| 00:06.10 | hno | mnemoc, how did you build fel-boot? |
| 00:10.14 | Turl | lundman: what's so good about zfs? I keep hearing it |
| 00:11.52 | lundman | i like it |
| 00:17.08 | traeak | i'm not sure what's so good about zfs |
| 00:17.24 | traeak | it basically lumps a bunch of potentially orthogonal concepts together in a single filesystem |
| 00:24.58 | lundman | partitions are out, the whole static-sized filesystems is gone |
| 00:25.18 | lundman | all your storage disks are all put into one big pool, from which you create filesystems |
| 00:25.45 | lundman | filesystems are really more like "mkdir", they are very light, and a simple 'set' command sets the size, if indeed you want to do that |
| 00:26.04 | traeak | there's more interraction between the logical volume manager and the filesystem |
| 00:26.21 | traeak | but i've seen many complaints that zfs isn't really very stable |
| 00:26.24 | lundman | file systems can then have things like compression, and dedup turned on and off when you want |
| 00:26.42 | lundman | and you can create volumes as well, that is "virtual" block devices of some size, in your pool |
| 00:27.00 | lundman | so, you create a 2GB volume, which you can mkfs.ext4 or swapon if you want |
| 00:27.17 | lundman | and it too, can have compression on, zfs will take blocks, and compress them transparently |
| 00:27.18 | traeak | okay....so lvm2 supports pooling |
| 00:27.33 | traeak | granted not a lot of current communication between the lvm subsystem and other filesystems |
| 00:27.41 | lundman | it is also endian aware, you can create and mount on either endian |
| 00:27.51 | lundman | and you can on/off encryption |
| 00:28.10 | lundman | it has nfs, smb and iscsi built in, you just on/off it per filesystem |
| 00:28.37 | traeak | sounds like shitloads of duplicated code ? |
| 00:28.38 | lundman | you can define any user key=value as well, so I have have a zfs set llinkshare=on /media, to tell llink to share this filesystem |
| 00:29.01 | lundman | it also have complete checksumming, end to end, so if you get bit-rot, it detects it, then fixes it |
| 00:29.18 | lundman | all without you doing anything, there is no fsck, as there is no need for fsck. it fixes any troubles it finds |
| 00:29.37 | traeak | "theoretically" except for those people online who are bitching and moaning about their data loss problems |
| 00:29.43 | traeak | hehe |
| 00:29.56 | lundman | then there is "zfs send" that lets you send any filesystem on a tcp, to zfs recv somewhere else, or just compress as a backup |
| 00:30.16 | lundman | then you can do snapshots, and they only grow with COW |
| 00:31.02 | lundman | as for stable, it is the most stable FS in existance, period. it did years of in-house testing at Sun before brought out |
| 00:31.22 | lundman | and has been running in production on extremely large deployments for at least a decode |
| 00:31.25 | lundman | er, decade |
| 00:31.25 | Turl | the linux implementation wasn't tested @ sun though |
| 00:31.44 | lundman | however, is ZFS for LINUX stable? good question. the fuse one isn't, and the native kernel one is on "rc9" |
| 00:31.53 | traeak | no but from the searching i did a while back there were complaints on solaris x86 about zfs for the same stuff |
| 00:32.02 | lundman | one good thing about native ZFS port, is the zfs source is the Sun source, as is |
| 00:32.15 | lundman | the guys wrote a SPL layer (sun porting layer) that glues between sun and linux |
| 00:32.33 | traeak | i used to work at a shop which provided terrabytes of processed ortho imagery that in some cases was fed into google earth/ms virtual earth |
| 00:32.47 | traeak | so imagery would be chewed on for days of processing time |
| 00:32.50 | lundman | so you know zfs is damned solid, but is the linux spl there? no sure, I've had very few problems, and use it at home and dev. not production |
| 00:32.55 | traeak | you want to see file systems get stressed tested, that's the place to do it |
| 00:33.22 | lundman | i'm at largest isp in japan, I have at least 25 servers with 30Tb each |
| 00:33.27 | lundman | all zfs |
| 00:33.49 | lundman | that's not counting the 2000 frontend servers, also running zfs. but they just load the os |
| 00:34.05 | traeak | perhaps they've fixed some of that then. it's beena few years since i worked there |
| 00:34.21 | traeak | we only had limited UPS |
| 00:34.33 | traeak | so if some idiot back hoed the local line (which happed sometimes) |
| 00:34.36 | lundman | 100 zfs here since hmm 2005. |
| 00:34.38 | traeak | there would be hard crashes |
| 00:34.56 | lundman | but I'm not here to convince you to switch, I know there is no way in hell I would ever go back to ext4 and friends :) |
| 00:34.56 | traeak | since it wasn't a 24/7 shop |
| 00:35.04 | lundman | er 100% |
| 00:35.15 | traeak | ext3 at the time had bad problems with fsck repair time |
| 00:35.30 | lundman | hell that these embedded boxes run FS that needs fsck is just crazy |
| 00:35.34 | traeak | jfs and xfs were corrupted under certain conditions |
| 00:35.37 | traeak | very interesting ones too |
| 00:36.00 | traeak | we killt 3ware due to their stupidity |
| 00:36.11 | traeak | went with tekram/areca cards when pci-e finally went mainstream |
| 00:37.09 | lundman | so anyway, mele android is just pretending to zfs, it lies to me |
| 00:37.12 | lundman | # ./zpool create melepool /dev/block/sda1 |
| 00:37.16 | lundman | nuthin |
| 00:38.45 | lundman | oh heh it want /etc/mntab |
| 02:22.44 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Jean-Luc_Aufranc master * r7db0dbf953af /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: |
| 02:36.32 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Jean-Luc_Aufranc master * rdb27cde1b551 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: |
| 02:37.28 | lundman | ok for shits'n'giggles |
| 02:37.48 | lundman | mele# djmount -o allow_other /mnt/sdcard/Pictures |
| 02:37.58 | lundman | # ls -l Pictures/ |
| 02:38.01 | lundman | dr-xr-xr-x root root 2000-01-01 20:00 llink-daemon UPNP Media Server (MediaServer) : 1 |
| 02:38.14 | lundman | and works with the Mele built in player |
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| 03:35.21 | A0Sheds | "When talk with Chinese people at this age, you should put MONEY first at your head, FREEDOM on the last one, the LAW may be the penultimate. Don't tell them that they should open the source, buy the copyright and release the source under GPL by yourself. " |
| 03:35.33 | A0Sheds | this should make for fun discussion :) |
| 03:40.10 | DonkeyHotei | wut |
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| 04:29.08 | rm | mnemoc, failed to build a kernel from your repo, maybe you know how to fix this? http://dpaste.com/764092/ |
| 04:32.22 | Turl | rm: I heard you need to kill the headers_check thing.. somewhere on the package |
| 04:33.51 | rm | ifdef CONFIG_HEADERS_CHECK |
| 04:33.52 | rm | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.05 | rm | thanks, will try commenting that out, I guess |
| 04:55.38 | rm | nope, did not help |
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| 05:05.00 | rm | commented it out in a couple of other places, now it went further |
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| 05:05.06 | rm | but wtf is THAT, I wonder |
| 05:05.09 | rm | http://dpaste.com/764101/ |
| 05:05.21 | lundman | or remove CONFIG_HEADERS_CHECK from your .config? |
| 05:16.01 | rm | lundman, yeah, but not all things can be disabled in config |
| 05:16.06 | rm | surprisingly |
| 05:16.17 | rm | recently I fought with disabling CONFIG_BQL |
| 05:16.48 | rm | =n or commenting it out does not work |
| 05:17.01 | rm | only patching the Kconfig seems to help |
| 05:17.53 | lundman | huh |
| 05:19.08 | rm | CONFIG_BQL=n, make oldconfig, and it's =y again |
| 05:19.46 | rm | and from what I see it's not present as a configurable option in e.g. menuconfig |
| 05:25.43 | lundman | one time I had to modify config/sun4i_crane_defconfig, then make sun4i_crane_defconfig for it to work |
| 05:25.50 | lundman | no edit of .config .oldconfig worked |
| 05:34.31 | CiHO | hey guys, does someone know how this hook works under linux? "ctp_upgrade_used = 1" "ctp_firmware_name = "ft5206-1024X600.bin"" |
| 05:35.03 | CiHO | i'm trying to get something on my display under linux, but there's just garbage on the display |
| 05:35.22 | CiHO | black display and white stripes |
| 05:35.43 | CiHO | has it something to do with firmware load for ft5x? |
| 05:54.01 | hipboi | hno: do you think we need to re-implement a mtd nand driver? |
| 06:08.35 | lundman | is it different to nand.ko? that works ok here |
| 06:08.37 | rm | yay it worked Linux debian 3.0.31rm1-dg #2 Wed Jun 27 04:44:01 UTC 2012 armv7l |
| 06:08.51 | rm | Kb Mem: 443964 total, 42728 used, 401236 free, 5468 buffers |
| 06:08.59 | rm | whoa yeah |
| 06:12.12 | RaYmAn | hipboi: that would rock =P Even if it would be incompatible with stock android roms, it would be very nice to get a standardized nand driver |
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| 06:16.03 | eFfeM_work | gm |
| 06:17.30 | rm | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.36 | rm | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:17.39 | rm | schweet |
| 06:35.41 | steev | RaYmAn: well the end goal i believe is to actually get support into mainline kernel |
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| 07:17.49 | RaYmAn | steev: of course :) |
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| 09:24.32 | rm | http://www.zoobab.com/minix-android-tv-allwinner-a10 |
| 09:24.41 | rm | naked boards |
| 09:24.43 | rm | nsfw |
| 09:32.30 | hno | hipboi, not sure it's needed to reimplement NAND access as an MTD. The Allwinner NAND block driver do work even if it does not expose the NAND as NAND at all. |
| 09:53.08 | lundman | rrrrrrr |
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| 10:02.18 | nikk | mnemoc: just want to note, this change broke nano wifi: https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/commit/71a60a22022b2a5710ba0a93a9fe0c2dab988184 |
| 10:04.13 | mnemoc | nikk: I was sort of fearing so. we can redo that commenting out in 3.0.36 too even if the code to comment out has changed, but it isn't really sustainable |
| 10:05.01 | mnemoc | hno: I built fel-boot as stated in the comments of the .c |
| 10:05.20 | mnemoc | hno: except that passed fel-boot.bin instead of fel.bin to mksunxiboot |
| 10:05.25 | nikk | mnemoc: i compiled 3.0.36 without this change, and nano wifi works fine |
| 10:06.20 | mnemoc | nikk: problem is we can't rely in such hack |
| 10:06.51 | mnemoc | nikk: blindly disabling mmc irq handling is not something we can carry |
| 10:07.09 | mnemoc | nikk: fine for 3.0.36, but 3.3? 3.4? .... |
| 10:07.34 | nikk | mnemoc: it's ok, now it's clear why it works and why it's not, so it can be local change for those who need that buggy driver ;-) |
| 10:07.38 | mnemoc | 3.0.33 backported "critical fixes" in that area which we are just trashing down |
| 10:09.45 | mnemoc | nikk: so you just revert that commit? nothing else? |
| 10:10.04 | nikk | mnemoc: yes, only this change, nothing mode |
| 10:10.09 | nikk | more |
| 10:12.20 | nikk | also, nano doesn't work, if pm for mmc cards disabled (this change is in quarx git for aurora). |
| 10:13.05 | mnemoc | nikk: you have an aurora too? |
| 10:14.05 | Quarx | still no patch for spi :( |
| 10:14.54 | nikk | no, i have ainol advanced I. quarx disabld pm as it will perform error message about SD card was unmounted unexpectedly after every display wake |
| 10:14.59 | mnemoc | Quarx: in my inbox |
| 10:16.10 | Quarx | nikk: no, it because i'm disable CONFIG_MMC_UNSAFE_RESUME |
| 10:18.00 | mnemoc | nikk: revert pushed |
| 10:20.11 | mnemoc | Quarx: unfortunatelly the patch I got from hipboi conflicts a lot... will poke you when a test branch is pushed |
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| 10:21.11 | Quarx | mnemoc: ok thanks |
| 10:46.17 | mnemoc | it's so frustrating when the upstream commit shows signs of been newer than what we have on some parts, and shows signs of been older than what we have on anothers |
| 10:55.58 | Quarx | mnemoc: if you want, you can send me patch, i will try it .. maybe patch not help for my problem |
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| 11:01.29 | mnemoc | Quarx: sure, I can forward it, but it's not something you can apply blindly |
| 11:03.37 | mnemoc | Quarx: sent. I will split it and review chunk by chunk this afternoon |
| 11:03.55 | mnemoc | now I need to finish something else :< |
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| 11:27.58 | mnemoc | sudo mount -t vfat -o loop,offset=22020096 homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img /mnt/ works :D |
| 11:28.07 | mnemoc | amazing |
| 11:29.23 | lundman | yep |
| 11:29.45 | RaYmAn | lol - kpartx is quite useful too if the dump contains a 'regular' partition table :) |
| 11:30.25 | mnemoc | but the phoenixcard thing doesn't make a 'regular' partition table :( |
| 11:30.35 | RaYmAn | ah |
| 11:31.00 | mnemoc | it actually makes a fake fat partition |
| 11:31.12 | mnemoc | which points you nowhere |
| 11:46.48 | mnemoc | do you know a tool that can detect filesystem types by offset? dd | disktype /dev/stdin reports... a pipe :p |
| 11:51.30 | mnemoc | blkid |
| 12:01.19 | mnemoc | it seems that's the only partition :( |
| 12:03.23 | mnemoc | $ for x in 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f; do for y in 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 a b c d e f; do offset=0x${x}${y}00000; info=$(blkid -p -O $offset homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img); test -z "$info" || echo "$offset: $info"; done; done |
| 12:03.27 | mnemoc | 0x1500000: homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img: SEC_TYPE="msdos" LABEL="Volumn" VERSION="FAT16" TYPE="vfat" USAGE="filesystem" |
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| 12:23.34 | Quarx | mnemoc: display works without any hacks:)) thanks:) ==== LCD SPI data translation finished === |
| 12:28.17 | mnemoc | Quarx: did you merge all chunks? |
| 12:28.23 | Quarx | mnemoc: no |
| 12:28.30 | Quarx | only spi part |
| 12:28.40 | mnemoc | Quarx: can you mail me the commit? |
| 12:29.05 | Quarx | yes, wait |
| 12:29.23 | mnemoc | Quarx: btw, thank hipboi ;-) |
| 12:38.16 | Quarx | mnemoc: https://github.com/Quarx2k/linux-allwinner/commit/7efc6a20ab7f7f3c58ba2d14325cc0e8b72bb053 |
| 12:38.24 | mnemoc | 0x4574000: homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img: UUID="3f98342b-2593-3444-b507-c230350c7e16" TYPE="hfsplus" USAGE="filesystem" |
| 12:38.27 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 12:43.08 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: manurat master * r0a68cc3d8882 /allwinner_a10/orders/manurat.mdwn: |
| 12:45.15 | mnemoc | 0x896b000: homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img: UUID="f08ad5ef-bec6-33b4-b85e-e27dd79674d1" TYPE="hfsplus" USAGE="filesystem" |
| 12:45.18 | mnemoc | 0xc0cf000: homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img: VERSION="3" TYPE="minix" USAGE="filesystem" |
| 12:45.29 | mnemoc | funny things detected in this image |
| 12:47.02 | mnemoc | but they are bogus.... failed to mount :< |
| 12:47.25 | mnemoc | Quarx: thank you! |
| 12:48.14 | Quarx | mnemoc: :) it should not affect on non spi lcd. |
| 12:48.35 | mnemoc | Quarx: that's exactly what I was wondering right now |
| 12:48.39 | mnemoc | back in 20m |
| 12:49.03 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Jacopo master * ra288d2e319f4 /allwinner_a10/orders/jack2.html: |
| 12:49.34 | specing_ | Does someone have a working {uboot,kernel} that can boot android on the internal nand? (nandb) |
| 12:51.37 | specing_ | For the moment I get nothing but blackscreens... |
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| 13:06.30 | rm | anyone had multicast issues on the Mele? |
| 13:06.45 | rm | I have got an IPv6 capable kernel now, but IPv6 SLAAC doesn't work |
| 13:06.49 | rm | it relies on multicast afaik |
| 13:17.07 | Turl | idk what SLAAC is to be honest, but I can try ipv6 on my tablet |
| 13:17.38 | Turl | I've got radvd running and serving v6s to my LAN |
| 13:19.51 | Turl | rm: yup test-ipv6 website gives me my 10/10 + 9/10 on tablet |
| 13:20.00 | zenitraM | i wouldn't be surprised if phoenixcard images are "encrypted" |
| 13:20.06 | zenitraM | in some simple way |
| 13:20.30 | Turl | zenitraM: XORed with a fixed string? :) |
| 13:20.46 | zenitraM | more or less |
| 13:21.42 | Turl | what's phoenixcard btw? |
| 13:22.01 | zenitraM | it creates, from an .img file, a bootable sdcard which will flash a firmware on an a10 device |
| 13:22.06 | mnemoc | i had the hope there was a second hidden partition with the .img files |
| 13:23.04 | zenitraM | probably it reads them raw |
| 13:23.19 | zenitraM | in fact that partition is only for storing a logfile that is created after flashing |
| 13:23.54 | mnemoc | the vfat at 0x1500000 is a full "nanda" |
| 13:24.10 | Turl | copying the contents raw post-xor doesn't sound that crazy for such a sw |
| 13:24.43 | zenitraM | mmm mnemoc really? |
| 13:24.53 | zenitraM | that one is hidden? |
| 13:25.27 | mnemoc | hidden as "not part of the partition table" |
| 13:26.02 | mnemoc | that's what hipboi suggested to edit in the thread about making phoenixcard images erase the nand |
| 13:26.15 | zenitraM | then probably the rest are also there... |
| 13:26.27 | zenitraM | ..but you can't find them because they're packed android partitions |
| 13:27.07 | mnemoc | I did a dumb script to use blkid to detect partitions at different offsets |
| 13:27.16 | mnemoc | http://dpaste.com/764266/ |
| 13:27.23 | Turl | zenitraM: android partitions aren't any different than traditional desktop ones |
| 13:27.30 | zenitraM | http://omappedia.org/wiki/Android_eMMC_Booting#Modifying_.IMG_Files |
| 13:27.49 | zenitraM | http://code.google.com/p/usefulshellscript/source/browse/trunk/simg2img.py |
| 13:27.49 | mnemoc | it found some hfs+ and minix xpartitions, but they don't mount... so they are false positives |
| 13:28.04 | zenitraM | at least as unpacked from the livesuit/phoenix .img they won't mount |
| 13:28.08 | zenitraM | unless you apply simg2img |
| 13:28.58 | mnemoc | so we would need to write a toy to scann for raw 'simg' signatures |
| 13:29.53 | Turl | zenitraM: that's sparse ext4 |
| 13:30.05 | mnemoc | :( |
| 13:30.14 | zenitraM | *or* read the mbr to get the locations |
| 13:30.25 | zenitraM | i have a extracted with unimg ainol firmware here.. |
| 13:30.47 | zenitraM | [ 3:29 ] [ zenitram@atomico:~/code/Stuff/ainol/dumps/sun4i_crane_aino_20120114v2.img.dump ] |
| 13:30.47 | zenitraM | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.47 | zenitraM | softw311 |
| 13:30.47 | zenitraM | DISK |
| 13:30.47 | zenitraM | bootloader |
| 13:30.48 | zenitraM | DISK |
| 13:31.27 | zenitraM | probably that file contains the partition positions.. |
| 13:31.45 | zenitraM | grep for softw311 on the img |
| 13:31.58 | mnemoc | and it's fair to assume the raw data in the card uses the same format |
| 13:32.14 | zenitraM | probably |
| 13:32.20 | mnemoc | $ grep softw311 homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img |
| 13:32.21 | mnemoc | Binary file homlet_4.0_v1.0_20120609_dd.img matches |
| 13:32.53 | Turl | emilio@laptop:~/Descargas/ainol/3.1$ grep softw311 03F2-P1-H2-H01-AH40.20120301.img |
| 13:32.53 | Turl | emilio@laptop:~/Descargas/ainol/3.1$ |
| 13:32.58 | zenitraM | here's the file: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255615/12345678_1234567890___mbr |
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| 13:33.07 | zenitraM | Turl: that image is encrypted (before livesuite) |
| 13:33.21 | Turl | yeah, I guess so |
| 13:33.25 | zenitraM | the .img mnemoc has is a dump of a sdcard made with phoenixtool (that is, unencrypted) |
| 13:33.30 | Turl | unimg can unpack it |
| 13:34.40 | zenitraM | and there is another one containing softw311.. called dlinfo |
| 13:34.56 | zenitraM | probably one of them is the target mbr and other the sd mbr |
| 13:35.14 | zenitraM | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/255615/12345678_1234567890dlinfo |
| 13:35.49 | naobsd | hmm. it looks like [fastboot_key] key_max/key_min can be specified in script.bin as like as [recovery_key] |
| 13:36.29 | mnemoc | naobsd: boot1 is generated after data in script.bin |
| 13:36.37 | mnemoc | naobsd: before been injected on the devices |
| 13:37.13 | naobsd | mnemoc: in nanda? |
| 13:37.39 | mnemoc | nope, boot1 lives outside the logic nand space |
| 13:37.42 | Turl | naobsd: you can 'reboot bootloader' too to use it |
| 13:37.52 | Turl | naobsd: but it's pretty broken |
| 13:38.28 | naobsd | mnemoc: I'm still not sure boot procedure from NAND |
| 13:39.07 | mnemoc | naobsd: it's in rhombustech wiki |
| 13:39.10 | naobsd | Turl: you're talking about reboot command in android? |
| 13:39.47 | naobsd | mnemoc: sorry, I'm not sure about "outside of nand space" |
| 13:40.10 | Turl | naobsd: yes |
| 13:40.18 | Turl | mnemoc: btw look, http://pastebin.com/VrXuevpx |
| 13:40.45 | Turl | mnemoc: OC causes a software panic |
| 13:41.05 | Turl | mnemoc: I got the log with the ramconsole :) |
| 13:41.28 | mnemoc | Turl: problem introduced with the 3.0.36 update? |
| 13:41.34 | mnemoc | please file a ticket |
| 13:41.40 | Turl | mnemoc: I doubt it |
| 13:41.59 | naobsd | Turl: I'm sure about it. it uses misc partition. I'm thinking about physical key |
| 13:42.01 | Turl | it's pretty much stalled since.. all the time? even on stock stuff |
| 13:42.10 | mnemoc | naobsd: hno scanned the nand for boot0/boot1 and couldn't find them |
| 13:42.28 | Turl | mnemoc: I just got the log now because I have ramconsole :) |
| 13:42.40 | mnemoc | :) |
| 13:43.26 | naobsd | it seems u-boot uses recovery_key_value_max/recovery_key_value_min/fastboot_key_value_max/fastboot_key_value_min from env... hmm |
| 13:43.52 | Turl | mnemoc: feel free to cherry pick it next time you're around your tree :) |
| 13:44.15 | mnemoc | Turl: please file a ticket, I'll forget :< |
| 13:44.46 | Turl | mnemoc: ok |
| 13:47.48 | mnemoc | Turl: thanks :) |
| 13:48.03 | mnemoc | my external brain just ding'ed |
| 13:49.20 | naobsd | btw how fastboot mode broken? |
| 13:49.28 | naobsd | I only tried reboot command ;) |
| 13:50.01 | naobsd | if download and boot comman can be used, |
| 13:50.04 | Turl | naobsd: I tried reboot command on me and it crashed the device, wouldn't enumerate on usb anymore but it was still on fastboot mode |
| 13:50.12 | Turl | on mine* |
| 13:50.37 | rzk | zenitraM: phoenixcard & livesuit images are already reversed by RedScorpio |
| 13:51.00 | rzk | https://www.dropbox.com/s/s3t7xzgi377d8bb/imgDecoder.zip |
| 13:51.01 | naobsd | make new kernel -> upload via usb and boot it w/o flashing |
| 13:51.09 | rzk | https://www.dropbox.com/s/6yfqgi8h48jvnsq/imgRePacker.zip |
| 13:51.11 | mnemoc | rzk: sources or open documentation? |
| 13:51.13 | naobsd | w/o serial console |
| 13:51.27 | naobsd | is possible. it should be nice :) |
| 13:51.36 | rzk | mnemoc: closed source but not based on work of esgx & allwinner |
| 13:52.04 | mnemoc | rzk: XDA deserves the same message torvalds sent to nvidia |
| 13:53.46 | Turl | mnemoc: haha, pretty much :) |
| 13:53.56 | rzk | yeah, but atleast its not like esgx work, he stopped sharing after allwinner contacted him and demanded to stop it |
| 13:54.06 | Turl | mnemoc: there's one or two decent people though |
| 13:54.21 | naobsd | Turl: I forgot detail but misc partition need to be erased to exit fastboot mode (only when you used "reboot bootloader" command) |
| 13:54.33 | mnemoc | rzk: that wouldn't have happened if he had made his discoveries PUBLIC |
| 13:55.11 | mnemoc | same for this "RedScorpio" |
| 13:55.48 | naobsd | so I might try erase command too... |
| 13:59.00 | naobsd | when I was making CM7 for A10 w/o any information from allwinner, I talked some chinese guy |
| 13:59.26 | rzk | mnemoc: scorpios work doesnt envolve linux stuff, that .img unpacker and decryptor is for sochip ARM9 chips, they just use same livesuit and phoenix, so he has some excuse :D |
| 13:59.54 | naobsd | he asked me to wait CM7 release until he and his friend get source/sdk |
| 14:00.48 | rzk | sochip mp3 players and ereaders I mean. |
| 14:01.17 | naobsd | it seems he thought releasing CM7(or any "free" things) may change allwinner's mind |
| 14:01.26 | naobsd | to keep everything secret |
| 14:02.22 | naobsd | I'm not sure his worry was correct |
| 14:03.10 | naobsd | but "please don't make things open" might happen |
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| 14:04.00 | naobsd | in that country |
| 14:04.43 | rzk | mnemoc: also, why I am posting this: scorpios unpacker reads even default config for original packer. one of the lines: {filename = INPUT_DIR .. "home\lbzhang\workspace\lichee\tools\pack\eFex\usb\update_boot0.axf", maintype = "FET ", subtype = "UPDATE_BOOT0_000",}, |
| 14:05.03 | rzk | and etc... |
| 14:05.08 | rzk | might be usable for us |
| 14:05.35 | Turl | inverted slash \ :/ |
| 14:06.22 | naobsd | I don't like "wine unimg.exe foo.img" |
| 14:06.39 | naobsd | please port it to unices ;) |
| 14:07.21 | mnemoc | naobsd: tell the egomaniac author |
| 14:07.59 | rzk | I can contact him, but as he posted before on local russian forum about mp3 players, he doenst know linux at all and unpacker is just plain win32 C |
| 14:09.06 | DonkeyHotei | just ask for a description of the file format |
| 14:09.08 | mnemoc | rzk: he only needs to release the sources under a free license and others will port it |
| 14:09.20 | DonkeyHotei | no real need for source |
| 14:09.38 | mnemoc | source has already has, documentation... probably not |
| 14:09.51 | DonkeyHotei | good point |
| 14:14.58 | mnemoc | we only need him to paste a GPLv2+ header + copyright on top of the core .c files he already has |
| 14:15.21 | mnemoc | and it will become free for ever |
| 14:16.28 | specing_ | Ok, it booted with the new script.bin on nanda |
| 14:16.57 | specing_ | Does anyone know the function of nanda/script0.bin ? It seems to be identical to script.bin |
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| 14:17.33 | specing_ | Woo I have 4 serial ports now! |
| 14:17.41 | specing_ | # ls ttyS* |
| 14:17.41 | specing_ | ttyS0 |
| 14:17.41 | specing_ | ttyS2 |
| 14:17.41 | specing_ | ttyS4 |
| 14:17.42 | specing_ | ttyS6 |
| 14:18.22 | specing_ | But where did the odd ones go? |
| 14:18.51 | mnemoc | specing_: it's a backup |
| 14:19.34 | specing_ | Where did ttyS1, ttyS3 and ttyS7 go? |
| 14:19.43 | mnemoc | conflicting maybe? |
| 14:19.51 | specing_ | I know I have disabled tty#5 because of conflicts, but... |
| 14:19.55 | specing_ | <5>[ 0.000000] Kernel command line: console=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/nandb rw init=/init fbmem=32M@0x5a000000 loglevel=8 |
| 14:19.58 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x1c28000 (irq = 1) is a sw-uart0 |
| 14:20.01 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.300000] console [ttyS0] enabled |
| 14:20.05 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.310000] sw-uart.2: ttyS2 at MMIO 0x1c28800 (irq = 3) is a sw-uart2 |
| 14:20.06 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.310000] sw-uart.4: ttyS4 at MMIO 0x1c29000 (irq = 17) is a sw-uart4 |
| 14:20.10 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.320000] sw-uart.6: ttyS6 at MMIO 0x1c29800 (irq = 19) is a sw-uart6 |
| 14:21.55 | specing_ | Anyway, I think I now have some probing to do *yay* so exciting |
| 14:22.08 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:22.24 | specing_ | It would be nice to have all 7 ports there, though |
| 14:25.22 | Turl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56irE4Z4SC4 looks like a nice place to sit in & code :P |
| 14:43.54 | mnemoc | any place in G offices looks like a nice place to sit in and code |
| 14:58.59 | rm | excellent, my mk802 now runs with a server kernel with USB Ethernet support |
| 14:59.05 | rm | and 443 MB of RAM of 512 |
| 14:59.22 | RaYmAn | nice! |
| 14:59.30 | RaYmAn | well, assuming you have a 512mb version |
| 14:59.33 | rm | yes |
| 15:00.41 | rm | what's the limit in mA on its USB ports? |
| 15:00.56 | rm | and do both share the limit or are independent |
| 15:00.59 | rm | hmm |
| 15:01.00 | RaYmAn | limit? pfft, I doubt they put in any limitations ;) |
| 15:01.21 | mnemoc | until you see smoke and beyond! |
| 15:01.21 | rm | despite it already driving an ID 9710:7830 MosChip Semiconductor MCS7830 10/100 Mbps Ethernet adapter |
| 15:01.28 | rm | I want to go and plug in an USB HDD :) |
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| 15:01.51 | rm | but hey!!! no HDMI protection issue at least! |
| 15:01.53 | rm | :)) |
| 15:02.01 | RaYmAn | tbh, given the general quality of components etc, I'd be surprised if it didn't just die before saying no to power :P |
| 15:04.06 | rm | idling at 3.0 Watt @ 1000 Mhz |
| 15:04.12 | rm | at 2.6 Watt @ 60 Mhz |
| 15:04.16 | mnemoc | who will just die, the mk802 or the tv? :p |
| 15:04.33 | rm | tbh I'd be less frustrated about the tv dying |
| 15:04.38 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: we were talking usb, so mk802 :P |
| 15:04.40 | specing_ | hehe |
| 15:04.41 | rm | than this cute little thing :D |
| 15:04.48 | specing_ | I wouldn't miss my TV either |
| 15:05.02 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: but the device gets it's power from the unprotected hdmi |
| 15:05.07 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 15:05.20 | RaYmAn | then what is the power plug for? :P |
| 15:05.21 | specing_ | On an unrelated note, hardware ethernet is enabled on my tablet :O |
| 15:05.48 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: ah, ok... my fault. didn't know it used external power |
| 15:06.01 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: heh, thought you were joking |
| 15:06.21 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: it is powered either by external power or mini-usb |
| 15:06.26 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: nope, it was an honest mistake |
| 15:06.49 | rm | 50 Mbit RX, 70 Mbit TX from mk802 over that MCS7830 USB Ethernet |
| 15:07.10 | RaYmAn | that's from memory, isn't it? :P |
| 15:07.17 | mnemoc | i tend to forget that dongle wannabe is entangled with cables |
| 15:07.18 | rm | iperf |
| 15:07.22 | RaYmAn | yeah |
| 15:07.38 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: I do kind of regret not getting a mele instead :P |
| 15:07.44 | mnemoc | :p |
| 15:07.46 | rm | [ 680.300000] kmemleak: 3 new suspected memory leaks (see /sys/kernel/debug/kmemleak) |
| 15:07.47 | RaYmAn | except, this has 1gb ram! |
| 15:08.37 | mnemoc | let's hope we get a hackable device with 1GB A10 from luke or olinux or hipboi soon |
| 15:08.49 | RaYmAn | yeah |
| 15:08.54 | rzk | i bet on olinuxino |
| 15:09.38 | mnemoc | rzk: last news were that he will only put 512MB on the a10 based olinuxino |
| 15:09.56 | mnemoc | rzk: but hope he changes his mind |
| 15:11.11 | specing_ | hipboi is planning to design a box from scratch? |
| 15:12.09 | mnemoc | he gave some pointers about "his project" like a week ago |
| 15:12.41 | mnemoc | and yes, designing board and box from scrach |
| 15:13.01 | rm | 2nd USB port on the mk802 does not seem to work |
| 15:15.05 | rm | the one that requires the converter thingie from miniUSB-female |
| 15:15.13 | rm | maybe it needs to be modeswitched somehow? |
| 15:15.15 | rm | also |
| 15:15.21 | rm | mk802 is only very mildly warm |
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| 15:15.42 | rm | compared to when it was plugged into the display and running Android (extremely hot) |
| 15:16.14 | rzk | I wonder what is tjmax for a10 |
| 15:16.42 | rzk | in tiny mk802 case it can easily get 60+ |
| 15:16.53 | specing_ | rm I have a temporary heatsink and a fan to cool my tablet down |
| 15:21.10 | rm | point is |
| 15:21.17 | rm | with this kernel I have all the video parts disabled |
| 15:21.21 | rm | and memory freed |
| 15:21.30 | rm | I suppose it's those that were heating up the most |
| 15:22.23 | specing_ | Lucky you getting a system up |
| 15:22.41 | specing_ | I can't even boot stock android from nanda through mmc |
| 15:27.13 | rm | ha... mk802 has the Ethernet |
| 15:27.40 | rm | [ 21.810000] wemac wemac.0: enabling eth0 |
| 15:27.40 | rm | [ 21.830000] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready |
| 15:27.42 | specing_ | D: |
| 15:27.43 | rm | deep inside it |
| 15:27.49 | specing_ | :D |
| 15:28.05 | rm | the usb adapter even has to register as eth1 |
| 15:28.08 | specing_ | my tablet has it enabled, too |
| 15:28.44 | specing_ | rm: put: emac_used = 0 in script.bin and it will go away |
| 15:28.46 | rm | [ 1.640000] sun4i-ts: tp_screen_size is 5 inch. |
| 15:28.51 | rm | =_= it has a touch screen |
| 15:29.39 | rm | [ 0.940000] ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 mmio [mem 0x01c18000-0x01c18fff] port 0x100 irq 56 |
| 15:29.42 | rm | sata, too |
| 15:30.22 | rm | I am not too concerned about that |
| 15:30.36 | steev | ugh i really wish people would stop messaging me about that ainol 7 android image. i'm not that steev :( |
| 15:30.40 | rm | If building an mk802-specific kernel all these drivers can be disabled, but don't see the point |
| 15:32.49 | specing_ | steev: there is always /nick |
| 15:33.04 | specing_ | rm: power consumption |
| 15:33.33 | steev | specing_: i've been steev on irc since 97, i'm not about to change my nick cuz some guy on some random site in 2012 decides to use my name |
| 15:35.25 | mnemoc | settled with 'mnemoc' in 1997 too |
| 15:36.02 | traeak | i picked this nick back when mud was still cool |
| 15:36.12 | mnemoc | hehe |
| 15:36.37 | specing_ | steev: there is also umode +R |
| 15:38.26 | steev | what's that do? |
| 15:38.42 | steev | only registered members can message me? |
| 15:39.08 | mnemoc | just read "massage" ... uh |
| 15:39.11 | steev | that's not very nice, i hang out in irc channels where people privmsg me, i'm not going to require people to "sign up" just to chat at me. i'm not an android forum |
| 15:39.59 | steev | and while i normally do reserve my nick on most major sites out there, i can't be arsed for every f'n android forum, specially since i, overall, hate android |
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| 15:42.26 | rm | specing_, I don't think disabling sata/ethernet/TS is going to cut much from 3W |
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| 15:42.43 | steev | sata would |
| 15:42.44 | rm | considering they probably don't run anyway, having link down / no sata connection / no TS whatever |
| 15:42.54 | steev | ah, having no link |
| 15:43.04 | rm | it's all just in the chip |
| 15:43.20 | steev | assuming the hdmi stuff is really probing every 2 sec to see if there is a connection |
| 15:43.21 | rm | I doubt even the traces on the PCB are connected |
| 15:44.11 | rm | what's up with the second USB though :E |
| 15:44.27 | rm | is it configurable in the *.bin files maybe? |
| 15:44.56 | steev | speaking of, i wonder what my second one is for |
| 15:45.03 | steev | it doesn't charge the tablet, or seem to do anything |
| 15:45.37 | mnemoc | check if usb2 isn't bound to usb_wifi |
| 15:45.50 | rm | exactly!!! |
| 15:45.53 | mnemoc | if so, the wifi driver contrls it |
| 15:45.55 | rm | no |
| 15:46.07 | rm | [usbc0] usb_port_type = 0 |
| 15:46.15 | rm | [usbc1] usb_port_type = 1 |
| 15:46.30 | rm | 0: usb_host_init_state = 1 |
| 15:46.36 | rm | 1: usb_host_init_state = 0 |
| 15:48.06 | mnemoc | and usbc2 ? |
| 15:49.00 | specing_ | rm: try it |
| 15:49.42 | rm | there isn't usbc2 |
| 15:49.45 | rm | but there is [usb_wifi_para] |
| 15:50.16 | mnemoc | usb_wifi_para is used to power/unpower a usbc dedicated to the wifi, by the wifi driver |
| 15:50.32 | mnemoc | very naughty |
| 15:50.39 | traeak | hmm ? |
| 15:51.15 | mnemoc | `modprobe my_wifi_driver` powers the usb host channel |
| 15:51.33 | mnemoc | instead of doing proper power management |
| 15:51.36 | traeak | hehe |
| 15:51.52 | specing_ | fires up his scope |
| 15:52.02 | rm | I wonder if I disabled the working port |
| 15:52.08 | rm | instead of enabling the nonworking one |
| 15:52.50 | DonkeyHotei | presumably you could put proper power management on top of that |
| 15:53.33 | mnemoc | having infinite time, sure |
| 15:54.30 | DonkeyHotei | usb is usb |
| 15:56.31 | mnemoc | just for curiosity, any mediawiki expert lingering here? |
| 15:57.07 | specing_ | #mediawiki :P |
| 15:57.30 | rm | wait a second |
| 15:57.40 | rm | <rm> there isn't usbc2 <- I am just blind, there is |
| 15:58.00 | mnemoc | rm: usb_used = 1 ? |
| 15:59.42 | rm | mnemoc, this is the default config I had, where the female USB doesn't work http://dpaste.com/764405/ |
| 16:00.38 | rm | so "usb_port_type = 1" is supposedly USB host then? |
| 16:00.43 | rm | and =0 is OTG? |
| 16:00.47 | mnemoc | yes |
| 16:01.04 | mnemoc | what's in usb_wifi_para ? |
| 16:01.11 | rm | and host_init_state? |
| 16:01.15 | mnemoc | power |
| 16:01.20 | rm | [usb_wifi_para] |
| 16:01.22 | rm | usb_wifi_used = 1 |
| 16:01.22 | rm | usb_wifi_usbc_num = 2 |
| 16:01.24 | rm | that is all |
| 16:01.33 | mnemoc | so usbc2 is controlled by the wifi driver |
| 16:01.46 | mnemoc | usbc0 is wired by disabled by default |
| 16:02.39 | mnemoc | s/by/but/ |
| 16:09.36 | rm | hm |
| 16:09.42 | rm | I don't see the wifi in lsusb |
| 16:09.54 | specing_ | I've probed the entire top side of my tablet...nothing :( |
| 16:10.18 | rm | it was there the previous try, bizzare as it is, I am guessing usb_host_init_state affected ti |
| 16:10.19 | rm | it |
| 16:12.18 | rm | "bizzare" because I was sure I didn't touch usbc2 |
| 16:12.24 | rm | only changing usbc0 and 1 |
| 16:13.09 | mnemoc | the usbc used by usb_wifi always comes disabled |
| 16:13.44 | mnemoc | the allwinner-ized wifi drivers start by enabling them |
| 16:14.02 | mnemoc | and setting them off again on exit |
| 16:14.17 | rm | aha, now I see the wifi indeed |
| 16:14.19 | specing_ | Ups, short circuit |
| 16:14.24 | specing_ | A10 still alive |
| 16:15.07 | rm | so the final config is this http://dpaste.com/764416/ |
| 16:15.17 | rm | both wired USB enabled, and wifi visible by default |
| 16:15.21 | mnemoc | specing_: after watching a few videos of chinese factories I'm sure these chips are VERY tolerant to shocks |
| 16:15.56 | rm | I guess my rtl8192cu is not allwinnerized |
| 16:16.10 | rm | because modprobe'ing it on previous boot didn't make the wifi appear in lsusb |
| 16:16.42 | mnemoc | the allwinnerized 8192cu driver is separated from mainline's |
| 16:19.08 | specing_ | hehe |
| 16:23.30 | specing_ | Still can't find a serial port |
| 16:23.42 | specing_ | Though i did find a nice waveform close to the PMU |
| 16:24.57 | specing_ | Does someone know why 3 of the UARTs aren't enabled? |
| 16:26.40 | traeak | nce to seek lckl luke spill more info about that new processor |
| 16:26.41 | specing_ | I've only disabled UART5 |
| 16:26.58 | specing_ | traeak:? |
| 16:27.18 | traeak | http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.netbook.arm/3493 |
| 16:27.34 | traeak | bottom half of the post |
| 16:29.08 | traeak | http://www.icubetech.com.hk/news.php?section=1017 |
| 16:30.17 | traeak | http://icubecorp.com/ |
| 16:30.20 | traeak | i guess that;'s the fancier site |
| 16:30.37 | mnemoc | not in http://www.arm.com/products/processors/licensees.php |
| 16:31.16 | traeak | it's still vapor |
| 16:31.17 | mnemoc | meh, thought the list was more... complete |
| 16:31.23 | traeak | and it's not an arm core |
| 16:31.57 | traeak | apparently they're using open64 (why would they do that?) |
| 16:32.23 | traeak | which means it's still related to mips |
| 16:33.16 | traeak | maybe anyways it's still vapor so not short term interesting |
| 16:33.37 | mnemoc | +1 |
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| 16:40.45 | RaYmAn | rm: fwiw, the second usb port works fine here with the included plug adapter. At least with stock kernels |
| 16:43.26 | rm | in Android? |
| 16:43.58 | rm | it worked for me in Android too |
| 16:44.08 | RITRedbeard | I'm excited. |
| 16:44.20 | RaYmAn | rm: also in ubuntu |
| 16:44.23 | RITRedbeard | My MK802 finally left Shenzen and Hong Kong on the 23rd. |
| 16:44.23 | rm | but on this bin file I happened to use (it's even called "mele_stock.bin") the configuration was to not use the port |
| 16:44.39 | rm | all works fine now after the changes |
| 16:47.32 | rm | and (yay too), tomtop shipped something by the tracking number they gave, yesterday |
| 16:47.41 | mnemoc | why would you use an script.bin from the mele in a mk802??? |
| 16:47.49 | rm | let's hope it's an actual mk802 with 1GB |
| 16:47.57 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: because you can! :P |
| 16:48.11 | mnemoc | :) |
| 16:49.18 | rm | I used whatever I found, in this case http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_image/ |
| 16:49.30 | rm | boot and debian partitions from there |
| 16:51.12 | rm | so, by the way |
| 16:51.18 | rm | it's called mele_stock.bin |
| 16:51.32 | rm | but where it's recorded that a file named like that will be loaded from SD? |
| 16:51.49 | rm | in uboot? |
| 16:51.59 | mnemoc | uboot's env |
| 16:52.18 | rm | where is it stored? |
| 16:52.46 | mnemoc | somewhere in the first 1M of the card |
| 16:52.58 | rm | I see |
| 16:53.04 | rm | well, that's awesome |
| 16:53.49 | mnemoc | but it's checksumed, so you can only edit it from the u-boot console |
| 16:53.58 | rm | d'oh |
| 16:54.56 | mnemoc | printenv; setenv; saveenv are your friends :) |
| 16:55.18 | rm | I did not need the serial console so far |
| 16:55.24 | mnemoc | hno's u-boot supports boot.scr |
| 16:55.29 | RaYmAn | is it allwinner special checksumming or just generic stuff |
| 16:55.30 | RaYmAn | ? |
| 16:55.34 | rm | if I just keep naming them mele_stock.bin, guess I won't need it at all |
| 16:55.55 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: u-boot env? nah, just normal stuff |
| 16:56.09 | rm | well then an editing tool is possible |
| 16:56.14 | mnemoc | rm: the right name is script.bin |
| 16:56.29 | mnemoc | rm: all other names only bring confusion |
| 16:56.32 | rm | there are like five of *.bin in that boot partition |
| 16:56.32 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: 'k, so presumably just 'compile' script as usual then write it to there? |
| 16:56.43 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: yes |
| 16:56.50 | rm | and by experimentation I have determined that mele_stock is the one that's actually used :) |
| 16:57.04 | rm | but ok |
| 16:57.16 | rm | there's evb.bin, I was also wondering if maybe that's the proper name... etc |
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| 16:57.46 | mnemoc | evb = evaluation board |
| 17:01.31 | mnemoc | rm: in the momemnt you modify mele_stock.bin and stops been the stock scrippt.bin from mele the name becomes a problem |
| 17:03.41 | mnemoc | evb.bin is supposed to be the script.bin to be used in the devkit |
| 17:03.58 | mnemoc | misusing names only brings confusion |
| 17:05.19 | rm | agreed |
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| 17:05.37 | rm | but at least I am not uploading my uboots and boot partitions for people to use (yet :) |
| 17:05.51 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 17:20.57 | graffiti | does anyone managed to port cisf.ko and slow-work.ko on mele or any other A10 devices |
| 17:27.44 | mnemoc | what are those? |
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| 17:34.42 | mnemoc | f*... I missed the start of google io :( |
| 17:37.22 | mnemoc | I knew there was something I want to watch today :'( |
| 17:39.38 | RaYmAn | aww |
| 17:39.50 | RaYmAn | you just missed nexus 7" tab and Nexus Q |
| 17:43.14 | mnemoc | watching the Q right now |
| 17:43.25 | graffiti | they are kenel module to mount samba file system |
| 17:43.38 | mnemoc | graffiti: cifs != cisf |
| 17:43.58 | mnemoc | graffiti: it doesn't compile? |
| 17:44.02 | graffiti | mnemoc: yes |
| 17:45.01 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: did they say what kernel are they going to use in 4.1? |
| 17:45.15 | RaYmAn | no, not afaik |
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| 17:45.19 | RaYmAn | rumors say 3.4 though |
| 17:45.53 | traeak | google huh? |
| 17:46.05 | graffiti | mnemoc: i am not a programmer guy.. so no idea how to do it :-P |
| 17:46.09 | RITRedbeard | dumb question: any A10/MK802 kernels/images ready for config and booting? |
| 17:46.33 | RITRedbeard | I haven't looked particularly, been burning up trying to find the right damned connectors for my lapdock... |
| 17:46.59 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: did they say anything about when will 4.1 be open sourced? |
| 17:47.10 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: mid july |
| 17:47.17 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: thanks |
| 17:47.29 | mnemoc | 2012, right? :p |
| 17:47.33 | RaYmAn | yes |
| 17:47.34 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 17:47.37 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:47.42 | RaYmAn | same time nexus 7" tab starts shipping |
| 17:47.52 | RaYmAn | that's assuming they'd actually sell it to me |
| 17:48.18 | mnemoc | have a CC with billing address in the states? :( |
| 17:48.45 | RaYmAn | taxes would be killer :/ |
| 17:49.06 | RaYmAn | they said they'd sell to UK like, now, so I'm getting a friend to try that as soon as it's actually available for sale |
| 17:49.15 | mnemoc | nice |
| 17:54.45 | zenitraM | also, a platform development kit (only for OEMs for now apparently) with porting-resources |
| 17:55.05 | zenitraM | released to OEMs in advance of the android release |
| 17:55.35 | RaYmAn | that's a good step definitely |
| 17:55.40 | zenitraM | a nice UI and.. a bit frightening Google Now feature which will predict stuff about your life |
| 17:55.50 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 17:55.58 | RaYmAn | hey, they know eveyrthing about you anyways |
| 17:56.11 | zenitraM | including showing sport results of the team google thinks you like the most because of your searches |
| 18:15.27 | zenitraM | mnemoc: i just got my ooferton sdcards... |
| 18:16.29 | zenitraM | they come as-is on the envelope, without no case or anything |
| 18:17.03 | zenitraM | with a blub of yellow glue on top of the label, one of the labels is ripped off by that glue |
| 18:17.09 | zenitraM | and they are class 2, not class 4 |
| 18:17.10 | zenitraM | :@ |
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| 18:19.21 | mnemoc | zenitraM: :( |
| 18:19.40 | zenitraM | could they be crappier? |
| 18:19.50 | RaYmAn | not all class2's are crappy? :/ |
| 18:20.29 | zenitraM | i mean where i bought them from, sold as class4 |
| 18:26.28 | zenitraM | http://i.imgur.com/8vo0n.jpg |
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| 18:53.45 | rm | does RTL8188CUS WiFi work reliably? |
| 18:53.50 | rm | it doesn't, right |
| 18:54.37 | rm | remember complaints here about it locking up or something |
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| 18:59.11 | specing_ | zenitraM: wtf? |
| 18:59.44 | specing_ | Are they... punctured? |
| 19:01.23 | Turl | rm: doesn't for me |
| 19:01.31 | Turl | but I hacked it to reset when they derp :) |
| 19:01.40 | Turl | ah wait |
| 19:01.45 | zenitraM | specing_: yep |
| 19:01.46 | Turl | I have 81*92*CU |
| 19:01.47 | Turl | no S |
| 19:01.50 | zenitraM | and they don't even seem new |
| 19:01.57 | zenitraM | running strings /dev/sdb |
| 19:01.59 | zenitraM | shows stuff as: |
| 19:02.02 | zenitraM | M*A*S*HhRadar gets a Dear John recording from home. Hawkeye and Trapper try to set him up with a date, but fail.T |
| 19:03.32 | rm | I'm imagining a set up where MK802 will be a server, but a WiFi-only one |
| 19:03.38 | Turl | zenitraM: ouch |
| 19:03.43 | specing_ | zenitraM: lol and they still work? |
| 19:03.44 | rm | and to move my home page onto that :) |
| 19:03.48 | specing_ | amazing |
| 19:03.58 | specing_ | zenitraM: How much did you pay for them? |
| 19:04.00 | zenitraM | the damage is only to the label |
| 19:04.10 | zenitraM | 3 for each |
| 19:04.18 | zenitraM | incl. shipping |
| 19:04.28 | specing_ | Is that sign euro? |
| 19:04.33 | zenitraM | mmm yup |
| 19:04.35 | Turl | I see a ? |
| 19:04.36 | Turl | :) |
| 19:04.48 | specing_ | I see a @ with white background |
| 19:04.52 | Turl | y u no utf8 :) |
| 19:05.02 | specing_ | ASCII ftw :) |
| 19:05.05 | Turl | € <- this is euro |
| 19:05.19 | zenitraM | whatever, gonna try to carve the deleted contents |
| 19:05.37 | zenitraM | Turl: strangely enough your euro looks fine, which shouldn't happen if i'm using the wrong encoding |
| 19:06.35 | Turl | zenitraM: run photorec on it |
| 19:06.37 | Turl | zenitraM: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec |
| 19:06.46 | zenitraM | Turl: already did, no files |
| 19:06.53 | Turl | (it's not just for photos) |
| 19:07.03 | Turl | so maybe they half wiped it ot make it quicker? :P |
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| 19:08.13 | Turl | from what I hear, we'll need new mali libs for 4.1 |
| 19:08.45 | zenitraM | mnemoc: they gave all the attendants a galaxy nexus, a nexus 7 and a nexus q |
| 19:08.58 | zenitraM | and they're all getting 4.1 OTAs on the next hours |
| 19:08.59 | mnemoc | *envy* |
| 19:09.16 | mnemoc | hopefully someone will kidnap that OTA |
| 19:09.18 | Turl | that's 350 for the gnex, 199 for the tablet and 299 for the q |
| 19:09.21 | zenitraM | so probably the OTA for the nexus will be published soon |
| 19:09.35 | Turl | 850US of value for a 900$ ticket :P |
| 19:09.45 | mnemoc | hopefully someone will kidnap that OTA |
| 19:09.47 | mnemoc | err |
| 19:09.49 | mnemoc | *envy* |
| 19:10.10 | zenitraM | also developer preorder for google glasses, only for us-based IO attendants, 1500 usd |
| 19:10.44 | mnemoc | $1500 doesn't sound THAT awful |
| 19:11.18 | Turl | consider a really high end phone costs 1/3 of that |
| 19:11.29 | Turl | and the hw parts are prolly the same or lower end |
| 19:11.35 | zenitraM | and it's a low-ran prototype |
| 19:12.29 | zenitraM | also if the nexus 7 finally comes worldwide it is a serious competitor for our *sigh* crappy chinese tablets at that price |
| 19:13.13 | mnemoc | $200 in USA becomes 250E + VAT + shipping |
| 19:13.15 | Turl | that was google's point - to get a hold of all the tablet low end |
| 19:14.07 | mnemoc | it's very ugly how EU/UK distributors bloat the prices |
| 19:14.38 | mnemoc | $1 flat = 1 pound without shipping or taxes |
| 19:14.53 | mnemoc | s/flat/final/ |
| 19:15.26 | zenitraM | mmm let's see how much it is on the UK |
| 19:15.39 | RaYmAn | 168.99GBP incl. shipping |
| 19:15.40 | RaYmAn | :P |
| 19:16.15 | Turl | incl vat? |
| 19:16.25 | RaYmAn | ya, incl. everything |
| 19:16.49 | mnemoc | 170 GBP = $265 |
| 19:17.16 | Turl | so 65US$ extra |
| 19:17.19 | zenitraM | = 209 eur |
| 19:17.53 | RaYmAn | taxes and VAT takes up part of it |
| 19:18.36 | Turl | RaYmAn: add to that shipping from uk to you |
| 19:18.49 | RaYmAn | not too expensive usually |
| 19:18.51 | Turl | and customs |
| 19:18.58 | RaYmAn | no customs |
| 19:18.59 | RaYmAn | it's within EU |
| 19:19.18 | Turl | you really have no customs at all within EU? |
| 19:19.24 | specing_ | yep |
| 19:19.27 | mnemoc | hopes they publish the full event video soon |
| 19:19.29 | zenitraM | Schengen zone |
| 19:19.31 | specing_ | also no border checking |
| 19:19.33 | Turl | no wonder EU is crashing :P |
| 19:19.39 | specing_ | yep |
| 19:19.45 | RaYmAn | well, UK customs/vat |
| 19:19.46 | zenitraM | they wanted to stop it for Greece |
| 19:19.47 | mnemoc | zenitraM: UK is not on schengen ;-) |
| 19:19.54 | RaYmAn | but between EU countries, no |
| 19:20.08 | specing_ | lol |
| 19:20.11 | RaYmAn | yeah, Uk requires passport checking, lol |
| 19:20.15 | RaYmAn | annoying :P |
| 19:20.18 | mnemoc | very |
| 19:20.34 | Turl | they require visas too right? |
| 19:20.38 | mnemoc | nope |
| 19:20.42 | RaYmAn | not within EU |
| 19:20.42 | Turl | (for non-EU) |
| 19:20.44 | RaYmAn | they can't legally |
| 19:20.45 | RaYmAn | sure |
| 19:20.52 | RaYmAn | for non-EU i think all countries require visa? |
| 19:20.52 | zenitraM | mnemoc: i think they are for importing/exporting |
| 19:21.22 | zenitraM | if not amazon could possibly not ship half of their .es stock from UK |
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| 19:21.39 | mnemoc | zenitraM: I lost count of the different zones within europe |
| 19:22.13 | RaYmAn | still, I'd rather have a quadcore IPS tablet for 250$ than a single-core cortex a8 with 512mb ram and crappy screen from china ;) |
| 19:22.52 | RaYmAn | I'm not sure how to explain getting to anyone that I'm getting another tegra3 tablet though |
| 19:22.55 | RaYmAn | :P |
| 19:23.10 | RaYmAn | s/getting to// |
| 19:23.11 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: A10/1GB/7" IPS are ~$120 ;-) |
| 19:23.22 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: still singlecore :P |
| 19:23.37 | Turl | RaYmAn: and they have 1G ram :) |
| 19:23.50 | RaYmAn | Turl: which? |
| 19:24.03 | RaYmAn | I thought most of the allwinner stuff had 512 |
| 19:24.06 | RaYmAn | anyways |
| 19:24.16 | Turl | there's similar share between 512 and 1G |
| 19:24.17 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: but I agree this nexus tab is a good deal |
| 19:24.45 | RaYmAn | the real question is how open it will be |
| 19:24.58 | RaYmAn | I mean, google usually leaves them fairly open, but.. |
| 19:25.14 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: A10 tabs from 2011 were 512, most 2012 models are 1GB |
| 19:25.19 | RaYmAn | ah |
| 19:25.48 | RaYmAn | 340g is pretty good really |
| 19:25.50 | mnemoc | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCp34EElAEA <--- keynote published |
| 19:26.17 | RaYmAn | mnemoc: what res are those IPS on 7"? |
| 19:26.20 | Turl | RaYmAn: just go and look at stingray/wingray |
| 19:26.33 | Turl | it's a crapton of props and little to no source :( |
| 19:26.48 | RaYmAn | Turl: true, but it just never really felt like a true nexus device :P |
| 19:28.36 | Turl | ICS market share is growing https://developer.android.com/about/dashboards/index.html |
| 19:29.05 | zenitraM | mnemoc: if you want to start worrying at what google knows about you, go to 31:31 |
| 19:29.28 | Turl | gingerbread is like android XP tho |
| 19:29.54 | mnemoc | RaYmAn: 1024x600 |
| 19:30.41 | RaYmAn | these are 1280x800 |
| 19:30.46 | RaYmAn | 216ppi! |
| 19:30.47 | RaYmAn | lol |
| 19:30.52 | RaYmAn | it's retina!!!! ;P |
| 19:30.57 | RaYmAn | (bullshit term these days) |
| 19:31.45 | Turl | mine is 1024x768 10" |
| 19:32.14 | zenitraM | my 4,65'' phone is 1280x720 |
| 19:32.18 | RaYmAn | heh |
| 19:32.27 | mnemoc | my wife's 9.7" is 1024x768 too |
| 19:32.29 | Turl | zenitraM: wtf phone is that? :P |
| 19:32.46 | RaYmAn | doesn't matter much in real life I guess, but it adds to the cost |
| 19:32.50 | Turl | my gnex is HD :P |
| 19:33.05 | Turl | and I have a 4" qHD |
| 19:33.52 | zenitraM | Turl: that wtf phone is.. the gnex? :P |
| 19:34.11 | Turl | zenitraM: the gnex is 4.3" or 4.2" |
| 19:34.15 | Turl | definitely not 4.65" |
| 19:34.33 | zenitraM | oh well it appears as 4.65" here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_displays_by_pixel_density |
| 19:35.10 | Turl | zenitraM: hm, I stand corrected :o the gnex is listed as 4.65 on the interwebz heh |
| 19:35.24 | Turl | I was convinced it was like 4.3" :) |
| 19:36.26 | zenitraM | that's due to it looking bigger when you don't own it |
| 19:38.11 | Turl | zenitraM: heh |
| 19:38.52 | zenitraM | and mine has a 3800mAh ultra-extended battery, which makes it not only huge but bulky |
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| 19:57.44 | Turl | zenitraM: the stock battery is good though |
| 19:58.02 | Turl | it gets through my day tbh, and I keep 3G on |
| 19:58.16 | Turl | even inside uni where there's pretty much no signal :P |
| 20:00.35 | specing_ | <3>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.1: failed to claim resource 0 |
| 20:00.35 | specing_ | <3>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.3: failed to claim resource 0 |
| 20:00.35 | specing_ | <3>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.5: failed to claim resource 0 |
| 20:00.36 | specing_ | <3>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.7: failed to claim resource 0 |
| 20:00.38 | specing_ | :O |
| 20:00.59 | specing_ | Looks like I have found the reason why odd-numbered serial ports are not showing |
| 20:03.03 | mnemoc | is happy with the battery of his galaxy nexus too. but I have a usb battery with 2 18650 inside ready just in case |
| 20:03.49 | specing_ | <6>[ 14.820000] Mali: mali clock set completed, clock is 320000000 Mhz // Wow, now I know why the chip is so hot! |
| 20:04.06 | Turl | specing_: lol |
| 20:04.12 | Turl | that's 320Mhz |
| 20:04.22 | specing_ | applies nitrogen cooling |
| 20:04.45 | Turl | specing_: I tried upping the clock to like 400 something, graphics didn't work at all then :) |
| 20:05.11 | specing_ | googles his serial problem |
| 20:05.46 | A0Sheds | "When talk with Chinese people at this age, you should put MONEY first at your head, FREEDOM on the last one, the LAW may be the penultimate. Don't tell them that they should open the source, buy the copyright and release the source under GPL by yourself. " |
| 20:06.18 | A0Sheds | from that message should we conclude that we should buy the copyright for a few thousand $ and then change it to GPL? |
| 20:07.03 | A0Sheds | "In China, you can hire a very good IC or software developer |
| 20:07.03 | A0Sheds | by salary of U.S. $ 2000-3000." |
| 20:07.09 | specing_ | Are you sure it is just a few thousand $ ? |
| 20:07.25 | A0Sheds | so $6K for 2 years of work :) |
| 20:07.57 | rz2k | allwinner is too popular right now for $2k, lol. |
| 20:09.49 | A0Sheds | so all we have to do is chip in $60 ea and it's ours! |
| 20:09.58 | A0Sheds | ($60 x 100 devs) |
| 20:10.38 | specing_ | Would anyone know the solution to my UART problem^? |
| 20:10.51 | zenitraM | if the deal includes tom i'm in |
| 20:10.57 | A0Sheds | somehow I don't think is that what she meant |
| 20:12.11 | rz2k | A0Sheds: croudfunding A10 devboard with latest sources will be more like it |
| 20:12.22 | rz2k | eoma68 stuff seems to progress very slowly |
| 20:13.07 | specing_ | similar: http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg174509.html |
| 20:18.24 | mnemoc | http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/see-googles-nexus-q-dissected-piece-by-piece-courtesy-of-wired/ |
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| 20:31.23 | Turl | mnemoc: the video @ the keynote showed a 3d dissection of it |
| 20:31.46 | mnemoc | nice |
| 20:32.10 | Turl | mnemoc: it has the same chip as galaxy nexus |
| 20:32.22 | Turl | OMAP 4430 iirc |
| 20:32.32 | mnemoc | Turl: In 30m I can start watching the whole keynote video |
| 20:32.42 | Turl | it's ~2h :P |
| 20:33.24 | mnemoc | I rarely sleep before 1:30am anyway |
| 20:33.27 | traeak | what sort of interface connections are there? |
| 20:33.29 | traeak | just usb ? |
| 20:34.04 | mnemoc | i remember they mentioned hackability in the presentation |
| 20:34.18 | mnemoc | but wasn't really paying attention |
| 20:34.54 | traeak | too expensive |
| 20:35.19 | zenitraM | also 4.1 has vsync, triple buffering and kernel-level profiling of all the things |
| 20:36.26 | mnemoc | traeak: people would pay 2.5x if it was white and had an apple logo :p |
| 20:36.40 | traeak | except this is more expensive than apple tv |
| 20:37.20 | zenitraM | and also has a built-in amp |
| 20:37.48 | mnemoc | I might be a G fanboy, but I don't find it expensive |
| 20:38.04 | mnemoc | not cheap, but neither expensive |
| 20:39.02 | mnemoc | I suppose the "Designed and Manufactured in the USA" on it's bottom raises the costs a lot |
| 20:39.31 | mnemoc | not that I care if the americans starve to death anyway... |
| 20:39.56 | traeak | i just wish it were the american politicians starving to death |
| 20:39.57 | mnemoc | but it's nice they launch nationaly made products |
| 20:40.27 | Turl | now europe needs to start doing the same :p |
| 20:40.46 | mnemoc | even the rpi failed to do that |
| 20:41.19 | traeak | heh |
| 20:41.27 | traeak | rpi is right now fail due to hardware issues |
| 20:42.26 | hno | But... 50% is missing from that teardown. What do the other side look like? |
| 20:44.21 | hno | mnemoc, they explained quite well in the article why it's made locally, speed and flexibility. Apparently they had a very very tight schedule, even delivering test units home to testers same day they were built. |
| 20:45.16 | mnemoc | hno: nice |
| 20:46.03 | mnemoc | hno: so now they send it to china so they can profit from the $299 tag |
| 20:46.06 | mnemoc | :p |
| 20:46.34 | hno | points dyoung-away with his whole hand at the IRC away status indication. |
| 20:47.12 | hno | mnemoc, likely to happen if there is a significant demand for it. |
| 20:49.21 | traeak | ive' got one of those t-amp dealies, works pretty well actually |
| 20:49.25 | traeak | although now it's all in the basement |
| 20:49.40 | traeak | have to put a new floor in the family room, then will probably hook all that junk up |
| 20:50.18 | traeak | https://play.google.com/store/devices/details?id=nexus_q |
| 20:50.21 | traeak | looks like no usb |
| 20:51.05 | zenitraM | he said it had a microusb for "general hackery" |
| 20:51.11 | zenitraM | Sorry! Devices on Google Play is not available in your country yet. |
| 20:51.12 | zenitraM | We're working to bring devices to more countries as quickly as possible. |
| 20:51.14 | zenitraM | :< |
| 20:51.42 | traeak | http://www.vizio.com/costar/features |
| 20:51.44 | traeak | compare to that |
| 20:51.47 | traeak | 99usd |
| 20:54.57 | eFfeM | traeak: no sd |
| 20:55.25 | traeak | usb can fix that |
| 20:55.27 | eFfeM | can't order here too |
| 20:55.28 | traeak | somewhat |
| 20:55.32 | eFfeM | yes |
| 20:55.44 | eFfeM | for usd 199 it is a bargain I'd say |
| 20:55.48 | traeak | the answer here is: i won't buy either of them so it's kind of irrelevant |
| 20:56.15 | traeak | 99usd, not 199 |
| 20:56.40 | traeak | anywaysw |
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| 21:20.45 | specing_ | <3>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.1: failed to claim resource 0 |
| 21:20.46 | specing_ | <3>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.3: failed to claim resource 0 |
| 21:20.46 | specing_ | <3>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.6: failed to claim resource 0 |
| 21:20.46 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.290000] sw-uart.0: ttyS0 at MMIO 0x1c28000 (irq = 1) is a sw-uart0 |
| 21:20.48 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.310000] sw-uart.2: ttyS2 at MMIO 0x1c28800 (irq = 3) is a sw-uart2 |
| 21:20.51 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.310000] sw-uart.5: ttyS5 at MMIO 0x1c29400 (irq = 18) is a sw-uart5 |
| 21:20.54 | specing_ | <6>[ 0.320000] sw-uart.7: ttyS7 at MMIO 0x1c29c00 (irq = 20) is a sw-uart7 |
| 21:21.01 | specing_ | It looks like the driver is unable to handle more than 4 uarts? |
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| 21:29.43 | specing_ | Or is it out of IRQs? |
| 21:30.21 | specing_ | Nah, it isn't that |
| 21:30.35 | hno | what's resource 0 in the platform device? |
| 21:31.00 | specing_ | I think the "support more than 4 serial ports" option is unchecked in kconfig |
| 21:31.11 | specing_ | hno: I have no idea |
| 21:33.33 | mnemoc | resource 0 is memory range and resource 1 the ieq |
| 21:33.36 | mnemoc | irq |
| 21:34.07 | mnemoc | 4 ports max for sun5i and 8 for sun4i |
| 21:34.23 | specing_ | A10 is sun4i |
| 21:34.30 | specing_ | So it should allow more than 4 ports |
| 21:34.52 | specing_ | It stinks like that Kconfig option was not enabled |
| 21:35.26 | mnemoc | you do have uart>3 already |
| 21:35.41 | mnemoc | so it's not a Kconfig thing. likely an script.bin thing |
| 21:36.30 | mnemoc | or code... |
| 21:36.34 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.35 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.38 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.41 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.50 | mnemoc | the first .end looks... weird |
| 21:37.13 | specing_ | 22:15 < specing_> similar: http://www.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg174509.html |
| 21:37.51 | hno | mnemoc, weird how? |
| 21:38.48 | hno | #define UART_BASE_OS (0x400) |
| 21:38.48 | hno | #define UARTx_BASE(x) (UART_BASE + (x) * UART_BASE_OS) |
| 21:38.49 | mnemoc | hno: feels larger than it should |
| 21:38.53 | mnemoc | ok |
| 21:39.35 | mnemoc | it's fine then |
| 21:39.55 | hno | No idea what they meant with _OS |
| 21:40.25 | hno | many things lost in translation in the sources. |
| 21:41.20 | mnemoc | maybe "minimal step in this OS" |
| 21:41.48 | mnemoc | like a unit |
| 21:42.40 | mnemoc | but it's a chip thing, not os... |
| 21:43.01 | hno | UART_CHAN_IO_STRIDE would make more sense. |
| 21:45.25 | hno | but does not matter. |
| 21:47.31 | hno | And it's not page size constraints either. UARD 0 & 2 is both in the same 4K page. |
| 21:50.12 | mnemoc | with 0x400 they should all fit in the same page |
| 21:51.07 | hno | only 0-4. |
| 21:51.30 | mnemoc | meh, yes |
| 21:51.44 | hno | s/4/3 |
| 21:51.51 | hno | 0-3 |
| 21:51.55 | hno | and 3-7 |
| 21:51.59 | hno | s/3/4/ |
| 21:52.13 | mnemoc | but he gets 2 allocated on each |
| 21:52.21 | hno | yes.. which is odd. |
| 21:52.34 | hno | no obvious pattern. |
| 21:52.51 | mnemoc | race? |
| 21:52.57 | hno | doubt |
| 21:53.16 | specing_ | I got the same uarts after a reboot now |
| 21:55.41 | specing_ | See "device drivers" -> "character devices" -> "serial port": there is a "support more than 4 *550 uarts" option |
| 21:56.04 | specing_ | the A10 datasheet mentions that the uarts are *550 compatible |
| 21:56.37 | mnemoc | drivers are 8250 |
| 21:56.48 | specing_ | I did an another run with the scope with those new uarts and still nothing... :( |
| 21:56.53 | technologov_ | why is UART so important for you ? For RS-232 serial for kernel debug ? |
| 21:57.01 | specing_ | yes |
| 21:57.13 | mnemoc | 8 of them? |
| 21:57.17 | specing_ | I haven't managed to boot a costum mmc/uboot |
| 21:57.20 | technologov_ | It can be done via netconsole |
| 21:57.29 | technologov_ | (a kernel module to debug via Ethernet layer 2) |
| 21:57.49 | specing_ | mnemoc: Its easier to probe with a scope if they are all running and constantly outputing a specific byte |
| 21:57.57 | mnemoc | :) |
| 21:58.04 | specing_ | technologov_: only USB wifi here |
| 21:58.45 | specing_ | mnemoc: see https://ajdef.dynsite.net/A10-MID/hacking/ |
| 21:59.23 | specing_ | byte 170 is what Im looking for |
| 21:59.36 | specing_ | You can't miss it with a scope |
| 22:00.46 | specing_ | It looks like: __"_"_"_"" |
| 22:04.54 | hno | right.. I really should write that GPIO probing tool outputting the GPIO pin number on each pin.. |
| 22:05.47 | specing_ | Well... I don't know how that would help me... |
| 22:06.43 | hno | specing_, from the GPIO pin number you can immediately tell which functions it supports. |
| 22:07.21 | specing_ | Its easier to just set all uarts on fire |
| 22:08.48 | hno | specing_, result is the same, but the GPIO method works for all pins, not just UART. |
| 22:08.53 | specing_ | Unless there is way to have console=/dev/gpio21452blabla |
| 22:09.10 | hno | and have you prepared a system.bin connecting the UARTs somewhere? |
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| 22:09.26 | specing_ | you mean script.bin? |
| 22:09.30 | hno | yes |
| 22:09.31 | specing_ | yes I have |
| 22:09.52 | specing_ | Im testing all possible configurations for the top of the board now |
| 22:10.12 | specing_ | once I exhaust that, I'll dismantle the tablet completely |
| 22:13.22 | hno | You can't use the SD slot0 UART? |
| 22:13.31 | specing_ | That will be the last resort |
| 22:14.43 | specing_ | namely because I do not have any of those adapters and it would require getting to the other side of the board |
| 22:15.11 | specing_ | I already have a micro soldering iron ready |
| 22:19.27 | hno | specing_, what does /proc/iomem say? |
| 22:25.40 | hno | many registrations have too large .end for me, but not the uarts |
| 22:27.52 | hno | wemac, nand, sun4i-codec |
| 22:28.20 | hno | but nothing that should collide with random uarts |
| 22:31.48 | mnemoc | unless they are reserving beyond .end |
| 22:37.59 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: ukasz master * r260dc1a367d9 /allwinner_a10/orders/.mdwn: |
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| 23:00.37 | lundman | ok |
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| 23:11.20 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Pial master * ra663fe06a8d2 /allwinner_a10/orders/pial.mdwn: |
| 23:12.55 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Pial master * r0a03e304a39d /allwinner_a10/orders/pial.mdwn: |
| 23:14.04 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Pial master * rc7fbf5e99dff /allwinner_a10/orders/pial.mdwn: |
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| 23:56.25 | lundman | anything for me to do today? |
