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| 01:12.23 | hno | Hmm.. seems to be a bug there. Not linked from the artikle. lkcl? |
| 01:14.22 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: hno master * r8155fd01df8f /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Building_Debian_From_Source_Code_for_Mele.mdwn: |
| 01:14.47 | hno | Ok, fixed by editing the actual page after discussion page created. |
| 01:18.36 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: hno master * reb7c296cdd2b /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Building_Debian_From_Source_Code_for_Mele/discussion.mdwn: |
| 01:19.48 | PhantomsDad | I've switched to the wip/allwinner-v3.0-android-v2/mali, but following my own instructions, it does not seem to build the mali drm module. What am I doing wrong? |
| 01:19.50 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: hno master * r1398b0721252 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/Building_Debian_From_Source_Code_for_Mele/discussion.mdwn: |
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| 01:21.20 | hno | lkcl, is there some magic "signature" macro for discussion pages? I.e. a macro that expands to your name/login and current date. |
| 02:02.42 | revident | hno, I believe mediawiki style signatures would be difficult in ikiwiki. Because ikiwiki compiles the final html files out of a rcs (git in this case) the expansion needs to happen at commit time to the repo in order to get the date and time. To do it in ikiwiki it's self would mean re-editing the source and auto-commiting it, or interpresting it from the rcs based on the commit time (and then doing that for ever signature in the source file). It's do-abl |
| 02:02.42 | revident | e, just not simple. But I could be wrong. |
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| 04:10.18 | mikey_w | Let's see you go to all of the trouble of compiling debian and setting it up and installing it to an SD card and when you boot it you have no display and can only ssh to it. Hmmmm. |
| 04:12.43 | mikey_w | Is this correct or did I miss something? |
| 05:57.20 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: nil master * r6c9d867e3a95 /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: trivial |
| 06:14.53 | hno | mikey_w, one step at a time. |
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| 08:04.23 | mnemoc | mikey_w: modprobe lcd; modprobe hdmi should give you an fb to use with X. no fbcon |
| 08:04.48 | zenitraM | modprobe disp; modprobe lcd; modprobe hdmi |
| 08:04.50 | zenitraM | (just in case) |
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| 09:04.09 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Nicolas master * r40c718be1ee6 /allwinner_a10/orders/captainigloo.mdwn: |
| 09:06.33 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Nicolas master * r735c44cd6d13 /allwinner_a10/orders/captainigloo2.mdwn: |
| 09:34.00 | eflatun | hi guys are you going to show up at computex? |
| 09:35.05 | mnemoc | I doubt |
| 09:36.41 | mnemoc | A0Sheds wanted to be there, but plans probably changed |
| 09:40.53 | eflatun | thanks for the reply |
| 09:41.04 | eflatun | mnemoc |
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| 11:18.01 | Turl | mnemoc: hey :) |
| 11:18.51 | Turl | mnemoc: please cherrypick this when you get a chance https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/3c649ecb9875a3020d9b07bed68ad471ed1e158c |
| 11:43.17 | _hp__ | wee mk802 arrived today |
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| 12:24.45 | mnemoc | _hp__: how is it? |
| 12:25.01 | mnemoc | my home's dvd player died yesterday :-/ |
| 12:27.39 | mnemoc | I'm not very into movies.... but we happen to have tons of original movies in DVDs :< |
| 12:28.02 | _hp__ | mnemoc: there is an option to disable hdcp |
| 12:28.16 | mnemoc | _hp__: by config? |
| 12:28.23 | _hp__ | yes |
| 12:28.47 | mnemoc | meaning I could hook a usb dvd driver and use it as player? |
| 12:29.14 | mnemoc | I'm very ignorant in this field :< |
| 12:29.58 | _hp__ | mnemoc: isn't it the hdmi security hno was talking about? |
| 12:30.09 | _hp__ | hmm my keyboard is not recognized by the thing |
| 12:30.20 | _hp__ | logitech usb thingy |
| 12:30.59 | mnemoc | yes, they were talking about the mele not been able to be connected to certain hdmi mornitors |
| 12:31.16 | _hp__ | duh .. my keyboard was switched off |
| 12:31.17 | _hp__ | now it works |
| 12:31.28 | mnemoc | :) |
| 12:32.12 | _hp__ | ok wifi works |
| 12:33.20 | _hp__ | screensize 1280*720 is only enabled |
| 12:36.46 | _hp__ | Android version 4.0.3 |
| 12:37.12 | _hp__ | Kernel version 3.0.8+ user1@ubuntu-server#11 |
| 12:37.15 | _hp__ | what does that mean?? |
| 12:46.55 | mnemoc | that the linux kernel running your android 4.0.3 instalation is 3.0.8+ (the normal lichee3 kernel) and was compiled on a machine named ubuntu-server by user called user1" |
| 12:50.04 | _hp__ | mnemoc: it works pretty well |
| 12:50.12 | _hp__ | i wonder if i can root the thing |
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| 13:27.43 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r4b56ef375a17 /allwinner_a10/orders/ (4 files): order processing cleanup |
| 13:39.30 | _hp__ | hi nikk |
| 13:53.19 | _hp__ | anyone know a good explorer to access shared dirs on the network? |
| 13:58.52 | _hp__ | mkv files streaming over wifi weee |
| 13:58.56 | _hp__ | with cifsmanager |
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| 15:51.58 | hno | Why are they comparing MK802 and Cotton Candy? |
| 15:53.22 | rm | why not? |
| 15:54.00 | mnemoc | it seems to be fun... |
| 15:54.18 | mnemoc | people compares the via apc board with r-pi... |
| 15:55.29 | mnemoc | rm: the cotton candy is quad cortex-a9/1GB, the mk802 is cortex-a8/512 |
| 15:55.56 | rm | both can run a web browser a mailing client and an audio/video player |
| 15:56.07 | rm | one is 4x cheaper than the other |
| 15:59.59 | PhantomsDad | How do I build the Mali modules? I change to modules/mali and run make. It says "KDIR or CPU must be specified". |
| 16:00.27 | DonkeyHotei | got a link to cotton candy? |
| 16:00.38 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: http://www.fxitech.com/products/ |
| 16:00.57 | DonkeyHotei | the mk802 is the a10 usb stick, right? |
| 16:01.06 | mnemoc | PhantomsDad: look at scripts/build_sun4i.sh |
| 16:01.10 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: yes |
| 16:01.52 | mnemoc | I love the A10, but I find pretty unfair to both to be compared |
| 16:04.46 | mnemoc | as it's unfair to compare A10-based board with ARM9/ARM11s |
| 16:07.11 | DonkeyHotei | the cotton candy website does not say what SoC it uses |
| 16:13.54 | mnemoc | http://armdevices.net/2012/05/28/allwinner-boxchip-software-engineers-at-linaroconnect-linaro-connect/ |
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| 16:27.23 | PhantomsDad | Where do I find mkbootimg? |
| 16:28.36 | mnemoc | PhantomsDad: inside the android sdk |
| 16:29.13 | mnemoc | PhantomsDad: for linux you can just ignore that |
| 16:30.13 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: the holy wikipedia says it's samsung exynos 4210 |
| 16:30.57 | DonkeyHotei | exotic |
| 16:36.47 | mnemoc | samsung exotic?? |
| 16:37.22 | DonkeyHotei | that particular one |
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| 16:40.55 | PhantomsDad | Where do the rootfs come from in the wip/allwinner-v3.0-android-v2/mali branch? Sorry for all the dumb ?s. |
| 16:41.33 | mnemoc | rootfs? |
| 16:42.05 | PhantomsDad | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.09 | mnemoc | afaik no one is using initrds |
| 16:42.19 | mnemoc | doh |
| 16:42.32 | mnemoc | search for that in your .config and replace with an empty string |
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| 16:43.40 | mnemoc | PhantomsDad: note that is a topic branch, only to collect work in progress patches to unify mali support |
| 16:44.41 | PhantomsDad | mnemoc, Understand that branch is bleeding edge. I'm just trying to get up to speed so I can help. maybe... <grin> |
| 16:44.57 | mnemoc | then it's the perfect choice :) |
| 16:45.11 | mnemoc | https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/19 |
| 16:45.49 | mnemoc | the goal is to get the latest mali stuff running on both android and linux and in drivers/gpu instead of modules/mali |
| 16:49.22 | mnemoc | and trash all the rest :p |
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| 17:03.09 | mnemoc | dumb question, is the region thing of dvds in the drive itself or in the "player"? |
| 17:03.25 | ZaEarl | drive |
| 17:04.07 | ZaEarl | player needs to know it for decrypting |
| 17:04.16 | DonkeyHotei | with rpc-1 it's in the drive and with rpc-2 it's in the player |
| 17:04.28 | DonkeyHotei | but i think vlc ignores it anyway |
| 17:04.36 | DonkeyHotei | oops |
| 17:04.37 | DonkeyHotei | typo |
| 17:04.47 | DonkeyHotei | with rpc-2 it's in the drive and with rpc-1 it's in the player |
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| 17:05.15 | ZaEarl | it's in the drive |
| 17:05.23 | DonkeyHotei | with rpc-2 it is |
| 17:05.33 | DonkeyHotei | with rpc-1 there is nothing in the drive |
| 17:06.16 | mnemoc | then if I buy a usb dvd drive to connect to a mele it will be restricted just as off-the-shelf dvd players, right? |
| 17:06.17 | ZaEarl | you mean in a custom firmware? |
| 17:06.28 | ZaEarl | stock drives have a region setting |
| 17:06.45 | DonkeyHotei | used to be all drives were rpc-1 from the factory and only the player enforced it |
| 17:06.59 | DonkeyHotei | but no one makes those anymore |
| 17:07.21 | mnemoc | :< |
| 17:07.43 | DonkeyHotei | there are firmware patches for some models to make them emulate rpc-1 |
| 17:08.05 | DonkeyHotei | the big exception is any drive made by lite-on |
| 17:08.20 | mnemoc | any brand in particular to prefer, or to avoid? |
| 17:08.39 | DonkeyHotei | lite-on drives can be rpc-1 even as stock, with a simple software switch |
| 17:09.03 | mnemoc | so, let's find a lite-on usb drive |
| 17:09.03 | DonkeyHotei | mnemoc: i don't type very fast |
| 17:09.15 | DonkeyHotei | usb can't work |
| 17:09.26 | DonkeyHotei | has to be pata or sata |
| 17:09.31 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 17:09.34 | mnemoc | not nice |
| 17:10.25 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: did you seriously not know that about lite-on?? |
| 17:10.32 | mnemoc | sorry for the flood... i have the bad habit of typing to fast :< |
| 17:10.37 | ZaEarl | we don't hack drives |
| 17:11.02 | ZaEarl | any drive we've ever used has had a region setting built-in |
| 17:11.14 | rm | who uses DVD anymore, anyways |
| 17:11.18 | mnemoc | so if I want to use a mele to watch dvd movies I need a *sata* lite-on drive? |
| 17:11.31 | rm | I don't remember the last time I put in a DVD into the drive |
| 17:12.02 | ZaEarl | we do use liteon a lot. they're good rives |
| 17:12.03 | ZaEarl | drives |
| 17:12.05 | mnemoc | my wife and daughters have a collection of over 80 DVDs |
| 17:12.20 | mnemoc | but the player died yesterday |
| 17:12.50 | ZaEarl | mnemoc, various regions? |
| 17:12.50 | DonkeyHotei | [Mon 2012-05-28 10:11:03 AM PDT] <ZaEarl> any drive we've ever used has had a region setting built-in |
| 17:12.50 | DonkeyHotei | [Mon 2012-05-28 10:12:03 AM PDT] <ZaEarl> we do use liteon a lot. they're good rives |
| 17:13.14 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: those two statements directly contradict each other |
| 17:13.15 | mnemoc | ZaEarl: mostly region 2... but a few exceptions from latin america |
| 17:13.41 | mnemoc | ZaEarl: but I can rip those if there is no other option |
| 17:13.55 | ZaEarl | you can change the region setting typically 5 times |
| 17:14.20 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: the software switch on lite-on makes that unlimited; no hacking needed |
| 17:14.57 | mnemoc | so usb won't work at all? or only for hacking multiregion? |
| 17:15.02 | ZaEarl | DonkeyHotei, what software switch? |
| 17:15.03 | DonkeyHotei | mnemoc: the latter |
| 17:15.43 | mnemoc | thanks |
| 17:15.50 | DonkeyHotei | mnemoc: all usb drives are pata or sata internally anyway, with a usb bridge. pull it out, connect it directly, run the utility, put it back |
| 17:16.09 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:17.28 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: http://dhc014.rpc1.org/LtnRPC/ |
| 17:17.30 | mnemoc | I was fearing there was some sort of protection of original dvd make them hard to watch over usb |
| 17:17.54 | DonkeyHotei | mnemoc: no, just the usb bridge chip gets in the way |
| 17:17.55 | ZaEarl | DonkeyHotei, looks like a software hack |
| 17:18.24 | ZaEarl | and a windows one at that |
| 17:18.31 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: it's just an undocumented software switch the drive is already made with. it's a toggle |
| 17:18.55 | DonkeyHotei | run it once, and the drive is good to go |
| 17:19.07 | DonkeyHotei | run it again, and it's back to how it was |
| 17:20.03 | DonkeyHotei | applies to all dvd drives lite-on has ever made, even ones rebranded as other brands |
| 17:20.13 | ZaEarl | granted, it's an easy hack, but it's a hack none the less |
| 17:20.14 | mnemoc | all this is so..... absurd :< |
| 17:20.47 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: then it's a hack deliberately engineered into the drives by lite-on themselves |
| 17:21.03 | ZaEarl | and where's their tool to switch it? |
| 17:21.44 | DonkeyHotei | lite-on had a tool on their site to do it years ago, but they removed it when other makers started moving to rpc-2 |
| 17:22.02 | DonkeyHotei | it bitrotted, so this one was made to replace it |
| 17:22.14 | ZaEarl | simply put, the dvd licensing makes it so |
| 17:22.34 | DonkeyHotei | indeed |
| 17:22.51 | DonkeyHotei | but the dos version on that page works fine on freedos iirc |
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| 17:24.42 | MaDMaLKaV | mnemoc , cables received, thanks you, I owe you one |
| 17:25.17 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: :) |
| 17:27.16 | DonkeyHotei | the reasoning behind rpc-2 is not difficult to understand |
| 17:28.06 | DonkeyHotei | in japan, dvd's cost so much more than in the usa that it's cheaper to order a dvd from the usa and pay shipping than to buy the same dvd in a local store |
| 17:29.03 | DonkeyHotei | region coding will encourage them to buy locally |
| 17:31.19 | DonkeyHotei | also, japan uses the same video encoding for dvd's as the usa and the same region code as the uk, which uses a different video encoding |
| 17:31.59 | DonkeyHotei | all to the same end |
| 17:38.46 | MaDMaLKaV | DonkeyHotei , they are releasing a 30th anniversariy edition of an anime I love in bluray, and they are askin 40000 yen for the standard edition and 48000 for the premium edition, that is INSANE |
| 17:38.47 | MaDMaLKaV | XD |
| 17:38.59 | MaDMaLKaV | 480 euros for a 30 years old series remaster? |
| 17:39.03 | MaDMaLKaV | in-sa-ne |
| 17:39.30 | DonkeyHotei | is it a limited pressing? |
| 17:39.57 | DonkeyHotei | also, what i said applies to dvd's; no clue about bluray regions |
| 17:40.41 | MaDMaLKaV | the 48000 yen is a limited pressing , the other not |
| 17:40.59 | DonkeyHotei | how many discs? |
| 17:41.15 | MaDMaLKaV | 6 |
| 17:42.31 | DonkeyHotei | $500 for 6 discs is $80 per disc; sounds like japan pricing indeed |
| 17:43.07 | DonkeyHotei | referring to the standard edition, that is |
| 17:49.52 | MaDMaLKaV | insane |
| 17:56.44 | mnemoc | and they wonder about piracy... |
| 18:01.37 | DonkeyHotei | blame canada |
| 18:01.57 | revident | fires the Chicken Cannon at DonkeyHotei |
| 18:21.19 | mnemoc | Turl: I just pushed your commit. btw, did you see #19 ? |
| 18:28.31 | Turl | mnemoc: yep, it'd be good if someone who has the libs would upload them :) I don't want to download a full ubuntu image for 4-5 .so :p |
| 18:28.43 | Turl | I'll upgrade when I get a chance to test |
| 18:29.08 | mnemoc | zenitraM: ---^ |
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| 18:30.12 | mnemoc | Turl: thanks :) |
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| 18:52.05 | Turl | mnemoc: on that linaro video there's a contact card of someone from allwinner |
| 18:52.11 | Turl | maybe we can get a proper license? :P |
| 18:52.53 | mnemoc | try :) |
| 18:53.10 | ZaEarl | I just loved the question, "so, you can release a single version that will upgrade every single allwinner device out there?" |
| 18:53.14 | mnemoc | if you get a reply at all it will be a success |
| 18:53.46 | mnemoc | I love his videos, but I *hate* his interviews |
| 18:54.13 | Turl | hm |
| 18:54.20 | Turl | it's from ARM China, not allwinner |
| 18:54.42 | mnemoc | the "translator"? |
| 18:54.43 | ZaEarl | yeah, not going to get anything out of an arm guy |
| 18:54.56 | Turl | mnemoc: yeah |
| 18:55.44 | Turl | ZaEarl: btw if you have some spare time and processing cycles, you might want to sync all your tree and do a clean build |
| 18:56.13 | ZaEarl | Turl, when I do a build it's much smaller than yours. do you have a manifest containing all your components? |
| 18:56.21 | mnemoc | eva.wu@allwinnertech.com might |
| 18:56.49 | Turl | ZaEarl: I just use CM + the repos on the github team |
| 18:57.33 | Turl | ZaEarl: are you sure you're building CM? (cm_zatab-userdebug) |
| 18:57.39 | ZaEarl | I wonder if the CM manifest is up to date |
| 18:58.25 | ZaEarl | full_zatab-userdebug |
| 18:59.11 | DonkeyHotei | hipboi would know whether eva.wu@allwinnertech.com is the right person |
| 18:59.48 | Turl | ZaEarl: full_ is generic, that's why your stuff lacks a lot of stuff |
| 18:59.51 | ZaEarl | i'll try cm_ |
| 19:00.00 | mnemoc | luke CCed her in one of the mails |
| 19:15.11 | hno | _hp__, so this A10 device can disable HDCP? |
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| 19:20.19 | mnemoc | hno: can one assume GPL acceptance from a MODULE_LICENSE("GPL") if some of the involved files don't have the header? |
| 19:25.32 | DonkeyHotei | mnemoc: if there is no source anyway, it's academic |
| 19:26.30 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: there is source |
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| 19:27.17 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: problem is, can we mainline it or not |
| 19:27.27 | DonkeyHotei | source to mali? |
| 19:27.54 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: nah, I'm talking about A1X sources as been discussed on the ML |
| 19:28.12 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: and yes, there is source for all kernel drivers for mali |
| 19:28.29 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: also for the 2D part. only the 3D userspace is closed |
| 19:29.24 | DonkeyHotei | ok, well, if there is a binary userspace for both armel and armhf for both android and gnu/linux, it's not that big a deal in the short term |
| 19:30.00 | DonkeyHotei | i'm thinking more about goodix_touch_3F anyhow |
| 19:30.29 | mnemoc | contact goodix |
| 19:31.25 | ZaEarl | I would think mainline would expect valid copyright/licensing in each file. |
| 19:32.30 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: if what the license is is well-established, the header can be added downstream |
| 19:32.38 | mnemoc | ZaEarl: if MODULE_LICENSE("GPL") has value, we can consider the lack of headers in all files a typo and.... add them |
| 19:33.13 | mnemoc | a mere style mistake |
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| 19:33.49 | mnemoc | oh, olimex on the house |
| 19:34.00 | Tsvetan | hi |
| 19:34.09 | mnemoc | hi Tsvetan |
| 19:34.19 | Tsvetan | wow lot of ppl |
| 19:34.23 | ZaEarl | mnemoc, do all the files have copyright notice? |
| 19:34.43 | mnemoc | ZaEarl: no, but all drivers have MODULE_LICENSE("GPL") |
| 19:36.14 | mnemoc | otoh arch/arm/mach-sun*i don't have a single mention to GPL |
| 19:37.51 | mnemoc | mach-sun?i is somehow easier to reimplement than the drivers |
| 19:38.38 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: it's a popular channel :) |
| 19:39.32 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: is it possible for you to ask for the kernel sources and then request an statement that everything there is GPL? |
| 19:39.56 | mnemoc | Tsvetan: at least for A10's code.... it would make life much easier |
| 19:40.06 | mnemoc | even for A13 |
| 19:40.30 | Tsvetan | today we released the allwinner parcel from customs and I wait tomorrow DHL to deliver it |
| 19:40.43 | Tsvetan | I'll let you know what is inside |
| 19:41.15 | Tsvetan | Wits promised to send all info they ship with their EVB |
| 19:41.27 | Tsvetan | but I will believe when I see it ;) |
| 19:41.29 | mnemoc | because I can make a generic plat-sunxi dir based on sun4i code (if GPL) and use that plarform subtree to reimplement the missing A13 details |
| 19:41.42 | mnemoc | looking forward to it |
| 19:42.17 | ZaEarl | mnemoc, a lot of arch/arm/mach-sun4i files include GPL notices |
| 19:42.58 | mnemoc | $ grep -rn GPL arch/arm/mach-sun4i/ | wc -l |
| 19:42.58 | mnemoc | 1 |
| 19:43.08 | mnemoc | $ grep -rn GPL arch/arm/mach-sun4i/ |
| 19:43.08 | mnemoc | arch/arm/mach-sun4i/sys_config.c:825:EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(gpio_request); |
| 19:43.13 | mnemoc | not like a lot to me |
| 19:43.37 | ZaEarl | try "GNU" |
| 19:43.52 | mnemoc | better :) |
| 19:44.27 | mnemoc | 24 files |
| 19:45.12 | mnemoc | of 66 |
| 19:45.25 | ZaEarl | good enough for me :) |
| 19:46.08 | mnemoc | so you volunteer to reimplement the rest? :p |
| 19:46.27 | ZaEarl | I volunteer to use it as if it is all GPL licensed. :) |
| 19:46.43 | mnemoc | specially the standby module is.... annoying |
| 19:56.18 | mnemoc | $ git diff v3.3.7.. | lsdiff --strip=1 | sort -u | xargs -r grep -l -v GNU -- 2> /dev/null | wc -l |
| 19:56.21 | mnemoc | 3938 |
| 19:56.58 | mnemoc | that's a NICE number of files not including the GNU token |
| 19:57.48 | DonkeyHotei | what about the GPL token? |
| 19:58.20 | DonkeyHotei | and for GNU, might as well also use -w -i |
| 19:59.06 | mnemoc | $ git diff v3.3.7.. | lsdiff --strip=1 | sort -u | xargs -r grep -l -w -i -v GNU -- 2> /dev/null | wc -l |
| 19:59.09 | mnemoc | 3938 |
| 19:59.29 | DonkeyHotei | and GPL? |
| 19:59.33 | mnemoc | something must be wrong there... |
| 20:00.02 | DonkeyHotei | try GPL |
| 20:00.30 | mnemoc | git diff v3.3.7.. | lsdiff --strip=1 | sort -u | xargs -r grep -l -w -i -v -e GNU -e GPL -- 2> /dev/null | wc -l |
| 20:00.34 | mnemoc | 3937 |
| 20:00.38 | mnemoc | scratches his head |
| 20:00.54 | DonkeyHotei | so, one file has GPL but not GNU |
| 20:01.42 | mnemoc | this can't be right... |
| 20:02.44 | DonkeyHotei | try xargs -l instead of xargs -r |
| 20:03.18 | mnemoc | same result |
| 20:03.24 | ZaEarl | how about -e {GNU,GPL} |
| 20:03.47 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: that would be -E i think |
| 20:04.03 | ZaEarl | however you do "or" |
| 20:04.48 | DonkeyHotei | -E enables extended pattern syntax |
| 20:05.06 | mnemoc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.09 | mnemoc | arch/arm/kernel/head.S |
| 20:05.13 | mnemoc | $ grep GNU arch/arm/kernel/head.S * it under the terms of the GNU General Public License version 2 as |
| 20:06.37 | mnemoc | so I can't use grep like that |
| 20:09.07 | DonkeyHotei | ZaEarl: it would be 'GNU|GPL'; no -E needed |
| 20:09.40 | mnemoc | $ git diff v3.3.7.. | lsdiff --strip=1 | sort -u | while read f; do if ! grep -q -w -i -e GNU -e GPL "$f" 2> /dev/null; then echo $f; fi; done | wc -l |
| 20:09.43 | mnemoc | 2532 |
| 20:10.03 | mnemoc | at least now I can't spot any mistake on the list |
| 20:11.14 | mnemoc | adding grep -v '^modules/' to the pot it drops to 891 |
| 20:11.33 | mnemoc | (those are the third party drivers) |
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| 20:22.45 | mnemoc | 946 not saying GNU, 1188 not saying GPL and 891 not saying either |
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| 20:56.45 | hno | mnemoc, no MODULE_LICENSE statement do not mean much. |
| 20:58.07 | mnemoc | :( |
| 20:58.09 | hno | and arch/arm/mach-sun4i do have several important GPL licensed files like core.c |
| 20:58.26 | mnemoc | http://dpaste.com/752851/ <--- these don't |
| 20:58.41 | mnemoc | clock and pm are specially harmful |
| 20:58.45 | hno | yes. |
| 20:58.59 | hno | hard to surive without them. |
| 20:59.10 | hno | well.. pm is optional. |
| 20:59.17 | mnemoc | :) |
| 20:59.50 | mnemoc | it's one of the key features for tablets together with video decoding |
| 20:59.52 | hno | also several includes have bad licenses. |
| 21:00.49 | mnemoc | if tsvetan or luke gets an statement for sun4i code that can be used for plat-sunxi |
| 21:00.57 | mnemoc | and the missing bits will be few |
| 21:01.24 | hno | yes, we can always hope. |
| 21:05.10 | hno | for now I choose to ignore it. But will be happy if there comes a release with GPL license blurb. |
| 21:05.56 | hno | do not plan to reimplement anything only because allwinner have not placed an usable license blurb in the file. |
| 21:06.22 | hno | and for most parts I don't see how to do that without using their code as reference. |
| 21:07.21 | mnemoc | I believe that with a bus we can remove most of the allwinner stuff from most of the drivers |
| 21:07.22 | hno | there isn't exacly any available documentatoin on those parts where the code have bad licenses. |
| 21:07.32 | mnemoc | but impossible for the video drivers for example |
| 21:07.49 | hno | what do you mean by bus? |
| 21:08.43 | mnemoc | a virtual bus scanning script.bin and doing the gpio setup in a generic way |
| 21:10.15 | hno | still don't get how you intend to solve drivers with that. The PIO programming is trivial, the hard part is the actual drivers talking to the peripherial I/O blocks. |
| 21:10.24 | hno | I/O is not done using GPIO. |
| 21:12.28 | mnemoc | yes, but IO seems pretty standard after providing the paramters |
| 21:12.41 | hno | Only UART and SATA is trivial, using industry standard I/O registers. And those drivers are GPL. |
| 21:13.04 | mnemoc | audio is ac97 |
| 21:13.29 | hno | USB, NAND, SD, CSI, .... |
| 21:13.34 | mnemoc | :) |
| 21:14.01 | mnemoc | it won't be fast.... AW has time to make their statement :p |
| 21:14.06 | hno | all fairly complex drivers with non.-GPL licenses. |
| 21:14.13 | mnemoc | :( |
| 21:15.00 | hno | where is the audio driver? |
| 21:16.01 | hno | found it. |
| 21:16.09 | mnemoc | sound/soc/sun* |
| 21:16.26 | hno | nicely GPL licensed. |
| 21:17.00 | mnemoc | even sun5i bits :) |
| 21:17.22 | hno | no sun3i sound? |
| 21:17.42 | mnemoc | nope |
| 21:18.19 | hno | and no sun3 defconfig? |
| 21:18.55 | mnemoc | I faked one from versatile to make test builds, but nothing real |
| 21:19.49 | mnemoc | they seem to have abandoned it before 2.6.36 |
| 21:21.01 | mnemoc | there are no explicit sun3i comments in the released 2.6.36 tree |
| 21:21.07 | mnemoc | commits |
| 21:23.22 | hno | mm. looks lijke it's added more as a reference |
| 21:24.32 | mnemoc | i guess "benn" made the initial import before getting the memo about it been abandoned |
| 21:25.15 | mnemoc | and the rest of sun3i got pulled together with sun4i equivalents |
| 21:27.35 | mnemoc | btw, if you want to play with the 3.3 wip tree http://dpaste.com/752860/ is still uncommited |
| 21:27.45 | mnemoc | http://dpaste.com/752860/plain/ |
| 21:29.02 | mnemoc | I haven't found time to finish that yet :< |
| 21:29.40 | mnemoc | and there are two tickets opne for that tree of non-trivial problems |
| 21:35.00 | hno | android gadget and serial port changes? |
| 21:37.26 | mnemoc | yes |
| 22:04.06 | mnemoc | one last commit, and good night |
| 22:09.59 | hno | noght |
| 22:10.07 | hno | night |
| 22:17.46 | mnemoc | ok, now for real. good night! |
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