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| 02:20.48 | WarheadsSE | mnemoc: Turl .. anyone else using the recent 3.0.38 changes in allwinner-3.0-anroid-v2 .. |
| 02:20.56 | WarheadsSE | anyone recognize this ? sw_hcd_init_controller.constprop.8 |
| 02:21.22 | ManoftheSea | 3.5 released |
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| 03:53.43 | DonkeyHotei | is there anywhere to download ImageSuite except slatedroid and flashmyandroid? both require registration |
| 04:08.10 | WarheadsSE | http://tabletrepublic.com/forum/cortex-a8-allwinner-a10/%5Bdev%5D-reversing-compiled-scripts-410-4.html |
| 04:08.18 | WarheadsSE | there is a link there to DB |
| 04:09.53 | WarheadsSE | DonkeyHotei: ^^ |
| 04:32.01 | DonkeyHotei | that's the GB imagesuite; i need the ICS one |
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| 11:21.05 | rm | excellent, got my USB DisplayLink adapter to work with the Mele |
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| 11:23.51 | rm | and it supports DPMS properly |
| 12:02.31 | orly_owl | \o/ |
| 12:02.39 | orly_owl | rm: what did that cost you |
| 12:15.34 | rm | $30 or 35 |
| 12:15.43 | orly_owl | nice |
| 12:16.01 | orly_owl | what resolution and size monitor? |
| 12:17.40 | rm | 1680x1050 |
| 12:17.45 | rm | 20" |
| 12:18.44 | orly_owl | no issues so far then? |
| 12:19.47 | rm | I only used it for a bit |
| 12:21.53 | orly_owl | ok |
| 12:41.55 | orly_owl | what's a good ui for a tablet that runs on GNU+Linux? KDE's plasma active? |
| 12:43.27 | specing | I don't thing you'll be able to run anything else if you used KDE |
| 12:43.33 | specing | think* |
| 12:43.39 | orly_owl | lol |
| 12:43.41 | specing | Maybe nokia's maemo? |
| 12:43.49 | orly_owl | ah yes, could do |
| 12:44.04 | orly_owl | i like android's ui but not it's use of java |
| 12:44.19 | specing | Yeah |
| 12:45.04 | orly_owl | i dunno |
| 12:46.37 | orly_owl | maybe ill just buy an allwinner a10 device and learn that way |
| 12:57.41 | orly_owl | how is mali 400 progressing? |
| 12:58.22 | orly_owl | i see if their website tells me |
| 12:59.27 | orly_owl | *I'll |
| 13:27.06 | rm | http://e.dx.com/albums/201207/android-4.0-mini-pc/index.html |
| 13:27.07 | rm | w00t =) |
| 13:30.24 | specing | Till 512M ram is $18 difference |
| 13:32.56 | orly_owl | is that still using the allwinner a10 but @ 1.5ghz? |
| 13:34.38 | specing | It is the same 1Ghz A10 |
| 13:34.49 | specing | 1.5 Ghz is a lie |
| 13:35.31 | orly_owl | i thought as much |
| 13:36.15 | specing | :) |
| 13:36.37 | orly_owl | its 1ghz isnt it |
| 13:36.42 | specing | I think mali is 500 Mhz or something like that and they just add them up |
| 13:36.59 | orly_owl | more lies! |
| 13:39.11 | ManoftheSea | also, 2 x 1080p is where they find 2160p |
| 13:39.33 | orly_owl | yep |
| 13:40.10 | penguin42 | it's like the way people used to rate stereos |
| 13:40.11 | orly_owl | i notied its AK802 instead of MK802, thats the only difference i can see |
| 13:40.47 | orly_owl | i just remember that rms is better ^^ |
| 13:44.00 | rm | that's all overpriced |
| 13:44.08 | rm | 1GB is $62 on Aliepxpress |
| 13:47.31 | hipboi | 1GB uHost is better |
| 13:48.20 | hipboi | http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/583304547-Smallart-Uhost-mini-pc-Allwinner-A10-hackable-device-wholesalers.html |
| 13:48.30 | hipboi | with populated uart |
| 13:51.09 | orly_owl | what is the A100? i see people talk about it in here |
| 13:53.04 | ManoftheSea | obviously it's 10dB better. |
| 13:53.15 | ManoftheSea | and the A1000 is 10dB better still. |
| 13:53.57 | orly_owl | thanks |
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| 13:59.06 | ManoftheSea | orly_owl: you know that's a joke, right? |
| 14:00.38 | orly_owl | yep |
| 14:00.48 | orly_owl | and my reply was sarcasm |
| 14:01.07 | WarheadsSE | lol |
| 14:01.26 | WarheadsSE | the A100 is essentially the A1000 minus USM/sata port |
| 14:01.42 | orly_owl | USM? |
| 14:01.51 | WarheadsSE | it's a seagate-ism |
| 14:01.53 | orly_owl | sounds sucky, i like sata |
| 14:02.08 | orly_owl | the sata port on top? |
| 14:03.41 | WarheadsSE | Yes, that is a USM port |
| 14:03.45 | orly_owl | ah ok |
| 14:03.56 | orly_owl | a100 lacks internal sata port too? |
| 14:04.06 | WarheadsSE | it's just not soldered on |
| 14:04.30 | WarheadsSE | otherwise, same A10, same 512M, same Mali |
| 14:05.02 | specing | The sata connector is 0.3$ ;) |
| 14:05.31 | orly_owl | ok lol |
| 14:06.16 | WarheadsSE | yeah, not hard to add it back |
| 14:06.36 | WarheadsSE | There is much less room in the case though |
| 14:07.03 | orly_owl | is there room for a 2.5" hdd inside? |
| 14:07.13 | specing | Who needs cases anyway? |
| 14:07.18 | orly_owl | heh |
| 14:07.35 | specing | I'd need a heatsink for the A10 anyway |
| 14:07.45 | specing | It is extraordinarily hot |
| 14:08.55 | rm | mk802 manages to go without |
| 14:10.08 | WarheadsSE | meh, plx gets hot too |
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| 14:13.21 | ManoftheSea | The uHost claims arm-netbook is it's channel? |
| 14:14.17 | ManoftheSea | oh, is this Tom Cubie? |
| 14:18.27 | hipboi | yes |
| 14:18.51 | hipboi | and good night |
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| 15:11.04 | rm | so, has anyone got DPMS to work with the A10 display output? |
| 15:30.49 | WarheadsSE | dpms |
| 15:30.50 | WarheadsSE | ? |
| 15:32.49 | ManoftheSea | display power management? |
| 15:33.28 | WarheadsSE | ah |
| 15:33.32 | WarheadsSE | havent reid. |
| 15:33.37 | WarheadsSE | * tried |
| 15:33.49 | WarheadsSE | Probably would if I had gotten to the Gooseberry |
| 15:34.15 | WarheadsSE | lmeing has started on that, we're going to put the instructions for the Mele's online today/tomorrow |
| 15:42.19 | rm | I have a desktop computer that's on 24x7 |
| 15:42.36 | rm | it's used only rarely, sometimes when someone wanders around to browse the web or IM |
| 15:42.52 | rm | and it has to turn off the monitor when not in use |
| 15:42.53 | WarheadsSE | So why is it on 24x7? |
| 15:43.00 | rm | because why not |
| 15:43.11 | WarheadsSE | because if the boot time is 8 seconds? |
| 15:43.12 | rm | never guess when you might need something on the web |
| 15:43.16 | rm | it's 2 minutes |
| 15:43.25 | WarheadsSE | slow for you |
| 15:43.34 | rm | that computer used to be a P3 that booted from an NFS share |
| 15:43.41 | rm | so definitely not 8 seconds |
| 15:43.47 | rm | and now that computer is a Mele A2000 :) |
| 15:44.45 | rm | maybe I will put an MK802 there instead |
| 15:45.07 | rm | at least it will make a bit more sense to pair it with a displaylink adapter |
| 15:45.42 | rm | as it doesn't have its own VGA |
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| 18:37.11 | Scepterr | any of you guys got a raspberrypi ? |
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| 18:43.58 | rm | nope |
| 18:44.44 | rm | mk802 is better |
| 18:44.51 | rm | so I am not even ordering an R Pi |
| 19:18.19 | Mazon | well, an ovalelephant is better than an mk802 :p |
| 19:18.47 | Mazon | that said an RPi is pretty versatile |
| 19:18.57 | Mazon | unlike the mk802 |
| 19:21.28 | rm | it's not |
| 19:21.40 | rm | (on both matters) |
| 19:22.51 | rm | ovalelephant is priced higher and is much less widely-available (is it even available at all yet?) |
| 19:23.11 | rm | RPi has only the GPIO going for it |
| 19:23.18 | rm | that's all |
| 19:27.59 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/598584989-HongKong-Post-Freeshipping-IPTV-MK802-Allwinner-A10-Android-4-0-RAM-1GB-ROM-4GB-1-5GHz-wholesalers.html |
| 19:28.01 | rm | sixty! |
| 19:30.24 | Scepterr | well i got an rpi already and ordered a pineriver h24 |
| 19:30.33 | Scepterr | :) |
| 19:31.14 | Scepterr | media capability on rpi is rock solid, does 1080p without skipping a beat |
| 19:32.40 | Scepterr | that and the arduino capabilites sold me on the rpi at $35 |
| 19:33.36 | rm | $35+$8+$10+$5=$58 actually |
| 19:33.45 | rm | + "despatch in 19 weeks" b/s |
| 19:34.04 | Scepterr | i ordered on rls day and got it 3 months later |
| 19:34.11 | Scepterr | was fully expecting to |
| 19:34.24 | Mazon | oval had hdmi clamps == goood |
| 19:34.43 | rm | I don't see mass reports of mk802 failing |
| 19:35.07 | Scepterr | and i paid $35 flat :) |
| 19:35.10 | Mazon | if it was only the mk802 that failed ;) |
| 19:35.21 | Mazon | problem if it blows your TVs port |
| 19:35.27 | rm | Scepterr, sooooo you didn't pay shipping? |
| 19:35.33 | Scepterr | yah |
| 19:35.33 | rm | and you still don't have a case? |
| 19:35.37 | Scepterr | got a case |
| 19:35.40 | Scepterr | awesome case |
| 19:35.45 | rm | and I assume you use a PSU you found in a dumpster?:> |
| 19:36.02 | Scepterr | http://www.adafruit.com/products/859 |
| 19:36.02 | rm | that's the three $8+$10+$5 |
| 19:36.02 | Scepterr | runs off usb power |
| 19:36.04 | Scepterr | runs off my tv usb power |
| 19:36.18 | rm | that one is even $15, not 10 |
| 19:36.25 | rm | what a ripoff |
| 19:36.31 | Scepterr | it was a luxury |
| 19:36.34 | Scepterr | i built alego case :) |
| 19:36.57 | Scepterr | https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/106544349933037831956/albums/5751776573083768129 |
| 19:39.28 | Scepterr | can have it completely portable with a 10000mah anker battery and 3.4 lcd :) |
| 19:39.32 | Scepterr | 3.5" * |
| 19:53.07 | phh | so, what's the state of hardware video decoding on allwinner a10 ? not working at all, not even a demo ? |
| 19:56.19 | von_fritz | on android it works :) on linux :( |
| 20:11.18 | hackandfab | I'm looking at cedar libraries and file command says ARM, version 1 but readelf says ABI Version: 0 and then machine ARM version 1. |
| 20:12.37 | hackandfab | I'm looking at cdxalloc.o inside libcedarxalloc.a |
| 20:17.34 | phh | you're looking at something precisely or just browsing ? |
| 20:23.57 | hackandfab | armhf compiles for arm EABI2 and armel for arm EABI1, and the old EABI was named arm (I'll call it arm eabi0 here). I want to know if it uses arm eabi1 or eabi0 |
| 20:26.55 | phh | it wasn't called eabi before, right ? |
| 20:27.47 | phh | because strings on it raises many eabi matches |
| 20:28.00 | hackandfab | http://pastebin.com/KLxzvwGv |
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| 22:21.08 | hackandfab | ok I found the answer to EABIs here: http://www.rtems.org/pipermail/rtems-devel/2012-April/000893.html |
| 22:28.14 | phh | so binaries are old abi ... ? |
| 23:25.14 | hno | hackandfab, I don't think we have armhf CedarX binaries just yet. But have not given up hope that the situation will improve on that front. |
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