| 00:04.30 | mnemoc | dd? |
| 00:05.36 | mnemoc | save the env to a file, edit, write it back.... |
| 00:06.08 | Faqtotum | edit how? |
| 00:06.25 | mnemoc | afaik it's plain text |
| 00:07.30 | mnemoc | but you need to know where the env is stored |
| 00:07.40 | mnemoc | going to sleep. good luck |
| 00:08.02 | Faqtotum | no |
| 00:08.05 | Faqtotum | there is a crc |
| 00:10.52 | mnemoc | i don't know much about uboot. what happens if the crc doesn't validate? if it ignores it, the values you set in the source will be used... |
| 00:11.37 | mnemoc | anyhow, good night |
| 02:11.29 | Faqtotum | anyone awake? i get output from uboot, but it doesn't respond to keystrokes |
| 02:12.58 | Faqtotum | zenitraM: ^ |
| 02:18.09 | Faqtotum | zenitraM: are you there? |
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| 02:52.23 | Faqtotum | hello |
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| 02:53.49 | Faqtotum | hello |
| 02:59.52 | QingPei | hello |
| 03:00.37 | Faqtotum | QingPei: don't suppose you know anything about working with the allwinner a10... |
| 03:01.21 | QingPei | yeah, i am a fresh guy here~~~ |
| 03:01.55 | Faqtotum | it doesn't respond to keystrokes on serial |
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| 04:08.52 | A1Sheds | http://www.anandtech.com/show/5789/the-ipad-24-review-32nm-a5-tested/1 |
| 04:19.11 | Faqtotum | bbl |
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| 10:59.48 | penguin42 | lkml: Seen the thread on lkml/lakl about modular boards? |
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| 13:26.57 | MaDMaLKaV | hi all. |
| 13:27.12 | MaDMaLKaV | another day without news on the 3.0.8 kernel or the video decoder licenses :( |
| 13:44.09 | mnemoc | I have a bad feeling about both |
| 13:45.04 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Haris master * r4e7b1d624997 /allwinner_a10/orders/homebrew.mdwn: |
| 13:45.35 | zenitraM | tom was getting married, that might have something to do... |
| 13:45.52 | penguin42 | MaDMaLKaV: If there is a working 2.6.36 with source I'd assume a 3.x can be made to work - someone just needs to start walking it forward |
| 13:46.07 | specing | Oh yet, its May now |
| 13:46.11 | specing | yes* |
| 13:46.30 | specing | Or does the chinese april have 100 days? |
| 13:47.27 | mnemoc | penguin42: you are welcomed to help making https://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner's allwinner-v3.0-android functional enough for users ... that is based on the released 2.6.36 sources |
| 13:47.48 | penguin42 | mnemoc: I don't have a board yet |
| 13:48.15 | penguin42 | put his name down for this really cool A10 board .... |
| 13:49.06 | mnemoc | penguin42: no mele? |
| 13:50.11 | penguin42 | no |
| 13:54.31 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: Haris master * r0f7815801e3f /allwinner_a10/orders/homebrew.mdwn: Add Note to negate empty PCB output |
| 13:56.32 | penguin42 | mnemoc: There was some hope that the EOMA board would land at the end of March, but hey these things always slip |
| 13:57.04 | MaDMaLKaV | I suspect chinese SoC makers found Tom was somewhat fond on opensource and they took measures |
| 13:57.08 | MaDMaLKaV | j/k , of course |
| 13:57.45 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: It may not be that far from truth |
| 13:58.10 | MaDMaLKaV | :) |
| 13:58.31 | mnemoc | MaDMaLKaV: they could perfectly have "asked" him to stop these problematic relations |
| 13:59.07 | MaDMaLKaV | so problematic, they can get their products to both complain the law and get them customers out of their country... |
| 13:59.54 | MaDMaLKaV | if this thing was already running a 3.0+ kernel with decent gpu acceleration and video decoding I could have got some people to distribute it here. I just can't understand that chinese actitude about gpl |
| 14:00.14 | MaDMaLKaV | but, well, it is groundhog day all over again |
| 14:00.27 | MaDMaLKaV | we talking about gpl and chinese factories ignoring it |
| 14:03.52 | Xlab | what's wrong with video decoder? |
| 14:04.55 | Xlab | i saw mali400 drm sources freely availbale + xf86 module |
| 14:05.11 | mnemoc | mali != video decoder |
| 14:06.09 | vgrade | Xlab , and there is not a full stack avaiable, no libEGL , libGLES |
| 14:06.31 | mnemoc | again, nothing to do with the video decoder |
| 14:06.51 | MaDMaLKaV | and no hf module, the only one avialable is the one on the latest linaro release but it is only lcensed to be used on snowball hardware |
| 14:08.39 | Xlab | and `libve` isn't relevant to video decoding? |
| 14:08.58 | mnemoc | Xlab: that one is, yes |
| 14:09.12 | MaDMaLKaV | not as much as the integrated video decoding engine on the a10 that supports a lot of formats including 3d video |
| 14:09.30 | Xlab | :( |
| 14:09.40 | penguin42 | let me understand the video decoder issue; if I understand there is a binary blob with an API definition and no license? |
| 14:10.23 | penguin42 | so - it should be reverse engineerable? |
| 14:10.56 | mnemoc | libve is a binary-only library of around 800k using /dev/cedar_dev to access the video decoder on hardware |
| 14:11.43 | mnemoc | it's unclear if the usage of this library is subject to royalties and also unclear if they actually paid the royalties for the algos implemented in the chip |
| 14:11.46 | Xlab | but we have sources of libvecore, haven't we? |
| 14:11.50 | penguin42 | mnemoc: Do we have the driver for /dev/cedar_dev ? |
| 14:12.07 | mnemoc | Xlab: no, only sample client code and the library in .a |
| 14:12.35 | mnemoc | penguin42: yes, it's in the kernel tree... very simple dma/mmap/ioctl layers as all binary drivers user |
| 14:12.38 | mnemoc | use* |
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| 14:12.46 | Xlab | Ah |
| 14:12.52 | penguin42 | mnemoc: So, should be possible to reverse engineer the binary blob then |
| 14:12.53 | Xlab | There is some .h around .a |
| 14:12.58 | Xlab | No sources :( |
| 14:13.28 | mnemoc | penguin42: yes, it can be reversed... i doubt the library itself is complex |
| 14:13.43 | mnemoc | after all it's less than 1M |
| 14:13.54 | penguin42 | mnemoc: It's probably easier to reverse eng than to juice the lawyers into submission |
| 14:14.16 | mnemoc | penguin42: yes |
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| 14:16.01 | Xlab | Even the A10 Developing Kit haven't the sources? |
| 14:16.25 | DonkeyHotei | oh joy, A10 discussion again? |
| 14:16.26 | mnemoc | Xlab: the devkit comes with the "client code" I pushed to github |
| 14:17.12 | mnemoc | Xlab: two .pdf files of documentation, some .h, some example apps and the .a |
| 14:17.36 | penguin42 | mnemoc: Frankly, that's luxury! Documentation! Almost unheard of! |
| 14:17.46 | mnemoc | penguin42: in chinese :) |
| 14:17.53 | penguin42 | mnemoc: That's what google translate is for :-) |
| 14:19.02 | Xlab | >oh joy, A10 discussion again? |
| 14:19.15 | Xlab | Sorry, i'm new here. Just waiting for my Novo7 Elf |
| 14:19.40 | DonkeyHotei | i waited last night for people to wake up, gave up |
| 14:20.23 | DonkeyHotei | using the microsd serial console, i get output, but no response to keystrokes |
| 14:23.07 | rz2k | mnemoc: but check out list of docs here http://www.wits-tech.com/pages/board-en.jsp |
| 14:23.24 | rz2k | that would be awesome if we get them |
| 14:24.57 | mnemoc | rz2k: we only have what ainol leaked long ago |
| 14:25.22 | rz2k | anyone tried to email wits tech? |
| 14:25.39 | mnemoc | rz2k: the other way is to wire transfer them US$1000 for the kit and provide a DHL customer code |
| 14:27.00 | mnemoc | rz2k: try Nicole <Nicole.zou@wits-tech.com> and eva.wu@allwinnertech.com |
| 14:27.18 | rz2k | on some forum I saw $18k for this kit + support files |
| 14:27.43 | rz2k | thats managers probably, we need inside geek's contacts :3 |
| 14:28.31 | mnemoc | they are who replied my mails when I was going to buy a kit |
| 14:28.51 | Xlab | >anyone tried to email wits tech? |
| 14:28.52 | mnemoc | including a quote |
| 14:28.54 | Xlab | I tried |
| 14:29.00 | rz2k | sometime ago I was involved in project of starting linux on video-in-print cards with Ingenic MIPS processors, we got programming manual and full datasheet in a week |
| 14:29.14 | penguin42 | video-in-print? |
| 14:29.14 | Xlab | hope the $18k price was in chienese dollars, not USD |
| 14:30.04 | rz2k | penguin42: Americhip Video-in-Print distributed at various magazines |
| 14:30.10 | zenitraM | DonkeyHotei: check the connections and that you are using the correct pin for tx on the sd |
| 14:30.18 | rz2k | and other advertising stuff |
| 14:30.32 | Xlab | http://habrahabr.ru/post/108921/ great photos of that, |
| 14:30.35 | penguin42 | rz2k: Oh, I've never seen one of those |
| 14:30.37 | rz2k | runs linux pretty well |
| 14:30.49 | rz2k | its jz4725b based |
| 14:30.51 | rz2k | 32mb ram |
| 14:30.58 | rz2k | 4layer board |
| 14:31.00 | penguin42 | nice |
| 14:31.37 | penguin42 | that's making my Indy feel sad :-) |
| 14:32.12 | zenitraM | ..and how much does one of those magazines cost? |
| 14:32.33 | rz2k | it was at regular price |
| 14:32.53 | rz2k | company who wants to be advertized pays for it |
| 14:33.03 | rz2k | not a magazine itself :3 |
| 14:38.01 | DonkeyHotei | zenitraM: at first i got nothing, but then i realized the elinux page had rx and tx backwards. now i get output but no response. i doublechecked the pinout |
| 14:38.49 | DonkeyHotei | i suspect it might have something to do with the sys_config1.fex being in a different format |
| 14:39.33 | zenitraM | shortcircuiting the dongle rx and tx works? (looping back what you write) |
| 14:39.54 | zenitraM | that doesn't mind, the .fex is compiled to the .bin and the format is lost |
| 14:40.10 | zenitraM | s/mind/matter/ |
| 14:41.32 | DonkeyHotei | zenitraM: what do you mean "works" ? |
| 14:41.51 | DonkeyHotei | and why would the format be lost? |
| 14:42.05 | zenitraM | what do you mean with being in a different format? |
| 14:42.27 | DonkeyHotei | the bin2fex preserves the different format |
| 14:42.54 | DonkeyHotei | i mean the elinux page lists the pin specs as "port:PB22<2>" |
| 14:43.17 | mnemoc | the compiler can survive the lack of <default> bytes |
| 14:43.30 | mnemoc | ints actually |
| 14:43.35 | DonkeyHotei | the stock fex has something like "port:PB22<2><1><default><default>" |
| 14:43.59 | DonkeyHotei | what do the <2> and the <1> do? |
| 14:44.17 | zenitraM | i.. don't know. but try adding them, it should do no harm |
| 14:44.37 | DonkeyHotei | i simply changed the 2 to 4 and left the 1 |
| 14:44.38 | mnemoc | "port:PB22<2>" is equivalent to "port:PB22<2><default><default><default>" |
| 14:44.49 | DonkeyHotei | mnemoc: but what about the <1> ? |
| 14:45.25 | mnemoc | that is called mul_sel in the gpio data struct |
| 14:45.27 | DonkeyHotei | and what do those ints mean? |
| 14:45.51 | mnemoc | the populate a data structure used later by the kernel drivers |
| 14:46.00 | DonkeyHotei | what .h file defines those? |
| 14:46.47 | mnemoc | look at arm/arm/mach-sun4i/pin/* and include/mach/script*.h |
| 14:47.00 | DonkeyHotei | in the kernel, or in u-boot? |
| 14:47.04 | mnemoc | kernel |
| 14:54.33 | DonkeyHotei | i can't find any include/mach/script*.h |
| 14:55.06 | DonkeyHotei | nvm, found |
| 14:55.08 | mnemoc | include/mach are inside arm/arm/mach-foo |
| 14:57.30 | DonkeyHotei | so, the <2> and the <4> are the mul_sel, and the <1> is pull? |
| 14:58.01 | DonkeyHotei | what are the possible values of mul_sel? |
| 14:58.10 | mnemoc | check the driver |
| 14:58.22 | DonkeyHotei | which driver is it? |
| 14:59.02 | mnemoc | grep to see who calls the functions for the id you are tracing |
| 14:59.37 | DonkeyHotei | id? |
| 15:00.01 | mnemoc | the foo in foo == port:P... |
| 15:00.08 | mnemoc | the foo in foo = port:P... |
| 15:01.06 | DonkeyHotei | ok |
| 15:12.21 | DonkeyHotei | waits for git clone git://github.com/amery/linux-allwinner.git |
| 15:13.40 | mnemoc | it can save you some time to copy the .git of another clone of a linux repo you may have locally |
| 15:14.03 | DonkeyHotei | i don't think i have one with sun4i |
| 15:14.11 | mnemoc | doesn't matter |
| 15:14.34 | mnemoc | most commits are from the mainline linux anyway |
| 15:14.50 | mnemoc | you add the extra remote and only the delta will be downloaded |
| 15:15.07 | DonkeyHotei | all this for a simple grep+ |
| 15:16.02 | DonkeyHotei | lxr would be nice right about now |
| 15:16.04 | mnemoc | might be a first step toward helping to fix our 3.0 tree |
| 15:16.31 | DonkeyHotei | what might? |
| 15:16.42 | mnemoc | you cloning the repo |
| 15:17.05 | DonkeyHotei | i'm cloning it into /tmp, btw |
| 15:17.10 | mnemoc | :( |
| 15:17.19 | DonkeyHotei | i won't need it on this machine |
| 15:18.16 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: nicholas_toka master * raa9ee9f541e8 /allwinner_a10/orders/nickotoka.mdwn: |
| 15:19.37 | DonkeyHotei | it's now downloading |
| 15:19.55 | DonkeyHotei | after it does, i can grep like you said, then delete it |
| 15:20.21 | DonkeyHotei | PITA |
| 15:29.45 | mnemoc | it's up to you to make the checkout worthy ;-) |
| 15:33.03 | rz2k | [19:16:06] <DonkeyHotei> lxr would be nice right about now |
| 15:33.07 | rz2k | thats an idea |
| 15:33.36 | rz2k | lxr with sun4i stuff would be awesome |
| 15:36.43 | zenitraM | DonkeyHotei: i've been looking around for a bit more |
| 15:36.47 | zenitraM | and it seems to me that |
| 15:36.52 | zenitraM | script.bin isn't even used by u-boot |
| 15:36.59 | zenitraM | http://git.hands.com/?p=u-boot.git;a=blobdiff;f=arch/arm/cpu/armv7/sunxi/board.c;h=6db17db9cdcedec187576efc23b76e45cf8ee97c;hp=725aa7557825c67c9c0e8595a34b101ea4df5293;hb=f501a2cfd78fc65eed26c408159acef7e8f1a9b9;hpb=bacac0506e7b3a31e546050acc2a25c0cb0e8fbe |
| 15:37.13 | zenitraM | here it just sets the tx and rx to PF2 and PF4 |
| 15:38.52 | DonkeyHotei | well, i get no response on serial from the android kernel, either |
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| 15:53.23 | DonkeyHotei | zenitraM: have you booted stock ics kernels with serial over sd in place? |
| 15:53.44 | zenitraM | DonkeyHotei: yes, i have |
| 15:53.45 | zenitraM | they work |
| 15:54.10 | DonkeyHotei | what do they do when you type? |
| 15:54.25 | zenitraM | when they have booted |
| 15:54.31 | zenitraM | there's a busybox listening for what you type |
| 15:54.36 | DonkeyHotei | hmm |
| 15:54.50 | DonkeyHotei | well, i get no response from busybox or uboot |
| 15:55.04 | DonkeyHotei | why is this? |
| 15:55.26 | zenitraM | probably some kind of trouble with the connection |
| 15:55.38 | DonkeyHotei | the physical connection? |
| 15:55.55 | zenitraM | have you tried what i told you before? unplug everything, plug tx to rx on your computer's adapter, and write something and see if you get it back |
| 15:55.58 | zenitraM | yes |
| 15:56.23 | DonkeyHotei | what do you mean "your computer's adapter" ? |
| 15:56.36 | DonkeyHotei | i thought you meant wiring the sd to itself |
| 15:57.10 | zenitraM | no, i meant your computer to itself |
| 15:57.26 | DonkeyHotei | what would that prove? i already know it works |
| 15:57.45 | zenitraM | okay, then it's not because of that |
| 15:57.46 | zenitraM | mmm |
| 15:57.56 | DonkeyHotei | i plug the same lvttl serial to a router, works fine |
| 15:58.21 | zenitraM | idk, make sure you're connecting it to the correct pin of the sd |
| 15:58.22 | DonkeyHotei | just the tablet has one-way communication |
| 15:58.53 | DonkeyHotei | i'm using the one labeled CLK on the sparkfun board; is it mislabeled? |
| 15:59.23 | rz2k | clk is clock source usually. |
| 15:59.52 | zenitraM | i had it like this: http://imgur.com/a/qkbFA |
| 16:01.03 | DonkeyHotei | same as me, except with vcc connected to power the adapter |
| 16:02.28 | zenitraM | mm.. i don't know :S check for continuity between that pin and the one on the SD side of the adapter |
| 16:02.50 | zenitraM | if receiving from the tablet works, sending should work also |
| 16:03.29 | DonkeyHotei | i tried two different sparkfun adapters |
| 16:03.33 | DonkeyHotei | same result |
| 16:03.54 | DonkeyHotei | i got three of them and soldered headers to two of them |
| 16:04.03 | zenitraM | did you disable the sd too? |
| 16:04.08 | DonkeyHotei | one of them does not pass sd, though |
| 16:04.17 | zenitraM | well, that shouldn't matter on uboot |
| 16:04.17 | DonkeyHotei | not sure why |
| 16:05.21 | DonkeyHotei | it's gotta be something software-related on the tablet end |
| 16:05.52 | DonkeyHotei | if i unplug the CLK pin with minicom running, it floats |
| 16:07.14 | zenitraM | CLK is... RX or TX? (from the tablet) |
| 16:07.40 | DonkeyHotei | clk is rx |
| 16:07.49 | zenitraM | rx from which side? |
| 16:08.00 | DonkeyHotei | that is, from computer to tablet |
| 16:09.00 | zenitraM | then it's the tablet's TX, right? |
| 16:09.52 | DonkeyHotei | no |
| 16:09.58 | DonkeyHotei | it's the tablet's rx |
| 16:10.06 | DonkeyHotei | the tablet receives on it |
| 16:10.09 | DonkeyHotei | so rx |
| 16:10.36 | DonkeyHotei | from computer (tx) to tablet (rx) |
| 16:10.47 | zenitraM | okay, (i always get confused with both sides) |
| 16:10.49 | zenitraM | but |
| 16:10.56 | zenitraM | if the tablet receives on the clk pin... |
| 16:11.11 | zenitraM | what floats when you unplug it? you see garbage on minicom? |
| 16:11.15 | DonkeyHotei | yes |
| 16:11.43 | DonkeyHotei | the usb uart does not like when either tx or rx floats |
| 16:12.16 | DonkeyHotei | so clearly, the pin has continuity |
| 16:12.32 | zenitraM | mmm my usb uart didn't care |
| 16:13.12 | zenitraM | and by seeing my pictures... |
| 16:14.24 | DonkeyHotei | keep in mind that i an using a 12V/3.3V converter on a DB-9 usb uart |
| 16:14.50 | DonkeyHotei | s/an /am / |
| 16:14.53 | zenitraM | that could be |
| 16:16.07 | zenitraM | but.. if i remember correctly |
| 16:16.31 | zenitraM | the order of the pins on my dongle was: GND, RXD, TXD where RXD = rx of device |
| 16:16.54 | zenitraM | (the prints are reversed so you only have to take reference from the device) |
| 16:17.07 | zenitraM | and I have RXD.. to CD |
| 16:17.15 | zenitraM | and TXD.. to CLK |
| 16:18.05 | DonkeyHotei | well, the one labeled CD is _definitely_ tx |
| 16:18.25 | DonkeyHotei | CD is the only way i get output from the tablet |
| 16:18.38 | zenitraM | okay then |
| 16:18.47 | zenitraM | then.. i don't know |
| 16:19.10 | zenitraM | you could try taking as reference the other mmc pins that are on script.bin |
| 16:19.23 | zenitraM | and setting the tablet's RX to other different port |
| 16:19.43 | zenitraM | that would work on android. on u-boot you would have to change the code |
| 16:20.49 | DonkeyHotei | right, but there has to be some reason it doesn't work |
| 16:22.07 | zenitraM | i don't know.. |
| 16:41.46 | DonkeyHotei | zenitraM: has anyone in this channel besides you attempted the sd console on a tablet? |
| 16:43.29 | zenitraM | DonkeyHotei: i'm not sure |
| 17:26.20 | mnemoc | i think steev and specing have |
| 17:40.54 | DonkeyHotei | steev_, specing: ping? |
| 17:41.27 | specing | yo |
| 17:41.35 | DonkeyHotei | read up |
| 17:42.05 | specing | Nope, and I am not even going to |
| 17:42.18 | DonkeyHotei | going to what? |
| 17:42.21 | specing | I plan on using the vibra motor's output as a TX line |
| 17:42.27 | DonkeyHotei | oh |
| 17:42.35 | mnemoc | hardcore :) |
| 17:42.46 | specing | I might find a RX somewhere in the future |
| 17:42.59 | DonkeyHotei | i don't see the point in doing it that way |
| 17:43.16 | specing | Well I see it: Im trying to boot Gentoo on a SD card |
| 17:43.33 | DonkeyHotei | if you're gonna do internal soldering anyway, might as well just use the uart header |
| 17:44.02 | specing | If it had one... |
| 17:44.12 | DonkeyHotei | not exposed? |
| 17:44.48 | specing | https://93.103.140.50/A10-MID/hardware/ |
| 17:45.00 | specing | Doesen't look like it |
| 17:45.33 | specing | There are two unpopulated connectors, one 8 pin (mmc2?) and one 4 pin labeled "HOME" |
| 17:45.36 | DonkeyHotei | https? |
| 17:45.51 | specing | Problem? |
| 17:48.11 | DonkeyHotei | certificates issued to "localhost" are silly |
| 17:48.31 | mnemoc | in the mele there are 3 4-pin things: the uart, an unpopulated labeled "R13MIC4" and another unpopulated labeled...CVBS-IN4 |
| 17:49.25 | DonkeyHotei | the sys_config1.fex says "A10-EVB" |
| 17:54.02 | specing | DonkeyHotei: yes, because I spent 0s on certificates |
| 17:54.11 | specing | Its not like Im a bank |
| 17:54.22 | mnemoc | specing: cacert.org ;-) |
| 17:54.27 | DonkeyHotei | why bother with https at all is what i meant |
| 17:54.55 | mnemoc | even with bad certs you get encryption |
| 17:54.58 | specing | Because some people(me included) don't like everyone to see what Im browsing through |
| 17:55.29 | DonkeyHotei | so "everyone" sniffs "localhost" then? |
| 17:55.34 | zenitraM | CVBS-IN = composite video in? |
| 17:55.43 | DonkeyHotei | zenitraM: yes |
| 17:55.50 | mnemoc | zenitraM: smells like it |
| 17:56.02 | zenitraM | the a10 has video-in.. yet nobody has bothered on using it as a sort-of PVR? |
| 17:56.12 | DonkeyHotei | but some sites say resistors are missing that would make it work |
| 17:56.29 | zenitraM | (nobody as in, chinese manufacturers) |
| 17:56.42 | zenitraM | oh well.. |
| 17:56.48 | DonkeyHotei | the mele looks like it might make a decent mythtv frontend, but mythtv sucks |
| 17:57.04 | mnemoc | zenitraM: cedar has h264 encoder |
| 17:58.14 | DonkeyHotei | funny how it has composite and hdmi but nothing in between, e.g. s-video, component, dvi |
| 17:58.14 | zenitraM | i tried to use the mele as a mythtv frontend using an android frontend i found |
| 17:58.16 | zenitraM | didn't work |
| 17:58.44 | specing | Note: there is an another header (I think) on the back of the board, below the lcd lines; But my phone was bricked then and I had to photograph it with a nokia and now Im waiting inspiration to dismantle it again |
| 17:58.45 | DonkeyHotei | "mythtv frontend using an android frontend" wtf |
| 17:59.13 | zenitraM | an android mythtv frontend i meant |
| 17:59.25 | zenitraM | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.tinelin.android |
| 18:00.07 | DonkeyHotei | i meant by running gnu/linux on it |
| 18:00.45 | zenitraM | i know, i know.. but we'd need proper/open video decoding support for that |
| 18:01.26 | DonkeyHotei | i didn't mean right this minute |
| 18:01.33 | zenitraM | in android the accelerated player doesn't seem to like DVB-over-HTTP MPEG2 streams... |
| 18:01.54 | zenitraM | i know, we'll have to wait :) xbmc would be great though |
| 18:02.15 | DonkeyHotei | it seems ill-suited to xbmc |
| 18:02.33 | DonkeyHotei | xbmc relies on a local media library afaik |
| 18:02.45 | rz2k | xbmc needs ogl |
| 18:02.59 | zenitraM | that's what the sata on the mele is for.. |
| 18:03.23 | zenitraM | and it can also have the library over the network |
| 18:03.23 | DonkeyHotei | is it e-sata, or internal? |
| 18:03.53 | zenitraM | external sata |
| 18:04.16 | zenitraM | as in, a full sata to dock your disk in, with a cheap-o case which exposes the sata on the drive |
| 18:06.29 | DonkeyHotei | define "dock" |
| 18:06.44 | DonkeyHotei | hardware mount? |
| 18:07.19 | zenitraM | this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/13815526@N02/7023784609/ |
| 18:08.20 | DonkeyHotei | ohhh |
| 18:08.27 | DonkeyHotei | completely missed that |
| 18:09.05 | DonkeyHotei | then yes, xbmc is where it's at |
| 18:09.26 | DonkeyHotei | especially the new pvr branch |
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| 22:48.10 | MaDMaLKaV | oh, a post in the xbmc forum about the a10, gonna throw some shit on it |
| 22:51.19 | DonkeyHotei | URL? |
| 22:52.18 | MaDMaLKaV | http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=126995 |
| 22:52.33 | MaDMaLKaV | nothi9ng really interesting, people saying it is and interesting plataform and stuff |
| 22:52.40 | MaDMaLKaV | like we didn't already knew |
| 22:53.16 | MaDMaLKaV | until we get a proper kernel with proper mali acceleration and get to know the license on video decoder , we are pretty much stopped |
| 22:53.48 | MaDMaLKaV | big points on the "being stupidly anal" to the linaro guys for releasing the mali hf driver and not allowing to distribute if for hw other than the Snowball |
| 22:55.46 | DonkeyHotei | shit away, then |
| 22:56.21 | MaDMaLKaV | yeah |
| 22:56.36 | penguin42 | MaDMaLKaV: They'll probably have got that from the snowball guys so there was probably nothing they could do about it |
| 22:59.18 | MaDMaLKaV | if you are working on a foundation based on promoting the development of free source alternatives on alternative plataforms, you should probably cry out loud when people start to do that kind of stuff |
| 22:59.19 | MaDMaLKaV | IMHO |
| 22:59.46 | MaDMaLKaV | for getting that kind of bullshit, I can very well stay on x86 and send them all to the deepest of Dante's hells |
| 23:00.19 | MaDMaLKaV | if I didn't had enough with the fucking chinese factories ignoring the GPL that I have also to see that kind of bullshit in Europe? |
| 23:00.20 | MaDMaLKaV | blah |
| 23:00.51 | MaDMaLKaV | it is so irritating |
| 23:04.09 | MaDMaLKaV | blah, I'm ranting again , sorry guys |
| 23:04.29 | MaDMaLKaV | I will keep calm and wait for the releases patiently |
| 23:16.08 | MaDMaLKaV | cool, amlogic closed my access to their git repository |
| 23:16.12 | MaDMaLKaV | AAAAAAAAAAARGH |
| 23:16.40 | MaDMaLKaV | goin' out, take some gintonics and forget all this stuff, seeya all |
| 23:22.18 | DonkeyHotei | why did they do that? |
| 23:23.42 | MaDMaLKaV | I wasn't supposed to have access to that git , I got it in a lucky error. They started showing some gpl respect but rapidly changed their mind |
| 23:23.46 | MaDMaLKaV | fuck them |
| 23:25.58 | DonkeyHotei | if they mix gpl and non-gpl code in the repo, public access would be a gpl violation |
| 23:26.14 | DonkeyHotei | and cutting you off would be complying |
| 23:30.39 | MaDMaLKaV | they are breaking gpl by not providing their kernels , so I doubt they got that reason for cutting me out |
| 23:30.49 | MaDMaLKaV | I really need those gin tonics, nite all |
| 23:37.34 | steev_ | they probably just noticed that you had access |
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| 23:48.52 | ManoftheSea | night Mad |
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