep guis but the window manager i'm fine with |
| 17:32.27 | specing | yeah it looks ugly |
| 17:34.37 | traeak | so? you want all these lame stupid assed effects that lag your system and gui? :-p |
| 17:37.00 | specing | No, I want a clean and sleek gui that doesent look like it was invented by dinosaurs |
| 17:41.08 | WarheadsSE | well, either way traeak, we've got a kernel for it, and will (hopefully soon) have the egl & graphics lined up in neat packages |
| 17:42.36 | traeak | WarheadsSE: sweet, allow me to be extra lazy then which is a good thing |
| 17:55.34 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: marco master * re58c60d41384 /allwinner_a10/ainol_novo_elf_7.mdwn: Added some detail |
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| 18:04.24 | NAiL | ka6sox :) |
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| 18:52.32 | thefrog | i wonder what SoC the Vizio Co-Star uses |
| 18:53.25 | traeak | marvell |
| 18:53.32 | traeak | google is your friend :-[ |
| 18:53.45 | traeak | i'm guessing that probably means arm11 with some extra stuff |
| 18:53.56 | traeak | i could be very wrong though |
| 18:54.01 | thefrog | traeak: i did google it .. all i found is pre-order stuff |
| 18:54.15 | thefrog | my google fu isn't strong today. Diet Soda withdraw |
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| 18:58.29 | thefrog | My Mele is in New Jersey |
| 19:13.28 | WarheadsSE | traeak: well, it depends. |
| 19:15.42 | WarheadsSE | *if thats the 1500 .. we'll have that covered with ALARM :) |
| 19:15.56 | WarheadsSE | And the 1500 is a bit of a media beast. |
| 19:16.48 | WarheadsSE | It's essentially a Dove based SoC, so its a variant of the cubox |
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| 19:17.44 | j1nx | Turl: You're here? |
| 19:20.12 | j1nx | anybody know Turl his email address? |
| 19:21.13 | steev | j1nx: look him up on github |
| 19:21.32 | j1nx | I know, looking at it, but don't see his email |
| 19:22.33 | steev | look at any of his commits |
| 19:23.01 | DonkeyHotei | SF provides @users.sourceforge.net addresses; github has nothing similar? |
| 19:23.49 | j1nx | I must be blind |
| 19:27.49 | DonkeyHotei | is there no way to cross-compile xserver-video-mali? |
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| 19:29.57 | WarheadsSE | If you have the needs available, maybe |
| 19:30.05 | WarheadsSE | it really shouldnt be that hard. |
| 19:30.48 | DonkeyHotei | do i need to tell autoconf anything special? |
| 19:33.41 | WarheadsSE | maybe hard set the lib dir ? |
| 19:33.58 | WarheadsSE | did you also cross UMP ? |
| 19:34.22 | WarheadsSE | the fact that it wants to use armv6 was odd.. hit that over the head myself. |
| 19:36.06 | hno | WarheadsSE, do mali want to use armv6? |
| 19:36.31 | WarheadsSE | the sources from malideveloper.com |
| 19:38.24 | WarheadsSE | I thik it was UMP that wanted to use armv6t |
| 19:38.57 | DonkeyHotei | looks like compiling it at all needs the ddk, but the wiki doesn't mention it |
| 19:39.24 | WarheadsSE | I didnt need the ddk ... ? |
| 19:39.59 | hno | You need libraries built from the DDK tuned for the target device, but not the DDK itself. |
| 19:40.11 | WarheadsSE | right, for the egl |
| 19:40.39 | WarheadsSE | pull down that hf compiled mali_egl libs, then make UMP & x11 |
| 19:48.22 | DonkeyHotei | configure.ac:24: error: must install xorg-macros 1.8 or later before running autoconf/autogen |
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| 20:08.58 | von_fritz | for compiling UMP i have changed in Makefile -march=armv7-a and added -fPIC is this wrong? |
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| 20:11.29 | WarheadsSE | nope, thats what I did, i think |
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| 20:35.39 | Turl | pong j1nx_ |
| 20:37.35 | Turl | j1nx_: /msg'd you my email |
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| 20:53.34 | DonkeyHotei | ubuntu has only 1.7 of xutils-dev, so how can mali require 1.8? |
| 20:55.01 | WarheadsSE | heh |
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| 21:10.31 | DonkeyHotei | so how did other people do it? |
| 21:10.33 | WarheadsSE | my guess is they may have pulled down and compiled it themsevles? |
| 21:10.58 | DonkeyHotei | pulled down all of xorg? |
| 21:11.50 | traeak | xorg-devel |
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| 22:25.08 | NZBBoSS | just wondering if anyone has managed to get any decent games running on the a2000 ? |
| 22:26.58 | traeak | android ? |
| 22:27.26 | NZBBoSS | yes mate |
| 22:27.35 | Turl | NZBBoSS: not an a2000, but that water racing game worked fine on my a10 tab |
| 22:27.40 | Turl | can't recall the name now |
| 22:28.27 | ZaEarl | Riptide |
| 22:28.40 | ZaEarl | Dead Trigger runs good too. |
| 22:28.43 | NZBBoSS | ive managed to get a ps3 style controller that game with a dongle working with the a2000, so now its just getting a good enough game to test it ;) |
| 22:28.59 | NZBBoSS | came* |
| 22:29.01 | ZaEarl | Riptide with a controller would be good |
| 22:29.10 | ZaEarl | but not a free game |
| 22:29.29 | NZBBoSS | thats cool, dont mind buying them ;) |
| 22:29.37 | NZBBoSS | cheers fella, ill take a look |
| 22:29.57 | ZaEarl | Dead Trigger is now free. Being an FPS, I would hope a controller would work for it too. |
| 22:30.28 | traeak | this probably isn't the best channel to ask about android |
| 22:36.41 | ManoftheSea | unless it's an arm-netbook? |
| 22:39.36 | NZBBoSS | ZaEarl, riptide works pretty sweet with a controller ;) |
| 22:40.12 | traeak | mostly linux interested folks here, androiders pop in and out |
| 22:40.23 | NZBBoSS | i thought i was in this channel before, earlier in the week cant remember where i found the info now thought it was relating to the A2000 .... might have my wire's crossed ;) |
| 22:42.06 | ManoftheSea | NZBBoSS: the A2000 shares a processor with the one used for EOMA which will enable arm-laptops |
| 22:43.37 | NZBBoSS | ah I see, yeah think i found this place on a mailing list |
| 22:44.35 | ManoftheSea | was it arm-netbooks? |
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| 22:46.58 | WarheadsSE | .. |
| 22:47.06 | WarheadsSE | Almost every A10 points here |
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| 23:19.12 | WarheadsSE | hey traeak i think i finally made it segfault.. |
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