| 00:19.39 | hno | U-Boot SPL 2011.09-00002-g8d13bc8-dirty (Jun 14 2012 - 00:42:41) |
| 00:20.00 | hno | first sign of life from SPL loaded via USB FEL |
| 00:21.08 | libv | \o/ |
| 00:23.47 | lundman | o/ |
| 00:24.11 | hno | But need to write something else than U-Boot SPL for this.. U-Boot SPL does a bit too much and little.. |
| 00:26.53 | hno | only need to initialize DRAM so u-boot can be loaded. |
| 00:32.21 | hno | U-Boot SPL with all needed features to load U-Boot using the SPL is too big, and it takes over the machine so FEL can't continue once SPL starts. |
| 00:33.33 | hno | well, should be possible to load via zmodem for now. |
| 00:34.38 | hno | but the intention is to load it all over USB. |
| 00:34.42 | leojrfs | ZaEarl: isnt there a opensource driver project for a10? |
| 00:34.46 | leojrfs | lima i think |
| 00:34.47 | leojrfs | ? |
| 00:35.27 | hp_ | http://rascalmicro.com/blog/ <<-- small little board :) |
| 00:35.55 | ZaEarl | leojrfs, yes, libv is doing that driver |
| 00:36.09 | hno | leojrfs, lima is the open source driver effort for the ARM MALI GPU. It's not doing any video, only 3D. |
| 00:37.03 | leojrfs | hno, i see. So then, there's no chances to get HD video on X11? |
| 00:37.09 | libv | video is an achievable goal for anyone with the inclination and the stamina |
| 00:38.29 | hno | leojrfs, there is a video processing unit in the A10, with proprietary libraries available. But apparently not entirely trivial to use. |
| 00:38.35 | leojrfs | i dont see the point having 3D without getting rid of the limited framebuffer support that X11 have |
| 00:38.48 | leojrfs | i see |
| 00:39.42 | hno | there is also a 2D accelerator with fully open source driver, but no X11 driver for it. |
| 00:40.40 | libv | tons of interesting 'jobs' to do :) |
| 00:40.50 | hno | as always |
| 00:40.57 | leojrfs | :/ so no change to use a mele a1000 as i want :/ |
| 00:41.22 | libv | ... i saw her today at the reception ... |
| 00:41.36 | leojrfs | sadly i will got to use raspbpi |
| 00:41.45 | libv | leojrfs: oh yeah, sure |
| 00:41.53 | libv | leojrfs: videocore is all about freedom!!!!! |
| 00:42.25 | hno | Yes, all about the freedom for broadcom to keep shut. |
| 00:42.30 | leojrfs | libv, its not about freedom, but about having hdmi+composite+vga+wifi onboard |
| 00:42.58 | leojrfs | i just take what it works best for my case |
| 00:43.06 | libv | ... |
| 00:43.19 | leojrfs | and the price |
| 00:43.20 | libv | and the A10 doesn't have this then? |
| 00:43.21 | leojrfs | of course |
| 00:43.52 | leojrfs | libv: it has, but i cannot use to play video with an embedded debian for ex |
| 00:44.05 | libv | leojrfs: not without some tinkering |
| 00:44.21 | libv | leojrfs: "embedded debian"? |
| 00:44.35 | leojrfs | i got to use a distro |
| 00:44.41 | leojrfs | i want to use multiple devices |
| 00:44.44 | leojrfs | connected to wifi |
| 00:44.55 | leojrfs | mounting a Dir |
| 00:44.59 | leojrfs | a network dir |
| 00:45.00 | libv | leojrfs: Allwinner A10 has a chance of becoming open source to a high degree |
| 00:45.07 | leojrfs | and playing video on that dir |
| 00:45.11 | libv | raspberry pi has no such chance |
| 00:45.16 | libv | urgh. |
| 00:45.27 | leojrfs | libv, raspi can do that just now |
| 00:45.40 | libv | leojrfs: yes, fine |
| 00:45.42 | libv | leojrfs: go then |
| 00:45.43 | leojrfs | but it doesnt have vga, neither wifi |
| 00:46.17 | leojrfs | no offense, but idc if is the drivers are open or not |
| 00:46.18 | lundman | neither is useable as media player today :) |
| 00:46.19 | libv | go to your raspberry pi and don't turn back, and change to the next device when you find an issue which you cannot overcome by whining |
| 00:47.04 | leojrfs | libv: i got this working on a raspberry pi |
| 00:47.25 | leojrfs | but as i have an mele a1000 |
| 00:47.26 | libv | leojrfs: then it seems that you should be fully satisfied |
| 00:47.29 | leojrfs | that i bought to test |
| 00:47.38 | libv | ebay it |
| 00:48.07 | leojrfs | libv, raspberrypi doesnt have vga, neither wifi (etc) |
| 00:48.13 | leojrfs | thats the sad part |
| 00:48.41 | libv | ... a glass of wine in her hand ... |
| 00:48.57 | leojrfs | i can use mele a1000 for audio streaming only |
| 00:49.01 | tastypotato | So - I just threw the pre-SD card ready ubuntu onto an SD card and popped it into my A2000 and hooked it up to my TV via the HDMI, and the TV (Samsung) said that the resolution was not supported, then after rebooting the device it keeps booting back into Android. Any tips? |
| 00:49.04 | leojrfs | thats half of the purpose |
| 00:49.24 | leojrfs | im not blaming libv, maybe you are getting me wrong |
| 00:49.37 | leojrfs | i was just asking the state on video in a10 |
| 00:49.49 | leojrfs | if video its not ok, ill got to go with alternatives |
| 00:49.52 | lundman | sometimes it skips the sd boot, just pull power and it'll go back to sd |
| 00:50.08 | leojrfs | im fully aware that a10 is far more complete & powerfull |
| 00:50.24 | hno | lundman, has never happened to me. |
| 00:50.31 | tastypotato | Hm, alright. Is there some way I can change what resolution it's going to run in before putting it on the SD card? I'm a total newbie to this though and on Windows. |
| 00:50.50 | tastypotato | because I don't think my TV likes the 1280x1024 or whatever it's trying to run. |
| 00:52.00 | hno | tastypotato, there is a C program somewhere which needs to be added setting the resolution and/or output. |
| 00:52.53 | lundman | uboot bootargs can take resolution |
| 00:53.03 | lundman | but i dont know if mele uses it |
| 00:53.12 | tastypotato | Is there any way I can fiddle with the .img file I have? |
| 00:53.43 | tastypotato | Or suck it up and start reading on how to compile stuff? :P |
| 00:54.01 | lundman | hno: happened a number of times. appears to be too fast for the sd card to be ready, and simply defaults to nvram |
| 00:57.44 | hno | so maybe my old scrapped very slow SD-card I use is faster at startup. |
| 00:58.02 | tastypotato | The one I'm using is a 8GB Class 10. :/ |
| 00:59.40 | Turl | hno: t0dbld told me he needs to boot once, android, then shut down for it to pick the sdcard, maybe it's related? |
| 00:59.42 | hno | tastypotato, there is two options. a) Get yourself serial console access to the Mele. b) Boot a Linux on your PC (or in a VM) and work with things from there. |
| 01:00.11 | tastypotato | I can do a VM. What would you suggest? |
| 01:00.35 | hno | Turl, yes, that would match well with the sdcard being slow to start as lundman mentioned above. |
| 01:01.23 | lundman | I use my own uboot, not that it should matter, the spl is identical |
| 01:01.39 | hno | tastypotato, Most uses Ubuntu I think, I don't. |
| 01:02.35 | tastypotato | Ubuntu it is. I've heard it's a lot easier, I was actually planning on learning how to use it on the Mele |
| 01:05.40 | hno | was more or less forced to boot his Windows VM a couple of days ago. Still having bad feelings from the experience. |
| 01:06.17 | Turl | hno: same |
| 01:06.18 | tastypotato | Oh it's not that terrible. :P |
| 01:06.22 | Turl | hno: I broke nanda |
| 01:07.19 | hno | broke as in beyond rescue? Or broke as in messed up the files slightly? |
| 01:07.25 | Turl | tastypotato: you say that because you don't know better |
| 01:07.42 | Turl | hno: idk, I copied the stock script.bin back, all good |
| 01:07.43 | Turl | rebooted |
| 01:07.46 | Turl | and my tablet was dead |
| 01:07.48 | Turl | :P |
| 01:07.58 | tastypotato | Turn on computer - go get cup of coffee - machine is booted when I get back! Taa Daa |
| 01:08.14 | Turl | tastypotato: plug USB peripheral - wait 10m to use it |
| 01:08.16 | Turl | tada! |
| 01:08.33 | tastypotato | That's why you get another cup of coffee. :P |
| 01:08.44 | hno | Turl, do you have console? |
| 01:09.03 | Turl | hno: nope |
| 01:09.24 | Turl | hno: hipboi_ hasn't answered yet re. his uart uSD thing |
| 01:09.32 | Turl | but you'd need nanda working for it anyway right? |
| 01:09.46 | hipboi_ | hi, Turl |
| 01:09.56 | Turl | hi hipboi_ |
| 01:09.57 | hipboi_ | sorry, i was not at the office yesterday |
| 01:10.04 | Turl | ok, no problem :) |
| 01:10.05 | hipboi_ | and the day before yesterday |
| 01:10.17 | hno | Turl, I don't. But you probably want it to use it as tablet. |
| 01:10.27 | hno | have you tried to reflash it using livesuite? |
| 01:10.29 | hipboi_ | so, you need the uSD, right? |
| 01:10.39 | Turl | hno: yeah I fixed it with livesuite |
| 01:10.50 | Turl | hno: but the script.bin was stock, not like I copied a foobared file |
| 01:10.57 | Turl | yet it broke |
| 01:11.15 | Turl | hipboi_: yeah, the uSD to UART device you were selling some time back |
| 01:11.28 | hipboi_ | yes |
| 01:11.47 | hipboi_ | it's not on store now |
| 01:12.19 | hno | hipboi_, have managed to load a stripped down SPL via FEL. |
| 01:12.30 | Turl | hipboi_: so you don't sell it anymore? |
| 01:12.34 | hipboi_ | hno: good |
| 01:12.36 | Turl | hno: nice |
| 01:13.00 | hipboi_ | Turl: i have some, i can sell to you |
| 01:13.30 | Turl | hipboi_: how much do they cost? |
| 01:13.40 | hipboi_ | hno: how big is the SPL |
| 01:13.51 | hipboi_ | Turl: i think i can send you for free |
| 01:13.58 | hipboi_ | Turl: only the shipping cost |
| 01:14.15 | Turl | hipboi_: nice, thanks :) |
| 01:14.43 | hno | hipboi_, with MMC it's a little to big to fit in any of the memory areas identified as unused, so I had to disable MMC so all it could do was to say hello.. |
| 01:15.07 | hno | without MMC is's about 6K. |
| 01:15.14 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: lead master * r107c19604b31 /users/lead.mdwn: |
| 01:16.13 | hno | will look into making a smaller thing for only initializing clocks and DRAM, and use FEL for loading u-boot into DRAM. |
| 01:16.33 | Turl | hipboi_: I have received stuff using China Post previously, so I guess that would be OK |
| 01:17.01 | hipboi_ | hno: so you have figured out how to control FEL? |
| 01:18.16 | hno | Yes, I can read/write memory and execute code. |
| 01:18.23 | hipboi_ | Turl: China post is cheap |
| 01:19.08 | hipboi_ | hno: if you execute code, the code control the system, right? |
| 01:19.15 | hno | Have not yet figured out the purpose of the predefined memory areas used by FEL. |
| 01:19.33 | hno | hipboi_, if I execute u-boot SPL then it takes over the system. |
| 01:19.34 | hipboi_ | i will reply you in the maillist |
| 01:19.49 | Turl | hipboi_: if you can take paypal, I can pay you the shipping cost now |
| 01:20.23 | hipboi_ | Turl: i have an paypal account, but i have never used it. |
| 01:20.46 | hipboi_ | Turl: it's not connected with any credit card. |
| 01:21.10 | Turl | hipboi_: mine is not connected either, but I have paypal credit on it |
| 01:21.34 | hipboi_ | hno: the 6k u-boot can ini the clock and dram, at the end of the SPL code, you can go to FEL again |
| 01:21.57 | hipboi_ | hno: then you can load bigger things into dram. |
| 01:22.16 | Turl | hipboi_: what payment method would you prefer? |
| 01:22.24 | hipboi_ | paypal is ok |
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| 01:23.42 | Turl | hipboi_: ok then, find out the shipping cost with china post to argentina and I'll send you the money :) |
| 01:24.16 | hipboi_ | Turl: ok |
| 01:25.11 | hno | hipboi_, I would think I need to cut down SPL a bit for that, making something that just initializes DRAM & clocks and which do not remap interrupt vectors or any other fancy ARM system stuff. |
| 01:26.16 | hno | but maybe it works to just restart FEL from the beginning. |
| 01:26.37 | lundman | i accept money too |
| 01:27.46 | hipboi_ | hno: just rewrite a small program do that from scratch |
| 01:28.55 | hno | yes, that's my plan. |
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| 01:44.28 | hipboi_ | hno: i just confirmed |
| 01:44.52 | hipboi_ | hno: the code of FEL is excuted only once |
| 01:45.22 | hipboi_ | hno: you don't need to go to FEL again |
| 01:45.45 | hipboi_ | hno: i think just load the whole SPL to sram is ok |
| 01:46.21 | hno | I need to return to FEL leaving the system in a shape that FEL can continue. But that's only a matter of reshuffling things into a bin that only does the needed initializations. |
| 01:47.46 | hno | easier than trying to add USB support to SPL. |
| 01:48.38 | hno | full USB driver do not fit. |
| 01:48.54 | hipboi_ | hno: ok |
| 01:55.11 | hno | livesuite is doing some strange things I don't understand. Like writing to memory range 0x23000. There is nothing there that I know of? |
| 01:57.44 | hno | seems to be doign so before writing stuff to DRAM. |
| 01:58.23 | hipboi_ | hno: i just get to know |
| 01:58.35 | hipboi_ | hno: the fel is kind of an OS |
| 01:58.48 | hipboi_ | hno: it uses the whole 32K ram |
| 01:59.08 | hipboi_ | hno: the program downloaded from pc is like an app of FEL |
| 01:59.12 | hno | Yes I noticed. |
| 02:05.48 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rb5abacbecde3 / (allwinner_a10/orders/lead.mdwn users/lead.mdwn): order processing cleanup |
| 02:08.49 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * rdea8d2ef5090 /allwinner_a10/orders/ (2 files in 2 dirs): whoops, no contact details |
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| 02:30.15 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * re63e8640b7df /allwinner_a10/orders/ (26 files in 2 dirs): big cleanup based on contact details |
| 02:39.35 | hipboi_ | just got a notebook of A10 |
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| 02:46.43 | A1Sheds | hipboi_, this one? http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/04/16/sunlike-umpc-1021-85-usd-allwinner-a10-based-10-2-android-4-0-netbook/ |
| 02:54.41 | hipboi_ | A1Sheds: yes, almost the same |
| 02:55.08 | hipboi_ | A1Sheds: it's 700 rmb |
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| 03:17.06 | Turl | why don't chinese vendors sell those netbooks with a linux system instead of android? :P I haven't seen any |
| 03:17.43 | brokencodes | because then they would have to immediately release the source |
| 03:17.54 | brokencodes | they assume they dont have to with Android |
| 03:18.34 | brokencodes | I have a chinese made board here that runs on linux, but its very closed source, hence why it never went mainstream |
| 03:19.09 | brokencodes | based on NXP PNX8495 Arm Cortex A9 dual core 720Mhz |
| 03:20.23 | brokencodes | I ported the kernel to support Debain, and they had a cow, and fired me |
| 03:21.26 | brokencodes | s/Debain/Debian/g |
| 03:21.50 | brokencodes | Ninja'd...lol |
| 03:22.58 | brokencodes | anyone got X11 Accelerated woring on AW-A10? |
| 03:23.05 | brokencodes | working even? |
| 03:23.06 | lundman | not i |
| 03:23.41 | brokencodes | anyone have a DDX hack from another Mali licensee, that can work for testing in the mean time? |
| 03:24.46 | brokencodes | OpenGLES without DRI / DDX is equating to .3FPS in 3D renders... |
| 03:25.46 | brokencodes | I watched 45 seconds of GLXGears, and I think I lowered my brain's overall performance by 55% (Its even affecting my typing) |
| 03:26.49 | brokencodes | 16 frames in 45 seconds is just annoyingly slow |
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| 04:08.58 | A1Sheds | brokencodes, whats your take on why they feel releasing Linux source is a bad move? |
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| 04:43.58 | lundman | people will see how terrible their developers are |
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| 05:36.52 | arete74 | hi, |
| 05:37.08 | arete74 | i have an problem with my mele a1000 |
| 05:37.27 | arete74 | i have connect to usb serial only pin tx,rx,gnd |
| 05:39.04 | arete74 | the serial work fine, but if insert sd with tom image ubuntuà the system boot froom nand |
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| 05:41.16 | lundman | pull poewr and try again |
| 05:41.27 | lundman | also, did you dd the 2 boot blocks? |
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| 06:07.04 | hno | arete74, how did you write the image to the card? |
| 06:19.07 | arete74 | i have write the sd card with dd |
| 06:20.24 | arete74 | now not boot android, i have reset nand with phoneixcard |
| 06:21.20 | lundman | you make partition table, with 1st partition at 2048. You dd boot1 to block 8, you dd block2 to pos 32, then mount part1 and write the rootfs |
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| 08:54.48 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Oscar master * r4deb53231e0c /allwinner_a10/orders/redstar_beta.mdwn: |
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| 09:42.22 | Xlab | hi. I'm going to create a new board config for u-boot, with 2 banks of dram. (ainol novo7 elf). Which board name should i use? http://cl.ly/HOPy - here is a board version mark |
| 09:42.51 | mnemoc | Xlab: poke hno |
| 09:44.53 | mnemoc | Xlab: afaik the plan is to make uboot detect that |
| 09:49.04 | mnemoc | instead of adding different boards |
| 09:50.21 | Xlab | i think so |
| 09:57.25 | mnemoc | Xlab: iirc hipboi's plan was to do it on trial and error until one succeeds |
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| 10:25.38 | A1Sheds | here's your overpriced no SATA Linux desktop http://www.clientron.com/en/news_main.php?id=109 http://www.ti.com/product/tms320dm8148 Availability Disclaimer DM8148 and DM8168 products are intended for high-volume OEMs and ODMs developing video security, video conferencing, video phones and thin/zero client applications. For other customers, design support is available for DM8148 and DM8168-based products through authorized TI third parties, li |
| 10:25.38 | A1Sheds | sted here. |
| 10:26.14 | A1Sheds | http://www.ti.com/lit/ml/sprw238/sprw238.pdf |
| 10:28.35 | Xlab | U-Boot 2011.09-dirty (Jun 14 2012 - 13:55:58) Allwinner Technology |
| 10:28.35 | Xlab | CPU: SUNXI Family |
| 10:28.35 | Xlab | Board: Novo7 Elf |
| 10:28.35 | Xlab | DRAM: 1 GiB |
| 10:28.36 | Xlab | MMC: SUNXI SD/MMC: 0 |
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| 10:29.00 | Xlab | Seem like u-boot has successfully init 2 blocks of dram |
| 10:29.52 | Xlab | Starting kernel ... |
| 10:29.52 | Xlab | DRAM: 512 |
| 10:29.52 | Xlab | (…) |
| 10:29.52 | Xlab | [ 0.000000] Total Detected Memory: 512MB with 1 banks |
| 10:30.05 | Xlab | But these values are hardcoded into kernel |
| 10:30.05 | A1Sheds | http://www.clientron.com/en/product_detail.php?cid=4&id=69 here's the SATA free difficult to integrate TI DM8148 with 1GHz ARM CPU motherboard |
| 10:31.40 | Xlab | static u32 DRAMC_get_dram_size(void) - this function from core.c returns DRAM size according to platform.h defines. So it needs to be fixed :) |
| 10:34.07 | mnemoc | Xlab: please file at ticket |
| 10:35.48 | Xlab | mnemoc: huh? |
| 10:36.31 | mnemoc | in https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner's issue tracker |
| 10:39.26 | mnemoc | https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/blob/allwinner-v3.0-android-v2/arch/arm/mach-sun4i/core.c#L76 doesn't look hardcoded to me |
| 10:42.32 | Xlab | i'm testing with script.bin now |
| 10:43.05 | mnemoc | script.bin is not involved there |
| 10:43.42 | Xlab | so, where SW_DRAM_SDR_DCR points to? |
| 10:44.14 | mnemoc | SW_DRAM_SDR_DCR is the memory address where uboot stores the detected memory size |
| 10:45.45 | Xlab | But u-boot detects 1GiB now |
| 10:45.51 | mnemoc | readl(addr) reads a long from the given address |
| 10:46.26 | mnemoc | Xlab: then you are missing the part where it that *tells* the kernel it's discoveries |
| 10:46.47 | Xlab | exactly |
| 10:47.06 | mnemoc | #define SW_DRAM_SDR_DCR (SW_VA_DRAM_IO_BASE + 0x04) |
| 10:47.28 | mnemoc | #define SW_VA_DRAM_IO_BASE 0xf1c01000 |
| 11:16.52 | Xlab | https://github.com/hno/uboot-allwinner/issues/11 i just leave it there |
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| 14:21.09 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Haakon master * r9cccab30e243 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/script_for_installing_debian_on_sdcard.mdwn: V1.5 14.06.2012 Hst Bugfixes and added a makesdcard.conf |
| 14:21.47 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Haakon master * re745a8eb133f /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/script_for_installing_debian_on_sdcard.mdwn: |
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| 14:23.41 | dos_equis | are there any hardfloat drivers for the graphics on the A10? |
| 14:24.01 | specing | Yeah |
| 14:24.09 | traeak | sure, framebuffer is hardfloat :-p |
| 14:24.21 | dos_equis | 3d? |
| 14:24.32 | specing | dos_equis: You "can" rip* them from the snowball ubuntu firmware |
| 14:24.36 | specing | * illegal |
| 14:24.47 | dos_equis | haha...fair enough |
| 14:25.09 | traeak | check lima status |
| 14:26.46 | mnemoc | help is welcomed trying to find out how to fix/complete our drm/mali integratation |
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| 15:11.51 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: Giacomo master * r2624acee79b9 /allwinner_a10/orders/jaimemistus.mdwn: |
| 15:12.20 | A1Sheds | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/06/14/1343205/ubuntu-1204-ported-to-the-allwinner-a10-mk802-mini-pc |
| 15:13.15 | traeak | interesting this less capable more expensive stick is more popular |
| 15:13.15 | traeak | i guess the format... |
| 15:13.32 | A1Sheds | https://www.miniand.com/forums/forums/2/topics/1 down due to /. |
| 15:17.11 | steev | interesting |
| 15:17.24 | A1Sheds | http://liliputing.com/2012/06/how-to-run-ubuntu-linux-on-the-mk802-74-pc-on-a-stick.html |
| 15:17.52 | steev | ah sorry, not that |
| 15:18.06 | steev | https://lists.tizen.org/pipermail/general/2012-June/000686.html |
| 15:18.10 | hp_ | A1Sheds: yeah |
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| 18:15.12 | sepp | hi |
| 18:17.41 | sepp | i want to change the vga out resolution, is there some documentation for the fex file? |
| 18:19.20 | sepp | i saw something some time ago, but i can not google it |
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| 18:41.17 | mnemoc | sepp: search for lcd in https://raw.github.com/amery/sunxi-bin-archive/master/mele-a1000/sys_config1.evb.fex |
| 18:41.26 | sepp | when i google "mele fex vga" the 4th link is "Male horse trying to have sex - YouTube" o_O |
| 18:41.42 | sepp | something is really wrong with g |
| 18:42.00 | mnemoc | it knows you too well ;-) |
| 18:42.35 | sepp | hehe, you moron :p |
| 18:42.42 | mnemoc | :p |
| 18:42.48 | sepp | thanks |
| 18:43.04 | sepp | found the info i was searching |
| 18:51.34 | mnemoc | sepp: I have never done it, but the documentation in that .fex looks quite complete for someone who knows what all that is about |
| 18:52.12 | sepp | ahh, native monitor resolution |
| 18:52.15 | sepp | that is much better |
| 18:52.22 | mnemoc | kudos :) |
| 18:52.37 | mnemoc | sepp: now share your new knowledge on the wiki please :) |
| 18:53.00 | sepp | ok |
| 18:53.33 | mnemoc | so hopefully the next person doesn't end up watching videos of horses having sex |
| 18:56.34 | sepp | where should i put it? the wiki has no structure at all |
| 18:57.14 | mnemoc | a subpage of http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/ |
| 18:57.37 | mnemoc | or maybe directly there |
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| 19:12.37 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: sepp master * re4b8bc77cbac /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: |
| 19:12.56 | mnemoc | sepp: thanks :) |
| 19:14.30 | sepp | np, thanks for the pointer to the fex "documentation" |
| 19:17.30 | mnemoc | my pleasure |
| 19:32.24 | sepp | i think i need an usb switch, my kb has an usb hub so it is only one cable to unlug/plug but it is no fun |
| 19:33.40 | sepp | some device that lets you choose to which of the computers usb goes |
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| 19:43.25 | mnemoc | there is an x11 input daemon to let's you pass the mouse from one computer to another, and keyboard goes where the mouse pointer is |
| 19:45.06 | mnemoc | sepp: http://synergy-foss.org/ |
| 19:47.33 | sepp | uhh |
| 19:48.24 | mnemoc | works pretty well |
| 19:48.30 | sepp | that looks nice |
| 19:50.38 | mnemoc | works better than a usb switch ;-) |
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| 20:00.19 | sepp | sorry, but that wiki sucks |
| 20:02.09 | mnemoc | many people shares that feeling |
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| 20:06.56 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: sepp master * re40f1e8fa3df /allwinner_a10/cnx-ubuntu-script.mdwn: fixed typo |
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| 20:27.03 | lkcl | sepp: the wiki is there to collate information for hackers, to allow them to coordinate. although some users _are_ using it as a howto, it's *not* there as a "nice howto for people with no developer experience". if you're familiar with who joey hess is, and what he does, you will understand why ikiwiki was chosen. |
| 20:29.16 | lkcl | although exactly why cns-ubuntu-script.mdwn is in the top-level of the allwinner_a10 subdirectory when it should be in the hacking_the_mele_a1000 directory i don't know - i'll correct that with a git mv for you |
| 20:30.14 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r7eca2e344c54 /allwinner_a10/ (2 files in 2 dirs): move cnx-ubuntu-script page to correct location (related to hacking the mele a1000) |
| 20:30.35 | lkcl | ... hmm... actually it probably is related to all A10 devices, but... yeh, for now i've moved it to the a1000 subdirectory |
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| 20:33.48 | lkcl | sepp: ok, checking the page he says that it's only been tested for the a1000 anyway. |
| 20:35.12 | Turl | mnemoc: indeed, synergy is really neat :) |
| 20:35.32 | sepp | lkcl: uhm, you disliked that i added the cnx info? |
| 20:35.35 | mnemoc | lkcl: it's the script.bin file which defines the device-specific details... everything else is generic |
| 20:36.11 | mnemoc | Turl: :) |
| 20:37.57 | Turl | mnemoc: I've got a buddy who uses it between his expensive macbook and his quad core windows pc and shows it off to everybody lol |
| 20:38.47 | Turl | I usually work with only one pc, but I set it up once I had to configure a win pc for someone |
| 20:39.35 | Turl | so I'd use my pc and when the windows pc stopped doing whatever it was doing, I'd run another thing without even moving from my chair :P |
| 20:41.28 | mnemoc | :) |
| 20:42.04 | Turl | it didn't work on UAC dialogs back then though |
| 20:42.11 | Turl | that was the only annoying bit |
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| 21:18.04 | Xlab | hno, u-boot HEAD is reverted to v2011.09 tag, right? |
| 21:20.20 | mnemoc | Xlab: + fatwrite + boot.scr |
| 21:20.33 | Xlab | fine |
| 21:52.06 | mnemoc | Turl: is the cedarx library in android linked as part of the infrastructure, and so available to any player, or directly into the "2160P" player? |
| 21:53.26 | Turl | mnemoc: it's 'linked as part of the infraestructure' |
| 21:53.39 | Turl | but not as one would wish it was |
| 21:54.05 | Turl | they implement a 'media player' layer, like android's stagefright |
| 21:54.05 | mnemoc | -v |
| 21:54.16 | Turl | instead of just being OMX components |
| 21:54.25 | Turl | some apps don't like that much |
| 21:54.30 | Turl | flash to name one |
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| 21:55.24 | mnemoc | can you suggest a video player with playlist support than can use the cedarx layer as implemented by default? |
| 21:56.03 | mnemoc | and, can we correct that integrate it in a more useful way? |
| 21:56.24 | Turl | mnemoc: the android gallery will do |
| 21:56.35 | Turl | it doesn't have 'playlist' though |
| 21:56.50 | mnemoc | that's the feature I need :< |
| 21:56.51 | Turl | (actually I don't know of any video player with 'playlists' |
| 21:56.52 | Turl | ) |
| 21:56.57 | mnemoc | narf |
| 21:57.07 | Turl | but if you find any, it'll work |
| 21:57.25 | Turl | unless it's one of those ultra optimized!1one players that have their own NEON-based codecs |
| 21:57.26 | mnemoc | I have 3 music-video adict women ranting about that all day |
| 21:57.27 | specing | mplayers is an all-in-one |
| 21:57.31 | specing | -s |
| 21:59.10 | mnemoc | Turl: I found a couple that don't tell to do anything fancy (like been linked to ffmpeg) but they don't seem as smooth as the default player |
| 22:02.32 | ManoftheSea | soooo.... what's new with Arm-Netbooks? |
| 22:02.33 | Turl | mnemoc: take $random_file_manager and tap on a video file |
| 22:02.43 | Turl | that's the hw decoding you'll get |
| 22:03.38 | mnemoc | that's what they do today |
| 22:15.51 | mnemoc | Turl: thanks for the hints, I'll give it a try again tomorrow |
| 22:15.55 | mnemoc | good night! |
| 22:17.55 | Turl | see you! |
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| 23:14.53 | CIA-121 | rhombus-tech: https://launchpad.net/~markvdb master * r9a0429eaa85f /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: fix spelling error |
| 23:15.11 | Hydrar | Does anyone here know how hard it'd be for one to make a own ARM board? |
| 23:16.07 | Hydrar | I kinda lack ECC memory controllers, gigabit ethernet etc on all the existing boards |
| 23:17.22 | Hydrar | and I have a feeling the calxeda etc ARM servers isn't going to be anywhere close to hobbyist priced |
| 23:34.56 | rzk | you need electronics knowledge, time to read tons of datasheets and software capable of ddr routing |
| 23:36.12 | rzk | (electronics == signal integrity mostly) |
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| 23:55.09 | Hydrar | rzk: Ok, right, just figured if it was doable using a community project and buying it like a group buy, or something similar |
| 23:56.05 | A1Sheds | Hydrar, find an ARM that we can buy first, schematics and layout for some of us is routine |
| 23:57.27 | rzk | you can do it alone as well, PCB can be bought at chinese markets like iteadstudio/pcbcart, routing can be done in free version of EAGLE if you will calculate DDR somewhere else. chips are available at farnell/digi-key |
| 23:59.39 | rzk | theres is even things like this http://www.seeedstudio.com/propagate/ |