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| 08:50.24 | naobsd | hmm. ainol released v1.4 test rom based on 4.0.4... |
| 08:55.30 | lundman | so i can not make mele play videos ( >2 ch) with sound |
| 08:55.36 | lundman | this is most disappointing |
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| 09:00.45 | zenitraM | lundman: they removed DTS support on one of the latest firmwares due to "license issues" |
| 09:03.32 | lundman | yeah nothing gives sound, even though not dts. normal stereo sometimes play.. lemme reboot it, just in case |
| 09:04.25 | lundman | bah cant reboot from remote |
| 09:05.10 | hno | lundman, you can reboot from settings menu. |
| 09:05.25 | lundman | trying CODEC setting first (out of HDMI and SPDIF) |
| 09:05.29 | lundman | hno: ah |
| 09:05.58 | lundman | there is sound IN android, just not when I play something.. |
| 09:07.38 | lundman | hell it even beeps as you change volume while playing, just not the video |
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| 09:09.49 | lundman | codec is silent, hdmi gives beep |
| 09:10.01 | lundman | oohh colber x264 plays sound, stuttering |
| 09:15.45 | zenitraM | try MXplayer from the market |
| 09:15.53 | zenitraM | it can use hw decoding for video and sw for audio |
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| 09:17.55 | lundman | i have 8 players install, all do the same, as they use system |
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| 09:18.16 | lundman | in fact, i think the stuttering changes if I change between 1080p60 and 180p24 |
| 09:18.18 | lundman | not sure |
| 09:20.24 | lundman | ok MXplayer, sw for audio, stutters like crazy |
| 09:53.54 | mnemoc | I'm upgrading 3.0-v2 to 3.0.36. if anyone needs to remain in 3.0.31 (or in the case of troubles) there is a `sunxi-v3.0.31-1` tag |
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| 10:15.12 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Mikael master * r14253fd0b0fc /allwinner_a10/orders/mikael.mdwn: |
| 10:30.19 | zenitraM | mnemoc: my ooferton sdcards were sent, or so says an email |
| 10:30.41 | mnemoc | zenitraM: i was notified too :) |
| 10:31.55 | zenitraM | i doubt that correos will send any sms but oh well |
| 10:32.15 | mnemoc | as long as they don't get lost... |
| 10:32.57 | mnemoc | do you know anyone using 3.0-v2 with a "nano" wifi driver? |
| 10:33.04 | mnemoc | s/driver/device/ |
| 10:36.01 | zenitraM | mnemoc: my ainol has that one |
| 10:37.02 | mnemoc | zenitraM: great. if I push a kernel tag, can you try to test it on your tablet? |
| 10:37.49 | mnemoc | branch actually |
| 10:38.48 | zenitraM | sure, but no guarantees on when will i be able to do that |
| 10:38.51 | zenitraM | (damn exams) |
| 10:39.03 | mnemoc | :( |
| 10:39.37 | mnemoc | in that case I suppose I'll just update allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 |
| 10:40.14 | mnemoc | thanks anyway. good luck with your exams |
| 10:40.34 | zenitraM | ok, i'll test it as soon as i finish |
| 10:40.49 | zenitraM | (this weekend) |
| 10:40.59 | zenitraM | s/this/next/ |
| 10:41.08 | mnemoc | thanks |
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| 13:34.25 | penguin42 | http://intellinuxgraphics.org/documentation.html is very very cool - they've released the ivy bridge graphics core docs under creative commons licenses |
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| 13:34.59 | Turl | https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=_36yNWw_07g :P |
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| 14:08.30 | Turl | anyone getting ultmately spammed with sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled / sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Asking for cache data failed / sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through |
| 14:08.39 | Turl | on their desktops/notebooks since some time ago? |
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| 14:18.03 | Turl | mnemoc: I'm building the updated 3.0.x branch |
| 14:21.01 | mnemoc | Turl: my only fear is that I had to revert a hack in the mmc irq driver which was added for something in that nano driver |
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| 14:21.23 | Turl | I use 8192cu over usb |
| 14:21.31 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:21.47 | Turl | (which is fail btw :P) |
| 14:21.56 | mnemoc | eh? |
| 14:22.01 | Turl | device gets stuck randomly D: |
| 14:22.21 | mnemoc | now or always? |
| 14:22.27 | Turl | aways |
| 14:22.30 | Turl | always* |
| 14:23.04 | Turl | it's like, it's operating ok, then driver does something like enabling whatever, which usually works, then all you see is usb timeouts |
| 14:23.21 | Turl | and removing the module takes a crapton of ages because the unloading routines do to |
| 14:23.22 | Turl | o |
| 14:23.44 | mnemoc | :< |
| 14:23.46 | Turl | until it decides to just take the chip's power supply offline |
| 14:24.01 | Turl | then you enable it and it works fine again :< |
| 14:24.12 | mnemoc | and the rtlwifi driver is not better? |
| 14:24.33 | Turl | I haven't tested it for such a long period |
| 14:24.40 | Turl | it usually happens after some hours |
| 14:25.10 | Turl | but the mainline driver halts the chip on suspend, so it's not good for some hours :x |
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| 14:47.28 | rm | hm, I now wish I got another Mele |
| 14:47.31 | rm | instead of another MK802 |
| 14:47.42 | mnemoc | I told you (tm) |
| 14:47.46 | RaYmAn | :/ |
| 14:47.50 | RaYmAn | rm: why though? |
| 14:47.58 | RaYmAn | just curious |
| 14:48.15 | rm | I didn't know A10 can't do that weird resolution over HDMI :) |
| 14:48.32 | rm | that a bit wrecks my plans for these devices |
| 14:48.36 | RaYmAn | ah. |
| 14:48.49 | rm | Mele at least can do it over VGA |
| 14:49.01 | rm | (quality of which remains to be seen) |
| 14:49.04 | rzk | why dont you hack around hdmi driver for that? |
| 14:49.14 | rm | rzk, you think it's possible? |
| 14:49.27 | rzk | everything's possible :3 |
| 14:49.36 | rm | I see a fixed set of contants which go down a very low level in the video output part of the chip |
| 14:49.40 | rm | (most likely) |
| 14:50.25 | mnemoc | so the native resolution of your hdmi-capable display isn't one of the normal hdmi modes? |
| 14:50.40 | rm | it's not HDMI capable |
| 14:50.48 | rm | a 1680x1050 DVI monitor |
| 14:51.02 | mnemoc | I rememeber that mode in the documented .fex |
| 14:51.12 | rm | it's for VGA only from what I see |
| 14:51.28 | rm | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:51.59 | rm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:52.27 | rm | and there's no 1050 mode, only 1080P/I, 720P/I, 576, etc |
| 14:52.37 | mnemoc | right |
| 14:52.45 | mnemoc | 4:3 is not very hdmi-ish |
| 14:52.56 | rm | it's 16:10 |
| 14:53.21 | mnemoc | try to create a mode... |
| 14:53.46 | rm | http://dpaste.com/762935/ this is what I see in the driver |
| 14:54.10 | rm | there seems to be a hole between 0xa and 0x17, though |
| 14:54.15 | rm | should I try all the unused values :) |
| 14:54.22 | rm | and a hole further down too |
| 14:54.45 | mnemoc | DISP_TV_MOD_ODD = 0x16, |
| 14:54.56 | rm | hm no, they |
| 14:55.05 | rm | 're just ordered weird |
| 14:55.15 | rm | 0xb/c/d exist |
| 14:55.34 | rm | ah, 0xd doesn't! :D |
| 14:59.05 | Turl | mnemoc: new branch looks ok |
| 14:59.18 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 14:59.19 | Turl | had to rehexedit the touch driver to accomodate the new modversion :P |
| 15:13.52 | mnemoc | btw, is mali working on both worlds currently? |
| 15:13.58 | mnemoc | or not yet? |
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| 15:43.19 | Turl | mnemoc: works on my android world |
| 15:43.48 | Turl | mnemoc: btw, I suggested filetea.me to a couple of friends, but they dropped it because it was slow |
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| 15:52.23 | zenitraM | probably they had slow upload speeds |
| 15:52.28 | zenitraM | it doesn't seem to be doing actual p2p |
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| 15:52.48 | zenitraM | as that can't be done without using flash+udp, java or any other kind of dark hackery |
| 15:53.49 | Turl | zenitraM: the dude uploading had 35Mbit up, the downloading one 30Mbit down |
| 15:53.58 | Turl | and yeah, it's probably not p2p |
| 15:54.06 | zenitraM | then the server had to be the bottleneck :P |
| 15:54.12 | Turl | they barely got 100kbit :/ |
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| 16:20.36 | specing | How many UARTs does the A10 have? |
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| 16:38.35 | specing | I only see ttyS0 on android |
| 16:38.57 | specing | /dev/ttyDCC0 /dev/ttyS0 |
| 16:39.06 | specing | dunno what the first one is |
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| 17:11.18 | specing | Im about to start probing around with a scope |
| 17:20.20 | specing | D: Im not sure how to interpret this... |
| 17:23.47 | specing | gets a sheet of paper |
| 17:24.06 | specing | wiki' serial |
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| 17:32.09 | specing | I just tested with a pl2303 converter |
| 17:32.51 | specing | byte 170 at 1 start 1 stop no parity comes out like __"_"_"_"" |
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| 17:41.55 | penguin42 | the right speed? |
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| 17:46.48 | specing | Well I've set the scope for 9600 |
| 17:49.47 | specing | https://ajdef.dynsite.net/A10-MID/hacking/ |
| 17:51.02 | specing | ^ program to spam the specified serial port with the specified byte |
| 17:53.40 | Turl | specing: I think default was like 11900 or something like that |
| 17:53.53 | specing | My program sets it to 9600 |
| 17:54.01 | RaYmAn | Turl: usually 115k |
| 17:54.56 | specing | Ok, so nothing happens on URDL and HOME pads |
| 17:55.44 | specing | How many UARTs does the A10 have? |
| 17:55.53 | specing | And if >1, how do I get to the others? |
| 17:56.06 | specing | I'd like to spam them all with 170 |
| 17:56.37 | Turl | specing: I think by default, it has 1 |
| 17:56.43 | Turl | it's defined on the script.bin |
| 17:59.00 | specing | Well the kernel only exports one |
| 17:59.12 | specing | I have found a very interesting 6-pin header over here |
| 17:59.16 | specing | very close to the A10 |
| 17:59.32 | specing | three of the lines seem to be 3.3 and the other three 0 |
| 18:00.03 | specing | 4*3.3 2*0 |
| 18:04.02 | specing | I see you are excited as well :P |
| 18:06.56 | Turl | haha |
| 18:16.51 | specing | Anyway |
| 18:16.59 | specing | Is there a way to enable all the UARTS? |
| 18:22.08 | specing | And have them show up under /dev/ttyS? |
| 18:22.15 | specing | Prefferably on android? |
| 18:25.16 | specing | I just went through all the pads on the top of the PCB and the scope didn't show anything |
| 18:25.19 | specing | :( |
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| 18:27.33 | specing | steev: Did you manage to get Gentoo running on your ly-fy? |
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| 18:49.12 | rm | I have a weird problem with Xorg |
| 18:49.36 | rm | switched mode to 1680x1050 using /dev/disp ioctls; switched fb mode using fbset |
| 18:49.43 | rm | in Xorg.0.log I have: |
| 18:49.53 | rm | [ 97408.327] (--) FBDEV(0): Virtual size is 1680x1050 (pitch 1680) |
| 18:49.59 | rm | [ 97408.327] (II) FBDEV(0): Modeline "current"x0.0 74.25 1680 1790 1830 2050 1050 1055 1060 1080 -hsyn |
| 18:49.59 | rm | c -vsync -csync (36.2 kHz b) |
| 18:50.20 | rm | but while the image is at correct resolution, the desktop still takes only a rectangle area to the top-right |
| 18:50.28 | rm | likely 1280x720 |
| 18:50.37 | Turl | rm: virtual size vs real size? |
| 18:50.42 | rm | desktop/panels/wallpaper etc, mouse can't leave that area |
| 18:51.29 | Turl | rm: if your monitor has one of those info buttons hit it |
| 18:51.35 | Turl | maybe you're not outputting that res? |
| 18:52.58 | rm | right, and the monitor says the res is correct |
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| 19:10.06 | rm | soooo |
| 19:10.13 | rm | any extra steps that need to be done? |
| 19:11.19 | rm | anyone uses the Mele in a non-default resolution? |
| 19:12.00 | xenoxaos | i'm looking forward to getting mine |
| 19:24.15 | libv | did anyone buy a mele off of ebay from global8810? |
| 19:25.07 | libv | and did you then also get spam from uSelliSell? |
| 19:28.23 | mnemoc | libv: you should have bought it from Tom ;-) |
| 19:28.54 | Mazon | oval: "No Shipping options are available until your total reaches $300.00USD. Please contact us for assistance!" - bah |
| 19:28.58 | mnemoc | rm: tried restarting X? |
| 19:29.05 | libv | no, i wanted an a1000 because i want to hack a serial plug in its case :) |
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| 19:36.17 | Mazon | hipboi: http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/511685/0-583304547/Smallart-Uhost-Allwinner-A10-hackable-device.html <-- same as oval elephants? |
| 19:36.40 | Turl | libv: I once bought a battery on dinodirect, a chinese site |
| 19:36.57 | Turl | I got mailed (read: physical real-world mail) spam from them |
| 19:37.10 | Turl | twice |
| 19:37.20 | Turl | ~20 page booklets with products and offers lol |
| 19:40.07 | mnemoc | dinodirect is *big* |
| 19:41.01 | Turl | mnemoc: smaller than dealextreme right? |
| 19:41.29 | mnemoc | DX is big in small <2kg stuff |
| 19:41.47 | mnemoc | dino is focused on larger stuff |
| 19:41.50 | Turl | dinodirect sells a lot of clothing stuff judging by their ads |
| 19:42.27 | rm | mnemoc, like a thousand of times |
| 19:42.31 | rm | and rebooting the device too |
| 19:42.40 | mnemoc | electronics, tents, ... |
| 19:43.18 | mnemoc | rm: odd, the small working area problem seems very Xorg.conf-ish |
| 19:43.44 | rm | I managed to get something different |
| 19:43.51 | libv | rm: what does xrandr -q tell you? |
| 19:44.13 | zenitraM | that happens because the fb size is set in a different way than the display size |
| 19:44.21 | rm | by using fbset -xres 1280 -yres -720 while in X, I got X use the whole screen, but now it was clipped by that visible area |
| 19:44.34 | zenitraM | while trying that old ICS beta, i had to use the ioctl stuff to change the output in android |
| 19:44.38 | rm | unike before, where it seems to have been shrunk down to it |
| 19:44.42 | rm | and |
| 19:44.48 | zenitraM | and it set it to the res i set.. but didn't change the android one |
| 19:44.50 | rm | the VGA output on the mele is totally awesome |
| 19:45.04 | rm | 1680x1050, absolutely 100% crisp text |
| 19:46.07 | Turl | rm: I do 1080p over VGA from my intel card |
| 19:46.09 | Turl | it's good too |
| 19:46.15 | Turl | rm: the only issue is refresh rate |
| 19:46.17 | rm | Screen 0: minimum 1680 x 1050, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1050 |
| 19:46.18 | rm | default connected 1680x1050+0+0 0mm x 0mm |
| 19:46.18 | rm | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.21 | rm | libv, ^ |
| 19:46.22 | Turl | no idea if VGA is to blame tho |
| 19:46.43 | mnemoc | 30? |
| 19:46.51 | rm | looks like the monitor runs at this resolution, but the working area is 1280x720 in the top left |
| 19:47.00 | Turl | hipboi: did you get the A100s? |
| 19:47.08 | rm | and Xorg believes it uses 1680x1050, but in reality it is scaled down to 1280x720 |
| 19:48.04 | rm | I think a better way would be to change the bin file |
| 19:48.14 | rm | so that it boots at the needed resolution from the start |
| 19:49.58 | rm | evb.bin, mele.bin, mele_stock.bin, sys_config1.mele_mod.bin - which of them is actually used? |
| 19:50.13 | mnemoc | depends on your uboot setup |
| 19:51.58 | Turl | mnemoc: my wifi just failed http://pastebin.com/ipRAHf7i |
| 19:58.59 | mnemoc | :( |
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| 20:04.51 | hno | Turl, smells borked firmware version. |
| 20:05.06 | Turl | hno: the firmware is built in on the kernel module |
| 20:05.45 | rm | what is screen1? |
| 20:06.04 | hno | Turl, how nice of them.. what license do the kernel module have? |
| 20:06.19 | mnemoc | :p |
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| 20:06.35 | mnemoc | can a blob be GPLed? |
| 20:06.40 | Turl | root@laptop:~/zatab/linux-allwinner/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8192cu# grep GPL * -r |
| 20:06.40 | Turl | os_dep/linux/os_intfs.c:MODULE_LICENSE("GPL"); |
| 20:06.41 | Turl | GPL? |
| 20:07.26 | mnemoc | it's very possible allwinner inlined the blob, not realtek |
| 20:07.37 | Turl | mnemoc: I DLed the realtek release |
| 20:07.45 | Turl | it's the same |
| 20:07.50 | mnemoc | :o |
| 20:07.55 | Turl | except allwinner added the 'turn on the usb chip' magic |
| 20:08.02 | Turl | like a 2 line diff or so :P |
| 20:13.12 | hno | Oh' it's a GPL licensed binary blob. hal/rtl8192d/usb/Hal8192DUHWImg.c |
| 20:13.40 | Turl | this is a 8192*c*(u) |
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| 20:15.11 | hno | hal/rtl8192c/usb/Hal8192CUHWImg.c then.. |
| 20:15.36 | hno | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.36 | hno | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.36 | hno | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.36 | hno | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.36 | hno | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.12 | hno | 0xc1,0x88,0x02,0x00,0x4f,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x0a,0x06,0x18,0x02,0x58,0x3f,0x00,0x00, |
| 20:18.12 | hno | 0x61,0x80,0x01,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00, |
| 20:18.12 | hno | 0x02,0x43,0xba,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00, |
| 20:18.12 | hno | 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x02,0x5a,0x45,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00, |
| 20:18.12 | hno | 0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00,0x00, |
| 20:18.39 | specing | ? |
| 20:18.57 | hno | somehow i have a hard time seeing this as the "preferred form of the work for making modifications to it." |
| 20:19.02 | Turl | hno: they wrote it on machine code directly ;) |
| 20:19.41 | rm | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS IT WORKS |
| 20:19.57 | rm | mele_stock.bin -----> <rm> evb.bin, mele.bin, mele_stock.bin, sys_config1.mele_mod.bin - which of them is actually used? |
| 20:20.20 | hno | This driver absolutely do not belong in the kernel tree. modules/ is a better place. |
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| 20:20.53 | Turl | hno: it builds inline with the kernel perfectly though |
| 20:21.25 | hno | Turl, pretty much anything can be made to build inline with the kernel build. |
| 20:21.57 | hno | doesn't mean it should. |
| 20:22.51 | hno | But that's another days headache, the day when trying to make a clean A10 kernel. |
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| 20:39.26 | Turl | hno: http://paste.debian.net/176128/ |
| 20:41.32 | mnemoc | look at me, I'm realtek's driver and the chip failed lulz.... |
| 20:42.25 | Turl | mnemoc: :) |
| 20:43.36 | Turl | found this log on gist for raspbian https://gist.github.com/2918674 |
| 20:43.41 | Turl | seems to be a realtek driver too |
| 20:43.46 | Turl | and fails similarly |
| 20:52.30 | rm | what I don't get is why this one http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/511685/0-583304547/Smallart-Uhost-Allwinner-A10-hackable-device.html |
| 20:52.33 | rm | so expensive |
| 20:53.12 | steev | specing: i haven't had time |
| 20:53.35 | Turl | rm: it has a remote? |
| 20:53.57 | Turl | and 1G memory |
| 20:54.31 | rm | it says it has an "air mouse" |
| 20:55.05 | rm | if it's a real air mouse, i.e. where you control the cursor by flinging it in the air |
| 20:55.12 | rm | then that would explain it |
| 20:55.25 | rm | but a simple remote, nope, not worth +$30 |
| 20:55.37 | rm | mk802 with 1G is $66 |
| 20:56.01 | Turl | rm: mk802 has no HDMI protections |
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| 20:56.13 | Turl | this one looks like the elephant one |
| 20:56.19 | rm | yes it does |
| 20:56.56 | Turl | rm: besides it acts as a pendrive according to the description |
| 20:57.08 | Turl | that might justify the extra cost |
| 20:59.20 | Turl | 70$ (mk802) + 10$ remote + 10$ pendrive + 10$ ?? = 100$ |
| 21:00.55 | Turl | rm: http://www.aliexpress.com/fm-store/511685/0-549872597/Mele-F10-Seneor-Remote-working-with-Mele-A1000-and-A2000.html |
| 21:01.40 | rm | this one is an order of magnitude more featureful than what seems to be included with that Uhost |
| 21:02.10 | Turl | probably they're both true 'air mice' |
| 21:02.42 | zenitraM | acting as a pendrive isn't something really difficult... |
| 21:03.01 | zenitraM | in fact probably the mk802 can too with the correct settings |
| 21:03.19 | Turl | zenitraM: yeah |
| 21:03.30 | zenitraM | or.. well, not, is it powered by a female usb? |
| 21:03.32 | zenitraM | or something else? |
| 21:03.33 | Turl | zenitraM: but it made it sound like you could do it with the device off |
| 21:03.52 | zenitraM | mmm now that's unlikely |
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| 21:04.04 | zenitraM | unless it has some sort of dedicated nand chip or sdcard built-in |
| 21:04.17 | Turl | yeah that was my thought |
| 21:04.21 | zenitraM | i doubt a standalone usb-to-nand would be able to handle a10 nand partition hackery |
| 21:04.43 | Turl | now if it's normal android UMS, it'll be weird to use :P |
| 21:04.44 | rm | maybe it has a built-in SD instead of nand? :) |
| 21:05.14 | zenitraM | not likely, as it has 4gb storage |
| 21:05.44 | zenitraM | unless it has 2gb nand for everything on /data + 2gb sd for /sdcard |
| 21:08.20 | zenitraM | it probably just means that usb gadget mode works |
| 21:08.20 | zenitraM | which is useful for one thing: FEL |
| 21:12.41 | hno | The A10 can boot into device storage mode in ca 3 seconds. Standard feature of the Allwinner bootloader. |
| 21:14.02 | hno | aka boot1 |
| 21:15.03 | Turl | hno: what does it expose over USB? nandi? |
| 21:15.11 | hno | Configuratble. |
| 21:15.32 | hno | the mele exposes nanda and the Android OS partition I think. |
| 21:15.52 | hno | boot1 do not care what the partitions are used for. |
| 21:15.58 | Turl | hno: is boot1 on nand? |
| 21:16.11 | hno | yes, but outside partitions. |
| 21:16.32 | Turl | hno: you could expose the full nand then and 'debrick' devices then? |
| 21:16.53 | Turl | s/then?/?/ |
| 21:17.22 | hno | FEL can alwaus debrick devices and do not rely on anything other than the CPU. |
| 21:18.02 | Turl | hno: yeah, but if this works then you can dd a system image and don't need any extra software |
| 21:18.04 | hno | using the boot1 device storage mode for debricking is hard as it relies on configuration already being in place and working. |
| 21:18.28 | hno | plus means for activating it. |
| 21:18.53 | hno | which is either key or serial console. |
| 21:20.09 | Turl | completely offtopic, but I noticed there's fastboot on what I'm guessing is allwinner's uboot |
| 21:20.17 | hno | yes. |
| 21:20.18 | Turl | looks rather limited and buggy though |
| 21:20.29 | hno | and completely unmaintainable. |
| 21:21.00 | Turl | I did fastboot reboot and the device crashed or something, had to power cycle it |
| 21:21.47 | hno | uboot quite often have problems rebooting. Don't think that's fastboots fault. |
| 21:22.56 | hno | and regarding ESD protection, the MK802 is designed for having ESD protection but not mounted in the pictures we have seen. Same for the other stick. Designed but not mounted.. |
| 21:23.49 | hno | so don't count on an aliexpress device to have ESD protection mounted unless carefully verified. |
| 21:24.25 | hno | it's very easy to skip those components in manufacturing and no one will notice unless looking at the board. |
| 21:25.58 | hno | zenitraM, full FEL support requires the "usbboot" key/pinhole and the USB OTG port. Some DRAM is also nice but not strictly required.. |
| 21:28.06 | hno | Right, come to think about it should be possible to make an FEL SD.-card as well. Lets try. |
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| 21:44.22 | hno | worked |
| 21:46.26 | hno | which means that now every A10 device have an easy FEL mode not relying on internal NAND even if button is missing. |
| 21:50.45 | mnemoc | :o |
| 21:52.05 | Turl | cool |
| 21:54.00 | hno | hno.se/code/A10/ |
| 21:54.57 | hno | mnemoc, do that fit in sunxi-tools you think? |
| 21:55.36 | mnemoc | sure, why not? |
| 21:55.43 | hno | it's different in that this is native, running on the A10. |
| 21:55.57 | hno | and also need mksunxiboot. |
| 21:59.45 | hno | mnemoc, pushed the source there, but not integrated in Makefile yet. |
| 22:03.24 | mnemoc | maybe a subdir with it's own Makefile? |
| 22:04.38 | mnemoc | and moving the other stuff into a subdir too |
| 22:05.52 | hno | It's too late in the evening to think on important structural matters ;) |
| 22:06.11 | hno | goes to edit the wiki a bit.. |
| 22:10.20 | mnemoc | :) |
| 22:11.05 | mnemoc | does this mean u-boot could jump to fel too? |
| 22:14.42 | hno | If it can be figured out how to reset hardware sufficiently yes.. |
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| 22:21.55 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hno master * r435faa1121c4 /allwinner_a10/a10_boot_process.mdwn: |
| 22:28.07 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hno master * r96d99f9cee84 /allwinner_a10/a10_boot_process.mdwn: |
| 22:31.01 | hno | is done editing wiki for now.. |
| 22:31.08 | mnemoc | :) |
| 22:37.37 | Turl | the sun4i arch reset is cryptic |
| 22:37.53 | hno | Turl, not really. |
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| 22:38.22 | hno | just uses the watchdog to reset the board. |
| 22:39.40 | Turl | hno: yeah, but the addresses and meaning of the register and value are too magical |
| 22:44.15 | hno | Turl, it's clearer if you look in kernel arch/arm/mach-sun4i/pm/ |
| 22:45.16 | Turl | hno: besides I still don't get why the watchdog is off during normal system operation :/ |
| 22:45.40 | hno | Turl, because no one have bothered writing a sunxi watchdog driver? |
| 22:46.06 | hno | and because suspend/resume messes with it? |
| 22:47.16 | Turl | hno: but if they're selling tablets with it, it should have one |
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| 22:47.43 | hno | Why? Android never crashes... |
| 22:48.04 | hno | and there is usually a power button to reboot. |
| 22:48.38 | Turl | hno: a power button you need to hold for over 10s |
| 22:48.57 | hno | I know. |
| 22:49.02 | Turl | and it's not an obvious action either for joe foo |
| 22:49.12 | Turl | (and you can't pull the battery on a tablet) |
| 22:50.43 | hno | Just noticed the kernel only have TIMER0 defined. No mentioning of the other timers or the watchdog in kernel headers. |
| 22:51.24 | hno | Oh, it does. Just not where expected. |
| 22:53.18 | hno | No it doesn't. |
| 22:54.20 | hno | Speaking of magic registers... volatile u32 val = readl(SW_VA_TIMERC_IO_BASE + 0x13c); |
| 23:15.24 | Turl | hno: I'm probably doing it wrong (tm) but poking 0xF1C20C94 with busybox devmem doesn't seem to turn the watchdog on |
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| 23:31.02 | Turl | aaaand ramconsole works! \o/ |
| 23:31.16 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hno master * rf8603ea6bc9c /allwinner_a10/A10_register_guide/A10_TIMER.mdwn: |
| 23:32.11 | hno | Turl, Hm.. what did you set it to? |
| 23:33.58 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: hno master * rdcaec2f3eca9 /allwinner_a10/A10_register_guide/A10_TIMER.mdwn: speling |
| 23:34.13 | hno | Turl: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/A10_register_guide/A10_TIMER/#index25h2 |
| 23:34.34 | hno | ramconsole? |
| 23:35.07 | Turl | hno: set to 3 and 0 on all the widths offered by devmem |
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| 23:35.22 | Turl | hno: ramconsole is like a console but to a ram area |
| 23:35.34 | Turl | after a reboot ram holds the data and you can read it :) |
| 23:35.36 | hno | just found it. |
| 23:35.54 | Turl | if you have uart it might not be that interesting |
| 23:36.33 | hno | I have uart. but there is lots of value in that for catching panics and the like. |
| 23:37.41 | Turl | yeah, that's the main use case |
| 23:37.55 | Turl | if we had a working watchdog, even better :) |
| 23:38.16 | hno | to bad there is no reset button on the mele. The AXP "reset" button we have found disturbs memory content. |
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| 23:40.34 | Turl | hno: https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/771f4a7ea01c9fed2a0198310aa17a9d7c65200b |
| 23:42.32 | Turl | hno: the 10s power button "works" too |
| 23:42.40 | Turl | hno: the data gets corrupted a bit |
| 23:42.43 | Turl | but it's usable |
| 23:43.31 | Turl | hno: ramconsole has error correction built in |
| 23:43.39 | Turl | maybe you can enable it and be done |
| 23:44.23 | Turl | mine is off, let me try turning it on |
| 23:56.16 | lundman | I wonder if my audio problems is because I am running my kernel |
| 23:56.58 | Turl | audio problems? |