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| 15:24.58 | hno | MaDMaLKaV, I use Fedora. |
| 15:26.03 | hno | it's alfa in Swedish as well. |
| 15:27.32 | hno | the media enginge is most likely a third party IP block consisting of silicon + software. |
| 15:29.54 | MaDMaLKaV | hno, where do you get the arm cross compiler? fedora repositories, or you added some? |
| 15:32.57 | traeak | you'd hope the media engine would just be some library though |
| 15:33.52 | mnemoc | quite the oposite, if the IP was only on the silicon, software would be open |
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| 15:46.08 | MaDMaLKaV | hno, where do you get the arm cross compiler? fedora repositories, or you added some repositories for cross compiler, or you build it? |
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| 17:56.34 | hno | madaway, I use the compiler from the Novo SDK. |
| 17:56.51 | hno | Fedora do not include cross-compilers unfortunately. |
| 18:13.46 | hno | madaway, in Fedora each architecture is compiled natively on the arch, so all ARM stuff is compiled on ARM machines. |
| 18:14.26 | hno | for both armv5tel and armv7hl (vfp) |
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| 19:04.12 | j1nx | Gents, I just read that on the 5th linaro released ubuntu linux 3.3.0 for the snowball including mali-400 gpu hardware drivers |
| 19:04.52 | j1nx | http://www.igloocommunity.org/support/BSP_Releases#2012.03.1 |
| 19:06.16 | j1nx | I have a crappy internet connection because of sandstorm, can someone check the kernel sources of that release to see if we can use any of their mali-400 stuff |
| 19:06.27 | traeak | snowball ? |
| 19:07.43 | j1nx | http://www.igloocommunity.org/ |
| 19:08.33 | traeak | closed source drivers going iwth 3.3.0 |
| 19:08.35 | traeak | interesting |
| 19:10.52 | j1nx | yes probably closed, but good to get the 3.3 kernel into userspace. I think the way forward is to start using Lima anyway. |
| 19:11.36 | mnemoc | have you tried a rootfs on 3.3 yet? |
| 19:11.47 | j1nx | But if 3.3 can get into userspace with something, hence even with ARM it's own closed source driver |
| 19:12.12 | j1nx | nope, why? |
| 19:12.24 | mnemoc | curiosity |
| 19:12.27 | hno | the ARM MALI driver is mostly in userspace. The small kernel parts is GPL. |
| 19:13.55 | hno | that's part of why lima is a possibility, as they can hook into the data stream between kernel & userspace. |
| 19:14.16 | j1nx | I thought only the 2.3.x stuff was in userspace |
| 19:15.49 | j1nx | anyway, will continue reading again tomorrow. Of to bed now |
| 19:30.37 | traeak | yes definitely lima...3.3 is'nt going to be around forever (for long even) |
| 19:32.47 | mnemoc | still hopes ARM to see the light |
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| 19:34.58 | hno | traeak, in Android world whatever kernel they pick stays around until the Android version is lost in history. |
| 19:35.28 | traeak | of course...but android isn't what i'm really interested in for a mele based system |
| 19:41.22 | hno | good |
| 19:44.09 | traeak | so with everything being open this is awesome, especially with lima looking so good |
| 19:50.48 | mnemoc | the a10 has great decoding capabilities.... which we won't be able to use, and that will harm any not-android usage of the mele |
| 19:51.45 | mnemoc | not sure how well the CPU will able to cope with HD software decoding |
| 19:52.55 | mnemoc | sorry, having a negative day. /me back to work |
| 19:53.04 | traeak | understood |
| 19:53.28 | traeak | decoding probably isn't my highest priority |
| 19:53.35 | traeak | but it is definitely important |
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| 21:51.04 | MaDMaLKaV | mnemoc , anyway, a good gpu driver helps with decoding, some softweares uses opengl to take great part of video decoding IIRC |
| 22:16.54 | MaDMaLKaV | hno, thanks for the tip, I will be using the codesourcery prebuilt sdk then |
| 22:26.18 | MaDMaLKaV | http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-dev/2012-January/009867.html |
| 22:26.31 | MaDMaLKaV | didn't knew there was a linaro built with xbmc integrated, interesting |
| 22:38.24 | MaDMaLKaV | where in f****** hell is the linaro kernel tree? |
| 22:39.32 | MaDMaLKaV | git.linaro.org , no link at it on the site but it works |
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