| 00:00.28 | nikk | naobsd true, but it needs some C reading ))) |
| 00:00.59 | naobsd | btw, in Japan digital broadcasting is encrypted even for free programs. I have some USB box to see them on Linux and other free OS |
| 00:01.06 | nikk | I was hacking FM recently. linux console V4L FM apps helps a lot ;) |
| 00:03.02 | naobsd | there are some codes to decrypt are in public, but I can't refer them in any formal place :( |
| 00:04.07 | nikk | now need to port it to 4.0. main problem is for accessing /dev/snd/pcmCxD0c and output in to Android, I need AudioRecord stream, looping to AudioTrack. No direct hw routing. So when FM plays, it's not possible to use another rec source (VoiceSearch for example). |
| 00:04.20 | nikk | naobsd why it's encrypted? |
| 00:04.26 | nikk | it's overhead, no? |
| 00:05.00 | naobsd | we guess someone want to get money |
| 00:05.31 | nikk | on free air? ))) what about ads? you don't have them? |
| 00:05.32 | naobsd | whe digital broadcating system was planned. not sure ;) |
| 00:06.48 | naobsd | well |
| 00:07.26 | nikk | naobsd, my other thougts to improve CM9 is switching from allwinner ril to huaweigeneric one, it supports SMS sending, or even voice, but that part must be coded |
| 00:08.02 | nikk | Huawei modems uses /dev/ttyUSB1 for voice input / output |
| 00:08.32 | nikk | so it must be somehow wrapped to ril / alsa |
| 00:08.35 | naobsd | Terrestrial boardcasting programs are free. TV station insert AD between(or middle of) programs. (no overlayed AD) |
| 00:09.34 | nikk | so, they receive money from advertisers, and must not encrypt that stuff ;-) |
| 00:09.48 | naobsd | Sattelite boardcasting are not free. some card is necessary to decrypt it. mysteriously someone decided to use "some card" for Terrestrial too :( |
| 00:10.05 | lundman | anything new to try on mele today |
| 00:10.23 | nikk | even FM uses in Japan different preemphasis settings ;-) |
| 00:10.47 | lundman | woo japan |
| 00:11.17 | naobsd | we must bought card and card reader... actually they are always bundled in TV. then, omeone who sells "some card" get a lot of money ;) |
| 00:11.57 | nikk | recompiling CM from scratch takes eternity ) |
| 00:12.11 | naobsd | nikk: I'm thinking to try huaweigeneric. |
| 00:12.21 | nikk | naobsd it just works |
| 00:12.30 | nikk | naobsd even receive calls on 2.3 |
| 00:12.37 | nikk | but without sound ;-) |
| 00:12.53 | naobsd | I only have data-only SIM and huawei dongle |
| 00:13.27 | nikk | naobsd as me, but i enabled voice and put there main sim for test. |
| 00:13.46 | naobsd | interesting |
| 00:13.51 | nikk | i was wonder when suddenly i saw my mom on screen (callong me) ))) |
| 00:14.06 | naobsd | lol |
| 00:14.41 | naobsd | tell twitter or irc to your mother! |
| 00:14.52 | nikk | https://github.com/tsynik/huaweigeneric-ril/commit/94f1b417be731e4b630216dd888de7c942c03754 |
| 00:15.08 | nikk | this enable /dev/ttyUSB1 as sound device |
| 00:15.26 | nikk | on huawei 3G cards |
| 00:15.38 | nikk | with voice enabled FW |
| 00:15.40 | naobsd | oh great |
| 00:16.15 | naobsd | I'm not sure about huawei dongles. which one has voice enabled FW? |
| 00:16.28 | nikk | E1550 by hack |
| 00:17.01 | nikk | E173 E169 etc |
| 00:17.45 | nikk | mine was selled as data only. but HW supports voice, and i enabled it |
| 00:17.48 | naobsd | thanks. I can see some pages by google now |
| 00:18.49 | nikk | huaweigeneric sends sms without any hacks, but not supports USSD |
| 00:19.06 | nikk | it's not implemented in code as i understand |
| 00:19.33 | naobsd | I hope some of my dongles have it... my dongles are rebranded |
| 00:20.22 | naobsd | hmm. I just know about DerArtem huaweigeneric-ril but not know detail... |
| 00:20.53 | nikk | i used it on novo7 in 2.3 without any problems. not tested 4.0 yet |
| 00:23.01 | nikk | my interest is big, because i have clone of my main sim ;-) so i can use it on a phone and on tablet, but, i don't want miss calls ;-) |
| 00:23.40 | nikk | and it have unlimited data plan, which i don't use on phone at all ;-) |
| 00:25.46 | naobsd | oh I don't know SIM can be cloned |
| 00:26.21 | nikk | naobsd not any. modern one can't ;-) |
| 00:26.53 | nikk | they have strong encryption, so method of decripting it fails on 10000 operations ... ))) |
| 00:27.04 | naobsd | in Japan pre-3G system was not GSM. we didn't use SIM on non-modern age ;) |
| 00:28.12 | nikk | but it still SIM? |
| 00:28.51 | naobsd | well? |
| 00:29.19 | naobsd | current 3G/4G system are same as global one |
| 00:29.53 | naobsd | band may be different but same system. we're using SIM now |
| 00:30.19 | nikk | thel it's question of chip, not network. you need just IMSI/KI pair |
| 00:30.32 | naobsd | hm |
| 00:30.43 | nikk | to ident in network |
| 00:30.55 | nikk | and that information inside a chip ))) |
| 00:31.00 | naobsd | what I said is we can't make clone SIM because we don't have it physically :) |
| 00:31.06 | nikk | i see |
| 00:31.11 | nikk | so, no way ))) |
| 00:31.12 | naobsd | ah I remembered clone "phone" |
| 00:31.59 | naobsd | probably someone cloned information inside in phone. technically it may be same as clone SIM |
| 00:32.14 | naobsd | not sure about detail |
| 00:34.27 | nikk | i have my sim about 6 years, and cloned it in iPhone 2G era, when it was "not possible" to use it outside US :) |
| 00:34.38 | nikk | and it still works ))) |
| 00:35.54 | nikk | so it's hybrid of my sim and at&t one ))) |
| 00:38.07 | nikk | still waiting CM9 compile |
| 00:38.40 | lundman | naobsd so you are in japan too? |
| 00:38.56 | naobsd | lundman: yes |
| 00:38.58 | nikk | lundman he is, i'm russian ))) |
| 00:39.23 | lundman | nice |
| 00:40.24 | nikk | naobsd don't you know which TARGET_BOOTLOADER_BOARD_NAME := for in CM9? |
| 00:40.44 | nikk | it doesn't used |
| 00:41.27 | naobsd | well |
| 00:42.19 | naobsd | it should be used for ro.product.board in system/build.prop |
| 00:42.27 | naobsd | I used "crane" for it |
| 00:42.31 | lundman | the wife speaks russian, but I'm afraid I dont :) |
| 00:42.52 | nikk | lundman cool ;-) |
| 00:43.06 | nikk | lundman i understand english and spanish also ) |
| 00:43.06 | naobsd | ro.product.board should be used e.g. searching /system/lib/hw/XXX.*.so |
| 00:44.23 | lundman | .se .dk .uk and .jp, but the last one sure is taking a long time to sink in |
| 00:44.48 | nikk | naobsd i see. i try to get idea, how (in which scripts) CM9 decided how to pack boot.img (for example, --base params) |
| 00:45.46 | naobsd | nikk: build/tools/releasetools |
| 00:45.51 | nikk | there is nothing in /device (allwinner specific) about it |
| 00:46.27 | naobsd | you can use own releasetools by adding some line to BoardConfig.mk ... I can't remember now |
| 00:46.53 | nikk | i have some: TARGET_CUSTOM_RELEASETOOL := ./device/allwinner/novo7a/releasetools/squisher |
| 00:48.02 | naobsd | if you just want to use working mkbootimg, you can tweak PATH |
| 00:49.02 | naobsd | I have another device which needs some terrible hack to make boot.img... |
| 00:49.39 | naobsd | it uses kernel which has raw cpio image in it |
| 00:50.24 | nikk | naobsd thats what i'm done. put it to /CM9/bin and add it to path 1st |
| 00:50.28 | naobsd | I need to do cut & paste cpio image to make new kernel with new ramdisk ;) |
| 00:50.49 | nikk | but CM9 seems to add self_mods to path on build phase |
| 00:50.56 | naobsd | oh :( |
| 00:51.22 | naobsd | it seems common.py in releasetools calls mkboot |
| 00:51.23 | naobsd | mkbootimg |
| 00:51.45 | nikk | and, there is nothing in shuisheer about pack params. thats why Quark2K (i guess) uses prebuilded boot.img and put it to update later |
| 00:52.33 | naobsd | I used alternative scripts to make different boot.img for different tablet from single CM9 output |
| 00:53.31 | nikk | naobsd now i just use out directory contents and repack it by hand. but in case public repo things must be automated |
| 00:53.34 | naobsd | "nothing in shuisheer about pack params"? |
| 00:53.48 | nikk | yup. --base not defined there |
| 00:53.48 | Turl | mnemoc: are you around still? |
| 00:54.13 | nikk | naobsd: TARGET_CUSTOM_RELEASETOOL = squisher |
| 00:54.21 | nikk | it packs final image |
| 00:54.25 | nikk | for update |
| 00:54.58 | naobsd | BOARD_KERNEL_{BASE,CMDLINE,PAGESIZE} in BoardConfig.mk should work |
| 00:55.10 | nikk | cd ../device/allwinner/novo7a/ |
| 00:55.10 | nikk | Pro:novo7a nikk$ grep -R "-base" * |
| 00:55.12 | nikk | none |
| 00:55.23 | naobsd | A10 uses standard boot.img format and CM9 can make it |
| 00:55.31 | naobsd | https://github.com/naobsd/cm_device_allwinner_a10/blob/master/BoardConfig.mk |
| 00:55.39 | naobsd | please refer my BoardConfig.mk |
| 00:56.32 | naobsd | Im not sure actually I tried it, but it should work... |
| 00:56.59 | nikk | naobsd: ah, i see now. I dont have BOARD_KERNEL_BASE := 0x40000000 etc |
| 00:57.42 | naobsd | sorry |
| 00:57.48 | naobsd | I'm confusing a little |
| 00:57.57 | naobsd | there are some references in build/core/Makefile |
| 00:58.12 | naobsd | ah |
| 00:58.26 | naobsd | boot.img in output is generated by build/core/Makefile |
| 00:58.39 | naobsd | releasetools is to make update.zip...probably |
| 00:59.28 | naobsd | both must be cared |
| 01:01.04 | naobsd | I'm sure defs in BoardConfig.mk is used in build/core/Makefile |
| 01:01.22 | naobsd | I'm checking releasetools now... |
| 01:01.40 | nikk | it just pack / signs release images |
| 01:03.43 | nikk | nice thing the only prebuilt part now Mali EGL |
| 01:03.53 | nikk | all other builded from source |
| 01:04.34 | naobsd | I'm sure it's for make otapackage but I didn't check detail |
| 01:07.10 | nikk | what is CWM UMS function? |
| 01:07.52 | Turl | nikk: USB Mass Storage |
| 01:08.21 | lundman | so do we have something we can install and try, or are we all individually all building the same kernels? |
| 01:08.44 | naobsd | hmm, original releasetool should use boot.img built by "make". mkbootimg should not be used in normal case e.g. "make otapackage" from scratch |
| 01:08.58 | nikk | i have only BOARD_HAS_SDCARD_INTERNAL := true, so added yourth BOARD_UMS_LUNFILE ... |
| 01:09.00 | naobsd | then defs in Board.Config.mk should work |
| 01:09.18 | nikk | ok |
| 01:09.26 | nikk | i'll check on 2nd build |
| 01:09.29 | naobsd | nikk: "mount USB storage" in mount menu |
| 01:10.09 | nikk | never used CM before, i'll learn it ;-) |
| 01:10.40 | nikk | lundman which platform / device? |
| 01:10.44 | naobsd | nikk: i guess no A10 device has internal SD card |
| 01:10.54 | lundman | i have a mele a200 and cubox |
| 01:10.59 | lundman | +0 |
| 01:11.14 | nikk | naobsd nand is external sd, sd = external storage |
| 01:11.30 | nikk | nandi = internal sd |
| 01:11.56 | naobsd | as far as I know BOARD_HAS_SDCARD_INTERNAL enables "Partition Internal SD Card" menu |
| 01:12.17 | nikk | yup, i can format my nandi, 4 sure ;-) |
| 01:12.25 | naobsd | nikk: nandi is not physical SD card. partitioning is not necessary and stock doesn't make partition on it |
| 01:12.30 | nikk | via Storage section |
| 01:12.54 | lundman | although, cubox/xbmc only barely runs 1080p video, so it would be interesting to see how A10 does xbmc |
| 01:13.07 | nikk | naobsd so, it's better disable it? |
| 01:13.09 | lundman | the android 4 beta is almost usable |
| 01:13.24 | nikk | lundman CM9 fine also ;-) |
| 01:13.47 | naobsd | nikk: I didn't think it's necessary so I didn't define it. I'm not sure other's mind ;) |
| 01:15.11 | lundman | CM9? |
| 01:15.25 | lundman | is CM9 something I should try? |
| 01:15.53 | nikk | naobsd: hm, no defines of GPS, but it's in Settings menu, and even with external option |
| 01:15.58 | naobsd | nikk: BOARD_UMS_LUNFILE is necessary because default definition in CWM is for 2.6.x kernel |
| 01:16.16 | nikk | i see. added |
| 01:16.55 | naobsd | my patch need to be merged if you want to use BOARD_UMS_2ND_LUNFILE |
| 01:17.36 | naobsd | my patch is necessary if you want to export nandi in addition to external SD card on CWM |
| 01:17.47 | nikk | which one? |
| 01:19.04 | naobsd | nikk: https://github.com/naobsd/cm_bootable_recovery/compare/ics...ics-naobsd |
| 01:19.28 | naobsd | nikk: recommend 2ND_LUNFILE and .android_secure |
| 01:19.35 | naobsd | patches |
| 01:20.39 | naobsd | please read commit log especially for 2ND_LUNFILE. it changes how device2 is handled on UMS function |
| 01:21.25 | naobsd | this change is not only for A10 so I'll keep them even if I remove obsolete a10 device tree |
| 01:22.48 | nikk | wow, and it doesn't need any old definitions to handle usb storages by vold as it was in allwinners 2.3? |
| 01:23.05 | nikk | in 4.0 many things changed |
| 01:23.07 | naobsd | .android_secure on nandi is used by stock rom but it is not handled by CWM so I made .android_secure patch |
| 01:23.10 | naobsd | well |
| 01:23.18 | naobsd | I'm talking about CWM recovery |
| 01:23.28 | naobsd | things are different on Android |
| 01:23.40 | nikk | i used youth cwm_recovery |
| 01:23.47 | nikk | not CM builded one |
| 01:23.52 | naobsd | well "USB storage"? |
| 01:24.22 | naobsd | "mount USB storage" is for mounting internal NAND(nandi) and external SD card mounted on tablet from PC |
| 01:24.37 | nikk | handle external filesystems as media data. now its all in cm9 storage section |
| 01:24.54 | naobsd | sorry, confusing |
| 01:25.22 | naobsd | 1. about "mount USB storage" on CWM, it's for mounting internal NAND(nandi) and external SD card mounted on tablet from PC |
| 01:26.08 | nikk | i see, i mean "when I plug USB flash, will it be available as source of media in OS" |
| 01:26.17 | naobsd | 2. 2ND_LUNFILE patch is necessary for 1. |
| 01:26.57 | naobsd | nikk: probably I tried it on my CM9 build. it should work, but my changes are not for it |
| 01:27.42 | nikk | i used 20th times /emmc in recovery today ) just restored tabled after unsuccessfull nandc write ;-) |
| 01:28.06 | nikk | without cwm, i need to reflash and it'll take weeks ;-) |
| 01:28.11 | naobsd | 3. stock rom uses internal NAND(nandi) as SD card. .android_secure for app2sd feature is created on internal NAND. CWM doesn't handle it unless nandi is mounted as /sdcard |
| 01:28.47 | nikk | and it was handled by vold before in 2.3 |
| 01:28.54 | naobsd | 4. my CWM for A10 doesn't make backup of .android_secure on internal NAND. |
| 01:29.48 | naobsd | 5. my .android_secure patch will handle .android_secure on internal NAND, but I never build new CWM with it ;) |
| 01:30.11 | nikk | heh ;-) |
| 01:30.21 | naobsd | nikk: sorry, "my changes are not for it" is wrong in some parts |
| 01:30.30 | nikk | i don't use app2sd at all ) 1gb is enough ;-) |
| 01:30.31 | naobsd | I added some lines to use USB disk on tablet |
| 01:31.23 | naobsd | e.g. "dev_mount usb /mnt/usb ..." line in vold.fstab. vold must know about it to mount USB disk |
| 01:31.32 | nikk | as i uderstand, it must be some vold. yup |
| 01:31.55 | naobsd | and overlay/frameworks/base/core/res/res/xml/storage_list.xml |
| 01:32.20 | nikk | it's already there, but don't test it yet |
| 01:32.34 | nikk | probably it doesn't work yet |
| 01:32.42 | naobsd | if you can see USB storage on settings on android, it's working |
| 01:32.49 | naobsd | storage_list.xml is working |
| 01:32.51 | nikk | need to compare with allwinners 4.0.3 source |
| 01:33.36 | naobsd | I'm sorry I'm not sure about quarx's CM9 and allwinner 4.0.3 yet :( |
| 01:33.37 | nikk | naobsd i see it there, even with media checkbox. but something wrong with vold/mounting |
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| 01:34.19 | nikk | 1st i need wifi, to switch on adb console, and it's almost there ;-) few hours of compile ;-) |
| 01:34.35 | naobsd | I think quarx uses(refered) some of my files, but not all. so I need to investigate my memory is correct for his CM9 :( |
| 01:35.08 | naobsd | I don't have enough time for it :( |
| 01:35.32 | nikk | naobsd as we have source, all will be fine ;-) |
| 01:36.05 | naobsd | yup. my memory and source is obsolete :) |
| 01:36.26 | nikk | your memory and source is perfect ))) |
| 01:36.41 | naobsd | and you are not alone... oops |
| 01:37.05 | naobsd | I wanted to say you are not alone so I can forget my memory now |
| 01:37.39 | nikk | yup ) thanks! |
| 01:38.44 | nikk | realy, it saves me a day, crazy mkibootimg, binary-bitch ))) |
| 01:39.29 | nikk | without cwm and your suggestions, there were no progress at all, and now i have working system with wi-fi |
| 01:39.34 | naobsd | I need to clean my memory and start to read source :) |
| 01:40.22 | naobsd | actually I feel a bit of "I wated my time w/o source" but it was very fun |
| 01:41.14 | nikk | yup. i was playing with closed-source wits, hacking u-boot, patching it in HEX, and got auto-boot with logo ) |
| 01:41.15 | naobsd | aah I wanted to remove command line like "echo -n boot-recovery | busybox dd of=/dev/block/nandf count=1 conv=sync; sync" |
| 01:41.29 | naobsd | from the world ;) |
| 01:41.55 | naobsd | I was lazy to make .c file ;) |
| 01:42.45 | naobsd | I have similar .c for Advent Vega clone but I was really lazy, I just put command line which was tested via adb shell ;) |
| 01:42.47 | nikk | naobsd there is some new erasemisc stuff in quark repo, is it for recovery? |
| 01:42.48 | nikk | https://github.com/Quarx2k/android_device_a10/blob/master/prebuilt/bin/erase_misc.sh |
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| 01:43.31 | naobsd | misc partition need to be erased when recovery is booted. I did it in init.rc in recovery and he made script from it |
| 01:44.07 | nikk | yeah, it in init also |
| 01:44.09 | naobsd | https://github.com/naobsd/cm_device_allwinner_a10/blob/master/recovery_init.rc see "service erase_misc" line ;) |
| 01:44.18 | naobsd | again: I'm lazy :) |
| 01:45.34 | nikk | if it works = it's gooood :) |
| 01:45.46 | naobsd | ah, recently CWM erase misc partition other than MTD. if you add about misc parititon to recovery.fstab, explicit erase command may not be needed anymore in CWM. |
| 01:46.19 | naobsd | only MTD misc was erased |
| 01:47.31 | naobsd | and now we have allwinner source. reboot command and recovery should handle it. |
| 01:48.32 | naobsd | and on CM9 there is TARGET_RECOVERY_PRE_COMMAND |
| 01:51.02 | naobsd | command to write recovery command to misc can be called with it... hmm I explained about it to someone... |
| 01:51.25 | naobsd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26250569&postcount=584 |
| 01:52.13 | naobsd | http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26251845&postcount=586 |
| 01:52.47 | DonkeyHotei | t0dbld|work: i scrolled up and saw you mentioned rewriting the boot; so, there's progress? |
| 01:53.23 | t0dbld|work | ? |
| 01:53.25 | t0dbld|work | lol re read |
| 01:54.09 | naobsd | I'll leave soon |
| 01:54.59 | DonkeyHotei | t0dbld|work: sorry, my eyes aren't 100% i've been watching the solar eclipse out the window |
| 01:55.09 | t0dbld|work | hah np |
| 01:55.19 | t0dbld|work | made good progress |
| 01:55.23 | t0dbld|work | but got a ways to go :-) |
| 01:57.03 | DonkeyHotei | define "good" |
| 01:58.01 | Turl | naobsd: you can also do it this way https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/android_device_allwinner_common/commit/f8e5ed1d09aeb29baac088c04246f3e44ae858df |
| 01:58.23 | nikk | naobsd: have a nice day! |
| 01:58.31 | nikk | sleeeep |
| 01:58.54 | t0dbld|work | good=I have got more than you working :-) |
| 02:00.07 | DonkeyHotei | that much i gathered; what what i wanted to know was what |
| 02:01.41 | t0dbld|work | gentoo, ubuntu, debian |
| 02:01.59 | naobsd | turl: oh I didn't know allwinner-dev-team! there are a lot of repo that I need to check ;) anyway, thanks. quarx named it as erase_misc.sh |
| 02:02.08 | DonkeyHotei | i mean regarding the boot process |
| 02:02.29 | DonkeyHotei | did you get interactive access to uboot? |
| 02:02.35 | naobsd | cya |
| 02:02.42 | t0dbld|work | DonkeyHotei: just reread waht you obviously started to so i dont have to rehash a 45 min conversation 5 of us had :-) |
| 02:02.51 | t0dbld|work | no offense but i would like to keep working |
| 02:02.55 | t0dbld|work | i got 58 mintues left |
| 02:02.57 | t0dbld|work | :-) |
| 02:02.58 | DonkeyHotei | sorry |
| 02:03.20 | DonkeyHotei | i'll just continue to assume it's all been from sd for now |
| 02:03.59 | t0dbld|work | sorry reading is a hassle for you |
| 02:04.38 | DonkeyHotei | i'll read it |
| 02:05.11 | DonkeyHotei | but i thought maybe there might have been even newer developments since it was typed |
| 02:05.40 | t0dbld|work | it doesnt matter to me what you do.... others went to bed and it was simply a dissusion about future plans |
| 02:05.49 | t0dbld|work | and everyones opinions on such |
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| 02:29.19 | lundman | i should read that |
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| 02:54.56 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Jean-Luc_Aufranc master * r169fb1e48c0c /source_code.mdwn: Fixed links |
| 02:55.28 | DonkeyHotei | t0dbld|work: i reread it and my questions still stand |
| 02:57.36 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Jean-Luc_Aufranc master * r5e1ba0b6e6bc /allwinner_a10.mdwn: |
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| 03:41.57 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Jean-Luc_Aufranc master * r15e6f7e712e1 /allwinner_a10.mdwn: Power consumption |
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| 05:49.02 | nikk | Turl did you try compile CM9? |
| 07:05.27 | mnemoc | Turl: pong |
| 07:31.44 | Mazon | last status update was back in march - nothing new on http://rhombus-tech.net ? |
| 07:40.23 | mnemoc | Mazon: luke said yesterday we will have news in 7-10 days |
| 07:43.14 | Mazon | oki |
| 07:43.23 | Mazon | thanks :) |
| 07:49.55 | lundman | yay |
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| 09:07.09 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r12b73185005a /: Merge branch 'master' of ssh://git.hands.com/rhombus |
| 09:07.20 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * refec7e2043fb / (allwinner_a10/source_code.mdwn source_code.mdwn): move source code page for a10 to allwinner_a10 directory |
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| 09:46.23 | Mazon | pardon my ignorance, but wouldn't it be possible to work with http://www.olimex.com/dev/a13-olinuxino.html - hardware and software wise? |
| 09:51.48 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: David master * r1e4b1a7fd774 /allwinner_a10/orders/BarryK.mdwn: |
| 09:55.31 | mnemoc | Mazon: sure, once it exists |
| 09:59.51 | mnemoc | Mazon: but olinuxino and eoma68 have VERY different targets, eoma68 aims at standarized and user replaceable core boards while olinuxino aims at hackers and people wanting something cheap but powerful where to connect GPIOs (arduino-like) and run linux |
| 10:01.09 | mnemoc | hopefully both will be very succesful |
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| 10:29.50 | mnemoc | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEwNDU |
| 10:30.56 | mnemoc | ibot: it would be nice if you would say the titles of the pasted urls :) |
| 10:30.56 | ibot | So we want to be stupid, right, would be nice if you would say the titles of the pasted urls :) ? Fine, pushups, right now. OK, side straddle hops, right now. OK, run in place, right now. I didn't say stop! |
| 10:31.23 | mnemoc | :) |
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| 10:59.02 | Turl | hahaha |
| 10:59.32 | Turl | mnemoc: ping |
| 11:01.50 | Turl | mnemoc: https://github.com/allwinner-dev-team/linux-allwinner/commit/eab6418ccff96ca9e1c9b3f5158383abdc30e7a0.patch |
| 11:03.30 | mnemoc | wth, that hdmi a10 dongle even got an article on the blog of my bank! |
| 11:03.44 | Turl | o.O |
| 11:05.31 | mnemoc | wonders why he never noticed that error... |
| 11:05.36 | Turl | btw mnemoc, after patching the regulator stuff, I was told dvfs now lets the device boot :) |
| 11:05.45 | Turl | mnemoc: because you didn't disable MII :P |
| 11:05.53 | mnemoc | ^^ |
| 11:09.14 | mnemoc | Turl: done |
| 11:09.31 | Turl | thanks |
| 11:10.06 | Turl | mnemoc: once I get my hardware (later today hopefully :D) I'll finish my defconfig and let you know |
| 11:11.29 | mnemoc | ideally sun4i_defconfig should enable (as m) everything needed for any sun4i device |
| 11:13.57 | Turl | mnemoc: yeah but dealing with modules is a pain in the neck :) |
| 11:14.09 | Turl | esp. on android |
| 11:14.37 | mnemoc | sun4i_crane_defconfig seems to be intended for android |
| 11:14.59 | Turl | mnemoc: isn't crane the ainol tab? |
| 11:15.32 | mnemoc | i think it's allwinner's devkit |
| 11:16.58 | mnemoc | but even if not, we can still draw that line |
| 11:17.48 | mnemoc | from origin one is more linux/minimalistic and the other more android-ish |
| 11:21.31 | Turl | sun4i had android stuff turned on though |
| 11:21.44 | Turl | I think I saw binder, lmk and ramconsole |
| 11:21.46 | mnemoc | but minimal |
| 11:21.55 | mnemoc | didn't come with ashmem for example |
| 11:25.48 | mnemoc | and not even cpufreq |
| 11:26.31 | mnemoc | neither usb gadget |
| 11:29.10 | Turl | hm just noticed the kernel lacks the android gadget |
| 11:31.20 | mnemoc | see? sun4i_crane is more androidish |
| 11:31.35 | mnemoc | also their build scripts use sun4i_crane |
| 11:32.02 | mnemoc | same scripts that get mkbootimg into play |
| 11:32.47 | Turl | mnemoc: I meant the actual code |
| 11:32.53 | Turl | there's no android gadget on the code :) |
| 11:32.54 | mnemoc | ?? |
| 11:33.11 | mnemoc | of course there is... it was a pain in the butt to merge |
| 11:33.26 | Turl | hm |
| 11:33.31 | Turl | menuconfig isn't showing it |
| 11:33.31 | Turl | weird |
| 11:33.37 | mnemoc | deps |
| 11:34.12 | mnemoc | $ git diff origin/upstream-android-3.0.. drivers/usb/gadget/ | lsdiff | wc -l |
| 11:34.16 | mnemoc | 11 |
| 11:34.21 | Turl | it depends on CONFIG_SWITCH |
| 11:34.34 | mnemoc | but that isn't enough to make it appear |
| 11:35.21 | mnemoc | after like half an hour I gave up and use sun4i_crane_defconfig to see the bug report compiling android.c |
| 11:36.17 | mnemoc | and I had missed a } when merging :< |
| 11:36.45 | mnemoc | the original code had commented out everything not interesting to allwinner |
| 11:36.57 | mnemoc | which wasn't quite good for us |
| 11:36.58 | Turl | mnemoc: http://i.imgur.com/hxpK1.png |
| 11:37.13 | mnemoc | :o |
| 11:37.27 | Turl | you actually need to mark it *, it doesn't show if you use M |
| 11:38.22 | mnemoc | that may have been. I actually only did grep+vi+oldconfig a couple of times |
| 11:38.54 | Turl | I was told editing configs by hand was a bad practise |
| 11:39.16 | mnemoc | maybe.... but that menu is annoying |
| 11:39.31 | Turl | not so much when you use / |
| 11:39.45 | mnemoc | / in vi works even better :p |
| 11:40.20 | mnemoc | but you are right, the menu is more effective because it also know what is disabled |
| 11:40.39 | mnemoc | if deps are not met .config doesn't say a word about those |
| 11:40.52 | Turl | and with / you can see the deps and its status too |
| 11:41.03 | Turl | it just needs a 'jump to config' option to be perfect |
| 11:42.35 | mnemoc | yes |
| 11:42.43 | mnemoc | that's the annoying part |
| 11:43.06 | Turl | maybe xconfig is better |
| 11:43.13 | Turl | I need to give it a try some day |
| 12:10.10 | mnemoc | Turl: is the tablet you are working on a new manufacturing or rebranded with open intentions? |
| 12:11.35 | Turl | you'd need to ask ZaEarl |
| 12:11.44 | Turl | but I believe is 2) |
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| 14:49.07 | DonkeyHotei | mnemoc: so how does this armsoc video driver affect the lima project? and how did olimex get hdmi onto the a13? |
| 14:50.18 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: David master * r419aa356e2af /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: |
| 14:51.37 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: 1) I don't know, 2) dvi in hdmi connector, using a chromtel chip to convert the lcd output |
| 14:52.29 | mnemoc | to be "real" hdmi (dvi+audio) a $10k license needs to be paid |
| 14:52.43 | traeak | that's brutal |
| 14:52.51 | traeak | rpi had to pay that 10k license ? |
| 14:53.22 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: #lima can answer you the first question, please repeat here the answer you get :) |
| 14:53.43 | mnemoc | traeak: don't know |
| 14:54.31 | traeak | so whatever olimex did allowed them to use an hdmi connector but not have to pay the license fee ? |
| 14:54.55 | mnemoc | they'll use http://www.chrontel.com/products/7009.htm |
| 14:55.14 | mnemoc | without audio it's not hdmi, and so no license to be paid |
| 14:55.23 | mnemoc | even if the connector is the same |
| 14:55.53 | traeak | ahh okay |
| 14:56.19 | DonkeyHotei | you know the audio in hdmi is just iec958, right? |
| 14:56.21 | traeak | hmm...you might think using an a10 chip with native hdmi might be cheaper than using a13 + another chip |
| 14:56.51 | traeak | licensing fees are a bigger deal than the stupid technology |
| 14:58.18 | traeak | or lame assed patents |
| 14:59.12 | traeak | that lame 15USD extortion fee paid by android phone vendors to MS must be destroyed |
| 14:59.33 | mnemoc | I don't find sense in adding hdmi to the a13 when they also plan to build a10-based boards |
| 15:00.16 | mnemoc | motorola is been banned from usa because a MS patent to add entries to a calendar from a mobile device |
| 15:00.18 | traeak | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEwNDU |
| 15:00.22 | traeak | looks like new "toys" |
| 15:01.04 | DonkeyHotei | mnemoc: you have an a10 link? |
| 15:01.14 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: none yet |
| 15:01.36 | mnemoc | DonkeyHotei: but if you look at the picture on their blog post they have both chips |
| 15:01.40 | mnemoc | A10 and A13 |
| 15:02.27 | mnemoc | I'm not so sure this xf86-video-armsoc will do 3D |
| 15:04.07 | traeak | even just getting a "stable" armsoc fbdev package into xorg itself would be nice though |
| 15:04.35 | mnemoc | yes |
| 15:05.05 | DonkeyHotei | #lima said it was FB-only |
| 15:05.24 | traeak | for example, jagged alliance 2 linux port compiles with no complaints, all it needs is SDL to run |
| 15:05.36 | traeak | DonkeyHotei: you didn't read the phoronix page? :-p |
| 15:06.07 | DonkeyHotei | i did, but i did not see mention of that |
| 15:06.45 | traeak | as far as i can see the lima guys are totally deep into reverse engineering the shaders at this moment |
| 15:07.08 | traeak | i have no clue how far they've gotten if anywhere at all on the integration side |
| 15:07.54 | traeak | btw, a car going ~70kph hitting a bicyclist going ~45kph head on isn't very pretty |
| 15:09.20 | traeak | my assumption is the lima guys *could* leverage this driver and build the lima specific stuff on top, implementing their own DRM and probably integrating with mesa or something |
| 15:12.38 | traeak | the *other* fun which the raspberry pi also has, is how to leverage opengles for 2d acceleration of some xorg server operations |
| 15:32.07 | Turl | woot woot |
| 15:32.15 | Turl | guess who has an allwinner a10 now :D |
| 15:32.32 | mnemoc | mele or tablet? |
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| 15:51.54 | steev_ | wth is armsoc |
| 15:53.09 | mnemoc | a "universal" mali xorg driver from arm/linaro |
| 15:53.19 | steev_ | where universal appears to be omap |
| 15:53.32 | mnemoc | they forked omap's |
| 15:53.39 | mnemoc | to make it mali's |
| 15:55.11 | steev_ | i'll believe it when i see it (sorry, based on my experience, there's no such thing as universal due to every vendor's "secret sauce") |
| 15:56.03 | steev_ | i watch the freedreno stuff and think, damn i wish that would work on the imageon chip, which is the adreno pre-qualcomm purchase. |
| 15:56.16 | mnemoc | :) |
| 15:56.21 | steev_ | sadly, i can't work on it since i have access to the imageon sources |
| 15:56.32 | mnemoc | meh |
| 15:56.34 | steev_ | i can't even comment, just watch |
| 15:56.56 | steev_ | in the US, apparently NDAs are srs bsns |
| 15:57.40 | steev_ | though we did have one company send us an NDA for some wifi sources, and we were like, uh, no, we're not signing an NDA for open source software |
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| 16:50.49 | Turl | hm, is there any trick to make boot.imgs for a10? |
| 16:52.43 | zenitraM | standard boot.imgs should work |
| 16:52.43 | zenitraM | if basing on a 4.0 firmware |
| 16:52.43 | zenitraM | tablets with 2.3 just load the kernel |
| 16:54.37 | Turl | yeah 4.0 firmware |
| 16:54.50 | Turl | but my screen is just backlit |
| 16:54.52 | Turl | nothing shows up |
| 17:01.16 | zenitraM | if the screen is backlit then that means it has booted |
| 17:01.25 | zenitraM | as it has loaded the disp/lcd modules |
| 17:01.40 | Turl | yeah but USB doesn't respond either :P |
| 17:01.53 | Turl | hm restored stock kernel and it's failing still |
| 17:04.20 | Turl | hm somehow all my filesystems got hugely corrupt |
| 17:04.21 | Turl | o.O |
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| 18:08.42 | Turl | mnemoc: have you been able to build a working boot.img? |
| 18:09.29 | traeak | uImage ? |
| 18:09.43 | Turl | android boot image |
| 18:09.45 | mnemoc | Turl: I don't do android |
| 18:10.05 | nikk | Turl what's the problem? |
| 18:10.27 | Turl | nikk: it doesn't boot |
| 18:10.34 | nikk | Turl yup. CM one |
| 18:10.53 | nikk | Turl but you can repack quarck's one with your kernel |
| 18:11.01 | nikk | and it will boot |
| 18:11.10 | nikk | that's what i'm done |
| 18:12.54 | nikk | Turl in my case (mac os x) problem in CM9 mkbootimg binary and params. I replaced it (mkbootimg) with working one from 4.0.3 source, and use for making ramdisk |
| 18:14.28 | Turl | well repackaging is even worse, the screen doesn't even clear :P |
| 18:15.10 | traeak | hehe, who really cares about android? :-p |
| 18:15.41 | Turl | traeak: I do, I bought a tablet to use it :) |
| 18:16.03 | nikk | Turl that's what was with my boot.img too yesterday ;P this one with 3.0.31 (CM9) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2258618/NOVO7A/new-boot.img |
| 18:16.28 | Turl | nikk: what do you repackage it with, zImage right? |
| 18:16.43 | traeak | i forget about tablets, yeah that makes sense |
| 18:16.44 | nikk | bImage, biggest one |
| 18:17.38 | nikk | Turl it must be uncompressed i think |
| 18:17.49 | mnemoc | hno: that last mail will get a wiki-it attack :p |
| 18:18.52 | nikk | Turl but i want to note, with CM9 mkbootimg binary repacked boot.img doesn't cleared screen too ;-) |
| 18:20.01 | nikk | i dunno whats the proble. the same source with same params but with binary from 4.0.3 always making proper one |
| 18:20.28 | nikk | Turl try to unpack working one, and repack without any mods. |
| 18:20.47 | nikk | Turl that's the test you need to pass |
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| 18:22.04 | nikk | and don't turn on fb console - it doesn't work yet ) |
| 18:22.35 | mnemoc | s/doesn't work yet/will kill your pets/ |
| 18:22.57 | nikk | ))) |
| 18:23.24 | DonkeyHotei | :( |
| 18:24.30 | mnemoc | the disp driver is the ugliest part of the sunxi kernels |
| 18:24.42 | nikk | mnemoc i saw black to white LCD transformation, as it was on the tablet after power on on -30 degrees ;-) |
| 18:24.54 | nikk | i thougt it's burning ) |
| 18:25.09 | Turl | nikk: unpack-repack your image works |
| 18:25.13 | mnemoc | doh |
| 18:25.25 | nikk | Turl so you can make yourth ) |
| 18:26.00 | nikk | just modify kernel and ramdisk as you want |
| 18:26.49 | nikk | kernel must be bImage (about ~8mb one) |
| 18:26.54 | Turl | modified with my bImage and it doesn't boot :P |
| 18:27.32 | nikk | probably something with config. try start with crane_defconfig, and add options by little |
| 18:27.46 | Turl | nikk: do you have your config handy? |
| 18:28.10 | nikk | not yet. i'm stuck on bulding CM9, it takes tooo long |
| 18:28.29 | Turl | your kernel config I mean |
| 18:29.06 | nikk | i understand. i have unmodified one from original 4.0.3 for my tab |
| 18:29.15 | nikk | but not tested it yet |
| 18:30.41 | nikk | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2258618/NOVO7A/sun4i_sky_defconfig |
| 18:31.09 | nikk | for 2.6, i have working one with pl2303 usb-audio enabled etc. |
| 18:36.56 | nikk | Turl: I have an idea to make bootable from SD-card CM9 version, so anyone can test it without flashing nand. |
| 18:37.27 | mnemoc | Turl: can https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/23 be closed? |
| 18:39.09 | Turl | mnemoc: I believe so, that's how I fixed my build when I got that error the other day |
| 18:39.25 | Turl | idk if the driver breaks though, I don't use it |
| 18:39.42 | nikk | mnemoc i had another issue with that modules dir on compile, something about cp -f xxxx -rf and command line options for cp under os x. just deleted ) |
| 18:40.08 | mnemoc | o_O |
| 18:40.19 | mnemoc | would just git rm -rf modules/ |
| 18:40.57 | nikk | please, leave nanowifi there, i can't find any other source ;-) |
| 18:41.03 | mnemoc | :) |
| 18:41.24 | Turl | and mali of course |
| 18:41.25 | Turl | :P |
| 18:41.56 | mnemoc | I assume the same happens with the other ugly drivers, that's why I kept them.... but still not very willing to start fixing out of boudnary errors there :| |
| 18:42.19 | mnemoc | specially without a way to test if the "fixed" version actually works |
| 18:42.38 | nikk | just leave it alone, as it's not a part of kernel, anyone will fix it if he need it ;-) |
| 18:42.44 | mnemoc | :) |
| 18:45.48 | nikk | Turl did you compiled CM9? |
| 18:46.43 | Turl | nikk: I'm trying to get a working kernel config first |
| 18:48.01 | nikk | Turl I have working tree, but with camera libs disabled. It causes errors on compile external libs like expat under os x. |
| 18:48.20 | nikk | Turl just use crane_defconfig. it works ) |
| 18:48.52 | Turl | so bImage is just "Image" |
| 18:49.51 | mnemoc | iirc it's less than Image.... iirc they use objdump to take the header out |
| 18:50.00 | nikk | I always taked bImage from output (yup). |
| 18:50.50 | Turl | mnemoc: http://paste.debian.net/170476/ |
| 18:51.17 | nikk | Turl enabling /proc/config.gz will be handy for others ;-) |
| 18:51.24 | mnemoc | ah, ok |
| 18:51.39 | Turl | nikk: indeed |
| 18:52.58 | Turl | mnemoc: I bet it's the android gadget that's killing my kernel build |
| 18:53.14 | mnemoc | ? |
| 18:53.42 | nikk | Turl, i heard it have issues with CM9. |
| 18:53.48 | mnemoc | try with -j1 and show me the log please |
| 18:54.06 | nikk | but it's a prolem of CM9 ;-) |
| 18:54.11 | Turl | mnemoc: it builds fine |
| 18:54.17 | Turl | but my bet is that it doesn't work fine :) |
| 18:54.20 | mnemoc | o_o |
| 18:55.05 | nikk | i don't understand that driver. in case usb audio part for example. |
| 18:55.31 | nikk | do i still need usb-audio support enabled. or that gadget driver handle it in android? |
| 18:56.04 | nikk | it's new, so not so many information available |
| 18:56.30 | nikk | how it provides driver to userspace? |
| 18:57.05 | nikk | does it handle usb events instead udev/init? ))) |
| 18:57.41 | mnemoc | i'm not familiar with that subsystem, but it provides interfaces to userspace (specially adbd) |
| 18:58.42 | nikk | and usb audio. i was patching android HAL before, just to access /dev/snd/pcmC2D0p, hope things changed in 4.0 |
| 19:03.43 | nikk | Turl no, it's not a gadget. As i remember, I enabled it by default, and my kernel boots :P |
| 19:04.12 | Turl | yeah it wasn't that :/ |
| 19:04.30 | Turl | I'm checking older known working config with reflog |
| 19:05.03 | nikk | Turl do you know how that gadget works? |
| 19:05.48 | Turl | I didn't look at it much, but it does compositing as far as I know |
| 19:05.58 | Turl | (rndis, ums, adb, mtp, etc) |
| 19:06.00 | nikk | I heard things changed and new devices can handle external audio cards, dacs, headphone amplifiers in 4.0 |
| 19:06.11 | nikk | so it must be it |
| 19:06.17 | Turl | that's with USB OTG |
| 19:06.24 | Turl | I believe OTG isn't handled by gadgets |
| 19:06.35 | Turl | gadget is for client mode I think |
| 19:08.13 | nikk | system must understand new usb periferals somehow. so, when you plug audio, gps, arduino etc, android will anounced and handle it, as i understand |
| 19:10.31 | mnemoc | /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug maybe? |
| 19:11.31 | mnemoc | or /sys/kernel/uevent_helper |
| 19:12.14 | nikk | it provides info to android |
| 19:12.36 | mnemoc | but they do use those or something androidish? |
| 19:12.39 | nikk | mnemoc kernel part is clear. but, system (java) is another side |
| 19:13.11 | mnemoc | is there is usb-connected "intend"? |
| 19:13.45 | nikk | and it must handle all linux (hardware) part also. I have driver, it's initialized, set devices in /dev/snd/xx but android don't know about it |
| 19:15.07 | nikk | and only way to provide usb devices to android, it's something like usb accessory api |
| 19:15.18 | mnemoc | an NDK app "registering" them? |
| 19:15.34 | mnemoc | those can see both worlds, right? |
| 19:15.43 | nikk | i'm not familiar with all the logic yet. |
| 19:16.37 | mnemoc | neither I am :) |
| 19:16.40 | nikk | so, i think gadget driver is something all about it ;-) |
| 19:16.55 | nikk | i'll tell you in 1-2 week more ))) |
| 19:17.04 | nikk | when i set it all up ;-) |
| 19:17.32 | mnemoc | ^^ |
| 19:32.48 | hno | mnemoc, the mail confirming that the wiki is right? |
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| 19:36.57 | hno | This "Robert" is seriously reversing the A1000. |
| 19:39.54 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: hno master * r7c68a2ce8f7d /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: Added test points info. |
| 19:41.05 | mnemoc | hno: yeah |
| 19:53.35 | hno | now... why do the mele have test points for the PE block? (TS0 / CSI0) |
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| 19:54.11 | nikk | heh mele quite chick ))) |
| 19:55.17 | hno | nikk ? |
| 19:56.12 | nikk | i mean all options inside and many people hack it now ) |
| 19:57.04 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: hno master * r067ddc68f74a /allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000.mdwn: |
| 19:57.09 | nikk | i have a question about mmc-boot. followed that guide: http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_mmc_boot. made mmc card. but on my tablet (ainol novo 7), with card inserted, screen doesn't goes up (but u used kernel 2.6.36, compiled with crane_defconfig) |
| 19:57.37 | hno | There is no tp3 or tp5? |
| 19:57.38 | nikk | idea is to boot android from SD, does the procedure the same |
| 19:57.54 | hno | nikk, yes, it was selected because it exposes a lot of the A10. |
| 19:58.17 | nikk | so, the boot options the same? |
| 19:59.01 | hno | nikk, booting from mmc is quite different from booting from nand. Different root filesystem at least. |
| 19:59.18 | hno | and no serial console on most tablets. |
| 19:59.39 | nikk | yeah, that's what i understand. i need to change init scripts for boot from other fs |
| 19:59.50 | mnemoc | nikk: the mmc uboot can't see the nand, so it can't boot from it, yet |
| 20:00.15 | hno | you need to change kernel parameters to give the right root device, unless you have an initrd doing the magics. |
| 20:00.33 | nikk | mnemoc in case external card it doesn't needed. idea is to make CM9 test card, so people can test it without repartition nand |
| 20:00.56 | nikk | or even test it on mele ) |
| 20:01.17 | hno | tries his best to avoid Android stuff for now. |
| 20:01.53 | mnemoc | it's doable, but don't expect it easy specially since you won't be able to debug problems with a dedicated uart (like with the mele) |
| 20:02.09 | nikk | hno i want to use it in a car, there is not so much navigation programs and good multimedia on linux ;-) |
| 20:02.17 | mnemoc | s/with/without/ |
| 20:02.44 | nikk | mnemoc that's what stopping me. with SD inserted, i have no debug interface on my HW |
| 20:03.04 | hno | there is plenty navigation and good multimedia programs in linux. |
| 20:03.08 | mnemoc | nikk: first get it working on a mele |
| 20:03.20 | hno | was about to suggest the same. |
| 20:03.34 | nikk | hno yup, but not so good as on android ;-) |
| 20:03.53 | mnemoc | nikk: to get something on screen you need everything working great |
| 20:04.04 | mnemoc | nikk: don't expect that to happen on you first 100 tries |
| 20:04.51 | mnemoc | better reason to not try without a serial console |
| 20:04.53 | nikk | mnemoc i know ;-) but, if i'll have working CM from NAND, doesn't transform it to SD is only init scripts issue? |
| 20:05.32 | hno | have no idea how easy it would be to transform a NAND CM to an SD one. |
| 20:05.36 | mnemoc | init scripts you don't really know yet |
| 20:05.57 | hno | For a randomg GNU/Linux system if would be very easy. |
| 20:06.00 | mnemoc | and android uses a big deal of partitions |
| 20:06.22 | nikk | mnemoc, mmc-uboot, script.bin, working kernel and rootfs, thats all. |
| 20:06.31 | nikk | all other virtual |
| 20:06.34 | mnemoc | hipboi even mentioned they write some raw text in a "misc" partition |
| 20:06.37 | hno | virtual? |
| 20:06.52 | nikk | mounted bu init from any source |
| 20:07.21 | hno | so loopback, bind mounts whatever? |
| 20:07.37 | nikk | all android partitions can be even images on sd card |
| 20:07.38 | nikk | yup |
| 20:08.02 | mnemoc | sounds fine, doable, but you are blind |
| 20:08.15 | mnemoc | even an stupid typo will halt you |
| 20:08.17 | hno | hates doing stuff blind. |
| 20:08.54 | nikk | hno you are right ) but that i like that idea to have universal image ;-) |
| 20:10.19 | nikk | hno, we have working ubunto on many tablets now (thanks guys for development and tools). opposite port must be not a big problem |
| 20:11.04 | hno | nikk, so get a device where you have access to UART0 and things will be a lot more plesant. |
| 20:11.18 | hno | some tablets do, the mele certainly do. |
| 20:12.37 | nikk | yeah. that's one of the ports: http://www.flashmyandroid.com/forum/showthread.php?672-GUIDE-Building-Ubuntu-images-for-the-Novo-7-Elf |
| 20:15.12 | nikk | in android, u-boot uses ramdisk with bImage. in case i want try mmc-boot, can i just extract ramdisk to /root ext4 and place bImage with script.bin on 1st fat one? |
| 20:16.07 | nikk | or it must be uImage? and script.bin must be renamed to evb.bin? don't know default mmc-boot params |
| 20:17.18 | hno | nikk, uboot-mmc do not know android. |
| 20:17.45 | nikk | but it all about kernel and rootfs loading, doesn't it? |
| 20:18.06 | nikk | and it doesn't matter which system it loads after |
| 20:18.13 | hno | uboot only cares about kernels and initrds. not roots. |
| 20:18.35 | hno | bimage is an android thing. |
| 20:19.07 | hno | ramdisk is an initrd. |
| 20:19.33 | nikk | in android, i used self-compiled 3.0.31+ with crane_defconfig. I can build uImage also... |
| 20:19.51 | hno | you really really should get yourself a device with uart access if you want to do this. |
| 20:20.50 | hno | maybe the novo 7 have test pads for UART if you are lucky. |
| 20:21.11 | nikk | hno i inspected mine and didn't find it on PCB :( |
| 20:21.28 | nikk | or they not signed |
| 20:21.39 | mnemoc | get a mele |
| 20:21.47 | mnemoc | that's why most of us did |
| 20:22.47 | nikk | ;-) but i need touchscreen in my car ;-) |
| 20:23.02 | hno | nikk, Which Novo 7 do you have? |
| 20:23.05 | mnemoc | once you get it working on the mele care about your car |
| 20:23.14 | nikk | hno 7 advanced |
| 20:24.20 | nikk | mnemoc yup, transform it from mele must be straightforward ) |
| 20:25.58 | mnemoc | that's the point exactly. you need a development platform first, and the mele fills that place |
| 20:27.27 | hno | nikk, this? http://images.imp3.net/article/2011/10/14/240010.jpg |
| 20:27.43 | nikk | yes |
| 20:28.18 | nikk | it's even naked now ) |
| 20:28.35 | nikk | running CM9 without wi-fi ) |
| 20:31.34 | nikk | fuf, cm9 compiled fine. about 2hrs cpu work |
| 20:31.58 | hno | What are those 6 test points just next to the CPU? Can't read the text box in that picture. There is also 4 test points on the back of the board close to the NAND that I can't see what it says. |
| 20:33.53 | nikk | they all all unsigned at all |
| 20:34.31 | hno | the ones on the back of the board all have labels in those pictures. |
| 20:37.27 | nikk | on the back - yes. they have signs. CSI INT_VDO DRAM_VCC etc |
| 20:37.32 | nikk | no UART labels |
| 20:38.28 | nikk | nera dram: 3V3 DM2 DP2 GD |
| 20:38.36 | nikk | is this uart? |
| 20:40.20 | nikk | sorry, not near dram. it's on other side near NAND 4 pins |
| 20:40.46 | nikk | 3V3 DM2 DP2 GD - only those seems like debug pins |
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| 20:43.55 | hno | nikk, could be. |
| 20:44.40 | hno | see instructions on mail list how to probe. |
| 20:44.47 | mnemoc | :) |
| 20:45.14 | hno | but DP2 / DM2 do not make much sense to me. |
| 20:45.50 | hno | but probing is harmless. |
| 20:46.23 | hno | unless you do it on a DDR pin.. which those are not. |
| 20:47.35 | hno | just dump my u-boot-mmc image to an sdcard, connect your UART gnd + rx, and poweron. |
| 20:47.55 | hno | don't use the internal NAND system. It may be configured without any console. |
| 20:48.14 | hno | http://www.henriknordstrom.net/code/A10/ |
| 20:52.02 | hno | http://lists.phcomp.co.uk/pipermail/arm-netbook/2012-May/003716.html |
| 20:52.46 | hno | nikk |
| 20:52.51 | nikk | yes |
| 20:52.57 | nikk | i downloaded it |
| 20:53.40 | hno | do you have an 3.3V UART? |
| 20:53.57 | zenitraM | the default internal nand on the n7a will output to uart too. |
| 20:54.06 | nikk | not yet, need to buy ttc conveerter board to usb |
| 20:54.10 | nikk | ttl |
| 20:54.40 | hno | zenitraM, you know ehere n7a uart console is? |
| 20:54.55 | hno | s/ehe/whe/ |
| 20:55.06 | zenitraM | i don't know, haven't opened mine... used script.bin to redirect to sd |
| 20:55.30 | nikk | can it be redirected to usb with cdc_acm enabled u-boot? |
| 20:56.04 | hno | zenitraM, is UART0 enabled in default script.bin? |
| 20:56.27 | zenitraM | i think so |
| 20:56.28 | nikk | thats what problem, if i want debug, i can't use SD, but the goal is to boot from SD... |
| 20:57.17 | hno | nikk, when ubood cdc_acm works yes, but that only gives uboot, not kernel. |
| 20:57.25 | zenitraM | i know... |
| 20:57.41 | nikk | [uart_para0] |
| 20:57.42 | nikk | uart_used= 1 |
| 20:57.42 | nikk | uart_port= 0 |
| 20:57.42 | nikk | uart_type= 2 |
| 20:57.42 | nikk | uart_tx= port:PB22<2><1><1><default> |
| 20:57.42 | nikk | uart_rx= port:PB23<2><1><1><default> |
| 20:57.59 | nikk | it's now in script.bin |
| 20:58.00 | hno | looks good. |
| 20:58.11 | nikk | all other have uart_used = 0 |
| 20:58.38 | zenitraM | that dp2/dm2 seem legit |
| 20:58.48 | zenitraM | i'll try to open mine and try after exams |
| 20:58.57 | hno | zenitraM, legit how? |
| 20:59.22 | nikk | looks like uart (4 testpoins in line, 3.3V / GND) |
| 20:59.26 | zenitraM | idk, there's not much more that fits next to a gnd and a 3v3 |
| 21:00.02 | hno | zenitraM, yes, looks very likely candidates for uart. |
| 21:17.15 | Turl | fuu it doesn't boot :( |
| 21:17.25 | Turl | I unpack, repack the stock boot.img, it works |
| 21:17.43 | Turl | I build sun4i_crane, repack with that and I just get a backlit screen and no usb |
| 21:18.39 | mnemoc | might be mali related? |
| 21:19.02 | Turl | might be, I updated the kernel modules though |
| 21:19.22 | nikk | mine boot / not boot 50/50 |
| 21:19.57 | nikk | with new build, there is camera issues, and it stuck on loading initlogo.rle, if it exist |
| 21:20.10 | nikk | so, not boot with initlogo.rle |
| 21:20.13 | hno | zenitraM, it's test points. placement isn't that important as indicator, But yes looks promising. |
| 21:20.53 | nikk | Turl but i have adb for debug in most cases |
| 21:21.15 | Turl | my USB doesn't do anything |
| 21:21.20 | Turl | lsusb shows no device |
| 21:21.21 | hno | some tablets have rx & tx test points with nothing next to them. |
| 21:21.43 | mnemoc | Turl: sure you compiled usb host? |
| 21:21.55 | nikk | Turl, also, mine doesn't boot yesterday with mali stuff from Quarck2K repo, replaced it with ones from 4.0.3 source |
| 21:22.32 | nikk | Turl does android usb gadget enabled? |
| 21:23.11 | Turl | mnemoc: I built _crane, has OTG iirc |
| 21:23.21 | mnemoc | yes... :-/ |
| 21:23.44 | Turl | CONFIG_USB_SW_SUN4I_USB0_OTG=y |
| 21:24.03 | Turl | nikk: CONFIG_USB_G_ANDROID=y |
| 21:24.20 | mnemoc | then it might be stuck |
| 21:24.27 | nikk | Turl did you edit init.rc somehow? |
| 21:24.32 | hno | night |
| 21:24.44 | Turl | nikk: no, I repacked with working boot.img |
| 21:24.51 | mnemoc | good night hno |
| 21:24.54 | nikk | nho nite |
| 21:24.57 | Turl | which if I unpack + repack it works |
| 21:25.09 | Turl | but if I unpack + repack with new kernel it doesn't |
| 21:25.26 | Turl | night hno |
| 21:25.28 | mnemoc | injected the right script.bin? |
| 21:25.33 | Turl | mnemoc: ? |
| 21:26.04 | mnemoc | i don't know how you are booting, but you'll need the right script.bin preloaded |
| 21:26.12 | nikk | Turl, try to add by less options to .config. ideally by one at a time ;-) |
| 21:26.25 | mnemoc | or the kernel won't know how to use the board |
| 21:26.29 | Turl | mnemoc: the fat partition on nanda loads 'linux' which is uboot |
| 21:26.39 | Turl | idk what does that uboot do, but apparently it boots android bootimages |
| 21:26.43 | Turl | on nandc |
| 21:26.52 | mnemoc | ah, ok |
| 21:27.46 | nikk | mine still boots on Linux localhost 3.0.31+ #2 PREEMPT Sun May 20 20:10:08 MSK 2012 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 21:28.08 | mnemoc | so you only replace the bImage? |
| 21:28.15 | nikk | yup |
| 21:28.42 | nikk | and some in /root. but with initlogo.rle it doesn't boot |
| 21:28.56 | nikk | some weird bug on logo sisplay |
| 21:29.09 | nikk | it worked with 3.0.8 thou |
| 21:29.39 | mnemoc | uhm |
| 21:29.46 | mnemoc | also usb? |
| 21:29.53 | nikk | i don't have uart so i can't debug without adb |
| 21:30.14 | nikk | usb works, i can see android log on console fine |
| 21:30.21 | mnemoc | as you boot from nand you can get an uart out of the uSD |
| 21:30.58 | nikk | mnemoc it's enough to have adb for mow, it works 4 me ;-) |
| 21:31.17 | mnemoc | Turl: doesn't share your luck |
| 21:32.04 | Turl | hmm I have a logo |
| 21:32.09 | Turl | maybe it's that? :/ |
| 21:32.22 | Turl | I'll test in a bit |
| 21:32.23 | Turl | brb |
| 21:32.45 | nikk | Turl r u shure it's initlogo.rle? cause 1 in nanda, 2nd is inilogo.rle, 3rd is bootanimation |
| 21:32.52 | nikk | Turl 1st i have also |
| 21:33.21 | nikk | with 2nd tablet doesn't boot |
| 21:34.00 | nikk | maybe it's wrong formatted, but it worked on 2.3 |
| 21:35.32 | Turl | yeah I see the file on the ramdisk.. |
| 21:36.48 | nikk | in quarx repo, he disabled logo show in init.rc, maybe he had same bug? |
| 21:37.05 | nikk | so you can remove it or change init.rc |
| 21:37.51 | nikk | i added it back and saw onlu strange green line on black, nothing more, no adb |
| 21:38.08 | Turl | well without a logo my screen doesn't blank |
| 21:38.10 | Turl | but still no adb |
| 21:38.36 | nikk | try to wait a little ) |
| 21:39.15 | nikk | and what with my boot.img? no adb also? |
| 21:39.25 | Turl | your boot.img works |
| 21:40.59 | nikk | so, if it's kernel, as i said, try to start with default one, and add options a little in one step. |
| 21:41.25 | Turl | I built default one and it doesn't boot.. :P |
| 21:41.29 | nikk | or get uart on sd and debug |
| 21:41.31 | Turl | sun4i_crane |
| 21:41.48 | nikk | try my sky_defconfig |
| 21:41.49 | Turl | I don't have uart equipment handy |
| 21:42.28 | Turl | I have an arduino on the mail, but I doubt I can do much with it to debug |
| 21:43.30 | zenitraM | well i'm not entirely sure but you might be able to use it as as serial dongle |
| 21:43.33 | nikk | i bet it's all about sun4i disp / lcd drivers |
| 21:43.44 | nikk | they must be compiled in |
| 21:44.13 | nikk | if they not - you'll probably not rich adb loading stage |
| 21:45.36 | nikk | Turl or start with default config from your tab. you can extract it from stock bImage |
| 21:46.26 | nikk | http://www.simiolabs.com/developer/wiki/index.php?title=Extracting_the_config_file_from_an_existing_kernel |
| 21:47.54 | nikk | ^^ this doesn't work on mac, I done it in linux guest ))) |
| 21:49.18 | nikk | now i'm stuck on 2nd rebuild of CM9: http://pastebin.com/UKrg3jZ2 |
| 21:49.40 | nikk | I think it's all mac related. don't have idea how to fix ) |
| 22:06.56 | nikk | gone to ubuntu |
| 22:11.36 | Turl | ikconfig is off on stock kernel |
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| 22:26.27 | mnemoc | Turl: http://dpaste.com/750918/ ? |
| 22:28.41 | Turl | mnemoc: I cannot poke a binary and make it have ikconfig :) |
| 22:28.48 | nikk | heh, gnome not so bad environment ) |
| 22:29.19 | nikk | which irc client you use under linux, guys? |
| 22:29.22 | mnemoc | Turl: obviusly, but should I enable it in the repo? |
| 22:29.34 | mnemoc | nikk: tmux (or screen) + irssi |
| 22:29.39 | Turl | mnemoc: yeah |
| 22:29.44 | nikk | Turl you finded what was wrong? |
| 22:29.53 | Turl | nikk: I know somebody here will laugh, but pidgin |
| 22:30.04 | Turl | nikk: no |
| 22:31.11 | mnemoc | pidgin is the worst irc client ever |
| 22:31.31 | Turl | mnemoc: wrong, empathy sucks even more :) |
| 22:31.38 | mnemoc | :D |
| 22:31.51 | Turl | I use empathy for IM and pidgin for irc |
| 22:32.14 | mnemoc | o_o |
| 22:32.26 | Turl | I used to use pidgin for all the things |
| 22:32.26 | mnemoc | why not pidgin for im? |
| 22:32.38 | Turl | empathy integrates better with gnome3 |
| 22:32.47 | Turl | and it's actually good @ im |
| 22:32.48 | mnemoc | double yuck |
| 22:33.04 | hno | nikk, some sad news. DP & DM is standard names for the USB data pins. |
| 22:33.35 | zenitraM | :( |
| 22:33.44 | mnemoc | good night * |
| 22:33.45 | nikk | hno: it's gooooooooooooood news! i tried to find usb host on board without success |
| 22:33.59 | nikk | mnemoc, night, maser! |
| 22:34.07 | zenitraM | nite! |
| 22:34.12 | hno | night all, again. |
| 22:34.19 | nikk | hno, u made my day! |
| 22:34.19 | zenitraM | but... the external usb port is also host |
| 22:34.26 | nikk | hno, night! |
| 22:34.55 | nikk | zenitraM, but it works weird with powered usb hub and serial devices enabled |
| 22:35.18 | nikk | zenitraM, for example, gps doesn't work, if bluetooth enabled ;-) |
| 22:35.32 | zenitraM | but then... the internal usb has 3.3V? o.O |
| 22:35.57 | nikk | zenitraM, i can't find a solution except put this devices on different basses/hubs |
| 22:36.36 | nikk | zenitraM, probably, the role of that pins configured via script.bin somehow? |
| 22:37.26 | zenitraM | i'm not sure |
| 22:39.52 | nikk | but it's very interesting. I will experiment with that pins, script.bin and usb hub tomorrow. |
| 22:40.10 | nikk | hope it IS usb |
| 22:42.31 | zenitraM | well, inform about your results |
| 22:42.45 | zenitraM | i'd prefer it being serial, but oh well :) |
| 22:43.28 | hno | zenitraM, there is still those 6 unnamed TPs next to the CPU.... |
| 22:44.42 | zenitraM | well i'll test when i finish those damned exams |
| 22:45.12 | zenitraM | goes back to studying nfs, pop, imap, smtp, telnet, rlogin, ftp, tftp and http for tomorrow |
| 22:46.10 | lundman | i know them all, what do you need to know |
| 22:47.39 | zenitraM | i know and understand them all, i just hate having to memorize all the options and headers instead of being able to check the RFC for reference |
| 22:48.10 | lundman | ah yep |
| 22:48.25 | Turl | zenitraM: EHLO |
| 22:48.38 | t0dbld|work | +1 to Empathy |
| 22:48.46 | t0dbld|work | great integration in cinnamon |
| 22:49.43 | zenitraM | Turl: 250-smtp.uc3m.es |
| 22:52.06 | Turl | MSG FROM spammer <joe@google.com> |
| 22:54.16 | Turl | successfully DOSed zenitraM's SMTP server |
| 22:55.41 | zenitraM | Turl: did you mean: MAIL FROM? |
| 22:57.32 | Turl | zenitraM: I never remember SMTP spec :) |
| 22:57.39 | Turl | and mail servers hate me when I test 'em |
| 22:57.40 | Turl | :D |
| 22:57.56 | hno | is almost convinced those 6 are (bottom up) UART0_RX. UART0_TX. JTAG_DO, JTAG_DI, JTAG_MS, JTAG_CK. Order within each pair of 2 may be switched. |
| 22:58.00 | zenitraM | neither do I, that's why I hate having to remember the spec to write it on paper with no computer to test |
| 22:58.09 | Turl | zenitraM: HTTP code 418, quick |
| 22:58.25 | zenitraM | I'm a teapot |
| 22:58.59 | zenitraM | the funny thing is, i don't know that from the course content but that is the only uncommon one i remember. |
| 23:00.41 | Turl | difference between 301 and 302? |
| 23:01.42 | zenitraM | permanent and temporary redir |
| 23:01.56 | hno | zenitraM, 302/307. |
| 23:01.58 | Turl | zenitraM: no, -1 |
| 23:02.07 | Turl | zenitraM: problem? :) |
| 23:03.02 | hno | http 3xx redirects have a twisted history.. |
| 23:03.20 | zenitraM | my slides are outdated or plain wrong then. |
| 23:03.29 | zenitraM | 3XX Redirección: |
| 23:03.30 | zenitraM | 301 Moved: El URL se ha movido de forma permanente a un nuevo sitio. 302 Found: El URL se ha encontrado de forma temporal en un nuevo sitio. |
| 23:03.42 | hno | 302 is temporary, but... |
| 23:04.34 | hno | user agents are broken, so 307 is temporary. |
| 23:05.00 | Turl | 500 error? |
| 23:05.03 | *** join/#arm-netbook nikk (~somebody@nikk.starlink.ru) |
| 23:05.05 | zenitraM | internal server error |
| 23:05.19 | Turl | aka "lol who derped .htaccess" |
| 23:05.33 | zenitraM | +1 |
| 23:05.42 | hno | it's actually any server error for which there is no more specific code. |
| 23:06.01 | Turl | yeah |
| 23:06.24 | Turl | you usually see it on apache when you break htaccess, or on lighttpd when fcgi are dead |
| 23:06.25 | nikk | fight with git ))) |
| 23:07.40 | nikk | guys, why repo sync not discarded my changes in local tree. is it normal behaviour? |
| 23:07.55 | hno | repo sync? |
| 23:08.05 | Turl | nikk: if you repo started a branch, yeah |
| 23:08.15 | Turl | use repo sync -d to detach any branches |
| 23:08.24 | nikk | yes, on android tree. Turl thx |
| 23:08.28 | hno | android? |
| 23:08.53 | zenitraM | the class problems are funny but easy. "A access B's http server with its documentroot mounted from C via NFS. draw all the requests done when A GETs a .txt." |
| 23:09.24 | hno | all? Really all? |
| 23:10.02 | zenitraM | or at least the most significant ones. |
| 23:10.17 | Turl | A<-HTTP->B<-NFS->C |
| 23:10.21 | Turl | wasn't that hard :) |
| 23:10.31 | zenitraM | the messages involved |
| 23:10.45 | Turl | they didn't ask for the msgs :) |
| 23:11.02 | nikk | Turl, but, if i made some changes, repo sync merge them with current repo files (i mean updates will aply anyway)? |
| 23:11.07 | zenitraM | they do, just it was lost on translation, oh well. gonna sleep |
| 23:11.19 | Turl | nikk: if upstream was updated your branch will be rebased |
| 23:11.32 | Turl | gnite zenitraM |
| 23:11.40 | zenitraM | nite |
| 23:11.55 | nikk | zenitraM nite |
| 23:12.01 | t0dbld|work | night zenitraM |
| 23:12.06 | *** join/#arm-netbook Eigen (~Eigen@S0106b8c75dc9a198.vn.shawcable.net) |
| 23:12.25 | nikk | Turl rebased mean... merged with my changes and repo updates? |
| 23:13.30 | Turl | rebased means rebased :P |
| 23:13.56 | Eigen | Turl? |
| 23:14.00 | nikk | gone to google reading git rebases ) |
| 23:14.06 | Eigen | Is that like a fancy curl? |
| 23:14.12 | Turl | nikk: http://hades.name/media/git/git-rebase.png |
| 23:14.21 | Turl | Eigen: ? |
| 23:14.34 | lundman | guess I should try one of the linux boots for mele |
| 23:14.53 | Eigen | did the A10 All Winning guy every ocme back? |
| 23:15.44 | DonkeyHotei | Eigen: you mean hipboi__? |
| 23:15.45 | nikk | Turl quite understandable. it backup my changes, apply master, than apply my changes again to new master ;-) |
| 23:15.51 | Eigen | DonkeyHotei: yes |
| 23:15.58 | DonkeyHotei | look in the channel |
| 23:16.01 | Turl | nikk: pretty much yep :) |
| 23:16.18 | Eigen | DonkeyHotei: and? |
| 23:16.33 | DonkeyHotei | is he in it? |
| 23:17.10 | nikk | i can see the light! ) |
| 23:17.41 | hno | DonkeyHotei, no user list in your IRC client? |
| 23:18.00 | Eigen | DonkeyHotei: yes |
| 23:18.07 | Eigen | but thta does not mean he is active.... |
| 23:18.11 | DonkeyHotei | hno: i wasn't the one who asked whether he came back |
| 23:18.21 | Eigen | *that |
| 23:18.33 | hno | sorry DonkeyHotei |
| 23:18.51 | nikk | Turl now i almost understand how to deal with all that stuff (git, repo, my changes) ))) |
| 23:19.01 | DonkeyHotei | Eigen: you asked whether he came back to the channel, and now you know he came back |
| 23:19.15 | DonkeyHotei | because he is in it |
| 23:19.24 | hno | and seen talking in it. |
| 23:20.01 | Eigen | I did not specifically ask whether he was in the channel but tis was a more broad question. But I see I have reached an answer so the latter fact does not matter anymore. |
| 23:20.47 | hno | Eigen, while he was away he was not connected. |
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| 23:23.35 | nikk | Turl i set local repo manifest to fetch alwinner-dev-team device tree instead quarx, the only problem is camera source and some missing headers in system/core/includes. |
| 23:25.34 | ZaEarl | nikk, sounds like the problem I had. did you grab the "common" repo too? |
| 23:25.36 | Turl | yeah quarx has worked on that, we need to clean and #ifdef the code |
| 23:25.56 | nikk | no, i just get diffs from 4.0.3 |
| 23:26.05 | nikk | as some changes to frameworks |
| 23:29.08 | nikk | Turl yeah, 4sure common there, as it contains all the stuff, and I added only needed code to build CM9 from 4.0.3 to frameworks, but now switched to allwinner branch back (just for check compile process). |
