| 00:46.00 | DonkeyHotei | lerc: the data bus, or the address bus? |
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| 06:55.08 | mnemoc | hno: http://i.imgur.com/1xd2j.jpg |
| 07:00.03 | t0dbld | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:01.28 | mnemoc | :) |
| 07:01.53 | t0dbld | <----- is sleep deprived |
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| 07:05.28 | t0dbld | well on that note ill work from bed for rest of night hoping tofall asleep its only 3:00am |
| 07:05.39 | t0dbld | night guys see ya in a few hours :-) |
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| 07:06.07 | mnemoc | t0dbld: what's your TZ? |
| 07:11.07 | t0dbld | gmt-5 or eastern |
| 07:14.24 | mnemoc | somehow I thought you were on the other shore |
| 07:17.51 | hno | mnemoc, that looks even worse than mine ;) |
| 07:17.57 | mnemoc | ^^ |
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| 07:21.01 | gaara_akash | has anyone here ever compiled the leaked AOSP 4.0.3 for a10? |
| 07:21.41 | mnemoc | gaara_akash: many people, many also lingering in this channel, but not me |
| 07:21.47 | mnemoc | err |
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| 07:22.06 | mnemoc | gaara_akash: many people, many also lingering in this channel, but not me |
| 07:22.54 | gaara_akash | mnemoc, good to know, but i was wondering how come no one has written a full fledged process of compiling for one |
| 07:23.38 | gaara_akash | or maybe there is somewhere, but i'm unable to find it...hoping a week of searching should have helped me find it, but still havent :) |
| 07:23.47 | mnemoc | maybe because they find there is enough information already? |
| 07:24.36 | mnemoc | gaara_akash: wait some hours and android people will start talking |
| 07:24.48 | mnemoc | gaara_akash: then you can attack |
| 07:24.55 | gaara_akash | :) thanks mnemoc |
| 07:30.21 | mnemoc | Turl: your fix for O= makes `make` recompile dram/ every time :< |
| 07:56.38 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Ada master * rb639be7f7a4d /allwinner_a10/orders/nqn.mdwn: |
| 08:12.28 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/store/300981/211479663-541957680/wholesale-tablet-pc-allwinner-9-7-allwinner-A10-boxchip-1GHz-1G-DDR3-8G-HDD-HDMI-WIFI.html?promotionId=100008321 |
| 08:12.40 | rm | seems to be a nice deal |
| 08:13.39 | mnemoc | it's in the normal price for those tablets these days |
| 08:14.07 | mnemoc | I've seen equivalent specs since $190 (with free shipping too) |
| 08:26.22 | mnemoc | rm: after some quick search, http://www.priceangels.com/Quanzhi-A10-Android4-0-3-1-5GHz-8G-9-7-inch-Five-Point-Capacitive-Tablet-PC--Silver--s388520.html |
| 08:28.26 | mnemoc | but somehow this one looks nicer: http://www.myefox.com/icoo-d90w-a10-ultrathin-android-4-0-tablet-pc9-7-inch-capacitive-screen-dual-camera-p-323119 |
| 08:30.42 | mnemoc | the first didn't explicitly say IPS, http://www.focalprice.com/CE0052X/ZBS_A9000_97_Capacitive_IPS_Touch_Screen_Android_403_Tablet_PC.html is $204 and says so |
| 08:53.53 | rm | good point |
| 08:54.06 | rm | although both of these have 5000-6000 mAh batteries |
| 08:54.13 | rm | while the Aliexpress one claims to have 7800 |
| 08:57.40 | mnemoc | if it's true.... |
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| 12:17.46 | nikk_ | mnemoc heh, I tested my new CM9 with older 3.0.8 kernel, and there all 2 csi cameras worked (detected ty drivers), and no USB hub wakeups. But, looks like i lost my touch keys forever by all those experiments ;-) |
| 12:21.42 | mnemoc | nikk_: o_O |
| 12:26.24 | nikk_ | maybe, it's patchcord )) don't know how, but, when I started camera app, i saw errors in logcat on V4L controls and it FC. After, on other build, it rebooted my tab hard. Tochkeys were working fine, now they silent. Driver loaded, input device exists, but no breath ))) |
| 12:26.51 | mnemoc | not nice |
| 12:26.58 | nikk_ | it's ok ) |
| 12:27.10 | nikk_ | this tab for experiments ;-) |
| 12:27.22 | nikk_ | touchscreen works so i'm happy ) |
| 12:27.41 | nikk_ | but tochkeys - not. error on i2c tx |
| 12:30.16 | nikk_ | but, something wrong / different in PM controls between 3.0.8 and 3.0.31. |
| 12:31.09 | mnemoc | when was the last time v2 worked for you? |
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| 12:32.48 | nikk_ | as in 3.0.8 i didn't see flashing usb hub lights. what do you mean? I didn't use it before, as I was on 3.0.8 stock, and self-build after source drop. Now I compiled it with CM9. |
| 12:33.32 | mnemoc | nikk_: can you try reverting the changes in mach-sun4i/pm/standby? |
| 12:34.15 | nikk_ | hm, if there was not so many, yes |
| 12:34.38 | mnemoc | 3-4 commits at most |
| 12:38.22 | nikk_ | ok, i'll check it |
| 12:39.06 | mnemoc | nikk_: these https://gist.github.com/2781346 |
| 12:39.56 | mnemoc | line 8 is dupe |
| 12:40.39 | nikk_ | by descriptin, there no changes in PM logic ;-) how to apply it via git? |
| 12:40.51 | mnemoc | git revert $hash |
| 12:40.58 | nikk_ | ok |
| 12:41.04 | mnemoc | nope, nothing in the logic at all |
| 12:41.13 | mnemoc | but maybe unforseen side effects |
| 12:41.44 | nikk_ | revert all at once? |
| 12:41.59 | mnemoc | one by one, from top to bottom |
| 12:42.12 | mnemoc | need to go, back in 20m |
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| 13:26.24 | ekimia | Hi all |
| 13:26.30 | ekimia | Just receives my A2000 |
| 13:26.52 | ekimia | someone have the link for the beta 4.0 rom i saw the other day ? thanks |
| 13:28.45 | ekimia | ok got it https://www.wuala.com/zercosz/Mele%20A2000/Firmware/?key=ThisIsFC2012 |
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| 13:58.46 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r4c716e8b8c22 /allwinner_a10/orders/ (7 files): order processing cleanup |
| 14:05.03 | hp_ | ekimia.. tell me if you get hdmi working please |
| 14:19.01 | traeak | hp_: it works, you just have to be specific about the order you load the modules |
| 14:21.28 | traeak | android4 version, is that one any good? |
| 14:32.35 | hp_ | traeak thats what i want to try out |
| 14:32.52 | hp_ | traeak i didn't find a working image yet for my A2000 |
| 14:34.54 | hp_ | mele_20120503_v1.6.img <<-- anyone tried this? |
| 14:43.59 | traeak | hp_: a2000 is ident to a1000 |
| 14:44.07 | traeak | hp_: i have the other v1.6 on my internal |
| 14:44.15 | traeak | is there any difference between the 2 files? |
| 14:44.40 | traeak | if i show that to my wife she may take away my mele to use for watching chinese tv...maybe |
| 14:45.17 | hp_ | traeak: hehehe |
| 14:50.17 | hp_ | traeak your running android right? |
| 14:57.12 | traeak | hp_: no archlinux with mnemonic's v2 kernel |
| 14:57.29 | hp_ | traeak using hdmi? |
| 14:57.53 | traeak | hp_: yup, but sadly only a 1280x720 |
| 14:58.14 | hp_ | traeak.. wish i could download your image.. :) |
| 14:58.17 | hp_ | its a start right |
| 14:59.35 | traeak | module order is important |
| 15:00.26 | traeak | disp lcd hdmi |
| 15:00.42 | traeak | hp_: probably so. i actually started with the ubuntu image to make sure it loaded |
| 15:00.46 | traeak | i mean debian |
| 15:00.52 | traeak | and then overlaid with other stuff |
| 15:01.13 | hp_ | traeak.. but the debian image will not load directly for hdmi i think.. |
| 15:01.19 | traeak | i guess i should consider trying to make a guide |
| 15:01.37 | traeak | hp_: i don't know, i didn't try because i personally don't like debian very much :-p |
| 15:05.34 | traeak | hp_: i would have to break out another card and do a dry run at a build |
| 15:06.04 | traeak | and the fun finding a place to store the kernel image as well |
| 15:06.19 | hp_ | traeak hehe yah |
| 15:07.04 | traeak | hp_: it could be the arch linux arm guys aren't assholes like the normal maintainers ... but we'd need to get a kernel mainlined for that |
| 15:09.15 | A0Sheds | heh... bingo |
| 15:10.00 | A0Sheds | don't underestimate to abilities of the archlinux arm devs to be a problem |
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| 15:11.46 | hp_ | traeak how about a temp google drive space? :) |
| 15:12.16 | hp_ | or can't you make files public there? |
| 15:12.35 | traeak | dunno, don't have temp drive space anywhere |
| 15:13.19 | traeak | the bigger issue is effort..i have to get back to my day job which is currently "fail" on trying to optimize something |
| 15:13.48 | hp_ | traeak hehe i recognize that.. |
| 15:14.04 | traeak | i'm actually burnt out |
| 15:16.42 | hp_ | traeak well only remidy for that.. rest rest rest :) |
| 15:18.04 | traeak | hp_: hehe, i had too much of that...was sick for a few weeks, burnt out before that |
| 15:18.07 | traeak | okay |
| 15:18.12 | traeak | i HATE HATE HATE cmake |
| 15:18.52 | traeak | what i would do: use mnemoc's u-boot image |
| 15:18.58 | traeak | allow someone to download |
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| 15:19.11 | traeak | ArchLinuxARM-omap-smp-latest.tar.gz |
| 15:19.28 | traeak | and provide /lib/modules & uImage |
| 15:22.11 | hp_ | traek described here http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=2709&start=10 <<-- i guess |
| 15:22.38 | traeak | jeje |
| 15:22.39 | traeak | hehe |
| 15:22.42 | traeak | those are my "hack" instructions |
| 15:22.50 | traeak | i meant to redo that properly |
| 15:22.56 | traeak | i wanted to see if i got any response |
| 15:23.12 | hp_ | hehe |
| 15:24.18 | traeak | and i punted mnemoc's boot image link |
| 15:24.48 | hp_ | the hands.com? |
| 15:25.02 | hp_ | ahh amery |
| 15:27.34 | traeak | or was it hno? crap |
| 15:29.24 | hp_ | amery is mnemoc |
| 15:29.33 | hp_ | time for zz here |
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| 17:35.39 | steev_ | traeak: sadly, that's pretty much how most arm installs go, not so much a hack as.... that's just the way it goes |
| 17:35.58 | steev_ | at the moment i'm trying to buidl CM9 for my LY-F1 |
| 17:36.01 | steev_ | build* |
| 17:36.21 | steev_ | mostly because whilst seby's image is nice, i dislike trebuchet and want the android launcher2 back |
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| 17:38.02 | leojrfs | hi |
| 17:38.15 | leojrfs | do anyone here got a mele a1000? |
| 17:44.49 | leojrfs | i cant get adb working so i can start hacking :/ |
| 17:58.58 | traeak | leojrfs: yes have one |
| 17:59.04 | traeak | but not using adb, why you need adb ? |
| 17:59.28 | leojrfs | to upload u-boot |
| 17:59.37 | leojrfs | and console ttl working |
| 18:00.25 | leojrfs | im still discovering all about A10 =P |
| 18:00.32 | leojrfs | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/ |
| 18:00.36 | leojrfs | im following this steps |
| 18:05.10 | leojrfs | traek, how are you using it? |
| 18:05.17 | leojrfs | *traeak |
| 18:10.10 | traeak | leojrfs: right now? just playing |
| 18:10.34 | traeak | interested in using as very light duty machine hooked up to computer or something |
| 18:10.42 | traeak | i mean hooked up to monitor/tv or something |
| 18:11.00 | traeak | very small chance could abuse this for work, but very small chance |
| 18:11.09 | leojrfs | are you using the new kernel? |
| 18:11.22 | leojrfs | from linux-allwinner git? |
| 18:18.07 | traeak | mnemoc's v2 kernel yes |
| 18:18.48 | traeak | https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner |
| 18:18.50 | traeak | that one |
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| 18:19.29 | traeak | i used mnemoc's default config |
| 18:19.37 | traeak | crap what was that again? (grr) |
| 18:19.48 | traeak | it's in the git repo but under one of configs |
| 18:21.24 | leojrfs | traeak didnt you upload u-boot using adb? |
| 18:21.47 | leojrfs | i want to get a distro working so i can test HD video |
| 18:22.37 | traeak | leojrfs: i just work with an sdcard |
| 18:22.43 | traeak | so there's no need |
| 18:23.02 | leojrfs | well, for now i can use that method |
| 18:23.05 | traeak | and i believe you can mount the nand directly read/write |
| 18:23.10 | leojrfs | hmm |
| 18:23.12 | traeak | and trash it that way from an sd card |
| 18:23.17 | leojrfs | so i will not need adb |
| 18:23.23 | traeak | it doesn't matter if you trash it since the sdcard will *always* boot |
| 18:23.26 | traeak | i believe that's true |
| 18:23.29 | leojrfs | cool |
| 18:23.40 | leojrfs | do you know were i cant get somo how to? |
| 18:23.55 | traeak | it's cobbled around, mostly rhombus website |
| 18:24.02 | traeak | mailing list as well |
| 18:24.07 | traeak | but it's all scattered sadly |
| 18:24.11 | leojrfs | :/ |
| 18:24.47 | traeak | IMHO it will stay scattered until we get patches into the mainline kernel |
| 18:25.04 | leojrfs | traeak, is video working good? |
| 18:25.06 | traeak | or something like that |
| 18:25.12 | traeak | leojrfs: framebuffer only |
| 18:25.23 | leojrfs | so no HD video? |
| 18:25.24 | traeak | leojrfs: i only have 1280x720 |
| 18:25.46 | traeak | umm... look at the bottom here |
| 18:25.47 | traeak | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/ |
| 18:26.01 | traeak | yes video will be there and accelerated (weehoo!) |
| 18:26.10 | traeak | but it's scattered yet |
| 18:27.04 | traeak | basically a guy who works at the mele factory |
| 18:27.19 | traeak | gave full specs and code for the dsp to an xbmc coder |
| 18:27.33 | traeak | so yes it will come |
| 18:27.44 | traeak | and this think should trash the raspberry pi all over the place when it gets there |
| 18:27.53 | traeak | thing i mean |
| 18:28.10 | leojrfs | traeak, i want to use A1000 as network media player (a specific purpose), and other embedded purposes |
| 18:28.27 | leojrfs | so i will got to wait untill i can test video playback i see |
| 18:29.36 | traeak | android may serve that better today perhaps |
| 18:30.02 | traeak | check into cm9 for that |
| 18:30.27 | leojrfs | this is not to play video in my house, so android is not an option |
| 18:31.00 | traeak | http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=126995&page=11 |
| 18:31.07 | traeak | check the bottom of that |
| 18:31.16 | traeak | it means: good things to come |
| 18:31.38 | traeak | and i think that also means that every single part of the alwinner a10 will have open source support (once lima is done) |
| 18:31.55 | traeak | rpi is locked up hard on the gpu/dsp (if it has a dsp, dunno) |
| 18:31.59 | leojrfs | cool |
| 18:32.13 | leojrfs | yeah, blobs stuff |
| 18:32.28 | leojrfs | anyways this 2160p breaks my heart =P |
| 18:33.52 | leojrfs | well, tnks for clearing me of most of dev stuff |
| 18:33.58 | mnemoc | the decoder handles 2160p, but not the output |
| 18:34.13 | leojrfs | yes, it makes all sense |
| 18:34.15 | leojrfs | =) |
| 18:34.20 | leojrfs | brb |
| 18:36.13 | MaDMaLKaV | I thought that 2160p stuff refered to the 3d playback support |
| 18:36.33 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: not even the datasheet is clear about that :< |
| 18:37.02 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: btw, I sent you the wires this morning |
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| 18:38.02 | MaDMaLKaV | thanks :) |
| 18:38.14 | traeak | all the allwinner guys need to do is swap out the cortex-a8 part with a dual core a9, leave all the rest along and that will be epic win |
| 18:38.22 | traeak | alone i mean |
| 18:38.35 | traeak | or even a15 and don't change any of the rest |
| 18:40.39 | mnemoc | traeak: they are working on a cortex-a9 called "sun6i" and linux 3.3 at the moment |
| 18:40.58 | ZaEarl | the mali400 is good, but I want better |
| 18:41.00 | mnemoc | but I bet the marketing name for this a9 will be a15 |
| 18:41.34 | mnemoc | f* it .... I can't keep it like this. |
| 18:41.39 | mnemoc | sudo apt-get autoremove pulseaudio |
| 18:42.14 | mnemoc | they the hell do they insist in use that BS?!! |
| 18:42.35 | ZaEarl | arm docs say the mali400 comes in 1 to 4 cores. anyone know for sure how many mali cores are in the allwinner a10? |
| 18:42.55 | mnemoc | 1 |
| 18:43.17 | mnemoc | look at the config in the modules/mali dir of the leak |
| 18:44.01 | ZaEarl | then hopefully the sun6i will boost that to at least 2 mali cores. |
| 18:46.24 | ZaEarl | dualcore corex-a9 with a dualcoe mali would be a great combo |
| 18:46.34 | MaDMaLKaV | mnemoc , with the leak you refer to...? |
| 18:47.05 | traeak | hopefully the mali t6xx series can be quickly covered with the lima driver |
| 18:49.14 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: the the 3.0.8 released by qware or the 3.0-v2 branch in my repo |
| 18:50.07 | MaDMaLKaV | why we call it leaked? these guys complied with the gpl, they sell a device with gpl source and they released the source |
| 18:50.39 | MaDMaLKaV | as their obligation as device seller . |
| 18:50.47 | ZaEarl | it's entirely possible they released too much, but good for them! |
| 18:51.35 | mnemoc | they *did* release code allwinner still believes it's not available to anyone, hidden in the history of the repo |
| 18:52.07 | ZaEarl | it would be much nicer if it was all gpl code, but it's not. |
| 18:52.08 | mnemoc | i.e sun5i (a12 and a13 socs) |
| 18:54.05 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: from my pov a release must come from the copyright owner, which wasn't the case |
| 18:54.19 | traeak | if they use the mali t6xx series and it's different enough that it can't be reversed easily then this won't matter |
| 18:54.20 | traeak | ugh |
| 18:56.11 | ZaEarl | mnemoc, that's not quite right either. a release may come from anyone that the license permits. |
| 18:56.21 | MaDMaLKaV | mnemoc, but it is not that way. the seller of the device have to provide the sources to their customers. the seller get it from factory, and the factory from soc producer. that is the chain of the pain dude. It is not unusual you want to release the sources of a device you sell and the factory says, "eeeh, noooo, ask the soc producer", and viceversa |
| 18:56.23 | MaDMaLKaV | very chinese |
| 18:56.37 | ZaEarl | in the case of gpl code, the copyright owner does not need to be the one to release it. |
| 18:57.27 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: that might be one of the reasons they use at least a dozen different company names |
| 18:57.30 | MaDMaLKaV | anyway, as the seller you are the one responsible of releasing the code, and being gpl code, if you got the factory or the soc producer to give it to you, well, it is everything ok |
| 18:57.36 | MaDMaLKaV | mnemoc, probably |
| 18:57.56 | mnemoc | carrefour sells a10 devices, let's sue them! |
| 18:58.04 | MaDMaLKaV | we had serious pains in the ass with amlogic and the people making tablets with their socs, for example |
| 18:58.33 | MaDMaLKaV | mnemoc, you as consumer can ask for the source and get a refund if it is not provided, but you can't sue for copyright violation |
| 18:59.06 | MaDMaLKaV | and for what I read in the gpl legal mailing list they are always pointing arm soc producers gpl violations but seems like fsf doesn't feel like messing with the chinese or something |
| 18:59.18 | MaDMaLKaV | gonna dinner, bbl |
| 18:59.51 | mnemoc | the gpl enforment is a joke |
| 19:01.10 | mnemoc | in practice there is zero difference if your code is gpl or bsd/mit.... they'll (ab)use it anyway :| |
| 19:07.24 | traeak | i think as long as they don't sell in bulk to the US market.... |
| 19:08.06 | traeak | or EU for that matte |
| 19:09.26 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Henry master * r7986b012afde /allwinner_a10/orders/hcuk94.mdwn: |
| 19:14.42 | nikk_|zzz | that mali stuff drives me mad... |
| 19:19.48 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Ivan master * r0ce5f59a75ea /allwinner_a10/orders/rabbitii.mdwn: |
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| 19:36.21 | nikk_|zzz | heh, i lost my purchased google android app ) now it offer me to purchase it again ) |
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| 20:05.48 | leojrfs | traeak, found the how to i was looking for http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/04/28/how-to-create-your-own-debian-ubuntu-image-for-mele-a1000-allwinner-a10-based-stb/ |
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| 20:13.25 | Gumboot | traeak: RP has a DSP. It's like this, but extended to 32-bit and five times the clock rate: http://web.archive.org/web/20040212211039/http://www.alphamosaic.com/videocore/index.html |
| 20:14.10 | Gumboot | Same principle as things like OMAP, where the DSP was originally core technology but gets surrounded by more and more hardware acceleration until nobody even realises it's there. |
| 20:14.13 | traeak | Gumboot: totallly locked down though |
| 20:14.23 | Gumboot | Yes. |
| 20:14.50 | traeak | leojrfs: yeah that will work |
| 20:14.52 | Gumboot | There used to be screenshots of the debugger, which would be baby steps towards reverse assembling the bootloader, but I can't find those anymore. |
| 20:16.58 | Gumboot | (I say that because it's the first thing I tried to do when I found the company, in preparation for applying for a job there) |
| 20:16.59 | traeak | Gumboot: probably time is better spent with the allwinner a10 than with the rpi |
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| 20:18.09 | Gumboot | Yes, the A10 is kind of like a thing you could hack on and learn stuff about if you were a technically oriented kid. Rather than wasting your time in some high-level language, GUI environment. |
| 20:20.13 | traeak | well, the rpi lets you hack on specific pins and stuff |
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| 20:21.52 | dcarr | Hola! |
| 20:22.06 | dcarr | Anyone here know the internals of the Snowball graphical stack?! |
| 20:25.09 | specing | traeak: If one needs IOs, one does not buy a MPU with only 10 usable |
| 20:30.25 | traeak | specing: i'm not a machine control guy so i wouldn't know |
| 20:30.57 | vgrade | dcarr \0 |
| 20:31.21 | vgrade | we've only just started on the A10 mali stack |
| 20:31.35 | mnemoc | connects over serial or ethernet to daisy chained boards with lots of IOs... |
| 20:32.21 | mnemoc | rs483 sometimes |
| 20:32.57 | vgrade | dcarr, there is a group doing a Tizen bringup on Snowball. |
| 20:33.56 | mnemoc | anyone doing tizen bringup on a10? |
| 20:34.15 | vgrade | mnemoc. not that I know of |
| 20:34.23 | vgrade | mnemoc, Mer here |
| 20:34.58 | traeak | specing: all you are doing is making a case that the only think the rpi has behind it at this point is hype :0p |
| 20:34.59 | vgrade | dcarr, no accell by the looks of http://www.igloocommunity.org/support/Tizen_on_Snowball |
| 20:41.08 | mnemoc | vgrade: so you are from those who want to kick EFL out? |
| 20:43.59 | vgrade | mnemoc, not in the least, with Mer we want to provide a solid set of core packages which people can add an adaptation and a UI of their choosing. |
| 20:44.16 | mnemoc | nice |
| 20:44.21 | lerc | I'd like to give EFL a serous go for something. I like the look of evas/ecore, Not so sure about the edje stuff. |
| 20:45.24 | mnemoc | scripting the UIs with edje/lua is fun^3 |
| 20:45.49 | lerc | getting editje to run wasn't |
| 20:46.10 | mnemoc | is that usable? |
| 20:46.32 | lerc | about 30% so |
| 20:46.47 | mnemoc | better a text editor |
| 20:47.06 | vgrade | Mer is all about providing the freedom to allow Qt, EFL, HTML5 whatever |
| 20:47.45 | mnemoc | vgrade: and runs on the mele already I suppose :) |
| 20:48.29 | vgrade | I'm still to try the latest kernel drop |
| 20:48.30 | lerc | I like the idea of something HTML5 ish but browsers eat ram like crazy. |
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| 20:49.22 | mnemoc | vgrade: please use https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/commits/allwinner-v3.0-android-v2/ |
| 20:49.53 | vgrade | mnemoc, ok. Is that the qware plus other improvements? |
| 20:50.02 | mnemoc | yes |
| 20:50.55 | vgrade | ok , its on the list after the vivaldi kernel |
| 20:51.06 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 20:51.40 | mnemoc | I hope to have a linux-3.3-suxi tree by then |
| 20:52.43 | vgrade | nod |
| 20:53.01 | t0dbld|work | mnemoc: i failed ... Was up to 6am |
| 20:54.12 | mnemoc | I also prefer to work during the nights... but as I'm forced to get up a 7am I can't :< |
| 20:54.45 | t0dbld|work | haha , i jsut dont sleep |
| 20:54.52 | t0dbld|work | off season for me at work |
| 20:54.59 | t0dbld|work | so i work all day here at work |
| 20:55.07 | t0dbld|work | than i end up working all night |
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| 20:59.27 | sepp | hello |
| 21:01.34 | mnemoc | hi sepp |
| 21:01.48 | sepp | hi mnemoc :D |
| 21:09.30 | hno | traeak, I have an u-boot image at http://www.henriknordstrom.net/code/A10/ |
| 21:10.36 | hno | hi hi |
| 21:10.54 | mnemoc | hi hno |
| 21:13.55 | t0dbld|work | hi hno |
| 21:15.41 | hno | is loosing trust in his new fancy DSL router.. IRC has been working flawlessly, but nothing else for the whole day. |
| 21:19.25 | hno | only 500+ mails in queue. |
| 21:19.33 | hno | anything important I have missed? |
| 21:19.46 | t0dbld|work | LOL |
| 21:23.24 | hno | seriously need to find that TP crimping tool to finish network redesign so I can switch it to bridge mode, getting rid of NAT madness. |
| 21:24.00 | hno | it's somewhere in these 4 square meters.. |
| 21:27.29 | hno | oh, an allwinner u-boot bug report. |
| 21:35.49 | dcarr | vgrade: :) |
| 21:35.52 | dcarr | vgrade: Thanks |
| 21:36.55 | hno | and hipboi did fix that SD UART issue. Quite obvious when you see the change. Having multiple pins active for the same input signal is not a good idea. |
| 21:39.21 | zenitraM | just found out that he knows someone who is working on a Mele-like device with an Amlogic A9 and a Mali400 which is going to be released with a major spanish newspaper as their "media distribution" platform |
| 21:59.17 | traeak | amlogic's dsp and such won't ever get out |
| 22:04.38 | mnemoc | zenitraM: get one and try to force elmundo/elpais to release something :p |
| 22:05.36 | hno | traeak, get out where? |
| 22:06.41 | zenitraM | mnemoc: i'll see what I can do. not sure if he's behind any kind of NDA but he seems to have the devkit at work |
| 22:06.42 | zenitraM | http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2012/05/20/comunicacion/1337514489.html |
| 22:07.47 | mnemoc | hno: the page of the new a10 devkit says they provide the sources for the gps module... |
| 22:08.51 | hno | they most likely only mean device driver. |
| 22:09.42 | zenitraM | also, "Ubuntu-10.04" |
| 22:09.48 | zenitraM | that seems allwinner doesn't even have |
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| 22:10.00 | zenitraM | (or hipboi hasn't told us) |
| 22:10.00 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 22:10.29 | hno | zenitraM, there is an ubuntu firmware image somwhere.. |
| 22:11.22 | zenitraM | "official" one? |
| 22:11.46 | mnemoc | it could have become official... |
| 22:11.56 | hno | and the bsp tools we have have all the scripts needed for building a Linux firmware which can be flashed with livesuite. |
| 22:12.30 | hno | zenitraM, define "official" |
| 22:13.25 | zenitraM | hno: as in "production-grade" i suppose, not some random kernel with a ubuntu rootfs copied from somewhere else thrown to it |
| 22:13.40 | hno | there is never something "production grade" in dev kits. |
| 22:13.42 | zenitraM | (there were kernel modules for other non-related SoCs) |
| 22:14.33 | zenitraM | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:19.54 | hno | Chineese maintaining an FAQ.. that would be interesting. |
| 22:24.23 | A0Sheds | trying to get R-Car H1 samples tomorrow http://am.renesas.com/applications/automotive/cis/cis_highend/rcar_h1/index.jsp |
| 22:24.49 | A0Sheds | lets see how much of the register spec will be allowed to be open |
| 22:26.04 | hno | Has no one pushed the allwinner buildroot to github? |
| 22:26.38 | mnemoc | hno: i think not |
| 22:27.27 | zenitraM | i think it was at github.com/allwinner-ics |
| 22:27.46 | zenitraM | yup https://github.com/allwinner-ics/lichee_buildroot/ |
| 22:29.31 | hno | zenitraM, have you tried following the Linux BSP documentation? That supposedly gives some form of Linux image (not android). |
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| 22:30.07 | hno | the document is mostly chineese |
| 22:30.21 | zenitraM | hno: where is that? |
| 22:30.37 | zenitraM | ah Lichee2.6.36_Linux_BSP_User_Manual.doc? |
| 22:30.50 | zenitraM | let's see |
| 22:33.38 | hno | and there is MALI etc in the referenced buildroot. |
| 22:34.33 | zenitraM | mm that document doesn't contain anything useful i thin |
| 22:34.35 | zenitraM | k |
| 22:36.10 | zenitraM | except that it seems that.. the "dragon" tool can be used to make sd card images? |
| 22:36.44 | hno | have not read it in detail. |
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| 22:39.53 | zenitraM | To compile a complete version of the Linux BSP firmware, enter the |
| 22:39.54 | zenitraM | $ cd workdir / lichee |
| 22:39.54 | zenitraM | $. / build.sh-p sun4i |
| 22:39.54 | zenitraM | Already contains the packaging process. The resulting image file |
| 22:39.54 | zenitraM | workdir/lichee/buildroot/tools/pack/out/ePDKv100_nand.img years |
| 22:39.55 | zenitraM | The default package is nand format, if you want packaged into the sd card format, perform the operation: |
| 22:41.03 | Faqtotum | t0dbld|work: do you have the most recent *buntu image you've been testing on mmc boot on the ZaTab uploaded anywhere? |
| 22:41.39 | t0dbld|work | no not at the moment |
| 22:42.11 | Faqtotum | do you have it near you? |
| 22:42.55 | hno | Seems their buildroot do never include xorg. |
| 22:43.26 | hno | ony DIRECTFB. |
| 22:44.28 | Faqtotum | t0dbld|work: it would be much appreciated if you could either dcc it to ZaEarl or post a url |
| 22:45.23 | t0dbld|work | no I only have my gentoo one im working on with me at work today |
| 22:45.35 | t0dbld|work | likely will not be till after the holliday |
| 22:45.55 | zenitraM | hno: their directfb module is patched on top of the vmware directfb module |
| 22:46.07 | zenitraM | and i tried it on the mele and only got one of all of the tests to run |
| 22:50.42 | hno | There seems to be a chineese document explaining the stock bootloader. |
| 22:52.28 | zenitraM | name? |
| 22:53.05 | hno | 固件配置，打包，烧写指南.doc |
| 22:53.58 | hno | including multi-boot OS seletion it seems. |
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