| 00:20.25 | A0Sheds | hno: do you know if uboot actually actually worked with the imx53? I saw several google links as well. That doesn't necessarily mean uboot worked well with it. |
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| 01:32.31 | karthik | hello.. I'm looking to buy Allwinner A10/A13 |
| 01:32.47 | karthik | Could anyone please guide me where can I get those |
| 01:33.19 | destinal | karthik: the IC or a device or board that uses one? |
| 01:33.57 | karthik | I'm looking for the IC.. I'm planning to build a laptop myself |
| 01:34.09 | karthik | *not laptop its a tablet |
| 01:34.20 | karthik | 7" tablet |
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| 06:17.19 | hno | A0Sheds, if it's the default bootloader then I would presume it works reasonably well. |
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| 12:53.44 | NermaN | Hi all |
| 12:54.52 | NermaN | What is the latest working version of the kernel for allwinner a10? |
| 12:56.45 | mnemoc | 2.6.36 |
| 13:00.18 | NermaN | mnemoc: will it work with ics? |
| 13:01.13 | mnemoc | nope |
| 13:03.42 | NermaN | mnemoc: what branch is working for 3.0? |
| 13:04.05 | mnemoc | depends how you define "working" |
| 13:04.44 | mnemoc | but none is ready for users |
| 13:05.24 | mnemoc | beside 2.6.36 |
| 13:05.37 | NermaN | mnemoc: It compiles and runs. |
| 13:08.58 | mnemoc | github.com:amery/linux-allwinner.git's allwinner-v3.0-android can get you a rootfs from mmc with serial console and even load some drivers but no nand, no sound, no hdmi and no fb |
| 13:09.36 | mnemoc | but as I said, unless you plan to do kernel work the only working version is 2.6.36 |
| 13:11.48 | NermaN | mnemoc: that is strange, because as i can see some china tablets has working 3.0 kernel |
| 13:13.17 | mnemoc | NermaN: sure, the code exists, it's simply not openly available |
| 13:14.10 | mnemoc | NermaN: you are welcomed to contact the sellers and demand them to comply with the linux license |
| 13:14.29 | NermaN | mnemoc: Thanks for the answers and work with the kernel for a10 |
| 13:15.08 | NermaN | mnemoc: Do you think there is a chance that they will respond? |
| 13:15.54 | mnemoc | doubtful |
| 13:17.06 | mnemoc | but it's possible allwinner will release their 3.0.8 based code for the a10 (sun4i) next month |
| 13:17.50 | NermaN | mnemoc: I think more likely to get them same place where manufacturers |
| 13:18.08 | NermaN | in russia some small manufacture has it |
| 13:19.22 | mnemoc | talk to them |
| 13:19.44 | mnemoc | because as long that source remains close all those devices are illegal to sell |
| 13:20.21 | mnemoc | ... not that any of them really cares... |
| 13:21.14 | NermaN | mnemoc: I've always been very interesting, why do they close them. |
| 13:23.26 | mnemoc | on one side they fear their competitors may gain something with it, and on another they just don't consider it worths the time and resources needed |
| 13:24.01 | NermaN | mnemoc: oh, there is very big resources needed for posting it to github =) |
| 13:24.37 | vgrade | mnemoc, i think its the former |
| 13:30.01 | mnemoc | vgrade: I used to believe the same, now not so sure |
| 13:31.15 | NermaN | vgrade: What are you talking about? |
| 13:31.16 | mnemoc | vgrade: It feel more like "why the f* do I have to waste valuable slave^Wengineer hours in supporting DIYers" |
| 13:32.05 | NermaN | mnemoc: write about it to readme |
| 13:32.22 | NermaN | or wiki |
| 13:32.46 | mnemoc | vgrade: and then they only consider making it public after they abandon it's development and don't care anymore |
| 13:33.35 | mnemoc | as happened with 2.6.36, and now will ahppen with 3.0.8 as they are now focused in sun6i |
| 13:34.01 | mnemoc | same with the specs of the chip, released *after* it becomes superseeded |
| 13:36.07 | mnemoc | but at least allwinner releases the old code instead of just trashing it as other chip makers do |
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| 13:40.57 | vgrade | mnemoc, i don't see the logic there as you say they spend the resource at some time later. Unless thats done in the gap before the next gen |
| 13:42.41 | mnemoc | right |
| 13:44.51 | mnemoc | but as I said, it's only a feeling... I'm not a mind reader nor expert in chinese business style |
| 13:46.51 | vgrade | I've noted quite a few comments around about clone devices as well |
| 13:47.23 | mnemoc | but even clone devices buy the SoC from allwinner |
| 13:47.33 | mnemoc | and it's allwinner who makes the code |
| 13:48.38 | mnemoc | unless they charge the brands a good extra for the bring up of each board.... which clonners don't pay |
| 13:49.34 | vgrade | OK that's a slightly differnt case to the one I'm familiar with (Amlogic) |
| 13:49.52 | mnemoc | vgrade: how does Amlogic work? |
| 13:50.27 | vgrade | They provide a generic kernel and the OEM's change the kernel to suit their hardware, touchscreen, display etc |
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| 14:46.03 | specing | Yay, my tablet is alive again! |
| 14:46.19 | specing | Looks like I forgot about the sdcard again... |
| 14:46.24 | traeak | with the mele a1000 i have to use the internal usb to push an sd-card enabled boot? |
| 14:47.05 | mnemoc | traeak: A10 devices boot from SD driverly |
| 14:47.12 | traeak | okay |
| 14:47.27 | traeak | just looking at the rhombust a10 hacking page and wondering about the uboot rebuild section |
| 14:48.01 | mnemoc | yes, but that uboot goes to the SD |
| 14:48.18 | traeak | k |
| 14:48.20 | mnemoc | you don't touch the nand at all |
| 14:48.47 | traeak | so *what* is he doing different on the rhombus page? |
| 14:49.10 | mnemoc | ? |
| 14:49.23 | traeak | just changing it so he can put the boot image on the internal nand then ? |
| 14:49.57 | traeak | for the adb section i mean |
| 14:50.07 | mnemoc | I have no idea what are you reading |
| 14:50.08 | traeak | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/hacking_the_mele_a1000/ |
| 14:50.14 | traeak | Change the u-boot in the device. to support boot from MMC |
| 14:51.56 | traeak | sry, slow on some terminology...i did "grow up" in the PC age |
| 14:52.07 | traeak | we in the 90's didn't have much anything to hack on directly....mostly |
| 14:53.00 | mnemoc | me neither |
| 14:56.46 | mnemoc | traeak: I haven't used that uboot branch but I believe it means to boot from nand but fatload the image from the mmc |
| 14:58.49 | mnemoc | because at the time it was written there wasn't non-proprietary code to make SD itself recognized as bootable by the a10 |
| 14:59.34 | mnemoc | but these days you can, http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_mmc_boot/ |
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| 15:04.07 | traeak | ths page is much better |
| 15:06.49 | specing | the A10 chip is quite hot at android idle |
| 15:07.16 | traeak | the default android you mean? |
| 15:07.22 | traeak | i test drove that for a bit yesterday |
| 15:07.29 | traeak | took a while to figure out the language one |
| 15:07.29 | traeak | hehe |
| 15:07.42 | traeak | too bad the chinese tv part didn't work |
| 15:07.48 | traeak | otheriwse my wife would want one of these unmodded |
| 15:08.35 | specing | yes |
| 15:08.54 | specing | you mean the HDMI output? |
| 15:13.21 | specing | works here |
| 15:13.47 | traeak | no i mean watching chinese tv...didn't get enough data through |
| 15:13.54 | traeak | the HDMI works fine...sucks on the android side |
| 15:14.11 | traeak | and not real impressed with how choppy android runs either |
| 15:16.27 | specing | watching chinese tv?!? |
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| 15:57.17 | specing | Hmm, from http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_mmc_boot/ ; what is up with the "not really done" section? |
| 15:57.38 | specing | Where do I get a pre-setup'd uboot? I haven't found a serial console here... |
| 16:03.01 | steev | specing: well you can modify the uboot default config in the include/configs/sun4i..... file |
| 16:03.02 | mnemoc | specing: you can use hno's uboot repo which comes with that bit preincluded |
| 16:03.13 | steev | or what mnemoc said |
| 16:05.36 | specing | Im guessing its #define CONFIG_EXTRA_ENV_SETTINGS |
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| 16:18.46 | specing | I hope it likes my hardfloat toolchain |
| 16:21.50 | specing | Meh it errors on tools build |
| 16:21.59 | specing | I'll just find hno's stuff |
| 16:24.04 | specing | why is it in .img? |
| 16:24.07 | specing | hmmm |
| 16:24.48 | mnemoc | https://github.com/hno/uboot-allwinner |
| 16:28.13 | specing | mnemoc: There are no builds there? |
| 16:28.41 | mnemoc | it's a source tree... it has.... sources |
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| 16:58.11 | hno | I will have a build in due time, i.e. when USB is working. |
| 17:04.40 | specing | -.- |
| 17:04.59 | specing | I modified the sources I have |
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| 17:10.23 | specing | Im cloning hno |
| 17:11.01 | mnemoc | uh, one hno is enough |
| 17:12.24 | specing | Don't worry, he'll be my private one |
| 17:13.13 | mnemoc | *cough* |
| 17:13.40 | mnemoc | beware he already spawned 6 children |
| 17:15.40 | specing | oh shit |
| 17:16.43 | mnemoc | do you still want a private hno? :p |
| 17:19.41 | steev | specing: didn't you post the contents of the first partition to your website somewhere? |
| 17:21.38 | specing | yea |
| 17:22.10 | specing | https://93.103.140.50/A10-MID/ |
| 17:22.20 | specing | No dns yet though |
| 17:23.16 | steev | cool, was after that script.bin again |
| 17:23.41 | mnemoc | the script.bin must match the exact board you are using |
| 17:24.16 | steev | mnemoc: yeah i think he has an LY-F1 as well, but i suppose i can stop being lazy and pull it from mine |
| 17:24.34 | specing | Nope, I have A6 MID |
| 17:24.34 | mnemoc | :) |
| 17:24.44 | specing | Im not sure what I have though |
| 17:25.03 | specing | there are some images up there that you can compare yours too |
| 17:25.06 | specing | to* |
| 17:27.30 | mnemoc | the build.prop of LY-F1 says A710 iirc |
| 17:29.31 | specing | A10-MID here |
| 17:36.06 | hno | specing, a no-name tablet? |
| 17:37.15 | specing | yep |
| 17:37.39 | specing | Maybe tom could locate the factory though |
| 17:40.30 | mnemoc | what for? |
| 17:40.38 | specing | idk |
| 17:46.03 | hno | have seen some non-name A10 tablets for sale here at about 90 EUR including shipping (from HK). |
| 17:47.32 | specing | Hehe, I've set the cpu scaling governor to ondemand: 60 megahertz! |
| 17:47.40 | specing | ftw! |
| 17:47.50 | specing | It ships with "performance" by default |
| 17:50.43 | mnemoc | I thought they used interactive... |
| 17:51.04 | mnemoc | but their kernel introduces one called "fantasy" |
| 17:51.41 | specing | indeed |
| 17:51.46 | specing | wonder what it does |
| 17:52.48 | specing | looks like it is an improved ondemand |
| 17:52.53 | mnemoc | kill your pets |
| 17:53.33 | zenitraM | tom told me to turn the fantasy governor on while trying to fix my faulty mele |
| 17:54.22 | specing | Do I need the mali driver for simple text console? |
| 17:55.11 | zenitraM | 09:18.11hipboican youecho fantasy > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 17:55.11 | zenitraM | 09:18.33hipboiecho fantasy > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 17:55.11 | zenitraM | 09:18.44hipboito see if axp works |
| 17:55.11 | specing | And if so, how do I get it? Is it best to use the provided kernel and copy the modules over? And if so, where to? (they are in /drv/sth.ko) |
| 17:55.28 | zenitraM | specing: you mean, framebuffer console? |
| 17:55.41 | zenitraM | there is none. |
| 17:55.48 | specing | yes |
| 17:55.55 | specing | So I need the mali driver |
| 17:55.59 | zenitraM | it doesn't work on the allwinner's kernel due to missing implementations for required stuff |
| 17:56.07 | specing | The problem is that I haven't found the serial port yet |
| 17:56.14 | mnemoc | no, but the disp driver is too incomplete for fbcon needs |
| 17:56.50 | mnemoc | I started fixing that in the wip/allwinner-3.0-android/disp branch |
| 17:57.00 | specing | How do I get a user interface of *any* sort running then? |
| 17:57.07 | mnemoc | but need to understand better how they deal with the palettes before finishing that |
| 17:57.16 | mnemoc | specing: ssh :) |
| 17:57.23 | specing | >_> |
| 17:57.46 | specing | It would take ages without a serial port to set that up |
| 17:58.18 | mnemoc | specing: hint, chroot+qemu-arm-static |
| 17:58.35 | mnemoc | specing: so your rootfs is preconfigured before plugging it |
| 17:59.02 | specing | mnemoc: I allready have that |
| 17:59.07 | specing | and Im chrooting from android |
| 17:59.24 | mnemoc | apt-get install openssh-server ? |
| 17:59.34 | specing | But chroot and running standalone are two entirely different things |
| 18:00.08 | mnemoc | sure, but you can leave it almost fully cooked |
| 18:00.23 | zenitraM | get a sd-to-serial |
| 18:00.44 | zenitraM | use it, and invade android /data partition with your system so you don't need the sd |
| 18:00.51 | mnemoc | sd-to-serial means no sd for rootfs |
| 18:01.04 | mnemoc | ok, you won |
| 18:03.02 | specing | Also, I'd like to know what the unpopulated headers are for: https://93.103.140.50/A10-MID/hardware/ |
| 18:03.20 | specing | Maybe I can solder serial port onto there? |
| 18:05.11 | zenitraM | at least the upper one doesn't look like a serial port |
| 18:05.38 | specing | heh |
| 18:06.08 | zenitraM | the one with the square |
| 18:06.55 | specing | the header called "home" looks promising |
| 18:07.31 | specing | URDL is probably mmc |
| 18:10.24 | zenitraM | mmm if you can find out what pins is URDL connected to |
| 18:10.32 | zenitraM | you can probably redirect uart to them using script.bin |
| 18:11.38 | zenitraM | but they might be just the same pins as on the "real" mmc slot |
| 18:11.55 | zenitraM | the boad with so many empty headers seems like a generic one that fits several tablets designs |
| 18:32.58 | hno | specing, don't you have an SD-card slot? |
| 18:34.17 | specing | I have |
| 18:34.54 | specing | I have it occupied with Gentoo |
| 18:37.54 | hno | have seen this board in another tablet. The upper square one is most likely touch sensor logics when not integrated with the display (or flat cable) |
| 18:39.07 | specing | touch sensor is goodix |
| 18:39.21 | specing | and is one of the two chip below |
| 18:39.29 | specing | AFAIK |
| 18:41.43 | hno | The other one I saw had a flat cable going out from the connector area just above to the screen, and a chip on the cable. But nothing populated in the square. |
| 18:44.41 | hno | I see this one have the touch sensor cable in the bottom area. I would not be supriced if URDL is related to that. |
| 18:45.15 | hno | would be interesting to see other side of the board. |
| 18:46.02 | hno | is there a camera somewhere? |
| 18:47.52 | specing | on the front |
| 18:48.01 | specing | 0.3 MP |
| 18:51.12 | hno | 512 ram, 8g flash? |
| 18:51.32 | hno | and gravity sensor? |
| 18:53.25 | specing | 512 ram, 2g flash, unknown |
| 18:54.00 | specing | I don't think it has bluetooth, either |
| 19:21.48 | specing | Is the mali driver hardfloat? |
| 19:24.09 | mnemoc | no |
| 19:24.50 | specing | :( |
| 19:24.59 | specing | How come? |
| 19:25.18 | mnemoc | why would it? |
| 19:26.01 | specing | why wouldn't it? |
| 19:26.21 | mnemoc | it wouldn't be compatible with any relevant system? |
| 19:26.36 | specing | All systems are softfloat? |
| 19:26.44 | specing | -.- |
| 19:26.56 | mnemoc | *relevant* systems |
| 19:27.15 | specing | Meh this just sucks |
| 19:27.33 | mnemoc | ubuntu 12.04 for arm will be hardfloat |
| 19:27.44 | specing | Does that mean I have to rebuild Gentoo with -softfloat-? |
| 19:27.48 | mnemoc | that means that the next linaro ubuntu will be hardfloat |
| 19:28.46 | specing | Actually, hardfloat Gentoo works just fine in a chroot |
| 19:29.43 | mnemoc | hardfloat/softfloat is a userspace thing |
| 19:30.01 | mnemoc | chroot gives you a consistent environment, and so it works |
| 19:30.16 | mnemoc | the syscalls don't use floats |
| 19:33.12 | mnemoc | but when you rely in closed source libraries it's you who has to adjust the system to met the expectations of the proprietary junk |
| 19:39.11 | vgrade | we struggled in MeeGo moving to hardfp over two years ago when all the SoC vendors were not ready to rebuild theor stuff for hardfp |
| 19:39.43 | vgrade | we learned the lesson with Mer and can buld for hard or soft |
| 19:40.14 | vgrade | it only gives rewards with certain use cases anyway |
| 19:41.56 | vgrade | hardfp that is |
| 19:46.19 | destinal | vgrade: yeah and you lose fun things like being able to play webos games on n900 :) |
| 19:53.07 | specing | :( |
| 19:53.22 | specing | I just don't understand this |
| 19:53.50 | specing | Isn't it in the procesor vendor's best interest for its chips to run as fast as possible? |
| 19:54.28 | specing | and providing softfloat-only drivers is a step in the wrong direction |
| 19:57.35 | mnemoc | vendor's best interest is to earn a lot with minimal effort |
| 19:59.18 | mnemoc | as there is no economically relevant OS currently using hardfp there is no $reason$ to care |
| 20:01.05 | mnemoc | when ubuntu release 12.04, the canonical-and-ARM-sponsored linaro will release hardfp drivers |
| 20:04.42 | mnemoc | because it's in canonical's best interest to make ubuntu run as fast as possible :) |
| 20:05.49 | specing | Wait, hasn't 12.04.2012 already passed? |
| 20:08.06 | mnemoc | "Precise Pangolin" is the code name for Ubuntu 12.04, scheduled for release on 26 April 2012. |
| 20:08.39 | mnemoc | so 1 days for ubuntu 23 |
| 20:08.48 | mnemoc | so 1 days for ubuntu 12.04 |
| 20:09.28 | mnemoc | and 1+t for the hardfp arm version from linaro |
| 20:09.41 | mnemoc | iirc they have a 6M offset window |
| 20:10.02 | specing | 0.o |
| 20:10.48 | mnemoc | linaro 12.03 was based on ubuntu 11.10 |
| 20:11.15 | specing | It's not like building a hardfloat version would take a lot of efford on Allwinner's part... |
| 20:12.14 | mnemoc | I doubt allwinner has access to the source of the mali userspace driver |
| 20:12.42 | specing | Well they did implement the stuff in silicon, didn't they? |
| 20:13.14 | mnemoc | but anyhow it's not in their interest, their products are android not linux |
| 20:14.07 | mnemoc | ARM has different levels of licenses... the basic one only gives them what they need to make the silicon and get binaries |
| 20:24.11 | mnemoc | the A10 has a GPS inside... but same deal, allwinner sends a linux tree and the IP-owner sends them back a .ko |
| 20:24.54 | mnemoc | which is in fact a GPL violation... but... who cares |
| 20:34.58 | steev | mnemoc: i need the main script.bin from nanda right? no need for script0/ |
| 20:35.23 | mnemoc | script.bin |
| 20:35.44 | specing | Looks like my dumps are usefull afterall |
| 20:36.36 | mnemoc | steev: but's anyway a good idea to make a backup of the whole boot partition |
| 20:37.07 | A0Sheds | imx6 dev boards are on backorder for 6-8 weeks are are $220 |
| 20:37.26 | steev | yep |
| 20:40.34 | A0Sheds | wtf, how are you supposed to business with them if they can't even make dev boards? |
| 20:41.28 | steev | now you know our pain |
| 20:41.52 | steev | it will probably be christmas before mass consumption is really available |
| 20:42.17 | A0Sheds | it's a joke |
| 20:42.39 | A0Sheds | they must be having problems with production or they were paid off to keep it off the shelves |
| 20:42.58 | steev | they are definitely *not* being paid off to keep it off the shelves |
| 20:43.08 | steev | imo, they are getting ready to sell themselves to someone |
| 20:43.20 | steev | who, no idea |
| 20:43.23 | A0Sheds | something funny has to be up |
| 20:43.25 | steev | but they still aren't profitable |
| 20:43.27 | mnemoc | G :) |
| 20:43.39 | steev | naw, G wouldn't want the mess that is FSL |
| 20:43.41 | A0Sheds | bad management |
| 20:43.54 | steev | that's putting it mildly |
| 20:44.04 | steev | but at least the french guy who was in charge isn't there anymore |
| 20:44.55 | zenitraM | aaand so, an a10-powered tablet has arrived to the mainstream spanish market |
| 20:45.02 | zenitraM | http://www.elandroidelibre.com/2012/04/la-nueva-tablet-silken-i-joy-android-ice-cream-sandwich-y-97-por-199e.html |
| 20:45.07 | zenitraM | 199 in your nearest Carrefour |
| 20:46.01 | mnemoc | i-joy.... |
| 20:46.51 | zenitraM | just another cheap-o chinese importer-rebrander |
| 20:46.51 | steev | argh. |
| 20:47.00 | steev | blah |
| 20:47.08 | steev | followed the mmc wiki page |
| 20:47.14 | steev | seems to be booting android anyway :/ |
| 20:47.31 | steev | missing something |
| 20:47.50 | zenitraM | steev: try to download the ubuntu image and dd it directly |
| 20:47.54 | steev | need to change script.bin? |
| 20:48.08 | zenitraM | if it boots android then it's not booting the mmc at all |
| 20:48.17 | steev | that's what i figured |
| 20:48.55 | mnemoc | steev: uboot has to load both, uImage and script.bin |
| 20:49.02 | steev | the uboot is from hno's uboot |
| 20:49.28 | mnemoc | did you blank the first 1M of the card? |
| 20:49.31 | steev | 5e7be328c7c08c3cc30d441543453cf84938eaf8 is the commit id i'm at |
| 20:50.30 | steev | yes, i followed each step, the only things on the card are a 16MB vfat, and an ext4 partition 2, u-boot-spl-mmc.bin and u-boot.bin were both written to /dev/mmcblk0, and then uImage and the script.bin from /dev/block/nanda were copied to the vfat partition |
| 20:52.07 | steev | i really need to buy a second one of these so i can crack this one open and add a serial port |
| 20:53.05 | specing | Then why do you need the second one? |
| 20:53.16 | specing | Just add the port ;) |
| 20:53.31 | steev | specing: because i hate carrying around a tablet with a serial port hanging off the side? |
| 20:53.49 | zenitraM | get a mele :) |
| 20:53.52 | specing | steev: you can drill a hole for a 100mil header |
| 20:54.09 | mnemoc | hipboi is backordered too |
| 20:54.41 | steev | so how do i crack open this script.bin file and/or recompile it |
| 20:54.45 | mnemoc | the a2000 I bought for a friend got over 20 days of processing |
| 20:55.21 | mnemoc | steev: zenitraM wrote a decompiler, it's on his github |
| 20:56.22 | zenitraM | mnemoc: hipboi isn't backordered, he's just taking a >50 meles order from forocoches |
| 20:56.37 | zenitraM | and it seems that he's also preparing his wedding |
| 20:56.44 | mnemoc | oh |
| 20:59.50 | steev | mnemoc: ah, right, that was the one i was thinking of |
| 21:00.43 | mnemoc | steev: but normally you wouldn't need to mess with the script.bin as it's already tuned for your device |
| 21:01.48 | steev | mnemoc: then i'm back where i started, which is, i have the script.bin and the uImage on there, and using hno's u-boot, following the instructions from http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_mmc_boot/ it powers on, but nothing seems to occur |
| 21:03.15 | mnemoc | maybe your kernel has a hardcoded root= |
| 21:03.37 | steev | steev@lumen ~/sandbox/allwinner/linux-2.6.36 $ grep CMD .config |
| 21:03.37 | steev | CONFIG_CMDLINE="console=ttyS0,115200 init=/bin/init rw mem=256M@0x40000000" |
| 21:03.37 | steev | # CONFIG_CMDLINE_FORCE is not set |
| 21:04.01 | mnemoc | I thought you had copied it from nanda |
| 21:04.22 | steev | the uImage? no i followed the a10_mmc_boot, so i cloned the 2.6.36 allwinner tree |
| 21:04.43 | steev | it takes all of 2 minutes to build a kernel here, so no point |
| 21:06.50 | steev | actually there's no uImage on nanda |
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| 21:10.17 | specing | there is bImage |
| 21:10.40 | steev | not on mine |
| 21:11.26 | steev | http://pastebin.com/NRbDEzfh |
| 21:11.31 | steev | that's a pull from mounting it |
| 21:14.11 | mnemoc | uhm... |
| 21:15.34 | steev | or rather, thats a list of the files that get pulled |
| 21:19.32 | steev | could it be because i'm using an 8gb card? that shouldn't matter |
| 21:23.26 | mnemoc | mine boots from a 16G |
| 21:24.05 | mnemoc | the only I could imagine is that your visible uSD is not the primary |
| 21:24.14 | mnemoc | but I seriusly doubt it |
| 21:26.57 | mnemoc | I'm also confused about your linux-less nanda |
| 21:27.08 | MaDMaLKaV | zenitraM , you have also the nvsbl dragon , it is also a10 based |
| 21:27.42 | zenitraM | MaDMaLKaV: i know, but is it sold on physical stores? |
| 21:27.47 | MaDMaLKaV | yes |
| 21:28.01 | MaDMaLKaV | carrefour have it afaik |
| 21:28.09 | zenitraM | oh, didn't know about that |
| 21:28.33 | MaDMaLKaV | going to bed, seeya guys |
| 21:28.33 | zenitraM | i was told about the i-joy by my parent who has been playing with it a bit on carrefour |
| 21:29.03 | steev | mnemoc: i'm using the android ics image that was provided on march 23 2012 |
| 21:29.15 | steev | they have an april 14, but i have to wait to image it |
| 21:29.20 | steev | isn't near a windows box |
| 21:29.20 | zenitraM | now they only need to release the source somehow, either i-joy or nvsbl... |
| 21:29.40 | zenitraM | g'night MaDMaLKaV |
| 21:30.15 | mnemoc | uh... hi/good night MaDMaLKaV |
| 21:37.31 | MaDMaLKaV | sorry leaving too soon, I worked from 8 to 23 today and I'm ubertired |
| 21:37.37 | MaDMaLKaV | now, really leaving to bed, nite |
| 21:51.48 | steev | mnemoc: hrm, so, how would i go about getting a bImage to put into nanda |
| 21:52.31 | mnemoc | ${OBJCOPY} -R .note.gnu.build-id -S -O binary vmlinux output/bImage |
| 21:53.37 | steev | it should be in nanda/linux ? |
| 21:54.10 | mnemoc | don't know.. haven't really looked at that usecase yet |
| 21:54.36 | mnemoc | the above was a quick grep on the scripts on the kernel tree |
| 21:55.42 | mnemoc | http://rhombus-tech.net/allwinner_a10/a10_boot_process/ says linux/bImage |
| 21:56.07 | mnemoc | linux/linux.ini seems to tell where bImage goes |
| 21:58.53 | steev | hmmm, see there is conflicting infos in the wiki, the a10_boot_process talks about using mksun....boot and going off u-boot.bin but the mmc boot page says to go off spl/u-boot-mmc.bin |
| 21:59.31 | mnemoc | it's too different things |
| 21:59.44 | mnemoc | one to boot from mmc, one to boot from nand |
| 21:59.47 | steev | ah |
| 21:59.50 | steev | well, hrm |
| 21:59.59 | mnemoc | the mmc thing bypass boot1 entirely |
| 22:00.16 | steev | http://pastebin.ca/2140519 |
| 22:00.49 | steev | based on that, couldn't i just push the u-boot.bin to nanda |
| 22:00.55 | steev | and then pop in the sdcard? |
| 22:01.02 | mnemoc | right |
| 22:02.48 | mnemoc | that's more like the page about hacking the mele does it |
| 22:03.08 | mnemoc | u-boot on nand, linux and rootfs on mmc |
| 22:03.24 | mnemoc | going to sleep... good luck! |
| 22:03.32 | steev | thank! |
| 22:03.34 | steev | i'll try |
| 22:43.27 | traeak | is there a good reason for kernel code to use the FPU ? |
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