| 00:06.38 | lundman | so, whats happening today |
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| 00:48.41 | nikk | hm, guys, i have compile error for 3.0 v2 kernel under Mac OS X |
| 00:49.14 | nikk | drivers/usb/gadget/android.c: In function 'android_disable': |
| 00:49.16 | nikk | drivers/usb/gadget/android.c:221:1: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed declarations and code [-Wdeclaration-after-statement] |
| 00:49.16 | nikk | drivers/usb/gadget/android.c:226:12: error: invalid storage class for function 'adb_function_init' |
| 00:49.17 | nikk | etc |
| 01:06.52 | DonkeyHotei | surely you have the same cross-compile environment... |
| 01:10.24 | nikk | yes, i use arm-linux-gnueabi- ... there is new code and option for Android USB Gadget (USB_G_ANDROID) |
| 01:10.46 | nikk | which throw the error on compile |
| 01:12.29 | DonkeyHotei | can you paste the offending source line for the error? |
| 01:12.42 | lundman | looks like a variable defined after code has started |
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| 01:21.48 | nikk | http://pastebin.com/AH9zTnab |
| 01:22.32 | lundman | needs the code, not the compiler errors :) |
| 01:25.42 | nikk | static int adb_function_init(struct android_usb_function *f, struct usb_composite_dev *cdev) |
| 01:25.42 | nikk | { |
| 01:25.42 | nikk | f->config = kzalloc(sizeof(struct adb_data), GFP_KERNEL); |
| 01:25.42 | nikk | if (!f->config) |
| 01:25.42 | nikk | return -ENOMEM; |
| 01:25.43 | nikk | return adb_setup(); |
| 01:25.43 | nikk | } |
| 01:26.45 | t0dbld|work | good read :-) http://www.borowitzreport.com/2012/05/17/a-letter-from-mark-zuckerberg/ |
| 01:29.48 | lundman | In function 'android_disable 221:1: warning: ISO C90 forbids mixed 226:12: error: invalid storage |
| 01:34.19 | nikk | there is warning, not en error: |
| 01:34.21 | nikk | struct adb_data { |
| 01:34.21 | nikk | bool opened; |
| 01:34.21 | nikk | bool enabled; |
| 01:34.21 | nikk | }; |
| 01:36.30 | DonkeyHotei | looks to me like something has gone wrong with the makefile |
| 01:37.52 | nikk | also, found some related reverts for AOSP USB Gadget: https://github.com/faux123/msm8660-htc-ics/pull/3/files |
| 01:39.22 | t0dbld|work | lol you kaning faux ? |
| 01:40.07 | nikk | no ) |
| 01:40.12 | t0dbld|work | :-P |
| 01:41.35 | lundman | guessing "bool" isnt defined |
| 01:50.05 | t0dbld|work | hno: mnemoc zenitraM any you guys still around ? |
| 01:50.11 | DonkeyHotei | bool is a c++ type |
| 01:50.13 | DonkeyHotei | not c |
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| 01:58.52 | lundman | typedef int bool; line before :) |
| 02:06.01 | nikk | ^^ doesn't help |
| 02:07.07 | lundman | does zercosz hang out here too? |
| 02:07.10 | DonkeyHotei | i'm telling you, it's a makefile issue of some sort |
| 02:07.47 | DonkeyHotei | did you install gnu make? |
| 02:07.55 | DonkeyHotei | mac os x uses bsd make |
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| 02:16.37 | nikk | hm, it was some GNU related hints on setup... |
| 02:16.37 | nikk | Pro:~ nikk$ port list installed|grep make |
| 02:16.37 | nikk | automake @1.12 devel/automake |
| 02:16.38 | nikk | gmake @3.81 devel/gmake |
| 02:16.38 | nikk | gmake @3.82 devel/gmake |
| 02:17.57 | nikk | and I have two of them... |
| 02:24.00 | lundman | its not makefile :) |
| 02:24.03 | t0dbld|work | if you are trying to build android than honestly it would be worth your while to atleast do a VB linux install |
| 02:25.15 | DonkeyHotei | compiling anything on os x is masochism |
| 02:25.35 | DonkeyHotei | i used to do it all the time |
| 02:25.43 | DonkeyHotei | then i found better pain |
| 02:25.59 | t0dbld|work | you would have to put a bullet in my head to get me to use lion (IOS for your computer) |
| 02:26.25 | DonkeyHotei | even windows is better now |
| 02:26.59 | t0dbld|work | well you cant do android on windows |
| 02:27.07 | lundman | I do all my dev on osx, not a issue there |
| 02:27.22 | lundman | windows is definitely the worst dev, if you try to use the offical tools, ie, not cigwin |
| 02:27.25 | lundman | *y |
| 02:27.48 | lundman | but, cross compiling linux? yeah no.. I booted up a linux VM for that |
| 02:28.12 | t0dbld|work | yeah , hes in arm-netbook room , doing cross compiles and android building |
| 02:28.18 | nikk | t0dbld|work: I have working setup for Android 2.3 and ICS build. Only issue now is a kernel, I compile it in VM, but want to do it on host ;-) |
| 02:28.43 | t0dbld|work | well gl nikk |
| 02:28.49 | t0dbld|work | no one said it couldnt be done |
| 02:28.58 | t0dbld|work | jsut may not be good use of time :-P |
| 02:29.07 | DonkeyHotei | indeed |
| 02:29.20 | lundman | precisely |
| 02:29.20 | t0dbld|work | considering there will be plenty of other things that piss you off and break and need fixing as you work on it alone |
| 02:30.05 | t0dbld|work | hell im making a duel boot android / gentoo - enlightenment a10 tablet |
| 02:30.14 | t0dbld|work | obiously i like pain |
| 02:30.20 | nikk | ) |
| 02:30.43 | t0dbld|work | but at same time i atleast am having all my hosts run either gentoo or a debian varient linux |
| 02:30.56 | t0dbld|work | and i have both at all times at my disposal |
| 02:30.59 | nikk | I have triple-boot macbook with OS X, Ubuntu 12.04 and Win (all of them can boot natively) ;P |
| 02:31.05 | t0dbld|work | making my end as easy as possible |
| 02:31.19 | t0dbld|work | haha most my machines tripple boot |
| 02:31.24 | t0dbld|work | all linux |
| 02:31.27 | t0dbld|work | :-) |
| 02:31.49 | nikk | try to do it on Mac ;-) EFI is a beast ) |
| 02:31.56 | t0dbld|work | lol |
| 02:32.02 | t0dbld|work | well i have a million times |
| 02:32.10 | t0dbld|work | but that is end of that |
| 02:32.16 | t0dbld|work | i will never buy another mac product ever |
| 02:32.55 | DonkeyHotei | i ditched the mac platform when they went intel, and i never looked back |
| 02:33.00 | t0dbld|work | but get gentoo on a mac mini server 4,1 1tb if you want a challenge |
| 02:33.14 | t0dbld|work | and like efi |
| 02:33.17 | t0dbld|work | GL |
| 02:33.57 | t0dbld|work | i put money on you never even see your HD's :-) |
| 02:34.02 | nikk | The problem is linux doesn't use AHCI in native boot with grub, so my SSD a bit slow |
| 02:34.43 | t0dbld|work | linux ... ssd ... a bit slow .... does not compute |
| 02:35.51 | DonkeyHotei | t0dbld|work: it's apple. 'nuff said. |
| 02:37.03 | nikk | EFI do BIOS emulation for booting in Ubuntu (or Windows) partition, so there is no AHCI in both of them (on nVidia chipset). On intel it can be enabled via direct controller registers access ) |
| 02:37.49 | t0dbld|work | sounds like you should wipe all that and flash a new bios |
| 02:37.51 | t0dbld|work | :-) |
| 02:38.03 | nikk | ))) |
| 02:38.10 | lundman | no reason to dualboot a mac :) |
| 02:38.32 | nikk | true, parallels do the stuff ) |
| 02:38.35 | t0dbld|work | not since they went to lion |
| 02:38.38 | t0dbld|work | :-) |
| 02:39.01 | t0dbld|work | id sooner give up my first born than have IOS on my pc |
| 02:39.18 | t0dbld|work | snow leopard was at least usable |
| 02:39.29 | t0dbld|work | for what it was it was a nice os |
| 02:39.56 | t0dbld|work | although windows 8 is going to be the same poison |
| 02:40.06 | t0dbld|work | although i think on tablets it might work out nicely |
| 02:40.11 | DonkeyHotei | 10.8 is mountain lion. 10.1 was puma. puma is spanish for mountain lion. |
| 02:40.14 | t0dbld|work | if i wanted a windows tablet that is |
| 02:40.41 | nikk | DonkeyHotei: D |
| 02:40.49 | DonkeyHotei | E |
| 02:41.24 | t0dbld|work | so nikk to answer your question i sold every piece of old mac shit i owned made more than enough money to build blleding edge beast machines and never looked back |
| 02:41.25 | lundman | parallels is ok, I've been using virtualbox lately |
| 02:41.32 | lerc_ | I have a Windows Tablet. A portege M200. |
| 02:41.37 | t0dbld|work | i like VB |
| 02:41.48 | t0dbld|work | lerc_: windows 8 ? |
| 02:42.04 | DonkeyHotei | 10.3 was panther. "panther" is a category of species, but most often refers to the leopard, which was 10.5 |
| 02:42.19 | lerc_ | XP. Manufactured 2005. |
| 02:42.30 | nikk | lundman me too, but after some speed tests (SSD and 3D), I switched to Parallels, it's 10x faster ;-) |
| 02:42.39 | DonkeyHotei | lerc_: put ubuntu on it |
| 02:43.35 | t0dbld|work | will also never run ubuntu again |
| 02:43.50 | lerc_ | DonkeyHotei: I would like to but My Fiance uses it to log in to work with some weird .net thing. |
| 02:44.00 | t0dbld|work | hates unity with every breathe in his body |
| 02:44.03 | lundman | interesting.. when I was testing both, only VB would do DirectX that I needed for android emulator |
| 02:44.06 | lerc_ | Also Wacom drivers aren't the best on Linux. |
| 02:44.29 | DonkeyHotei | wacom on linux is pretty nice |
| 02:44.41 | DonkeyHotei | native gimp support |
| 02:44.54 | lundman | although VB's DirectX install is a pain, hs to be done in safemodew |
| 02:44.57 | nikk | boot ubuntu to check those kernel compile errors gone |
| 02:45.15 | lerc_ | If there's a live USB that I could test it out on I'd be interested. |
| 02:45.15 | t0dbld|work | 512mb ram on that though gotta hurt |
| 02:45.19 | DonkeyHotei | get her a netbook for the windows |
| 02:46.09 | lerc_ | I'd actually just turn it into a rerminal for may main box and make it a cheapass cintiq |
| 02:46.20 | nikk | lundman I have 4+ Windows perfarmance index in Parallels guest :P |
| 02:46.24 | lerc_ | typing bad today. |
| 02:47.02 | lundman | I've not used parallels in 2 years so I can believe it. at the end of the day, VB was free and all I needed for dev :) |
| 02:47.22 | nikk | lundman: https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/2258618/1/VM?h=9a4998 |
| 02:48.36 | lundman | looks good |
| 02:49.56 | nikk | so, on my mac Paralles outperforms VB twice |
| 02:50.09 | t0dbld|work | ehh only 56-76 not going to make it with only 10 minutes left lol |
| 02:50.27 | t0dbld|work | damn computing power of this a10 :-P |
| 02:50.40 | lundman | parallels does SMP now? didnt used to |
| 02:51.12 | nikk | and even do aero stuff :P |
| 02:51.37 | lundman | 2007/3.0 version |
| 02:51.44 | lundman | guess its been a while since I used it |
| 02:52.46 | nikk | and they realy improved disk IO subsystem, it almost as fast as native (on SSD) |
| 02:56.25 | lundman | luckily, I only use VM for compiling llink for windows and all the embedded. no dev needed :) |
| 02:58.51 | t0dbld|work | FUCK |
| 02:58.59 | t0dbld|work | damn tablet lost internet conenction |
| 02:59.05 | t0dbld|work | failed |
| 02:59.41 | DonkeyHotei | ? |
| 03:00.19 | t0dbld|work | jesus |
| 03:00.20 | lundman | heh |
| 03:00.24 | t0dbld|work | well that blows |
| 03:00.57 | lundman | so whats available for mele that usable now? I tested the android4 image, its ok but lacking |
| 03:01.25 | DonkeyHotei | t0dbld|work: ? |
| 03:04.10 | t0dbld|work | no interent means emerge / compile / install failed |
| 03:04.18 | t0dbld|work | means i get to start a huge one over again |
| 03:05.40 | DonkeyHotei | oh, right, gentoo |
| 03:05.41 | t0dbld|work | ok well im going to ressume this from my house |
| 03:05.43 | t0dbld|work | bbiab |
| 03:20.41 | t0dbld | well here we go again |
| 03:21.30 | t0dbld | woohoo didnt loose em all |
| 03:21.43 | t0dbld | 16 to go |
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| 03:35.27 | nikk | hmmm. Guys, my OS X not an issue. I have the same compile error on 3.0 v2 kernel. try build -p sun4i_crane |
| 03:35.48 | nikk | in linux it doesn't compiled also |
| 03:37.38 | nikk | allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 branch |
| 03:37.57 | nikk | synced with github today |
| 03:39.40 | DonkeyHotei | crane? |
| 03:39.48 | nikk | yup |
| 03:40.07 | nikk | android USB gadget is the killer |
| 03:40.49 | nikk | default crane config used |
| 03:41.35 | DonkeyHotei | ok |
| 03:43.42 | nikk | but i'm happy it's not my os x. now I have working build environment for Android AND kernel natively |
| 03:43.54 | DonkeyHotei | nice |
| 03:44.17 | nikk | hardest part was to build arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc |
| 03:44.53 | nikk | almost ready no setup CM9 source |
| 03:45.21 | nikk | leaked ICS 4.0.3 built just fine, but it's ugly |
| 03:48.06 | mpthompson | For the Mele A1000, what's the latest/best kernel to use for a Debian Wheezy armhf system? I built the 3.0.31 kernel a week ago, but I'm hoping things might have improved since then. |
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| 08:38.23 | hno | mpthompson, https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/wiki |
| 08:39.29 | mnemoc | wow, first time I see someone refering to that page :p |
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| 08:50.08 | mnemoc | nikk: what error are you getting building -v2 and how are you building it? |
| 08:51.06 | nikk | mnemoc: i made issue here: https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/14 |
| 08:51.38 | mnemoc | uh, thank you, didn't notice |
| 08:52.04 | mnemoc | nikk: that looks like a missing #include |
| 08:59.12 | mnemoc | aaaarg.... can't find how to get USB_G_ANDROID enabled |
| 08:59.39 | rz2k | I have that issue too. |
| 09:01.09 | mnemoc | rz2k: the build error or the trouble enabling USB_G_ANDROID in a sun4i_defconfig based .config? |
| 09:01.27 | rz2k | build error |
| 09:05.01 | mnemoc | meh. building sun4i_crane now |
| 09:11.26 | mnemoc | nasty |
| 09:17.17 | nikk | mnemoc: USB_G_ANDROID enabled by default for sun4i_crane platform build, so everyone who make it for android will get in trouble ;-) |
| 09:18.11 | nikk | init repo for CM9 build |
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| 09:36.37 | rm | http://www.aliexpress.com/product-fm/563764893-New-released-Android4-0-IPTV-google-tv-smart-android-box-allwinner-A10-Model-MK802--wholesalers.html |
| 09:36.42 | rm | anyone got one of these? |
| 09:38.53 | lundman | or borrow their "firmware" |
| 09:40.17 | naobsd | good afternoon |
| 09:42.10 | nikk | hi naobsd |
| 09:43.12 | rm | I don't care about their firmware much, what I wonder if it's possible to install e.g. Debian there |
| 09:44.23 | mnemoc | rm: with a10 the answer is always yes |
| 09:44.37 | nikk | rm: as A10 is open source, yes, no problem! |
| 09:44.50 | rm | mnemoc, and without breaking it open to access microscopic internal pins? |
| 09:44.52 | mnemoc | and you can boot your own system from sd |
| 09:44.55 | mnemoc | uSD |
| 09:45.18 | mnemoc | rm: you only need the uSD port |
| 09:46.25 | mnemoc | rm: it's more difficult without having both uSD and uart, but it's possible |
| 09:47.22 | nikk | mnemoc: did you get those android usb gadget errors on compile? |
| 09:47.31 | mnemoc | yes |
| 09:48.26 | nikk | what do you think about that new AOSP driver throw errors in CM9? |
| 09:48.48 | mnemoc | naively I thought I would have time to improve bin2fex after having sent that mail yesterday.... |
| 09:49.35 | nikk | ;-) don't hurry |
| 09:51.17 | naobsd | nikk: what's this "new AOSP driver throw errors in CM9" ? |
| 09:54.50 | nikk | naobsd: hm, there are some new logic in kernel part for USB gadget, which even doesn't compiled yet in bleeding edge source ;-) and I found revert commit on GitHub, which contains information about some incompatibility with CM9 https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/issues/14 |
| 09:55.34 | mnemoc | nikk: can you split that into a different issue and explain it better? :) |
| 09:56.13 | mnemoc | or if you really find it related, simply edit the ticket and explain that part better |
| 09:57.04 | rm | can Allwinner's HDMI output be used with an HDMI to DVI adapter? |
| 09:57.49 | nikk | mnemoc I need to test it 1st in CM9 for compatibility ;-) I'll report if will find any |
| 09:58.30 | nikk | rm: 4 sure, DVI = HDMI without sound |
| 10:06.18 | mnemoc | nikk: please test android gadget in -v2 now |
| 10:06.31 | mnemoc | nikk: are you tsynik? |
| 10:06.35 | nikk | yup |
| 10:10.19 | mnemoc | rz2k: can you test -v2 now? the android gadget problem should be fixed |
| 10:14.34 | nikk | mnemoc: u r my hero! v2 compiles even on my OS X! |
| 10:14.44 | mnemoc | \o/ |
| 10:26.21 | mnemoc | nikk: can you close the ticket? :) |
| 10:27.46 | naobsd | when I got A10 device, I didn't think I can get working kernel/android source and I can find developers ;) I'm feeling happy. |
| 10:28.43 | nikk | naobsd yeah it's so unusual for chineese products ) |
| 10:29.17 | nikk | mnemoc: done. khm, in v2 there is still example.ko build ;-) |
| 10:31.46 | mnemoc | nikk: yes, there is a lot still to merge from v1, but hopefully nothing really important is still missing |
| 10:32.27 | nikk | it give me the error on build only modules stage, need to creat 4 directories by hand ;-) |
| 10:32.38 | mnemoc | naobsd: the A10 is so nice we simply couldn't resist :p |
| 10:34.27 | naobsd | nikk: I can't count how many times I had to say like as "please don't expect so much" during my CM9 porting projects... |
| 10:35.07 | nikk | mnemoc i'm only unhappy with USB host driver. It won't work with my BT and GPS concurrently |
| 10:35.39 | nikk | naobsd: yeah, it's people mind. they wan "all" and "now" =) |
| 10:35.57 | nikk | but won't learn anything ;-) |
| 10:35.58 | naobsd | mnemoc: yup :) |
| 10:37.46 | naobsd | nikk: hehe. now I can become the person who expect others' work :) |
| 10:39.04 | nikk | naobsd: yup, we'll do our best ))) |
| 10:41.04 | naobsd | my other projects, rockchip and telechips, have no update more than 6 months. probably I should do something for them now ;) |
| 10:42.03 | nikk | naobsd: about serial GPS driver, I inspected and compiled about 5 sources for gingerbread (freerunner from x86, another one, o-droid ), but all of them have some issues which I'm unhappy with. |
| 10:44.02 | naobsd | can you tell me about issues? I'm not professional so I'll not be able to answer them, but I want to hear about them. |
| 10:44.18 | nikk | and now in CM9 there is cool option to choose between internal and external one (even bluetooth supported), so I'll go into it son |
| 10:44.21 | nikk | soon |
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| 10:46.19 | nikk | naobsd I'm not professional. Some have bad time logic and not correctly calculate UTC diff, others have callback issues and problems on restart service, 3rd use not all NMEA sentences and wrong source for satellites count and signal strength etc |
| 10:47.38 | nikk | I compared them one by one, and found many variants of ONE driver with many diffs, sometimes wrong ones... |
| 10:50.02 | naobsd | nikk: I see... I also found many variants, so I chosen vanilla one for 1st place |
| 10:50.59 | nikk | it's better to put NMEA parser in separate file for example |
| 10:53.42 | nikk | most complete one is GPS HAL for HD2/Leo |
| 10:55.29 | nikk | https://github.com/tytung/ |
| 10:57.54 | naobsd | nikk: as I said I also want to use my USB GPS dongle. I'll try to do more work when I can do, but please "don't except" ;) hehe |
| 10:59.50 | nikk | naobsd how long lime there is support for internal / external module switching and bluetooth GPS wrapper in CM9? |
| 11:00.24 | nikk | i mean is it was there 3 month ago? |
| 11:00.40 | nikk | ))) |
| 11:00.57 | naobsd | I think less than 3 month |
| 11:02.55 | nikk | so, as i understand, there is separate parser, and device wrapper / switcher, which decides how to access port (bluetooth, USB, etc). |
| 11:03.04 | naobsd | nikk: sorry, it was commited at Janualy http://review.cyanogenmod.com/#/c/12095/ |
| 11:04.16 | naobsd | well, I didn't look BT GPS support yet |
| 11:05.16 | naobsd | hmm, why it has NMEAParser.java... |
| 11:05.39 | naobsd | I have to learn GPS framework in ICS :( |
| 11:05.55 | nikk | heh, it can be even not BT |
| 11:05.56 | nikk | https://github.com/AndroidRoot/gps_wrapper_tf201 |
| 11:06.13 | nikk | they use /dev/ttyACM0 for external one |
| 11:06.26 | nikk | and parser is not an issue anymore |
| 11:07.04 | hp_ | http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/17/via-unveils-fanless-eden-x2-packing-amos-3002-pc/ |
| 11:07.06 | hp_ | lovely |
| 11:10.16 | naobsd | I was thinking bluetooth GPS is connected as serial device(SPP) |
| 11:11.22 | naobsd | ...and there is a code to read/write via /dev/ttyXXX for them. but it seems it's wrong ;) |
| 11:12.26 | nikk | naobsd nope, it's the same, but the read is via socket ) |
| 11:12.43 | nikk | and session established with SPP UID |
| 11:13.41 | nikk | as it was in many Bluetoth GPS providers which worked via mock locations |
| 11:14.10 | naobsd | ah, what I said is, I thought it's done in C code like GB, not Java. |
| 11:15.42 | naobsd | it seems CM9's BT GPS support code doesn't use standard GPS framework like as /system/lib/hw/gps.XXX.so |
| 11:17.06 | nikk | yup, but asus wrapper does switching libraries, based on settings |
| 11:17.08 | naobsd | probably it's not good to implement gps.XXX.so which use bluetooth framework in ICS |
| 11:17.20 | nikk | in case external GPS on /dev/ttyXXX |
| 11:18.18 | naobsd | yup, I can understand code in gps_wrapper_tf201 |
| 11:19.04 | nikk | so, good way is C lib, which access /dev/XXX but think it's internal one, and bluetooth external capabilities |
| 11:20.33 | naobsd | I'm curious about implementation of gpsinternal.tegra.so and gpsdongle.tegra.so |
| 11:20.42 | naobsd | if they uses NMEA |
| 11:22.43 | nikk | internal - code for power control of chip etc, dongle - just detector and wrapper to Java? |
| 11:23.40 | naobsd | they should have parser |
| 11:23.55 | nikk | so, there are two of them ;-) |
| 11:25.19 | naobsd | I remembered about GPSSHIM. |
| 11:27.09 | naobsd | GPS framework should be similar as GB, but different interface. then, raw data need to be parsed in gps.XXX.so and only extracted information should be passed to upper layer. |
| 11:28.25 | naobsd | I think it's possible to make tty interface for BT GPS, and also it's possible to make gps.XXX.so for BT GPS. |
| 11:29.09 | nikk | yup, and java parser only for BT part, as it was in http://sourceforge.net/p/bluegps4droid/git |
| 11:31.20 | nikk | there are no limits in C + java ;-) I even made V4L FM Radio, based on C v4l fm radio code and cyanogen fm app |
| 11:31.22 | naobsd | but I think BT GPS should be handled like as CM9. if it uses tty interface, it needs setup script. it's not good because BT devices should be handled in Java frameworks |
| 11:31.53 | naobsd | s/Java frameworks/Settings screen/ |
| 11:32.58 | naobsd | I guess BlueGps4Droid(or clone? I'm not sure) can be used for USB GPS dongle |
| 11:33.01 | nikk | naobsd tty interface is very strange in android (at least on A10 devices). I'm still fight with it |
| 11:33.38 | nikk | naobsd 4 sure. I made it work with BT or USB, based on settings |
| 11:34.00 | nikk | but it doesn't provide info about satellites signal and count |
| 11:34.18 | nikk | does this matter? ;-) |
| 11:35.23 | naobsd | I guess it's limitation in mock interface? |
| 11:35.51 | nikk | Yup, in LocationProvider options |
| 11:38.52 | naobsd | BT GPS support in CM9 is different to BlueGps4Droid |
| 11:40.00 | nikk | but it adds new provider for bluetooth too, as i seen ;-) |
| 11:40.54 | naobsd | it seems it parses GPRMC/GPGGA/GPGSA/GPGSV |
| 11:40.59 | nikk | A10 get popular, according to mailing list: "Our company made Multimedia Audio System using A10. of course, using ADC and DAC for i2s audio." |
| 11:42.14 | nikk | naobsd RMC for detecting FIX/NO FIX, it's a key (A/V) |
| 11:42.47 | naobsd | if it's parser is good, it may be better to make another provider, which open /dev/tty and use BTGPS parser |
| 11:43.47 | nikk | yup. I only don't know, how hard it will be parse my 10Hz receiver messages ;-) |
| 11:44.01 | nikk | C lib do it just fine ;-) |
| 11:46.06 | naobsd | I don't have BT GPS...I guess it's same as USB GPS, right? |
| 11:47.20 | naobsd | I don't know java well so currently I have no idea how to use tty instead of bluetooth socket in java code ;) |
| 11:47.21 | nikk | yup |
| 11:50.15 | nikk | naobsd: heh, just synced CM9 repo, added my gitgub to repo/local_manifest.xml, but get this error on sync: error: revision refs/heads/ics in tsynik/android_device_a10_n7a not found |
| 11:50.47 | nikk | it's my 1st expirience with repo and github ) |
| 11:51.24 | nikk | how can i define branch? |
| 11:51.27 | nikk | maser |
| 11:57.01 | naobsd | revision="XXX" in <remote > |
| 11:57.52 | nikk | naobsd: about tty access, it's even simplier than bluetooth, work with it via FileInputOutputStream, as with a file ;-) |
| 11:58.42 | nikk | heh, i typed rev="" there =) |
| 11:58.52 | naobsd | :) |
| 12:07.16 | naobsd | hmm. Quarx's speed is very fast. I can't follow him ;) |
| 12:08.00 | naobsd | I need to make a bot which says "refer Quarx's work" :) |
| 12:11.23 | nikk | russians are smart guys ))) |
| 12:13.57 | naobsd | when I googled something about chinese tablets, I can see a lot of links to .ru forum |
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| 12:19.22 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Tanel master * rdd52381b0c03 /allwinner_a10/orders/tanelrk.mdwn: |
| 12:21.32 | naobsd | I'll leave here soon. goodnight |
| 12:28.13 | nikk | c ya! |
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| 13:45.05 | hp_ | http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/05/17/74-usd-allwinner-a10-android-4-0-mini-pc-usbhdmi-stick/ |
| 13:45.10 | hp_ | cool!!! |
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| 13:51.13 | rm | yeah ordered one |
| 13:51.30 | hp_ | rm very cool.. i might also order one.. |
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| 13:52.00 | hp_ | rm have you looked at the Tizzbird? |
| 13:52.30 | rm | you mean "Once it is available, Valueplus Tizzbird N1 might be a better option." |
| 13:52.39 | hp_ | yah |
| 13:52.51 | rm | so it is not available; and the price is unknown |
| 13:53.01 | rm | and the most important part: |
| 13:53.13 | rm | The Tizzbird N1 is powered by Telechips 8925 ARM Cortex A5 processor (TCC8925C) clocked at 800 Mhz |
| 13:53.24 | rm | so who even cares? |
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| 13:53.33 | rm | it's not Allwinner |
| 13:53.41 | hp_ | rm you might be right :) |
| 13:54.09 | hp_ | darn cnx-software is linking to wrong page on alibaba http://detail.china.alibaba.com/buyer/offerdetail/1155391800.html |
| 13:55.23 | irctc616 | has anyone got the XBMC working on the Mele A2000? |
| 13:55.40 | hp_ | http://detail.china.alibaba.com/buyer/offerdetail/1159026689.html <<-- this is a better one |
| 13:56.33 | hp_ | rm do you know if it has an english version? the MK802 |
| 13:56.59 | mnemoc | android is multilang |
| 14:01.04 | rm | alibaba is a whole-sale site anyway |
| 14:01.08 | rm | so you want aliexpress |
| 14:01.21 | rm | and sure it has english |
| 14:01.30 | hp_ | rm oh |
| 14:01.41 | hp_ | wholesale.. |
| 14:02.01 | mnemoc | iirc hipboi was going to try to sell it too |
| 14:02.07 | rm | but the moment I get it I am installing Debian (or trying to), anyways |
| 14:03.10 | mnemoc | anyone making a .deb of the kernel? |
| 14:03.28 | hp_ | mnemoc: if you tell me how i will |
| 14:03.51 | mnemoc | i don't know myself either |
| 14:04.14 | mnemoc | but as more debian fans join eventually one will know ;-) |
| 14:04.32 | hp_ | i'm going to mail Tom to see if he's selling :) |
| 14:04.51 | rm | he's got a store on aliexpress |
| 14:04.53 | hp_ | mnemoc: i got the usb -> tty debug board inhouse :) |
| 14:05.06 | hp_ | rm i know i orderd my A2000 there :) |
| 14:05.25 | hp_ | rm this usb stick is a present for my father in law |
| 14:06.53 | hno | mnemoc, interesting mail. |
| 14:07.44 | mnemoc | hno: tsvetan's? |
| 14:08.59 | hno | ye |
| 14:10.16 | mnemoc | I'm still puzzled by the problem with the a13 pins |
| 14:10.27 | hno | rm, it seems the allwinner HDMI is HDCP protected, so most DVI won't accept it. |
| 14:11.23 | hno | mnemoc, well.. the A13 is very new, and no one in sane mind routes their own DDR3 layout when there is verified layouts available. |
| 14:12.25 | hp_ | hno i have DVI on my tv and A2000 works on it |
| 14:13.09 | hno | The A10 devkit includes 2 ready to use DDR3 layouts, and I assume the A13 devkit (or whatever they have, if anything exists) includes similar layouts. |
| 14:13.29 | hno | hp_, I would guess your tv have HDCP support. |
| 14:13.39 | hp_ | hmm no idea |
| 14:13.59 | hno | HDCP works both over HDMI and DVI. |
| 14:14.06 | mnemoc | hno: I understand the datasheet can be wrong, but he also published some reference schematics... it would be crazy the schematics are off by one |
| 14:14.29 | hno | it's very easy to get schematics off by one. |
| 14:14.42 | hno | it's to the right signals but wrong pins. |
| 14:15.05 | mnemoc | but those schematics were supposed to be used for a real product |
| 14:15.09 | hp_ | rm darnit.. it doesn't ship to Taiwan... |
| 14:16.17 | rm | hp_, http://www.asiapads.com/product_info.php?products_id=2246 try here |
| 14:16.42 | rm | no prior experience with that site, just one more place selling these, that I found today |
| 14:17.16 | mnemoc | hno: it's v1.23 |
| 14:17.28 | mnemoc | hno: they can't carry such a mistake that long |
| 14:19.14 | hp_ | rm cool ! thanks |
| 14:20.04 | mnemoc | funny branding |
| 14:20.16 | traeak | hmm |
| 14:20.37 | traeak | mnemoc: so hdmi out working on 3.0.31+ ? |
| 14:21.05 | mnemoc | traeak: haven't tested myself, but the module loads :p |
| 14:21.17 | mnemoc | traeak: -v2 branch |
| 14:21.41 | traeak | yes hdmi module loads |
| 14:21.58 | traeak | wonder about 'X11' or fbdev or whatever |
| 14:21.59 | traeak | hehe |
| 14:24.35 | hp_ | mnemoc: cool so good news about the fbconn ? |
| 14:25.18 | mnemoc | hp_: nope |
| 14:25.49 | hp_ | mnemoc: oh still debugging? |
| 14:25.55 | traeak | mnemoc: 3.0.31+ has a v2 branch ? |
| 14:25.55 | traeak | ugh |
| 14:26.29 | mnemoc | allwinner-v3.0-android is a forward port from 2.6.36 |
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| 14:26.37 | mnemoc | now called 'v1' |
| 14:26.53 | mnemoc | allwinner-v3.0-android-v1 is based in the lichee3 sourcedrop |
| 14:26.55 | mnemoc | err |
| 14:26.59 | mnemoc | allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 is based in the lichee3 sourcedrop |
| 14:27.08 | traeak | and i had grabbed your tree |
| 14:27.42 | mnemoc | you can switch branches anytime, without extra downloads |
| 14:28.02 | mnemoc | allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 is the default since some day ago |
| 14:28.28 | mnemoc | hp_: haven't had time for that in a while |
| 14:28.53 | mnemoc | hp_: I'll try to resume the fbcon work this weekend |
| 14:29.15 | mnemoc | but you can try x11 for now |
| 14:29.36 | hp_ | mnemoc: do you think the android 4.0 version on the MK802 can be ported to A1000? |
| 14:29.53 | mnemoc | no sata |
| 14:30.09 | mnemoc | but possibly |
| 14:31.19 | hno | mnemoc, why would the pin numbering bug get noticed? It only matters when doing board layout, and I seriously doubt this schematics was used for DDR3 board layout. |
| 14:31.37 | mnemoc | hno: :( |
| 14:32.24 | hp_ | rm the bootsequence is hopefully the same as with a A1000 :) although no SD card reader on the thing |
| 14:33.50 | mnemoc | hp_: the tv dongle has uSD |
| 14:34.14 | hp_ | mnemoc: USB |
| 14:34.16 | hp_ | yeah |
| 14:34.21 | hp_ | so that must work |
| 14:34.24 | rm | micro SD |
| 14:34.26 | rm | not USB |
| 14:34.29 | rm | although USB too |
| 14:34.32 | hp_ | oh you are right |
| 14:34.56 | rm | mnemoc, either be a snob all the way put proper greek "mu" |
| 14:35.06 | rm | or don't confuse people with "uSD" :) |
| 14:35.11 | hp_ | Yes that would definatly work... although... if it goes wrong prolly no usb to tty..... |
| 14:35.13 | rm | and put* |
| 14:35.27 | traeak | uSD isn't confusing |
| 14:35.54 | mnemoc | μSD too fancy |
| 14:36.05 | traeak | mnemoc: that requires keyboard tricks |
| 14:36.16 | mnemoc | uSD is easy and not confusing |
| 14:36.32 | rm | <hp_> mnemoc: USB |
| 14:36.32 | rm | <hp_> yeah |
| 14:36.37 | rm | I see how it's not confusing :) |
| 14:37.12 | mnemoc | hp is low in caffeine :p |
| 14:37.39 | mnemoc | going for more for himself |
| 14:38.33 | hp_ | mnemoc: its sleepy time over here definatly |
| 14:41.28 | mnemoc | :) |
| 14:42.19 | mnemoc | 22:42, bad time for more coffee |
| 14:43.04 | hp_ | mnemoc: are we in the same timezone???? |
| 14:43.16 | mnemoc | nope, spain here |
| 14:43.42 | mnemoc | 16:43 is great time for another tasty espresso :) |
| 14:44.59 | hp_ | mnemoc: hehe |
| 14:45.36 | mnemoc | hno: anyhow, shouldn't who sold him the chips be able to find an authoritative answer without troubles? |
| 14:46.41 | hp_ | hmm thats what i like about the Melee, it has a seperate audio out.. this usb stick doesn't have that |
| 14:46.56 | hp_ | i will need to get USB boxes |
| 14:47.43 | traeak | looks like there's some jack on the usb stick |
| 14:47.52 | traeak | unless that's for composite and audio |
| 14:48.15 | traeak | the mele is pretty damn good and same cost as that usb stick |
| 14:48.54 | mnemoc | and looks good too |
| 14:49.08 | traeak | mnemoc: not so good with the case off :-p |
| 14:51.05 | mnemoc | likes how it looks naked |
| 14:52.36 | hp_ | mnemoc: ... umm is there a way how to get the usb to ttl working described somewhere? |
| 14:54.28 | hp_ | aha.. the usb side goes into the pc |
| 14:54.39 | hp_ | and the cables are hooked up to the melee.. i c |
| 14:54.45 | mnemoc | :) |
| 15:05.18 | hp_ | rm i just orderd one aswell .. via Paypal :) |
| 15:05.22 | hp_ | weeee |
| 15:05.28 | hp_ | now its really time to sleep |
| 15:06.07 | mnemoc | good night hp_ |
| 15:06.12 | rm | if you're in taiwan, can't you just take a bicycle and get to the factory directly :) |
| 15:07.10 | mnemoc | there is a pond in between |
| 15:07.20 | hp_ | rm hehe, zhenzen is near HongKong |
| 15:07.34 | hp_ | anyone try the image from cnx ? http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/05/04/xibo-digital-signage-running-on-mele-a1000-allwinner-a10-set-top-box/ |
| 15:07.44 | rm | ok, not a bicycle *looks at the map* some 750 km |
| 15:07.58 | mnemoc | hp_: I thought you were in taipei |
| 15:08.28 | mnemoc | scratches his head |
| 15:08.36 | hp_ | mnemoc: i am |
| 15:08.58 | hp_ | mnemoc: everyday i wake up and look at the Taipei 101 |
| 15:09.05 | mnemoc | nice view :) |
| 15:09.25 | mnemoc | probably even nicer by night |
| 15:09.27 | hp_ | yeah.. but i must say.. weather really is bad .. allot of rain or smog |
| 15:09.39 | hp_ | night view is also awsome |
| 15:10.00 | mnemoc | passed new year there? |
| 15:10.24 | mnemoc | the lights show and fireworks must be amazing |
| 15:10.53 | hp_ | mnemoc: yep i got it on Full HD camcorder :) |
| 15:10.56 | hp_ | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-HJxRTwnbVzo/Tyeo5-Fe6aI/AAAAAAAAA28/ITaTF4kRIn0/s1600/DSCF3489.JPG |
| 15:11.01 | hp_ | check it out mnemoc |
| 15:11.17 | mnemoc | nice :) |
| 15:11.32 | hp_ | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0eq0IMzP2DA/Tye8ypLwKSI/AAAAAAAAA40/evCPc0j1Ze4/s1600/DSCF3805.JPG |
| 15:11.40 | hp_ | this was new years eve |
| 15:12.12 | rm | hp_, you sound like a western person, do you also speak chinese? |
| 15:12.16 | mnemoc | is that fog smog or natural clouds? |
| 15:12.29 | hp_ | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-5YuaEELIaXA/Tye-ASXtL2I/AAAAAAAAA5E/XmmnQrQD7lA/s1600/DSCF3813.JPG |
| 15:12.41 | hp_ | mnemoc: a little bit of both :) |
| 15:12.52 | hp_ | rm i'm very western :) |
| 15:12.58 | hp_ | european |
| 15:13.32 | rm | so can you speak/read/write chinese? |
| 15:13.59 | hp_ | rm i had my 40 lessons of mandrin.. and thats about it |
| 15:14.32 | rm | I see |
| 15:14.56 | hp_ | i'm really off now.. |
| 15:14.59 | rm | just wanted to congratulate you on being amazingly cool if you could :) |
| 15:15.15 | rm | good night |
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| 18:32.45 | hno | mnemoc, yes probably they do have board layout for the product they are making, but may not be willing to share that. |
| 18:40.01 | mnemoc | hno: :| |
| 18:48.24 | mnemoc | wtf, allwinner a10 and that tv dongle on spain's national tv |
| 18:48.41 | MaDMaLKaV | ? |
| 18:48.44 | MaDMaLKaV | where? |
| 18:49.17 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: frontpage of rtve.es |
| 18:49.29 | mnemoc | http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20120518/mini-ordenadores-bolsillo-60-euros-unidad/528458.shtml |
| 18:50.06 | MaDMaLKaV | lol |
| 18:51.02 | MaDMaLKaV | actually is quite possible rebranded mele reachs spanish market |
| 18:51.40 | MaDMaLKaV | I have a company half convinced of doing it, but they are waiting to see if xbmc will be posible in the near future as they will prefer to sell it with linux+xbmc than android |
| 18:56.13 | mnemoc | adding libve bindings to gstreamer? |
| 18:56.41 | MaDMaLKaV | ? |
| 18:58.04 | mnemoc | what's the default code decoding library used by xbmc? I've never been very into the watching-movies thing |
| 18:58.21 | mnemoc | s/ code// |
| 18:59.38 | MaDMaLKaV | they have a lot of decoding libraries binded to their player, depending on the hardware available |
| 18:59.44 | MaDMaLKaV | iirc |
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| 19:03.11 | traeak | any instructions on getting x11 to work anywhere? or just a pipe dream? (hehe) |
| 19:05.40 | serishema | for which board? |
| 19:06.04 | serishema | traeak: actually scratch that, which arm SoC and how much ram? |
| 19:06.40 | serishema | If you are not comfortable writing display drivers you may have a problem but the vast majority of arm SoCs have something barely passable and fbdev will work.. just no hwacell obviously :) |
| 19:07.24 | traeak | mele a1000 |
| 19:07.56 | traeak | serishema: just running mnemoc's v2 kernel |
| 19:08.09 | serishema | nods |
| 19:08.17 | traeak | serishema: writing display driver would be something very new for me, probably ots of time as well |
| 19:08.18 | traeak | ugh ugh |
| 19:09.03 | serishema | I'm not actually fairmilar with what's out there.. But one of those people who given full chip specs can write a whole embedded OS from scratch in about 3 weeks. |
| 19:09.19 | serishema | So I tend to just hack something up that kinda works and then discover there is something that works better later |
| 19:09.32 | hno | traeak, instructions is in the ARM package. |
| 19:10.07 | hno | you only need to add the DDK binaries + headers to build the X11 driver. |
| 19:11.55 | traeak | "ARM package"? |
| 19:12.41 | serishema | treak: i'd just make sure fbmem = sufficent video mem for your desired res and then use driver "fbdev" in my xorg.conf |
| 19:13.04 | serishema | normally uses debian userlands since it has a decent set of precompiled everything |
| 19:13.38 | serishema | but that being a newer core than what I work with you probably don't want linux-areml you'd want the new EABI which is supposed to do hardfloat and be tons faster :) |
| 19:18.00 | Turl | serishema: debian armhf? |
| 19:18.24 | hno | traeak, well, it's a couple of packages. You find them on ARMs webpage. |
| 19:19.18 | hno | the mali DDK binaries we have is unfortunatly armel. |
| 19:20.43 | traeak | hno: thx...i guess not wiki-fied yet :-p |
| 19:27.30 | hno | traeak, not yet no. |
| 19:29.01 | hno | traeak, http://www.malideveloper.com/developer-resources/drivers/open-source-mali-gpus-linux-kernel-device-drivers.php |
| 19:30.53 | hno | we have r2p3 and r2p4 DDKs plus some earlier version. |
| 19:30.54 | traeak | looking at that right now |
| 19:31.26 | traeak | so basically i've hit the "cutting edge" |
| 19:31.46 | hno | kind of. |
| 19:33.13 | hno | r2p3 is found in the lichee bsp. r2p4 in the ubuntu image uploaded by Tom. |
| 19:35.23 | hno | traeak ^ |
| 19:35.53 | hno | this is also the same packages which can be found in the home directory on Toms Ubuntu image. |
| 19:37.07 | Turl | hno: what does 'bsp' stand for btw? I'm curious :P |
| 19:41.36 | mnemoc | board support package |
| 19:46.59 | Turl | thanks mnemoc |
| 19:47.43 | mnemoc | basically the stuff you get on a CD when buying a devkit |
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| 19:49.40 | gimli | hi |
| 19:50.26 | gimli | got the a1000 and wanted to know if there is a special trick to get internal adb working. adb doesn't wanna detect it |
| 19:53.57 | mnemoc | gimli: you need to use the OTG port, and the mele a1000 has it on the inside |
| 19:54.04 | mnemoc | err |
| 19:54.17 | mnemoc | need to learn to read |
| 19:55.59 | gimli | already connected |
| 19:56.10 | mnemoc | and works as host? |
| 19:56.18 | gimli | lsusb shows me : Bus 001 Device 026: ID 18d1:0001 Google Inc. |
| 19:57.55 | gimli | mnemoc: from which android sdk do you use adb ? |
| 19:58.12 | mnemoc | I don't use adb :< |
| 19:58.41 | mnemoc | welll... I use it for my phone, from linaro's ppa, but that's another story |
| 19:58.53 | gimli | how do i get then the a1000 boot from sd card ? |
| 19:59.08 | mnemoc | it's documented in the wiki |
| 19:59.30 | gimli | if you mean : http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_mmc_boot/# |
| 19:59.36 | gimli | doesn't work |
| 19:59.44 | mnemoc | blank the head of the card, make two partitions, inject uboot-spl and uboot in the first KBs |
| 19:59.45 | gimli | tryed two different sdcards |
| 20:00.32 | gimli | the a1000 is just stuck with the sdcards. nothing on the serial line |
| 20:00.38 | mnemoc | I can dd the first MB of mine if you like |
| 20:01.07 | gimli | would be great. can also provide the two binaries for the sd card ? |
| 20:01.37 | mnemoc | you mean uImage and script.bin? |
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| 20:02.18 | mnemoc | my uImage is just a normal sun4i_defconfig from allwinner-v3.0-android-v2 |
| 20:02.26 | hno | have an u-boot image at http://www.henriknordstrom.net/code/A10/ |
| 20:02.38 | traeak | gimli: you have the seriasl line hooked up properly?? tx/rx switched? |
| 20:02.50 | gimli | u-boot-spl-mmc.bin and u-boot.bin maybe my compiles are not good |
| 20:03.12 | mnemoc | gimli: try that image from hno |
| 20:03.17 | gimli | traeak: yes. without the sdcard i get uboot and the kernel messages |
| 20:03.23 | hno | gimli, my u-boot image is verified to boot on mele. But it's a blank image with only u-boot. No partitions, no kernel, no nothing. |
| 20:03.41 | traeak | gimli: cool...you ever got any image to boot ? |
| 20:04.00 | gimli | traeak: not so far |
| 20:04.08 | gimli | hno: i'll give your image a try |
| 20:05.04 | traeak | gimli: try the technique here:http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_image/ |
| 20:05.24 | traeak | gimli: with other people's stuff just to get a baseline for yourself |
| 20:06.13 | hno | worth noting is that my u-boot do not need a fat partition. Works fine with extX. |
| 20:06.39 | gimli | hno: just dd it to like "/dev/sdd" ? |
| 20:06.44 | hno | yes. |
| 20:08.27 | traeak | u-boot-mmc-hno-201203.img |
| 20:08.29 | traeak | dis one you mean? |
| 20:08.31 | gimli | hno: 2012.04-rc1-00156-gf451228-dirty is that yours ? |
| 20:10.05 | hno | gimli, could be. Let me check. |
| 20:10.51 | hno | U-Boot 2012.04-rc1-00156-gf451228-dirty (Apr 14 2012 - 22:01:48) Allwinner Technology |
| 20:11.21 | hno | is the version string of the u-boot binary in my image. |
| 20:11.42 | hno | should update that image with actual 2012.04 release. |
| 20:15.33 | gimli | is http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_mmc_boot/ also valid for the mele ? |
| 20:15.43 | hno | gimli, yes. |
| 20:16.14 | gimli | hm.... then it only can be my toolchain for producing the binaries |
| 20:16.25 | mnemoc | how does one see the history of those wiki pages? |
| 20:16.41 | hno | rhombus-tech? git somehow.. |
| 20:17.01 | mnemoc | narf |
| 20:19.11 | hno | http://git.hands.com/ |
| 20:19.43 | mnemoc | thanks :) |
| 20:20.31 | mnemoc | somehow I expected something in the web ui of the wiki itself |
| 20:20.42 | hno | mm.. same here. |
| 20:20.56 | gimli | hno: can you put u-boot-spl-mmc.bin and u-boot.bin on your server. wanna make the sdimage like in the wiki. so i can see if it's my binaries |
| 20:21.05 | hno | and recent changes to actually show changes and not only timestamps. |
| 20:21.26 | hno | gimli, the image worked? |
| 20:21.36 | gimli | yes. |
| 20:21.55 | gimli | my goal is to make an sdimage with my own buildroot based linux |
| 20:21.57 | hno | you have an spl + u-boot image in the ubuntu folder. |
| 20:22.07 | mnemoc | gimli: sure you didn't use your native compiler? |
| 20:22.23 | gimli | yes. i know how to crosscompile ;) |
| 20:22.32 | mnemoc | :) |
| 20:22.50 | gimli | to make it short. ii'm the one behind the raspberrypi xbmc port |
| 20:23.01 | hno | nice |
| 20:23.36 | hno | gimli, http://www.henriknordstrom.net/code/A10/hipboi-ubuntu-boot/ |
| 20:23.42 | mnemoc | welcome :) |
| 20:23.54 | gimli | thx |
| 20:24.19 | gimli | what are the other files in the folder fore ? |
| 20:25.02 | hno | that's a dump of the boot partition + u-boot from the Ubuntu image released by Tom Cubie / hipboi |
| 20:25.28 | hno | mnemoc, wanted the system.bin:s some time ago. |
| 20:26.00 | mnemoc | to test the decompiler |
| 20:26.25 | hno | it's a slightly different u-boot than you find in my image. |
| 20:26.45 | burndtjamb | are you the same gimli from the xbmc forums? |
| 20:26.51 | gimli | yes |
| 20:27.07 | burndtjamb | cool :) |
| 20:27.59 | traeak | gimli: i didn't cross compile, i went through the pain of using hte mele to compile its own kernel :-p |
| 20:28.18 | hno | traeak, 20 hours? |
| 20:28.38 | hno | guesses |
| 20:28.43 | gimli | traeak: ouch |
| 20:29.12 | mnemoc | the a10 kernel is quite small... it shouldn't take more than a couple of hours... |
| 20:29.50 | traeak | hno: hell no... |
| 20:30.14 | traeak | hno just kernel, at most an hour, but i had to bug fix some of the kernel code....errors with gcc-4.7 |
| 20:30.33 | traeak | hno: and i have a day job...i do mostly physics type stuff :-p |
| 21:29.22 | gimli | getting this message on kernel compile : make CONFIG_DEBUG_SECTION_MISMATCH=y |
| 21:31.13 | Turl | gimli: I thought most of those, if not all, were fixed already :P |
| 21:31.31 | Turl | (on mnemoc's tree, not sure what are you using) |
| 21:31.50 | gimli | using the kernel from this wiki page : http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_mmc_boot/ |
| 21:32.17 | Turl | ah, that's the .36 kernel |
| 21:32.34 | Turl | I was talking about the 3.0.x one |
| 21:32.42 | Turl | gimli: in any case, that's just a warning |
| 21:34.46 | gimli | right now i'm stuck at the last point. u-boot and that script.bin. |
| 21:42.23 | mnemoc | gimli: iirc hno's uboot already has the env configured to load script.bin |
| 21:43.30 | gimli | how to do it if i how to generate script.bin ? |
| 21:44.03 | mnemoc | gimli: you have to use the one comming with your device |
| 21:44.25 | mnemoc | gimli: script.bin is a sort of device tree, describing the board |
| 21:44.42 | gimli | how to get it off the device ? |
| 21:44.54 | mnemoc | it's in the nanda partition |
| 21:45.45 | gimli | how to get it from the nanda onto the sdcard ? |
| 21:45.56 | mnemoc | https://github.com/amery/sunxi-bin-archive/blob/master/mele-a1000/stock-nanda/script.bin |
| 21:46.28 | gimli | thx |
| 21:47.18 | mnemoc | gimli: you should use the kernel tree in that github too |
| 21:47.57 | gimli | at the moment it's hard to decide which kernel tree. there ar simple to many for the device |
| 21:48.08 | hno | Imported mksunxiboot into my u-boot tree. |
| 21:49.14 | hno | gimli, https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner/wiki |
| 21:49.44 | hno | mnemoc, twice today :) |
| 21:49.51 | mnemoc | :D |
| 21:51.08 | gimli | hno: to many tree. which one is the completest one from the driver side ? |
| 21:51.34 | mnemoc | the first of the list, which is also the default when you clone it |
| 21:52.01 | gimli | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_mmc_boot/ should be changed |
| 21:52.01 | mnemoc | and marked as preferred in capital bold letters :) |
| 21:52.12 | mnemoc | gimli: it's a wiki, go ahead |
| 21:53.11 | gimli | mnemoc: as long as i do not have a self compiled system i'm not able to anything on that wiki |
| 21:55.17 | hno | the mmx boot page suddently needs a major rewrite. Much simplified now. |
| 21:55.23 | hno | s/x/c/ |
| 21:56.35 | Turl | heh awesome ibot feature :) I need to implement that on my bot |
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| 23:15.53 | gimli | which default config i should use for kernel 3.0 ? |
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| 23:22.39 | gimli | strange. i can't get any compiled kernel to boot. http://pastebin.com/PdCfkZHt |
| 23:23.28 | gimli | after "Starting kernel ..." nothing more comes on serial. using the default kernel config "arch/arm/configs/sun4i_defconfig" |
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| 23:51.28 | hno | gimli, do you have the right script.bin loaded at 0x43000000? |
| 23:51.52 | hno | and reasonable kernel parameters? |
