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| 16:00.53 | steev_ | rz2k: i'll give it a shot |
| 16:02.25 | steev_ | eventually, wtf is up with dropbox |
| 16:05.57 | zenitraM | works here |
| 16:06.44 | rz2k | looks like I've killed my ly-f1 or something |
| 16:07.06 | rz2k | livesuit doesnt just hangs up on flashing |
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| 17:29.14 | steev_ | rz2k: ah, this .img is to be pushed via livesuite? |
| 17:29.26 | steev_ | figured it would work by imaging to microsd and inserting |
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| 17:34.47 | mnemoc | steev_: there is a win tool called phoenixcard that turns an SD+img into a self reflashing card |
| 17:35.14 | rz2k | btw it doesnt work with any of my sd cards |
| 17:35.20 | steev_ | mnemoc: i more meant that it would boot off the sdcard |
| 17:35.30 | steev_ | as in, NOT overwrite what i have on nand |
| 17:35.48 | rz2k | first card fails on mbr flash, second one flashes everything up to bootfs then fails like first one |
| 17:36.17 | mnemoc | uh |
| 17:36.33 | rz2k | also I've got my ly-f1 back to livesuit with win xp computer and 30 and 31 contacts of NAND crossed |
| 17:37.22 | rz2k | (that method is from guys who hack ereaders on allwinner/boxchip/socorp processors) |
| 17:39.10 | steev_ | yeah my issue is that i don't have a winbox nearby |
| 17:39.36 | steev_ | i just don't get why companies build on linux but then turn to windows to flash it |
| 17:41.39 | steev_ | blah, ok |
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| 17:46.05 | t0dbld|work | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:46.42 | steev_ | t0dbld|work: i'm biased as i'm a gentoo dev (spare time), kernel hacker and distro specialist (work time) |
| 17:47.00 | t0dbld|work | haha |
| 17:47.07 | t0dbld|work | about smae |
| 17:47.19 | t0dbld|work | although i spend most time on android these days |
| 17:48.02 | t0dbld|work | steev_: you have one of these arm-netbooks with the a10 ? |
| 17:48.05 | t0dbld|work | and mali ? |
| 17:48.36 | steev_ | t0dbld|work: naw |
| 17:49.13 | steev_ | i have a netbook with an mx51, a mx53 board, an mx53 qsb, 2 trimslices (one dev-kit, one pro), an mx6q dev board |
| 17:49.31 | steev_ | i'd like a netbook with the a10 in it |
| 17:49.35 | t0dbld|work | ahh damn wanted some one to rip me some drivers out of it , im trying to port gentoo on a a10 tab as we speak |
| 17:49.52 | steev_ | but the only one i've seen, the case looks like something a 5 year old designed |
| 17:50.22 | steev_ | i like functionality, but i also like form |
| 17:50.34 | t0dbld|work | was worth a shot , being the channel name and all :-p |
| 17:51.05 | steev_ | http://www.genesi-usa.com/products/smartbook is what i have (disclaimer: i'm a genesi employee) |
| 17:51.27 | steev_ | other disclaimer is that i have a 1280x720 screen in mine |
| 17:51.39 | steev_ | rather than the crappy 1024x600 which i find almost unusable |
| 17:51.55 | t0dbld|work | gotcha |
| 17:52.06 | steev_ | sure the lcd cost me almost as much as the machine, but imo, it's worth it, and i'm willing to put my money where my mouth is |
| 17:52.18 | t0dbld|work | what gpu does that use ? |
| 17:52.21 | steev_ | unfortunately, there are a lot of people out there who say "i'd totally pay for..." that won't |
| 17:52.40 | steev_ | it's an imageon (adreno); z430 3d, z160 2d |
| 17:53.06 | t0dbld|work | ahh |
| 17:53.35 | steev_ | but it's from prior to qualcomm buying the amd mobile unit |
| 17:53.44 | steev_ | so qualcomm uses a z180/z430 |
| 17:54.12 | steev_ | but it also means i don't get to work on freedreno, just watch excitedly from the sidelines |
| 17:55.33 | mnemoc | steev_: tried asking your employer to sell 1280x720 options? |
| 17:56.00 | steev_ | we don't have the stock to make it worth it presently |
| 17:56.10 | steev_ | and we're currently working on some non-consumer related hardware |
| 18:04.53 | mnemoc | yours is the only netbook chassis I like... |
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| 18:11.33 | hno | hi |
| 18:12.11 | mnemoc | wb hno |
| 18:19.10 | hno | thanks. |
| 18:45.15 | rz2k | omg how many ly-f1 debug stuff has on back side of mobo |
| 18:46.12 | rz2k | uboot tx, another rx/tx, something that looks like jtag, even nand is broken out. |
| 18:47.09 | hno | rz2k, can you provide a picture? |
| 18:47.53 | rz2k | my camera is bad on macro, but I try |
| 18:58.42 | rz2k | hno: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1096320/foto/IMG_0740.JPG |
| 18:59.00 | rz2k | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1096320/foto/IMG_0747.JPG |
| 18:59.15 | rz2k | http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1096320/foto/IMG_0748.JPG |
| 19:11.01 | hno | UBOOT is probably USB-BOOT (FEL) based on that it's just next to the switch. |
| 19:13.38 | hno | or have you verified that it's serial? |
| 19:13.41 | hno | rz2k? |
| 19:14.44 | rz2k | nope, I didnt |
| 19:14.57 | rz2k | just guess |
| 19:15.54 | hno | any visible traces? |
| 19:16.48 | rz2k | many blind vias, its 4+ layer board |
| 19:16.57 | rz2k | like any other board with ddr |
| 19:18.36 | rz2k | I'll hook up my usbee dx clone there to check soon. |
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| 19:45.29 | hno | rz2k, a multimeter should work just fine to check if it's the button. |
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| 20:47.40 | mnemoc | hno: do you still see possible to migrate sun4i to devicetree? |
| 20:48.42 | mnemoc | I'm quite confused about how to deal with devices normally static (uarts, mmc, ...) but highly dynamic in sun4i |
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| 21:43.28 | steev_ | isn't there an optional flag in dt? |
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| 21:44.28 | steev_ | no there isn't |
| 21:44.40 | steev_ | mnemoc: remind me what the dynamic nature is? |
| 21:44.45 | steev_ | i read it on the wiki but can't find |
| 21:46.30 | steev_ | you can't with flattened device tree, but you can with some sort of forth script |
| 21:48.23 | steev_ | or you'd have 2 different device trees, one with uart/sd(?) one with sd disabled |
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| 21:57.07 | mnemoc | steev_: https://www.box.com/s/7792e05ff8167307b0d7 .... basically (almost) every pin can have different usages, currently defined in the script.bin file |
| 21:58.36 | mnemoc | my idea was to write a fex2dts compiler... but I have no clue how to model it :p |
| 21:59.33 | mnemoc | and then try to migrate the drivers accordingly |
| 21:59.58 | mnemoc | I didn't know dt was scriptable using forth |
| 22:01.31 | mnemoc | going to sleep now, please think about it, any help is highly appreciated :) |
| 22:01.36 | mnemoc | good night |
| 22:10.16 | hno | mnemoc, from what I can tell devicetree fits nicely. But have not attempted it yet. |
| 22:12.34 | hno | attributes needs to be added for the pin configuration details, and changing drivers to query there instead of script.bin. |
| 22:13.20 | hno | it's not really dynamic when looking at one device. Only gets dynamic if we need to account for I/O board properties. |
| 22:14.51 | hno | but lets ignore dynamic I/O board configuration for now and assume static EOMA pin configuration. |
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