| 00:02.58 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: I only mean that if he ships on sundays chances are that payments made on saturday/sunday are not aproved by aliexpress on time for him to notice and prepare the shipment and so is likely you'll be a whole week waiting |
| 00:03.16 | DonkeyHotei | :( |
| 00:03.55 | DonkeyHotei | what time zone does aliexpress payment approval operate in? |
| 00:04.07 | mnemoc | china's |
| 00:04.18 | DonkeyHotei | i mean in utc offsets |
| 00:04.40 | mnemoc | utc+9 or something like that |
| 00:06.03 | Turl | ZaEarl: I get a little bit of garbage probing with my arduino on that rx/tx |
| 00:06.16 | Turl | where's that serial spammer? :P |
| 00:08.08 | DonkeyHotei | so that means that aliexpress received the order at 11:24am this morning, local time |
| 00:08.23 | DonkeyHotei | (saturday) |
| 00:09.22 | DonkeyHotei | that is the timestamp of the following e-mail: |
| 00:09.26 | DonkeyHotei | Payment for Order 1010461438 has been accepted. |
| 00:09.27 | DonkeyHotei | The Delivery Status is currently "Awaiting Shipment." The supplier must ensure all goods are delivered before the delivery date and add tracking details for your shipment(s) to AliExpress.com . |
| 00:09.58 | mnemoc | maybe you'll be lucky :) |
| 00:10.29 | DonkeyHotei | it still says awaiting shipment at this point |
| 00:10.54 | Turl | mnemoc: does the kernel print anything to serial by default? |
| 00:10.56 | mnemoc | it will until he provides a tracking number |
| 00:11.05 | mnemoc | Turl: DRAM: 512 |
| 00:11.25 | Turl | when? and at what speed? |
| 00:11.43 | mnemoc | *very* early. 115200 |
| 00:12.07 | Turl | wonder if it can keep up the bitbanging at 115200 |
| 00:12.50 | Turl | it has a 16Mhz clock |
| 00:15.59 | mnemoc | that's why I thought gpio scanning could be a better idea |
| 00:16.27 | mnemoc | toy sweeping all input pins and telling which are high |
| 00:16.52 | mnemoc | instead of screaming the id on all pins at once |
| 00:17.22 | Turl | I can read 0-5v and do digital reads with this |
| 00:18.04 | mnemoc | and i should go to sleep |
| 00:18.08 | mnemoc | good night! |
| 00:18.12 | mnemoc | and good luck :) |
| 00:18.15 | Turl | night |
| 00:25.39 | Turl | found a text qr on a chip heh :) |
| 00:41.18 | CIA-122 | rhombus-tech: master * r7fec1fb6f8d6 /allwinner_a10/orders/minsler.mdwn: |
| 01:15.15 | lundman | http://lundman.net/ftp/mele/Mele_HTPC_Android_4.0_V1.rar |
| 01:15.18 | lundman | took a while |
| 01:17.58 | Turl | is that an official release? |
| 01:25.53 | lundman | it is |
| 01:27.43 | Turl | lundman: your server is slow, I must say :P |
| 01:28.46 | lundman | oes it beat 4k/s from official url? |
| 01:29.47 | lundman | heh your unix is called Axel? |
| 01:30.46 | lundman | cool, .ar, whats there to do there if we go there for holiday? |
| 01:30.46 | Turl | y u close my connection |
| 01:30.58 | Turl | lundman: pretty much all the things :) |
| 01:31.01 | lundman | i didnt, but there sure is network issues today |
| 01:31.38 | Turl | axel is a threaded downloader |
| 01:31.40 | lundman | ahh hah, they are upgrading backbone to 10G.. hah what bad timing |
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| 03:20.07 | mpthompson | Has anyone upgraded their Mele A1000 to ICS Android 4.0 without using HDMI input to a digital television? I have to use an HDMI/DVI convertor and it doesn't seem to work. |
| 03:22.15 | DonkeyHotei | i don't think i have a display that accepts just dvi |
| 03:27.58 | mpthompson | I had somewhat of the same problem with the original firmware, but I was able to figure out that I could press the screen change button on the remote to get the screen to work. That doesn't seem to work with ICS. |
| 03:29.02 | mpthompson | I guess ICS doesn't work with VGA??? |
| 03:31.15 | DonkeyHotei | the switch to vga is an ioctl to the driver, so maybe it just doesn't respond to the button |
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| 03:40.46 | mpthompson | Hmmm. Things that got it working with the earlier firmware doesn't work. Not surprising. I suppose ICS is somewhat of a newer and different beast. |
| 03:41.41 | mpthompson | Oh well, time to start googling and see what I can dig up. |
| 03:53.41 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi: i submitted my order on aliexpress 25½ hours ago |
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| 04:17.31 | Turl | hipboi: hi |
| 04:18.04 | hipboi | Turl: hi |
| 04:19.10 | hipboi | specing: i am not hiding |
| 04:19.23 | Turl | hipboi: do you have mele stock? |
| 04:19.25 | hipboi | specing: now usuallly i am at Shenzhen |
| 04:19.33 | hipboi | Turl: yes, a lot |
| 04:19.42 | hipboi | and the uHost |
| 04:20.07 | lundman | ok |
| 04:20.24 | lundman | whats the uHost? something I want? |
| 04:20.35 | Turl | hipboi: can you let me know the price for the mele, uart connector, the uSD uart for tablet and shipping to argentina? |
| 04:20.49 | Turl | lundman: the oval elephant device |
| 04:21.46 | Turl | lundman: http://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/Smallart-Uhost-Allwinner-A10-hackable-device/583304547.html |
| 04:21.51 | hipboi | uHost 70$ without shipping |
| 04:22.15 | hipboi | the 99$ is the one with air mouse |
| 04:22.24 | hipboi | 70$ without air mouse |
| 04:23.29 | hipboi | Turl: currently i don't have the uSD uart |
| 04:24.04 | Turl | hipboi: well, without it then :) I can do kernel work on mele |
| 04:24.13 | lundman | huh that is quite interesting |
| 04:24.37 | lundman | uhost and mele are same, but for.. sata, spdif ? |
| 04:24.44 | lundman | also a ukey, whtever that is |
| 04:25.01 | Turl | lundman: uhost is like mk802 |
| 04:25.11 | lundman | I must say, Once A10 becomes a capable mediaplayer, these things should sell well |
| 04:25.40 | hipboi | Turl: what shipping method do you want? |
| 04:25.58 | Turl | hipboi: the cheapest, I guess it's china post :) |
| 04:26.04 | hipboi | ok |
| 04:26.14 | lundman | has anyone used the airmouse? is it any good? |
| 04:26.39 | Turl | I don't want UPS or fedex or such, they stop those on customs and it's a pain in the neck :) |
| 04:27.16 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi: oops, i ordered the A2000/F10/debug pkg :( |
| 04:27.36 | hipboi | the F10 is good |
| 04:27.54 | lundman | is airmouse like wiimote? |
| 04:27.59 | hipboi | yes |
| 04:28.15 | lundman | I am looking at compiling wiimote for mele, but is airmouse actually good enough to use? |
| 04:28.16 | hipboi | just shake and the mouse curse move |
| 04:28.31 | lundman | so you point at screen, essentially? |
| 04:28.38 | hipboi | no |
| 04:28.44 | hipboi | anywhere |
| 04:28.51 | hipboi | it's 2.4G wireless |
| 04:28.53 | DonkeyHotei | but if you don't have the uSD debug module and i ordered it... |
| 04:29.05 | Turl | DonkeyHotei: mele debug is internal |
| 04:29.10 | lundman | sure but its directional, i move hand a little to left and pointer moves left |
| 04:29.15 | DonkeyHotei | ohhhh |
| 04:29.19 | lundman | ? |
| 04:29.20 | Turl | not on uSD (does it even have a uSD slot? I think it has a full SD slot) |
| 04:29.34 | hipboi | Donkey: uSD debug module is another thing |
| 04:29.49 | hipboi | not the USB to TTL debug board |
| 04:29.54 | DonkeyHotei | then i did not really need it, because i already have 3.3V serial |
| 04:29.59 | lundman | ok maybe I'll buy an airmouse instead and skip the wiimote project, that means next is PS3eye/webcam and skype |
| 04:30.13 | DonkeyHotei | does it also do jtag, like the uSD? |
| 04:31.06 | hipboi | DonkeyHotei: no |
| 04:31.26 | DonkeyHotei | oh well. will still be useful |
| 04:31.52 | DonkeyHotei | you ship on sundays, right? |
| 04:31.57 | hipboi | yes |
| 04:32.08 | hipboi | and i am wait for the driver to come |
| 04:32.12 | lundman | the a10 would sell like crazy in japan |
| 04:32.18 | hipboi | picking up the packages |
| 04:32.35 | hipboi | japan? |
| 04:32.45 | lundman | you cant fail to sell things here |
| 04:32.45 | DonkeyHotei | ah, ok, so it might actually get shipped shortly? |
| 04:33.05 | lundman | getting just airmouse , or airmouse+uhost is about the same price |
| 04:33.19 | hipboi | DonkeyHotei: yes, what's your order number? |
| 04:34.54 | DonkeyHotei | 1010461438 |
| 04:36.46 | Turl | hipboi: is the driver coming soon? I can paypal you the money right now if you tell me the cost :) |
| 04:37.18 | hipboi | Turl: A2000 + debug board? right? |
| 04:37.27 | Turl | + shipping, yes |
| 04:39.08 | lundman | hipboi: where is your shops F10 on ali? |
| 04:40.07 | lundman | think i found it http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Mele-F10-Seneor-Remote-working-with-Mele-A1000-and-A2000/511685_549872597.html |
| 04:42.17 | lundman | done |
| 04:43.21 | Lupu_ | Is the F10 Backlit ? |
| 04:43.44 | hipboi | no |
| 04:44.31 | lundman | it is if you plug it into 240V |
| 04:44.35 | lundman | for a short time |
| 04:44.59 | DonkeyHotei | we have 120V here |
| 04:45.20 | lundman | then, no. |
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| 05:00.12 | Turl | am I blind or did mnemoc forget to push the branch mentioned @ https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/12 ? :p |
| 05:03.07 | lundman | both? |
| 05:03.10 | lundman | :) |
| 05:05.57 | Turl | I need to visit the ophthalmologist indeed, but imo, I'm far from blind :P |
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| 06:01.52 | specing | 0.o hipboi is here, yay, and gone again |
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| 06:11.00 | specing | btw, Hello! |
| 06:11.59 | Turl | specing: last I checked his quit chinese characters meant something like 'brb' |
| 06:12.30 | specing | ? what characters? |
| 06:12.48 | specing | ah, in [Quit: ??] |
| 06:13.11 | Turl | 暂离 <- those |
| 06:13.31 | Turl | google translate outputs "Temporary leave of" for them |
| 06:14.09 | Turl | which I assume means 'be right back' |
| 06:14.18 | specing | heh |
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| 06:34.21 | hno | r9vRZa2U |
| 06:34.43 | hno | qIU¤iUI#" |
| 06:34.47 | Turl | hno: ?? |
| 06:35.31 | specing | silly hno, you dont paste passwords into your irc client! |
| 06:35.53 | Turl | esp those with non ascii chars :) |
| 06:39.38 | hno | @$`Ym(8G! |
| 06:39.49 | hno | there, should do it. |
| 06:40.03 | Turl | ? :P |
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| 06:57.26 | lundman | that looked more sjis, instead of utf8 |
| 06:57.34 | lundman | さよなら |
| 06:57.52 | rm | it was a secret trigger string for his botnet-enabled builds of u-boot :P |
| 07:02.22 | Turl | oh yeah |
| 07:02.34 | Turl | I have one of those, but not on uboot :) |
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| 09:46.17 | zenitraM | good morning |
| 09:46.27 | zenitraM | guess who finally won an AR.drone 2.0 yesterday.. :) |
| 09:50.50 | madmalkav | cool congrats |
| 09:55.03 | specing | Lol it is so expensive the price isnt even mentioned on their site |
| 09:55.30 | specing | And I would rather have a rc plane that doesent burn its battery in 10 minutes |
| 09:57.49 | specing | I already have balsa wood for the wings |
| 09:57.59 | specing | Just need time... |
| 09:58.20 | lundman | heh the ardrone looks great, nearly bought one |
| 10:18.51 | zenitraM | lol, you can just telnet to it |
| 10:23.03 | lundman | yeah, fantastic, just hovers.. send it up and 720p goodness |
| 10:23.10 | lundman | but I do wonder if it just neat for 2 weeks |
| 10:35.43 | RITRedbeard | Cool. |
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| 10:58.17 | RITRedbeard | I have a few RC planes I meant for autonomous flight |
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| 12:04.54 | specing | Heh, this channel is rather quiet when Im not talking |
| 12:10.45 | rzk | added photos with known testpoints http://linux-sunxi.org/LY-F1 if someone has better camera and ly-f1, please add good macro photos of pcb. |
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| 12:17.19 | specing | My tablet looks better ;) |
| 12:19.09 | specing | Oh, uart is already marked there? sweet. |
| 12:20.50 | rzk | yes, and FEL |
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| 12:26.23 | specing | But the rx pin is quite some distance away |
| 12:26.35 | specing | explains why I couldn't find it |
| 12:29.04 | specing | rzk: steev has it |
| 12:29.19 | specing | steev: do you have Gentoo running on it? :D |
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| 12:54.38 | gnexus | mnemoc: you there? |
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| 14:07.25 | xxiao | finally fixed the ncurses cross-compile, need --without-ada, who needs Ada for ncurses these days? |
| 14:07.32 | xxiao | it should be disabled by default |
| 14:39.40 | rzk | HELLO! BOOT0 is starting! |
| 14:39.40 | rzk | boot0 version : 1.2.2 |
| 14:39.40 | rzk | initializing SDRAM Fail. |
| 14:39.56 | rzk | my ly-f1 completely died |
| 14:40.28 | rzk | boots only with pressure on cpu or left DDR3 |
| 14:42.09 | rzk | http://pastebin.com/3GLCWa5R |
| 14:45.28 | rzk | I thin I try to reflow it with heatgun |
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| 14:57.33 | Turl | rzk: maybe your nand corrupted? |
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| 14:58.47 | rzk | if I press on ddr3 - http://pastebin.com/sU9y2MHN |
| 14:59.36 | rzk | If I'm not doing that - I'm getting sdram fail or freeze on "DRAM: " |
| 14:59.59 | xxiao | Tom still has not shipped Mele2000 for, ordered 4 days ago |
| 15:00.46 | Turl | xxiao: Tom shipped several Meles yesterday |
| 15:00.58 | xxiao | Turl: sigh, not mine |
| 15:01.09 | xxiao | i guess i need wait another week for him to ship |
| 15:01.17 | rzk | xxiao: "Ships out within 14 days" |
| 15:01.21 | rzk | http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/546571245-Mele-A2000-TV-box-Allwinner-A10-hackable-device-wholesalers.html |
| 15:01.43 | xxiao | rzk: i know, if he has not shipped in 18 days your order is cancelled automatically, pathetic |
| 15:02.10 | Turl | xxiao: how do you know he didn't? |
| 15:02.15 | rzk | some chinese sellers started to avoid that 18 days |
| 15:02.24 | rzk | they just send you random tracking |
| 15:02.30 | xxiao | Turl: i just checked aliexpress order status |
| 15:02.35 | xxiao | i checked it once a while |
| 15:02.41 | Turl | xxiao: maybe he didn't update tracking |
| 15:02.47 | Turl | xxiao: when and how did you pay? |
| 15:02.49 | rzk | probably they dont know that tracking numbers are CRC'd |
| 15:03.07 | Turl | aliexpress needs to verify payment before tom can ship |
| 15:03.16 | xxiao | Turl: paid with credit card on Thursday |
| 15:03.29 | xxiao | after 24 hours it's cleared on Friday |
| 15:03.45 | xxiao | so if everything goes well he could have shipped it this weekend, |
| 15:03.52 | Turl | xxiao: he probably shipped it, just not updated tracking :) |
| 15:03.59 | xxiao | i'll just wait, fighting a dm365 build now anyway |
| 15:04.07 | xxiao | Turl: hopefully, thanks |
| 15:04.25 | Turl | xxiao: I also bought one last night, shipped instantly pretty much :P |
| 15:04.41 | xxiao | luck you |
| 15:05.14 | Turl | xxiao: and DonkeyHotei had one shipped too |
| 15:05.51 | xxiao | Turl: how did you guys find out it's hipped? |
| 15:06.04 | Turl | xxiao: because hipboi was here |
| 15:06.11 | xxiao | i see |
| 15:06.15 | Turl | xxiao: he said he was waiting for the driver to come and pick up the packages |
| 15:36.34 | DonkeyHotei | he did not say which orders were being shipped |
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| 16:03.23 | xxiao | http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/06/11/generalplus-gp3300-cortex-a8-processor-and-android-tablet-reference-design/ |
| 16:03.29 | xxiao | another A10 like chip from china? |
| 16:06.18 | Turl | powervr :x |
| 16:07.32 | rm | "A10-like" for me means first and foremost "happily boots from any SD you feed it", out of the box |
| 16:07.47 | rm | also a reasonably working fresh kernel existing |
| 16:09.23 | Turl | but.. but.. powervr :x |
| 16:17.40 | xxiao | no SATA either, i'll pass, seems not better than A10 in anyway |
| 16:18.20 | xxiao | it's actually from Taiwan |
| 16:19.47 | mikey_w | I still haven't got sata working on my mele A1000 so not much difference. |
| 16:20.08 | Turl | I thought mnemoc used sata? |
| 16:20.20 | mikey_w | I am running ICS. |
| 16:23.35 | mikey_w | How do you get to use the sata drive? |
| 16:26.16 | Lupu_ | how are you trying to use it |
| 16:26.17 | Lupu_ | ? |
| 16:27.07 | rm | Turl, I meant that if it isn't easy to software-hack like A10, then it's not "A10-like" for me... and yes, PowerVR only makes it worse |
| 16:28.31 | Lupu_ | mikey_w, how are you trying to use the sata drive? |
| 16:30.23 | mikey_w | I can mount it but it only shows it as a 2 GB drive when it's 320 GB. |
| 16:30.54 | mikey_w | I formatted it ext4. |
| 16:31.22 | mikey_w | Tried ext2 also. |
| 16:31.33 | Turl | mikey_w: tried vfat? |
| 16:32.08 | mikey_w | I want to use over 2GB files. |
| 16:32.31 | Turl | NTFS? |
| 16:32.45 | mikey_w | That failed completely. |
| 16:32.59 | Lupu_ | ext2/ext3 sould be fine |
| 16:33.26 | Lupu_ | with what partition manager have you format it ? |
| 16:33.51 | mikey_w | fdisk and mkfs |
| 16:34.54 | steev | specing: no, because we use it at work for showing how some things work on a 7" tablet, though if i get a nexus... |
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| 16:41.35 | drynish | HI! :) |
| 16:41.46 | drynish | I called ARM to get Linux binary for my Mele A2000 |
| 16:42.17 | specing | wut? |
| 16:43.21 | drynish | Oh... for the GPU 400 |
| 16:43.37 | drynish | I cannot get hardware acceleration for the GPU 400 |
| 16:43.50 | drynish | since they are not providing the ddk |
| 16:44.36 | drynish | So I asked them if I could buy a licence |
| 16:47.24 | specing | wut? |
| 16:47.59 | specing | what mushrooms have you been eating lately? |
| 16:50.19 | drynish | Why? |
| 16:50.24 | Turl | drynish: what did they answer? |
| 16:50.30 | drynish | I left a message on a voicemail |
| 16:50.34 | drynish | So I hope they will call back |
| 16:50.41 | Turl | yours is definitely a different approach to doing it I guess :P |
| 16:50.59 | xxiao | drynish: are you alright |
| 16:51.16 | drynish | I can't believe it... honestly I bought a raspberry pi also |
| 16:51.17 | xxiao | drynish: please don't do driving for the moment |
| 16:51.28 | drynish | and it will be opensource gpu on it |
| 16:51.45 | drynish | hahahah :) |
| 16:52.24 | drynish | Is arm a reputation of closing everything? |
| 16:52.37 | drynish | Does arm have a reputation of closing everything? |
| 16:52.39 | xxiao | by the way, what's the reason for companies keeping mali source code? is it a NDA/IP issue? |
| 16:52.51 | xxiao | what about that open source mali project |
| 16:53.08 | drynish | xxiao, what I did is asking for the IP licence |
| 16:53.48 | specing | drynish: have a few m$ to spare? |
| 16:54.09 | drynish | Lol |
| 16:54.12 | drynish | I hope not |
| 16:54.19 | drynish | I would like to, but no ;) |
| 16:54.28 | specing | Do you seriously think they will licence it to you? |
| 16:54.31 | xxiao | http://www.malideveloper.com/developer-resources/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-exadri2-and-x11-display-drivers.php |
| 16:54.58 | drynish | No |
| 16:55.03 | drynish | But I'll ask tehm! |
| 16:55.21 | xxiao | https://gitorious.org/lima |
| 16:55.50 | drynish | is it 100% working? |
| 16:55.56 | specing | no |
| 16:56.03 | xxiao | also i think the VPU code will never be open sourced, which should be fine. |
| 16:56.17 | xxiao | the VPU porting should be an IP thing |
| 16:56.42 | xxiao | s/porting/portion/ |
| 16:56.54 | drynish | Why my android is hardware accelerated and my linux is not? |
| 16:58.33 | specing | drynish: you can take the hardfloat drivers from Snowball's firmware on the linaro site |
| 17:01.20 | gimli | the decoder library we have for linux at the moment is realy crap |
| 17:02.24 | gimli | we have decoding times up to 200ms. quite long |
| 17:04.24 | Turl | gimli: anything that might help on https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/android_external_cedarx/tree/master/CedarAndroidLib/LIB_ICS_F23 ? |
| 17:05.03 | gimli | nope, because we are on pure linux and that i sandroid. for android they use different libs |
| 17:05.12 | drynish | So the issue is more about the decoding in linux than in andriod? |
| 17:05.40 | gimli | don't know how ell android works on decoding. |
| 17:06.27 | drynish | I thought android was an opensource system? |
| 17:07.09 | gimli | doesn't keep vendors back to dyload binary only libs |
| 17:07.32 | xxiao | http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/3454 |
| 17:10.27 | drynish | Ok so maybe I asked ARM something that it was not in their hand |
| 17:10.37 | gimli | https://github.com/amery/allwinner-a10-video this is whats for linux |
| 17:11.38 | specing | drynish: It is in their hand, they have the sources |
| 17:11.47 | specing | But they wont give them to you |
| 17:13.31 | gimli | one anoying thing of the lib is, it doesn't pop out frames when they are ready. keyframes are delivered sheduled, and then you get 3 frames back |
| 17:14.20 | gimli | also displaying decoded frames insode xbmc, means with running egl, can take up to 150ms |
| 17:15.29 | drynish | specing, even if they do give binaries? I mean, I don't care running blob on my computer as long as I have HW acceleration. |
| 17:15.52 | drynish | It must be the same thing on android |
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| 17:16.47 | drynish | I mean they're giving only binaries for this OS... |
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| 17:17.29 | specing | drynish: yep |
| 17:17.52 | gimli | doesn't matter. the blobs do not work as they should. |
| 17:18.07 | specing | gimli: Not even the Linaro ones? |
| 17:18.18 | gimli | had a talk to Tom, lets see if he can move something at allwinner |
| 17:18.48 | gimli | specing: what hw decoding libs does linaro has for this platform ? |
| 17:19.18 | gimli | i'm in doubt that linaro has more than we have |
| 17:19.25 | drynish | gimli: what do you mean by the blobs do not work as they should? |
| 17:19.37 | drynish | is it the way we're using them in Linux that's causing the issue? |
| 17:20.04 | gimli | nope, it is the way how they work. |
| 17:20.28 | drynish | gimli, about the three frames that you talked about ? |
| 17:20.55 | gimli | also. also about decoding times up to 200ms and diplaying frames u pto 130ms |
| 17:21.18 | gimli | for a 24fps movie you have 41ms time to display a frame |
| 17:21.37 | drynish | wow |
| 17:22.23 | gimli | ergo, my point of view. a crapy lib |
| 17:23.41 | drynish | Where does this lib come from? ARM? Allwinner? |
| 17:23.49 | gimli | allwinner |
| 17:23.58 | gimli | or better, softwinner |
| 17:24.03 | Turl | gimli: so you can do ~6fps? |
| 17:24.05 | gimli | thats the software part of allwinner |
| 17:24.32 | specing | So allwinner = hardwinner + softwinner? LOL |
| 17:24.37 | drynish | I know how to develop software but I don't know where to start? I never did reverse engineering |
| 17:24.38 | gimli | Turl: not all the time. those are just peaks. but those peaks make a smooth playback imposible |
| 17:25.10 | Turl | gimli: what quality are you working on? |
| 17:25.10 | gimli | drynish: objdump ;) |
| 17:25.19 | Turl | gimli: on android playback is good |
| 17:25.23 | gimli | Turl: what you mean with that ? |
| 17:25.38 | gimli | Turl: never tested android. i do not care about it |
| 17:25.38 | Turl | gimli: what resolution are you testing with? |
| 17:25.48 | gimli | ah. 720p |
| 17:26.06 | Turl | if I recall correctly I used a 1080p mkv |
| 17:26.11 | Turl | and it worked flawless |
| 17:26.29 | Turl | on android, with those libs |
| 17:26.52 | gimli | on android the libs are different |
| 17:27.24 | drynish | I'll code on... coming back to you in one hour :P |
| 17:27.47 | drynish | So i use the /dev/dsp for the output? |
| 17:47.01 | Turl | gimli: I noticed the libs you're using are 'F20' |
| 17:47.05 | Turl | the android ones are 'F23' |
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| 18:03.20 | mpthompson | Anyone have ideas on how to get ICS on the Mele A1000 to display on a DVI desktop monitor using an HDMI-to-DVI adapter. It worked with the old firmware, but ICS doesn't seem to want to autodetect my monitor settings. I figure it must want to be plugged into a 720p or 1080p HDTV. |
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| 18:07.30 | Turl | mnemoc: btw, did you forget to push the 3.4 branch? I looked for it yesterday to check it out but didn't see it on github |
| 18:07.43 | xxiao | what's the different between homlet's ics 4.0 v1.0 20120609 release vs mele's v1.6 release? |
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| 18:28.33 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/579717834-Drop-shipping-Android-4-0-ICS-10-1inch-mini-Netbook-Laptop-with-Allwinner-A10-WIFI-512M-wholesalers.html |
| 18:28.35 | rm | $123 |
| 18:28.39 | rm | is that cheap or what |
| 18:31.19 | Turl | rm: sounds like expensive to me? |
| 18:31.32 | Turl | rm: considering there's tablets for less with more ram |
| 18:31.58 | rm | until now I haven't seen an A10 netbook for less than $145 |
| 18:32.13 | rm | also, when you think of it, the MK802 is crazy expensive |
| 18:32.30 | rm | considering it's a tablet without everything |
| 18:32.41 | rm | but there's still a lot of demand for it |
| 18:35.02 | Turl | rm: http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/576396942-NEW-7-Mini-Wireless-Android-2-2-Netbook-Laptop-Notebook-WIFI-4GB-HD-800MHz-wholesalers.html |
| 18:35.25 | Turl | rm: and with a10, http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/586923934-RUNN-712-Boxchip-A10-1-5GHz-7-Android-4-0-3-Mini-Netbook-4G-NandFlash-Supports-wholesalers.html |
| 18:36.15 | rm | 7" vs 10" ...? |
| 18:36.36 | Turl | rm: just looking @ cheapest out there on aliexpress |
| 18:36.40 | rm | yes I meant > haven't seen a 10" A10 netbook for less than $145 |
| 18:37.09 | rm | and the first one is not even A10 |
| 18:37.22 | rm | it's like you are not in this discussion but talking about something else :) |
| 18:37.50 | rm | btw you can find a 7" WM8650 for around ~$58 |
| 18:38.11 | Turl | yup saw 'em |
| 18:38.36 | Turl | rm: you can also buy a tablet + one of those cases with a kbrd and get a newbook |
| 18:38.41 | Turl | netbook* |
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| 19:37.47 | hno | Turl, have you seen any with a decent keyboard? |
| 19:38.11 | Turl | hno: netbook? or case? |
| 19:38.19 | hno | case with keyboard. |
| 19:38.33 | Turl | dealextreme and such have a couple of them |
| 19:38.39 | Turl | keyboard didn't look too bad |
| 19:38.47 | Turl | but they were kind of pricy imo |
| 19:38.49 | hno | but otho keyboard on most netbooks isn't too great either. |
| 19:38.57 | Turl | truth |
| 19:39.07 | Turl | I hate anything smaller than 16" keyboard :) |
| 19:39.21 | Turl | (as in keyboard in a 16" notebook) |
| 19:41.05 | hno | Been looking for reduced size keyboards for some time, but there isn't much to choose from (not including "toy" remote keyboards) |
| 19:42.59 | hno | There is compact keboards, placing keys in odd positions and having FN key combinations for a bunch of them, but same "standard" key size. Why is there no keyboards with reasonable layout at reduced size? |
| 19:47.14 | Turl | I start to hate them when they drop the numpad |
| 19:47.33 | Turl | and I hate them even more when they overlay the numpad with on a-z |
| 19:48.57 | Turl | hno: have a look, http://s.dealextreme.com/search/case+keyboard |
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| 22:08.26 | mikey_w | I am running ICS on my mele. I have tried vfat, ext2-3-4 on it and still can't use it? |
| 22:08.43 | mikey_w | On may sata drive. |
| 22:08.54 | mikey_w | s/may/my |
| 22:17.02 | Turl | mikey_w: how are you trying to use it? |
| 22:19.02 | mikey_w | I am just trying to mount it and see it as 320GB drive and to r/w to it. |
| 22:21.09 | mikey_w | Just use it. |
| 22:21.12 | Turl | mikey_w: does fdisk and the like see it all? |
| 22:21.41 | mikey_w | Yes but when mounted it shows as a 2GB device. |
| 22:21.55 | Turl | how are you mounting it? |
| 22:23.04 | mikey_w | mount /dev/block/sda1 /mnt/sata |
| 22:23.33 | mikey_w | as root in a terminal |
| 22:23.42 | Turl | does sda1 span the whole drive? |
| 22:24.08 | mikey_w | yes |
| 22:24.10 | steev | fat32 max filesystem size is only 32gb |
| 22:24.29 | mikey_w | That's why I tried ext2-3-4. |
| 22:24.31 | Turl | steev: sure? I think it was considerably larger |
| 22:24.47 | Turl | mikey_w: and does the filesystem inside sda1 span the whole drive? |
| 22:24.57 | Turl | you can have a small fs inside a big partition |
| 22:27.02 | steev | Turl: pretty sure, maybe i'm wrong or my information is out of date. i know they created exFat to get around the limitations |
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| 22:27.17 | mikey_w | I format the entire partition. |
| 22:29.03 | Turl | steev: just checked, fat32 can do 2TB, 16TB with 4K sectors |
| 22:29.23 | steev | interesting, and good to know, noted |
| 22:30.05 | Turl | steev: however, XP's setup tool can't create >32G volumes |
| 22:30.15 | Turl | although already-installed windows is capable |
| 22:30.23 | mikey_w | The drive works on my desktop machine. |
| 22:31.59 | Turl | steev: MS seems to claim 32GB as recommended size http://technet.microsoft.com/library/Cc938432 |
| 22:32.50 | mikey_w | My desktop is running linux. |
| 22:33.14 | Turl | mikey_w: does it always see ~2G on any fs? |
| 22:33.55 | mikey_w | yes |
| 22:34.06 | Turl | and does it work then? |
| 22:34.10 | Turl | how are you checking the size? |
| 22:34.32 | mikey_w | when mounted df |
| 22:35.05 | Turl | maybe the df tool is broken? |
| 22:35.12 | Turl | try to dd a file to the disk |
| 22:35.17 | Turl | and see when you run out of space |
| 22:35.21 | Turl | or if it's >2gb |
| 22:35.38 | mikey_w | using fdisk on my android terminal shows partition 1 as 320 GB. |
| 22:36.56 | mikey_w | It won't let me write to the mount even when I set the permissions on the /mnt/sata directory to 777. |
| 22:38.32 | Turl | anything on dmesg? |
| 22:38.37 | mikey_w | the whole experience sucks. |
| 22:39.19 | mikey_w | BTW df reports a 32GB sd card correctly. |
| 22:39.50 | lundman | ok |
| 22:41.59 | mikey_w | I need the sata drive for a collection of large media files. |
| 22:43.12 | Turl | mikey_w: you could always stick the hdd on a case and connect over usb if you need it done quick |
| 22:43.35 | mikey_w | I want sata speeds. |
| 22:45.03 | lupu-x86 | i am curious if anyone can confirm that sata is working |
| 22:46.22 | Turl | lupu-x86: mnemoc was using it last I heard |
| 22:46.57 | lundman | I'll try it soon |
| 22:47.17 | mikey_w | Have fun. |
| 23:05.55 | zenitraM | sata works here, mounting ext3 |
| 23:08.44 | RITRedbeard | What speeds? |
| 23:08.52 | RITRedbeard | Full honest to goodness SATA II? |
| 23:26.35 | lupu-x86 | zenitram, how big is the partition? |
| 23:26.47 | zenitraM | mmm didn't test |
| 23:26.49 | zenitraM | 160gb |
| 23:28.04 | lupu-x86 | can u write to it? mikey said his part was read-only |
| 23:57.30 | mikey_w | zenitraM, what are you running on your mele? I am running ICS. |
| 23:57.56 | zenitraM | mikey_w: this was with linux, although i think it mounted fine on ics too |
| 23:58.35 | mikey_w | It mounts fine just wrong size. |
| 23:59.24 | mikey_w | I run netflix alot. |