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| 01:12.49 | CapnKernel | mnemoc: Hi there, are you around? |
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| 03:29.11 | hipboi | you can't rely on a girl |
| 03:30.15 | hipboi | i have asked seven twice to update the status before |
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| 10:13.11 | mnemoc | hipboi: hi, about your u-boot git repo, does the -mmc branch also support booting from nanda or should I use lichee-dev? is it functional? It at least misses arch-sunxi/sys_proto.h |
| 10:13.52 | hipboi | mmc branch doesn't support nand |
| 10:14.20 | hipboi | mmc branch is functional |
| 10:14.26 | hipboi | with u-boot spl |
| 10:14.45 | mnemoc | and the not-mmc branch? works? |
| 10:15.03 | mnemoc | I need the microsd port for the serial port :-/ |
| 10:15.28 | hipboi | lichee-dev branch is the one that in the product |
| 10:16.33 | mnemoc | nice, thanks :) |
| 10:16.40 | hipboi | i will add the sd card as the default output |
| 10:17.02 | mnemoc | for the records, arch/arm/include/asm/arch-sunxi/sys_proto.h is missing in lichee-dev |
| 10:17.17 | mnemoc | oh, thanks, that would be great |
| 10:17.26 | hipboi | ok, i will add it then |
| 10:30.14 | mnemoc | btw, have you used livesuit from a virtual machine? .... I pass 1f3a:efe8 to mine (kvm) when detected, tinxp finds the device, installs the driver fine, but when pressing the gears in livesuit 1.07 it shows me a dialog with an explamation icon and no text... |
| 10:31.53 | mnemoc | I wonder if the double detection of the device is actually intering |
| 10:35.36 | hipboi | it's working with the virtual box |
| 10:35.57 | hipboi | at least my workmate use it this way |
| 10:36.23 | hipboi | but i can never use livesuite in virtual machine under linux |
| 10:37.00 | mnemoc | he use oracle's virtualbox on linux or another os? |
| 10:37.10 | hipboi | on linux |
| 10:37.14 | hipboi | ubuntu |
| 10:38.59 | mnemoc | thanks I'll try virtualbox then |
| 10:45.15 | mnemoc | hipboi: btw, any news about the public availability (*ding* GPL *ding*) of your 3.0.8 linux? :) |
| 10:45.36 | hipboi | it's not the right time to ask |
| 10:45.55 | hipboi | some problem about the version control in software |
| 10:46.55 | mnemoc | ouch :( |
| 10:47.18 | hipboi | and my manager is criticized by the big boss |
| 10:49.07 | hipboi | software releasing and bug fixing is totally a mess in allwinner now |
| 10:57.17 | mnemoc | in this side of the world I would argue it's the perfect situation to for invisting energy in mainlining as much code as possible and making drivers publically available so others can take part of the burden from you :) |
| 11:23.42 | ARE-TEE | afternoon all |
| 11:24.32 | ARE-TEE | Got round to fitting a proper WiFi antenna in my tablet |
| 11:24.44 | mnemoc | pictures? :) |
| 11:24.46 | ARE-TEE | I think it's helped a little, but I was expecting way more improvement |
| 11:25.13 | ARE-TEE | I did take some, but then left my camera and memory card at home. I'm now at work, but will upload them somewhere later |
| 11:25.23 | ARE-TEE | One thing I did notice |
| 11:25.36 | ARE-TEE | is that the original antenna was just 1 strand of wire, soldered to the motherboard |
| 11:26.44 | mnemoc | the mele a1000 doesn't have an antenna at all... seems to use the chassis |
| 11:27.46 | ARE-TEE | The new antenna has 2 strands of wire, I presume one is a ground and the other the signal. These then goto a small piece of metal |
| 11:28.06 | ARE-TEE | So I soldered the signal part on the new antenna to where the old strand of wire was |
| 11:28.30 | ARE-TEE | and then soldered the ground part of the coax cable to a point on the motherboard right next to where the strand of wire was |
| 11:28.47 | ARE-TEE | Another interesting thing is my tablet uses the Realtek 8192CU wireless chipset |
| 11:28.58 | ARE-TEE | which I believe is MIMO based |
| 11:29.05 | ARE-TEE | I always thought MIMO used 2 antennas |
| 11:29.29 | mnemoc | should open his onda vi10 elite and look what's inside |
| 11:30.04 | ARE-TEE | go on do it ! |
| 11:30.08 | ARE-TEE | hehe |
| 11:30.22 | mnemoc | this weekend I will |
| 11:30.36 | mnemoc | the mele a1000 has an rtl8188cus |
| 11:30.56 | ARE-TEE | oh mnemoc, I also downloaded arm-none-linux-gnueabi and recompiled the 3.0.8 kernel and modules |
| 11:31.31 | ARE-TEE | then tried to load them on the tablet, and yet again it complains about version of symbol module_layout :( |
| 11:32.09 | mnemoc | injecting a .ko will only work with exactly the same source tree |
| 11:32.14 | mnemoc | which is not the case |
| 11:32.18 | ARE-TEE | right |
| 11:32.51 | ARE-TEE | so looks like there is no way for me to compile some extra modules for my kernel |
| 11:33.10 | ARE-TEE | that was my backup plan. So I could take a usb WiFi adapter with me, which I know works really well |
| 11:33.47 | mnemoc | allwinner's kernel usually comes with a huge lot of wifi drivers enabled |
| 11:34.32 | mnemoc | so you can still try to find a compatible dongle |
| 11:34.44 | ARE-TEE | I've tried about 8 so far |
| 11:34.50 | ARE-TEE | and non get detected |
| 11:35.15 | mnemoc | :( |
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| 11:43.27 | ARE-TEE | I see bmc4300.ko is present on the tablet |
| 11:43.42 | ARE-TEE | bcm4330 even |
| 11:43.52 | ARE-TEE | now to find what USB dongles use that |
| 11:44.23 | mnemoc | :) |
| 11:44.26 | ARE-TEE | oh |
| 11:44.32 | ARE-TEE | they don't do that in a USB form factor |
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| 11:49.04 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r4507f18daad4 /index.html: link directly to io boards page |
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| 11:50.18 | hipboi | mnemoc: i have pushed to the u-boot tree |
| 11:50.26 | mnemoc | hipboi: thanks! |
| 11:50.48 | hipboi | not tested, but i think it's simple enough |
| 11:52.06 | zenitraM | mnemoc: with livesuit you don't need to press anything, once the program detects the device it asks you to start flashing |
| 11:52.30 | zenitraM | although after the first communication with the device, it disconnects and connects again, maybe with another PID. you will also have to plug that one |
| 11:53.27 | mnemoc | zenitraM: in my case tinyxp sees 1f3a:efe8 and installs the driver without problem, but livesuit doesn't agree :( |
| 11:53.52 | zenitraM | does it get unplugged? |
| 11:54.00 | mnemoc | nope |
| 11:54.12 | zenitraM | the problem i had is.. |
| 11:54.29 | zenitraM | my vm connects the device first to mac and then when i select it, it connects it to windows |
| 11:54.37 | hipboi | there is a program on windows call debugview |
| 11:54.43 | zenitraM | livesuit/FEL didn't like this |
| 11:54.59 | zenitraM | you have to configure it so it gets plugged directly to the VM, without linux trying to detect it |
| 11:55.05 | hipboi | livesuite will print the debug message to debugview |
| 11:55.37 | hipboi | usb devices can be configed to host or guest in VM |
| 11:55.52 | mnemoc | zenitraM: that's what I was fearing |
| 11:57.12 | mnemoc | hipboi: is this debugview part of allwinner's tools package? |
| 11:57.22 | hipboi | no |
| 11:57.24 | zenitraM | hipboi: yes, but the problem is that on some VMs the device is connected first to the host and then to the guest |
| 11:57.38 | zenitraM | and for some reason livesuit doesn't detect the device when it does that |
| 11:57.59 | hipboi | mnemoc: debugview is a window program from microsoft, i think |
| 11:58.08 | zenitraM | it might be sending some initialization commands to the computer that aren't read by the guest but the host |
| 11:59.49 | mnemoc | zenitraM: as it works for you, can you get wireshark in the middle to see if we can replicate what livesuit does from non-windows envs? |
| 12:00.13 | mnemoc | hno mentioned he saw some xmodem |
| 12:00.36 | zenitraM | usb sniffing is only available on linux... |
| 12:00.39 | hipboi | mnemoc: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/65312725/Dbgview.exe |
| 12:00.52 | zenitraM | i tried some other capturing tools for windows but they didn't work, probably because of it being a w7 64bit machine |
| 12:01.12 | mnemoc | hipboi: thanks |
| 12:01.27 | ManoftheSea | buspirate? |
| 12:01.50 | mnemoc | ManoftheSea: can you? :) |
| 12:02.18 | mnemoc | ordering a buspirate will add yet another month to the quest... |
| 12:02.32 | zenitraM | if i have time today i'll try with a xp virtual machine |
| 12:02.55 | zenitraM | mnemoc: you could try with virtualbox or vmware. it might work with them |
| 12:03.11 | ManoftheSea | actually, looking at the bus-pirate, I don't see USB-MitM |
| 12:03.31 | zenitraM | also, i'll try to make a mele phoenixcard image and upload a dd-dump of it |
| 12:03.33 | ManoftheSea | also, it'd probably take me 2 weeks just to learn what you're trying to do. |
| 12:04.17 | mnemoc | zenitraM: I have a very ugly allergy to oracle and vmware.... but I will try virtualbox's tonight |
| 12:04.27 | zenitraM | qemu is another option... |
| 12:04.37 | mnemoc | kvm is qemu... |
| 12:04.43 | zenitraM | oh nvm then |
| 12:06.47 | mnemoc | still reverse engineering the livesuit protocol sounds like the most reasonable way |
| 12:08.53 | ManoftheSea | while I'm randomly speculating... USB-passthrough driver with debug! |
| 12:09.05 | ManoftheSea | except that you need XP, right? |
| 12:09.08 | ManoftheSea | bah. |
| 12:09.22 | mnemoc | sucks big time :< |
| 12:09.35 | mnemoc | hipboi: is this protocol Classified ? |
| 12:10.36 | hipboi | yes |
| 12:11.14 | hipboi | what do you need to reverse engineer it |
| 12:12.11 | mnemoc | to flash .img files from linux/mac |
| 12:12.42 | hipboi | i mean how to reverse engineer it |
| 12:12.50 | hipboi | what to capture |
| 12:13.50 | mnemoc | all that goes to 1f3a:efe8 |
| 12:14.33 | mnemoc | assuming all devices use the same id there |
| 12:15.00 | mnemoc | considering the images are 260M it won't be an small dump :-/ |
| 12:15.43 | zenitraM | reversing phoenix tool might be easier |
| 12:16.14 | zenitraM | hipboi: any image flashable with livesuit will also work with phoenix card? |
| 12:16.14 | mnemoc | i've never tried it... doesn't that one use a crypto key? |
| 12:16.39 | zenitraM | mnemoc: i don't know, it is included with the firmware of the mele on their website |
| 12:16.42 | hipboi | zenitraM: yes |
| 12:17.16 | zenitraM | and it should use the same encryption as livesuit… except creating an sd image instead of dumping via usb |
| 12:20.54 | lkcl_ | if absolutely necessary i have a legitimate and legally-licensed copy of IDAPro which i purchased 10 years ago |
| 12:21.24 | lkcl_ | it can be used to reverse-engineer windows executables, dlls as well as linux kernel and .ko files |
| 12:21.47 | lkcl_ | however the amount of code "extracted" is somewhere around one to five DAYS per ONE line of code. |
| 12:22.06 | lkcl_ | no that is not "one to five lines of code per day" |
| 12:22.13 | lkcl_ | that is really DAYS per LINE. |
| 12:22.32 | lkcl_ | so this should only be considered as an absolute last resort. |
| 12:23.42 | zenitraM | well.. the thing is, seeing how there are dlls and arm binaries inside fw images |
| 12:24.22 | zenitraM | i wouldn't be surprised if most of the hard work is done by ARM code loaded to the FEL |
| 12:24.32 | zenitraM | (this would explain the usb connection-disconnection) |
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| 12:45.14 | simpleirc1 | finally seven has sent the mail |
| 12:54.44 | mnemoc | but top-mounted connectors :'( |
| 12:55.32 | mnemoc | zenitraM: where is the code that creates the .img files? |
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| 15:51.34 | zenitraM | mnemoc: there's no code for it |
| 15:52.04 | zenitraM | someone @ XDA released the latest version but he didn't want to post the source |
| 15:52.19 | zenitraM | (he was someone that worked at/for allwinner) |
| 15:52.36 | mnemoc | not nice :< |
| 16:01.41 | toxicpsion | anyone made any progress on a10 framebuffer? |
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| 16:25.06 | zenitraM | toxicpsion: i think it just works |
| 16:25.40 | toxicpsion | hmmm... |
| 16:25.44 | zenitraM | depending on the kernel version you're using, i got mixed results, but it's easy to run xorg |
| 16:26.30 | zenitraM | getting the touchscreen events to be detected properly by xorg is another story, but it's something |
| 16:27.52 | toxicpsion | what kind of touchscreen in your device? goodix or ft5x_ts? |
| 16:28.37 | zenitraM | goodix i think |
| 16:29.00 | zenitraM | the events are there at… /dev/input/eventX? |
| 16:29.37 | zenitraM | and xorg gets to detect them (using xinput, i think, dumps the numbers for the locations of the fingers and the pressures) |
| 16:30.16 | zenitraM | but it doesn't identify which number is each thing. seems like an easy fix on xorg code anyway. |
| 16:30.29 | toxicpsion | my touch works ok... (ft5x)... |
| 16:30.55 | zenitraM | on xorg? |
| 16:31.02 | toxicpsion | yea |
| 16:31.16 | toxicpsion | i just wish i had fb during boot. |
| 16:31.19 | zenitraM | did you specify any driver? |
| 16:31.25 | zenitraM | oh, framebuffer console. that's broken |
| 16:31.39 | toxicpsion | patched .ko from 'droid 2.3.4 |
| 16:31.58 | zenitraM | i mean, on the xorg config |
| 16:31.59 | toxicpsion | yeakkkk . that was what i was referring to above. |
| 16:32.23 | toxicpsion | evdev (minor patches) |
| 16:32.33 | zenitraM | hipboi said he had told the girl which took care of it to fix it |
| 16:32.47 | zenitraM | nice |
| 16:32.59 | toxicpsion | was just checking, cuz that was last week some time :P |
| 17:35.37 | specing | Meh the wifi is crap ... |
| 17:38.30 | specing | Finaly got NFS working though ;P |
| 17:58.27 | specing | Does rtl have hardware crypto? |
| 17:58.42 | specing | The link maxes out at 0.1MB/s |
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| 19:48.57 | zenitraM | specing: mhm.. |
| 19:49.03 | zenitraM | adb supports network port forwarding |
| 19:49.32 | zenitraM | you could try using nfs-over-adb-forwarding on usb. probably faster than wifi |
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| 20:19.53 | specing | zenitraM: update, dd averages it around 0.9 MB/s |
| 20:20.30 | zenitraM | over wifi? |
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| 20:22.42 | CIA-91 | rhombus-tech: lkcl master * r8f6bbd3ef3ec /allwinner_a10/orders/not_valid/ (mymugle.mdwn mymugle_stable.mdwn): sort out status |
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| 20:30.14 | specing | zenitraM: yes |
| 20:30.26 | specing | zenitraM: dev/zero to NFS |
| 20:31.00 | zenitraM | not bad… although it could be faster |
| 20:33.27 | specing | It took ages to write that 100MB file |
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| 23:06.22 | toxicpsion | uarts on a10 are 0v - 3.3v |
| 23:06.23 | toxicpsion | ? |
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